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http://jrscience.wcp.muohio.ed... Our hypothesis is that the increase in greenhouse gases plays a role in the formation of tornadoes. This means that we are experiencing more tornadoes and tornadoes of greater magnitude as a result of both global warming and strengthened cycles such as El Nino and La Nina. yeah, nobody ever said that... rolls eyes

I suffer from MPD (mutlipe personality disorder) and I want to know which of me is the real one and yes, I'm as serious as a heart attack folks yet Google has never been able to answer this question to my satisfaction.

Google is polite enough not to answer that question. Believe me they already know.

They simply don't want to become the arbiter of your internal problems.

But here's a good solution: Move to the EU, or even South America. MPD(DID) is largely a creation of the North American psychiatric professionals, and is openly scoffed at in other parts of the world. Even the majority of psychiatrists are beginning to doubt the whole thing.

Lesiuk, Teresa. "The Effect of music listening on work performance." Psychology of Music. Vol.33, No. 2, 173-191 (2005). . This journal article found results that indicate that in a work environment, quality of work is lowest with no music and time-on-task was longest with no music as well. It also states the environments with music help mood and increase quality of work when music is present. We hope that our experiment shows these results as well.

On the subject of geek/nerd stereotypes, since when did geeks suddenly become fat?

I always pictured the stereotypical geek as being skinny, slightly pale, with thick black rimmed circular glasses that look too heavy and about to fall off the nose, uncomfortable looking smiles, odd speech patterns, and slightly squeaky voice*.

In fact, a Google image search seems to support both versions (skinny and fat).

However, from another search I may have found the answer during writing this post. The confusion may have started when gamers became geeky for some unknownst to me reason.

*And no I'm not describing myself. Nor is my intent to insult anyone over stereotypes.

I hoped that I kept the article summary relatively free of my personal opinion, which I will indulge in this comment:

Thomson Reuters has too many asshats.

Let us set aside the fact that academic software and those who develop academic software should embrace interoperability and knowledge sharing.

I'll even set aside that, despite the (rewritten) title, Zotero has many fundamental differences from EndNote.

The complaint is, in the words of Bruce D'Arcus, "a nuisance lawsuit designed to intimidate." Zotero's style repository contains no EndNote .ens styles and seems to contain no styles derived from those styles. CSL styles are created manually and through an online style creator. There is no way to get a new CSL style from an .ens file--the Zotero beta had mapped fields internally to allow .ens files to be used independently of CSL (but even this feature has been disabled in the trunk). Zotero thought about copyright issues surrounding this feature and came to the right decision--not to distribute .ens files or .csl files derived from .ens files, but to retain the feature to work with user-provided .ens files (similar to the way OpenOffice.org can open and save MS Office files).

I have decided not to purchase EndNote and I am asking my employer to do the same, unless the suit is dropped. I intend to donate at least as much as an EndNote license costs to George Mason University, the Software Freedom Law Center, the Electronic Frontier Foundation or any other applicable entity that both defends Zotero in this case and solicits donations. (I don't know any organization who has stepped in on this case yet, but I imagine that one of these organizations can provide some sort of legal support in the future.)

I encourage you to stop purchasing Thomson products too. There are plenty of reference managers for all platforms (some proprietary, some free/open source) that you can choose instead, not the least of which is Zotero.

Disclaimer: I am a developer of refbase, a free and open source reference manager that might be seen to compete with Thomson Reuters's EndNoteWeb. I have and continue to use many reference managers. While I have many technical complaints about the EndNote products, they aren't the worst technical products. Thomson may be the worst socially, though--in addition to inane and baseless lawsuits, they are very slow to respond to general feedback.

