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Re:You know this makes America ...
Uh, how about Italy? You have a former PM, convicted of Tax Evasion threatening to break the coalition government because he wants to throw a tantrum.
I'm not trying to deflect from the current situation in the US but we don't have a lock on stupid. Also you'll find out as well that usually members of Congress will still get paid or will have their back pay paid in any deal that goes forward.
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Re:...and suddenly
Well, there is a before picture, and a image search for "martha stewart jail cell" brings up some amusing photo shops.
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Re:Europe
Seriously, what sort of incompetence do you have to have on display to have someone actually manage to patent the peanut butter and jelly sandwich?
Or the combover hairstyle. (Ostensibly to conceal baldness, but it usually just makes it more obvious...)
Or swinging sideways on a swingset.
There ain't shit that the US Patent Office does that passes any kind of smell test. The word incompetence doesn't begin to describe the situation.
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Re:Europe
Indeed. In the USA you can hand your stuff to a "standards body", then stab anyone who uses it in the back if your patent gets approved later (see also: Submarine Patents and Rambus's dishonesty a decade ago that drove up DRAM prices for a long while).
People can complain about the European patent system but they do a lot of things better than the USA:
- Stopping submarine patents and patent trolls.
- Actually doing due diligence on first-discovery vs. the nonsensical "first to file"
- Actually doing due diligence to keep the Obvious and Trivial patents out
- Actually doing due diligence to be sure someone isn't trying to patent something already patentedIn fact, overall the US patent office doesn't do "due diligence" on almost anything anymore. I can't blame them since they are far underfunded to handle the glut of patent-slamming from major US corporations, but it does kind of make the US patent system a laughingstock elsewhere in the modern world.
Seriously, what sort of incompetence do you have to have on display to have someone actually manage to patent the peanut butter and jelly sandwich?
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Re:Tell that to the people of Fukushima
I'd also point out that even if you treat the designs of these plants as typical (which they aren't, nor are they anything approaching the design of a plant that would be built today)
Typical? Does 23/104 23/104 plants in the US count as typical? Perhaps you are right to say that such a design wouldn't be built today though. At least, I hope that's right.
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Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next
Machetes work very well too.
That comparison's more than a bit disingenuous. From the link:
Chuwanga Gyang said he heard a gunshot early Sunday. He said he left his house through the back door but stopped when he realized that the attackers were shooting to herd fleeing villagers toward another group of attackers carrying machetes.
You're comparing Sandy Hook (one individual, primarily one weapon) to Dogo Nahawa (a group using machetes for killing, but wielding both guns and machetes).
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Re:Drudge and other U.S. bloggers are next
Impossible? Really?
Machetes work very well too.
The second amendment granted the PEOPLE the right to arms, not the government, and it was precisely to control the government that they were given these rights. It was fully expected that the PEOPLE would have the same arms as any soldier, which in this the modern era every citizen should be expected to have a fully automatic military long arm and a side arm.
See Switzerland. Vastly higher gun possession rate, gun death rate less than half of the US rate.
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Re:READ the Constitution Marissa
I think intent and specificity would have to come into play, or providing any service to the public could be treason.
it's easy to give in to vague threats from the govt, but if HSBC can get away with targeted money laundering for terrorists with a nominal fine it's harder to make the case the government would follow through.
However, just to be sure, I'm not paying taxes anymore. I'm feel reasonably assured that some of the tax money will get into terrorist hands, and I don't want to be a traitor.
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Re:Fr0sty Bin laden p1ss
I saw an article today that suggests that this may have actually came up at the G20:
In a further development, a spokesman for Putin said the Russian president had discussed the weapons handover plan with Obama at last week’s G-20 summit.
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Re:LOLThe NBC article on this includes this line, though:
In a further development, a spokesman for Vladimir Putin said the Russian president had discussed the weapons handover plan with Obama at last week’s G-20 summit.
So according to Russia, at least, this didn't come out of nowhere. It's been planned for a little bit. The reporter may have even been a planted question, a trial balloon for the official announcement.
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Re:Hand Sanitizer
No. It's antibiotics. Blaming it on hand cleaner is like running your AC, but complaining about how much charging your cell phone is running up your electric bill.
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/antibiotics-may-help-make-you-fat-studies-show-958812
Could antibiotics make you fat?
