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I had thought a Desert Eagle costs in the range of $1000.

Even used a Desert Eagle is ~$1200 and up, most are in the $1500 range.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Deser...

It'll be interesting to see where the gun comes from and how he got a hold of it.

One other thing.

We already drawn the line at machine guns, grenades, rpgs (for the average person),

I wonder if you're actually aware of the details of regulatory regime for these - most people aren't. There isn't actually a ban on full-auto firearms or grenades on the federal level (some states have their own bans, but many don't).

Specifically for full-autos, there's a ban on importation or manufacture for civilian market, which means that supply is limited (only full-auto guns manufactured or imported before 1986 can be transferred to civilians), and so prices are very high - for example, here is an auction on a full-auto AR-15, starting at $18k; and on the cheaper side, here is WW2 Sten submachine gun, starting at $5k. However, if you have the cash, and if you don't live in a state that bans those, you could totally have it - all it takes is paying a $200 transfer tax to the feds (and waiting for a few months, because their processing queue for those transfer forms is very long).

There's another alternative, that involves taking a new semi-auto, and replacing a few parts in it with registered full-auto parts. For example, for AR-15, all you need is what's called a "drop-in auto sear" that is manufactured before 1986, and registered as a full auto firearm. It just goes into pretty much any AR-15 on the market, and makes it a legal machine gun. (For bonus points, have a look at what the drop-in auto sear is, and think about how trivial it is to manufacture - this is illegal, of course, but if you wanted to use it, I doubt you'd care.)

(There's another option, entirely illegal, but readily accessible. A regular mil-spec full auto trigger group and sear for an M16 is not considered a machinegun in and of itself, because it doesn't readily fit in a semi-auto AR-15 receiver. However, the only thing that is necessary to make it fit is drilling a single hole at the right spot, which is fairly trivial, given that receivers are aluminum - some are even polymer - and schematics and even jigs are readily available. Basically, it could be done with a cheap hand drill if desired. A complete kit with the trigger group, safety and sear costs around $100.)

Consequently, in 1995, 9 years after the manufacture/import ban, there were 175,000 registered legal full-auto firearms in civilian possession. This number is certainly lower today, because things wear out - but probably not by that much, because you can replace most worn-out parts that don't differ between full-auto and semi-auto models, and because people naturally are careful about such expensive guns.

Similarly, for grenade launchers and grenades, which are classified as "destructive devices" - you can own them, but you have to pay $200 for the transfer of both the launcher, and every grenade for it, so it gets expensive real quick. E.g. here is the standard military underbarrel 40mm grenade launcher - yours for $1500 + $200 transfer tax. Grenades are much harder to find, obviously, because they're a single-use thing by definition, but are also available given enough money. There are a few people in the country who own real tanks, complete with live guns and a stockpile of shells.

One other thing.

We already drawn the line at machine guns, grenades, rpgs (for the average person),

I wonder if you're actually aware of the details of regulatory regime for these - most people aren't. There isn't actually a ban on full-auto firearms or grenades on the federal level (some states have their own bans, but many don't).

Specifically for full-autos, there's a ban on importation or manufacture for civilian market, which means that supply is limited (only full-auto guns manufactured or imported before 1986 can be transferred to civilians), and so prices are very high - for example, here is an auction on a full-auto AR-15, starting at $18k; and on the cheaper side, here is WW2 Sten submachine gun, starting at $5k. However, if you have the cash, and if you don't live in a state that bans those, you could totally have it - all it takes is paying a $200 transfer tax to the feds (and waiting for a few months, because their processing queue for those transfer forms is very long).

There's another alternative, that involves taking a new semi-auto, and replacing a few parts in it with registered full-auto parts. For example, for AR-15, all you need is what's called a "drop-in auto sear" that is manufactured before 1986, and registered as a full auto firearm. It just goes into pretty much any AR-15 on the market, and makes it a legal machine gun. (For bonus points, have a look at what the drop-in auto sear is, and think about how trivial it is to manufacture - this is illegal, of course, but if you wanted to use it, I doubt you'd care.)