But when they came to letters, This, said Theuth, will make the Egyptians wiser and give them better memories; it is a specific both for the memory and for the wit. Thamus replied: O most ingenious Theuth, the parent or inventor of an art is not always the best judge of the utility or inutility of his own inventions to the users of them. And in this instance, you who are the father of letters, from a paternal love of your own children have been led to attribute to them a quality which they cannot have; for this discovery of yours will create forgetfulness in the learners' souls, because they will not use their memories; they will trust to the external written characters and not remember of themselves. The specific which you have discovered is an aid not to memory, but to reminiscence, and you give your disciples not truth, but only the semblance of truth; they will be hearers of many things and will have learned nothing; they will appear to be omniscient and will generally know nothing; they will be tiresome company, having the show of wisdom without the reality.

"Soc. At the Egyptian city of Naucratis, there was a famous old god, whose name was Theuth; the bird which is called the Ibis is sacred to him, and he was the inventor of many arts, such as arithmetic and calculation and geometry and astronomy and draughts and dice, but his great discovery was the use of letters. Now in those days the god Thamus was the king of the whole country of Egypt; and he dwelt in that great city of Upper Egypt which the Hellenes call Egyptian Thebes, and the god himself is called by them Ammon. To him came Theuth and showed his inventions, desiring that the other Egyptians might be allowed to have the benefit of them; he enumerated them, and Thamus enquired about their several uses, and praised some of them and censured others, as he approved or disapproved of them. It would take a long time to repeat all that Thamus said to Theuth in praise or blame of the various arts. But when they came to letters, This, said Theuth, will make the Egyptians wiser and give them better memories; it is a specific both for the memory and for the wit. Thamus replied: O most ingenious Theuth, the parent or inventor of an art is not always the best judge of the utility or inutility of his own inventions to the users of them. And in this instance, you who are the father of letters, from a paternal love of your own children have been led to attribute to them a quality which they cannot have; for this discovery of yours will create forgetfulness in the learners' souls, because they will not use their memories; they will trust to the external written characters and not remember of themselves. The specific which you have discovered is an aid not to memory, but to reminiscence, and you give your disciples not truth, but only the semblance of truth; they will be hearers of many things and will have learned nothing; they will appear to be omniscient and will generally know nothing; they will be tiresome company, having the show of wisdom without the reality." Translation from here.

Does a study entitled "Empirical Survey of Beauty Standards" count?

Any self respecting geek would want to get at least some of the facts straight before passing judgement on an ODF vs OOXML discussion, so why not this one? I guess it's easier to hold a bias.

You see the whole Science vs Religion argument in my opinion is fundamentally flawed, and frankly it's a bit deceptive to expect as default the notion that they are mutually exclusive.

Yes the Catholic Church has made some big mistakes, Specifically in the Galileo affair but also regarding Copernicus too. Over 2000 years or so the Catholic Church has accumulated quite a bit of experience and has had to learn lots from the mistakes of people who call themselves Catholic. That separation of Church & State is a good thing, that Faith can never conflict with reason and that the sacraments the Church offers for the benefit of the faithful should never ever be sold.

Specifically in the case of Galileo, several Popes offered tribute to him and Pope John Paul II in 1992, essentially apologised on behalf of the Inquisition that had wrongly admonished him.

"Thanks to his intuition as a brilliant physicist and by relying on different arguments, Galileo, who practically invented the experimental method, understood why only the sun could function as the centre of the world, as it was then known, that is to say, as a planetary system. The error of the theologians of the time, when they maintained the centrality of the Earth, was to think that our understanding of the physical world's structure was, in some way, imposed by the literal sense of Sacred Scripture...."

        - Pope John Paul II, L'Osservatore Romano N. 44 (1264) - 4th November,1992

Over time it has been a humbling but healthy experience for the Catholic Church, and it grows wiser from it. It seems exceptionally unlikely to me that the current Pope was going to Rome's La Sapienza university to tell them that Science sux and that Galileo was wrong, so there!

Why?

Because Science and Religion are not mutually exclusive. The very rigour of Science itself came from monks in monasteries attempting to understand and describe the observable world in objective ways. The first Universities were monasteries. Galileo himself quotes a Catholic cleric saying "The intention of the Holy Spirit is to teach how to go to heaven and not how go the heavens".

