Domain: internic.net
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Comments · 179
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Re:Some proof
"Good point, now I will check a second secret domain to prove or disprove the "ass-tunnel" hypothesis" "
% whois ass-tunnels.com
Whois Server Version 2.0
Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net/
for detailed information.
No match for "ASS-TUNNELS.COM".
Whois Server Version 2.0
Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net/
for detailed information.
No match for "ASS-TUNNEL.COM" -
direct lookup
You can directly lookup whois information at the internic's lookup page, or use the unix whois command or a Windows utility like Cyberkit to discover whether or not a domain has been registered without leaking your interest to someone who might try to grab it first.
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here is their whois data
what do you expect from a godaddy (m$ owned) site?
Whois Server Version 2.0
Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net/
for detailed information.
Domain Name: WHYFIREFOXISBLOCKED.COM
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com/
Name Server: NS1.FAMILYNETHOME.COM
Name Server: NS2.FAMILYNETHOME.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 06-aug-2007
Creation Date: 06-aug-2007
Expiration Date: 06-aug-2008 -
Google, now. Probably doubleclick, previously
"slashdot.org. Who is this m1.2mdn.net? Some advertising company I can't identify."
You mean...Google?
themusicgod1@chthulhu:~$ whois 2mdn.net
Whois Server Version 2.0
Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.
Domain Name: 2MDN.NET
Registrar: REGISTER.COM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.register.com
Referral URL: http://www.register.com/
Name Server: NS1.DOUBLECLICK.NET
Name Server: NS2.DOUBLECLICK.NET
Name Server: NS3.DOUBLECLICK.NET
Name Server: NS4.DOUBLECLICK.NET
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 02-may-2005
Creation Date: 02-may-2005
Expiration Date: 02-may-2007
Last update of whois database: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:07:47 UTC
NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the
registrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry is
currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration
date of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoring
registrar. Users may consult the sponsoring registrar's Whois database to
view the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration.
Registrant:
DoubleClick Inc
Host Master
111 Eighth Avenue 10th Floor
New York, NY 10011
US
Email: hostmaster@doubleclick.net
Registrar Name....: REGISTER.COM, INC.
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: www.register.com
Domain Name: 2mdn.net
Created on..............: Mon, May 02, 2005
Expires on..............: Wed, May 02, 2007
Record last updated on..: Mon, May 02, 2005
Administrative Contact:
DoubleClick Inc
Host Master
111 Eighth Avenue 10th Floor
New York, NY 10011
US
Phone: 1--2126557699
Email: hostmaster@doubleclick.net
Technical Contact:
DoubleClick Inc
DNS Tech
111 Eighth Avenue 10th Floor
New York, NY 10011
US
Phone: 1--2126557699
Email: dnstech@doubleclick.net
DNS Servers:
ns3.doubleclick.net
ns1.doubleclick.net
ns2.doubleclick.net
ns4.doubleclick.net
Visit AboutUs.org for more information about 2mdn.net -
DreamHost.com domain features?
DreamHost.com domain names are $9.95/year. However, apparently it is not possible to see the domain features unless you are a customer.
Thanks for the link to the InterNIC list of all domain registrars.
000domains.com domains are $13.50 per year, with a list of no-extra-cost features. -
Registars
There's a list of registars at http://www.internic.net/alpha.html if you'd really like to compare. Myself, I tranferred a domain away from GoDaddy, and didn't have any particular problems (I transferred partly because I could get a better deal elsewhere, and partly because I don't want my domains all over the place). I currently use DreamHost and 000Domains, both of which seem decent enough.
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Re:and nobody's doing anything.....why?
What are the penalties for faking WhoIs info
you lose the domain
http://www.internic.net/cgi/rpt_whois/rpt.cgi -
Domain names taken
In case anyone was wondering, eightplanets.com and eightplanets.org are already taken.
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Domain names taken
In case anyone was wondering, eightplanets.com and eightplanets.org are already taken.
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1 of 1399I'm the owner of one of those 1399 blocked domains. I assure you all the details in the original article are correct. I, my domain, e-mail, website and anything else owned by me has absolutely nothing to do with those 2 spam activities GoDaddy refers to. And I'm pretty sure the other 1398 domains has nothing to do with spam either.
For those who don't get it, I repeat: Majordomo is not "an underground spam network in the anarchist country". If you think this way, take your nose out of computer and travel the world, it's much different from what you think. Majordomo is a legal and respectable company (yes, it's reselling GoDaddy's services). On my part I'm an independent Mac shareware developer. Thanks Majordomo, now these domains are unblocked.
GoDaddy's actions look like, feel like, smell like, and in fact ARE real extortion. It's absolutely clear, this is one of their ways to earn money. This time they went too far, probably thinking that if Russia is far abroad, such actions won't be noticed. I would recommend to everyone never have any business with GoDaddy, and those who already use it as a registrar, switch immediately.
Did I get any response to my e-mail to GoDaddy? No. Did I get any excuses for their actions? No. Will I get a reimbursement for the loss of profits? No. Anyone who had the same problems with them, send a report at internic and FBI websites, and I hope that scum will be shutdown.
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Re:GoDaddy did this to us, too!
Here, try this neat ICANN Registrar Complaint form. I can't say whether it's useful or not, but it couldn't hurt to fill it out.
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Re:I'm pretty certain...
