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How fast THIS link can shut
up the idiot BSD is dying crowd. :) It's like
the ultimate middle finger to any anti-bsd mouth-breather. :)
I suggest bookmarking it and spreading it liberally.
You'll NEVER hear a single convincing arguement to
explain away the obvious stability advantage FreeBSD
has over EVERY other OS that has ever existed.

I mean even the server follows the spirit of the exhibits!

I believe eBay's running 2000 at the datacenter but here's what their webserver is running

Or check here...

they are. Ok, a newer version. But we'll ignore that.

Hmm....here in Amsterdam, I can get through Amsterdam.Level3.net to Paris.Level3.net...etc, etc, all very normal.

Then I gets interesting...it goes via 'unkown.Level3.net' to 213.30.129.210 and 213.30.128.126.

Why is that interesting? Well, because the 213.30.xxx.xxx space seems to be in the hands of COMPLETEL-SAS-FRANCE as this Netcraft Report indicates. The report also tells us that 'COMPLETEL-SAS-FRANCE' runs www.acfci.cci.fr (which is UP), www.aljazeera.net and aljazeera.net (which are both DOWN), though Netcraft gives a uptime of 3 days to them both.

This is news for nerds after all! A little bit of research on my part has revealed the following:

1. DNS servers for aljazeera.net are ALJNS1SA.NAV-LINK.net. 172800 IN A 217.26.193.15
   NS3.aljazeera.net. 172800 IN A 213.30.180.218 Neither DNS server can be accessed or pinged. A traceroute to 217.26.193.15 bombed out very close to home as unreachable (5th hop, still in my ISP). A traceroute for 213.30.180.218 got to Paris, then to an unknown location on the same network and then it made three jumps to IPs and got stuck! It ended at (s/star*/*/, damn lameness filter) 12 2547 ms 2543 ms 2359 ms so-1-0-0.mp1.Paris1.Level3.net [212.187.128.41]
   13 3124 ms 2295 ms 1919 ms unknown.Level3.net [212.73.240.71]
   14 2078 ms 2735 ms 3383 ms 212.73.242.66
   15 2377 ms 2263 ms 2262 ms 213.30.129.210
   16 2359 ms 2479 ms 2327 ms 213.30.128.126
   17 star* star* star* Request timed out.
   ...
   100 star* star* star* Request timed out.
2. netcraft's report shows up two ip addresses and two netblock owners for www.aljazeera.net (either constant changing or more likely load-balancing). The netblock owners are French Navlink for 217.26.193.10 and Horizons Media and Information Services Private Residence Hoboken NJ 07030 US for 64.106.198.10, though this IP was registered to ARIN until the 21st March. Both are running IIS/5 and it looks like they've been doing things daily from the 20th-25th March. Both IP addresses are un pingable. The 217 address also drops at one of my ISPs boxes on a traceroute, while the 64 address gets dropped at a verio ip in london.
3. The whois record for aljazeera is a little strange (Jazeera Space Channel, hotmail address and po box?).

Symantec have a incredible list of recent threats (I was stunned how long it was). 6 were discovered since the 24th of March including 3 backdoors. Is it reasonable to think that this could simply be a virus/worm/backdoor based DOS?

I can't see this conspiracy theory working; riaa.org has been down since forever (and might I just say what a shame that is ;-) so they can't have exchanged any emails...

BTW, the uptime graphs for riaa.org never cease to amuse me. Hardly helps Microsoft's case in their "Extinct Hackers" advertising campaign!

Lucky you. At 2:30AM you got to 3.1. By 5 AM, you get the fist page but nothing else. I'd say the DoS bots are more responsible for that than actual Slashdot readers so early in the morning, still many things don't add up about that site.

How can it be that I can consistently see the first page, and other pages of Neowin but not the later pages? Why is it that a site that's so obviously infatuated with M$ garbage is Running run on Apache and Linux? No, not just the Windoze evolution stuff, the whole site. From the hideous AOL rip off "community" icons of MSN to the topics of every artilce it's all M$. Strange how their 20 day average uptime looks more like their favorite OS than it does anything else such as the 100 day averages of Debian or the Free Software Foundation (both linux) or even the New York Times(solaris). Yeah, whatever. There's no telling what their front page junk is doing to Hurricane Electric, the site host.

