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HAHA! Twitter, you never cease to amaze me.

Twitter, do you really want me to prove you wrong?

Right; here we go: my MySpace. Note where I say I'm 17 and I work for a supermarket. And that the picture is me, in a Waitrose uniform.

Now, surely an "M$ astroturfer" wouldn't be working in a fucking supermarket?

I expect you to retaliate with ad hominem shit, rather than what would be most decent; an admission that I'm NOT paid by Microsoft. I don't know why I should try and prove anything to you, except to make you look like a moron.

By the way, people attacking you for your endless rants about M$ and Windoze doesn't equate with "apologists" "swarming". And I see you posted your charming deconstruction of my posting history, which turned out to be shite in which you deliberately misrepresented things I had said.

No problem -
http://www.bridgeclubmusic.com/ -website
http://www.myspace.com/bridgeclubyo - Myspace page

See you at the next show, it is on the 7th at the Uptown Bar. We are headlining, so we will probably go on around 12. Thanks for the interest.

What a faggot! I mean really, how full of himself is this asshole?

Link's above.

I'd also suggest:
http://www.myspace.com/livegirlsknockyouout
http://www.myspace.com/triplesevens
http://www.myspace.com/thefairiesband
http://www.myspace.com/thepill

Downloads available for all of them, and everyone but The Fairies (London) play regularly in NYC.

Or does my sarcasm-o-meter need new batteries...?

DN

Link's above.

I'd also suggest:
http://www.myspace.com/livegirlsknockyouout
http://www.myspace.com/triplesevens
http://www.myspace.com/thefairiesband
http://www.myspace.com/thepill

Downloads available for all of them, and everyone but The Fairies (London) play regularly in NYC.

Or does my sarcasm-o-meter need new batteries...?

DN

Link's above.

I'd also suggest:
http://www.myspace.com/livegirlsknockyouout
http://www.myspace.com/triplesevens
http://www.myspace.com/thefairiesband
http://www.myspace.com/thepill

Downloads available for all of them, and everyone but The Fairies (London) play regularly in NYC.

Or does my sarcasm-o-meter need new batteries...?

DN

Link's above.

I'd also suggest:
http://www.myspace.com/livegirlsknockyouout
http://www.myspace.com/triplesevens
http://www.myspace.com/thefairiesband
http://www.myspace.com/thepill

Downloads available for all of them, and everyone but The Fairies (London) play regularly in NYC.

Or does my sarcasm-o-meter need new batteries...?

DN

I can't speak for Lord_Dweomer, but thisis the band I've been working with, and we'd be happy for you to have a listen to our music. Come and see us if you're ever in Perth.

Business / Internet video

The trouble with YouTube
Aug 31st 2006 | SAN FRANCISCO
From The Economist print edition

It attracts a lot of viewers, but can “user-generated” video make money?

“STARBUCKS has comfy chairs, but they don’t charge people for sitting in them,” says Tom McInerney, the boss and co-founder of Guba, an internet-video company. Instead, he explains, Starbucks provides a comfortable environment, at considerable expense, so that people will buy overpriced coffee. That, in essence, is the business model being pursued by websites that host “user-generated content” such as personal blogs, photographs and today’s craze, amateur videos, which can be uploaded and watched on sites such as YouTube, Google Video, MySpace, Guba, Veoh and Metacafe. By offering a setting for free interaction, such sites provide the online equivalent of comfy chairs. The trouble is that, so far, there is no equivalent of the overpriced coffee that brings in the money and pays the bills.

IMAGE: Head and shoulders above the rest, for now (AP)

That is why people like Chad Hurley and Steven Chen (pictured), the co-founders of YouTube, the clear leader of the pack by audience size, are casting around for a business model. Aware that inserting advertisements at the beginning of video clips, as some sites do, is annoying and risks driving away YouTube’s users, Mr Hurley and Mr Chen have announced two experiments with advertising, with the promise of more to come. One idea is for “brand channels” in which corporate customers create pages for their own promotional clips. Warner Brothers Records, a music label, led the way, setting up a page to promote a new album by Paris Hilton. The second experiment is “participatory video ads”, whereby advertisements can be uploaded and then rated, shared and tagged just like amateur clips. This “encourages engagement and participation,” the company declares.

