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Of course myself I have Linux loaded on my new hp laptop with an amd processor (its ok but its got issues) with star office for word processing, gcc instead of visual studio and sun java sdk

A side note if you look at the support forums on hp's web site you will see a lot discontent. HP only has long distance phone numbers for support and the only thing they tell you to do is to reimage your system with the recovery cd's that come with the systekm no matter what your problem is. I use to really respect hp but lately they have gotten a bit shoddy

HP also just became the first big VAR to base "business" PCs around AMD's processors. HP is busy kicking sand in the faces of the big boys. Then again with Compaq HP isn't no small player itself.

It really is remarkable though: It seems that Microsoft was their own worst enemy, and they've pissed off so many of their large corporate partners that they have very few allies, and absolutely no one trusts them. I doubt that Microsoft is going anywhere for years to come, but these are fascinating twists that would never have been considered but a few years ago.

Most reputable computer companies provide recycling services for their and other manufacturers' equipment.

Try HP Product Recycling Services

In the US, it costs $13-34, including shipping. There are cheaper solutions, but you risk having your monitor end up in somebody's backyard in China. HP at least operates 2 recycling plants in Roseville, CA, and Nashville, TN.

HP offers product end-of-life return programs for HP and other manufacturers' hardware in a number of geographic areas. The terms and availability of these programs vary by geography because of differences in regulatory requirements and local customer demand. Click here for info.

"... Steve Jobs in April 1977 [4] asked Rob Janoff, art director of the advertising company Regis McKenna Advertising, to design a new logo. The advertising company Regis McKenna, wasn't picked by coincidence to design the new logo. This company had helped for example Compaq, America Online, Intel and other computer companies through their early years [5]."

Really? So Apple selected Regis McKenna in April 1977 because of the work they had done for AOL and Compaq?

That's strange because the AOL website says it was founded in 1985.
And the Compaq (now HP) site claims that Compaq was founded in the 1980s.

I know Steve Jobs has a good eye for the future, but I suspect he didn't choose Regis McKenna based on the good work they would do in years to come.

I know this is a cute piece, but the guy who did it just read a couple of Apple biographies and slapped it together with some graphics. It just bugs me when misinformation like this spreads across the Internet.

your right
Nothing good ever came out of garage tinkering, anyhow.

In spite of the fact that slashdot's editors got it completely wrong and this robot doesn't spray anything but just sends signals to the air conditioning system, this development is just one in a flood of recent advances in the robot field that will ultimately create the real-world equivalent of pop-up ads.

The press release from HP is a bit more clear.

Or you can Email Carly.

Not sure if it's a bit bucket or not, but try Carly: HP Executive Team: Carly email

I am quite disappointed with HP's recent conduct with two issues related to the DMCA. I am in a senior enough position as a UNIX administrator that I have significant impact in how a multi-million dollar IT budget is spent. HP's invocation of the DMCA reduces my trust in HP as a vendor of secure and reliable technology. Therefore I am less inclined now than I ever have been in the past to purchase HP products.

The first issue is HP's request that Bruce Parens not present his findings on DVD copyright controls. If he is acting on his own behalf, and includes a disclaimer that this is a separate issue from what he does under the employment of HP, he should be allowed to go forth. If he is presenting HP intellectual property, HP has the right and responsibility to protect itself. This, however, does not seem to be the case.

The more disturbing issue is with regards to the handling of SnoSoft's publication of root exploits to the Tru64 operating system. As a UNIX administrator, I am responsible for researching technologies that I will put into production. Many times, these products are used to protect the intellectual property, stability, or other things that are of great importance to my employer's success and my career. If security researchers cannot force many of the bugs out in the open before I evaluate products, I have much more work on my hands. Furthermore, if I find a bug that I know can be used to compromise my system, without the ability to publicly discuss and disclose the bug, I may be unable to get a fix from the vendor or a home-grown workaround. If I am at the complete mercy of my vendors' good will, I fear that I will have a system that lacks stability and security.

