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Also See..the Mozillazine story and commentary, the SEWatch story and the Neowin story.
No mention from Google on this yet.
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Re:Uhh...wow?
This would be like me forking GCC then when 100 developers get a cool release out of my fork I take credit for it.
No, it would be like you forking GCC then, when 100 developers get a cool release out of your fork, the media writes simplistic articles giving you credit for it. :P
Blake Ross readily admits that he gets too much credit from the media. Read his comments on this blog post if you want to see his take. -
Blogs in open-source as a way of communication
I think it's great that this kind of phenomenen starts to happen in open source. Asa Dotzler is trilled as well. According to this, he thought "blogs would become a more important tool in Mozilla communications, offering a new level of insight and transparency".
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Re:Still a few sites on some software I need IE foThere is also an Active X plugin for Firefox (which works with that site) if you have to use that site, but if a site really needs Active X I would avoid it like the plague (as it allows the execution of arbitary code from WWW pages).
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Re:At the risk of revealing a proclivity ...
You can even use an optimized build if you wish to. I use this one, and the difference is very noticeable.
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Re:Google is pretty unique.
But then again, maybe mozilla saves an other day as in:
http://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=5 908
You can run things from an usb stick. No installation required.. -
Re:Memory Leaks
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Re:The No.1 feature I want in Firefox
heres a working link, do'h!
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=1645 13 -
Re:Who has firefox affectd my use of Mozilla?
> If they added in full Active-X support it'd be the perfect browser.
Here you go.
Not sure if it counts as "full", but if you have an intranet type app you need to support, that might work. You can build Mozilla (not firebird IIRC) with Automation (IDispatch) scripting, which should let you script controls with javascript, otherwise you can host the control but not script it. It's still pretty painful to build Mozilla on Windows, but at least all the tools for doing so are now free.
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Other 2.0 Plans...
Also check out Brendan Eich's Mozilla 2.0 must-haves and the Firefox 2.0 Roadmap.
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Re:Misleading Article
#638, huh? It'd be a shame if you left now.
Anyhoo, regarding color schemes, I ran across this the other day...
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=1853 93
Haven't tried it, but it looks pretty basic.
As for the crew, I'm currently working on an extension to replace michael's rants with underscores.
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Quick! Somebody submit a story!
Anyone good at writing up story submissions?
Time to troll Slashdot! Seriously...Given that all three bugs are ALREADY fixed, it shouldn't be too hard to sneak a 'troll' story by about how the Mozilla foundation responded instanteously to these bug reports.
Use this urlhttp://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?articl e=5844 for the nntp flaw, and link to the same security focus article regarding the other two.
Why? Because the security article tells you to update your mozilla based software to the latest version to avoid these no-longer-existing.
And excellent opportunity to troll the story submission queue, and given the cluelessness of slashdot editors, it should be pretty easy to sneak it by. -
Re:Why Doesn't Slashdot Give Credit?
As the AC that submitted it, I heard about it here, but went through and did all the linking and such myself. (There are links in that blog, and while some are the same, I did my own searching/gathering and did not cut/paste.)
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Re:Go-faster tweak for FirefoxAlso linked to from the boingboing article, some reasons why these tweaks might not be a good idea:
Yes, enabling HTTP pipelining can dramatically improve networking performance. The downside, and the reason it's not enabled by default, is that it can prevent Web pages from displaying correctly.
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/00716
The second change, setting the initial paint delay at zero, may get you some content on the screen faster, but it's worth noting that it will dramatically slow down the time it takes the entire page to display.4 .html -
documentation sucksI spent a few months this year writing probably one of the most complicated and hairy Firefox extensions out there. The documentation in XUL-land, including (or especially) the books, is pretty poor. There's plenty of info, but an astonishing amount of it is outdated, and there's nobody to tell you what pages are outdated and what pages are not. There are pages on mozilla.org that are years old and say "this information is subject to change, watch this space".
