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They are indeed selling a v265. It's not like they magically removed the parts that make it a v265. The manufacturer's site almost always says "Carrier dependent" or something to that effect for features that carriers may wish to not offer/disable: see Motorola's V265 product page.

Look at it like this - I offer to sell you a Toyota Prius hybrid. You figure "great - save a lot of money". Then, after you've bought it, you find out that I've removed everything that allows it to function as a hybrid - it now runs on gasoline only. And I own a lot of the gas stations in town. And I've modified the fill-up spout so that you can't get a fill-up from a competing gas station

That's a really, really bad analogy. Cars are sold strictly as a product; after buying a car, you can take it wherever you want to get gas and get maintenance, and you drive it on public roads, not roads owned by the dealer. When you buy a cellphone, you're buying a phone sold by a carrier or their dealers for use on that carrier's network with their services. If I buy a Honda from the nearest Honda dealer, they don't expect me to drive it on *their* roads. So, your analogy does not fit.

So, no fraud? Come on - they sold something without disclosing how it differed from a standard v265.

I see no description of a "standard" V265 anywhere that states that the V265 has these features that Verizon has disabled.

Please stop making things up.

I think the Motorola A780 is the coolest:
http://www.motorola.com/motoinfo/product/details/0 ,,70,00.html

The site doesn't mention it, but it will also have built in GPS.

VoIP is definitely taking off, and we're beginning to see most of the major telco equipment manufacturers signing onto it. I thought the most interesting part of the article was Microsoft's partnership with the big telco equipment companies, such as Nokia and Motorola. Motorola's already doing some interesting stuff with a Microsoft protocol called WMV12C, which is at the heart of Microsoft Live, where data moves using a circular topology. As you can see from the diagram, the protocol is optimized for typical voice traffic.

This is an exciting time to be in telecommunications. Long term, I see protocols like 802.16 taking over from traditional mobile telephony. You'll use an HPC instead of a traditional cellphone, and subscribe to a combination of a VoIP SP and a set of wireless (802.16) operators, getting all you can eat telecommunications for a price relative to the number of locations you travel to rather than the length of time you speak.

Pretty awesome.

VoIP is definitely taking off, and we're beginning to see most of the major telco equipment manufacturers signing onto it. I thought the most interesting part of the article was Microsoft's partnership with the big telco equipment companies, such as Nokia and Motorola. Motorola's already doing some interesting stuff with a Microsoft protocol called WMV12C, which is at the heart of Microsoft Live, where data moves using a circular topology. As you can see from the diagram, the protocol is optimized for typical voice traffic.

This is an exciting time to be in telecommunications. Long term, I see protocols like 802.16 taking over from traditional mobile telephony. You'll use an HPC instead of a traditional cellphone, and subscribe to a combination of a VoIP SP and a set of wireless (802.16) operators, getting all you can eat telecommunications for a price relative to the number of locations you travel to rather than the length of time you speak.

Pretty awesome.

http://www.motorola.com/motoinfo/product/details/0 ,,87,00.html

It's on motorola's website...

Thanks for the response. However, the Motorola V188 is not available with the T-Mobile Pay As You Go wireless service.

Someone who is outside the U.S. a lot does not want a U.S. monthly plan. T-Mobile seems to be the best "Pay As You Go" plan for a person with that requirement.

I wonder if it would be possible to get T-Mobile to sell a V188 with pay-as-you-go?

Important: It costs only $15 to get a phone unlocked, so no need to pay a lot more for an unlocked phone, provided there are no other difficulties, such as legality. My understanding is that it is not illegal to unlock a phone.

You should find everything you need at the iDen developer web site.

http://commerce.motorola.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/Pr oductDisplay?prrfnbr=444&prmenbr=126&pager_cgrfnbr =13&zipcode= Motorola has several two-way pagers. The pagewriter 2000x and the timeport 950 are practually the same. They've been around for a number of years, but the basic functionality is still perfect for what is needed. (I think the 950 has a newer OS, but the 2000x can be upgraded to the same, and they both have the same CPU & ram). They have basic email functionality, plus a bunch of PIM type applications. PC hookup is done via an infra-red port. You can also get a dev kit and create your own aplications via a java-like language and an ide. Applications include a couple of games, notepad, email, alert-tone editor, etc.