It certainly appears legit, here's the registrar information:
Whois Server Version 1.3
Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net/
for detailed information.
Domain Name: VONAGEIPO.COM
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com/
Name Server: DNS1-NYC.VONAGE.NET
Name Server: AUTH00.KEWR0.S.VONAGENETWORKS.NET
Name Server: AUTH01.KEWR0.S.VONAGENETWORKS.NET
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Updated Date: 08-may-2006
Creation Date: 25-apr-2005
Expiration Date: 25-apr-2012 -
Re:OMGLOL!!!! bistbuy was slashdotted!!!
The Post claims, "Google Inc., which runs the largest ad network on the Internet, is making millions of dollars a year by filling otherwise unused Web sites with ads. In many instances, these ad-filled pages appear when users mistype an Internet address, such as 'BistBuy.com.'"
I also couldn't open bistbuy.com --
Here's what searching whois for bistbuy.com gave me
Whois Server Version 1.3
Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net/
for detailed information.
Domain Name: BISTBUY.COM
Registrar: DOMAINDOORMAN, LLC
Whois Server: whois.domaindoorman.com
Referral URL: http://www.domaindoorman.com/
Name Server: NS1.12GF6.COM
Name Server: NS2.12GF6.COM
Name Server: NS3.12GF6.COM
Status: REDEMPTIONPERIOD
Updated Date: 29-apr-2006
Creation Date: 22-nov-2005
Expiration Date: 22-nov-2006
Nothing appears to link bistbuy.com (if it ever was a valid destination) to Google.
I'm not convinced yet that this story is a smear job, but very little of their story appears to check out. -
To the Mayor of Tuttle, OK: #2
"I only got help after threatening to contact the FBI."
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/27/tuttle_ema il/
Dear Mr. Mayor,
I wrote you earlier concerning your city manager, Jerry A. Taylor.
Mr. Taylor does not recognize that the kind and helpful man at CentOS didn't help him because he 'threatened to contact the FBI'. He received help because the man at CentOS chose to help him.
From an update I read this evening:
>Taylor - who once proclaimed to the CentOS staff, "I have no fear of the >media, in fact I welcome this publicity" - has asked us to put a halt to the >publicity.
Mr. Taylor did not know what he was talking about. Had he called the FBI, it might have led to amusement on their part, but a waste of their time as well. They have better things to do than teach "IT expert Taylor" about web pages and server administrators.
If Mr. Taylor manages by "threatening to contact the FBI" in a situation like this, I must wonder if his basic management style is to use threats, bullying, intimidation, and abusive language; these are not traits that develop overnight.
Mr. Taylor writes:
>I do not follow instructions that show up when a website that I am not >familiar with appears on my computer and I do not think anyone with experience >would do so either.
The instructions Mr. Taylor chose to ignore:
***begin quote***
If you are a member of the general public:
The fact that you are seeing this page indicates that the website you just visited is either experiencing problems or is undergoing routine maintenance.
If you would like to let the administrators of this website know that you've seen this page instead of the page you expected, you should send them e-mail. In general, mail sent to the name "webmaster" and directed to the website's domain should reach the appropriate person.
For example, if you experienced problems while visiting www.example.com, you should send e-mail to "webmaster@example.com".
If you are the website administrator:
You may now add content to the directory /var/www/html/. Note that until you do so, people visiting your website will see this page and not your content. To prevent this page from ever being used, follow the instructions in the file /etc/httpd/conf.d/welcome.conf.
You are free to use the images below on Apache and CentOS Linux powered HTTP servers. Thanks for using Apache and CentOS!
Note:
CentOS is an Operating System and it is used to power this website; however, the webserver is owned by the domain owner and not the CentOS Project. If you have issues with the content of this site, contact the owner of the domain, not the CentOS project.
Unless this server is on the CentOS.org domain, the CentOS Project doesn't have anything to do with the content on this webserver or any e-mails that directed you to this site.
For example, if this website is www.example.com, you would find the owner of the example.com domain at the following WHOIS server:
http://www.internic.net/whois.html
***end of quote***
By the way, had a "hacker" really gotten into Tuttle's computers, someone with Jerry A. Taylor's technical skills would not have known until his credit cards were maxed out, and the FBI arrived to shut down the kiddie-p0rn server running as a 'service' from his desktop PC. (Yes, it is very possible to do that to the technically inept or uninformed. Jerry A. Taylor is technically inept and uninformed.
If "hackers" had wanted to actually deface Tuttle's website, they would have done so in a quite "colorful" style. (They still may, actually.) It's unlikely they would have left a email contact address had they done so.
Mr. Taylor should apologize to the CentOS developer who helped him, then thank him for doing so, not continue to take apparent satisfaction in "having received help after threatening to contact the FBI".
Thank you,
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Re:my first question would have to be...
So while a lot of nonprofits have
.org, most .orgs are not nonprofit.Right. In fact, contrary to popular belief, there's nothing at all that says that
.org domains are even supposed to be for non-profits - or ever were. .org is, and always has been, a catch-all.From Internic:
.org was originally intended as a "miscellaneous" TLD for organizations that weren't commercial entities, educational institutions, network providers, or governmental agencies -
Registerfly SUCKS
!!!! NEVER USE REGISTERFLY !!!!
!!!! NEVER USE REGISTERFLY !!!!