Please reconsider your decision to use the Digital Millenium Copyright Act to stifle free speech. Once you come to the realization that the DMCA is not a law that is useful for HP, please put your lobbying efforts into repealing it and push for funding to enforce pre-DMCA laws that already provide more than adequate protections on copyright and other intellectual property issues.

I do not speak for my employer. Please remember, however, that my employer trusts me to make decisions that are in the employer's best interest. Your actions suggest that the purchase of HP products is in the best interest of no employer that I would work for.

Email their president and CEO from this page!

Tell her in NICE non flaming tones why you feel what they are doing is wrong. Explain that this kind of action makes you unwilling to buy any more products from them.

Lenstra gave a talk on the subject at the HP Research Labs Colloquium last July:

http://www.hpl.hp.com/infotheory/lenstra071101.htm

Abstract:
Elliptic curves form one of the hottest topics in arithmetic algebraic geometry. Applications of elliptic curves range from a proof of Fermat's Last Theorem to the design of secure cryptosystems. In the lecture we present, as a novel application of elliptic curves, a mathematical analysis of Escher's lithograph `Print Gallery'.

For most applications, it just makes better sense to avoid these errors altogether by using a good garbage collector.

An excellent implementation is the Boehm-Demers-Weiser (commonly referred to as just "Boehm gc") conservative gc. It can be used for C/C++, and is highly portable. It's a real-time, non-compacting (so you still get heap fragmentation like managing memory by hand, but the collection time is shorter and it's more portable), and uses a conservative mark-sweep algorithm (briefly, treats anything that looks like a pointer as a pointer, to avoid costly checks or increase portability in the case of C/C++.)

For a moderately large amount of garbage, the incremental collection pauses take less than about 5-10 milliseconds (hence why it's a real-time collector) on a PIII-500, the algorithm scales fairly well, and it's suitable for all but the most time-critical (anything video related) or memory-thrashing (I really don't know of any app that needs to be) programs. GC will speed up development time tremendously, and can eliminate segmentation faults and memory leaks for most programs. I really don't understand why more projects don't use it.

That being said, Valgrind does seem extremely useful for projects that do need to allocate memory manually. It looks very convenient to use, and the thoroughness of the checks is impressive. The implementation does seem a little uncomfortable to me - it's certainly a lot of effort to write a whole virtual machine just for the task! The portability prospects aren't appealing either.

For most applications, it just makes better sense to avoid these errors altogether by using a good garbage collector.

An excellent implementation is the Boehm-Demers-Weiser (commonly referred to as just "Boehm gc") conservative gc. It can be used for C/C++, and is highly portable. It's a real-time, non-compacting (so you still get heap fragmentation like managing memory by hand, but the collection time is shorter and it's more portable), and uses a conservative mark-sweep algorithm (briefly, treats anything that looks like a pointer as a pointer, to avoid costly checks or increase portability in the case of C/C++.)

For a moderately large amount of garbage, the incremental collection pauses take less than about 5-10 milliseconds (hence why it's a real-time collector) on a PIII-500, the algorithm scales fairly well, and it's suitable for all but the most time-critical (anything video related) or memory-thrashing (I really don't know of any app that needs to be) programs. GC will speed up development time tremendously, and can eliminate segmentation faults and memory leaks for most programs. I really don't understand why more projects don't use it.

That being said, Valgrind does seem extremely useful for projects that do need to allocate memory manually. It looks very convenient to use, and the thoroughness of the checks is impressive. The implementation does seem a little uncomfortable to me - it's certainly a lot of effort to write a whole virtual machine just for the task! The portability prospects aren't appealing either.

And contrary to what you may think, it's qiute easy to use:

variable = new (GC) my_class;

Or even easier: make your classes derived from gc.

In C, you just replace malloc.

And I have found that there is no slowdown wen using a garbage collector. It's nice, and keeps the code clean. Try it someday.

HP has since discontinued the product and support for it, either due to cost or lack of interest. It was neat, but I don't care for printouts, I prefer to browse my favorite sites live. Maybe the old CEO's that have their secretaries print out their email for them would have liked HP PrintSmart.