(There's another option, entirely illegal, but readily accessible. A regular mil-spec full auto trigger group and sear for an M16 is not considered a machinegun in and of itself, because it doesn't readily fit in a semi-auto AR-15 receiver. However, the only thing that is necessary to make it fit is drilling a single hole at the right spot, which is fairly trivial, given that receivers are aluminum - some are even polymer - and schematics and even jigs are readily available. Basically, it could be done with a cheap hand drill if desired. A complete kit with the trigger group, safety and sear costs around $100.)

Consequently, in 1995, 9 years after the manufacture/import ban, there were 175,000 registered legal full-auto firearms in civilian possession. This number is certainly lower today, because things wear out - but probably not by that much, because you can replace most worn-out parts that don't differ between full-auto and semi-auto models, and because people naturally are careful about such expensive guns.

Similarly, for grenade launchers and grenades, which are classified as "destructive devices" - you can own them, but you have to pay $200 for the transfer of both the launcher, and every grenade for it, so it gets expensive real quick. E.g. here is the standard military underbarrel 40mm grenade launcher - yours for $1500 + $200 transfer tax. Grenades are much harder to find, obviously, because they're a single-use thing by definition, but are also available given enough money. There are a few people in the country who own real tanks, complete with live guns and a stockpile of shells.

One other thing.

We already drawn the line at machine guns, grenades, rpgs (for the average person),

I wonder if you're actually aware of the details of regulatory regime for these - most people aren't. There isn't actually a ban on full-auto firearms or grenades on the federal level (some states have their own bans, but many don't).

Specifically for full-autos, there's a ban on importation or manufacture for civilian market, which means that supply is limited (only full-auto guns manufactured or imported before 1986 can be transferred to civilians), and so prices are very high - for example, here is an auction on a full-auto AR-15, starting at $18k; and on the cheaper side, here is WW2 Sten submachine gun, starting at $5k. However, if you have the cash, and if you don't live in a state that bans those, you could totally have it - all it takes is paying a $200 transfer tax to the feds (and waiting for a few months, because their processing queue for those transfer forms is very long).

There's another alternative, that involves taking a new semi-auto, and replacing a few parts in it with registered full-auto parts. For example, for AR-15, all you need is what's called a "drop-in auto sear" that is manufactured before 1986, and registered as a full auto firearm. It just goes into pretty much any AR-15 on the market, and makes it a legal machine gun. (For bonus points, have a look at what the drop-in auto sear is, and think about how trivial it is to manufacture - this is illegal, of course, but if you wanted to use it, I doubt you'd care.)

(There's another option, entirely illegal, but readily accessible. A regular mil-spec full auto trigger group and sear for an M16 is not considered a machinegun in and of itself, because it doesn't readily fit in a semi-auto AR-15 receiver. However, the only thing that is necessary to make it fit is drilling a single hole at the right spot, which is fairly trivial, given that receivers are aluminum - some are even polymer - and schematics and even jigs are readily available. Basically, it could be done with a cheap hand drill if desired. A complete kit with the trigger group, safety and sear costs around $100.)

Consequently, in 1995, 9 years after the manufacture/import ban, there were 175,000 registered legal full-auto firearms in civilian possession. This number is certainly lower today, because things wear out - but probably not by that much, because you can replace most worn-out parts that don't differ between full-auto and semi-auto models, and because people naturally are careful about such expensive guns.

Similarly, for grenade launchers and grenades, which are classified as "destructive devices" - you can own them, but you have to pay $200 for the transfer of both the launcher, and every grenade for it, so it gets expensive real quick. E.g. here is the standard military underbarrel 40mm grenade launcher - yours for $1500 + $200 transfer tax. Grenades are much harder to find, obviously, because they're a single-use thing by definition, but are also available given enough money. There are a few people in the country who own real tanks, complete with live guns and a stockpile of shells.

The exception is what makes them legal, so they're obvious not "all illegal".

In practice, (B) means that there are several thousand fully automatic weapons floating around and occasionally showing up on the market. They're very expensive because of the limited supply, and there are many hoops to jump to obtain one, and they're not legal in many states. But you can still legally purchase one in US.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Machi...