A person can choose to be an honest Scientist. A person can choose to have an honest belief in God. A Person can choose to be an honest Scientist with and honest belief in God.

A 6000 year old Earth which is an evolution free zone with dinosaur bones pre-baked is not honest. An honest Christian should not believe such things, they are not consistent with reason. With this in mind, one who doesn't lie about science can also honestly have faith in God. Faith in God does should not require taking the Bible as being a literal, scientifically prescriptive document. Paradoxically, Galileo, a sincere believer, showed himself to be more perceptive in this regard than the theologians who opposed him. "If Scripture cannot err", he wrote to Benedetto Castelli, "certain of its interpreters and commentators can and do so in many ways".

Faith and Reason are actually quite compatible, and from a Catholic perspective are interdependent. On the relationship between Faith and Reason

Of course, It's always just a lot easier to criticize the Catholic Church and those that represent it as backward, anti-Science and probably involved in some kind of conspiracy. Trouble is, the truth just wants to be free.

Yeah, I remember reading about terror birds many years ago. Here's a nice picture of one going after those tiny horses from back in the day. Note the wing-claws. It was theorized they use them like daggers.

And if one species of terror bird had the speed, that beak, dagger-wings, and the kick in a 10-foot tall package...well...that's one mother-f'n scary bird.

Bet he would have hated Google. All we have to remember now is how to use it and a few key words.

The individual who raised that question has obviously never heard of dendochronology nor paleoclimatology. Science is about elucidating reality to the nimrods....

Here at Miami, our Campus Agreement is giving us Vista Ultimate and Vista Enterprise. I believe our Student Select agreement (which is what our bookstore uses to sell discounted software to students) provides Vista Business.

I am also in need of good citation support & am a bit of geek about it (I am a co-developer of refbase).

There are a few issues with your post.

An office suite is A LOT more than a bibliographic management system & it would not be a small task to implement it in XUL in Firefox. There have been a number of online word processors & they haven't yet seen great success.

The other thing is that Endnote is not that great of a bibliographic manager & there are more serious attempts to replace it. Zotero for Firefox will be worth watching. The new MS XML format has metadata support for citations. And OO.o has the bibliographic project to add citation support to OO.o. Bruce D'Arcus's blog is worth following.

At Miami, we used Altiris to produce a report of all notebooks matching the serial numbers from Dell's battery recall site. It's a bit more reliable than asking everyone to look at their battery.

At Miami, we use Cisco Clean Access. We do not support firewalls that do NAT, including routers, because of the unnecessary support burden. CCA allows non-Windows machines to authenticate to the network without going through the policy enforcement hoops that Windows machines go through. Some organizations have Nessus scanning turned on in CCA as a policy option though. CCA verifies AV Software/Updates and Windows Updates by using a client-side agent that reports back the relevant information to the CCA appliance. OS detection can be done based on the web browser's user-agent or OS fingerprinting. Owners of headless devices, e.g. XBox and PS2, can use a web application to exempt their devices, which of course puts the device in a separate network role designed for the device and discourages students from trying to exempt their computers.

Though, why an ornithologist is wasting time playing WoW, I'll never know.

Hmm, Journalism Major, just looked it up at a nearby college, Miami University of Ohio, hmm, Journalism, part of the English department. Hmm, I reiterate English Majors! http://www.units.muohio.edu/english/People/Faculty /journalism.html Note the top of the page.
Department of English
Faculty
Journalism

This would go to indicate that Journalism is a subset of English majors, would it not?

Haha, now that is pretty funny. You really do learn something new every day.

You write something like Miami University has in its Responsible Use of Computing Resources document. You can read it at http://kb.muohio.edu/cgi-bin/webcgi.exe?new,KB=MUK B,case=obj(4831) if you are interested.