I got one just yesterday from T-mobile for free with activation, but it is available online unlocked for cheap.

The Motorola V188

No camera.
No IR.
No bluetooth.
Standard mini-usb for syncing.
GSM quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900) with GPRS.

Yes, it is colour, but it's basically as minimal as you can get righ now.

"Are there any World-Compatible GSM cellular telephones that don't offer much beyond calling and an address book?""

Choose a quad band phone like the Motorola V330 and have it unlocked, so that it can be used with other carriers. When you arrive in another country, choose a local GSM provider, and install their proprietary module in your phone; it's easy, you can do it yourself or have the phone provider employee do it. The Motorola V330 can operate on these bands: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz. That gives you the maximum opportunity in any city in the world.

It's best not to worry about minimal features. You can't fight the crazy marketing plans.

I suggest you try the T-Mobile Pay-As-You-Go Plan if you don't use a lot of minutes.

You definitely want GSM, the service is better. You definitely want a new phone, the sound quality is far better.

Ask around for someone in your city who will unlock your phone. Locking a phone without your knowledge should be illegal, companies don't warn customers that they are buying locked equipment.

One other thing, the PEBL is a family, not a specific phone. Motorola's first PEBL phone appears to be the V6.

a)amen: Motorola sure called it one...
http://www.motorola.com/mediacenter/news/detail/0, ,5484_5474_23,00.html

b) that's right, remember people - e = mc^2 where e is expensive, m is the manufacturers price, and c is the consumer demand.

c) not a single one of their 3 week old displays has had any problems!

d) arguably a scale issue, but problems can definitely crop up in the process when you jump up - especially 2^6ing your area.

It only took a month from the Nano Tube '05 Conference for this to hit the regular press, but Motorola announced this technology back in 2003.

just give me this phone and I'll be happy.

Galvin Manufacturing Corporation founder Paul V. Galvin creates the brand name "Motorola" for the company's new car radio, linking "motor" (motorcar, motion) with the suffix "ola" (sound). (source)

After changing the company name to Motorola in the 1940's, Motorola has only been able to make car radios.

What about Microsoft? They make hardware and large software products.

American Airlines flies internationally (but I guess I wouldn't rent a car from them)

Dunkin Donuts sells coffee

I can't believe that people pay $3 a ringtone to begin with! I just find a nice MP3, and upload it. Simple, no headaches, and a real selection, not the last 10 rap songs to come out.

I can't believe people use ringtones at all, much less pay for them. They're damned annoying. I just use a nice, non-annoying "ring" that came with my phone. Simple, no headaches, and no annoying everyone else around me when my phone rings.

Maybe I'm just a luddite, since my aging Motorola v60i does everything I need it to do (and in fact does stuff that I don't need it to do, like browse the web or send text messages). My requirements for a phone:

• Flips open. I've had my share of non-flip phones, and I'll never go back.
• Makes and answers phone calls.
• At least decent reception (most of this is the carrier, not the phone)
• Decent battery life (it should last at least a few days on standby).
• GSM, for convenience (so I can carry the phone with me to other GSM providers as I choose).
• Vibrate mode.

>However, if one was configured to work within FCC standards, paired with VOIP and a PBX this would be a godsend for a lot of companies and universities that have employees that are far-flung and travel a lot.
This was already invented.
It was called Motorola iDen.
The biggest provider was Nextel.
It was widely used by the construction industry for many of the reasons you describe.
They got bought by Sprint.
Now it will survive only as a "push to talk" checkbox on the cell phone feature list.

There's also a variety of non-networked non-pbx business-band radio stuff. MURS and GMRS, for example, are low entry point services. See more from Motorola.