!!!! NEVER USE REGISTERFLY !!!!
!!!! NEVER USE REGISTERFLY !!!!
They are NOT accredited by ICANN! http://www.internic.net/alpha.html
They do NOT have any phone support!
They do NOT have any escelation procedures for problems that continue to go unresolved.
Their servers go down for DAYS at a time!
My problems with RegisterFly are not isolated incidents or one-time goof-ups. The NUMEROUS and MAJOR problems I have encountered are symptoms of a completely broken operation. I used to work in the hosting arena, so I am VERY familiar with the types of challenges faced by RegisterFly. I tend to be (too) patient since I know what they might be going through; however, their issue handling constitutes gross negligence.
In my first 3 weeks of using RegisterFly for 6 new domains and 3 hosting packages (mid-range web-starter plan, not the super-cheap personal stuff), I have experienced the following problems:
1) Webhosting service down for 7 days straight.
2) DNS service down for 6 days straight.
3) None of the domains' e-mail services were setup. Rec'd auto-gen error e-mail re: failure to create new e-mail service.
4) Conflicting answers between live chat support sessions.
5) Conflicting answers between trouble ticket resolutions.
6) Trouble tickets being closed with no resolution and being asked to "open another ticket later..."
7) Buggy account login: I have to login twice anytime I access RFly.
8) Buggy checkout: Items continued to fall out of my shopping cart.
9) Buggy checkout: I could not register a domain name AND sign-up for web/mail hosting at the same time (despite being given the option to do so AND despite have done so a few days prior with another domain) I was told to purchase the domain name and come back later to sign-up for web/mail hosting.
10) The DNS, web, and mail hosting are dis-jointed systems cobbled togeather via clumsy control panels. The user interface issues are horrible.
11) Absolutely no phone support or any way to contact a real person.
12) Non-English support peoples are making difficult my chances of understanding the why problems of the issues not being fixing.
13) RegisterFly and Unified names is not even listed as an accredited registrar by ICANN! http://www.internic.net/alpha.html (MY fault for not checking this sooner.)
Support conversations go like this:
ME: My problem is blah blah...
RF: First of all, your settings are all wrong. They're still default values.
ME: I know, but I can't access the control panel to make the necessary changes. I was told last week that...
RF: Your settings have been corrected, please wait 24 to 72 hours for the change to be active.
ME: That's what I was told last week, but the problem still...
RF: Sir, please wait 24 to 72 hours and try again.
ME: But what if it doesn't work?
RF: Please open a support ticket.
ME: But they close the tickets without fixing the problem and ask me to re-open another one later.
RF: Sir, please wait 24 to 72 hours and try again.
ME: [I stop typing and just watch the chat window]
RF: Sir, please wait 24 to 72 hours and try again.
RF: Sir, please wait 24 to 72 hours and try again.
RF: Sir, please wait 24 to 72 hours and try again.
RF: Sir, please wait 24 to 72 hours and try again. -
Registerfly SUCKS
!!!! NEVER USE REGISTERFLY !!!!
!!!! NEVER USE REGISTERFLY !!!!
!!!! NEVER USE REGISTERFLY !!!!
!!!! NEVER USE REGISTERFLY !!!!
They are NOT accredited by ICANN! http://www.internic.net/alpha.html
They do NOT have any phone support!
They do NOT have any escelation procedures for problems that continue to go unresolved.
Their servers go down for DAYS at a time!
My problems with RegisterFly are not isolated incidents or one-time goof-ups. The NUMEROUS and MAJOR problems I have encountered are symptoms of a completely broken operation. I used to work in the hosting arena, so I am VERY familiar with the types of challenges faced by RegisterFly. I tend to be (too) patient since I know what they might be going through; however, their issue handling constitutes gross negligence.
In my first 3 weeks of using RegisterFly for 6 new domains and 3 hosting packages (mid-range web-starter plan, not the super-cheap personal stuff), I have experienced the following problems:
1) Webhosting service down for 7 days straight.
2) DNS service down for 6 days straight.
3) None of the domains' e-mail services were setup. Rec'd auto-gen error e-mail re: failure to create new e-mail service.
4) Conflicting answers between live chat support sessions.
5) Conflicting answers between trouble ticket resolutions.
6) Trouble tickets being closed with no resolution and being asked to "open another ticket later..."
7) Buggy account login: I have to login twice anytime I access RFly.
8) Buggy checkout: Items continued to fall out of my shopping cart.
9) Buggy checkout: I could not register a domain name AND sign-up for web/mail hosting at the same time (despite being given the option to do so AND despite have done so a few days prior with another domain) I was told to purchase the domain name and come back later to sign-up for web/mail hosting.
10) The DNS, web, and mail hosting are dis-jointed systems cobbled togeather via clumsy control panels. The user interface issues are horrible.
11) Absolutely no phone support or any way to contact a real person.
12) Non-English support peoples are making difficult my chances of understanding the why problems of the issues not being fixing.
13) RegisterFly and Unified names is not even listed as an accredited registrar by ICANN! http://www.internic.net/alpha.html (MY fault for not checking this sooner.)
Support conversations go like this:
ME: My problem is blah blah...
RF: First of all, your settings are all wrong. They're still default values.
ME: I know, but I can't access the control panel to make the necessary changes. I was told last week that...
RF: Your settings have been corrected, please wait 24 to 72 hours for the change to be active.