Even as advertisers evaluate these new ideas, however, YouTube and the other video-sharing sites face other difficulties. For one thing, they are in a no-man’s land of copyright law: they promise to pull pirated content from their sites when asked to do so, but it is only a matter of time before one of them is hit with a big lawsuit. Then there are the costs of running such a site—video requires a lot of bandwidth and storage. A rival estimates that YouTube is losing more than $500,000 a month.

Putting paid-for advertisements alongside amateur video clips, perhaps based on keywords or tags, poses another problem. “How do you know the guy in a video doesn’t make a racial slur?” asks Mr McInerney. Many firms will be cautious about letting an automatic system—such as, say, Google’s AdSense—place their ads next to user-generated clips of unknown provenance and with potentially embarrassing contents. (Even so, Guba is testing AdSense for Video, which has not yet been officially launched.)

For its part, Guba is betting on a combination of advertising plus the sale and rental of commercial video material. Its site offers both free amateur videos and paid-for content, including films from Sony and Warner Brothers. When Guba cut its prices last week, allowing new films to be downloaded for $9.99 and older ones for $4.99, its sales jumped tenfold. Google Video also allows content owners to charge for video. This suggests that internet-video sites are on a collision course with DVD-rental outfits, such as Netflix, which are moving towards the delivery of films via the

Let's see. News Corporation is a publicly traded company. News Corporation owns MySpace. Rupert Murdoch says one of MySpace's goals isto take the market lead in online video from privately held YouTube in the next 60 to 70 days. Granted, I'm not a Murdoch fan, and I'm not going to contend that he's not a "moron", but do you really think News Corp. would push this if they thought they were going to get the pants sued off of them?

You know if you like the music sharing, but hate the DRM, there are other solutions. Check out Radio Mixtape. You can create play lists from full length MP3 audio files that artists designate (we even have Sub Pop's promotional catalog, something the Zune claims to come pre-loaded with). Mix tapes can be embedded in MySpace profiles as Flash Widgets, or Blogs as JavaScript widgets. Everything is free and information about downloads and sharing are provided back to the artist directly (and all "buy album" links are in direct control of the artists, some link to Amazon, some to thier own label others even to iTunes). It's free for artists and free for fans, and it works on absolutely every portable audio player. You don't need to sell your sole to Microsoft just to share good music. -Jason

Strangely enough this type of behavior can be related to 1959 cuba....Check out this FAGS!!! myspace.

Actually yes.
I just did a very quick google search for site:myspace.com video
heres one from the first page of results.

myspace is crap.

It's sad that Alex P Keaton In Da has to piss in the ocean and cause this. Get a job FAG!!!

Check out this FAG!!!

check out this fag

This is likely the biggest fag you'll ever meet on myspace.

Note:

(a) the fly music
(b) the tough guy, punch girls in the face post
(c) his moronic style
(d) his pre-occupation with cars (how old is he?)
(e) the gay smile
(f) the faux-attempt at political posturing
(g) the racism, posing as intellectual conversation

Wow, what a total and complete homo. Keep it up Aamir!

It is th eones that like to comment on thisge at they have no depth of understanding in that polute the entire blog concept. They create the ompression that the entire blog phenomin is nothing more than ignorant people spouting off. They also create the noise that the informed people get lost in. For each blog written by a person with real knowledge there are so many ignorant ones that the information gets lost in the flood.

If people would just be honest about their limitations, and the limitations of their expertise on the topic that they are writing about, the whole system would have a much better chance of being accepted a creditable. As it is, we have freshmen art majors (nothing aginst art majors, my wife was an art major) trying to pontificat on evrything form Global Warming, Global Politics, and Global Econonomics, to the reason the his girlfriends hair looks funny when she dies it orange. There is just no creditibality. In my blog, I make it clear, it is a reflection of my observations (here I will pimp my blog http://www.myspace.com/robert_crawford ). I am not saying that I am the know it all of blogs. I accept that most of you can do better. All I am saying that it is my observations. If prople would just be more honest aboutt the real limitations of thier blog, the respect would come.

I have no idea why AOL would back out of hosting Al's video, since he is one of the most successful artists I know. He has been releasing albums for over two decades. He has 3 Grammy's, 3 Gold Albums, and 6 Platinum albums in the US.

He also has a fan base so loyal that tens of thousands will gather just to honor him with a collective chicken dance.

I can stand for more whitebread/geeky gangsta rap. Even if you have heard of http://www.myspace.com/mcchris (mc chris), you should also check out the excellent video from barats and baretta on youtube, at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_sn8dYyobM

He's releasing a "dual disk" CD that has a DVD of videos on the back side of it. Somebody probably swiped one from a pre-release stock room and ripped it.