There is very little technology specific language in it, and it was written many, many years ago. We look to revise it at a certain interval, and always come to the conclusion that it still stands and applies as well as it did when it was written. The student judicial system and technology advisers get involved in the interpretation of the policy if something happens, and the governmental judicial system should do something similar in the real world.

For example, the Mount Pinatubo eruption

lowered the temperature by the addition of aerosols (dust and sulfuric gasses), which mostly leave the atmosphere over the next several years. CO2 does not (there is sequestering, but it's a slow process). CFCs do not (half-lives often over a hundred years). Methane does not, although it is one of the shorter lived greenhouse gasses (12 years) and some of our actions have added new permanent influxes (for example, dambuilding). Etc. Mt. Pinatubo actually helped validate models of global warming

There is nothing unique in time scale or magnitude

Yes, there distinctly is.

The little climatic optimum ... the little ice age

Was nothing compared to recent temperature change; check the graphs. Some conservative sites distort the issue by citing temperature changes *In Europe* during this period, not global temperatures. If you want to talk *regional* climate change, be my guest - compare Europe's little ice age change to the modern Arctic climate change.

lasting about 1000 years on average

Completely false (unless you're, for some reason, talking about small-fraction-of-a-degree changes, as opposed to real ice ages). Again, look at the graphs; I can't stress enough that you review the data again, because you're wrong about what it says.

The pre-holocene glacial period had prpbably some of the most rapid climate changes in history, yet they still took a 650-3000 years to accomplish what we've done in a two hundred, and what we will repeat in 50 or less.

Why would you think that?

Because people familar with the system, durning my Junior year there, told me that's how it works. It was the professor that, without giving out his ID, it was a professor that I though would have direct knowledge.

It seems that if they used sequential numbers, they could've done that from the start.

It seems that a reason for generating them from SSN's would so that everyone in every school would have unique ID's. And, if they ever had to reconstruct that data, it would be easy.

If you have all these databases, different ones in different depts, each with SSN's in them, and you want to make them all Banner Id's, then you would want to have some algo that would take one number and pop out the other.

Well, after some work online, I found some stuff of interest.

This Excell sheet shows every data field in the banner system an MU, and (well the new alum system they are building, but it shows which ones relate)this powerpoint slide show gives some insight. The PIDM seems to be the number that is generated from the SSN. A quote from the slide show is "When an institution has a student originally built in DARS, and also existing in Banner, the institution can write a script to populate the PIDM in stu_master," and I guess that is what my professor was talking about. I think that PIDM might be your plus id, or banner id, but who knows...

The person in the registrars office might be correct, but some ID is generated by the SSN to tie the two togeather. My source knew all the right people to have the information that I gave on here, but oh, how the stories will change. Anyway, I was able to find way to much info on the Miami websites.

People should realize that when the put something in the www or htdocs folder, that it will be public.

Why would you think that?

Because people familar with the system, durning my Junior year there, told me that's how it works. It was the professor that, without giving out his ID, it was a professor that I though would have direct knowledge.

It seems that if they used sequential numbers, they could've done that from the start.

It seems that a reason for generating them from SSN's would so that everyone in every school would have unique ID's. And, if they ever had to reconstruct that data, it would be easy.

If you have all these databases, different ones in different depts, each with SSN's in them, and you want to make them all Banner Id's, then you would want to have some algo that would take one number and pop out the other.

Well, after some work online, I found some stuff of interest.

This Excell sheet shows every data field in the banner system an MU, and (well the new alum system they are building, but it shows which ones relate)this powerpoint slide show gives some insight. The PIDM seems to be the number that is generated from the SSN. A quote from the slide show is "When an institution has a student originally built in DARS, and also existing in Banner, the institution can write a script to populate the PIDM in stu_master," and I guess that is what my professor was talking about. I think that PIDM might be your plus id, or banner id, but who knows...

The person in the registrars office might be correct, but some ID is generated by the SSN to tie the two togeather. My source knew all the right people to have the information that I gave on here, but oh, how the stories will change. Anyway, I was able to find way to much info on the Miami websites.