ME: That's what I was told last week, but the problem still...
RF: Sir, please wait 24 to 72 hours and try again.
ME: But what if it doesn't work?
RF: Please open a support ticket.
ME: But they close the tickets without fixing the problem and ask me to re-open another one later.
RF: Sir, please wait 24 to 72 hours and try again.
ME: [I stop typing and just watch the chat window]
RF: Sir, please wait 24 to 72 hours and try again.
RF: Sir, please wait 24 to 72 hours and try again.
RF: Sir, please wait 24 to 72 hours and try again.
RF: Sir, please wait 24 to 72 hours and try again. -
Re:Dupe it up.
Already registered! http://reports.internic.net/cgi/whois?whois_nic=d
u pedot.org&type=domain -
Re:And then there's outdated data
Just an idea - back-order the domain name through a registrar that allows you to do that, then submit the appropriate information to http://wdprs.internic.net/ with the hope that when InterNIC determines that the WHOIS info is invalid, they'll revoke the domain registration. I've not ever had to do that, so I can't speak as to how well it would work.
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here's where to report domains with bad info:http://wdprs.internic.net/
Note that complete and accurate whois information is a prerequisite for maintaining a domain registration.All accredited registrars have agreed with ICANN to obtain contact information from registrants, to provide it publicly by a Whois service, and to investigate and correct any reported inaccuracies in contact information for domain names registered through them.
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where do I live?
http://reports.internic.net/cgi/whois?whois_nic=o
m nibot.info&type=domain
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and hey- it's accurate information! -
Re:How can we persue the owner, not just the storeno, you'd submit a Problem Report via ICANN. The registrar is supposed to look into the problem, and request correction from the registrant. Failure to correct can result in your listing being yanked, but it's typically a several week to several month process, IF anything actually happens.
I've been submitted spamvertised sites with bogus registration info for months, and there are some registrars that never correct info, despite numerous reports, obviously false data, and even following up with Registrar Problem Reports.
A good example would be THIS LISTING for brightpants.com, for which I submitted a report 2 months ago, including responding to their followup, and the info is still bogus.
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Re:How can we persue the owner, not just the storeno, you'd submit a Problem Report via ICANN. The registrar is supposed to look into the problem, and request correction from the registrant. Failure to correct can result in your listing being yanked, but it's typically a several week to several month process, IF anything actually happens.
I've been submitted spamvertised sites with bogus registration info for months, and there are some registrars that never correct info, despite numerous reports, obviously false data, and even following up with Registrar Problem Reports.
A good example would be THIS LISTING for brightpants.com, for which I submitted a report 2 months ago, including responding to their followup, and the info is still bogus.
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Re:it is possible that...
I'm fairly sure that the sub-registrars you go through (godaddy.com, regsiter.com, etc.) are just middle men.
godaddy.com is not a sub-registrar, it is a registrar. One of many in fact.
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Re:One Word Answer
No, the word is "irrelevant" not "no".
If you can get the file currently at this address: ftp://internic.net/domain/root.zone.gz then the internet will work for you no matter what the US EU or UN do. Ten years from mow that very file will still resolve 90+ % of the internet - and will as long as just one of either com or net tld servers doesnt change ip's - that could be decades. or longer. As long as 1 of 13 works, it'll get the others automagically and from there (it's been shown that) the entire DNS tree can be built form this; the subset which is the root zone even more trivially so.
The internet will actualy work for you no matter where you get this file Usenet, say. It's been available via telnet in other places for over a decade. The sky is definitly not falling. But it is raining and you might want to tighten things up a bit.
The US and the UN think the internet is under their control because they edit this file. You can always edit it yourself in a pinch. Trust me on this.
Go get your own copy of the root and put yer thinking caps on and ponder a while and make your network part of the internet that routes around government damage. -
Re:For fucks sake...
"That's one way to look at it. Another way is that the UN is desperately trying to puff up its own importance in the face of growing scandals and ineffectiveness."
Bingo. Please understand that this is an ITU initiative, the UN could care less; the ITU is a UN chartered treaty organization; in some sense the two can be and are intermingled in word.
The ITU used to coordinate telephone line voltages so you could call Botswana from Siberia and it would work. They also coordinate radio and satellite spectrum.
The problem is, they don't coordinate anything in the internet. They don't like that and badly seek relevance in a post-POTS (plain old telephone service) internet era. Go find and read Carl Malamud's tome in this area: "Exploring the Internet" to read how the ITU blocked the internet for years and pay special attenction to one Robert Shaw in the book and in the formative IAHC/ICANN era.
Remember it was the ITU (+ WIPO + ISOC) that got their bums spanked by the US for making a run at controlling the DNS with the ill-thought out "IAHC" scandal. It's the same people running around behind the scenes folks. Like the cockroaches they are, they thrive in darkness and secrecy. The only thing that's open is their wallets.
Now, why is it you care whether it's a corrupt bunch of euros or a pack of demented fundies in the US? You don't.
Here's what they're fighting over:
ftp://internic.net/domain/root.zone.gz
Have fun kids. A domain is a domain is a domain. They all act the same at all levels. Just declare yourself primary for . (dot).
If you do this the goverments and treaty organizations of the world now have less control over your computer, and you're immune from root server meltdowns or poitical chaos. I guess you could say you're trading politcal stability for technical stability.