The American pilot version - cut down bolt action in 22 Hornet. Since it has a barrel less than 16" and an OAL of less than 26" it falls under NFA purview, so there is a tax stamp associated (and several months wait).

http://www.gunbroker.com/Aucti...

The other "more common" but still rare is the M6 version which is 22 hornet over a 410 shotgun on a weird skeleton style stock and weirder firing mechanism

http://www.gunbroker.com/Aucti...

The American pilot version - cut down bolt action in 22 Hornet. Since it has a barrel less than 16" and an OAL of less than 26" it falls under NFA purview, so there is a tax stamp associated (and several months wait).

http://www.gunbroker.com/Aucti...

The other "more common" but still rare is the M6 version which is 22 hornet over a 410 shotgun on a weird skeleton style stock and weirder firing mechanism

http://www.gunbroker.com/Aucti...

Now that I got a name, I could find the story. http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=90049

Given the sheer amount of Lee-Enfields in circulation, it would probably be cheapest for them to just buy new rifles.

Just to give an example, here is what is available on a typical day on GunBroker. How many Canadian rangers are there, again?

Serviceable rifles at about $200.

Other parts of the gun are often serialized, but the serial on the receiver is the one that is considered the serial number of the gun for legal purposes. For collectors, matching numbers on all parts still fetch a premium, especially for antique or just old firearms, such as WW2 rifles.

Speaking of old guns, this is one other interesting side effect of treating the receiver as the gun, and all other components as appendages. Federal law defines a category of firearms called "antique", which is any firearm manufactured on or before 1899. Those are basically completely out of the scope of all existing gun control legislation on both federal and state level (I believe Hawaii is the only exception), unless they fall under NFA (full auto, short barrels etc). You can order them online and have UPS deliver them to their doorstep, no background checks, nothing. If you're a felon, you can still legally own one. And so on.

Now remember that when we say "gun", we really mean "receiver" here. This means that it's perfectly legal to take a receiver from an antique gun, replace the rest with newly manufactured components, and the result will still legally be considered antique. And receiver is the part that normally gets least wear on a firearm (because, on one hand, it's usually metal, and on the other hand, it's not the part that gets most mechanical stress, unlike the bolt assembly and the barrel).

Here is one example of such a thing: an Imperial Russian Mosin-Nagant receiver from 1896, which ended up in the stocks of the Finnish arsenals (quite possibly captured during Winter War or Continuation War, or else it could come from the arsenals they inherited from the Russian Empire when they declared independence), and was then remade into a new Mosin rifle sometime in the 60s, with new barrel, bolt, stock, and possibly the trigger group as well. The resulting rifle shoots just as well as any other modern bolt-action rifle, and ammo is cheap and plentiful.

It's not limited to just bolt-action rifles, either, though those are the most plentiful. But there is a number of antique Mauser C96 handguns around, as well - not quite on par with modern handguns, obviously, what with a fixed 10-round magazine loaded from stripper clips, but still a very capable firearm in its own right. There are plenty of antique revolvers, too.

This is just someone who wants attention. Guns with plastic barrels are junk, worse even than low-end Saturday Night Specials. You can get a cheap gun for under $100 in the US. (Yes, the Raven is a crappy gun, but it's still better than anything made on an extruder-type 3D printer.)

This is not the cutting edge of weapons design. Guns with aimbots. are the cutting edge. Right now, they're expensive, around $10K, but they will get cheaper.

And you probably totally can't afford one. At least most average joes cannot. As the going rate on a transferable (pre-1986 built) fully automatic rifle is about $10K-$20K (& up)

http://www.gunbroker.com/Machine-Guns/BI.aspx

You just proved my point. http://www.galleryofguns.com/Gallery/AllSaleItems.aspx The only things left from quality manufacturers are bolt actions (Ruger M77) and .22LR calibers (plinking and small game only). The rest is crap. You either have quality guns already, or are going to pay a fortune for them off gunbroker.com.

Local gun stores around me are in a similar situation. No glocks. No AR's except for exotics (12 gauge AR for $2,500, anyone?). No AK-patterns of any kind. A few shops have some S&W M&P pistols left, mostly in .22. The shelves are largely bare, and common ammunition calibers are not to be found. 9mm and .223 is damn near impossible to find, although there is a little of the super-expensive self-defense ammunition left (>$1/round).