For example, the most difficult thing for me was trying to figure out how to package up my XUL/JS in a form that Firefox would take it. All the tutorials talked about install.js, installed-chrome.txt, and regxpcom, all of which are outdated. (Hint: Since Firefox 0.9, install.rdf is the key to the whole thing, so any tutorial that doesn't mention it is outdated.)
Once you've gotten the basics (probably by reading the O'Reilly book--the Nigel MacFarlane book may have a lot of useful info, but it was so poorly written I couldn't get through it), you really want to do yourself a favor and install Venkman, the Javascript debugger. The only place I've been able to find that has this little gem for Firefox is here.
Then, as you inevitably run into walls trying to get things done in the browser, cozy up to the source. There's not much you can do with XUL/JS that hasn't already been done in the Firefox source, and the search tools available on LXR will often lead you right to them.
And here are some source files you're definitely going to need to look at:
browser main window
browser menus and commands
browser main logicAlso, shamelessly unzip and dissect other people's XPI's; they probably won't mind anyway.
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Re:A start
mozillaZine is a great resource too. Especially the knowledge base , forum, and #mozillazine on irc.mozilla.org
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Re:A start
mozillaZine is a great resource too. Especially the knowledge base , forum, and #mozillazine on irc.mozilla.org
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Re:A start
mozillaZine is a great resource too. Especially the knowledge base , forum, and #mozillazine on irc.mozilla.org
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Not Just Announced
While I have no problem with Slashdot posting old, but still relevant and interesting pieces of news, I must object to the use of 'just announced'. I read about this over a month ago!
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Re:Yeah, right.
I wish to god IE would do the same thing with Browser Helper Objects, and any ActiveX objects for that matter.
IE does, in fact it was implemented in IE first (with betas of SP2) - Firefox copied them.
"it's almost a carbon copy of the new Internet Explorer Information Bar" -
Re:Lots of free press, gotta do something about it
Actually the mozilla.org is taking big steps. The "engine" of Firefox has been greatly improved since the Firefox1.0 branch separate from main code chunk. Like mozilla1.8a5 and mozilla1.8a4. Or you can get information about how many bugs got fixed every day from mozillazine forum.
Overall, the mozilla is under heavy development, and no "comfort zone" for such an open source project.
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Re:Why I still use Mozilla...
I hate the small size of the box I'm given to enter my search terms.
You can make the search bar wider by editng your userChrome.css file as described here. Of course, there's no point to manually tweaking Firefox like this if you're happy with Mozilla.
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Firefox users can try the plugin
I don't know how happy google is about this, but there is already a FF extension to put suggest in the toolbar. Great plugin and also amazing how fast somebody implemented it!
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Re:Higher resolution image?
Mozillazine has a link. Go to their page here. It is in pdf and is about 700KB. All of the names are readable if you zoom in. http://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=
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A barrier to leaving is also a barrier to entry
I was just reading this blog about how Gmail's forwarding (and later, POP3) actually detracts from Google's ideas behind Gmail. If you just forward all your mail to another account or download it to your your mail client, you're not seeing their ads (which they use to support the service).
However, by having that option, they're providing a way to try the service risk-free. If they don't like the Gmail web interface, they can forward everything to Hotmail and forget Gmail ever existed, without having to tell everyone to switch back to their old email address. The fact that they can leave Gmail easily makes it easier for them to try Gmail in the first place. Try to lock them in before they become your customers, and you'll just lock them out.
Likewise, "Linux" programs on Windows allow people to try out non-proprietary stuff without the commitment of wiping everything they have and starting over with a new OS. It will be much easier to migrate a user from Windows to Linux who uses Firefox, Thunderbird, Gaim, and OpenOffice over one who uses IE, Outlook, AIM/ICQ/MSN/YIM, and MS Office. If a user finds that they can do everything they need with all these "Linux" programs, they're quite likely to realize that they can use Linux instead of Windows. These ports may slow down migration at first, but when they're looking at a new PC or Windows eats itself again, they'll probably be a lot more likely to at least consider Linux.
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Re:Make love, not war...