About the only thing that has not changed in 10 years of DNS scuffles is the FTP server at internic.net. That handy little bugger just keeps on serving...
Of course in the interests of "stability" all governments will strongly urge you not to do this. Keep in mind whenever a government invades another territory it always says it is for "stability". That's really what they say. Check for yourself.
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He needs to fix his WHOIS data
From what I've been reading, the contact information in the WHOIS record is no longer valid for him, because neither his email address nor his cell phone number work any more.
Gee, I hope he fixes that soon. I'd hate for someone malicious to fill out a WHOIS Data Problem Report and get his domain revoked. That would be mean and sucky. -
Re:Isn't it obvious...
That's what the root servers do right now. The "excel spreadsheet" is a simple and relatively small textfile called "root zone file". It contains the NS (nameserver) records for all top level domains and glue records for these servers.
The problem is not of a technical nature. The disagreement is about who gets to say which nameserver is authoritative for the .iq and .tw top level domains, for example. -
Re:lol>And Office Inc would probably do Office for the Internet too
> (which Microsoft will fight tooth and nail against unless
> someone like Google does Google Office first).Bill G has repeatedly pushed for Office on the internet. This part of the whole "ie is integrated into the OS" thing. He wants IE to be the OS. This gives MS full control over the licensing of Windows apps, especially Office. MS could then rent office and other apps to users on a subscription basis, instead of selling a semi-permanent license. Talk about your captive users and forced upgrades! Why on earth would MS fight this?
Sounds like what Bill wants to do is "Office for IE on Windows" and his motivation is better control over licensing. That's not "Office for Internet" which, theoretically, would not be dependant on IE or Windows, and would be about innovating a new way for people to work.
I can already access all my GMail with any browser, and I have 250G storage. Soon I expect I'll be able to access all my GDocuments and wordprocess and speadsheet them with any browser. (Or maybe with a GBrowser on any computer. Then, who needs Windows?
Bill openly says that he runs Microsoft under the assumption that they can be irrelevant in 5 years -- right now Google is the most likely candidate to dethrone him.
Sam
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Not fully 2LD complaint...$ whois warez.uk.com
Whois Server Version 1.3
Domain names in the
.com and .net domains can now be registered with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net/ for detailed information.No match for "WAREZ.UK.COM".
Hey, where's the entry "warez A 127.0.0.1"? Everyone doing 2LDs has to have a 127.0.0.1 entry for warez!
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Re:What stylus?
Can you please elucidate what your sig (mogorific carpentry experiments) means?
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Re:Paul Vixie really controls it...
Do most DNS server operators really use the root hints file that comes with BIND? I always downloaded the InterNIC version, that site being administered by ICANN on behalf of the DoC.
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Re:U.S. Won't Let Go of DNS - So what?
This is really a non issue since it only effects adoption of IPv6 and possibly the national security of foriegn nations that don't prepare for the loss or tampering of root server records. The root zone has fewer records than your average mom-n-pop ISP manages in any number of zones so an arguement that the US has some special expertise is just silly. See for yourself. The only thing that makes the root servers special is that everone agrees to use them. At any moment, even you could choose not to use the root servers anymore, let alone a country or continent. The only real issues are stability of service and the widespread adoption of IPv6.
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Re:OK, I'll go first: how is this legal?!
What I've never understood is how a human-run operation that blacklists based on human decisions, and which by blacklisting an organisation can interfere with both their business and their reputation, isn't breaking about half a dozen laws that would subject them to more-or-less open-ended damage suits. Can any lawyer reading this please explain why this doesn't count under things like defamation legislation?
Truth is an absolute defense against defamitory statements. But, of course, a spammer with deep-pockets can expensively harass a blocklist operator into oblivion, so this is why more serious blocklists are safely located well outside of the reach of US law, like SPEWS, which is located in Siberia.Isn't it ironic that, in order to preserve one's free speech, one has to move to the old archvillain Soviet-Union???
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Re:It's still available...A bit more information
We'll have to wait to see who picks up that domain name. ( Looks
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Re:Oh grow up you lottsk tsk tsk. You're on slashdot, and you use PING to check if a domain name is taken? It could be down. It could be squatted but not hosted... etc..
The correct tool for this situation is, of course, whois(1).
-bash-3.00$ whois hotairportporn.com
Whois Server Version 1.3
Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net/
for detailed information.
No match for "HOTAIRPORTPORN.COM".
