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Re:Justa silly question..
From what I saw somewhere else, you can give this command to get your existing Windows 7 or 8 key:
wmic path softwarelicensingservice get OA3xOriginalProductKey
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Re:Ohh Ohh
The diagram actually does look like the memory uses the same basic principle as magnetic core memory, but without the "magnetic core" bit, and at much higher speeds and densities.
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Re:no hardocp?
Where do you see that? The gallery and all image links go to images with a maxwidth of 960. Even viewing that raw image, which is:
http://hothardware.com/Content...
And changing it to something larger:
http://hothardware.com/Content... ... doesn't result in full res. Nor does:
http://hothardware.com/Content...I think you're full of shit, but feel free to post a link to correct me.
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Re:no hardocp?
Where do you see that? The gallery and all image links go to images with a maxwidth of 960. Even viewing that raw image, which is:
http://hothardware.com/Content...
And changing it to something larger:
http://hothardware.com/Content... ... doesn't result in full res. Nor does:
http://hothardware.com/Content...I think you're full of shit, but feel free to post a link to correct me.
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Re:no hardocp?
Where do you see that? The gallery and all image links go to images with a maxwidth of 960. Even viewing that raw image, which is:
http://hothardware.com/Content...
And changing it to something larger:
http://hothardware.com/Content... ... doesn't result in full res. Nor does:
http://hothardware.com/Content...I think you're full of shit, but feel free to post a link to correct me.
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Re:People still "buy" music - really?
Anything higher than 44.1/16 is scientifically proven to be wasteful.
Yes but be it SATA cables, Ethernet cables or higher than 44.1/16 you will find people that will believe their confirmation bias over facts.
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Re:Latency vs bandwidth
It only takes a queue depth of 2 or 3 for maximum linear throughput.
I haven't any idea why you are so up voted, because your flat out wrong, 5 minutes with a benchmark like ATTO allows you to see the performance with small sequential IO and queue depth. Another benchmark showing ATTO sequential IO's for small transfers
And, your sort of right the OS will do a certain amount of prefech/etc but that doesn't help when things are fragmented or the application/whatever is requesting things in a pattern that isn't easily predictable (say booting without a readyboot optimized system).
Try it out yourself, get the old sysinternals Disk Monitor and watch the size size attribute. Its in 512 byte sectors, and on my machine probably 1/3rd of the IO's are listed as "8". AKA 4k. Heck the example screenshot on the listed page is all 8 except for one 16.
So, yes small IO transfers are still an issue, and will be until we get OS's that can solve the hard problem of consolidating unpredictable IO streams. Heck a lot of people turn superfetch off because it slows things down. AKA aggressive prefetch isn't necessarily faster.
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QNAP TS-something-something with Linux
I'm using a TS-119+ with a 2TB disk inside. It's sitting in my wiring closet.
It's running MythTV for my TV/UPnP server, MythWeb for programming, Mediatomb to serve photos/videos via UPnP, and mt-daapd as an iTunes Music Server. I use PS/3s for the TV front-ends, and Roku Soundbridge 500s, 1000s, and 2000s for the music players.
It's about as close to silent as you get - I think it's fanless (you can see I'm not concerned enough about noise to find out). And it uses about 6w when it's idling.
I got into NAS solutions after I figured out running my MythTV system 24x7 was like leaving a 100 watt lightbulb on all the time, even when I didn't need it. I measured my old beige-box PC with a watt meter: a continuous 95 watts. And loud fans.
The QNAP delights me. All I could ask for that it doesn't do well is transcoding. There's just not enough CPU for it. But that'll come in time with some other NAS unit, or with offloading it via scripting to a full PC or Mac, when I get around to it.
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Re:Not sure what they're looking at?
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Re:Perhaps at last an affordable mini PC?
Have you seen a PC in the past 5 years that would honestly count as "game-changing"? Neither have I. Everything is an iterative step now.
Really. I've been looking for something like this since for projects 2009. The nVidia ION nano-ITX reference platform looked perfect, but NOBODY ever made it for sale:
http://hothardware.com/reviews...I did evaluate a Fit-PC2 , but it was too badly hobbled by the binary blob video driver. Plus, we had some severe issues with SATA that made it almost unusable with an SSD.
