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Re:N900, x11vnc, X, etc.
Oops, many applications apparently don't run correctly over an X connection. sbrsh is just a convenient tool for running applications on the N900 while using the desktop's filesystem.
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Re:Nokia n810
Word on the Net is that the 16GB cards do work, even though Nokia hasn't updated their Web site to mention them. See for example Internet Tablet Talk for confirmation.
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Re:I also have all three and prefer the 770
There's an option for "Device Stays Lit" that can be set to either "when charging" or "never"... but it still turns on the display, only to block almost all of the screen as black and show the text "charging" along with an animated icon. Apparently, this can even cause it to lose power while attempting to charge by USB.
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Re:Hurm.
I am interested in your opinions about reiserfs on sd cards but I really am struggling to find any article that states its bad for sd cards. Can you find a reliable source to back up your negative vibe because so far I haven't found anything to backup your view point.
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=81635
"After some research I don't think ext2 is a good choice for SD card partition Type. And ext3 is catastrophic. Ext2 tends to wear off the card with great speed, even with SD cards automatic anti-wear off protections.
Google on the topic and you will see it for yourself. Also Ext2 isn't very optimized for lots of small files. Neither in speed, nor size.ReiserFS should be far better choice. It has a big edge over ext in terms of small files handling (the devs behind reiser stress quiet often on that). It is much more self repairing (I got lots of errors when running e2fsck on the SD card from time to time). It handles wearing off much better.
The only bottleneck I can think of now is the 32MB used for metadata. That's it. Even on empty filesystem you have 32MB used with metadata. On the other hand with 2GB cards costing $20 32MB is not that much."
My primary use for SD Cards is data and mostly its reading from a card rather than writing. I'm also prepared for a card to fail, and mostly use the SD Cards as a local copy of data I want on my system at a particular time. In practice so far I've not had an SD Card fail so as to become unusable, Although I have lost partitions under ext2 or 3 reformatting them has always worked.
The life span of cards seems to be unclear but 5 - 10 years seems to be what the manufacturers are saying.
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Re:You wonder?
Someone on the Nokia tablettalk forums rigged up a camera that downloads pictures straight to his n810 tablet. I took it a step further and made it Bluetooth tether to my phone and SCP the file to my home server. You can destroy the camera, but that upload is safe and sound. Even if it's in the process of being transmitted, it's already been copied to the n810. You could be really paranoid and copy it AGAIN to your phone via Bluetooth. That way, they might see the cable going to your n810 and assume it's part of the deal, but it's still been transmitted to your phone's SD card, safely in your pocket. Original post on tablettalk forums here: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13868&highlight=camera How's that for geeking out over it?
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Re:Nokia n810 grandcentral and gizmo5
It sounds like your friend was calling through gizmo and not grandcentral. I did this on accident initially when I set up gizmo and grandcentral. In order to call out through grandcentral instead, you need to log into your account at the grandcentral webpage, or the mobile version of their webpage and dial from your address book. There is currently a maemo application in the works here that will allow you to dial your grandcentral contacts without opening your browser.
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Re:Nokia N810
Can you compile your own kernel?
Very probably, but I don't know the details. You can find more info at the Maemo site.
What kind of documentation do they have on their APIs?
It runs an X server. I think most apps use (a variant of?) the GTK library. Again, check the Maemo site. I don't know about the IRC channel, but there is an active forum site.
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Re:Nokia N810 and cheap Flash
See here for N810 host mode information. http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14092
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N810Agreed. I picked up a N810 (and a 4gb miniSD card) a few weeks ago, and it hasn't been more than a couple meters from me since. While there aren't a whole lot of features out of the box, the collection of easily installable applications(the included package manger is a frontend for dpkg, you can use apt from the command line if you prefer) more than make up for it. I was looking pretty seriously at an iPod touch (not an iPhone, I don't like paying carriers for the privilege of using my gadgets, my simple cellphone is prepaid), and decided I'd prefer a device that I could use how I saw fit, as opposed to how apple decided I should. A few of the features that distinguish it:
- The included microb browser uses the same version of the gecko engine as the current Firefox3 builds, and renders anything Firefox will (except for a few sites that check user agents) just like on a desktop. It even has real Flash9 support for games and flash video.
- In the same vein, theres a complete port of pidgin for all your instant messaging needs
- The memory mounts as mass storage when plugged into a computer via microUSB (no fussy proprietary connector, no horrible manager software)
- The USB port is OTG compliant, you can connect accessories (storage devices, keyboards, etc.) with an appropriate cable.