People should realize that when the put something in the www or htdocs folder, that it will be public.

Anyway, from TFA, it wasn't "Biz Kidzzzzz" who exposed the data, but a now-retired professor in the Business Department.

That was slang to a point. It's a juvenile act to be so irresponsible with important data. The problem seems to be a big one.

The incompetence resides in Miami's IT for letting people who shouldn't be expected to be overly technical have that much ability to expose critical information.

You may not realize it, but every student and professor has many ways they can post data to the Internet. You must be a first year SAN student if you haven't figured out that you get a public web drive on your 'M' dirve. It's the one labeled 'www,' incase you have trouble finding it. This link will set it up for you. You also have the Unixgen server that you can use. So, are you saying that, at a university, where everyone get access to powerful tools, that professors should be restricted from using them?

Q: You know what we call first year SAN or CSA students?
A: Pre-business Majors!

Good luck on your degree.

Interesting to know. I've got many friends that go to Miami University up in Oxford, OH. For those not in the know, it is a division 1 school, and just a little bith north of Cincinnati, OH. The city Oxford, OH is just a college city. Lovely campus, though the students have a general stigma of being uptight and preppy. I'd say 90% or more are upper-middle class white kids. Their official website, is www.muohio.edu.

Oxford, Ohio

http://www.muohio.edu/

We were here first :P

They are also XML files, which can be understandable in plaintext.

This is the single biggest myth about XML,

the idea that its "understandable" in vi.

XML documents can also have binary in them (for instance images)

and of course if you don't have the schema to go with the document then you don't know the constraints on the structure and order of elements.

MS could use (and I think does) XML to describe their documents, if however they keep the schema secret, use binary imports or just create massively complex multi-namespace documents then it will still be as closed as ever.

I may believe that computer science degrees are not found to be as attractive to Freshmen entering college anymore, but I do not believe the premise. That is, the reason for the decline of interest is not because of outsourcing or simplification.

My computer science degree gave me a wide range of potential. No classes in how to fix a computer when your hard drive crashes, but after finishing my computer architecture class, I believe I can build a computer out of spare parts from a junk yard. I know the ins and outs of how to build a very complex machine of a very basic principals. My AI class thought how to sort large amounts of information in an efficient manor. The class tough how to solve very complex puzzles in an efficient manner. MIS students at my school didn't take ether of those, and their heads would spin at the problems. Notice that MIS is thought out of the business school, when computer science is thought out of the engineering school.

Yeah, if you only want to know how to write PHP so you can keep a web site going, then a CS degree isn't for you. If your a business person who wants to write a sexy excel spread sheet, then maybe MIS is a good choice. If you want to become an engineer who will not shy away from any problem, then you might be a good candidate for a computer science program.

I may believe that computer science degrees are not found to be as attractive to Freshmen entering college anymore, but I do not believe the premise. That is, the reason for the decline of interest is not because of outsourcing or simplification.

My computer science degree gave me a wide range of potential. No classes in how to fix a computer when your hard drive crashes, but after finishing my computer architecture class, I believe I can build a computer out of spare parts from a junk yard. I know the ins and outs of how to build a very complex machine of a very basic principals. My AI class thought how to sort large amounts of information in an efficient manor. The class tough how to solve very complex puzzles in an efficient manner. MIS students at my school didn't take ether of those, and their heads would spin at the problems. Notice that MIS is thought out of the business school, when computer science is thought out of the engineering school.

Yeah, if you only want to know how to write PHP so you can keep a web site going, then a CS degree isn't for you. If your a business person who wants to write a sexy excel spread sheet, then maybe MIS is a good choice. If you want to become an engineer who will not shy away from any problem, then you might be a good candidate for a computer science program.

However, looking straight at the sun, it will appear to have a swirling rim, due to the micromovements of the eyeball.