Two studies this week suggest that using antibiotics may save people’s lives, but could also change their metabolisms. Put together, the studies suggest that taking antibiotics might alter digestion to help people absorb calories from food they normally would be unable to digest.
Every human carries pounds of microorganisms that we couldn’t live without. They break down food and extract nutrients like Vitamin K for us. Antibiotics will kill some of these beneficial organisms, which is why so many doctors now tell patients to eat yogurt after taking a course of the drugs, to replace some of the good guys.
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Model aircraft season
Couple this incident with Colorado selling thousands of drone hunting permits and perhaps its time to find a safer hobby than model aircraft. Like say noodling
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Re:Crap ...
Remember when Samsung, Elpida, Micron, Mosel, Infineon, Hynix, Vitelic and NEC were sued for a total of $263 million dollars for price fixing? It wasn't the first and it won't be the last.
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Re: uhuh sure
Your mainstream press at work again...
...and so you link to the Washington Times, and completely destroy any credibility you might have had.
Two problems. One, the mainstream press did cover the story. Two, old rocket engines and old chemical weapons shells in dumps and scrapyards tell us only that Iraq used to have WMD --- never a contentious point.
The conclusion that Iraq had no WMD at the time of the American attack isn't some liberal media (ha!) conspiracy, it's the conclusion of the gorram CIA.
Bush lied, and the Fox "News" set continues to lie, about Iraq.
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Re:Amended quote
Maybe they read this.
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A possible *dork* side to AI
when coupled with their AI (like this one which can take exams), can become, if the Japanese wish to, a formidable force of war bots
I've written code. I haven't worked directly on an AI project, but I've been around them in academia.
The coding (and 'AI' I guess you could say) and software for taking some kind of entrance exam and differentiating targets and choosing which to kill on a battlefield are two separate things.
You're in LA LA land...as in L.A....Los Angeles...Hollywood to be exact...you're theory is not very plausible
Sure, governments do weapons research and call it toy research or whathave you...maybe you're onto something with the Aibo robot dog...
But the Israelis and others just develop this shit right in the open...probably with an eye towards selling it
I think the whole 'let's fear AI' thing is misplaced (there are legit issues...keeping humans in the loop for kill shots on drones for example)...it's the humans who are in control of the technology we need to keep accountable.
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Re:And just maybe...
But that would involve admitting some facts, instead of citing natural temperature changes only to cover things contrary to your view, and dismiss when they actively contradict your views. It's also better instead to assume that anyone who believes different has been taken by a scam artist.
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Re:Nintendo's taking a lot of flak for this...
parents like myself don't want my kid playing in 3D so its not a feature loss
Can't tell if you're serious or not, but we live in a 3D reality, are you really worried 3D is going to hurt their vision?
Yes, there are reports and warnings that forced 3D perspective has negative effects on eye development of young children. While there's also reports to the contrary, it's worth paying attention to (and doesn't appear to be just ignorant fear-mongering):
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Re:Nintendo's taking a lot of flak for this...
parents like myself don't want my kid playing in 3D so its not a feature loss
Can't tell if you're serious or not, but we live in a 3D reality, are you really worried 3D is going to hurt their vision?
Yes, there are reports and warnings that forced 3D perspective has negative effects on eye development of young children. While there's also reports to the contrary, it's worth paying attention to (and doesn't appear to be just ignorant fear-mongering):
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Re:Official Secrets Act?
"How is the Official Secrets Act not adequate to cover this?"
I think he means they're going after the IT staff, the current legislation only applies to high officials
.."Most of the legislation about state secrets is in the Official Secrets Act and it only concerns an official
.. I think there is going to have to be a look at what happens when somebody possesses material which is secret without having authority"You've got that wrong pal - every single civil servant, from high official to gardener, must sign the OSA before being allowed to accept the job. It's a part of the basic contract for every direct government employee and most contractors - it only covers anything learned during the time you were employed of course.
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Re:Official Secrets Act?
"How is the Official Secrets Act not adequate to cover this?"
I think he means they're going after the IT staff, the current legislation only applies to high officials ..
"Most of the legislation about state secrets is in the Official Secrets Act and it only concerns an official .. I think there is going to have to be a look at what happens when somebody possesses material which is secret without having authority" -
Re:So much for the US Tech Industry
Why would any country trust a closed-sourced product produced by a US Technology firm?
Because the Chinese, French, Germans, British, Swedes, and Finns aren't much different?
