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NVIDIA has launched the latest refresh of their GeForce 7 series of 3D Graphics for the desktop today and took the wraps off their new GeForce 7900GTX, GeForce 7900GT and GeForce 7600GT cards. There's a full review and showcase at HotHardware, along with benchmarks that show these new 90nm built GPUs have very strong performance with lower power and even better price points. In fact the GeForce 7900 series will cost much less than NVIDIA's former high-end the GeForce 7800 series. The GeForce 7900GT in particular offers $500 graphics card level performance, reportedly at a much more palatable $299 price point.

NVIDIA has launched the latest refresh of their GeForce 7 series of 3D Graphics for the desktop today and took the wraps off their new GeForce 7900GTX, GeForce 7900GT and GeForce 7600GT cards. There's a full review and showcase at HotHardware, along with benchmarks that show these new 90nm built GPUs have very strong performance with lower power and even better price points. In fact the GeForce 7900 series will cost much less than NVIDIA's former high-end the GeForce 7800 series. The GeForce 7900GT in particular offers $500 graphics card level performance, reportedly at a much more palatable $299 price point.

When do we see the first one for false advertising?

According to HotHardware ATI 9700 Pro was suppoused to support HDCP. And now we learn that they don't? I don't know about you, but in Finland it is illegal to market a product with false statements.

Let the law suites begin!

I personally think Bill Gates is your like your Dad, while Steve Jobs is your Stoner Uncle!

I think the team at Hexus need their heads examined. What a mess of an article that is, if you can even get a chance to read it with their playskool server going inaccessible. The other sites listed above have much more balanced, thorough coverage.

HotHardware does a nice job of looking in detail at all the different levels of AA and Ansio image quality

And still working at that.

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=202&type=expe rt
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=OTUz
http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2006q1/radeon-x1 900/index.x?pg=1
http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.aspx?articl eid=777&cid=2
http://www.beyond3d.com/reviews/ati/r580/

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=197&type=expe rt
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx? i=2668
http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.aspx?articl eid=767&cid=1
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlo n64-fx60.html
http://www.lostcircuits.com/cpu/amd_fx60/
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2006/01/10/amd_at hlon_64_fx-60/1.html

In contrast, there are also more benchmarks and tests here at HotHardware, that show a more significant lead for the new AMD dual-core chip.

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=182&type=expe rt
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=ODg1
http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2005q4/geforce-7 800gtx-512/index.x?pg=1
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2607
http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.aspx?articl eid=751&cid=2
http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/285/

Listed alphabetically.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2593
http://www.avault.com/hardware/getreview.asp?revie w=evga6800gs
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/hardware/grafik karten/2005/test_nvidia_geforce_6800_gs/
http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/X16_GS/index.h tm
http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/278/
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=ODgy
http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.aspx?articl eid=747&cid=2
http://www.noticias3d.com/articulo.asp?idarticulo= 541
http://www.nvnews.net/previews/geforce_6800_gs/ind ex.shtml
http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q4/geforce-6800g s/index.x?pg=1

There are lots of other reviews out there, too. Looks like the 6800GS kicks the X1600 where it hurts. Over and over and over again.

- [H]ard|OCP
- Avault
- Computer Base
- Driver Heaven
- Guru3D
- Hartware
- HotHardware
- Noticia3D
- nV News
- The Tech Report

I shamelessly stole this list from Hardocp.com

Okay. According to this page, at full-tilt the Pentium D 820 consumes 130.6W, while this page says the Athlon 64 X2 3800+ consumes 89W. So, how long would the Opteron have to run at full blast to make up the difference in cost of $87? Last month I paid $0.078 per kilowatt-hour. This seems to be reasonably average for the United States. 130.6W - 89W = 41.6W difference between the two. Some back of the Google-calculator math reveals: (US$ 87) / (41.6 W * ((US$ 0.078) / (kW * Hr))) = 3.05871582 years. A not-insignifigant amount of time. If you're in an area where electricity is more expensive like New York or California, the amount of time is even less!

Feel free to correct my math!

Drop a Thinkpad and a VAIO and I know which one my money is on...

This is yet another story in the past year that makes me wonder if Slashdot really has just become an advertising venue, willingly, or through negligence.

This thing uses twice as much power as a 7800gtx/6800ultra.

How bad is that? It can be quantified: A 6800gt, lower clocked & only 12 pipelines, sucks down 38 watts at idle: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article265-page4.htm l
38 watts doing nothing!