I'm glad CompuLab is trying an AMD version of this form factor. My only worry is with the AMD/ATi video, but it's been a long time since I had been burned by the ATi 7500 All-in-Wonder, which never received any of the OSS treatment promised from ATi (though it had great support from the GATOS project).
In the mean time, for both work and my home server, I ended up going with mini-ITX nVidia ION boxes, which were fast and flexible enough to build decent shoebox / piggyback PCs with full compiz compositing and could run just about any x86 software short of virtualization.
That said, just picked up the $100 HP Stream 7 tablet last month, and am liking it. I think that could possibly be some sort of game-changer, esp. once someone figures out how to bootstrap Linux on it, or maybe even if it's stuck with Win8.1
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Babble
Another added perk of VSR is the ability to see more content on the screen at once.
What is that supposed to mean?
http://hothardware.com/gallery...
^ Wow, that blurry, dark, downscaled JPEG really shows off the difference, doesn't it?
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Odd thermal dynamics
Despite the hype they make about the unencumbered airflow front and back, I seriously have my doubts on a system that has a pump-in fan so close to a pump-out fan.
I mean, look at the top triangle tip.
In their defense, there are 2 extra fans below, but some fluid dynamics graph would be nice for prooving good thermals exist there.
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Re:what?
Understanding the Workstation Market:
The first thing we need to talk about is the difference between workstation and consumer GPUs. The GPUs themselves are essentially identical -- NVIDIA's Quadro K6000 is based on GK104 (Kepler) the older Quadro 6000 is a GF100 (Fermi)-based chip, the W9000 uses the same GCN core that powers the HD 7970/R9 280X, and today's W9100 is essentially identical to the Hawaii XT core inside the R9 290X. What sets these workstation cards aside are the amount of RAM they carry (typically 2-3x as much as a consumer card), their validation cycles (workstation GPU cores are hammered on far more than the consumer equivalents) and the amount of backend vendor support and optimization that AMD and NVIDIA both perform.
This optimization process and long-term vendor partnership is what distinguishes the workstation market from the consumer space and the need to pay for some of those development costs is part of why workstation cards tend to cost so much more than their consumer equivalents.
From TFA.
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Re:What a waste of effort
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Re:Where are the 3.5" SSDs?
Why do SSD makers only make 2.5" SSDs?
They don't. The question is why do computer makers only support the HD form factor.
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Re:Please at least 6 sata ports and USB 3
Really? What part of SoC with SATA controller did you miss?
Quoting the story:
These latest AMD APUs aren’t strictly CPU and GPU cores crammed onto a single piece of silicon. They are full SoCs with on-die memory controllers, PCI Express, SATA, and USB connectivity, and a host of other interface elements. Connect one of these APUs to some memory and storage, and some I/O ports and you’ve essentially got a complete low-power, X86 compatible platform, with modern Radeon graphics.
Read more: http://hothardware.com/Reviews...
Even quoting the summary:
They are full SoCs with on-die memory controllers, PCI Express, SATA, and USB connectivity, and a host of other IO blocks.
Maybe you should step back a moment from your geekier-than-thou routine and read the specs like an actual geek.
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The lack of irony
The laptop manufacturer with an decade long ongoing power supply issue in almost every model now has battery issues? Say it isn't so! Oh, wait, this isn't 2009. We've already done this.
http://hothardware.com/News/So... -
Re:adware is malware
Of course if you use Microsoft approved advertising methods, and pay Microsoft the relevant fees, you'll get a pass.
That's exactly what's happening.
Windows 8 has a built-in advertising layer. Microsoft's not doing this to help customers, they're just eliminating competitors.
The answer of just how wrong Microsoft is to cram advertisements in its commercial software will differ from person to person, I'm sure. Me, I'm not too bothered, but I can totally relate to anyone who is. From all I can tell, none of the ads are intrusive, and I appreciate that. As for them being in paid software, that doesn't bother me either because of that above fact. However, I am bothered by other aspects.
The biggest mistake here on Microsoft's behalf is that no one is made aware of these ads until they happen to stumble on them. No one is going to expect ads to be loaded in their paid-for OS, so a notification of that at first boot would be appreciated. Further, no one is given the option to disable them (though I'm sure it'd take little more than an editing of the hosts file). Finally, there's also the fact that these ads haven't decreased the price of the OS, else that'd be a point Microsoft would no doubt flaunt.
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Three Article links are all the same?