So...

He's not afraid of The Man, but he IS afraid of The Woman...

Carleton S. (Carly) Fiorina is Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Hewlett-Packard. Click the link to tell her what you think.

Carleton S. (Carly) Fiorina is Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Hewlett-Packard. Click the link to tell her what you think.

Where the Itanium (and, I'm assuming, the Opteron/64-bit Athlon) really matter is in in large database and high-end workstation solutions. Basically, anything that needs more than 4GB of RAM. In these uses, it's not actually the processor speed that is needed, it's the RAM.

Hewlett Packard chooses Red Hat (2002-06-05).

Check this out for some more info.

The short of it is a description of 802.11-a. The main page contains tons of info to get you started working on your own drivers -- or there may be some gems in there too (I.e. identifying a 5 GHz card or driver that works with your system).


-Turkey

Check this out for some more info.

The short of it is a description of 802.11-a. The main page contains tons of info to get you started working on your own drivers -- or there may be some gems in there too (I.e. identifying a 5 GHz card or driver that works with your system).


-Turkey

Wow. And here I've been building my own depots all this time.

http://www.software.hp.com/cgi-bin/swdepot_parser. cgi/cgi/displayProductInfo.pl?productNumber=T1471A A

Thanks for the tip, Marx!

to bad that its not default on EVERY **nix

It's not there yet but it's heading that way. Of the platforms I work with regularly:

Redhat have shipped OpenSSH since 7.0
Sun ships a modified OpenSSH with Solaris 9.
IBM ship OpenSSH on the AIX5 bonus pack CD (also downloadable)
HP provide a native OpenSSH package for HP-UX 11+

They're all native packages and they're all supported.

When I built mine, I figure that I about made wages, IF I compared the cost of the box I built to the cost of a similar machine, ready-made. The key word here is similar! Dell doesn't make non-intel machines, and I wanted athlon, both for the floatingpoint and for general bang-for-the-buck. I wanted to spend lots on ram, and little on cpu. Hard to get what you want with Dell; they sell you what THEY want. I put in ram that runs reliably with two waitstates, and the motherboard lets me run it that way. Can't get that from Dell.

Finding similar computers isn't easy, but look here, and here. HP's stuff is close, but uses pentium 4, which I don't like. The similar products don't start at $499, or even $899. I figured that a year ago, when I spent $800 building mine, it would have cost about $1100 to buy something comparable from one of the suppliers of linux workstations (with no monitor). That's roughly $300 savings. That came partly because I was able to get exactly what I wanted, partly because I took advantage of specials and partly because I already had a really nice monitor, keyboard, mouse, et cetera. That $300 or so paid for about 15 hours of shopping, ordering, assembling and installing. I'd bill my time considerably higher than that, but this was fun, so it was ok.

I thought HP used debian on its servers? Didn't we see recently that they were going to use Debian as their main flavour of GNU/Linux?

Or was HP just playing with Redhat using Debian and SuSE (United Linux?) as bargining chips?

PogoLinux

HP

Nixit

HP/Compaq

and now Walmart.

There are probably others too.

Have a look here if you don't believe me - this means you have to fork out $495 (yes, you read that right) for Red Hat Linux on an HP Itanium box compared to nothing extra for XP, HP-UX or indeed other Linuxes (Mandrake, Debian and SuSE all seem to have ISOs for Itanium available).

Surely HP must now resume shipping Red Hat Linux with their Itanium boxes [they did used to ship RH with the boxes until quite recently] ? Or is $495 considered peanuts compared to the cost of the boxes ?

I thought HP had announced that they were focusing on Debian?

HP.com and Bruce Perens support this.

