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When they outlaw clocks, only outlaws will be on time.

(a quote I came across here.)

Isn't that just a bit of regurgitated propaganda, assuming facts not in evidence (i.e. that liberal arts majors, dogs and Republicans would follow the rules)?

Here is what happens in real life:

manipulation in the service of commercial agendas,

hoaxes,

malice, and

blackmail,

along with "skewed information, unattributed material, and potential copyright violations".

Wikipedia throws such people out today, and they're back tomorrow, with a new pseudonymous sockpuppet account.

Wikipedia lists over 70,000 blocked sockpuppeteers, and that list does not include some of the most serious cases, where individuals have used literally hundreds of sockpuppet accounts. (For reference, the English Wikipedia has around 3,000 steady contributors making at least three or four content edits a day.)

you don't need to cite commonly known facts of a topic. if you are unaware of how common extreme punishment for minor drug crimes is, you're only announcing how out of touch you are on the subject

google "years in jail marijuana possession"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

http://www.salon.com/2012/10/2...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ja...

http://www.rense.com/general61...

https://www.aclu.org/marijuana...

american drug laws are stupid, pointless, and insane, and have achieved zero effect. it's easy as ever to get pot

a society that prescribes brutal punishment for various minor crimes does nothing but announce its brutality. it has no effect on the crime in question

http://www.drugpolicy.org/drug...

it is important to cite interesting and novel facts. it is not important to cite commonly understood and well-established facts. the stupidity and insanity of american drug laws is well-established. we're just waiting for enough nancy reagan era morons to die the fuck off so we can build a sensible drug policy: legalization of non-addictive drugs, treatment for addicts, inducements for dealers of addictive drugs to come clean. destroy the mafias by draining their income. drain their income by incentivizing healthcare for addicts and legalizing nonaddictive substances

look to portugal

You really gotta wonder if these show producers make this stuff because it's popular and most Americans are down with that, or because the government/powers-that-be are trying to condition the population for a future with fewer civil liberties.

The government used to pay hollywood to embed anti-drug storylines in TV shows. 90% of the time those storylines were dullsville, heavy-handed preaching. Given how uninteresting that was, there is no way they could pull off such a conspiracy on the scale that such pro-authoritarian shows are now.

Good point. the consensus has been measured many times using different methods ranging from literature reviews to polls of scientists.

That's nice. I live in a funny kind of world where science isn't a matter of agreement so much as making predictions, then having them happen.

So when Hansen says NYC is supposed to be under water by now
http://www.salon.com/2001/10/2...
And it's not, that's fail.

When the prediction is for more and more intense Hurricanes and they don't occur
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_w...
That's fail.

So I someone with an agenda doing a survey, to determine "Consensus" looks like someone with an agenda that wants to use "Consensus" to bludgeon people that disagree.

I also look at anyone who says Consensus as a counter to failed predictions as an idiot.

Usually it's a penis and not money in [porn]

But doesn't money cum out of a penis? If not, why the heck do they call it a money shot?

I've heard it tastes like ass.

You're thinking of Soylent Brown.

People I didn't mention that could be honest so far as I know:
Scott Walker
Ben Carson
Rand Paul
Ted Cruz
John Kasich
Bobby Jindal
George Pataki
Jim Gilmore

We can take them one at a time:

Scott Walker:
http://www.politifact.com/pers...

Carson:

"A lot of people who go into prison straight, and when they come out they’re gay."

Rand Paul:
http://www.salon.com/2015/02/1...

Ted Cruz:
http://www.politicususa.com/20...

John Kasich:
http://mediatrackers.org/ohio/...

After that, the list becomes too trivial to fact-check. "George Pataki'? Really?

Care to explain the (any) logic in that?

I'm more at risk of dying from my spouse shooting me or from a weapon-related accident than from being shot at by criminals. See here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pm...

There are laws requiring mandatory safety & competency training for legal handgun owners in nearly every jurisdiction.

Incorrect. There are no such laws in pretty much EVERY state in the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... In most states you can just come in and buy a handgun with only a cursory background check (if that). A nice article: http://www.salon.com/2013/12/0...

FYI, most legal gun owners are more competent and safe with a gun than many, if not most, law enforcement officers, and LEOs carry 24/7, even off-duty.

Complete BS. Most gun owners have trouble distinguishing which end of a gun actually shoots bullets.

It's your right to be a defenseless victim for any armed criminal that comes along. You have no right to make that choice for others.

I also have a right not to be shot by you, because you mess up the safety switch.

She was given a luxury convertible when she turned 17....

LINK

She was given a porsche when she was 17.

LINK

there are also those screaming "racist" at everything even when it isnt and it seems to have been this way for the past 10 years now here.

I can't imagine why anyone would see racism in today's USA.

