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Funny that we're both right, isn't it: http://editorial.autos.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=788126 ("Serious" is the important distinction here.)

Sunscreen too? "When Michener pressed school officials on the ban, they told her that there is a state-wide policy that does not allow staff to apply sunscreen to students, and students can only apply it themselves if they have a doctorâ(TM)s note. The law exists because the additives in lotions and sunscreens can cause an allergic reaction in children, and sunscreens are regulated by the FDA as an over-the-counter drug. Michener discovered that the policy exists in 49 states nationwide; California is the only state to allow sunscreen in school without a doctorâ(TM)s note."

http://todayhealth.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/25/12397171-mom-challenges-school-sunscreen-ban-after-daughters-are-severely-burned

Because never in all of history has someone in America been arrested without good reason. And certainly no one has ever been charged with "resisting arrest" and nothing else.

For example:
http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_13686438
http://articles.philly.com/2010-06-29/news/24962922_1_wawa-officers-civilians

And your word of caution. No it doesn't matter if you are right. If I shoot a cop who was trying to arrest me without valid cause, the fact that he didn't have a valid cause isn't going to stop the "large body of law enforcement officers out to cease my free movement". Just look at the cases of the non-knock warrant being served on the wrong house and the people inside doing what you say and getting shot because they dared defend themselves.

For example:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18328267/
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95475

Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell publicly denounced the use of all modern medicine to save lives? Or is it that they have specific objections to specific technology (which is what my point was, and why the GP's position was such a strawman)?

Again, your post demands a big, fat, [citation needed].

The GP was not attempting to refute the statement that there were moderate Christians, and not refuting anything actually. The GP attempted to add the characterization of loud to what that poster was claiming was an "insignificant" group.

Without refutation, you cannot have a strawman. Now, I will admit it was terse and probably acerbic, but it is nonetheless accurate and insightful. It does not matter that the group of Christians is claimed to be small and not representative of the majority viewpoint if they are so "loud" that they seemingly represent a majority viewpoint in the media, and a significant representation in legislation and policy.

As for citations,

News story about Pat Robertson's organization

Interview by Pat Robertson of a Doctors book on bioethics in which he aligns himself with viewpoints supporting my characterization of him being against stem cell research

Jerry Falwell obit summarizing position against stem cell research

Another news story that expands upon the position in the obit

I could go on... but their position on stem cell research and bioethics is well known and based only the Bible. Although, Mr. Falwell was specific about a 3-part test including ethics, morality, and the Bible. Ethics is meaningless since it is just a lump of flesh freely given and whatever considerations for right and wrong are not derived from any inherent universal truth or logic. Morals in this instance are derived from the Bible and not from any distinct philosophy or culture. So really it just a Biblical test.

Also, "people who identify as christian" is absolutely worthless as a category. Check some of the polling stats to see how incredibly diverse that "category" is, from protestants to mormons to unitarians to people who went to church once back in '94. I think one poll had 75% identifying as christian, but only some 50% identifying Christ as the son of God, and even fewer believing in a personal God. I have no doubt that you can find self-identified christians who are in favor of just about anything you could think of.

That's kind of the whole point. The GP was stating that those Christians who opposed stem cell research were just a minority. Well, just about anybody can identify as Christian and sell their morality as the so-called correct derivation of Biblical truth. Heck, even the majority of KKK members claim to be Christian and can derive their racism from Biblical truth.

It is those who do so the loudest that are at issue here.

What do you know, Im one of them, because I dont think you can be a christian and have a subjective morality; it must be based on SOMETHING. That doesnt mean I deny the use of any modern medicine.

That sounds contradictory.

Without trying to offend you, I believe that all morality derived from the Bible is more or less subjective. By that, I mean that other than some universal truths in the Bible, most of the morals derived from it seem pretty damned arbitrary to me and mostly just related to the culture at that time.

The fact you mention subjective morality indicates to me that you are a thoughtful Christian and your faith is constructed by carefully reasoned interpretations of the Bible. Much better than some idiot just parrotin

Without realistic battery life estimates and a price this might have well be Vaporware.

