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As you can see, these controllers cost from $59 to $85. Last weekend Fry's was selling a retail boxed 1800 MHz Athlon XP processor with fan included and an ECS motherboard for $59 total. So $80 seems like a lot for a little card with one chip and a flash ROM.

Damn, we paid about $500 for an UltraSCSI 320 RAID controller and you think 80 bucks is expensive? And each one of the 75 GB drives cost $550, ouch!

I guess you allready figured out that I work for the govn't. 8) It's not the same planet as the private sector.

hp doesn't certify Linux on what exactly? PCs?

Before you bash hp for not certifying your Presario/Pavillion with Linux, maybe you should check out their web pages on Linux certified solutions.

You can start here and here for your desktops and here for your HA support.

Maybe you missed out on the whole multi-os strategy they've been pushing lately?

hp doesn't certify Linux on what exactly? PCs?

Before you bash hp for not certifying your Presario/Pavillion with Linux, maybe you should check out their web pages on Linux certified solutions.

You can start here and here for your desktops and here for your HA support.

Maybe you missed out on the whole multi-os strategy they've been pushing lately?

hp doesn't certify Linux on what exactly? PCs?

Before you bash hp for not certifying your Presario/Pavillion with Linux, maybe you should check out their web pages on Linux certified solutions.

You can start here and here for your desktops and here for your HA support.

Maybe you missed out on the whole multi-os strategy they've been pushing lately?

IDE to Compact Flash Adapter

Flash Storage Solutions

Read all this thread if you will be storing sensitive information

How Compact Flash can keep your data safe?

This guy has an opinon different from mine. He says that, all of a sudden, he lost hundreds of picture. Well, I've been working with Compact Flash for more than one year, now, and the ONLY time I gost corrupted data was when I took the card off the camera while it was writing. Then the camera could not read any picture. They seemed to be lost. But later I put that CF in my CF reader, and ran a chkdsk. It found lost chains, that I saved as files. And recovered ALL pictures except for the bottom half of the one it was writing at the very moment when I removed the CF. It probably corrupted the FAT (same way as hard disks, when the computer is not properly shut down).

And I do think CF is more reliable than Microdrive.

According to this story over at The Inquirer [...], SCO has officially announced that HP is safe from their infringement lawsuit brigade ...

No.

I realize that this is slightly off-topic, but it's still on the subject of Linux hardware support :). My HP 5L is on its last legs and I'm in the market for a new printer (nah, it's not he separator pad this time).

I've found LinuxPrinting.org and while it's a useful resource, it doesn't include all the printers I'm considering. For instance, while the HP section seems to be completely current, the Samsung section is missing a few.

I'm in the market for a 1200dpi b/w laser printer and some of the printers I'm considering at the moment are the LaserJet 1200se (or LaserJet 1300) from HP and the ML-1750 (or ML-1651) from Samsung. Of course, neither the ML-1750 nor the ML-1651 are listed on LinuxPrinting.org's Samsung page :-/.

Here's my rationale for each. The HP LaserJet 1200se is HP's cheapest laser that can do 1200dpi -- but I get the impression that it may have been discontinued and the 1300 may be easier to actually find. And, the ML-1750 is Samsung's cheapest 1200dpi laser, but it only gets "1200x600dpi", which I don't know whether that means it's has "real" 1200dpi support or not :-/. And, the ML-1651 is a bit more expensive than the ML-1750 but supports 1200x1200dpi.

Any suggestions?

He's saying that as far as the corporate world goes, Linux == RedHat | SuSE. If you buy a pre-installed Linux box from some IT vendor somewhere, it will have RedHat or SuSE on it. This is basically true.

There are some small companies like HP that also offer Mandrake.

If I was to ask Dell, HP, or IBM if Mandrake ran on their servers, they'd say "Maybe but don't ask for it in writing"

Since you specified "servers", I can't say that's untrue, but HP certainly says that Mandrake runs on desktops from HP, and the interview did talk a lot about Linux desktops.