Officials say Chinese spies have targeted every sector of the U.S. economy
Supo wants expanded net surveillance powers
The German Prism: Berlin Wants to Spy Too
Boeing Called A Target Of French Spy EffortIt's just that there is a combination of ignorance of the spying by other countries and disdain towards the US for not being quite European enough. Time will probably reduce that.
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Re:Version 2.0
http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/hackers-tiny-50-spy-computer-hides-offices-drops-drones-158197
Depends they might go for a home smoke/carbon monoxide detector with power for a long time :) -
This is A Distraction From the NSA Scandal
Considering today news is breaking about the NSA monitoring 75% of all domestic US internet traffic, and logging all domestic emails, as well as their plans for a national facial recognition system (as in live video feeds), it seems obvious to me that they sentenced him today and announced it in this way in an effort to distract us from what really matters.
Sources: http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/nsa-has-access-75-percent-us-internet-traffic-says-wsj-6C10967780
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Re:Apparently they have a reason
You're far more likely to die in an auto accident or of heart disease... Where's all the fear of automobiles and fast food?
Indeed. About 3000 people have died from terrorism *since* 2001 10 times more people die (PDF warning) *each year* by suicide. The numbers and justifications for all this "yeahbut think of teh terroristss!!" malarkey is just that. Malarkey. Malarkey based on irrational fear, scooped up and eaten by a drama staved public.
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Re:I could photograph your license plate
Yes you can private citizen, though It would be very difficult for you to photograph everyone's license plate at various locations all around the city 24/7 and store them forever. And you certainly can't link that person's phone records, bank records, browsing habits, etc.
I agree with the sentiment, but sadly it is out of date. License plates need to be completely rethought in lieu of the new capabilities available to both big brother (government) and little brother (citizenry).
First it was only repo-men: License plate data not just for cops: Private companies are tracking your car
But the allure of monetizing those databases was too much, so the lobbying began: MVTRAC Spearheads Victory Over California SB 1330
And now the same companies that do track your phone calls, your bank records and your browsing habits are also selling license-plate tracking data:
Data Brokers Are Now Selling Your Car's Location For $10 OnlineAnd just for shits and giggles I'm going to throw this one in, brought to you by those data brokers: Your employer may share your salary, and Equifax might sell that data
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Re:I could photograph your license plate
Yes you can private citizen, though It would be very difficult for you to photograph everyone's license plate at various locations all around the city 24/7 and store them forever. And you certainly can't link that person's phone records, bank records, browsing habits, etc.
I agree with the sentiment, but sadly it is out of date. License plates need to be completely rethought in lieu of the new capabilities available to both big brother (government) and little brother (citizenry).
First it was only repo-men: License plate data not just for cops: Private companies are tracking your car
But the allure of monetizing those databases was too much, so the lobbying began: MVTRAC Spearheads Victory Over California SB 1330
And now the same companies that do track your phone calls, your bank records and your browsing habits are also selling license-plate tracking data:
Data Brokers Are Now Selling Your Car's Location For $10 OnlineAnd just for shits and giggles I'm going to throw this one in, brought to you by those data brokers: Your employer may share your salary, and Equifax might sell that data
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Re:Original article worth a read
All I can say is, HOLY PLUTONIUM Batman! Not residue from tests, but hundreds of pounds of plutonium metal in useable form. Enough for dozens of nuclear bombs. And they capped it and left it there! And now they are telling the world where it is. I'm speechless. (Other than the preceding text of course.)
With the collapse of the soviet union, packing up that much plutonium and trucking it back to Russia would have been a fools errand. I suspect those involved didn't expect the disruption to be permanent, and didn't think the local population had any capability utilize it, or to even understand what they had under their feet.
But still, there are horror stories almost as bad right here in the US. The Hanford site is again leaking and DOE was perfectly happy to ignore it for years.
Do you suppose the Russians would reciprocate and sent people to help with Hanford?
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Re:Where will this end?
Educate yourself: Lavabit founder has specifically stated that he did not wat to compromise the privacy of his users.
Source: https://lavabit.com/
My Fellow Users,
I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly ten years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit. After significant soul searching, I have decided to suspend operations. I wish that I could legally share with you the events that led to my decision. I cannot. I feel you deserve to know what’s going on--the first amendment is supposed to guarantee me the freedom to speak out in situations like this. Unfortunately, Congress has passed laws that say otherwise. As things currently stand, I cannot share my experiences over the last six weeks, even though I have twice made the appropriate requests.