Why? Fan-boys seem well prepared to forgive Apple for any battery problems. Why is it suddenly an issue for Microsoft?

Check out Genspace" in New York City. Started by a student and now a significant small research lab for the enthusiast, it has quite a good selection of equipment and resources. Some was purchased second hand from ebay and other professional labs donating older equipment. Some of the materials have been donated from local and even not so local schools. Finally a lot of the materials have been purchased by the enthusiasts themselves. You'd be amazed at what these folks are doing. Both inspiring and a wee bit unnerving (there's so much we don't know, and mistakes could be costly), though I tend to think these guys are even more cautious than some professionals, and that if there ever is a really ugly accident, it will probably come from a pro lab, cutting corners in disposing of bio-waste.

Just in case anyone has a question about the last comment you can look here to see that business as usual where biohazards are concerned is a nasty game of Russian Roulette, and we'll all be the losers.

The assassinations appear to be the Mossad + MEK.

http://rockcenter.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/09/10354553-israel-teams-with-terror-group-to-kill-irans-nuclear-scientists-us-officials-tell-nbc-news?lite

I would be surprised if the CIA was involved with the MEK directly. My guess the U.S. provides intel and support with drones and looks the other way while Israel does the dirty work with Stuxnet/Flame/Assassinations.

Israel even seems to want credit for Stuxnet:
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2012/06/israeli-spies-want-credit-stuxnet/53354/

Its a really nice surprise to see a competent covert operation against a target that deserves it. I honestly didn't think our government or Israel's had it in them anymore.

Anecdotal, sure, but check out the recent Republican senate primary in Nebraska. Dark horse beat two better-funded alternatives.

Poppycock.

The US is the #1 manufacturing nation in the world.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41349653/ns/business-us_business/t/despite-chinas-might-us-factories-maintain-edge/#.T86u08WaTtw

And it's enjoying a resurgence in manufacturing.

http://blog.equipnet.com/2012/05/16/boston-consulting-group-forecasts-resurgence-in-u-s-manufacturing/

I know, it's too easy, but seriously Mitt?

Or "a fire to be Nookd" if the book of quotes is from Barnes & Noble.

or land on a chunk of useless rock, last for a few days eating fish or crabs, then dying a slow horrible death from dehydration and exposure.

Worse -- in Soviet Kiribati, crabs eat you.

DEA has had license plate reading cameras on U.S. highways for a while. In particular they record every car on some routes in California, Texas, Arizona and recently Utah using ELSAG cameras though they usually make no attempt to hide them.

They analyze the data looking for people transporting drugs from the Mexican border among other things. Maybe they are just expanding the program to watch the traffic along the northern border too.

So, yea welcome to the big brother police state, we've been in it a while now. Say cheese!!

The AC who replied before you linked to it. http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/flame-cyberweapon-written-using-gamer-code-report-says/2012/05/31/gJQAkIB83U_story.html

Mea culpa, I missed the "Fox reported" in it, but still.

When I first heard Angry Birds linked to it was on The Register well before the MSM even had it on radar. This was on Tuesday. Here's the URL: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/29/flame_cyberweapon_analysis/

Note that their subtitle on it is: "But it shares same scripting tech as Angry Birds"

As linked in another of the comments, the lua and gaming link was done by MSNBC as well. http://redtape.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/30/11962850-was-flame-virus-written-by-cyberwarriors-or-gamers?lite

None of that is really suprising. Its an area where most of the general populace don't have a lot of existing knowledge or experience to link it to. Angry Birds is very well known and kind of a seeming irony to be written in the same language.

My point is largely that with all of the things Fox can be criticized for, this is pretty small beer.

Har. What, like VISA and other credit cards, debit cards, and Bitcoin?

The best they can do is lower the fraud rates. But "cannot be counterfeited" is probably an impossible standard.

See http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/07/13/7078446-spacex-chief-aims-for-mars?lite

Close. Whether you have an account or not, FB is mining whatever they can get from you.

This is yet another mobile phone I'd rather not get.