Accounting for more pipelines & higher core & memory clocks, the 6800ultra sucks down around 50 watts at idle. The 7800gtx & x850xt burn roughly the same: http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2496&p=1 0

And here: http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.cfm?article id=734
we see the x1800xt burns 50 watts more than the x850. Ergo, this sucker burns around 100 Watts just sitting there.

Going by the anand results, the 7800gt uses 27 Watts less than an ultra, which would means it uses less than the 6800gt, 50-27=23 watts at idle. We have a winner!

obviously you missed the fact that when gaming at 1600x1200 and are using 4x antialiasing and 8x anisotropic filtering that the x1800xt beats the shit out of the gf7800.

if you're buying a 500 dollar card, are you seriously worried about benchmarks that are run without aa+af? this card even does HDR (hi dynamic range) plus AA, something that the gf7800 can't.

this card is way more sophisticated and highly refined that the brute force 7800. the 7800 isn't bad but that this card can do with 16 pipelines what the 7800 can't do with 24, says a lot.

and that's just raw performance with todays games. never mind the fact that the 1800xt comes with 512megs of super fast ram... ready for well into the next generation of games, whereas 256meg 7800's are already obsolete for the high end of the next generation. sure 256 will be enough if you pare down the resolution and lower the texture detail. one example is the game F.E.A.R... on the 1800xt it absolutely trounces the 7800 in performance.

my advice... read ALL the reviews you can get your hands on. there are too many discrepencies if you only read one or two. if you want to get a more full picture, get to reading.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2552

http://www.beyond3d.com/reviews/ati/r520/

http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/r520reviewxvxv /

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1867116 ,00.asp

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/ati_radeon_x18 00_xt_xl/

http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/262/

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=ODIy

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=3603

http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.cfm?article id=734&cid=2

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews /ati_radeon_x1800_x1600preview

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=172

http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/article.php?id=407

http://www.techreport.com/onearticle.x/8864

and check out the wicked new 3d tech demos... both are very impressive but the toystore demo is jawdropping.

http://www.ati.com/designpartners/media/edudemos/R adeonX1k.html

wmv9 hi def format but plays fine in mplayer or VLC.

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=3603&pa ge=8/ ATI IS FASTER!

http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.cfm?article id=734&cid=2/ ATI is slower :(

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Here it is in printable version

Indeed it did... here's a review.

http://www.beyond3d.com/reviews/ati/crossfire/
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2005/09/26/ati_cr ossfire_detail/1.html
http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/crossfireatire viewxxx/
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=ODE1
http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.cfm?article id=730&cid=2
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=168
http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/article.php?id=404
http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q3/ati-crossfire /index.x?pg=1
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20050926/ index.html

If I recall correctly, 3dfx -- pre-nVidia buy-out -- had developed the hardware for anti-aliasing, over-brights, and other image processing effects in their briefly released Voodoo 5 series of graphics cards. In a http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.cfm?page=2& articleid=487&cid=2series of screenshots released prior to the buy-out, they showcased working depth-of-field blur and motion-blur filters in Quake 3 Arena. To my knowledge, these effects should be present in modern nVidia graphics cards proceeding the purchase. I could be mistaken, but I'm fairly certain the image processing technology 3dfx was working on was included in said purchase. With that said, I'm certain many improvements upon these technologies could easily be made given the processing power of newer video cards.

HotHardware also has a full review with benchmarks here. Good stuff....

ATI is already shipping DirectX 9 class IGPs for both AMD and Intel, and the reviews are looking pretty good: here's an ASUS board for Intel CPUs, and a review of the AMD chipset. If you're looking for very good IGP, these definitely look like a very good option!

AMDZone.com Tech Report Sudhian Hexus Hot Hardware Anandtech xbit xbit PCWorld Trusted Reviews

That device looks unweildy and is undoubtedly exceeding the max weight limit intel or amd would want you to use for a heat sink. Quite frankly i don't see the point of a computer that requires you to fill it daily in order to run it. Overclocking should only go so far, they have some nice professional compressor based solutions that should be able to achieve similar performance without the hassle of purchasing dry ice on a regular basis. One I know is called vapochill. Dry ice with no load is around -75 C whereas the vapochill should be around -45 C

http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.cfm?article id=565&cid=9

And if you were to go the dry ice route, since AFAIK dry ice isnt conductive, why don't they just build the entire computer into an icebox (not the hard drive), and put a regular passive heat sink on the processor rather than construct that monstrosity of plumbing. I would think the overclocked memory and chipset would benefit equally as well. Oh and of course throw in some sacks of silica gel in there, don't want to have condensation now.:]

Toppling 3dfx by creating the best hardware? Nope, they did it the Microsoft way:

1. steal technology from 3dfx
2. make loads of money using stolen tech
3. buy 3dfx
4. let 3dfx to rot

http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.cfm?article id=433

Feel free to look up more (just query nvidia patent 3dfx on Google).