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/3...

http://www.reuters.com/article...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/...

https://www.breitbartunmasked....

How familiar are you with the lives and situation "black youth"? It seems you deal with the stereotypes you are given by the media. You ascribe the negative traits of a subgroup to an entire community. Orlando Patterson, who has studied the black community for years, said this in a Salon interview

One of the points I emphasize in the long, long chapter I wrote is that there’s a real pernicious benefit to see the street culture as the whole of inner-city culture. But the inner city is a very complex culture: You’ve got middle-class folks there with mainstream values, you’ve got hardworking, working-class people with their well-established culture — which is more religious than any other group in America! These people are the most God-fearing group — and I cite the evidence on that — and work hard and so on, and that’s a well-established tradition. And then, of course, you’ve got what used to be called the underclass, the “disconnected street culture,” and then you’ve got hip-hop culture. You’ve got a complex cultural mosaic there. However, the problem is that one of them makes life really miserable for all the rest of the 80 percent of law-abiding people. What we’re going to do about that is critical.

A lot of people say that inner-city culture is problematic and [it's] not. The tragedy is, the police think every youth in the inner city is like the 20 percent who are creating the problem so they start frisking everybody. What’s more, they see the problem entirely as just controlling that 20 percent of underground, street-culture types.

Rather than the low road reponse taken in previous shootings, their's was exemplary in that they clearly identified themselves as better people.

Maybe, that's because none of the earlier dead have, actually, been innocent. Michael Brown in particular deserved to die (even if Eric Garner didn't).

Or, maybe, because these are a church-going folk — you know, the stupid, illogical, bigoted and parochial believers in a sky-god...

I don't know — but you are right in that their tolerance is sincere, and not a result of some "grass-roots" organisation making emphasis on tolerance one of the bullet points on a strategy memo. To be discarded and replaced with the opposite, when the situation changes.

One of Napolitano's claims, in a segment that aired on Fox Business Channel:

“At the time that [Lincoln] was the president of the United States, slavery was dying a natural death all over the Western world,” Napolitano said." http://www.salon.com/2014/02/2...

Meanwhile, more slaves were alive in the United States than ever before. The international slave trade may have ended, but it was alive and well here, and slavery was expanding in the South, not contracting. Like I said, lies combined with half-truths designed to make the point that the war wasn't about slavery. And why, exactly? What's your motivation for perpetuating revisionist history? Do you even know?

And if "another place to live" isn't within practical commuting distance of your job or of any employer hiring in the field for which you have trained, too bad.

Well, there's always the nuclear option...

An Irish language documentary broke the news on the US Mortgage Backed Security driven property bubble back in 2005 so why doesn't it surprise me that another foreign news source is the first to piss off US real-estate corporations and reveal that rental backed securities are also teetering on the brink of disaster? Here we go again, another replay of tulip madness. In the words of Yogi Berra, it's Deja-vu all over again.

The real problem is that boom-bust cycles driven by loose monetary policy (whether it be Reagan's trickle down or Greenspan's helicopter drops) help those with deep pockets. Playing with matches around the global economic gas-tank eventually causes an explosion and as John Maynard Keynes put it, "Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent." (unless you happen to be a corporate slumlord.)

It has come to my attention that the entire Linux community is a hotbed
of so called 'alternative sexuality,' which includes anything from
hedonistic orgies to homosexuality to pedophilia.

What better way of demonstrating this than by looking at the hidden
messages contained within the names of some of Linux's most outspoken
advocates:

• Linus Torvalds [microsoft.com] is an
  anagram of slit anus or VD 'L,' clearly referring to himself by the
  first initial.
• Richard M. Stallman [geocities.com],
  spokespervert for the Gaysex's Not Unusual 'movement'
  is an anagram of mans cram thrill ad.
• Alan Cox [microsoft.com] is barely an
  anagram of anal cox which is just so filthy and unchristian it
  unnerves me.

I'm sure that Eric S. Raymond, composer of the satanic homosexual [goatse.cx] propaganda diatribe The Cathedral
and the Bizarre, is probably an anagram of something queer, but we don't
need to look that far as we know he's always shoving a gun up some poor
little boy's rectum. Update: Eric S. Raymond is actually an anagram
for secondary rim and cord in my arse. It just goes to show
you that he is indeed queer.

Update the Second: It is also documented that Evil Sicko Gaymond
is responsible for a nauseating piece of code called Fetchmail [microsoft.com], which is obviously
sinister sodomite slang for 'Felch Male' -- a disgusting practise. For those
not in the know, 'felching' is the act performed by two perverts wherein one
sucks their own post-coital ejaculate out of the other's rectum. In fact, it
appears that the dirty Linux faggots set out to undermine the good
Republican institution of e-mail, turning it into 'e-male.'