Next thing we hear "Slashdot has fewer fags than Aimgirl."
The average number of fags in 1,000 people is 0.23 at Aimgirl, but 999.969 (excluding the GNAA) at Slashdot.
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MSN Search Toolbar; Copernic Desktop; Firefox
I wish I could check out its local computer search functionality, but it won't install on Windows Server 2003.
But I saw on Mozillazine that the just released Copernic Desktop Search 1.2 supports Mozilla Firefox. So I'm checking that out now, and it seem pretty cool.
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MSN Search Toolbar; Copernic Desktop; Firefox
I wish I could check out its local computer search functionality, but it won't install on Windows Server 2003.
But I saw on Mozillazine that the just released Copernic Desktop Search 1.2 supports Mozilla Firefox. So I'm checking that out now, and it seem pretty cool.
I hope Google updates there desktop search soon to index Firefox's history as well as more file formats such as PDF and OpenOffice.org files. -
Surely we can reach small devices.
I mean, if Mozilla can be ported to the Amiga, surely I can run it on my shiny new Treo 650.
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Re:Great!
I like Safari as much as the next guy, but I've started to find myself using Firefox G5 more and more. It's a G5-optimized version of Firefox. (There's also a G4 version for more recent G4s)
Frankly, it's a lot faster than Safari and does its thing with less processor load. Every time I use Safari to go to an SSL page or a page with heavy javascript my processor fans ramp up from 300/300 rpm to 2000/1000 rpm. The same pages with FFG5 (or even just FF) do not cause the fan speeds to change at all.
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Google Suggest
Speaking of firefox. They already have an extension for google suggest Check it out:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=1821 86
i see some problems with it but it has potential..
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Internet Explorer not required
Just do the same thing described here:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=1672 60 -
German Firefox was spyware
Fixed now due to complaints
It wasn't a third party download either. It was the version you got directly from Mozilla and the spyware part wasn't an option, it was part of the package.
If I find out a piece of software I need has spyware I run AdAware to clean it up and if that doesn't fix it, I uninstall the program when I'm done with whatever I was using it for and find something else.
If the program is up front about it and isn't an obnoxious little whore about it, I'll let it slide. Google Toolbar is spyware but it's nothing I object to and nothing I can't opt out of. eDonkey decided to infect Windows with a pain in the butt to remove browser hijack so that will never be used again. Apparently the ads weren't good enough for them. I finished what I started downloading and completely removed eDonkey and cleaned up the spyware.
If Mozilla had been up front about their spyware in the German version of the browser, they wouldn't have had such a negative reaction. All they had to do was make it an option and point out that it helps fund the foundation to try to persuade people to use it. But, instead they decided to use typical spyware tactics and tried to slip it in under the radar without the user's consent.
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Extension for Firefox
Don't miss out the wonderful WeatherFox extension for Firefox... crafteh coded this marvel after a suggestion of mine on Mozillazine Forums. International Forecast in your statusbar. Can't beat that!
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SpreadFirefox
Firefox has been a 100% grass-roots effort to date. SpreadFirefox.com, the site devoted to informing people about Firefox's benefits over IE, has 35,000 members, basically volunteers that provide free advertising.
Everything is not well though. They are being a little too secretive about the status of the NYT ad, which garnered $250,000 from the community. Threads have begun to pop up about what exactly happened to the ad, and some people are starting to whisper "refund":
http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=node/view/4700
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Review of PFF & PTBI've been using these since I heard of them almost two months ago. My USB device is a TinyDisk 256MB. Here are some pros and cons with regard to the original builds:
Pros:- Bookmarks, settings, and extensions will follow you wherever you go
- If the drive has a locking mechanism, can probably be used on insecure machines (I haven't actually tried this)
Cons:- Having to remember the USB stick
:-) - Slow startup
- Bookmark insertion, moving, deleting, etc. lag at some points (1-2 seconds on my disk)
- Waiting time after shutting down the applications before you can unplug the drive safely
- "Manual" installation of plug-ins and extensions
A few tips:- Get a USB drive which is fast for writing small files
- To be able to create shortcuts to the drive, ensure that the drive letter doesn't change by going to Start -> Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Computer Management -> Storage -> Disk Management, right-click the drive and select "Change drive letter and paths", and set to "Z"
- It is possible to enable disk cache on another disk, but you have to purge it manually
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Still Windows Only?