>However, if one was configured to work within FCC standards, paired with VOIP and a PBX this would be a godsend for a lot of companies and universities that have employees that are far-flung and travel a lot.
This was already invented.
It was called Motorola iDen.
The biggest provider was Nextel.
It was widely used by the construction industry for many of the reasons you describe.
They got bought by Sprint.
Now it will survive only as a "push to talk" checkbox on the cell phone feature list.

There's also a variety of non-networked non-pbx business-band radio stuff. MURS and GMRS, for example, are low entry point services. See more from Motorola.

I can't get cable where I am, so I'm stuck with going with one of those pizza dishes or USDTV. Or so I thought. USDV does not get the scifi channel and thats a must for me. So I looked at the Pizza dish companies, and I really don't feel like paying $30-50 a month for so many channels that I won't watch. So I though I was stuck with USDTV, BUT a lightbulb came on in my head. I'm going to aquire a BUD (Big Ugly dish) from someone who has "upgraded" to a digital quality DBS dish. Snag a 4dtv reciver off of ebay and get my basic subscription programming from NPS. Plus I'm going to add a FTA reciver just because the feeds are there. THEN if after I spend so much money on all of this, I want a DBS system, I'll do it the hard way; I'll get Star Choice.

Links of intrest:
http://www.satelliteguys.us
http://global-cm.net/CAN/legal.html
http://www.bigdish.info/main.html
http://www.callnps.com
http://lyngsat.com/freetv/United-States.html
http://www.orbitmagazine.com/

I used to have a DirecTV/TiVo. I also have Vonage VOIP. TiVo's modem wasn't able to use my Vonage powered phone service, and the DirecTV/TiVo boxes had their USB ports disabled. This turned out to not be a problem at all though, because all it used its modem for was for purchasing Pay-Per-View movies from DirecTV. TiVo was unaffected by not having a phone connection. It downloaded all its programming via its satellite connection. So in effect DirecTV lost potential money from me buying Pay-Per-View movies because of their stupid policy of disabling home networking, which seemed pretty fair to me.

I got rid of my DirecTV/TiVo when I moved earlier this year and I got a Comcast DVR, mostly because I didn't want to spend $1000 on a DirecTV/TiVo that supported HDTV, like my Comast DVR does. It does not use a phone line at all and TiVo will just be a software update to the DVR, so no phone line should be needed after that either.

We should see a Motorola phone with iTunes onboard within the next two weeks
There released it already , but it's not cool s the iPod, becausse it has no wheel. I prefer my version of it .

I think this is a relevent link to the parent's post.

Motorla already has a solution for handing off between wifi and cellular with WLAN... just depends how much tech gets dumped into these offerings too...

Is that a Click Wheel on the E1060? If they collaborated with Apple, maybe they licensed the Click Wheel and are using it for navigating the phone's functions. It may make it easier to access them.

No QWERTY? Won't that limit all that instant messaging and e-mailing you could do with it, and before someone tells me about the size being a consideration you should check out my phone: the Motorola A630. Small does not mean no keyboard.

TV over a phone line has been available in Winnipeg, Canada, for a number of years now. It is being offered via our local phone company. You can get both your DSL and your TV through the phone company. The phone company's website is light on technical details. The equipment was provided by a company called "Next Level Communications" and I believe that it has been bought up by Motorola. See http://broadband.motorola.com/nlc/ . The actual device is called the "N3 Residential Gateway".

Because this is the first time someone's referred to Blackberries as "trendy."

Now this is trendy!

Does anybody really want an RSS reader or a game on their Tivo?

A RSS reader would be very cool if it had a web browser as well. Also, RSS could be the next way (or even current way) that the TV channel info is provided.

Seriously, who is going to play a game on the Tivo, or purchase a Tivo because of these features?

Millions of people put up with Windows only because they want to play games.

A cool feature would be a network interface you could use to access your saved shows via the computer.