Weird Al on MySpace

I am a bit sad that just listing all these cliches about, well, us is funny.
Could somebody do this about gay or black people and get away with it?

The myspace page if nobody has mentioned it yet:
http://www.myspace.com/whiteandnerdy

http://www.savetheinternet.com/ http://www.myspace.com/savetheinternet Get educated, do your part, support Net Neutrality. I have a personal web gallery, I'd rather not have to fight over bandwidth-leftovers after Telco's are done prioritizing contracted websites.

As a professional producer and DJ of drum and bass, there is another factor that keeps vinyl alive. Besides the fact that we've spent years perfecting our pitch chasing and mixing skills using our hands actually changing the speed and phase of the vinyl (don't even ask a turntablist about CD decks), if I release a track that only want a few select DJs to play, it isn't overly expensive to get a dubplate made. These dubplates are of inferior sound quality (not that you notice on a proper MONO club system) and will only last around 100 plays. If a producer gets wind of you playing something unreleased by using MP3/CD decks, you will never get booked again. Elitist? Maybe. But if I don't want you playing a new track that will only stay popular if it isn't overplayed by every DJ in the area, I'm releasing it on dubplate. Keep in mind that entire albums are not possible on 45 RPM 12" vinyl, you can get about 10 minutes per side - released LPs have two tracks, an A and B side, EPs are anywhere from 2 to 5 vinyl in the same jacket, 2 tracks per vinyl.

Signal Loss of Signal against Noise
http://myspace.com/signalagainstnoise/

If I've said it once, I've said it a million times: One of the biggest things holding social networking back is that people still have this conception of it that is very reminiscent of a 1996 Wired Magazine article. That it's all very cool and hip and revolutionary.

Social networking isn't gonna get anywhere until people everywhere see it as a basic tool, no more, no less. You don't see kids bragging about their email address, do you? Why are teenagers acting the fool over the fact that they have a myspace?

I've been working on a distributed social networking software called Appleseed (at Sourceforge, and a test site at Appleseedproject.org. The idea is to distribute social networking across an infinite number of sites, all of which can communicate with each other flawlessly. Basically, taking the decentralized theory of the internet, and applying it to social networking software.

One of the effects I think this will have, is that a lot of people will join social networking sites who might be normally turned off by a monolothic cesspool such as MySpace. Ridiculous hipsters can have their site, and people who don't suck could have their own site, and someone who doesn't suck could still maintain a relationship with their hipster "friend" so that they can hear where the parties are without having to wear girls jeans and have a haircut that proves that the world has no sense of decency.

Yes, this means that your uncle and your mom and your cousin and even maybe your grandparents are gonna be do the whole social networking thing. Luckily, Appleseed has a lot of privacy options, so you can hide your BDSM Leninist Reading Group from your family.

One of the effects of the "uncooling" of social networking, I think, will be that people recognize that you're not hanging out at 80's night at the local club, or chilling with your friends at a private party. You're broadcasting your life to the whole damn world. Once I think people realize that, I think the absurd and abnormal social habits that social networking creates are going to quickly disappear.

At the very least, I sincerely hope so.

in the mood for pirate hip hop?

"and this tool 'ain't it'."


Actually, this is it.

thepiaratebay search
the myspace page

http://signup.myspace.com/index.cfm

Creative Commons

Defective by Design's List of DRM-Free Music Sites

dmusic

Electronic Frontier Foundation List of "Artists Online"

emusic.com

Fading Ways Records

FreeCulture.org

harveydanger.com

Janis Ian.com

last.fm

Lime Light Radio

live365.com free downloads

MagnaTune

myspace.com

Nettwerk Download Store

R.evolution I.n P.rogress

RIAARadar.com

uncoolcentral.com

Vision Metal Records

I keep a list on my blog and welcome more suggestions.

Creative Commons

Defective by Design's List of DRM-Free Music Sites

dmusic

Electronic Frontier Foundation List of "Artists Online"

emusic.com

Fading Ways Records

FreeCulture.org

harveydanger.com

Janis Ian.com

last.fm

Lime Light Radio

live365.com free downloads

MagnaTune

myspace.com

Nettwerk Download Store

R.evolution I.n P.rogress

RIAARadar.com

uncoolcentral.com

Vision Metal Records

I keep a list on my blog and welcome more suggestions.