As far as Richard 'Master' Stallman goes, that filthy fudge-packer was actually
quoted [salon.com] on leftist commie propaganda site Salon.com as saying the
following: 'I've been resistant to the pressure to conform in any
circumstance,' he says. 'It's about being able to question conventional
wisdom,' he asserts. 'I believe in love, but not monogamy,' he says
plainly.

And this isn't a made up troll bullshit either! He actually stated this
tripe, which makes it obvious that he is trying to politely say that he's a
flaming homo [comp-u-geek.net] slut [rotten.com]!

Speaking about 'flaming,' who better to point out as a filthy chutney
ferret than Slashdot's very own self-confessed pederast Jon Katz. Although
an obvious deviant anagram cannot be found from his name, he has already
confessed, nay boasted of the homosexual [goatse.cx]
perversion of corrupting the
innocence of young children [slashdot.org]. To quote from the article linked:

'I've got a rare kidney disease,' I told her. 'I have to go to the
bathroom a lot. You can come with me if you want, but it takes a while. Is
that okay with you? Do you want a note from my doctor?'

Is this why you were touching your penis [rotten.com] in the cinema, Jon? And
letting the other boys touch it too?

We should also point out that Jon Katz refers to himself as 'Slashdot's
resident Gasbag.' Is there any more doubt? For those fortunate few
who aren't aware of the list of homosexual [goatse.cx]
terminology found inside the Linux 'Sauce Code,' a 'Gasbag' is a pervert who
gains sexual gratification from having a thin straw

...the gifts just keep coming...

As politicos (and Google execs) repeat far too frequently, I'm sure there's nothing that sensitive there, is there? Were MI6 and CIA, etc., heaven forbid doing something bad? Golly, I hope not. We don't need encryption if we all obey the law, right?

http://www.salon.com/2013/11/0...

No he doesn't.
He is no different from every other politician.
He panders to the audience and flipflops regularly.
And hates to be called on it.

Rand Paul’s Incoherent Foreign Policy Mess :

To Time magazine he roughly declares that if he were in charge he wouldn’t let Vladimir Putin “get away with it” and on the same day he tells Brietbart.com that now is not the time for chest beating and weirdly seems to call out John McCain as a chicken hawk. It’s all very confusing.

Rand Paul, serial panderer: 5 major flip-flops that reveal his brazen hypocrisy:

Should predator drones be used against American citizens?

During his filibuster of John Brennan’s nomination as CIA chief, Paul clearly stated the following:

“I rise today to oppose the nomination of anyone who would argue that the President has the power to kill American citizens not involved in combat.
“I rise today to say that there is no legal precedent for killing American citizens not directly involved in combat and that any nominee who rubber stamps and grants such power to a President is not worthy of being placed one step away from the Supreme Court.”

One month later, he suggested that drones could be used by the police to kill liquor store thieves on American soil:

“I’ve never argued against any technology being used when you have an imminent threat, an active crime going on. If someone comes out of a liquor store with a weapon and fifty dollars in cash, I don’t care if a drone kills him or a policeman kills him If there’s a killer on the loose in a neighborhood, I’m not against drones being used to search them out, heat-seeking devices being used, I’m all for law enforcement.”

Then, in August 2014, with turmoil in Ferguson, Missouri, as the backdrop, Paul seemed to oppose the police’s use of military equipment:

“The militarization of our law enforcement is due to an unprecedented expansion of government power in this realm. It is one thing for federal officials to work in conjunction with local authorities to reduce or solve crime. It is quite another for them to subsidize it. Americans must never sacrifice their liberty for an illusive and dangerous, or false, security.”

Should we continue to spend money on aid to Israel?

In March 2011, he proposed eliminating all aid to Israel:

“While this budget proposal does eliminate foreign aid to Israel, it is not meant to hurt, negate, or single out one of America’s most important allies. This proposal eliminates all foreign aid to all countries. Israel’s ability to conduct foreign policy, regain economic dominance, and support itself without the heavy hand of U.S. interests and policies, will only strengthen the Israeli community. The elimination of all foreign aid, including provisions to Israel, is not necessarily a new idea.”

Three years later, he denied ever proposing such a plan:

“I haven’t really proposed (phasing out aid to Israel) in the past.”

Should birth control be banned?

Small-government libertarian Rand Paul introduced a so-called Personhood Amendment, which is in reality a back-door antiabortion, anti-contraception bill.

In 2013, Paul introduced the personhood amendment that would not only have banned abortions but also would have in effect banned many forms of birth control, including some forms of the pill. Paul also supported the Blunt Amendment, which would have given employers an excuse to deny contraceptive health care coverage based on their conscience.