Linux means two companies: Red Hat and SuSE, and nobody else. There will be no third distribution that will be supported by the large IT vendors.

Thats bullshit.

HP/Compaq bundles Mandrake.

And certifies systems for Redhat, SuSE, Mandrake, and TurboLinux.

If HP isn't considerd a "large IT vendor," who is?

HP's OfficeJet 5100 seen here is an excellent choice. The fax, scanner and color print works great. Although you're limited to one regular-sized page faxes, it does the trick for 95% of the work.

The Fax functionality works without the computer on, which is another plus that you do not find with other multi-function printers with software drivers that process the fax messages. You just have to plug the printer into the phone and away you go.

Hint: if you want to color print stuff, the computer should be on at the time of printing.

As sites may be removed from google's cache, here's a listing of the companies that were listed

Premier Sponsor
HP

Gold Sponsor
CRN

Silver and Bronze Sponsors
Microlite Corporation
Rasmussen Software Inc.
Equinox Systems
Century
Digi International
TeleVideo
Multi-Tech Systems
InoStor
TelSoft Solutions
Open Systems
Lone Star Software
DTR Business Systems
Maxspeed Corporation
Tarantella
Basis International
Vultus Inc.
SDSI
fp Technologies
TAKgroup
NextAxiom

Now all those sites reference a site, but that has been taken down too...OR HAS IT!!! mwaHAHAHAHA!!

But, yeah, that page is much more informative. Also for those interested on what the diff sponsorships mean[pdf]...

Actually while I had mentioned that Intel had backed out, when I submitted an article last week, HP was still listed as a premier sponsor of SCO's event. I urged Slashdot readers to write Carly Fiorina and let her know how you felt about HP supporting SCO. The point is moot now as the event has already started and HP has already retreated their support somewhat. Still, you might still write and express how you feel about HP having pulled out: a visible reaction from the Linux community this time around might well shape how they deal with SCO in the future.

The HP Proliant DL360 G3 can be fitted with dual power supplies, dual processors, has dual on-board gigabit nic's, up to 8 GB RAM and (only) two hot-plug SCSI Ultra-320 disk bays. I also like the 64MB on-board RAID controller. I've got six and I'd recommend them to anybody.

While SCSI, by itself, isn't necessarily better than IDE, you'd have a hard time finding a hot-pluggable, 15,000 RPM IDE drive.

I don't have anything against the XServe servers, but I don't think Apple is prepared to support enterprise users at the same level as HP, IBM or even Dell.

-Don

When I went to high school, we used TRS-80's. At home, I used an Apple II In college, the net was VAX . Later, I used the product of a company that will go unnamed and unlinked. Recently (and for the past half-decade) I used linux because what I learned was the idea, not the platform. Don't underestimate the curiosity and inquisitiveness of young humans. They are amazing creatures.

Tell me how NASA or moon-landing contributed to the bottom-line of the USA. People need to look at the history to do things differently.

Government and the elite needs to think about coming up with innovative ways along the lines of what H-P is doing with its iCommunity project in the Indian village called Kuppam.

Yeah, I have to admit that I have no direct experience running Linux on 64-way boxes. However, if it's marketing hype then judging by the amount of it that either this is already a reality or it will be soon.

As far as hardware, how about Dolphin? I can think of many bits of hardware available for the OSX that don't either support Windows or Linux as well. Those that I can think of have direct replacements.

Myrinet is nice but improved interconnects are here or are coming -- Linux and Windows will be the first to get them.

First, I think Cringely is great. I mean who else would let us buy video tape of them having a nervous breakdown?

However, I think he's *WAY* off base here as to why Linux is being adopted faster than Apple. If I need a 64-way Linux machine, I can get it. If I need a cluster I can get it (off the shelf). If I want some funky hardware bit, I can get that as well.

My reason for not choosing Apple is vendor lock-in. If I can keep something that allows me to pick and choose parts from a wide variety of sources, I can build solutions that fit the need.

The one place where he might have a point is on the desktop, but I don't see a lot of Linux migration on the desktop. It's still Windows. People want Office even though they hate it.