At the time I posted this comment the three links in the article all go to one page, http://hothardware.com/News/In.... Oops. Could
/. or the author correct the links assuming two are missing or remove two of them, we really don't need three links all going to the same page. Thanks a bunch. -
Re:You can buy 2 TB flash drives now
Switching to SSD actually cuts heat, for example
Every time I compare SSD to HD, I don't see the power saving GB for GB unless you are talking trivial amounts of GB.
For example, Intel P3700 series SSD (2 TB max size) has a power consumption of 25 watts writing and 10 watts idle. Look at the collossal heat sink on that thing.
A Seagate ES.3 7200 rpm 2 TB SAS enterprise HD has a power consumption of 10 watts random read and 6 watts idle. Considering that the 4 TB model doesn't take much more power than that, the comparison for substantial storage sizes favors the HD even more.
Yeah, if you built an HD array to try to come close to the performance of that rip roaring SSD, the latter would come out ahead on power, but GB for GB it is actually a loser on power.
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Re:supplying fibre to every home
At the end of the day people don't want to be tethered to the end of a cable when viable wireless alternatives are soon to available. Australia's largest phone/internet provider Telstra is testing LTE-A Technology which Hits 300Mbps Wireless Speeds. It should be easer (supplied years sooner and much cheaper) to blanket OZ with LTE-A than spending $7,000 per household to supply fibre. http://hothardware.com/News/Australias-Telestra-Hits-300Mbps-Wireless-Speeds-With-LTEA-Technology/
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Re:This is not a fair comparison
Actually, if you look at the benchmarks it loses in everything but the GL benchmarks. Then go and look at the benchmarks at phonearena and the 5S hands the Nexus 5 it's ass on pretty much every test.
Actually, the Nexus 5 comes on top of the iPhone 5S in the GLBenchmark v2.5.1 tests in the HotHardware article, but loses in the GFXBench 2.7 tests in the Ars Technica article.
How did this happen? After all, GFXBench is the successor of GLBenchmark. My first guess was that maybe GFXBench 2.7 was compiled for 64-bits on the iPhone 5S, while GLBenchmark, being older, was probably running in 32-bit mode. (These tests measure mostly GPU performance, but getting the CPU to perform faster should help at least a little.) But it turns out that GFXBench 2.7 probably hasn't yet been recompiled to run in 64-bit mode on iOS yet.
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Re:We can trust them
They would never lie to us.
Let me back you up with three (3) citations;
1) Kinect: You Are the Controlled (June 10, 2012 @03:14PM)
Discusses patent #201201436931. A computer-implemented method to determine emotional states of users that receive advertisements on client devices, the method comprising:
monitoring a user's online activity during a time period; processing the online activity to identify a tone associated with content that the user interacted with during the time period; receiving an indication of the user's reaction to the content; and assigning an emotional state to the user based on the tone of the content and the indication of the user's reaction to the content....
4. The computer-implemented method of claim 1, wherein the indication of the user's reaction is identified from facial expressions of the user captured by an image capture device during the time period.
5. The computer-implemented method of claim 1, wherein the indication of the user's reaction is identified from user speech patterns captured by an audio capture device during the time period.
6. The computer-implemented method of claim 1, wherein the indication of the user's reaction is identified from gestures and body movements of the user captured by an image capture device during the time period.2) Hacked iRobot Uses XBox Kinect To See World (November 18, 2010 @02:59AM)
Discusses Dennis DurkinDennis Durkin, who is both COO and CFO for Microsoft's Xbox group, told investors this week that Kinect can also be used by advertisers to see how many people are in a room when an ad is on screen, and to custom-tailor content based on the people it recognizes.
3) Microsoft Integrating Xbox One Advertising With Kinect To Profile Users For Ads (July 05, 2013 @10:01PM )
Discusses the next generation of the XboxAccording to Xbox staff, the new console is exciting because "the 360 console wasn't built with advertising in mind, it was more of an afterthought... whereas this new one is going to have advertising in mind."
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Re:What is the point of 64 bit?
Nobody did market "cores", as in a small number of parts of a GPU.
Here's one example
Here's another.
Here's anotherNone of these were before Apple started marketing cores and refer to the same type of "core" that Apple invented.
Anyway, I was talking about phones and tablets. Apple is the first one use use the word "core" while describing its phone GPU when announcing a new phone.Apple could easily double their CPU performance because they were already 50% slower than the competition.