- You can set up SSH on it; both client and server. That means SFTP/SSHFS to push/pull files from the device.
- For media playback, while there is a simple built-in player, I've come to love Canola2, which has all the bells and whistles, and uses mplayer as a backend for broad format support.
- Theres a great owners community at Internet Tablet Talk
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Re:n810 is amazingDoes anyone have any information about a Windows based development toolchain? I've not looked into it myself, but the standard approach is to run the linux-based SDK using VMWare.
http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/platforms/maemo/index.html#sdks_and_tools
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Re:I call BS
Having done some quick googling...
Gimp runs on the N800, tho it's quite short of ram:
http://net9.blogspot.com/2007/04/gimp-running-on-n800.html
I couldnt find openoffice for it, tho there is aparrently a non maemo specific version for linux/arm available in debian repositories.. There is a version of abiword for the n800 tho, as well as gnumeric.
gnumeric -> http://www.mail-archive.com/maemo-users@maemo.org/msg04128.html
abiword -> http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5423
Don't think anyone has ported VLC, but there is a port of mplayer which pretty much uses the same codecs. I always used mplayer on linux anyway.
I ported a few of my own programs (mostly console based) very easily, so i can't imagine other apps would be especially hard. The only real problem is the hardware resources available.
The newer OS2008 from nokia apparently uses a firefox based browser too.
What other desktop linux apps are you after?
Some apps are too heavy for the hardware, that's not linux's fault but rather the individual apps and the hardware. A program designed for a supercomputer with a terabyte of ram won't work very well on even a high end gaming pc. -
Bluetooth Headphones with n800
You can use kagu music player that works with a2dp bluetooth audio. I don't know about headsets (for voip), haven't really been too interested in that, although I know that it's coming. Sound quality is very good with a2dp, and avrcp (remote control) works fairly well with kagu too.
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Re:What's the Selling Point?
I believe that the n800 would do strongly in your rubric (applications, dev environment, syncing, interface and phone - voip). I believe that it can even do exchange (at least the 770 did through third-party software). As far as the dev environment, applications, etc check this out. It's not a phone, but it does do VOIP, as well as hundreds of other useful (and not so useful) things.
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Better Alternative
Sell your iPhone and buy the Nokia N800.
-It has official linux support, developed by Maemo (Which is part of Ubuntu's OE Development Team)
-xterm is just a apt-get away
-Has the potential to run every single linux software available
-Higher screen resolution than the iPhone
-Buy a Thinkoutside bluetooth keyboard and you'll have a uber cool laptop everywhere you go
Of course, there are ways in which iPhone is way better. I definitely can't say the N800 has better UI, or it has a faster processor and nicer design. But I think for the tech-savvy out there, iPhone is honestly too restrictive and not hacker-friendly enough.
Do yourself a favour, ead up more on the N800 at http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=38 632 and http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/ -
Be Careful if you buy one of theseThe first batch of N800's have a known problem where after a few weeks of use, the right side of the device (left side if you're looking at it) stops responding to touch or can't be calibrated accurately. Since there is no way other than the touchscreen to access many of the device's functions, you then have to send it in for repairs.
Nokia will not reimburse you for the shipping cost, and has a very broken tracking mechanism. As several users at the Internet Table Talk forum have documented, this means that your $400 device goes back to Nokia, and you don't know when/if you'll get it back.
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Re:Already done, but better
Palm Trio, Motorola Q, etc.... And you don't have to be near a free/open WiFi spot.
Or get a XV6700/PPC6700/etc (all HTC Apache variants) and get WiFi
...and camera...to boot. I got mine a month ago and, while it took a bit of getting used to, its pretty damn near a complete communicator. I think it might even give Spock gadget envy. (Tho it does run WinMobile).I nearly picked up the 770, but wo/ a camera or phone, it just doesn't seem worth the $350 (tho the various announcements wrt hooking up with Google Talk were intriguing). FWIW, my local COMPUSA does have 770's in stock (and the last email flyer I got last Sunday indicates they're still selling 'me for $350)
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Re:This thing is actually quite nice..
What *is* clear is that you don't have a 770 because nearly every comment you made about the 770 is false.
You can play videos at CIF.
http://www.internettablettalk.com/content/view/156 /2/
You can use the 770 like a speaker phone quite nicely with the Gizmo software.
It doesn't have a lot of built in memory but it is sufficient. You can also expand the flash memory via the RS-MMC port.