I thought this comment from Buzz Aldrin was pretty cool:

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/25/11881043-space-milestone-sparks-high-praise?lite

"This weekâ(TM)s successful launch and delivery of logistics supplies to the International Space Station by a U.S. commercial space company reminds us that where the entrepreneurial interests of the private sector are aligned with NASAâ(TM)s mission to explore, America wins. Falcon 9â(TM)s maiden flight to ISS â" and the other commercial space launches that lie ahead â" represent the dawn of a new era in space exploration. Nearly 43 years after we first walked on the moon, we have taken another step in demonstrating continued American leadership in space."

This is why I never bought the whole "we should leave more things up to the states to decide" line of argument: as bad as the US Congress is, state legislatures are generally solidly worse; they just don't get as much press. Or maybe this is just a New York thing and other states are different, I don't know.

Illinois, that is all.(And I found that article with a twenty second search.)

Too Hot To Work at a Lingerie Shop? (No I'm just too old.)

http://lifeinc.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/22/11812107-too-hot-to-work-at-a-lingerie-shop?lite

WTF!?!?

If the blonde chick in the article picture is the one asking the question, I think we can all easily answer no!!.

She's too old, ugly face and pudgy to be 'too hot' for anything...especially lingerie. Unless said lingerie was for heavy set women...and even with that...she's not what anyone would say was "hot" upon first glance at her.....ugh!!

NBC News isn't any better:
Too Hot To Work at a Lingerie Shop? (No I'm just too old.)
http://lifeinc.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/22/11812107-too-hot-to-work-at-a-lingerie-shop?lite

Kinect's five most ridiculous moments

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3071886/ns/news-special_coverage/t/double-life-marc-rich/#.T7cmautYugg

Why isn't my time zone highlighted on the world map?

In the original release of Windows 95, you could change your time zone by clicking on the map, and the time zone you selected would highlight. Similarly, you could change your Region Settings by clicking on the world map. This was one of those little touches that made Windows 95 that much more fun to use.

But we had to remove those features within months of release, even though we based both of the maps on the borders officially recognized by the United Nations.

In early 1995, a border war broke out between Peru and Ecuador and the Peruvian government complained to Microsoft that the border was incorrectly placed. Of course, if we complied and moved the border northward, we'd get an equally angry letter from the Ecuadorian government demanding that we move it back. So we removed the feature altogether.

The time zone map met a similar fate. The Indian government threatened to ban all Microsoft software from the country because we assigned a disputed region to Pakistan in the time zone map. (Any map that depicts an unfavorable border must bear a government stamp warning the end-user that the borders are incorrect. You can't stamp software.) We had to make a special version of Windows 95 for them.

Geopolitics is a very sensitive subject.

Google gets entangled in Taiwan-China dispute

Google Inc.'s popular online mapping service has become entangled in a long-running territorial dispute between China and Taiwan.

Until recently, Google's maps described Taiwan as a "province of China." That sparked protests from Taiwan's government, which has considered its island an independent state since ending a civil war with China more than a half-century ago.

Shortly after Taiwan's foreign ministry formally complained, the China reference abruptly disappeared from Google's Taiwan map last week. That change has provoked cries of dismay in China and talk of a possible boycott of Google's service in that country, according to Chinese media.

If I recall correctly, Microsoft also faced the same issue after they suggested Taiwan was somehow an independent nation in locale settings, but they changed it after the Chinese government complained.

Facebook is caught between a rock and a hard place with regard to user privacy. They already take a lot of flack from users who don't like what they perceive as Facebook's lax privacy protection. Facebook can't simply dilute it further without risking a flood of protest from its users. It can't afford that. That's not to mention the various state and federal privacy regulations already in place that will also constrain them.

No, they simply cannot dilute it further because it's as diluted as it could possibly be, if this comment on msnbc.com is to be believed.

(I thought that was below even Facebook to do, so I was floored when I read that. I guess the "cookies" Chris mentions could be a rogue keylogger system or Evercookie from some ad or whatever, but that's more my desperate hope for Internet users' sake than a hypothesis.)

