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Ditch the crappy mail client and get a real one :-)

he can't view the latest web pages (I know Moz is standards compliant, but a lot of sites aren't.)

• Glade XML for GTK+ apps
  
• XUL from the Mozilla project
  
• and now Renaissance from the GNUStep/Cocoa folks
  

According to this press release, the dual-screen computer uses Phoenix FirstBIOS, which includes a web browser that competes against a web browser based on the Mozilla code.

Considering that EVERYthing is dog slow on a Mac, your point is somewhat ineffectual. You should instead try to compare Opera with IE 5 (even slower than your mother) and that other behemoth that takes half a minute to load on the fastest G4 on the planet to really give these elitist nerds an idea what tortures you're going through as a Mac luser.

Ahh, but how many people use Yahoo's search rather than Google's simply because Yahoo is their email, instant messenger, chat room, and game playing place? Would you rather go to a new web page for your searches or quick-click an interface link to get that search?

Nooooo!

Apparently their rational was its popularity in China: bugzilla comment, despite some initial qualms with the idea.

Nooooo!

Apparently their rational was its popularity in China: bugzilla comment, despite some initial qualms with the idea.

REALLY BIG ADVERTISEMENTS POP UP/UNDER/SIDEWAYS/THROUGH/OVER/AROUND... ADS

I was wondering how we can be prepared for this, interestingly I stumbled over an SVG Vector drawing program named sodipodi a while ago:

Sodipodi
Sodipodi screenshots on Linux with GTK Geramik theme

It is a nice open source vector drawing program. And it got me interested in looking into the SVG format, which also supports (web) animation :-) . This article explains it a bit more:

SWF Is Not Flash (and Other Vectored Thoughts)

Anyway I think SVG will have a bright future and even can replace Flash (SWF) in certain extent, more info on SVG can be found at W3C.org here:

Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG) 1.0 Specification
Mozilla SVG Project

Actually, much to my surprise I found that IE6 can change the font size easily, without going to View, Text Size (as long as you've got a wheelmouse).

How? - Hold down CTRL and then scroll with your mouse wheel. Surprised?

I was, they sure could've documented this feature better! Still, I much prefer Mozilla.

• Mozilla offered an easy migration path, i.e. all his mail from Outlook Express was converted.
• Mozilla Mail was easy to use and offered more features.

<aol>I fully agree with the poster who said Pine has better usability than Outlook</aol>

Thank goodness that Pheonix came bundled with popup blocking automatically enabled.

It's interesting to note that the spyware-free Kaaza Lite's webpage slams you with four popups and at least one window that dances across your screen...

No popups get past the lizard, if he's set up properly.

annoying me with a loop animated

Oh, enlightment is to be found in the use of libre software. Since this is Slashdot, let me tell you about the wonderfulness of software libre. A concept so wonderful, everyone needs to understand it to be a part of the Slashdot in crowd. English does not even have a word which can truly grasp its wonderfulness! A concept do daring, speaking in languages which do have a word for libre give you funny looks (or have been exposed to a Linux fanatic before, so know what you are talking about) and correct your bad Spanish.

More to the point, one piece of software libre called Mozilla allows one to set up images so they only cycle through their animated loop once. Mozilla also has options to stop JavaScript from opening up unwanted windows.

Since it is software libre, it is also software gratis, which means you do not have to pay anyone to have this program. Of course, Mozilla has a way of not working on JavaScript-heavy sites which are not correctly debugged (read: Written by people that feel that the whole world uses IE. Or should); I can not, for example, sign for classes online using Mozilla. However, for most browsing, it is just like IE. Except without popups. Or non-stop animated GIFs. Now, if only the Mozilla team made an open source flash player...

IN closing, the deep question is: What does libre mean? Well, we could tell you, but we need to make being part of the in crowd a little more difficult. Or just tell people that their user ID needs to have four digits or less to be, like, totally cool dude.