In the MozillaZine Forum, many discussed putting the win32 and linux binaries on a single stick & having them share profiles. Might as well throw in the Mac binaries too & then you'd have something really useful!
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Re:Localisation
Is there any way I can persuade it do display them in either D/M/Y...?
My TBird does it "by default", which probably means I set it circa v0.3 and it's been the same ever since! However, this looks like what you're after.
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Re:Thunderbird + Norton = :(
Here is a link to the FAQ on this issue: http://kb.mozillazine.org/index.phtml?title=Thund
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What's New In 1.0
It's not yet on mozilla.org (or I missed it) but you can read on http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=102
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What's New In 1.0
Significant theme improvements for all platforms.
Migration improvements for Outlook 2003, Eudora and Mozilla Suite users.
Fix for a 0.9 regression on Mac OS X when creating folders with non ascii characters.
Saved Search Folder Improvements (i.e. lots of bug fixes)
Message Grouping Improvements (i.e. lots of bug fixes)
Improved RSS support (i.e. lots of bug fixes)
Improved support for Multiple Identities for an account.
Improved Account Central for Windows and Linux
Improvements to Global Inbox, in particular how we manage filters.
Fix problems creating folders with semicolons or # signs in the name
Stability Improvements
POP3 Filters can now filter messages to IMAP folders
RSS Feeds that require http authentication now work in Thunderbird
Fix an issue on Mac OS X where you could not paste text from Microsoft Word into the compose window
Offline UI is now installed by default for Windows (it already was for Linux and Mac OS X)
New quick search bar for address book and mail compose contacts sidebar.
Deleting a saved search folder now prompts you before it gets deleted.
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Re:A couple of things:
2. It would be really cool to have automatic virtual directories. I have my email sorted into subfolder by email address. I have rules set up to put emails into folders. Why not have this be automatic? Sort by email address, sort by folders. I wonder why no popular email client has this.
I use this feature in Thunderbird all the time. To "group" your inbox by sender: select the Inbox, sort the messages by sender by clicking on the column heading, and then hit the "g" button on your keyboard. This will sort your messages into the "automatic virtual directories" you speak of. Click another column heading to return to the unsorted view. Apparently this also works for sorting your messages according to priority, sender, recipient, status, subject, or label. -
Re:A couple of things:
It would be really cool to have automatic virtual directories. I have my email sorted into subfolder by email address. I have rules set up to put emails into folders. Why not have this be automatic?
Saved Search Folders is exactly, precisely what you want, and it's in Thunderbird right now. It's an insanely great feature.
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Re:Thunderbird is missing something
I have recently moved a client Off thunderbird due to issues. Refer here http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=171
0 10 for my post to the Tunderbird forums. Here is the summary of the issues from my message for those too lazy to click on the link- No spell check suggester
- Limited signatures - Only one per account and no way to insert during editing a message. A pain for us who use signatures as an Autotext/proforma facility.
- Searching for emails - In OE and other mail clients when the list is sorted by Sender clicking M will take you to the first M entry.
- Formatting HTML emails - You cannot select HTML text and then set to the same text size from the formatting toolbar, you must go through the menu (Format > Size > Medium)
I still use it myself as a preference.
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MozillaZine Review
They tear it to pieces.
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Re:Perfect Name for a Ripoff Artist
Perhaps, but the fact of five million people switching to Firefox over Internet Explorer, I don't think it's gonna be that big of a deal.
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Even betterYou can configure FireFix to run from a keychain USB drive.
Add an autorun.inf to fire up firefox.exe (with command-line switches -- see the first link's discussion) automatically upon insert and you're good to go.
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Re:not much...
Do you think so?????