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=324131871 $2,300 for an AR?! Admitted a nice one, but a month ago, these were selling for half the price. At prices like these, if gun stores get any stock, it goes directly to gunbroker. It certainly does not stay local.

The citizens of Westchester are certainly not be able to purchase effective, quality guns to protect themselves without spending exorbitant sums of money and considerable effort. Being in NY state, it will also require a considerable amount of time to overcome the regulatory hurdles.

What's worse, the one notable statement of what he could find:

M9 Tactical handgun with an illegal silencer, unregistered of course.

Is not an illegal weapon. Most states in the US, you can purchase
an unregistered weapon from person to person. Further here in AZ,
that is NOT an illegal silencer (unless you don't purchase the very
cheap $200 license to own a silencer).

So, basically, he told us about a http://www.gunbroker.com/ that
takes bitcoins. Lol.

Btw, $2000, your own Stargate PS90
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=284429588

for those that shall troll me, yes... Stargate used P90's but unless
you are a LEO... THOSE are illegal for commoners.

Man I wish I had a spare 2 grand.

-AI

What's worse, the one notable statement of what he could find:

M9 Tactical handgun with an illegal silencer, unregistered of course.

Is not an illegal weapon. Most states in the US, you can purchase
an unregistered weapon from person to person. Further here in AZ,
that is NOT an illegal silencer (unless you don't purchase the very
cheap $200 license to own a silencer).

So, basically, he told us about a http://www.gunbroker.com/ that
takes bitcoins. Lol.

Btw, $2000, your own Stargate PS90
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=284429588

for those that shall troll me, yes... Stargate used P90's but unless
you are a LEO... THOSE are illegal for commoners.

Man I wish I had a spare 2 grand.

-AI

If you comply with Federal requirements, you can own (and shoot!) artillery.

It's a bit expensive, so you usually find only mortars and cannon for sale.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Browse.aspx?SearchType=0&Timeframe=0&Keywords=*&Cat=3100&Items=50

The owners are typically well-behaved, and it isn't a poor man's hobby.

phew, that's nothing. try http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=421694 ;)

obscured area in _all_ sattellite images, american, russian, whatever.

technical glitch, distraction or something important ? slashdot to the rescue ! (well, maybe. judging by some sources of information even the locals have no idea what's there)

That photo is from the Wikipedia entry for Mateba Autorevolver. It was uploaded by LoCo CNC on 02/06/2008

    It is a Mateba Model 6 Unica. My guess from the picture is that it's a 6" .357 Magnum. You could probably print the the picture, along with the Wikipedia page, and take it to a local gun shop. They may have have one, but they seem a bit pricey. Gunbroker.com has This one for $2,900 starting bid, $4,600 buy it now price.

    I already have a decent selection of pistols, so for the price, I'd probably go with a FN PS-90 or Colt AR15

    For a throw away gun to trust the airlines with, I'd recommend something more like a Jennings J-22. They're cheap, common, horribly inaccurate, and prone to jamming. I can group the size of a quarter at 30' with my .45's, but with the Jennings I was lucky to get a grouping the size of a dinner plate. If it was lost, you wouldn't have to worry about anyone getting hurt, unless it fell from the plane and hit them in the head.

    I have transported weapons on airlines, carefully following their rules, and verifying I was doing the right thing the whole way. "Hi, I'm checking in. I have to declare a weapon in my bag. It is unloaded and locked in its case." It got special (but polite) attention on the way out.

      It wasn't until I got to LAX that I worried. There was absolutely no special treatment there. I snagged by bag from baggage claim and left without anyone verifying that it was mine.

    It felt a bit funny walking around a major international airport with a gun (in the luggage).

Lots of Civil War re-enactors have built artillery pieces before. There are whole batteries of them! As for it going to an eleven year old, he will have a great deal of difficulty moving it around without dad's truck. Ammunition will cost over $20/round, so he won't be firing it very often. Before we all became politically correct (and more urbanized) after WWII, a boy would often get "his first rifle long before he has his first long trousers." This kid has a lot less potential to get into mischief with a howitzer than he does with a .22 rifle!