What’s going to happen now? We’ve already started preparing the paperwork needed to continue to fight for the Constitution in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. A favorable decision would allow me resurrect Lavabit as an American company.
This experience has taught me one very important lesson: without congressional action or a strong judicial precedent, I would _strongly_ recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States.
Sincerely,
Ladar Levison
Owner and Operator, Lavabit LLCHe has also stated that he could be arrested for shutting down his site:
I may be ''rather fucking stupid'' as you say, but, at this stage, I trust Lavabit more than I trust the NSA.
And please learn the difference between "convent" and "convenient". I am not a religious person and I have no intention of ever becoming a monk.
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Re:Would not have expected?
I assume that doesn't cover outrages by criminals and terrorists.
Sure it does. Criminals like Barack Obama and James Clapper have abused our rights and deserve to be the targets of outrage.
But I presume you mean typical street criminals and cave dwelling muslims half way across the country. Certainly they deserve outrage too, but since crime is at historical lows, and terrorism causes deaths in the range of a few dozen on an average year* it's not surprising that outrage is low.
*an average year not including 2001. But if you want to discuss 2001, consider that the deaths due to terrorism in 2001 were fewer than the deaths due to our government's response to 2001. Where 3000 people died in the WTC on 9/11, 4500 US citizens died in Iraq, and around half a million Iraqi's died. Once again proving that the US government is a greater threat than islamic terrorism.
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Re:Reuters lies
Greenwald has not threatened to be more aggressive with his reporting regarding the UK secret services and to release more documents about their activities. Reuters made that up out of whole cloth, go read his actual words.
Apparently ACs can lie as well. Greenwald not only said he will be more aggressive, but more or less directly threatened the UK.
Snowden leak journalist: Britain will 'regret' detaining partner at airport
"I will be more aggressive in my reporting from now,” he told reporters in Portuguese at Rio de Janeiro’s airport where he met his boyfriend David Miranda who had flown from London to Brazil.
"I have many more documents to report on, including ones about the UK, where I'll now focus more," he said. "It'll backfire. I think they'll come to regret it."
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Cars are dying, so...
The rate at which 16-year-olds are getting driver's licenses is dropping quickly, so it makes sense that anything attached to the car industry is going to be in its end days (see WNYC report). Look at who's buying cars, too - baby boomers are far more likely than young adults to be buying cars (see NBC Business report). They have the money, plus they've had decades of conditioning that a car is a necessity of life. Young folk haven't been brainwashed, and are far more likely to structure their lives to use more efficient and enjoyable modes of transportation (walking, biking, public transit). Once the baby boomers are too old to drive, I bet this entire sector of the economy will shrink rapidly.
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Re:MNF
Well, I can watch Rachel Maddow here. Monday Night Football requires a subscription to ESPN. If you want to watch it live you either (a) need to pay for it or (b) need to go to a bar. I'll go to a bar. It's usually more fun anyway.
If I don't care about watching it live, there's NFL Game Rewind.. $69.99 for all the games from all the teams, including playoffs and Super Bowl. If you have a favorite team, you can watch their games for $29.99, but no playoff or Super Bowl (Yeah, like your favorite team is going to make it to the Super Bowl! HA!)
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Re:Yet the US media downplay the body count
Wall Street Journal:Nearly 100 dead.
USA Today: Nearly 100 dead
CNN: 95-200 dead
NBC: At least 95 dead
Fox News: Nearly 100 dead
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Which technology will prevail...?
Pie in the skyrmion...
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Re: It's called a capture card...
Yeah, this article is biased, but not incorrect. Namely, they forgot to point out that the PS4, for the first time in the console history, will require its subscription (PlayStation Plus) for online play. Here's a more even take on how both consoles are ramping up their profits: http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/pay-play-xbox-one-playstation-4-differ-premium-features-6C10874607.
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Most Chinese computers are already infected
In May, Panda Labs (not Express) published a study suggesting that 55% of computers in China are infected by malware. http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/half-chinas-computers-infected-malware-study-finds-1B8290982 I had the pleasure of cleaning up malware on friends' computers while living in China, back when XP was the dominant OS. Though my sample size was small, I believe the Panda Labs number comes much closer to reality than what is captured by the afterthought that is Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool. Popular programs like QQ are laden with security holes that essentially invite any hacker to take control of a PC. The end of XP updates may cause extra few million computers to be infected, but it will be a drop in the bucket compared to the true problem. My advice is- don't trust personal computers in China or email servers in China.