I havn't tried it yet. But my DVR has a firewire port that I have read online that can be read by Macs. I havn't bought a firewire cable yet, but am very interested in such a thing.

I have to say that the Tivo wins the usability contest hands down. Even though the Cox box has the ability to record two channels at once, I prefer my Tivo.

The GUI is intuitive to operate - it took my wife no time to figure it out. As for the Cox box, well we haven't even figured out how to delete a show we are watching without fast forwarding to the end - to get the "special menu".

I've never used a Tivo, but I recently got the Cox HDTV DVR and its usability is very impressive. At least for my DVR to get to the "special menu" when watching a recorded show I hit the stop button and it asks me what I want to do. The model I have is the dtc6208. My only complaint is that it seems to be "busy" sometimes and ignore commands from the remote, but seems to have disappeared recently. Also, its terribly annoying that you cannot map the volume on the remote to do something like adjust the volume. I have to switch the remote "mode" to audio, then tinker with the remote and then go back to the cable mode. Very annoying, especially since the DVR does not have any volume adjustment on it whatsoever.

You may be able to take your Cox box in and get a new one, its worth checking out.

What I really wish would happen is someone would turn my cell phone, pda, and iPod into 1 good product that doesn't require me to take out a loan.

What I really wish would happen is someone would turn my cell phone, pda, and iPod into 1 good product that doesn't require me to take out a loan.

( http://www.motorola.com/ojo )

I agree, comcast will probably use the Motorola SBV 5120 Cable modem. The good thing about it, is the 8 hour battery backup, but that is just not enough.

You want a smooth framerate more than anything (including resolution) for the hearing impaired (or so they tell us) to get good sign language recognition. Stuttering, dropped frames, low framerates (20 fps or less), and adaptive framerates all cause problems for sign language.

Disclaimer: I work for WorldGate. We designed and produce the Motorola Ojo, a 30 fps H.264 consumer videophone.

Sure it does...

Hello moto...

Chipcon and Motorola are both producing 2.4GHz Zigbee RFIC's now. They are fairly inexpensive, about $4.50 each in 1k qty. ZMD will be releasing 900MHz Zigbee RFIC's very soon. Licensing the stack from one of these company's partners adds about $0.50 but of course you could always roll your own.

Number one, this is old, since the iPod firmware that did this, iPod Updater 2004-11-15, was released a month ago.

Number two, Apple is under no obligation to support ANYONE else's DRM, period.

Unprotected AAC, WAV, AIFF, MP3, etc., files from ANY source will play fine on ANY iPod. This is ONLY about Real reverse engineering FairPlay (more power to them) in order to allow their "Harmony" DRM-protected files to play on an iPod. They succeeded. And Apple is under NO obligation of any kind to allow it to continue. The iPod DOES NOT SUPPORT DRM files from ANY other source, so this isn't a matter of "doing what you want with something you bought". If you can personally get Real's songs to play on your iPod again, go for it. If Real re-engineers it such that the files work, great. Further, you are not forced to update the firmware. What's that? You'll eventually have to to get new features and bug fixes? Tough. Don't like it? Don't buy another iPod.

Apple is doing nothing legally, technically, ethically, morally or wrong.

Additionally, Apple does play with other vendors, such as Audible.com content, and Macrovision will have to be a FairPlay licensor to support some of its product claims (though more details aren't known), and Motorola phones will run a version of iTunes and support Apple's protected music. Apple can do whatever it wishes with its own products, and consumers may decide whether or not they would like to purchase them.

An example of where TV-on-cellphones would be useful.... on September 11th, is there any doubt that if most people had TV-on-cellphones, that everyone not near a TV would have been glued to their cell phone, watching video clips?

Anyway, my main question is... why come up with a new standard? It seems like most cell phones will support TCP/IP in the future.... why not simply use any/all of the existing streaming-video standards that are available? (eg. Windows Media, Real, MPEG... most of these already have embedded implementations).