Here are some more sites covering it... all about the same content, really:
viperlair.com
hardocp.com
techreport.com
thetechzone.com
tweaktown.com
thetechzone.com
hothardware.com
hexus.net
pcper.com
legionhardware.com
thetechlounge.com
bigbruin.com

Check out this review to learn a little bit more about the Pentium M. According to their information, and what I saw on Intel's website - the Pentium M's can have a juntion temperature of 100 degrees C (where the proc meets the paste). They ran their Pentium M at 35.5 degrees C overclocked to 2.53GHz!!! They said that P4s idle at 53 degrees C. So I would say this is pretty good. Someone else is more than welcome to find other temperatures for a more balanced comparison.

Jesus F Christ, just because Apple comes out with a product with the word "mini" in it doesn't mean they invented it! Or are you going to be giving credit to Apple for the Mini Cooper and the years old concept of the "MiniPC". You goddamned Apple fanboys need to get a grip.

Here are some other reviews:
TechReport
AnandTech
HotHardware

Some of these make a little more sense because they benchmark the 6200TC against some of its direct competitors in the low end instead of against a mid range card.

I think Gamers Depot's conclusion is a bit off too. What's notable isn't that it is slower than enthusiast cards. Of course it is. What's surprising is how well it still runs the very newest games, despite the drawbacks associated with that pricing range.

http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.cfm?article id=592&cid=1
http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q4/athlon64-fx55 /index.x?pg=1
http://www.bit-tech.net/review/364/
http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=266
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1 666
http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/article.php?id=331
http://www.amdreview.com/reviews.php?rev=fx-55-400 0
http://www.techwarelabs.com/reviews/processors/amd 4000_fx55/
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=Njc1
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlo n64-fx55.html
http://www.sudhian.com/showdocs.cfm?aid=614

Ati makes a HDTV tuner as well. Linky

Toms Hardware says otherwise.

Yeah, the charts are quite a bit old. But the price drops from both companies since then seem to be very comparable.

Well, I'll begin by stating that since I consider accelerated OpenGL drivers for Linux to be an important part of "bang" that pretty well kills the ATI lineup right off the bat. ;-)

However, looking at these results with the 9600XT at around $138 and the 5900 XT at around $173 (current prices), the 5900 comes out well ahead on FPS/$. The 9800 Pros are somewhat more expensive (~$200) but offer a slight performance edge - I'd say about even on bang-per-buck - using Windows that is. Under Linux, no comparison.

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ATI's goal is to offer a complete HDTV solution for an MSRP of $199. The package will include the HDTV Wonder, a Remote Wonder and a yet to be determined antenna. Throw in a potent Multimedia Center 9 and you have the makings for a sweet HDTV experience. To get the full experience of the card, users will need to use it in conjunction with an ATI graphics card to take advantage of such features as ThruView and Video Desktop, but the card will work with other DirectX 9 compatible OEM products otherwise.

Too bad MythPC's track record for supporting ATI hardware hasn't been the greatest. If your on the windows side of the fence I suggest looking at Media Portal. Its fairly new to the HTPC scene but looks promising and works with just about any card.

Being a Radeon 7500 All in Wonder user I'm very happy to see the HDTV Wonder as a PCI card. I was sure when I bought my AGP 7500 AIW it was going to be the last card I would need in a very long time.

I also use Girder and an ATI Remote Wonder for my HTPC setup. The ATI remote came bundled with a Radeon 7500 All In Wonder and they work flawlessly together. The MyHTPC software also works wonders. There is an ATI Remote Wonder plugin available for MyHTPC too.

As for the keyboard and mouse, I use a Logitech cordless mouse and keyboard which does the job nicely. I keep the mouse on the coffee table and the keyboard in one of the drawers. The only tricky part is keeping the RF receiver on the computer far enough away from the components in your home theater as the cord on the unit is not very long.