- Sam

• Pick an Editor
  My personal favourite is KATE (K Advanced Text Editor). It has PHP highlighting built in (Easier on the eyes), it can have multiple documents open at the same time, and has some advanced features in comparison to WordPad.
• Save it to server directory
  This is located at /var/www/html/
• Pick a browser
  Mandrake comes with several browsers (Start->Networking->WWW) but my personal favourite is Phoenix.
• Test it in the browser Say you saved you PHP script to
  /var/www/html/myscript.php
  then you would be able to access it by typing in the address
  http://localhost/myscript.php
  This should work fine.
• Configuration
  I found the default configuration fine, but I needed to set up users for mysql. To do this I used Webmin, it should be on your Install CD if it isn't installed already. Once you have Webmin installed, in your browser visit:
  https://localhost:10000/
  Log in using your root (Admin) name and password. Then click servers, then click mysql, and there you go. For a frontend to mysql, i would suggest using PHPMyAdmin
• Learning PHP
  For learning PHP, I would suggest buying a book (I used "PHP A Beginners's Guide", published by osborne see here If you just want to use online resources, I personally think PHP's online manual (Just search The PHP Website. I also find PHP Freaks a good site, with lots of tutorials, examples, free scripts and a friendly forum, if you get stuck
• Hopefully that's enough
  If you need more help, feel free to email me. People will also be happy to help you at MandrakeExpert.com and for specific PHP needs, go to the above mentioned PHP Freaks. Hope I was able to help!

The userspace interface for OS X' IOKit is based on (ducking) Microsoft COM.

I'm getting OT here, but Mozilla makes a lot of use of their cross platform reimplimentation of COM called XPCOM.

Where is the giant banner add offering something I don't care about?

All joking aside I wish Opera the best, but I couldn't imagine using it when there are other viable options.

I guess it may be their last post, but this operation has always been kind of a "phoenix", rising from the ashes. (Or perhaps soiling themselves with said same.)

Here's why:
DirecTV DSL, a subsidiary of Hughes, which is in turn owned by General Motors, was formerly known as Telocity until Hughes purchased them in July 2001.

In my part of the country, the switch to the corporate entity Telocity occurred at about the same time as Northpoint bankruptcy forced a CLEC switch from Northpoint to Covad for some customers of Megapath. In October 2000, Megapath had purchased the assets and customer base of an ISP. Megapath kept the business customers of that ISP and spun off their residential customers to Chicago-based Telocity.

And the name of that ISP? Formerly-St. Louis-based Phoenix Networks, founded by a guy named Peter Roberts, who evolved a one-man network integration business into a rapid-growth internet service. Of course that Phoenix should not to be confused with Phoenix the BIOS that has the legal team that is making Phoenix the superlative web browser change it's name, none of which is happening in Phoenix.

Dizzy yet? I know I am. Hope I got at least the broad strokes right. Anyway, I'm glad I got off that Merry-Go-Round during what seemed to be a weekend-stay at MegaPath, though I supported a few friends throught the multiple changes that followed. Maybe the ride finally is coming to a stop.

Mozilla beat you to it.

I'm pretty sure it's that either hiesr (his+her, pronounced hee-zer) DHCP server not providing search, or not having the appropriate fields set. Or it might be a generational windowsism. I'm thinking it's probably the former or fotter (former + latter, pronounced fah-ter).

Niftyfun word confections. ;)

The Internet keywords is another thing entirely from what's discussed in the article. I'm not quite certain how exactly it functions; it seems to fetch urls based on what an external entity (or maybe a config file) assigns to the keywords. http://www.mozilla.org/docs/end-user/internet-keyw ords.html seems to be the page for info on it, as I see you've found. It's nice that you can customize it. :)

... make the ads as large as you want. As long as I control the client, I will never see most of them.

Right now I don't allow popups and I block any banner ad servers that I can. Soon, sophisticated regular expression based blocking, will allow me to block ads which are served from the the same server as the site's non-ad images.

Do I feel bad about this? Not any worse than I feel when I get up to get a beer during a television commercial or when I drive by billboards without looking at them.

... make the ads as large as you want. As long as I control the client, I will never see most of them.

Right now I don't allow popups and I block any banner ad servers that I can. Soon, sophisticated regular expression based blocking, will allow me to block ads which are served from the the same server as the site's non-ad images.