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Re:Seriously? Yes!
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Re:What a clusterf**k.
Take your own advice. One way Britain's NHS saves money is by not covering expensive anti-cancer drugs. It makes more sense, financially, to let women die from breast cancer.
Because we all know that private health insurance companies never refuse or deny people certain treatments, right? What a ridiculously silly complaint especially when insurance companies are terribly about trying to deny coverage and play all sorts of games to weasel out of paying even what they claim to cover.
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Ironic: That's what Ventura calls government!
That former wrestler even says politics are scripted just like wrestling which was why he left it. There are no 2 parties, no democrats or republicans. There is the wizard of oz behind the curtain living off your tax dollars and his stock market insider trading rigged investments (and at 1/2 the tax rate on those investments @ 17% to you being currently taxed @ 33.3% on your wageslave wages, that is, until they export out your job overseas since labor is the easiest cost to control since plant/property/equipment are on lease, not owned, allowing for such heinous quick mobility on their end). I'd listen to Alex Jones on some things. However, a lot less than Jesse Ventura. He's been inside the machine (and you saw what he thought of it). Jones, hasn't. The fiat money system backed by GDP. Great. Until you stop being a manufacturing power (which we aren't anymore & in fact have "rebuilt" competition by giving away our taxes for offshore competitors to build such infrastructure). What happens then? Inflation. How?? Take away folks disposable income from GOOD paying jobs (powers that be don't want that - costs, but is an overhead that's easily controlled by offshoring jobs). Problem being is that those folks "fold" on their debts (a dumb thing to get into, an illusion of ownership you don't really have, only on loan from banks). That means prices go up on money too. Now, smaller businesses die. That forces their suppliers to raise prices. This continues all through the economic foodchain. What's the illegal FED do? Print more FIAT monopoly money (which has lost 98% of its purchasing power vs. the time when it was based on Gold/Silver). Then they *tried* bundling pension funds (contruction men and others in hedge funds + derivatives) and selling them to other financial institutions around the planet. How many of those are defaulted or currently doing so? See here http://www.nbcnews.com/business/pandemic-pension-woes-plaguing-nation-6C10825512?ocid=msnhp&pos=1 very recently/current news. This is the price of Keynsian economics. This is the price of poor leadership that don't understand this. Why? Smart men who are aware of all of this, aren't allowed in offices of political power. The ones put there? Financed by the wealthy. Try buy TV or radio time enough to run for big offices. Good luck. That's THE cutoff measure in that. The main one. Let's see: Former governor + Navy Seal vs. somersault. Who do you pay attention to? Not you, troll on the payroll.
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here's a left wing link for ya haters...
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Re:Before anybody asks...
How about we get Linus to bury some code in there so we can spy on the NSA? See how they like it?
The Chinese, Russians, and no doubt other countries are way ahead of you. They love spying on the NSA. They seem to be getting volunteer help these days too. What do you think Linus will bring to the game?
Do you think Linus will be interested in doing anything about people trying to set off car bombs at public ceremonies? Or will we still be stuck with the FBI and NSA? If Linus isn't interested in doing anything, do you think the NSA should be crippled?
FBI: alleged Christmas tree bomber thought 9/11 'was awesome'
Report: Canadian Terrorists Planned Truck Bomb Attack
Suicide truck bomb kills 14 in Russia
3 sought after 2nd car bomb found in LondonI know, you're frustrated. There is plenty to be frustrated about from just about every perspective on this. The sad part is that the only people likely to really benefit are the people that want to set of the bombs to kill innocents.
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I fail to see the reasoning behind this
The Pentagon has been giving away secrets for years[1] (and they aren't the only ones) due to, what can only be assumed to be, very poor security policies. What's more, even the farmed-out[2] work to privatized military industries has fallen victim to much of the same, even jeopardizing the welfare of other countries. Tell me now, how is it these members of the US Congress thinks it's ok to fry Snowdens ass, but ignore the gross negligence of others which is responsible for some very big losses both in the taxpayer money, as well as technical miltary advantages?