No big deal. I've seen and have a copy of windows 2 on a 286 and I've been unfortuneate enough to have used everything between 3.1 and 2000. Nothing much changes. IEEEEEEEE! It hurts, make it stop. Make it stop, please.

Lucky you. At 2:30AM you got to 3.1. By 5 AM, you get the fist page but nothing else. I'd say the DoS bots are more responsible for that than actual Slashdot readers so early in the morning, still many things don't add up about that site.

How can it be that I can consistently see the first page, and other pages of Neowin but not the later pages? Why is it that a site that's so obviously infatuated with M$ garbage is Running run on Apache and Linux? No, not just the Windoze evolution stuff, the whole site. From the hideous AOL rip off "community" icons of MSN to the topics of every artilce it's all M$. Strange how their 20 day average uptime looks more like their favorite OS than it does anything else such as the 100 day averages of Debian or the Free Software Foundation (both linux) or even the New York Times(solaris). Yeah, whatever. There's no telling what their front page junk is doing to Hurricane Electric, the site host.

No big deal. I've seen and have a copy of windows 2 on a 286 and I've been unfortuneate enough to have used everything between 3.1 and 2000. Nothing much changes. IEEEEEEEE! It hurts, make it stop. Make it stop, please.

Lucky you. At 2:30AM you got to 3.1. By 5 AM, you get the fist page but nothing else. I'd say the DoS bots are more responsible for that than actual Slashdot readers so early in the morning, still many things don't add up about that site.

How can it be that I can consistently see the first page, and other pages of Neowin but not the later pages? Why is it that a site that's so obviously infatuated with M$ garbage is Running run on Apache and Linux? No, not just the Windoze evolution stuff, the whole site. From the hideous AOL rip off "community" icons of MSN to the topics of every artilce it's all M$. Strange how their 20 day average uptime looks more like their favorite OS than it does anything else such as the 100 day averages of Debian or the Free Software Foundation (both linux) or even the New York Times(solaris). Yeah, whatever. There's no telling what their front page junk is doing to Hurricane Electric, the site host.

No big deal. I've seen and have a copy of windows 2 on a 286 and I've been unfortuneate enough to have used everything between 3.1 and 2000. Nothing much changes. IEEEEEEEE! It hurts, make it stop. Make it stop, please.

Lucky you. At 2:30AM you got to 3.1. By 5 AM, you get the fist page but nothing else. I'd say the DoS bots are more responsible for that than actual Slashdot readers so early in the morning, still many things don't add up about that site.

How can it be that I can consistently see the first page, and other pages of Neowin but not the later pages? Why is it that a site that's so obviously infatuated with M$ garbage is Running run on Apache and Linux? No, not just the Windoze evolution stuff, the whole site. From the hideous AOL rip off "community" icons of MSN to the topics of every artilce it's all M$. Strange how their 20 day average uptime looks more like their favorite OS than it does anything else such as the 100 day averages of Debian or the Free Software Foundation (both linux) or even the New York Times(solaris). Yeah, whatever. There's no telling what their front page junk is doing to Hurricane Electric, the site host.

No big deal. I've seen and have a copy of windows 2 on a 286 and I've been unfortuneate enough to have used everything between 3.1 and 2000. Nothing much changes. IEEEEEEEE! It hurts, make it stop. Make it stop, please.

Jobugeek wrote: "For those of you who have used all of them, I'm sorry." Why? I have produced a lot of stuff using Windows? I don't think Windows is _that_ bad even if I mostly use Linux today.

Also, there has been a lot of sarcasms in the previous posts regarding the slashdotted site. But checking with www.netcraft.com one sees their server's setup:

"The site www.neowin.net is running Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) mod_log_bytes/1.0 mod_bwlimited/1.0 PHP/4.3.1 FrontPage/5.0.2.2510 mod_ssl/2.8.12 OpenSSL/0.9.7 on Linux."

22 comments on the story, and the site is already experiencing the full force of the /. effect. I wonder what OS that server's running? Oh. Well, that blows my theory out of the water. You know, this was a lot funnier BEFORE I went to netcraft.