>>> Last update of whois database: Thu, 26 May 2005 20:40:50 EDT -
Re:This hit Microsoft as well
A late reply, noone will ever care, but here goes:
whois microsoft.com: canonix:~ nichotin$ whois microsoft.com Whois Server Version 1.3 Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net/ for detailed information. MICROSOFT.COM.ZZZ.IS.0WNED.AND.HAX0RED.BY.SUB7.NET MICROSOFT.COM.WILL.LIVE.FOREVER.BECOUSE.UNIXSUCKS. COM MICROSOFT.COM.WILL.BE.SLAPPED.IN.THE.FACE.BY.MY.BL UE.VEINED.SPANNER.NET MICROSOFT.COM.WILL.BE.BEATEN.WITH.MY.SPANNER.NET MICROSOFT.COM.WAREZ.AT.TOPLIST.GULLI.COM MICROSOFT.COM.WANADOODOO.COM MICROSOFT.COM.SUX.BUT.PYROFREAK.ORG.RULEZ.AND.DIOX YTECH.NET.DELETED.GANDI.NET MICROSOFT.COM.SMELLS.SIMPLECODES.COM MICROSOFT.COM.SHOULD.GIVE.UP.BECAUSE.LINUXISGOD.CO M MICROSOFT.COM.RAWKZ.MUH.WERLD.MENTALFLOSS.CA MICROSOFT.COM.OHMYGODITBURNS.COM MICROSOFT.COM.LIVES.AT.SHAUNEWING.COM MICROSOFT.COM.IS.NOT.AS.COOL.AS.SIMPLECODES.COM MICROSOFT.COM.IS.IN.BED.WITH.CURTYV.COM MICROSOFT.COM.IS.GOD.BECOUSE.UNIXSUCKS.COM MICROSOFT.COM.IS.A.STEAMING.HEAP.OF.FUCKING-BULLSH IT.NET MICROSOFT.COM.HAS.ITS.OWN.CRACKLAB.COM MICROSOFT.COM.HAS.A.PRESENT.COMING.FROM.HUGHESMISS ILES.COM MICROSOFT.COM.FLINGS.POO.AT.MONKEYCORE.COM MICROSOFT.COM.FILLS.ME.WITH.BELLIGERENCE.NET MICROSOFT.COM.CAN.GO.FUCK.ITSELF.AT.SECZY.COM MICROSOFT.COM.ARE.GODDAMN.PIGFUCKERS.NET.NS-NOT-IN -SERVICE.COM MICROSOFT.COM.AND.MINDSUCK.BOTH.SUCK.HUGE.ONES.AT. EXEGETE.NET MICROSOFT.COM To single out one record, look it up with "xxx", where xxx is one of the of the records displayed above. If the records are the same, look them up with "=xxx" to receive a full display for each record. >>> Last update of whois database: Sun, 8 May 2005 20:21:41 EDT NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the registrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry is currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration date of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoring registrar. Users may consult the sponsoring registrar's Whois database to view the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration. TERMS OF USE: You are not authorized to access or query our Whois database through the use of electronic processes that are high-volume and automated except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or modify existing registrations; the Data in VeriSign Global Registry Services' ("VeriSign") Whois database is provided by VeriSign for information purposes only, and to assist persons in obtaining information about or related to a domain name registration record. VeriSign does not guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a Whois query, you agree to abide by the following terms of use: You agree that you may use this Data only for lawful purposes and that under no circumstances will you use this Data to: (1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail, telephone, or facsimile; or (2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that apply to VeriSign (or its computer systems). The compilation, repackaging, dissemination or other use of this Data is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of VeriSign. You agree not to use electronic processes that are automated and high-volume to access or query the Whois database except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or modify existing registrations. VeriSign reserves the right to restrict your access to the Whois database in its sole discretion to ensure operational stability. VeriSign may restrict or terminate your access to the Whois database for failure to abide by these terms of use. VeriSign reserves the right to modify these terms at any time. The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains and Registrars. canonix:~ nichotin$ -
Re:Biggest story of the day
Google wasn't hacked, that's just your browser redirecting to google.com.net because
.com was down - it's the default behaviour for Safari, as far as I recall, isn't it? (notice how http://www.google.com.net/ is the page your screenshot shows?). The real issue is the major DNS poisoning going on, seemingly centered around gulli.com, seemingly a German hacking/cracking site (not directly linking, possible spyware risk);
Open a terminal and run a whois on any major search site you can think of - google.com, yahoo.com, altavista.com, etc - you'll get results like:
matt@site-4:~$ whois altavista.com
Whois Server Version 1.3
Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net/
for detailed information.
Server Name: ALTAVISTA.COM.IS.N0T.AS.1337.AS.SEARCH.GULLI.COM
IP Address: 80.190.192.4
Registrar: KEY-SYSTEMS GMBH
Whois Server: whois.rrpproxy.net
Referral URL: http://www.key-systems.net/
So wake up Slashdot! No need for the coverup, it wasn't just your baby Google that got damaged, there's something serious going on that definately is 'News for Nerds' and you're posting stories about stem cells (admittedly fairly important) and some loser being picky about his motherboard.
Mod me and all these other posts Offtopic, but please, editor on duty, whoever you are, give us someplace to discuss this. -
Also Microsoft
Looks like someone's been busy. A whois on Microsoft currently (11:58 pm est) returns the following (microsoft lowercased to pass the lameness filter):
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Whois Server Version 1.3
Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net/
for detailed information.