P.S. With a little research, dad could have bought one of these for a lot less than $6K.

http://gunbroker.com/ - eBay doesn't let you sell weapons

Of course, Almost forgot...

Debugging Tool

Yep, its that point.
I would like to stay and fight, but I'd rather leave this place. This administration awakened in me the idea that nations are silly concepts, screw that. I'll go where I'm most free. Bye bye US, hello Switzerland/Liechtenstein.

For those of you seeking to stay and fight I suggest http://www.gunbroker.com/

Best of luck. (I mean that)

Seems like a commercial for http://gunbroker.com/ to me

gunbroker link

This is an eBay-like setup for people to sell guns across the internet. Before the anti-gun hyperventilators (like the submitter) start, guns can only be shipped to a Federal Firearms License holder (or a C&R, but that's a special case that I won't go into). You then go to them and have a federal background check performed on you, and you pick up your gun.

Many computer nerds I know often buy rare machineguns this way. (no, not semi-auto Democrat-newspeak "assault weapons", real belt-fed working machineguns like MG-42s and M2HBs as well as full auto assault rifles like the M16)

Occasionally, a 105mm howitzer (includes 20 rounds free!), RPG, or 20mm anti-aircraft cannon will show up on gunbroker as well. Yes, private citizens can easily own WORKING assault rifles, frag grenades, machineguns, howitzers, smart bombs, and anti-aircraft cannons. No legal citizen-owned machinegun, mortar, bomb, howitzer, or grenade has ever been used in any crime. Ever.

It's also interesting to note that there's no explicit regulation prohibiting you from owning, say , a nuclear-armed cruise missile - it's just you can't find anyone willing to sell them to you.

http://www.impactguns.com/store/ak47.html Shazaam

And if sniping is more your style, http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item =59440718 Now you too can be Vassily Zaitsev!

Maybe you'd rather have a grenade launcher? http://www.impactguns.com/store/dd.html

It's a perfect situation: the nature of the merchandise (lots of used stuff that is still valuable) lends itself to bidding, and big-ticket auctions are limited to FFL holders, so regular schmoes have to bid through a local gun shop, helping to mitigate trust issues.

Ebay refuses to list firearms.

What? Who are you? The grandparent was clear enough. You can buy AK47s that look like AK47s. They're not even that expensive...

The law covers semi-automatic weapons with certain characteristics; guns are allowed only one of these: Pistol grip, collapsable butt-stock, flash suppressor.

If a gun's what you're going for, you could do a lot worse than something like this. It has barrels that fit both a .410 shotgun shell (birdshot, a can't-miss low-injury shot that throws a foot of flame out the barrel) or a .45 bullet (stopping power if the guy you just fired a shotgun blast at decides he's not convinced).

It's also small, which makes it easy to stash in your night table or in a purse or pocket. It's also wildly unreliable at long ranges (considering you've got a very powerful shot or a very light shot, depending on the ammo.) It also looks like a toy, so if you have kids who are not educated about firearms, get them educated or don't have guns in the house.

The main thing to keep in mind is that it's a tool and not a magical wand. If you're going to own a gun, treat it with respect and do not EVER mishandle it for any reason. Take a training course. Learn how to shoot before you get the weapon.

I'm just REALLY GLAD that these laws have made it NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE for the average citizen to get their hands on ASSAULT WEAPONS. I mean, if people could easily get a HIGH QUALITY, 2 MOA .308 CALIBER WEAPON REALLY CHEAP, or HIGH CAPACITYmagazines and ARMOR PIERCING AMMUNITIONanyway, and all of this was COMPLETELY LEGAL, people would think these laws were FUCKING STUPID, ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS, and accomplished ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

I know I'd be about pissed if my tax dollars were wasted on a war on a STYLE of weapon that accomplished ABSOLUTELY NOTHING but make people purchase the hunting rifle version of the guns that ONLY LOOKED more dangerous. Especially if YOU COULD BUY THE FUCKING THINGS ANYWAY. Man. I'd be even more pissed if you could do it over the Internet.

Thank You.