We are already currently using these in our blade servers. I love these little things, they make maintaining a blade as easy as a full size enterprise server.

our linux license was based on "demand". LOL.

Literally? There was laughter on the teleconference line?

there are two Operating System platforms in the world. Windows and Unix.

Boy, HP's gonna hate to hear that.

Even Linux companies that are pro-Linux are scared that their code "will get sucked into the GPL machine".

Did he even pretend to have any supporting evidence?

IF I EVER MEET YOU, I WILL KICK YOUR ASS!!

Here's an idea, why don't you come and get me.

"There are still people using (the) VMS (operating system) and minicomputers. Just because development stops, doesn't mean people stop using it."

OpenVMS development has stopped? It looks alive and well to me, for now anyway. See here for New Features and Benefits.

So what would I need to pay for my Hewlett Packard Vectra XU 5/90, which I guess is eight or nine years old now, runs SuSE Linux 7.2 with a 2.4 kernel, and has TWO Pentium 54C's running at a meager 133MHz?

I bought a HP10Bii (business calculator). 2 days later, I had to return it to the store because the LCD screen was losing segments. I got a replacement. 2 days after I got the replacement, the same exact problem happened.

That went back to the store, and I now own a TI BA II Plus, and will never buy another HP calculator again.

They even seem to have said that new high-end calculators are coming out on HP's site. I'm curious where the development effort for this is coming from. I don't think the calculator folks from Australia or France survived the great Carly purge.

adam

been there, done that (warning: big jpg). We had a pioneer p2at for outdoor mobility, eye-level conferencing screen, 802.11b teleconferencing (admittedly, we usually ran netmeeting), about 2 years ago. Berkeley had stuff before that. HP labs has done some actually interesting stuff in this area.

I'm really hoping that ms reasearch does have some cool stuff and that this is just a testament to the power of stupid PR drones.

HP labs has something similar to the MS robot.

You have a unique position as a well-known figure in both the Free Software community and the underground rap community; as you are well-known for your involvement in Debian, speeding the corporate adoption of Free Software and protecting the IP of the Free Software community, as well as laying down the phat beats and representin' for the community, I have a few questions to ask of you about these enormous responsibilities.

First, what do you do to try to get your message out to the community? What do you tell the kids who are looking for a positive role model, to show them that it's entirely possible to have legally obtained their bling-bling, and yet still have street cred, even if that street may be Wall Street? Also, have other people in the industries--like ESR or Puff Daddy--accused you of 'selling out', or 'forgetting where you came from'? And did you correctly identify them as playa hatas, who are just jealous of your successful and honest nature?

Don't let them get you down, Bruce; you have shown everyone that it's possible to be an intelligent and responsible white man, and yet still make some mad loot, not give in to the big corporations, (software, recording, or otherwise) score with the ladies (husband *and* father!), and lay down some phat beats in the mean time. You're 100x the role model that Eminem will ever be, and I mean that, from the heart, as one wigga to another.

Unless, of course, Eminem wises up and takes a page or two from your book, and starts researching intellectual property law and free software. In your honor, Bruce--let's all stand up.

If theres no WiFi, what good is a PDA? I want to be able to get online, for free.

Offhand, I would say keeping a calendar, address book, to-do lists, note-taking, e-books, calculator, playing Audible.com content, viewing street maps, playing chess . . . you get the idea.

And besides, what are you complaining about? If you want a Palm w/ Wifi, go get a Tungsten|C.

Or a PocketPC w/ WiFi.

Or an SDIO or CF WiFi card.

Different people have different needs in a PDA. You (and I, actually) want WiFi in a handheld. Other people don't. The new Tungsten|T2 is targeted at the latter.

Don't know much about it, but how about OpenVMS?

HP also has a recycling program which was promoted recently on ScreenSavers. According to the HP representative they had on the show, they do much of the same as what was described in the main article above.

HP also has a recycling program which was promoted recently on ScreenSavers. According to the HP representative they had on the show, they do much of the same as what was described in the main article above.