Aborting search 20 records found .....
microsoft.com.WAREZ.AT.TOPLIST.GULLI.COMm icrosoft.com.WANADOODOO.COM
microsoft.com.SUX.BUT .PYROFREAK.ORG.RULEZ.AND.DIOX YTECH.NET.DELETED.GANDI.NET
microsoft.com.SMELLS. SIMPLECODES.COM
microsoft.com.SHOULD.GIVE.UP.BECA USE.LINUXISGOD.CO M
microsoft.com.RAWKZ.MUH.WERLD.MENTALFLOSS.CAm icrosoft.com.OHMYGODITBURNS.COM
microsoft.com.LIV ES.AT.SHAUNEWING.COM
microsoft.com.IS.NOT.AS.COOL .AS.SIMPLECODES.COM
microsoft.com.IS.IN.BED.WITH. CURTYV.COM
microsoft.com.IS.GOD.BECOUSE.UNIXSUCKS .COM
microsoft.com.IS.A.STEAMING.HEAP.OF.FUCKING- BULLSH IT.NET
microsoft.com.HAS.ITS.OWN.CRACKLAB.COM
mi crosoft.com.HAS.A.PRESENT.COMING.FROM.HUGHESMISS ILES.COM
microsoft.com.FLINGS.POO.AT.MONKEYCORE.C OM
microsoft.com.FILLS.ME.WITH.BELLIGERENCE.NET microsoft.com.CAN.GO.FUCK.ITSELF.AT.SECZY.COM
mic rosoft.com.ARE.GODDAMN.PIGFUCKERS.NET.NS-NOT-IN -SERVICE.COM
microsoft.com.AND.MINDSUCK.BOTH.SUCK .HUGE.ONES.AT. EXEGETE.NET
microsoft.com
To single out one record, look it up with "xxx", where xxx is one of the
of the records displayed above. If the records are the same, look them up
with "=xxx" to receive a full display for each record.
>>> Last update of whois database: Sat, 7 May 2005 08:52:39 EDT
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Check out Google's WHOIS info
As of 11:53 PM est, a whois on google.com returns the following:
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Whois Server Version 1.3
Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net/
for detailed information.
GOOGLE.COM.SUCKS.FIND.CRACKZ.WITH.SEARCH.GULLI.C OM
GOOGLE.COM.HAS.LESS.FREE.PORN.IN.ITS.SEARCH.ENGI NE .THAN.SECZY.COM
GOOGLE.COM
To single out one record, look it up with "xxx", where xxx is one of the
of the records displayed above. If the records are the same, look them up
with "=xxx" to receive a full display for each record.
>>> Last update of whois database: Sat, 7 May 2005 08:52:39 EDT -
File a complaint, maybe?
Try filing a complaint with ICANN
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Re:Well
Whois Server Version 1.3
Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net/
for detailed information.
No match for "MANSPIRE.COM".
It's your lucky day! -
Re:Which is it?Likely to be corrected by a zillion
/.ers but here goes ...
.com is a gTLD - the g standing for global. .ca is a ccTLD - the cc standing for country code. .us is also a ccTLD, but hardly used, possibly because it would be an admission that the US != The World.
Therefore .com is not American. Also note from the Internic FAQ:The
.com, .info, .name, .net, and .org TLDs are open and unrestricted. -
Re:These stories always piss me offThe part you quoted was never meant to prove it, but take a look at the UDRP and see if "selling for profit" is one of the criteria.
Why don't you read it? For your benefit (emphasis mine):
4. a. Applicable Disputes. You are required to submit to a mandatory administrative proceeding in the event that a third party (a "complainant") asserts to the applicable Provider, in compliance with the Rules of Procedure, that
(i) your domain name is identical or confusingly similar to a trademark or service mark in which the complainant has rights; and
(ii) you have no rights or legitimate interests in respect of the domain name; and
(iii) your domain name has been registered and is being used in bad faith.
In the administrative proceeding, the complainant must prove that each of these three elements are present.
Enter the UDRP. The reason unfathomable? Well, it's my business's name...is that unfathomable to you?
So what? Have you trademarked the 4 letter acronym of your business's name? If you haven't, then you have no rights to that domain according to section 4(a) as you need to prove that all three of those conditions have been met.
Again, please find yourself a definition of cyber-squatting and read the UDRP. Use an open mind and scrounge up some intelligence, read the UDRP and ICANN's stance/definition of cyber-squatting and legitamate use for domain names...
Well, I've read up on UDRP and you're wrong. Unless you're leaving out the crucially vital tidbit that you have a trademark for your company name's 4 letter acronym, the rest of it doesn't matter. The Internic UDRP FAQ confirms this (emphasis mine):
In such cases, - commonly called "cybersquatting" - a holder of trademark rights initiates the administrative procedure by filing a complaint with an approved dispute-resolution service provider. In order to have the domain name transferred or cancelled, the trademark holder must establish (1) that he has a legally recognized trademark in a name that is identical or confusingly similar to the domain name; (2) that the current registrant of the domain name has no legitimate rights in the name; and (3) that there has been some evidence of bad faith or abuse.
you might also want to check out how many other short domain names are used by cyber-squatters...they tended to buy those up a while ago to sell for profit
And popularity proves what, exactly? Show me the ICANN policy which states that if I purchase a domain name in good faith, have violated no trademarks in doing so, and wish to sell it, that I'm in violation of said policy.
In everything I've read, cybersquatting only applies when a trademark violation occurs. Just tell me that you've trademarked your company name's 4 letter acronym which matches this domain name in question and I will fully agree that UDRP applies and that you have a case. Otherwise, I don't think it's I who needs to scrounge up intelligence. -
Re:forbes
Whois lookup
Domain Name: COM-SUCKS.COM
Registrar: BULKREGISTER, LLC.
Whois Server: whois.bulkregister.com
Referral URL: http://www.bulkregister.com
Name Server: XS1.XSTRINGS.COM
Name Server: XS2.XSTRINGS.COM
Name Server: XS3.XSTRINGS.COM
Name Server: XS4.XSTRINGS.COM
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Updated Date: 27-mar-2004
Creation Date: 28-mar-2000
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Re:Sollog?I will attempt to give you some hint and ressources to understand the topic
:) Hope it will be enough (note that I don't care to be moded down as troll by TOH followers).Read the Wikipedia article as well as its history for a start.