Does this signal a shift? Will HP now contribute to Red Hat at Debians' expense?

rho

Dreamworks are also using HP hardware and Linux for their animation - HP released this a few days ago.. Info on it Here

~slak

This is taken from the document Real-time Stereo Vision for Real-world object tracking:
<clip>
The DeepSea chip is hardware implementation of the census correspondence algorithm invented by Tyzx staff... The algorithm's key concept is transforming a pixel's numeric absolute intensity value into a bit string that represents the pixel's brightness relative ot it's neighboring pixels. For each pixel, The DeepSea chip examines the pixels surrounding area called a neighborhood. A typical neighborhood is 7x7 pixels centered on the subject pixel. Comparing a subject pixel's intensity to its neighbours, the chip produces a relative intensity map (show in the document, page 8).
.... the DeepSea chip may not be able to find a valid match for every pixel in the image. Large unformity lit areas of scene may have pixels of identical intensity; for pixels in such area, no single match can be found. Pixels that correspond to an object that is invisible to one imager but the other also do not have matching pixels.
... Once the matching process is complete, the range of each pixel can be calucated using the horizontal disparity of the matching pixels, the focal lenghts of the lenses and the distance between them. The DeepSea chip designates the range or anormalous pixels as invalid.
</clip>
(typos are mine) :)) See also a HP document covering partly the same matter.

Some programmable logic technologies handle wiring with a uniform sea of logic gates connected by fuses, and you create a particular logic circuit by selectively blowing fuses. The HP/UCLA rotaxane work involves essentially the same idea, using molecular switches at the intersections of a 2D grid of molecular wires. In addition to some discussion here on Slashdot, there is more at Nanodot, and a fairly extended discussion on sci.nanotech.

Solving the problem of routing specific wires to specific gates, and doing it in a way that's reliably manufacturable in mole quantities, will pretty much relegate today's foundries to niche markets. But that's probably a long way off, numerous problems to solve to get there. Interesting times ahead.

Of course, HP's garage invention consisted of

"HP's first product -- the resistance-capacity audio oscillator (HP 200A), an electronic instrument used to test sound equipment.

The oscillator uses an incandescent bulb as part of its wiring scheme to provide variable resistance, a breakthrough in oscillator design....The HP Model 200A is so named `because we thought the name would make us look like we'd been around for awhile,' says Dave later."

from HP's history page.

Somehow, I don't think the NY Times ran a story about this, or that many people thought this was extraordinarily "cool."

Oh so yay! We finally find out who this mysterous Anonymous Coward is after all these years!

One option used by many companies is to compartmentalize the data that needs to be secured. HP sells VirtualVault, or you could brew your own by running a chroot jail, or more completely by running a seperate virtual machine like User Mode Linux.

Good point, The bios vendors themselves are not the best providers of documentation... ( AMI for one ).. However some computer manufacturers do document changes:

For example:

IBM
http://www-1.ibm.com/support/manager.wss?rs=0&rt=0 &org=psg&doc=MIGR-41214

COMPAQ
http://www.compaq.com/support/files/server/us/down load/14220.html

HP
http://h20004.www2.hp.com/keeper_rnotes/bsdmatrix/ matrix50451.html

INTEL
http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/ad/ad_bios.ht m
ftp://download.intel.com/design/motherbd/ad/P04-00 10d.pdf

As far as the bridge offer goes, I'll pass.

Turbyne

A lot of the cost of those cartridges seems to be markup at the HP level...

supplies for deskjet 1120c (just to pick a random inkjet).

Not only are the OEM cartridges that come with the printers are half full. So are most of the refill cartridges people buy.

See this link for the 'refil' cartridge at 34 bucks.

See this link for the 'large' cartridge at a 'bargain' 55 bucks.

They're the same size.

-- rob

Not only are the OEM cartridges that come with the printers are half full. So are most of the refill cartridges people buy.

See this link for the 'refil' cartridge at 34 bucks.

See this link for the 'large' cartridge at a 'bargain' 55 bucks.

They're the same size.

-- rob

Step one: cut & paste your fav descrambler into MS Wordpad.

Step two: select a dark font (like Arial Rounded Bold) and crank the point down to 2.

Step three: use the office's HP laser printer to produce legible copies.

Step four: trim down the output and tape it to a Sharpie Marker(tm).