I just don't see it being economically feasible in North America.

Thats what the government is for. When the raw, slimy greed starts to ooze out of capitalism and corrode the "American Way of Life(tm)", the government should step in and get people's and companies' acts cleaned up.

The government should say "Look, we know its going to cost you, and we know you're going to pass the cost onto the consumer, but you better start a recycling program, and stick to it." They've done the same to stop child labor, to enforce minimum wages, to increase air quality, and so on.

Of course, it doesn't work that way since our government sank into the slimepits, but thats another story. Its clear whose side the current government is on, what with the abolishing of overtime and (perceived?) failures in the punishment of enron and microsoft.

On the other hand, I know that several manufacturers have in fact begun recycling programs. Such as Dell, HP/Compaq, and even Gateway which was the hardest to turn up.

HP has a number of sub $1000 color laser printers. the 1500 look good for home use (no postscript). The 2500L has postscript and is still less than a grand. This model has an EIO slot so an EIO network card can be attached. Or there is the 2500N that is over $1000, but comes with the EIO network card and a secound paper tray.

HP has a number of sub $1000 color laser printers. the 1500 look good for home use (no postscript). The 2500L has postscript and is still less than a grand. This model has an EIO slot so an EIO network card can be attached. Or there is the 2500N that is over $1000, but comes with the EIO network card and a secound paper tray.

HP has a number of sub $1000 color laser printers. the 1500 look good for home use (no postscript). The 2500L has postscript and is still less than a grand. This model has an EIO slot so an EIO network card can be attached. Or there is the 2500N that is over $1000, but comes with the EIO network card and a secound paper tray.

I'd recommend an HP Color LaserJet like a 2500L, due to reliability I've experienced and excellent *nix support.
Most of HP's laserjets have great *nix support, and they're at the top of the scorecard over at linuxprinting.org... But there are some models to avoid, like the 1500L which uses a non-PS/PCL language and is essentially a doorstop outside of windows.

A color laserjet is going to be expensive up-front, but they cost less in the end. I've found that the toner lasts for years with typical home use. An old B&W laserjet lasted me nearly 6 years on one cartridge. I replaced it with a color laserjet, having never had to change the toner.
There's no cleaning print heads all the time (and wasting ink) if you go a few days without printing, and toner doesn't dry up. They print fast, and the ones I've used are quiet too.

Take a look at:- Jean_Tourrilhes howto for useful info on driver status.

You do know that HPUX runs on Itanium today, and has for a long time. Take a look here

HPUX 11i on Itanium

As for LVM, that is also being phased out with VXVM, (the veritas filesystem) being the standard on both PA-RISC and Itanium. Great work, I say

VxVM replacing LVM

You do know that HPUX runs on Itanium today, and has for a long time. Take a look here

HPUX 11i on Itanium

As for LVM, that is also being phased out with VXVM, (the veritas filesystem) being the standard on both PA-RISC and Itanium. Great work, I say

VxVM replacing LVM

Can you provide a reference to that, this is interesting and I don't believe it offhand.

That's understandable... it's pretty counterintuitive. As far as references, I've seen various papers at different times, but the only one I have to hand is this, which isn't ideal, as it requires special hardware support. You might also find some useful information here. Oh, there's also this which shows a conservative, non-relocating GC that is only slightly worse than malloc/free implementations on C and C++ programs that were designed for malloc and free (in the GC version, free simply becomes a NOP). It shouldn't be too surprising that it's worse since it's a case of GC operating within a very tight straightjacket.

In general, the reason GC can be faster is because (a) it can look at the heap more holistically, better optimizing the heap structure for fast allocations and (b) because it doesn't have to free memory on the programmer's schedule, it can defer the work until it can accomplish more at once, with less amortized effort. That's a lot of handwaving, of course. Sorry.

I can't see why a multi-threaded GC would be better either.