Then what may interest you is that WikiPediA Sucks is run by himself (as said in article), but also that most of the proofs that is said against wikipedia comes from a single source, that is, Adoni Corporation.
you shall note too, that The E undergroud, which sells "SEX and DEATH video" (cited from the website), is also owned by the same company, as said here and here, with sollog.com proof here. THIS IS THE SAME CORPORATION, if you read whois carefully. So he accuses a guy of being associated with BOMIS (which is true or false, i dunno, whatever) and is HIMSELF SELLING porn and death videos over the net. That kills all credibility he might have before.
This is just the peak of the iceberg, though, but I'm too lazy to write much more, but it gives you a general picture of the guy (actually, I'm against him, so maybe some member of TOH would want to reply, and I'll appreciate the opened discussion with him/her).
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Re:Sollog?I will attempt to give you some hint and ressources to understand the topic
:) Hope it will be enough (note that I don't care to be moded down as troll by TOH followers).Read the Wikipedia article as well as its history for a start.
Then what may interest you is that WikiPediA Sucks is run by himself (as said in article), but also that most of the proofs that is said against wikipedia comes from a single source, that is, Adoni Corporation.
you shall note too, that The E undergroud, which sells "SEX and DEATH video" (cited from the website), is also owned by the same company, as said here and here, with sollog.com proof here. THIS IS THE SAME CORPORATION, if you read whois carefully. So he accuses a guy of being associated with BOMIS (which is true or false, i dunno, whatever) and is HIMSELF SELLING porn and death videos over the net. That kills all credibility he might have before.
This is just the peak of the iceberg, though, but I'm too lazy to write much more, but it gives you a general picture of the guy (actually, I'm against him, so maybe some member of TOH would want to reply, and I'll appreciate the opened discussion with him/her).
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Re:Sollog?I will attempt to give you some hint and ressources to understand the topic
:) Hope it will be enough (note that I don't care to be moded down as troll by TOH followers).Read the Wikipedia article as well as its history for a start.
Then what may interest you is that WikiPediA Sucks is run by himself (as said in article), but also that most of the proofs that is said against wikipedia comes from a single source, that is, Adoni Corporation.
you shall note too, that The E undergroud, which sells "SEX and DEATH video" (cited from the website), is also owned by the same company, as said here and here, with sollog.com proof here. THIS IS THE SAME CORPORATION, if you read whois carefully. So he accuses a guy of being associated with BOMIS (which is true or false, i dunno, whatever) and is HIMSELF SELLING porn and death videos over the net. That kills all credibility he might have before.
This is just the peak of the iceberg, though, but I'm too lazy to write much more, but it gives you a general picture of the guy (actually, I'm against him, so maybe some member of TOH would want to reply, and I'll appreciate the opened discussion with him/her).
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Security Risks from Bogus Whois Problem Reports
Think transfer security is a problem
... there's a security problem far worse:
(a post of mine reposted from ICANNWatch http://www.icannwatch.org/ - slashdot.org rejected it, but I'm used to that LOL!)
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Bogus "Whois Problem Reports" are increasingly going from being an annoyance to being a real security risk. Some recent incidents I've experienced due to Whois Problem Reports *merely* being filed:
* Dotster, about two weeks ago, threatened to delete a domain if I didn't respond.
* BulkRegister, just yesterday, threatened to suspend a domain if I didn't respond within 5 calendar days.
What good are Whois Problem Reports when anyone can file one and there is virtually no screening performed to ensure such reports have any validitity to them; reports filed on some of my domains claimed everything was wrong, including the expiration date - what!? Talk about pure nonsense!
As of now, if one wants to cause a registrant problems, all they need to do is file bogus reports at the Internic link below (it's so easy, it's frightening!) - heck, if someone really wanted to be deviant, they could spread a virus that sends bogus Whois Problem Reports from hijacked computers...
http://wdprs.internic.net/
In addition, some registrars, such as GoDaddy, charge a fee to the registrant for *merely* reviewing a Whois Problem Report for a particular domain, regardless of whether the report is valid - see links below for more details:
http://www.dnforum.com/showthread.php?t=67862
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&th readid=328696&perpage=15&pagenumber=1
There is much talk about the transfer policy changes and security, yet bogus Whois Problem Reports is a security risk many times worse.
Some ICANN policy changes are needed pronto regarding Whois Problem Reports...
1. Requiring more than just a name and email for people making complaints - they should have to provide a postal address that's verifyable and/or some other information.
2. Screening of such reports - permit registrars, if they're not already, to toss out Whois Problem Reports that they feel are invalid without involving the registrant; stop wasting their time over this nonsense.
3. A standard on how registrars handle Whois Problem Reports
* including a reasonable time for the registrant to respond, such as 30 calendar days, before any action is taken ... as of now, some registrars do little while others suspend domains within only a few days - so if one goes away on holiday, they could very likely come back and find their domains suspended/deleted.
Something needs to be done before bogus Whois Problem Reports get any further out of hand ...
Ron Bennett -
Re:WhoIs information
If someone wants to take the challenge of reporting it: Here's the link