I'm just REALLY GLAD that these laws have made it NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE for the average citizen to get their hands on ASSAULT WEAPONS. I mean, if people could easily get a HIGH QUALITY, 2 MOA .308 CALIBER WEAPON REALLY CHEAP, or HIGH CAPACITYmagazines and ARMOR PIERCING AMMUNITIONanyway, and all of this was COMPLETELY LEGAL, people would think these laws were FUCKING STUPID, ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS, and accomplished ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

I know I'd be about pissed if my tax dollars were wasted on a war on a STYLE of weapon that accomplished ABSOLUTELY NOTHING but make people purchase the hunting rifle version of the guns that ONLY LOOKED more dangerous. Especially if YOU COULD BUY THE FUCKING THINGS ANYWAY. Man. I'd be even more pissed if you could do it over the Internet.

Thank You.

I'm just REALLY GLAD that these laws have made it NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE for the average citizen to get their hands on ASSAULT WEAPONS. I mean, if people could easily get a HIGH QUALITY, 2 MOA .308 CALIBER WEAPON REALLY CHEAP, or HIGH CAPACITYmagazines and ARMOR PIERCING AMMUNITIONanyway, and all of this was COMPLETELY LEGAL, people would think these laws were FUCKING STUPID, ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS, and accomplished ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

I know I'd be about pissed if my tax dollars were wasted on a war on a STYLE of weapon that accomplished ABSOLUTELY NOTHING but make people purchase the hunting rifle version of the guns that ONLY LOOKED more dangerous. Especially if YOU COULD BUY THE FUCKING THINGS ANYWAY. Man. I'd be even more pissed if you could do it over the Internet.

Thank You.

I'm just REALLY GLAD that these laws have made it NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE for the average citizen to get their hands on ASSAULT WEAPONS. I mean, if people could easily get a HIGH QUALITY, 2 MOA .308 CALIBER WEAPON REALLY CHEAP, or HIGH CAPACITYmagazines and ARMOR PIERCING AMMUNITIONanyway, and all of this was COMPLETELY LEGAL, people would think these laws were FUCKING STUPID, ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS, and accomplished ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

I know I'd be about pissed if my tax dollars were wasted on a war on a STYLE of weapon that accomplished ABSOLUTELY NOTHING but make people purchase the hunting rifle version of the guns that ONLY LOOKED more dangerous. Especially if YOU COULD BUY THE FUCKING THINGS ANYWAY. Man. I'd be even more pissed if you could do it over the Internet.

Thank You.

I'm just REALLY GLAD that these laws have made it NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE for the average citizen to get their hands on ASSAULT WEAPONS. I mean, if people could easily get a HIGH QUALITY, 2 MOA .308 CALIBER WEAPON REALLY CHEAP, or HIGH CAPACITYmagazines and ARMOR PIERCING AMMUNITIONanyway, and all of this was COMPLETELY LEGAL, people would think these laws were FUCKING STUPID, ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS, and accomplished ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

I know I'd be about pissed if my tax dollars were wasted on a war on a STYLE of weapon that accomplished ABSOLUTELY NOTHING but make people purchase the hunting rifle version of the guns that ONLY LOOKED more dangerous. Especially if YOU COULD BUY THE FUCKING THINGS ANYWAY. Man. I'd be even more pissed if you could do it over the Internet.

Thank You.

I'm just REALLY GLAD that these laws have made it NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE for the average citizen to get their hands on ASSAULT WEAPONS. I mean, if people could easily get a HIGH QUALITY, 2 MOA .308 CALIBER WEAPON REALLY CHEAP, or HIGH CAPACITYmagazines and ARMOR PIERCING AMMUNITIONanyway, and all of this was COMPLETELY LEGAL, people would think these laws were FUCKING STUPID, ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS, and accomplished ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

I know I'd be about pissed if my tax dollars were wasted on a war on a STYLE of weapon that accomplished ABSOLUTELY NOTHING but make people purchase the hunting rifle version of the guns that ONLY LOOKED more dangerous. Especially if YOU COULD BUY THE FUCKING THINGS ANYWAY. Man. I'd be even more pissed if you could do it over the Internet.

Thank You.