Whooops...Here is his myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/rfjason

If only more artists acted like Weird Al: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids. individual&videoid=1130211390

The U.S. Air Force recently announced their own myspace site. They have been promoting it in base newspapers and with a companion site. It officially launches on 18Sep.

I think paid subscriptions will drive the next successful social networking site.

There's a reason that Myspace is considered the cesspool of the internet; it has a reputation as being full of either naive teenage girls or sex predators. And quite rightfully so, as its current setup caters to the first and so by extension, the second, by making the process of posting a personal profile as simple as a few clicks.

Personally I do not have an account on there even though most of my friends do, for several reasons but the above being one of them. If I am going to get involved in an online community, including having personal information publicly displayed, it would be more reassuring me to know that not every nutjob who wants to can come across it. This is why I do use and enjoy Facebook, as you must either be friends with a person or be a member of their network (by school or employer) to view their complete profile. I don't know everybody at my school but I tend to trust that few of my classmates are dangerous threats to my personal safety, so no harm done really.

So Facebook has that screening process, but its downside is that I can then only browse the profiles of people I go to school with. What if I want to meet people I have common interests with who I would be compatible with (as acquaintances, as mates, and everything in between), yet I still want there to be some sort of screening or filtering mechanism so that I'm not wading through scum? I could conceive of a service where you pay for some sort of an initial background check (nothing too severe in most cases, maybe a check to see where you work/go to school, criminal background, and you fill out a questionnaire) and if you are accepted, a monthly subscription to remain a member of the network.

There could be different levels of subscription (the higher ones being able to view the profiles of the lower ones, but not the other way around) and varying depths of background checks (the higher ones requiring references). Hell, there could be a free level of service with no check, and maybe a minimal one above it that just checks to see that you aren't a registered sex offender or have been convicted of a felony in the lsat 12 months. From there you could keep making it more and more restrictive, eventually not just weeding out criminals or potential criminals but also people who simply aren't as interesting, successful, and/or accomplished, and to belong to the higher, elite "levels" would carry a much higher subscription fee (which doubly assures you that the random weirdos and creeps will generally not be able to see you).

The only roadblock, as with all sites of this nature, would be getting it started. If I were running it I would cater first to professionals such as doctors, lawyers, and executives, and if I could establish that base then the lower "levels" would fill themselves quickly as the site built its name recognition.

Burger King, an international chain of restaurants which has been in business for over 50 years, designs a new mascot and gets 127,220 MySpace friends.

Christine Dolce, an unemployed twenty-something cosmetologist who may well have been conceived in the parking lot of a Burger King, bleached her hair and took off her shirt to get 1,022,716 friends.

I think the jury is in on just what the Internet is used for.

Burger King, an international chain of restaurants which has been in business for over 50 years, designs a new mascot and gets 127,220 MySpace friends.

Christine Dolce, an unemployed twenty-something cosmetologist who may well have been conceived in the parking lot of a Burger King, bleached her hair and took off her shirt to get 1,022,716 friends.

I think the jury is in on just what the Internet is used for.

http://www.myspace.com/rfjason/

I use YouTube.com's video service to post not-so-awesome videos on my band's website. I personally have no problem with YouTube.com embedding 15-30 second ads in front of my videos because they need to find a way to create a viable revenue model to stay in business. If they embedded the ads after the videos I think most users would not stick around to watch them. The only thing I would object to would be tobacco/alcohol related ads, even though I do have an occasional beer. For those of you who still expect everything on the Internet to be free, you need to get over it.

Allen D. Tate, Bass Guitar
Chowder Monkey
My band website: http://www.chowdermonkey.com/
My MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/BigAlBassMan

You apparently haven't been to MySpace. Young people add a great deal of value to the Internet.

>Aye, the problem with being a music publisher or recording studio. I was thinking of starting my own indie label, >but first I would need to find some good bands around here. ;p

I'm pretty sure this will actually be on-topic! I challenge all of those who think that unsigned bands on Myspace are steaming piles of "Fashioncore" turds to check my band out - we're influenced by Soundgarden, Metallica, Faith No More, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Joe Satriani and more. Heaviness with melody.

For some pretty decent quality demos, check out http://www.myspace.com/kapitate
For Youtube videos of live shows: http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=Kapitat e

I am as visually disgusted by most band pages on there as the rest of you - we keep it plain and readable. Our actual website is no grand exercise in style, but look at the content. I'd be positively flattered if it was Slashdotted, er, as long as a few hundred thousand got to see us first before it went down, that is.