[1] http://www.scmagazine.com/previously-classified-malwares-role-in-pentagon-attack/article/177561/
[2] http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/28/18556787-chinese-hackers-steal-us-weapons-systems-designs-report-says?lite -
Agreed, 110% & how/why... apk
Since Gen. Alexander & president Obama did "last second 'lobbying'" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/24/justin-amash-amendment_n_3647893.html [huffingtonpost.com] ONLY - & yes, I strongly suspect that of those mere 7 votes, the ones that sent it over the top were coerced. After all, nobody's going to tell me that J. Edgar Hoover style blackmail tactics or bribes/favors (ala lobbyists, since that is all that really is with another term assigned to it) didn't take place. Nobody in their RIGHT MIND likes this stuff going on, period. Nobody. Clapper & Alexander outright LIED to congress (twisting words using DIRECTLY, just like how they CLAIM there is no easy CENTRAL way to query their own mail but they do it to everyone else - I found that hilarious & disgusting, since mail is really DBMail and to select/insert/update/delete into those, you NEED to have abilities for that... What they told us, unless someone can show me otherwise, is total bullshit. Hypocritical bullshit). It's wrong. Just like screwing with protesters was. Just like the IRS used against political opponents of the current regime in office. I started looking at all of this madness & lunacy and just was utterly disgusted. Most folks, are. This is insane. Truly insane. Why does this concern me and it should you all as well? I was told decades ago by a history professor of mine in collegiate academia this: "Totalitarian regimes start with 'little laws' they pass, getting an inch, & reaching for a mile: Before you know it, you are Nazi Germany/Soviet Russia USA: DO NOT THINK IT CANNOT HAPPEN HERE" & even former President Carter feels the same http://now.msn.com/jimmy-carter-says-the-nsa-has-eliminated-a-functioning-democracy [msn.com] I used to think HISTORY was a waste of my time then. That was until I figured out that the "powers that be" use it as a guidebook for scamming the populace. Polishing up the mistakes those that set the pattern for what they're doing messed up on, & just trying it again, often a generation or two later. These guys have to be reined in. No questions asked. Why? "Absolute Power Corrupting Absolutely". Sooner or later, that kind of power goes to ANYONE's head and they will abuse it. Heck, they lied to Congress, nothing was done. The head of the IRS didn't lose her job either. I suspect that Clapper, Alexander, & the IRS head told Obama "Pal, you fire me? I will let the dogs out on the FACT you gave ME THE 'GO-AHEAD' to do these things and I will take you down with me. Try it!". That's how "politicians" operate. Thuggery, bribery, etc. and the USA isn't happy either http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/23/19644154-nbcwsj-poll-faith-in-dc-hits-a-low-83-percent-disapprove-of-congress?lite [nbcnews.com] and I certainly didn't see their machinations stop the Boston Bomber either. The trade off/cost-benefit ratio of effectiveness vs. actual crmiinals with their bogus programs is far outweighed by the potentials for misuse. As far as misuse of powers? See just SOME of the examples above that make folks have that all-time low faith in government. What they're doing is dangerous to us all, no questions asked, & fits the pattern described to me by my former history Prof. (smart man, he left a real impression on me back in 1985 with that statement quoted above in fact. I never forgot it, but felt then as a young man it was bullshit... funny how his words are coming to pass now, nearly 30 yrs. later).