I'm just REALLY GLAD that these laws have made it NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE for the average citizen to get their hands on ASSAULT WEAPONS. I mean, if people could easily get a HIGH QUALITY, 2 MOA .308 CALIBER WEAPON REALLY CHEAP, or HIGH CAPACITYmagazines and ARMOR PIERCING AMMUNITIONanyway, and all of this was COMPLETELY LEGAL, people would think these laws were FUCKING STUPID, ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS, and accomplished ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

I know I'd be about pissed if my tax dollars were wasted on a war on a STYLE of weapon that accomplished ABSOLUTELY NOTHING but make people purchase the hunting rifle version of the guns that ONLY LOOKED more dangerous. Especially if YOU COULD BUY THE FUCKING THINGS ANYWAY. Man. I'd be even more pissed if you could do it over the Internet.

Thank You.

I don't often participate in Slashdot discussions when politics is involved; for what reasons, I'm not sure. However, I feel that you have made some factually incorrect points, sir. Whether you know this or not is not my concern, rather giving proper information is.

The swift boat stuff was all concerned actions 30+ years ago. Did Kerry tell recent lies about those actions? I don't think so -- all the fact checking I've seen supports Kerry and says the swift boat gang are liars.

In fact Kerry has lied about href="http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=K erry+V+device&btnG=Search+News">his service

Even though President Bush's records have come to be something of a hinderance to his re-election campaign, my research on Senator Kerry has shown that he is far more apt to take liberty with his service record to be all things to all people. Therein lies John Kerry's major flaw: He wants to be on both sides of the fence--a decorated war hero and an anti-war advocate.

Posting anonymously, because the popular view on slashdot seems to be more liberal and libetarian, and I'm a bit more of a conservative geek than that.

Take your pick.

Take your pick.

Take your pick.

I don't know if anybody ever got fired for buying EMC, but if you are going to consider EMC as a solution, you should talk to the people at GunBroker.com, they use an EMC solution. They recently had a problem with the disk array, and here is a quote from their News and Announcements page:

"Our EMC disk array, which is supposed to guarantee 100% uptime, failed. It took EMC 24 hours to get it back online, and when they got it back online they corrupted our database"

Althought the reason for the failure has not been disclosed yet, I would think twice about buying EMC.

I don't know if anybody ever got fired for buying EMC, but if you are going to consider EMC as a solution, you should talk to the people at GunBroker.com, they use an EMC solution. They recently had a problem with the disk array, and here is a quote from their News and Announcements page:

"Our EMC disk array, which is supposed to guarantee 100% uptime, failed. It took EMC 24 hours to get it back online, and when they got it back online they corrupted our database"

Althought the reason for the failure has not been disclosed yet, I would think twice about buying EMC.

But what do we have to complain about in the US? A cybercrime treaty that the outgoing President signed. Well everyone ought to know that the treaty has to be ratified by congress before it is binding in the US. Odds of that happening are low, and if you call or email your congresscritters and let them know what you think it will be even lower.

Complaints about eBay. Well, they've been censoring things for a long time now. Try selling a gun on eBay (which you could do when they first opened). Not any longer. As a matter of fact, you cannot even sell a legal high capacity magazine on eBay these days! What's the answer? Other auction sites! Places like gunbroker.com have moved in to take over the segment of the market that eBay refuses to satisfy. That's freedom at work.

And the other thing that really frosts me is this insistence that requiring filtering on school and library computers (owned and paid for by all of us tax payers) is some kind of evil censorship. It isn't. If you want to browse your porn sites then get your own damn internet connection, don't do it on my dime. But they censor more than just port sites, you say. Well the answer to that is to lobby to get them to change (and reveal) the lists of the sites they block, not to remove the blocking completely.

And what reasonable parent would want to send their kid to the library to check out the latest Harry Potter book, only to have to walk by some pervert drooling over the latest Porn Pics.

Liberty and Freedom doesn't mean that you have the right to force the rest of us to pay for your habits. Keep it in your home, where it belongs. And don't forget -- when you accept Taxpayer Funds you have to also accept the strings that are attached.

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I've been buying hunting equipment from GunBroker for quite a while, I also use Ebay from time to time. About a month after a new feature of design element hits Ebay, GunBroker imitates it.