From the sound of it, it was just 10-15 students they all accused of the same thing

I haven't seen a report saying that they are students. But, regardless, how do we actually know they are innocent? There have been numerous targeted bombings and assassinations of Iranian scientists and academics. Some organised "terrorist" group has murdered these people, and others have supplied that group with information, weapons, money, safehouses etc. If this were happening in the U.S. - if American scientists and academics were being murdered by a foreign terrorist group - then Americans would be demanding justice, including assasinations and detention without trial. Maybe this man is innocent, but this dirty war is not. There are spies operating in Iran, and they will obviously claim that they are innocent if they get caught.

Zahiri's accusation is contact with Mojahedin-e Khalgh Organization (completely unrelated to the Mossad).

Mossad Caught Running MEK Assassinations of Iranian Scientists
Mossad hit-squads behind Iran scientists' murders - US official
Israel teams with terror group to kill Iran's nuclear scientists, U.S. officials tell NBC News

It doesn't help the "we're innocent" argument when U.S. officials have openly called for MEK to not be classified as a terrorist group, and the U.S. military has allegedly provided MEK with material assistance and special forces training.

> There are no such things as filters precise enough to isolate the GPS signals from the Lightsquared signals. Not even close. They don't exist today, and they can't be made with today's technology.

Not true. It is possible make a filter precise enough to isolate GPS signals from Lightsquared signals with today's technology, but it's expensive and bulky to do so. A number of higher-end GPS units had no problem with Lightsquared signals for just that reason. Lightsquared used those results to try and blame GPS manufacturers, in fact, but the FCC didn't buy it. Expecting everyone to be okay with suddenly having to pay hundreds more for a working GPS unit and not having GPS available in cell phones (after mandating that GPS be available in cell phones by the end of 2005) wasn't happening.

Of course, if you can convince everyone that it's cool to pay a few grand to carry around something like this, maybe bulky and expensive wouldn't be such a problem. I don't see that happening either.

Blah, blah, blah, blah. You're talking about the same Republicans that were for giant bank bailouts before they were against them, and who still happily vote for huge ag and oil subsidies and over a trillion dollars a year in military spending. And now $6 billion is going to break the bank?

Laughable.

I noticed you didn't bother with the "job killing taxes on small businesses" crap - because you gave up, or because you remembered that when Republicans say "small business", they don't mean mom & pop operations. They mean Koch fucking Industries because by "small business" they don't mean small as in profits or small as in number of employees, but small in the number of owners.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42134880/ns/world_news-asia_pacific/t/tokyo-flights-trigger-radiation-detectors/
The system worked as sold the the US gov.
Nothing was done ;)
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-03-17/business/ct-biz-0318-airport-radiation--20110317_1_radiation-detectors-american-airlines-cargo

"Do you think climatologists haven't heard or the Panama strait closing and the effect it had on global ocean circulation?"

Wouldn't surprise me. They hadn't heard plants eat CO2: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/08/new_model_doubled_co2_sub_2_degrees_warming/

Or that cosmic rays cause global cooling and glaciation: http://rs79.vrx.net/opinions/ideas/climate/poles/

Or the pesky carbon-13 dilemma: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrI03ts--9I

Or that's it's not good to lie: http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/23/11144098-gaia-scientist-james-lovelock-i-was-alarmist-about-climate-change

WTF is a climate scientist anyway? In 1985 climate research and climate scientists appeared out of nowhere. Where did they get their training? Where did they get their attitude nobody else was qualified to talk about this?

I think they're just failed scientists from other fields who were good at getting funding and the nuclear industry was all too happy to help out.

Given how much Hansen has been caught lying I'm surpised anybody listens to him. How do you know he's not lying now?