People who think you can't observe a solar eclipse without modern safety precautions must believe the Chinese invented welders' goggles and polaroid filters more than 4,000 years ago: http://www.cas.muohio.edu/~devriepl/phy211/Ancient Astronomy/Chinese.htm

The Chinese are credited with having many of the first observations of significant events in the sky. For instance, the Chinese recorded the first solar eclipse in the 2000 BC. They wrote "5th year of Emperor Zhong Kang of Xia, autumn, 9th month, day gengxu (47), the first day of the month; there was an eclipse of the Sun." The Chinese were actually scared of the solar eclipse. They saw it as the sky bringing despair to earth. Within the moment of the eclipses, sacrifices were performed, banners were hung, and music was played to persuade the sky to have mercy. Therefore it was important to be prepared for another solar eclipse.

Our university bookstore [warning: tacky website] just signed a deal with IBM to buy a bunch of ThinkCentres to sell to the students. Our Support Desk was asked for input on what should be put on the image for each machine. A couple thousand students will now have Firefox installed for them ;) (I'm not sure if we put Thunderbird on there or not)

Well, I'm a computer science grad, and a software man, but my school, Miami University, which has one of the oldest computer programs in the country (50+ years old), now has a Computer Engineering Program. Seems like a mix of computer science and electrical engineering.

Your best bet is to choose what you enjoy. That's what I did, and I'm happy at my post. If you try any engineering field, and you're not into it 100%, you will waste money, maybe fail out, and be miserable.

Good Luck.

No it talks about high working-memory capacity and says nothing about smart people. The title of the submitted article is a little misleading. This appears to be the original article, while here is some of the other work, includes sports performance as well maths.

No it talks about high working-memory capacity and says nothing about smart people. The title of the submitted article is a little misleading. This appears to be the original article, while here is some of the other work, includes sports performance as well maths.

Could I revive within me
Her symphony and song,
To such a deep delight 'twould win me
That with music loud and long
I would build that dome in air,
That sunny dome! those caves of ice!
And all who heard should see them there,
And all should cry, Beware! Beware!
His flashing eyes, his floating hair!
Weave a circle round him thrice,
And close your eyes with holy dread,
For he on honey-dew hath fed
And drunk the milk of Paradise.
-- Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Xanadu

While there's no doubt that the Sun was entirely at fault here for their poor handling of the affair, it's not hard to see how they could believe that Disney let a swear word slip by. Even ignoring simple accidents like the infamous penis-columns on the Little Mermaid artwork and debatably subjective interpretations like the hidden word "SEX" in the Lion King, there have been a number of cases where "offensive material" appeared in Disney films.

For instance, they had to change the lyrics to the Aladdin title song because Arab-American groups complained. Someone snuck in shots of Baby Herman flipping the bird, and a topless woman in The Rescuers.

How many consumers in western nations are aware that cartridges can be forged? (Software is one thing, CD's/DVD's also, but cartridges?) Given the cutthroat pace of modern media, it's hardly surprising that the Sun rushed to print with this one, once making that assumption.

I think the real story here is not that the Sun screwed up. I think the real story lies in finding out where that pirated game came from, and more importantly, how many pirated cartridges are out there. One would hope the Sun would lead the charge on this investigation.

No one has an IT department willing to support it? Our university recently implemented SpamAssassin for the 20k+ email accounts. I'm sure there are corporations out there of our size that have a larger IT budget than us. Although Miami tends to lean towards open source more often than not (SquirrelMail, SpamAssassin, PHP, etc.). I'm glad they're spending money on enhancing existing projects than giving it to some company because they have a customer support line.

http://www.users.muohio.edu/toaddyjm/slashdot/A_Si ngular_Christmas.zip2
Let's see if you guys can break the webserver! I think it'll survive, personally, but many others have said that in the past ;).

Thanks to hfcs http://slashdot.org/~hfcs/ for the file!

http://admsol02.mcs.muohio.edu:11180/apps/miamijob s/jobsOnLine/positonDetail.cfm?positionNumber=1965

We're offering two of such positions - perhaps you'd find something like this on an intern basis - we have a rather robust security department as it is, so I'd venture to say other Universities would as well.