22 comments on the story, and the site is already experiencing the full force of the /. effect. I wonder what OS that server's running? Oh. Well, that blows my theory out of the water.

You know, this was a lot funnier BEFORE I went to netcraft.

Wed Jan 8 01:13:35 EST 2003
1:13am up 344 days, 15:07, 1 user, load average: 0.20, 0.31, 0.32

Wed Jan 8 01:13:35 EST 2003
1:13am up 344 days, 15:07, 1 user, load average: 0.20, 0.31, 0.32

The article mentions that this will be of particular interest for web servers.

Why? Gzip already uses minimal processor time...and many sites already use Mod_Gzip...

So, as far as I'm concerned, unless the Mod_Gzip project supports this hardware,it's not gonna float...

The article mentions that this will be of particular interest for web servers.

Why? Gzip already uses minimal processor time...and many sites already use Mod_Gzip...

So, as far as I'm concerned, unless the Mod_Gzip project supports this hardware,it's not gonna float...

The article mentions that this will be of particular interest for web servers.

Why? Gzip already uses minimal processor time...and many sites already use Mod_Gzip...

So, as far as I'm concerned, unless the Mod_Gzip project supports this hardware,it's not gonna float...

The article mentions that this will be of particular interest for web servers.

Why? Gzip already uses minimal processor time...and many sites already use Mod_Gzip...

So, as far as I'm concerned, unless the Mod_Gzip project supports this hardware,it's not gonna float...

isn't it wonderfully diplomatic how they avoid mentioning the "bad software" by name. we all know that win admins are the ones planning their firefighting, while the rest of us just plan our new deployments. at least these guys are eating the dogfood they are shouting.

To celebrate RMS birthday I set up a GNU/Hurd machine. Check out http://absturz.htu.tuwien.ac.at.

And don't let netcraft fool you. They don't have their OS-detection-logic up to date. Neighter has nmap.

And if you can't reach it, that's a feature (TM) since it's stability is worse than Win 3.0 with DR-Dos 7 underneath it.

For a while now, Netcraft has reported Wal-Mart as running IIS 5.0 on Linux or Solaris :) See for yourself

If you use NetCraft to see what Iowa State is running, it says they are using /bin/sh as their webserver. Here are the results.

Is this related? How do they do that? It must be a joke.

If you use NetCraft to see what Iowa State is running, it says they are using /bin/sh as their webserver. Here are the results.

Is this related? How do they do that? It must be a joke.

walmart.com

A lot of sites have to eat their own dogfood, like hotmail. Now they needn't any longer. If they can change their fingerprint, they can run linux and make it look like they're running NT. (They used to run FreeBSD earlier.)

The folks at netcraft use these kinds of techniques for getting their server stats. Modifying the TCP/IP stack will screw up their stats collection :(

Someone else elluded to this point but I wanted to elaborate... where does the $$ start, and where does it stop? Look at global economics. My dollar will go everywhere!

So, I just bought a Bic pen. Blue, medium ball.
The money I used went to Bic, which went toward software licensing for BICWORLD web server which is IIS which is a Microsoft product.

So... MY$$ -> BIC -> MSFT -> Benevolence -> Al Queda -> Terror

Best not spend money. Of course that would ruin the US economy and the terrorists have won. So spend the money to stimulate the economy but then the people in the US will drive their SUVs more...

Nothing left to do. Might as well move to a cave but then your landlord is likely to be a tall guy named Osama. We are screwed!

[Sorry, I hit Submit instead of Preview]

According to Netcraft, there are almost 100,000 web servers running Mandrake (look for Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer).

I thought their target market was educational users and the desktop...
Think again ;-)

According to , there are almost 100,000 web servers running Mandrake (look for Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer).

I thought their target market was educational users and the desktop...

Think again ;-)

HAHAHAHA

Following your link I found this;

http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.hs.sl l.se

-ac

You might try this.

You can also view the time line of Massachusett's involvment in the antitrust trial.

Good luck navigating our Attorney General's website - the information may be there, but it's hard to find.

On a completely unrelated tangent, the Massachusetts Government Portal runs on a Netscape Enterprise Server under Solaris 8. Apparently they've had over a year of uptime, after switching away from IIS. (With a brief transition to Apache.) Apparently this isn't the first time the state has moved away from Microsoft.