Conservatives are evil. Don't be one.

http://hardincountyconservatives.blogspot.com/2012/05/greg-abbott-wins-appeal-tx-ban-on.html

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110614035520AApWGtA

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-02-13/news/31054067_1_professors-obscenity-first-bill

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/the-rachel-maddow-show/43388331#43388331

http://www.mediaite.com/online/michelle-bachmann-signs-social-conservative-pro-marriage-pledge-that-also-bans-porn/

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/rick-santorum-wants-ban-hardcore-pornography-222833811.html

http://www.newsinenglish.no/2012/05/07/conservatives-back-ban-on-begging/

http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2010/11/wyomings_self-described_conser.html

http://stfuconservatives.net/post/19427221927

Since they are not,

ORLY? http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/02/23/6115591-palestinian-house-inside-cage-in-jewish-settlement?lite

This is a very reasonable point you make. If you read the article I linked, there is a graph specifically detailing digital single sales revenue which doesn't really factor until 2003 when the decline was already in effect for about four years. In reality it's probably partly the availability of songs a-la-carte and partly piracy. The financial reversal, whatever the cause may be, is striking. [q.v. Michael DeGusta's adjusted graph]

It may well be overblown. I believe the industry will recover. Legal alternatives to piracy like iTunes look extremely promising. Still, I find the lets-do-away-with-copyright rhetoric pretty simplistic and those who espouse it seem to have no inkling of music industry economics (at least historically speaking). I find the self-styled copyright revolutionaries who feel entitled to free content to be especially grating. And, like everyone else, I find the suits and fat cats at RIAA and MPAA to be delusional, short-sighted, and in many cases downright evil (David Geffen is a good example).

the massive workload in the ER comes from illegal aliens who use the ER for every little sniffle they get, and people who look like drug addicts looking for a fix.

Christ, man, how can you know they're illegal? Or even aliens? You do realise that 16% of American citizens are Hispanic, don't you? And if you live in a border state there's going to be an even higher percentage?

Those "people who look like drug addicts looking for a fix" are called "poor people". Both they and the Hispanics you seem to hate are at the ER because that's the only way the working poor can get health care in the US!

One in four Americans' only health care is the ER. If you want to end those long waits, lobby your congresscritter for Canadian or European style health care (NOT Obamacare) so those "illegal aliens" and "homeless junkies" don't have to "use the ER for every little sniffle they get".

PS: You're a God damned racist and classist bastard and I hope you learn what poverty feels like.

Oddly enough this only happens if you make them use bing search on a page.

The problem with political discourse in the US is that people always have to be on a team and can't think objectively like you just did.

No, the real problem with political discourse in the US is that too many people think what you think here, and they are too susceptible to confirmation bias. So complete scumbags can get away with enacting a policy for partisan political gain, as long as they accuse the other party's opposition to their policy as being for partisan political gain. By doing so, the provide a narrative that fits your preconceptions about how politics works and brings both sides down to the same level, so it's a stalemate. This cripples independent-minded voters' ability to punish bad behavior and the partisans can then win elections using their loyalists.

A photo ID requirement is not the only voting change the Republicans are pushing for. They've also been removing early voting and the ability to register to vote and vote on the same day. They're also trying to suppress voter registration drives by making regulations that are tough to adhere to perfectly and they are criminalizing violations of the regulations. See here.

It's all voter suppression. If the kind of Republicans we have in government right now learned of a genuine voter fraud problem, they'd first calculate whether it benefits or hurts them before deciding to do anything.

Science deals with evidence, not proof. And there's a huge amount of evidence that the warming is caused by humans. Once again you are just spewing denialist talking points.

So I guess you missed the article where the GAIA scientist (dude that started the MMGW Bullshit) admitted he was wrong? http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/23/11144098-gaia-scientist-james-lovelock-i-was-alarmist-about-climate-change?lite

Stop being in denial yourself. The data is out there. They were trying to keep the Adriatic out of Venice at least as far back as the 1300s. It isn't us. Fact is, there is nothing to show scientifically that CO2 has anything to do with warming. Symptom maybe, not cause.

Federal employees have the Thrift Savings Plan, which is similar to 401k plans.
I'd like to see where you get the idea that government employees have higher salaries? The people I know who work for the Fed gov tend to have lower salaries than the people I know that work for corporations. Fed salaries can be found here: http://www.opm.gov/oca/12tables/index.asp
As for insane job security, the people laid off would disagree. http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/19/10191199-good-news-for-government-workers-layoffs-easing?lite

The US has been broadcasting sunshine/propaganda into Cuba for decades without too much apparent effect, and it does have risks for diplomacy and the agents who conduct it.