You can also connect it to a specially powered USB hub and connect USB media/peripherals not to mention Bluetooth peripherals.
But the real beauty of the 770 is that the platform is open and Nokia encourages people to hack away on it. They *want* people to customize it and make new apps for it and help devs along with a development platform for your PC (Scratchbox) and a forge-based software repository (garage.maemo.org).
These are things I don't see Sony doing any time soon and this that add real value and lifetime to the 770. -
this might lead somewhere
The goal here is not just being able to run decade-old apps from the Newton. It is extending what was so good about the Newton to new platforms. No pda has yet to come close to the best features of the Newton. Furthermore, palm os has stagnated, and there are lots of gadgets, from cell phones to "internet tablets" appearing that run on linux that are crying out for better user interfaces (especially decent handwriting recognition). Check out http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthre
a d.php?p=7287#post7287 over on the Nokia 770 forum as an example of how this might play out. -
Nokia/Maemo release improvements
For everyone considering buying the 770: Nokia has released new versions already (not the 2006 version as described on their homepage with VOIP).
They release about every two months and the software improves notably.
See for more info: InternetTableTalk Forum: 51-13 now available
Latest version is: 3.2005.51-13 (December 30, 2005) -
Re:So much to do!
I saw that the other day, Believe it or not I do check out http://www.internettablettalk.com/ I did think it was funny, oh and I am going to take a pic of me using the nokia 770... Maybe at work..
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Re:out of memory....a lot
Install the latest firmware to start. Following that, consider setting up a swap
:)
My experience with upgrading:
http://thoughtfix.blogspot.com/2006/01/update-and- upgrade-plus-gps-wishes.html
A link to setting up a swap (not for noobs)
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost. php?p=4013&postcount=13
Hope that helps. -
A review from a Nokia 770 Owner
I was a day 1 zaurus owner and this is exactly what the Zaurus should have been but was not. Out of the box, you pop in the included 64meg memory card, turn it on, and boom right in front of my face is my web browser, my RSS reader and e-mail. Best of all since its Linux they support all the secure e-mail connections (tls, ssl, imaps everything) so I don't have to compromise my security while using it. It has a huge library for something that has only been out for a short while. It's package management is 100x better than the zauruses! I jump on WIFI or Bluetooth to my phone to the internet, browse to the maemo.org site, click a package and it asks to open it in the package manager! It uses Opera 8 with Flash support. Plays full screen videos just fine, and let me tell you the screen is incredibly bright and detailed!
Its a 800x480 display, just beautiful! Not to mention the browser is a full one! No PDA versions of web pages, no side scrolling. You can zoom in, browse history and book marks it works!
I installed very easily mind you, GAIM for IM, Doom a bunch of other little games, an xterm, they have SSH for it, and the library is growing!
Drawbacks:
Occasionally, when using it not as intended, say using the not-ready or polished GAIM, or lets say loading up 20 web browsers, with your rss feeder in the background its going to run out of memory. This is an internet tablet, it has RSS feeder, web and e-mail and its all fully featured and ready to go out of the box. If you use it as intended it works and thats that!
Contrary to any reviews I have NEVER encountered any wifi flakyness or bluetooth crazyness. I have used it every day for about a week now, and it is just SOLID. Its design is slick as snot! check out the screen shots below, and check out nokias own site for the 770, its silver metal case and its included pouch is just awsome.
and of course, it runs linux! all my Ipaq and palm friends are very jealous!
check out http://maemo.org/ for more info.
For screenshots: http://maemo.org/screenshots.html
Third party applications you can install at the click of a button: http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationCatalog
Another Nokia 770 site: http://www.internettablettalk.com/ -
Nokia 770
And it looks like they haven't learned from it given the way the product launch for the Linux based Nokia 770 Internet tablet is going.
Supposedly on sale in Early November the date of shipping has now been put back to sometime in January. Nokia are however still taking orders (and not filling any). No official work has come from them apart from the constant date changes on their web site and conflicting stories from the call center staff.
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Nice
I've been wanting something like this so I can use the X Windows System like it was designed. http://www.nomachine.com/documentation/html/intr-
t echnology.html
If it is capable of being docked, or accept a keyboard+monitor being attached, then it is perfect for me.
From what I've read about it http://www.internettablettalk.com/content/view/98/ 37/ it seems to be just as customizable as any GNU/Linux/X system. -
Re:two days?
Check Internet Tablet Talk or the Nokia 770 Blog. The device has been out in Europe for a few weeks, and in the hands of developers for several months. There are reviews out there.