Don't upgrade to 2.4! If you do, then Linux will never beat FreeBSD in the uptime department!

Interestingly SCO itself appears to be boycotting SCO UNIX! Look what they're running!

Ok, ok. Now go to Netcraft, and check which OS they're running... That's right! They run Linux, the very OS that they despise so much! What morons they are...

And here are a couple more funny links:

• We hate Linux, and we can't spell (If you use Linux, you've seen this link already. I'm just posting it here for the benefit of those who might use Internet Explorer)
• Your resolution is inferior. You suck.
• We love to annoy! Full-screen window here you come! And if you don't know how to close that sucker, too bad for your unsaved work!

www.sun.com doesn't run Mac OS or Windows NT (as others suggested). It runs Netscape-Enterprise/6.0 on Solaris 8.

A more authorative answer from netcraft:
Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) AuthMySQL/2.20 mod_log_bytes/1.0 mod_bwlimited/1.0 PHP/4.3.0 FrontPage/5.0.2.2510 on Linux

The IP address that's returned from the site is the property of the US Department of Justice: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.isone ws.com&submit=Examine

"The site www.activewin.com is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000"

Does anyone see the irony?
heh

Interestingly, and on a somewhat related note, that credit card processor, Data Processors International, appears to run IIS as their primary webserver. Now, if that's their front line server despite its notoriety, are they running Microsoft software anywhere else? Probably.

What's the only good reason to run IIS? Almost instant integration with other Microsoft software (like databases full of credit card numbers?).

I'd peg >50% chance that a Microsoft bug had something to do with the fact that millions of credit card numbers were stolen...

Between that and Microsoft's continued arrogance, Bill's 1995 interview retains its relevance.

check out netcraft

it's the popularity of the software.

You so sure? According to the latest Netcraft survey Apache has 62% of the server market while all versions of Windows have only 27%. And you still see more Windows server viruses appearing (Slammer exploited bugs in the SQL server). If you want to talk about end users and desktops though, you'll have to find a email client that runs programs automatically with root-like priv's, then I might believe you.

Orange

I think he meant which control does it try? I've never seen one either.

Given that slashdot is running Apache on Linux, I find it hard to believe they'd use ActiveX controls.

Name one server on the most reliable uptime list that runs Linux?

Not intending to start a flame war but Linux has its place and so does unix when it comes to uptime, reliablity, and scalability. However FreeBSD and BSD/OS are the highest and most reliable rated which is interesting. Especially since FreeBSD is all opensource like Linux. I switched to FreeBSD not because of OS instability but I found most distro's to be buggy, and the apps to be beta quality. I never had problems with FreeBSD. Nothing bleeding edge is added and they are not far behind like Debian. Its a perfect ballance. It also is better for a server because of this.

Speaking of sun dieing....Sun will no justt sit by and watch their hardware market get eaten up from the ground up.

Sun just announced a lintel line of inexpensive servers for only 3-4k starting price. I have a friend of a friend who works for Sun who is testing x86 sun workstations. They plan to offer an intel workstation line based on Linux the second or third quarter! Wait untill this summer and fall for the anouncment of the new x86 workstation line as well as more x86 entry level servers. Their own distro is spefically designed to work with their hardware. Expect it to be supperior quality like their unix line because of this. You wont have to worry if your video card is supported or if your ethernet card will do weird things because of a buggy driver. Corporate customers will love something integrated like this. That is something you will not get with a Dell Lintel workstation because of the integration.

Sun also makes money from their software as well. They will not go anywhere. SGI may go under and HP may leave HP-UX dead and focus on Windows.NET hell and maybe a few x86 lintel servers but sun will offer both low end x86 and their standard high availibility mainframes and mini's to corporate customers. If I were sun I would try to make an advertising campaign for pixar, boeing and other former sun customers who are switching to Dell. Solaris is not going anywhere for high end customers even though Linux is eating up on the low end.

Looked at GreyMagic's web site with Opera cookie notification on?

Replaced with Xs to protect the innocent. Not only www but also "security". It's brave of them to be the lab rats for their own research-- or something.