It's not that a multi-threaded GC is better, it's that GC is more efficient than malloc/free in a multi-threaded program because free typically has to aquire and release a lock on every invocation (and locking is generally pretty expensive, particularly in SMP environments where you have to execute write barriers), whereas GC can simple take control of the entire heap once in a while (one acquire/release, rather than hundreds or thousands). The GC is more efficient overall because it does its work in larger chunks.

Similarly there are real-time implementation of malloc/free that do provide maximum latency guarantees.

Yep. If you're doing real-time, you need a real-time memory manager, whether it's GC-based or manual. My point is that people often compare non real-time GCs to non real-time malloc/free implementations (which are faster on average than real-time implementations, but have unpredictable worst case behavior) and then declare that GC is unsuitable for real-time.

The best approach might be a malloc/free combined with a GC. The frees are used as simple markers and return instantly. The GC is called when CPU usage is low and does the actual free in one go. You get the best of both world at the cost of increased average memory usage.

Hybrid manual and automatic collection schemes are indeed useful, but not really for the reason you specify. In practice, the work of scanning the stack to discover the rooted objects isn't as bad as you might think, particularly on architectures where pointers have to be aligned, and especially when the GC knows where the pointers in heap resident objects are to be found. The main reasons for a hybrid approach are to (a) manually deallocate very large objects, to defer GC, (b) temporarily suspending GC during a critical section of code that cannot be interruped, which often requires manual deallocation for the period that the GC is turned off and (c) providing specialized memory pools for objects that are allocated and deallocated with extreme frequency and predictability (for much the same reasons you do pooled allocations rather than relying on malloc and free).

That said, a "free" that simply informs the GC that this object is no longer needed could be a good idea. Whether the GC should take this as a hint or a fact is open to debate.

One final comment about GC: it is *not* the savior of lazy programmers who don't want to worry about memory allocation. It makes things a bit easier, sure, but I've had opportunities to debug huge memory leaks in Java programs that were caused simply because the programmer didn't think about nulling a

They work at HP.

HP Recycling Program

http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/globalcitizenship/envir on ment/recycle/index.html

Mod this up. Several posts complain about this problem but nobody looked it up. If you really care about such things, this is an important piece of information when buying hardware. HP's recycling programs lead the industry.

If you have a G4 or whatever you DO have a choice of OS. Either an Apple OS or Linux or Darwin.

If you buy a computer from SGI what OS choice do you have when you order it? For the workstation, it don't look like it
http://www.sgi.com/workstations/fuel/sys_softw are. html
http://www.sgi.com/workstations/tezro/sys_so ftware .html
http://www.sgi.com/workstations/octane2/sys _softwa re.html

Unless you hadn't paved the way and I hadn't the karma to burn I wouldn't bother, but...

If you buy a computer from XXXX what OS choice do you have when you order it?

Insert any pc hw vendor there and you know the answer.

Few examples:
IBM
Dell
HP (uses servlets so the link's not direct, but try customizing a desktop/notbook from there...)
etc...

Maybe its just trying to deliver stuff to another office.

There are many tablet PCs without real keyboards built in.

Yes, it does look rather like one of the things you get with HP's CoolTown. Anyone who wants to play with it can download some of the CoolTown stuff. If you just want to speculate about what you could do with it, then HP has lots of papers to give you some ideas too.

HP CoolTown

The only chip design methodology that still has its original meaning is VLIW. That original meaning is "bankruptcy."

No, it's Intel / HP's EPIC (.pdf) now. I imagine IA-64 will be around for a while :)

Here's a nice page with some history and links. Even lists the real backrupt VLIWs

The only chip design methodology that still has its original meaning is VLIW. That original meaning is "bankruptcy."

No, it's Intel / HP's EPIC (.pdf) now. I imagine IA-64 will be around for a while :)

Here's a nice page with some history and links. Even lists the real backrupt VLIWs

The only chip design methodology that still has its original meaning is VLIW. That original meaning is "bankruptcy."

No, it's Intel / HP's EPIC (.pdf) now. I imagine IA-64 will be around for a while :)

Here's a nice page with some history and links. Even lists the real backrupt VLIWs