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MOSR has been irrelevant in the rumors "industry" (in my opinion) since they completely missed the boat on the iMac all those years ago. Their "rumors" tend to come from pie-eyed "what-if" scenarios snarfed form IRC these days.

There's much better Mac rumor sites out there - MacRumors and Macslash being two of them.

The currently suggested date is November 5th; MacPlus has "sources" that are confirming the new TiBook and/or a new 19" widescreen display for around then. Sites like MacRumors are claiming that they have confirmation of this, though we'll see. All I know is that A) early November would make it just past 6 months since the last update for the TiBook, and B) MacWorld Expo Spain begins the very same day.

There's no definite specs, but it's likely that we'll see something like 800/1000 MHz processor options (I've heard that it may be 867/1000), and maybe DDR memory and/or a Superdrive option. The cooling and paint processes may be improved as well.

Fyi, the Apple switchers are real and some of them post in the macrumors.com forums.

http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?s=da33c2d0b 91e364ddc7af1005353836d&action=getinfo&userid=5444

Scroll down to Aaron Adam's post or Pgant's on the 2nd page.

OS X version coming in December

blakespot

Well. MOSR is the only site that's both constantly incorrect and constantly paid attention to. There are other sites that are just as full of crap, but MOSR gets attention... well... because they act like they get attention.

The frustrating thing with MOSR is that they seem to never fucking learn. They might always have well placed sources for their info, but... those sources are so overly optimistic that they consistently make MOSR look like idiots.

ThinkSecret and MacRumors are both much better rumor sites, and I don't believe that they detract from Apple's sales in the slightest. Nick DePlume of Thinksecret seems to care enough about accuracy that he doesn't make many long-distance predictions. I've never seen him be very incorrect. His steadfast accuracy has made me reconsider purchase of a PC desktop, lately, because he says ATI is working on an all-in-wonder card for the mac. I believe him completely.

MacRumors has a much higher volume of information, so sometimes they come up with crap, but they never make it sound more authoritative than it is. They don't act like you can bet the farm on their information.

At this point, MOSR needs to curl up and die. Back in the day, they had enough viewers and sources that they could have been the premier rumor site indefinitely. Even with Jobs' crackdown on leaks. But their BS predictions (and crappy management) probably alienated as many sources as it did readers. So now those sources go to Thinksecret.

there have been rumors that ibm's upcoming 64 bit PPC chip supports altivec.

Amazon is offering a $50 mail in rebate for jaguar as part of a back to school promotion. Looks legit to me *shrug*

• The quote regarding Steve Jobs on Intel may have been misrepresented by the original article. The quote came from Apple's Q3 Financial Analyst Meeting Q&A. From that broadcast, here is the entire quote in context:
  
  (5m 40s) Steve Jobs was asked about porting Mac OS X to Intel:
  
  Steve Jobs: "The roadmap on the PowerPC actually looks pretty good and there are some advantages to it. As an example, the PowerPC has something in it called AltiVec, we call the Velocity Engine -- it's a vector engine -- it dramatically accelerates media, much better than, as an example, the Intel processors or the AMD processors... so we actually eek out a fair amount of performance from these things when all is said and done. And the roadmap looks pretty good. Now, as you point out, once our transition to Mac OS 10 is complete, which I expect will be around the end of this year or sometime early next year and we get the top 20% of our installed base running 10, and I think the next 20 will come very rapidly after that. Then we'll have options, then we'll have options and we like to have options. But right now, between Motorola and IBM, the roadmap looks pretty decent. " ... so it looks like discussions of OS X on Intel/AMD may be a premature. (despite repeated speculation on this

Steve Jobs: "The roadmap on the PowerPC actually looks pretty good and there are some advantages to it. As an example, the PowerPC has something in it called AltiVec, we call the Velocity Engine -- it's a vector engine -- it dramatically accelerates media, much better than, as an example, the Intel processors or the AMD processors... so we actually eek out a fair amount of performance from these things when all is said and done. And the roadmap looks pretty good. Now, as you point out, once our transition to Mac OS 10 is complete, which I expect will be around the end of this year or sometime early next year and we get the top 20% of our installed base running 10, and I think the next 20 will come very rapidly after that. Then we'll have options, then we'll have options and we like to have options. But right now, between Motorola and IBM, the roadmap looks pretty decent. "

Besides, it seems Steve was misquoted. Sorry.

--Bud

Bad:
- The new iMac is still PC100/800 MHz.
- No "upgrade edition" of Jaguar.

Agreed. Even if the G4 is as "pentium-crushing" as Lord Steve claims, ordinary SDRAM is a nasty bottleneck that leaves us well behind increasingly-common Wintel boxes with DDR or RDR.

Although I'd still be satisfied with a PowerMac LC, my new pipe dream is the PowerMac nForce2 . :-)

And if Apple won't sell me a Jaguar upgrade for $39 or less, I'll probably end up burning a copy. :-(

Apparently I wasn't the only one who wished that Apple would team up with Nvidia.

If there isn't an expandable Mac around $900 by the time the Shuttle SN40 arrives, I'm getting an nForce2.

just fueling the fire

I was listed with high Tetris scores many times in Nintendo Power magazine. I also sent letters showing how I'd given GameBoys to Gorbachev and Bush. The latter was seen playing one shortly thereafter on TV in a hospital after a heart problem. It got to the point that Nintendo Power wouldn't list my name again so I sent in a score photo and used the name "Evets Kainzow" which is both my names backwards. When I got the next issue and flipped to see if anyone had beaten my high score, I saw this name but forgot having sent it in. I was worried that someone was close to me. I noticed that he had a foreign sounding name and that he lived in Saratoga, the next city over. Then I realized that it was my own trick.

MacWorld New York is RSN (17th), the current towers have (apparently) been EOL'd and this is floating around That's an Apple logic board (allegedly), it has DDR memory slots... it's a strange shape AND it's not an Xserve board.. you do the math :)

i understand that both these sites are protesting apple's labelling them as "rumor" sites.

I'd say that macrumors.com gave them more good press than bad.

Just a reminder to all OS X users: 10.1.5 is rumored to be the last no-cost upgrade to OS X. 10.2 (Jaguar) will be a pay-to-play upgrade per Steve Jobs.

MacOSrumors talks out of it's ass...

MacRumors seems pretty on target...

Different beasts altogether.

MacRumors had a rumor about a 17" CRT iMac 2 weeks ago.

The Macworld Conference and Expo/Tokyo 2002 website is here with information on the event and the exhibits.

There is also a thread at Macrumors on the event.

Those wanting to watch the keynote are out of luck because there are no plans to broadcast it this year, like they have done in the past.

This is apparently part of an ad - see Macrumors for more details.

Yeah, such as from Mac OS Rumors, Mac rumors, Apple Insider, or others (macsurfer, and macslash had links).

That's MacOS Rumors and macrumors.com. Two rumor sites that are Mac-oriented.

Can't you guys do a little background research?