APK
P.S.=> Quotes from that article: Conyers said the lobbying "was heavy. They were very worried about it." But, he added, "the fact that they won this narrowly means they still are worried -- because this thing isn't over yet. This is just the beginning
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That's FAR from over (by 7 votes)...apk
Since Gen. Alexander & president Obama did "last second 'lobbying'" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/24/justin-amash-amendment_n_3647893.html ONLY - & yes, I strongly suspect that of those mere 7 votes, the ones that sent it over the top were coerced. After all, nobody's going to tell me that J. Edgar Hoover style blackmail tactics or bribes/favors (ala lobbyists, since that is all that really is with another term assigned to it) didn't take place. Nobody in their RIGHT MIND likes this stuff going on, period. Nobody. Clapper & Alexander outright LIED to congress (twisting words using DIRECTLY, just like how they CLAIM there is no easy CENTRAL way to query their own mail but they do it to everyone else - I found that hilarious & disgusting, since mail is really DBMail and to select/insert/update/delete into those, you NEED to have abilities for that... What they told us, unless someone can show me otherwise, is total bullshit. Hypocritical bullshit). It's wrong. Just like screwing with protesters was. Just like the IRS used against political opponents of the current regime in office. I started looking at all of this madness & lunacy and just was utterly disgusted. Most folks, are. This is insane. Truly insane. Why does this concern me and it should you all as well? I was told decades ago by a history professor of mine in collegiate academia this: "Totalitarian regimes start with 'little laws' they pass, getting an inch, & reaching for a mile: Before you know it, you are Nazi Germany/Soviet Russia USA: DO NOT THINK IT CANNOT HAPPEN HERE" & even former President Carter feels the same http://now.msn.com/jimmy-carter-says-the-nsa-has-eliminated-a-functioning-democracy I used to think HISTORY was a waste of my time then. That was until I figured out that the "powers that be" use it as a guidebook for scamming the populace. Polishing up the mistakes those that set the pattern for what they're doing messed up on, & just trying it again, often a generation or two later. These guys have to be reined in. No questions asked. Why? "Absolute Power Corrupting Absolutely". Sooner or later, that kind of power goes to ANYONE's head and they will abuse it. Heck, they lied to Congress, nothing was done. The head of the IRS didn't lose her job either. I suspect that Clapper, Alexander, & the IRS head told Obama "Pal, you fire me? I will let the dogs out on the FACT you gave ME THE 'GO-AHEAD' to do these things and I will take you down with me. Try it!". That's how "politicians" operate. Thuggery, bribery, etc. and the USA isn't happy either http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/23/19644154-nbcwsj-poll-faith-in-dc-hits-a-low-83-percent-disapprove-of-congress?lite and I certainly didn't see their machinations stop the Boston Bomber either. The trade off/cost-benefit ratio of effectiveness vs. actual crmiinals with their bogus programs is far outweighed by the potentials for misuse. As far as misuse of powers? See just SOME of the examples above that make folks have that all-time low faith in government. What they're doing is dangerous to us all, no questions asked, & fits the pattern described to me by my former history Prof. (smart man, he left a real impression on me back in 1985 with that statement quoted above in fact. I never forgot it, but felt then as a young man it was bullshit... funny how his words are coming to pass now, nearly 30 yrs. later).
APK
P.S.=> Quotes from that article: Conyers said the lobbying "was heavy. They were very worried about it." But, he added, "the fact that they won this narrowly means they still are worried -- because this thing isn't over yet. This is just the beginning."
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Re:Hmmm
As I commented to someone else actually I'm a firm believer in alternative energy sources. I would love to see more hydrogen powered cars because I believe there is significant risks with oil drilling and the deaths it causes. I don't believe any power source is 100% safe, but I do believe in reduction of risks.
I don't think you should tote the
,line though. People have always feared radiation and for good reason. Governments and corporations do love
nuclear power plants as they're a cheap profitable way to generate electricity. Deaths are always downplayed.You can get yet you will be told every other thing that can cause it, and that psht...radiation probably had nothing to do with it,
unless you have hard proof.Probably should have a read at that too - that's just the things we find out about. People often do not get the full details of the true risks.
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Sign artist has now been ID'd
According to NBC News, the fake drone signs were a bit of performance art by a local guy named Stephen Whisler. He described his motivation as " partially political and partially a prank".
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Re:IRS Too?
But just my one local metropolis has more weapon-firing incidents in any given year than some countries,
As an example (in case someone calls you out on this) German police fired just 85 bullets in 2011
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Re:Wake up
Hi BM, I did a quick google search and found the following chart:
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/27/16196680-police-deaths-down-23-percent-this-year-across-us?lite
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/AJDocs/121227_PoliceDeaths.pdf has a chart.
Is the US counting in new ways? Trying to reduce compensation costs from the 1970's numbers?
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Re:Biased thinking
And if someone at the school had a gun, no one there would have gotten hurt at all. In fact, if the assailant had known about such a gun he may not have attacked at all. We can play the "if" game all day.
Fact is, lots of mass murders happen without firearms being involved.
Such as this one, where the assailants were armed only with box-cutters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacksOr this one, which was actually linked in my previous link and you chose to ignore.
http://behindthewall.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/21/14014789-ax-wielding-man-kills-3-kids-wounds-13-in-china?liteAnd here's another.
http://www.biography.com/people/andrew-kehoe-235986And here's one with a kitchen knife.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacreNow go fuck off, troll.