Do I feel bad about this? Not any worse than I feel when I get up to get a beer during a television commercial or when I drive by billboards without looking at them.

In response to this, the IAB is happy to provide four new formats for the new year, because the banner is actually well liked.

Also, what the hell ever happened to designing a page that was...oh...I don't know....simple? If I just have an image at the top, does it really matter how big it is? Why do I have to redesign my entire site?

"Larger ad units are far more alluring and impactful," Mr. Schroeder said. "Now that we offer skyscapers, big boxes and leaderboards, there is no question that the banner is less relevant. The leaderboard, for instance, occupies basically the same position on our pages as a banner, but is more than twice the size."

A dictionary doesn't even show a word for impactful. Those clever marketing people, so innovative. Of course, I think they're more moronicful. I also think they are suckful.

I like how they take normal words (skyscraper, leader board) and turn them into marketingesse. I'm just thankful that the pop-up, was met by something like mozilla with pop-up blocking, or what I propose we call guillotine

your bank's webpage is broken, you should tell them to fix it.
Always assume that it is the bank's fault Mozilla does allow access to banking pages.

I think that's what the poster is referring to, but even that is a non-issue now that 1.2.1 has been released.

Because Microsoft Internet Explorer does not come with a MNG viewer, the vast majority of home users of the World Wide Web cannot see MNG images.

See MNG4IE, an ActiveX control for viewing MNG in Microsoft Internet Explorer by Jason Summers, which installation is a simple matter of clicking the right link. There's also MNG Plug-in by Jason Summers. I don't use Microsoft Internet Explorer (I use Mozilla, which doesn't have such problems), but I know that there are actually many different ways of using MNG in that browser (like using a QuickTime MNG component for example). You can find out more informations on MNG and libmng web sites.

Of course, since the libmng license "specifically permit[s], without fee, and encourage[s] the use of this source code as a component to supporting the MNG and JNG file format in commercial products," there is absolutely no excuse why libmng shouldn't be used natively by Microsoft Internet Explorer. Of course, a detailed specification of the MNG format is freely available, so anyone can support MNG even without using libmng, which makes it absolutely unacceptable to not support MNG in any modern web browser. If you use Microsoft Internet Explorer I would suggest you sending a feature request, or even a bug report, asking them to add native MNG support.

And is there any way to convert XCF (GIMP's format) to MNG?

convert file.xcf file.mng

Use ImageMagick, which is, in my opinion, the best "robust collection of tools and libraries (...) to read, write, and manipulate an image in many image formats (over 87 major formats)." You can also write

convert -delay 100 frame*.png anim.mng

and make a MNG animation anim.mng from individual frames frame01.png, frame02.png, etc. That way you don't have to use multilayer file format as your input. ImageMagick is great for such uses.

If you don't want to give up the look of IE, try the IE skin.

Here is some freindly advice from the now updated pheonix .5 feature list:

"0.5 is certainly our fastest release ever. You might especially notice a boost if you have a blank page (about:blank) as your homepage (UPDATE: We're talking about startup and new window performance. If you thought we were talking about the time it takes to render a blank page, go out back and shoot yourself; you're a detriment to human society.)"

Are these guys great or what?

From the FAQ:

You said this was designed to be cross-platform. Where's the mac version?

Designed to be cross-platform doesn't mean we offer a build on every platform, it just means the code itself works anywhere. We don't officially offer Phoenix for Mac, but some people have already begun experimenting with mac versions (see this page. We may consider officially releasing Phoenix for Mac in the future, but we want to focus on Windows and Linux for now.

From Phoenix 0.5 Release Notes - Known Issues:
"Folders in the history sidebar are presented in an illogical order."

Now, it would not be the first time a major discovery is treated as an "experimental error" for years. A function that manages to consistently analise and display a given chunck of data in an illogical order regardless of the data previous ordering would be a major advancement in Artificial Intelligence. I hope someone knowledgeable looks deeper into this matter before it is forgotten...

Unfortunately not very well known, you can easily override all CSS, effectively disabling as much as you want. Customizing Mozilla, completely applicable to Phoenix. This page covers a lot. Place overriding CSS rules on userContent.css, with '!important' after the rules, before the semicolon. Opera provides for this mechanism very well.