Regards,

-Kapitate

Well, I look after my unsigned band's myspace profile. (For those who hate myspace, we also have a website but I'm slightly loath to link there from a place like slashdot as it's a bit of an embarrassment ;) That site is several years old and in bad need of an overhaul - I've nearly but not quite finished the brand new shiny xhtml/css version... honest...)

Anyway, last time myspace came up here, I posted this comment which earned myself a +5, several agreeing replies, and even a couple of CD sales for the band. So I thought I would pitch in here.

Firstly, this isn't exactly new, as other posters have mentioned bands can already get their music sold on sites like CDBaby. However I don't think you should underestimate the likely impact that comes from conveniently having something all-in-one-place. Because ultimately people are lazy!

If you have a myspace profile with some tunes in your player, then some text underneath saying "if you want to buy full quality MP3s of the tunes..." then a link through to any other website, I would bet that only a tiny % of profile viewers bother to do so. If on the other hand you have little "buy" icons on the myspace music player itself I would imagine the "conversion rate" to be much higher.

In that regard this is a very interesting development. Part of my shiny new band website will be an integrated shopping cart for MP3s (I'll be using Cubecart unless anybody replies to this post telling me about something better), so we can sell them ourselves. However I wouldn't rule out simultaenously offering them for sale on Myspace, as it is my belief that website visitors and myspace visitors are generally two relatively separate demographics.

The one thing that concerns me, and means I won't be rushing into this immediately, is this comment. A fair point - there's already something of a storm around the myspace "EULA" for music, which basically says "all your base are belong to us". Read literally, it suggests that they could, for example, use your music in a major 20th Century Fox movie soundtrack without even asking your permission let alone paying you a penny (er, cent). On the other hand, you can read it as being boilerplate and just the minimum needed to make sure they're not breaking the law by spreading your tune across their server farm, and of course in practice they wouldn't use it on Fox's TV or movies because they only have a crappy 128kbps version.... But, call me cynical, I'm not one to give Murdoch any blind trust or benefit of the doubt.

These stores will be powered by Snocap, which actually seems relatively competent. It's Shawn Fanning's attempt to go legit once he realized that Napster 2.0 was destined to be a spectacular failure. You can see a beta of the storefront at the Myspace page for The Format.

We do live in the information age/21st century and I am not at all surprised that this happened the way it did. And from what I heard on the news, Radio Shack Employees were told in advance that layoffs were coming in electronic format. What were they expecting?

http://www.myspace.com/BigAlBassMan

Social networking sites have a large role to play in making people less lonelier..Sites like Orkut, Myspace, Grupus, etc.. there are just so many of them, in different varieties and flavours, nowadays you end up interacting with a lot of people even from the confines of your home, even by just sitting in front of the box.

See social sites aren't all bad!

Facebook
MySpace
OKCupid (free dating site)

Hell think of all the underaged girls & boys you can meet and stalk! Hell it might even get you famous on TV!! Yea, Dateline!! (okay the last part was a joke)

Stay away from the moon, for The Intergalactic Moon War is still raging stiff.

The Living End

Homepage

Myspace

Online Store

Can I have this algorithm as a friend then? I'm strugling to reach double digits.

Some quick googling yielded this MySpace page with comments by some of the freaks who terrorized this guy.

Pretty disturbing to read them, they sound exactly like brainwashed cult members.

demonstrations at one's home using a loudspeaker; abusive graffiti, posters and stickers on one's car and house; invading offices and, damaging property and stealing documents; chaining gates shut, and blocking gates; physical assault including spraying cleaning fluid into one's eyes; smashing the windows of one's house while the individual's family was at home; flooding one's home while the individual was away; vandalizing one's car; firebombing one's car; bomb hoaxes; threatening telephone calls and letters including threats to kill or injure one's partner or children; e-mail bombs in an attempt to crash computers; sending continuous black faxes causing fax machines to burn out; telephone blockades by repeated dialing to prevent the use of the telephone; and arranging for an undertaker to call to collect one's body.

50. On or about August 10, 2002, members of the conspiracy, including defendant LAUREN GAZZOLA, assembled outside the home of RH, an employee of M. Corp. and, using a megaphone, threatened RH, his wife and family with burning down their home.