Our IT Services Support Desk uses Firefox as one of the last steps in our browser troubleshooting.

The interesting thing is that I have had several people call us this semester asking how to uninstall Internet Explorer. I usually give them a quick rant. Today, I told someone asking me the same question to go watch Antitrust.

I was envisioning something to get past Miami's fascist device

Objection: assumption of facts not in evidence. What you say is only true if it is possible to do it significantly better than it is done, and yet you have offered no evidence to support this assumption.

Do you have any evidence that it isn't possile to do it significantly better? We can both play the lack-of-evidence game. It is a great game to play as far as I'm concerned because the answer to it would be: we both admit it isn't perfect. Where's the objection to sponsoring significant studies to determine how not perfect it is and how to improve it?

Those are coming; they did not get them in time for this election.

There is proposed legislation to do this federally. There isn't any passed legislation to assure it will be in place at federal, state, county, and city levels by next year. While the notable bills that would give us voter-verifiable audit trails don't seem to be poisoned & should be passed, they aren't exactly being fast-tracked either.

So what? We had less percentage of error in this election than in 2000, when we DID have an audit trail.

And exactly how much error was there in 2000 and how much in 2004? You're making this up. (And after accusing me of doing something similar?!?!

Provisional ballots are new for this election, and the handling of them is defined by federal law

Some states had provisional ballots prior to the election. Congress made them required in all states this year. It is the states who determine which provisional ballots will be counted. Some throw out the provisional ballots cast in the wrong polling place. Some don't. Some require a form to be completely and accurately filled out. Some don't. There aren't even state-wide standards, as a 2002 court case in Colorado highlighted: three counties had three different standards in a statewide election.

Bull. It is possible to accout for that the statistical errors
There are none, moron.

You'd agree that there are some if you knew what they are. Please provide a definition and say why counting votes is so perfect that there are none. If we can't find the systematic cause of all errors, explain why. If we can, please explain why we can't make a perfect count after we resolve all systematic errors.

If you don't want to go to the trouble of checking out either of the books I mentioned from the library, feel free to use the web.

Yes, you can say that. If you're an idiot. It's nonsensical.

Way to go calling everyone publishing scientific papers and even many engineers idiots! You can (and often should) apply error analysis to any measurement that you can make repetitively that has a different value each time you measure it. It isn't nonsensical at all. If the standard deviation is sufficiently low, you might have wasted time or money. But we can gather from many recounts that the deviation is higher than small spreads & so could be worthwhile.

Such thing can only make sense when you are doing sampling, which you are not doing.

Neither are scientists doing sampling when they measure the speed of light.

then you went back to talking about it anyway, because you're stupid. Statistical error ONLY applies to sampling.

You're stupid. Read the references provided & explain to me how making a fixed measurement (as done in examples in many of the references) is sampling. It isn't. Statistical error applies to any repeatable measurement that don't lead to identical results.

There is no such thing as experimental error in these matters. There's no experiment.

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http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A1=ind04 \ 10b&L=archives#45

RAIN 1015
http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A1=ind04 \ 10c&L=archives#58

RAIN 1022
http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A1=ind04 \ 10d&L=archives#47

RAIN 1029
http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A1=ind04 \ 10e&L=archives#11

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rain
at
http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A1=ind04 \ 10b&L=archives#45

RAIN 1015
http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A1=ind04 \ 10c&L=archives#58

RAIN 1022
http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A1=ind04 \ 10d&L=archives#47

RAIN 1029
http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A1=ind04 \ 10e&L=archives#11

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Mirror: nscape09.zip

Ah, the good ol' days..

Screenshots: 1 2 3

Mirror: nscape09.zip

Ah, the good ol' days..

Screenshots: 1 2 3

Mirror: nscape09.zip

Ah, the good ol' days..