Soemtimes less is more and I really wish they would stop adding useless features to web browsers. How about a webbrowser which only has forward, back, stop, refresh, address line and bookmarks.

It's not like these two are competing technologies.

Actually, they are. Phoenix FirstView Connect is a stripped-down web browser. Mozilla.org Phoenix is a stripped-down web browser.

Phoenix is a straight up IE killer

And Phoenix Technologies' product is a straight up Pocket IE killer. So will be Gecko, once the Weenies reduce its footprint.

I kept hearing that you were changing the name from Phoenix to something else. What happened?

That was just a giant publicity stunt. We've observed that in the past, the open-source community has instinctively favored David when big corporations complain of trademark infringement. We wanted to cash in on this sympathy by asking the community to send us money to fight the legal battle (obviously we'd really spend it on cool stuff), but with all the taxing issues and whatnot we decided to can the idea.

Uhhhh...really?

No, not really. This isn't like an action flick where the evil madman reveals the intricacies of his plans to hostages and then leaves them alone with a bomb set to detonate in like 10 hours. When we're ripping you off, we won't explain how in the FAQ. The truth is that we'd already had this 0.5 released planned for awhile, so it was okay to release under the Phoenix name. But under no circumstances will any future release be called Phoenix.

1.- What can I do to help?
We need all the distribution we can get. Tell your family. Tell your friends. Tell your coworkers. If you're a student, get it distributed at your college. Submit a story to Slashdot and other news sites about the release. Make some noise on your blog. Spread the word!

::..."just as easy to close the browser."
:You obviously haven't been to any porn sites

You are obviously using Explorer. Get a real browser.;)

Try the Phoenix project instead. It really is decent, even on my slow-as-hell P!!! 500.

And it's mozilla, too.

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> Still slower than IE
I ran some tests on a 500K HTML document served off of my hard drive. Chimera loaded it in 15 seconds. IE took 20.

> Crashes even more than mozilla did
Have you tried the Nightly Builds?

The last mozilla.org status update report covered this. It says that January 8, 2003 (scheduled release of Mozilla 1.3beta) will be the deadline to find an owner for the QT Mozilla port.

Internet Explorer 5.2.1 [...] Most reliable renderer; good performance; great standards support.

Um, what? If this were true, then why would Apple make an article documenting the IE's shortcomings? Also, on the subject of verions, why do they test version 0.5 of Chimera? 0.6 is much better and has been out since November 4th. It's a month later! The tested version of IE is 5.2.1, but on my machine I have 5.2.2. The modification date is October 3rd. This article is dated.

Also why didn't the article address security? I seem to recall a problem with IE in that when it would download .hqx files it would automatically execute them. Granted it doesn't do this anymore, but it shows IE has a bad track record.

Chimera or Links.

Chimera is a fast lightweight (unlike Mozilla) browser using Gecko layout engine and Cocoa user interface. Links on the otherhand is an excellent text browser. Sadly neither one was in the review.

*lbrt

>
A fast IE with tabs that is not a Microsoft product would be great.
>

Oh, you mean like Chimera?

It has tabs, and it usually renders pages slightly faster than Mozilla.

Well, the solution is easy. Download Mozilla 1.2 and when you see one of those pesky banners, right click it and select "Block images from this Server". Your bandwith is reduced and your eyes get a rest.

Yeah, and then there's that other dead OS, OS/2...Oh, wait

There has been a bug in the turbo feature for a while. If you close the last mozilla window, mozilla will basically restart which will cause thrashing on lower memory systems. The workaround seems to be not closing the last window..

Why would you unload Mozilla?

http://www.mozilla.org/releases/

Scroll down looking for "Net Installer" .

As usual, source tarballs will be released some days after.
In the meanwhile, get the source from CVS (The tag is MOZILLA_1_2_1_RELEASE)

I didn't see that the NTLM proxy problem was fixed on Bugzilla (23679), but I am sending this from Mozilla 1.2.1 and it is going through my company NTLM proxy! Before I had to run a python script that I found on Freshmeat (Python Script) in order to get it to go through. It now appears that Mozilla finally has it built in.