• Danger's hiptop.
• Motorola's RAZR cellphone.
• Segway
• and, inevitably, the iPod.

(Yes, the Segway is still being sold.)

That Global Ethics press release is dated 2002. I'm not sure when exactly many of the mobile phone operators started their collection programs, but I can remember them occuring when I replaced my first mobile phone and that was more than 2 years ago. You see, all mobile phones have the capability (well, some Samsung models of a few years ago were unable and Samsung paid the price through a lawsuit) to place emergency calls whether they are activated or not. Manufacturers periodically collect old phones to donate to such places as women's shelters who then distribute them to battered women in need of an emergency phone. I'm sure the manufacturers receive a huge tax deduction for this act of charity.

Anyway, if you do not want to wait for a local collection event, you can go to Motorola's web site and print out a postage-paid sticker and you can mail them your old phone. If it is in good shape it may end up helping someone in need and if not, they make sure it is disposed of in an environmentally-friendly way. And as far as I can tell, Motorola collects any mobile phone, not just Motorola phones.

http://promo.motorola.com/recycle/phones/index.htm l

Not on Nokia (aren't they related to Sony anyhow?), but Motorola phones will be available for such

From what I understand iTunes has DRM, and I won't use DRM, no matter how flexible.

I completely agree with you. I only reluctantly purchase iTunes songs, partly because I'm lazy and dun wanna go to the store.

But that's the music store. At home I stuck 300 CDs on iTunes and there is no DRM in music that you own on CD. Nada. A 300 disc changer is well worth the 'adjusting to the times' and going with putting your CDs on your computer, especially when you want to make a playlist of your 20 disc collection of polynesian dance music to put on shuffle at 3am to drive your neighbours nuts.

It's not quite out yet, but the Motorola MPX looks like it's going to be a great combination of PDA and phone. It's got a snazzy dual hinge clamshell design which will allow it to open vertically to function as a phone, and then open horontally to function as a Pocket PC PDA.

It's supposed to be out sometime in the next three or four months.

You mean like this? http://www.motorola.com/mediacenter/news/detail/0, ,4505_3838_23,00.html Bickety Bam!

Presumably they are happy to take a loss because the buyers can't then jump to satellite easily...

Anyway, the 6208 (and presumably it's higher-end brother, the 6400 both allow direct recording to a firewire port, al though one reviewer said it just wouldn't work for PC, only Mac). of the post-decryption bitstream.

I was somewhat interested in this product until I saw the Motorola a630 which seems to be everything an ogo is, but with a phone and a camera thrown in as well. Now if they'd just release the damned things....

My old Motorola A008 did this years ago.

My old Motorola A008 did this years ago.

And I'm also certian that the US didn't just complete the first non-government manned space flight and doesn't have billions of dollars going to develop private space flight.

Give me a break.

China is emerging as an ecenomic powerhouse, and it looks like it will continue down that path, provided their government doesn't screw up. However please don't pretend like all good things come from China. I gave just a small list of the US companies that produce advanced hardware, including what drives almost all the devices you listed. Your MP3 player may be built in China but it's usually using TI DSPs and AD opamps.

You know it's perfectly possible for China AND the US to be economic powers, and for both to benefit from trade with each other.

Except the Motorola logo could seemingly be confused with Macromedia or Bacardi. Maybe moreso Bacardi than Macromedia, but the stylistic shaping of the M looks very similar. This is why another critical characteristic of a logo is uniqueness

A little plain?? Logos are supposed to be plain. Take a moment and look at some memorable logos. They're generally very, very, simple. This makes them easy to associate with the product. It helps build the brand.

If only more Free Software projects would follow the lead of NetBSD. There are a lot of decent logos out there too but by and large Free Software logos constitute strong evidence that Graphic Design is indeed a valuable skill. Not as valuable as coding, but still valuable.

Specifically, it's not about technical prowess in using your favourite graphics program, it's about being able to come up with strong ideas and express them strikingly, visually.

Not that I'm any good at it...