64 bit is also more power hungry than 32 bit. A 64 bit register uses twice as much power as a 32 bit register. If you use it to make computation on small integers (which is what 99% of applications in the app store do), you use twice the power for no benefit. -
Re:What is the point of 64 bit?
Nobody did market "cores", as in a small number of parts of a GPU.
Here's one example
Here's another.
Here's another
Sure seem to be a lot of nobody's around.What about a fallacy. Just because they doubled the performance doesn't mean that it's because of 64 bit. It's more likely a better architecture and increased clock speed.
It's more likely the whole combination of features. Apple has gotten very good at optimizing performance for mobile devices by cleverly matching the capabilities of their chips to their software. I doubt if going to 64 bit is solely responsible for the increased performance, but I also doubt if it's irrelevant. A doubling of effective performance is a big change for going from one generation to the next of a chip. Apple certainly didn't double clock speed--that would be too expensive in terms of battery usage.
I think that the notion that 64-bit offers little per formance improvement aside from a larger address space comes from people who are more familiar with PCs, which have loads of RAM to play with. But RAM is power-hungry, so cell phones are RAM-constrained. As a result, cell phones are constantly shuffling data back and forth between RAM and Flash memory, and it needs to do this very fast, because users are impatient with lag in a mobile device. And moving data is one place where wider registers yields a big benefit.
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Re:OMG four whole months to wait.
never mind that it's usually just breaking even with competing quad-cores with lower frequency but higher IPC.
AMD has clearly lost the performance war. But I'm still hoping the brand sticks around because I believe it's the only thing keeping Intel CPU prices low.
But in any event, I think the really important point is in the end of this article - http://hothardware.com/News/Praying-For-Consoles-AMD-Details-2013-Game-Plan-Offers-Updates-on-New-APU-Performance/ - AMD is banking its future on the APUs in embedded applications, low end laptops, and consoles. Unless they get into tablets and mobile devices in big ways, I think they're planning to grow their share of a market that's shrinking rapidly. "King of console processors" is meaningless if 90% of the demographic that played Xbox360 in 2005 is playing on an iPad in 2020. -
Not an ad, please read in context
Also, I noted the Dell machine as "an example" of more powerful configs that are coming to AIOs now. Apple's line of iMac have definitely been better in terms of higher-end components over the years. I could have also cited HP's new Z1 - http://hothardware.com/Reviews/HP-Z1-27inch-AIO-Workstation-Review/ - which has an Intel Xeon processor and NVIDIA Quadro pro graphics engine under the hood but again these are new machines and the point was, as tech has marched on, the all-in-one has gotten much more capable from a performance standpoint.
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Bucephalus Bouncing Phone
If my phone bounces like the ball does in the demo video here, them for the first time in my life, I will happily pay a premium for a shiny apple case.
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Re:Judgement day is coming!
Despite the exciting name, all this stuff does is protect against bounces. Its appearance is somewhere between glass and metal. This better article from the site demonstrates the absurd amount of elastic energy it can handle.
Also, let's drop the "enable" part from the title: this product was already in use in both Apple products and products from other companies and has just been bought out exclusively by Apple as far as the tech sector is concerned. If anything that's a loss.
But, hey, I'm glad to know that we can finally have futuristic-looking mobile devices due to this exclusive patent licence! Thanks guys!
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Re:Microsoft?
No, Chrome and Chromebook were first.
http://hothardware.com/News/Netflix-Backing-HTML5-But-Not-Without-DRM-In-Place/
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hothardwarewtf
"Sony ditched the curvaceous aesthetics that previous PlayStation consoles relied on and went with an angular motif"
Uh what, and also what? Someone's never seen the original Playstation, or any Playstation 2. Or any PS2 accessories.
"the latter of which makes it a little like a modern day VCR player"
A modern day videocassette recorder player?
"(if the format were still around)."
psssst it is. For the few old people who refuse to switch to discs. I keep a VCR around (a six-head sony I got from fry's as an open box for $35) because I often find surprisingly current movies on VHS at yard sales for a buck or less.
Anyway, complaints about the article aside, the PS3 clearly has more hack value for anyone but a roboticist, who might want to use the new Kinect. So I sure hope someone blows the locks off this thing, because it would be a sweet machine to buy used someday.
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Re:Fascinating misues of adjectives there!