I also have a 4 port USB hub running to a spot under the couch that allows me to quickly connect or disconnect things like USB Thumb Drives or USB Gamepads. I use the gamepads for many of the games on the system like GTA Vice City and MAME. Specifically I like the Gravis Gamepad Pro (BB $15, Nice mapping software), the Nyko AirFlo PC (BB $20, Dual Analog sticks, Air Flow technology), and if you can find it the GF USB Control Pad (BB $10, Dual Analog sticks). All of the gamepads work well with Girder and the games I use them for. Sometimes it is nice to have 3 or 4 different gamepads for N64 Emulators because it is easier to know which gamepad you are configuring. Before I had 4 Gravis Gamepad Pro's which was a pain because I had to label them 1 - 4 but windows would not allow me to change their names.

Of course VNC is a must but aside from that if you get your bindings tight in girder you can do almost anything with MyHTPC and a good remote.

notice that the center bottom one has an ATI chip? I don't see ATI mentioned anywhere in the article... hmmmmm

I suppose by 'exactly' you mean 'completely different'.

Apparantly it's "EASIER TO INSERT THAN AN ALIEN PROBE" though, according to the article.

I wonder if MXM comes with that feature? I'd hate to be part of Alienware's demographic.

-Adam

Hate to reply to myself but forgot to mention that these figures were taken from here, and the FPS were for no-aa, no-af.

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HotHardware

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HardOCP
Ascully
DriverHeaven
TrustedReviews
K-Hardware
Hardware Analysis
Hexus
The Tech Report
Beyond3D
Neoseeker
ExtremeTech
Gamers Depot
Lost Circuits
Firing Squad
Tom's Hardware
Bjorn3D
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There is also a full review with benchmarks up at HotHardware of Intel's new Pentium 4 3.4GHz chips and the new CPUs do fairly well but that Prescott sure is a scorcher under load!

As covered by arstechnica, there are also reviews at [H]ardOCP, Hexus, HotHardware.com, Sudhian, and The Tech Report. AMD's official announcement is here.

My cheap Shuttle 'Spacewalker' PC Clone motherboard ended prematurely all on it's own, thankyouverymuch.

Just kidding. But this sounds like a the results of a late night drinking session with the engineering and marketing departments. Scratching is 'hot'. And visuals are hot. Scatching (um, jog) videos is NOT.

This is still more interesting to me.

• Rio Karma (20G) for day to day use, Rio Cali (256mb version) for the gym (Wow just did a currency conversion, and even with the exchange it's about $100CND cheaper to buy this in the states (assuming the $169USD pricetag seen on froogle.google.com)
• AOpen DRW4410 DVD Writer (at under $100 US it'd be cheaper than the above items :)
• Linux compatible Serial ATA card for my fileserver (the Silicon Graphics chipsets don't seem to do linux RAID, but according to some of the forum posts it is possible to get it working). This is just an interim solution until I upgrade the whole box and put in a motherboard with a SATA chip, so just looking for something that works :)
• A couple of big ass SATA hard drives to go with it.
• Aliens Quadrilogy DVD
• A USB keychain storage device... 64 or 128 megs of storage to keep important files safe. According to a recent Linux Journal article, they are the floppies for the new millenium.
• Canon Digital Rebel or...
• Pentax Digital *ist
• Add on bits for my Canon A70 Digital Camera
• Another nice shirt like I got from mom for my birthday
• $1,000,000
• A house that exactly meets what I want (and only costs $1)
• A subscription to Popular Photography Magazine
• A huge and over priced flat panel TV, ungodly expensive reciever, and speakers of such high quality that even the most freakish audiophiles will cry for mercy (this will go in the house I mentioned above).
• CDRs
• CDRWs
• DVDRs (to go with the DVD writer mentioned above)

Will we all need an Asetek VapoChill to keep chips using these things cool?

Funny, looks like the P4 schooled the Athlon 64.

Me want.

It rolls over a P4 3.2 gig in the gaming benchmarks.

I guess I am assuming that the Athlon 64 doesn't have some special Quake benchmarking code... :)

Did anybody else notice this in the article?

"With Windows XP 64-bit Edition, the new memory limit is 16 terabytes, or 16,000MB (264 = 18,446,744,073,709,551,161) and all of that RAM will be available to the OS and applications."

I assume that is a typo, otherwise I've had a terabyte of RAM, and 80 terabytes of disk storage, for the past year...

Next time read the article first. The information you wish is presented on this page of the review.