Judging by the picture in the article, it is none other than Cowboy Neil himself.

You need new glasses. That's a picture of my senator.

So what's the /. UID of this thing?

Judging by the picture in the article, it is none other than Cowboy Neil himself.

There should be fear of complications.

http://now.msn.com/money/0406-kid-sells-kidney-iphone.aspx

In my opinion, the US needs to be broken up into the individual states, and the federal government disbanded (so the state becomes the country, and what's currently the country disappears completely.) Perhaps two or three states might band together to form a larger country, but the US as a whole is too big; it encourages cronyism and corruption.

we tried that, caused the civil war, and since the federal govt won it now has overwhelming power and the states don't mean much anymore. It's caused some huge problems, like California legalized pot dispensaries but the fed government keeps coming in and arresting the operators who are running legal businesses:
"Federal prosecutors are cracking down on some pot dispensaries in California, warning the stores that they must shut down in 45 days or face criminal charges and confiscation of their property even if they are operating legally under the state's 15-year-old medical marijuana law."

but don't worry, we'll do what we always do: sue until we get what we want

They were covered in tar and grease and crated.

The region they were found in has mostly dry soil.

while I doubt all of them will fly I wouldn't be surprised if they can't get 6-12 of the 70 they found flying.

In 1957 they put a brand new unprotected 1957 Plymouth Belvedere into an underground concrete time capsule and 50 years later in 2007 unearthed it:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19249855/ns/us_news-life/t/auto-time-capsule-unearthed-after-years/

It was a horrid sight but I imagine a no-expenses-spared frame-up restoration could recover that car. If an unprotected car comes out good enough to be restored I imagine a protected aircraft might come out in better shape even though its been 65 years.

I can't wait to see them unearthed.

Modern American Politicans already endorse the use of force to suppress non-violent political demonstrations. They already use the power they have to harass political dissidents. What makes you think that indefinite detention for political reasons is so far fetched?

yep, you are right, RSA isnt a major company, that dont have as its clients most of the other majors companies and governments... stolen RSA IDs couldnt be used to acces to important information...

not, EMC wasnt hacked, and the source for vmware stolen... so you are safe in thousand of companies and corporation that use ESX in trust that their platform is safe and trusted...

and dont forget you are always save with the encryption, certificates are safe, no one can issue rogue certificates and decrypt your data

I think he maybe referring to this case in Iraq. Basically they, presumable Al-Qaida, strapped remote control bombs to two mentally handicapped women with down syndrome and sent them into the target area and detonated them. Odds are the two bombers had no comprehension of what was happening. I don't have the articles but I know I have read of this tactic in other places as well. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22945797/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/handicapped-bombers-kill-dozens-iraq/#.T5lY3tWt0tU

The FDA would be playing a massive game of catchup in that they have no experience in the security field. They're provably not very competent at the things they DO have expertise in http://health.msn.com/health-topics/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100198246&page=2

It's like asking local law enforcement to start issuing engineering approval for car modifications that require blue prints.

I don't think they would bother with that. It's their job to go after bomb threats, they have no real way of knowing which is fake and which isn't.

I also note that *proper* procedure was followed, in that they requested international assistance. This means they must have provided enough evidence (or enough blackmail - depends on what you're willing to believe) to ensure *local* authorities acted.

Having said that, it's getting silly. It appears the guiding assumption is that all terrorists are dumb. Granted, there are good examples that seem to confirm this, but I'm worried that the signals of the real dangerous ones get buried under all this rubbish..

Coincidentally, it looks like Planetary Resources (a new company backed by several well-known billionaires) is going to formally announce tomorrow their plans to launch 2-5 orbital telescopes in the next 18-24 months. The primary of the telescopes will be to look for near-Earth asteroids to mine, although this will of course also be useful for detecting potentially-dangerous asteroids. They also plan on selling orbital telescopes at a cost of a few million dollars each, which is cheap enough that you could probably get a decent planetary protection effort going on Kickstarter. ;)

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/23/11339522-billionaire-backed-asteroid-mining-venture-starts-with-space-telescopes
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/04/planetary-resources-asteroid-mining/