P.S. --> the score in question from my previous post was for Cinebench 11.5, but there are many many others like it. And don't think that OpenCL holds any miracles for Trinity either, the 4600 is actually a better OpenCL part than it is a GPU.
Really? Because the one OpenCL benchmark I can find in TFA pegs the new chips at 2.5 times faster than the 4600 that comes with the i5-4670k. I wouldn't consider a part that is less than half as fast to be "better." Maybe that's just me? Could be. Also, I wouldn't say "at best" 20% faster when several benchmarks peg it at 30% or more. The Enemy Territory: Quake Wars high-res benchmark, in particular, is... hilariously one sided (and since most people are going to be playing at high-res settings, it's a benchmark that actually matters). Actually, all the high-res gaming tests are, with the new chips often coming in close to twice the Haswell chips. In fact, the Cinebench 11.5 tests peg the Richland at 60% faster than the i5-4670k, so I'm not sure where the hell you got any of your numbers from.
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Re:Fascinating misues of adjectives there!
P.S. --> the score in question from my previous post was for Cinebench 11.5, but there are many many others like it. And don't think that OpenCL holds any miracles for Trinity either, the 4600 is actually a better OpenCL part than it is a GPU.
Really? Because the one OpenCL benchmark I can find in TFA pegs the new chips at 2.5 times faster than the 4600 that comes with the i5-4670k. I wouldn't consider a part that is less than half as fast to be "better." Maybe that's just me? Could be. Also, I wouldn't say "at best" 20% faster when several benchmarks peg it at 30% or more. The Enemy Territory: Quake Wars high-res benchmark, in particular, is... hilariously one sided (and since most people are going to be playing at high-res settings, it's a benchmark that actually matters). Actually, all the high-res gaming tests are, with the new chips often coming in close to twice the Haswell chips. In fact, the Cinebench 11.5 tests peg the Richland at 60% faster than the i5-4670k, so I'm not sure where the hell you got any of your numbers from.
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Re:Fascinating misues of adjectives there!
P.S. --> the score in question from my previous post was for Cinebench 11.5, but there are many many others like it. And don't think that OpenCL holds any miracles for Trinity either, the 4600 is actually a better OpenCL part than it is a GPU.
Really? Because the one OpenCL benchmark I can find in TFA pegs the new chips at 2.5 times faster than the 4600 that comes with the i5-4670k. I wouldn't consider a part that is less than half as fast to be "better." Maybe that's just me? Could be. Also, I wouldn't say "at best" 20% faster when several benchmarks peg it at 30% or more. The Enemy Territory: Quake Wars high-res benchmark, in particular, is... hilariously one sided (and since most people are going to be playing at high-res settings, it's a benchmark that actually matters). Actually, all the high-res gaming tests are, with the new chips often coming in close to twice the Haswell chips. In fact, the Cinebench 11.5 tests peg the Richland at 60% faster than the i5-4670k, so I'm not sure where the hell you got any of your numbers from.
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Re:CPU speed?
4.4 GHz? Oddly not mentioned in TFA....
See page 2
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Re:This can't be real
Ha! That's pretty funny and you're right. Should have used one of these: http://hothardware.com/Reviews/The-Definitive-3D-Printer-Roundup-Cubify-Up-Solidoodle/
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Re:And for faster performance
Actually, I'd love it if I could get more processing power just by expanding my RAM. Maybe something like Venray is doing with their TOMI technology.
You can still have your main multi-core CPU; it would just talk to the parallel units in RAM like it does to your GPGPU, ASICs, DMA controllers, etc.
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Exotic Architecture Failure
Posting Anonymously on purpose...
Roadrunner was a failure from the beginning. We learned quite a while ago that there is more to a supercomputer than just hardware... you have to have software that uses that hardware. Buying into exotic architectures without thinking about the consequences that's going to have for the people creating the software that needs a supercomputer is a terrible idea.
Roadrunner was as bad as it gets in this regard... proprietary accelerators that caused you to hardcode your software directly for running on that machine and none other at all.
But, it appears that we haven't learned our lesson: http://hothardware.com/News/Solder-Problems-Trip-Up-Titan-Supercomputer-Delay-Final-Certification/
At least Titan's Nvidia cards can be addressed using OpenCL and/or CUDA... so there is some hope that if they ever get it to work properly they might have some software to run on it...
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Re:And it still looks like
And it still looks like shit.