Step five: submit a memo to the RIAA and the DVDCCA accusing Microsoft, HP (with a 'Q'), Fiskars, and 3M of producing copyright infringement devices -- with your new marker!!

--Logan

I really don't understand why every UNIX distribution isn't making these moves.

Some vendors started well before Sun.

IBM comes to mind. What do you think the L in AIX 5L stands for? HP has a different take but an interesting one for HP-UX 11i. Don't forget the company formerly known as SCO has Open Unix with LKP. Honestly I am sure Linux fits in with just about every other Unix vendor these days but you can do your own homework.

You might want to ease up on your Linux horse. I love the OS and spend most of my time there at home but it still has a ways to go before being truly competitive with Unix on the high end. HA clustering, Failover, Common Criteria certification, and widespread SAN vendor support are still lagging.

To pick on just one aspect of your RH tools + Solaris kernel theory, imagine adding heartbeat support to all those tools. Sure it's HA & Linux growing by leaps and bounds but it will take time.

Don't even get me started about CC.

We, that is two of us, have been doing this since 1997. Our site Internet Technical Documentation Archive (ITDA) houses a lot of freely available Field Service Manuals.

We started with borrowing local scanning resources and manually page flipping. That's one page per every 5-6mins! Then we bought our first LPT scanner and it was a little faster but ate pages....

...ack depends on what you want to do. Like most people say do you want to totally destroy your books? How much do you want to spend? Are you ever going to use those physical books again?

If its just low cost and personal copy with reasonable quality and you have LOTS of time then.... just grab a copy of OmniPage OCR v11, a HP ADF scanner [ hp scanjet 5490cxi (C9863A)], a copy of Adobe Acrobat and get a professional company to despine your books.

We spent a total of $800 on software/hardware to do this. We spend, on average, about 50 - 200 hours per book to process it - thats scanning, OCR, OCR proofing and format rework and then final PDF output.. Some of the books we're doing I have given to students to work on. They'll do it for next to nothing ;-)

Its possible to outsource this to companies to do this work for you. For example Crowley do this and they also handle large documents. You have to be aware of how they are going to process your book and the copyright problems. However, as someone said, some don't care about copyright and some do (eg Kinkos). Again this comes down to do you care about the books and how much you wanna pay for a digital copy...

In our case we don't make money off this site so we can't afford to out-source. So our biggest problem now is how we are going to get the over-size PDP-11 documents into PDF. The Minolta PS7000 looks like the beast we need but its way too expensive for a non-profit. We'll probably be out-sourcing and eating the costs.

My suggestion is to either go the HP scanner+Omni+Adobe PDF route OR out-source it if you can afford. At least with the out-source option you get to keep your books intact.

ITDA Team

This details what they are and are not getting ride of. It looks like most of what is staying is all going to be under the HP name as well. Very little Compaq left. They are also getting rid of True64 and integrating the good parts of it, or what they think are good, into HP-UX.

This is from HP and to their customers / consumers so if you use any Compaq / HP stuff it is worth a read.

The HP website has a Product Roadmap in its press releases.

It makes a quite nice read, especially if you're a heavy Compaq server site.

Smart Handhelds

Decision: The Compaq iPAQ(TM) Pocket PC, re-named the HP iPAQ Pocket PC, will be our smart handheld platform. The best of the current HP Jornada technology will be engineered into the platform. Jornada products will be phased out of the market in 2002.

HP will continue to innovate in wireless, mobility and voice technology. HP also will offer the iPAQ Blackberry device for end-to-end wireless e-mail solutions, under the HP brand.

So evidently we're going to see IPaq's emerging with some of the good Jornada technology integrated. Lets hope its well done, rather than shoehorned in.

Smart Handhelds Decision:

The Compaq iPAQ(TM) Pocket PC, re-named the HP iPAQ Pocket PC, will be our smart handheld platform. The best of the current HP Jornada technology will be engineered into the platform. Jornada products will be phased out of the market in 2002. HP will continue to innovate in wireless, mobility and voice technology. HP also will offer the iPAQ Blackberry device for end-to-end wireless e-mail solutions, under the HP brand.