Hehheh! A little comparison: Windows Blue screenshot from the Hothardware article and default Ubuntu desktop. Indeed, which one looks better...
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Re:Emulation with hacks is good enough
The Wii-U has a three core cpu. The individual cores are Power-PC Broadway, the same as the Wii and Gamecube single core. The Wii-U likely just disables two of the cores and down-clocks the remaining one when running in Wii mode.
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Re:Older = how old?
..and its 140W TDP, significantly more than the 8800 GT or 9800 GT NVidia card that was $200 when they pieced together their 5 year old system, so they need a new power supply too.What's with making up values for variables when someone already performed the experiment? The old card was a GTX 260 and the new one used LESS POWER.
From TFA:
The 30W difference between the two cards is impressive considering that we've only swapped out a single component. What's really striking, however, is the power efficiency difference as measured in frames per watt. The GTX 260-equipped system draws 250W to output a 30 FPS frame rate; the EVGA GTX 660 system nearly doubles the FPS rate to 63, while drawing 12% less power. It also packs more than 2x the RAM and a roughly twice the number of transistors.
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Re:any objective numbers?
Wii U doesn't use a Power 7.
Source: http://hothardware.com/News/IBM-Confirms-WII-U-Utilizes-PowerBased-CPU-Not-Power-7/
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Re: IMB cpu
Incorrect. It's neither a quad core nor POWER7. It's basically a triple core version of what's in the Wii but clocked higher. Some developers have said that it's weaker than the Xbox 360 and PS3 in terms of CPU.
http://hothardware.com/News/IBM-Confirms-WII-U-Utilizes-PowerBased-CPU-Not-Power-7/
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Re:Marketing Speech? 10 writes per day for five ye
This is about right. MLC flash normally is rated for between 1k and 10k cycles. Newer flash is generally less as transistor sizes are shrunk to fit in more gbytes in the same die area.
Data retention figures would be interesting too. Last I heard, the strategy for dealing with that at smaller feature sizes was to make the disk periodically rewrite all the data, which of course will eat into your write cycles.
[checks articles]
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use cases?
Hello,
When it comes to servers, I use comparatively few (a small lab with a few rack's worth that used for research projects) at work, so I'm wondering what sort of tasks these would be useful for? It sounds like they'll run RHEL and other Linux distributions, but even after looking at the second slide in this presentation, it's unclear to me advantage this would be to a a small business, or, in my case, a small department in a larger organization.
Is this new CPU/server line intended only for the enterprise? If so, what would the "trickle down effect" be for small groups like my own? Also, why would someone want to throw out their investment in existing hardware (including whatever talent they might have at programming and maintaining said hardware) for a design that's relatively proprietary?
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K20 ~ kepler : better perf/watt than GCN/SI
Although previous generation AMD used to be more flops/watt, the new generation of Kepler GPUs from Nvidia are quite a bit better than AMD's current generation (GCN / southern islands).
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-680-Review-Kepler-Debuts/?page=15
FYI: The K20 used in the Titan system are Kepler based.
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Re:It's not just consumer drives
True, but MLC has come a long way. For example, the Z-Drive R5 has ridiculous specs: 2.52 million IOPS and 7.2GB/s throughput.
I'd like to see the workload for which that is "just not good enough"! 8)
It seems that a workload in which reliability is a factor would meet your challenge criteria.
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Re:It's not just consumer drives
True, but MLC has come a long way. For example, the Z-Drive R5 has ridiculous specs: 2.52 million IOPS and 7.2GB/s throughput.
I'd like to see the workload for which that is "just not good enough"! 8)
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Re:Wow
And these AMD chips still double the system power consumption over their Intel counterparts.
Nice, article, except it's comparing apples and oranges.
The Intel core i3 series, especially the 3x series which the article uses, are mobile processors, while the amd A10-5x, A8-5x etc shown in the article are the Desktop version.
The actual mobile version of amd takes up way less watts than intel., having a maximum of 35-40 watts under load.
Still, nice FUD.
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Re:Wow
Or, more accurately, AMD's integrated video is better than Intel's integrated video (seriously, that's all they tested!).
And these AMD chips still double the system power consumption over their Intel counterparts.So if you're part of the subset of gamers that morally object to dedicated video cards but still enjoy noisy fans and high electricity bills, AMD has a product just for you! Woo!