The following year, Paul denied he s

well, if Rand remains true to form, he'll flip flop on the issue in about a month.
After all, he did last time he pretended he was Jimmy Stewart and spoke against the drone program.

( http://www.salon.com/2015/05/2... )

The question is, would he have done this even if not running for president?

The answer is obviously yes, based on past behavior. Rand Paul has been one of the few people willing to go on record voting against things he does not agree with, instead of not voting at all.

So while of course some element of it is PR, that is not the core reason as to why he did this.

Sorry that is wrong.
Rand is NOT the libertarian hero you think he is.
He makes Mitt Romney look like a man of unimpeachable and stalwart integrity.

Rand says whatever he needs to in order to appeal to the current audience.
He is a serial panderer. He has no convictions.
In other words: He is just like every other politician

Rand Paul, serial panderer: 5 major flip-flops that reveal his brazen hypocrisy:

Should predator drones be used against American citizens?

During his filibuster of John Brennan’s nomination as CIA chief, Paul clearly stated the following:

“I rise today to oppose the nomination of anyone who would argue that the President has the power to kill American citizens not involved in combat.
“I rise today to say that there is no legal precedent for killing American citizens not directly involved in combat and that any nominee who rubber stamps and grants such power to a President is not worthy of being placed one step away from the Supreme Court.”

One month later, he suggested that drones could be used by the police to kill liquor store thieves on American soil:

“I’ve never argued against any technology being used when you have an imminent threat, an active crime going on. If someone comes out of a liquor store with a weapon and fifty dollars in cash, I don’t care if a drone kills him or a policeman kills him If there’s a killer on the loose in a neighborhood, I’m not against drones being used to search them out, heat-seeking devices being used, I’m all for law enforcement.”

Then, in August 2014, with turmoil in Ferguson, Missouri, as the backdrop, Paul seemed to oppose the police’s use of military equipment:

“The militarization of our law enforcement is due to an unprecedented expansion of government power in this realm. It is one thing for federal officials to work in conjunction with local authorities to reduce or solve crime. It is quite another for them to subsidize it. Americans must never sacrifice their liberty for an illusive and dangerous, or false, security.”

He absolutely did it for PR reasons, and nothing more.

Rand says whatever he needs to in order to appeal to the current audience.
He is a serial panderer, even for a politician.
He has flipflopped so many times...

Cruz isn't much better (actually he's not; he's worse, and a tool)

But on to Rand and why he is NOT the libertarian hero you think he is:

Rand Paul’s Incoherent Foreign Policy Mess :

To Time magazine he roughly declares that if he were in charge he wouldn’t let Vladimir Putin “get away with it” and on the same day he tells Brietbart.com that now is not the time for chest beating and weirdly seems to call out John McCain as a chicken hawk. It’s all very confusing.

Rand Paul, serial panderer: 5 major flip-flops that reveal his brazen hypocrisy:

Should predator drones be used against American citizens?

During his filibuster of John Brennan’s nomination as CIA chief, Paul clearly stated the following:

“I rise today to oppose the nomination of anyone who would argue that the President has the power to kill American citizens not involved in combat.
“I rise today to say that there is no legal precedent for killing American citizens not directly involved in combat and that any nominee who rubber stamps and grants such power to a President is not worthy of being placed one step away from the Supreme Court.”

One month later, he suggested that drones could be used by the police to kill liquor store thieves on American soil:

“I’ve never argued against any technology being used when you have an imminent threat, an active crime going on. If someone comes out of a liquor store with a weapon and fifty dollars in cash, I don’t care if a drone kills him or a policeman kills him If there’s a killer on the loose in a neighborhood, I’m not against drones being used to search them out, heat-seeking devices being used, I’m all for law enforcement.”

Then, in August 2014, with turmoil in Ferguson, Missouri, as the backdrop, Paul seemed to oppose the police’s use of military equipment:

“The militarization of our law enforcement is due to an unprecedented expansion of government power in this realm. It is one thing for federal officials to work in conjunction with local authorities to reduce or solve crime. It is quite another for them to subsidize it. Americans must never sacrifice their liberty for an illusive and dangerous, or false, security.”

Should we continue to spend money on aid to Israel?

In March 2011, he proposed eliminating all aid to Israel:

“While this budget proposal does eliminate foreign aid to Israel, it is not meant to hurt, negate, or single out one of America’s most important allies. This proposal eliminates all foreign aid to all countries. Israel’s ability to conduct foreign policy, regain economic dominance, and support itself without the heavy hand of U.S. interests and policies, will only strengthen the Israeli community. The elimination of all foreign aid, including provisions to Israel, is not necessarily a new idea.”

Three years later, he denied ever proposing such a plan:

“I haven’t really proposed (phasing out aid to Israel) in the past.”

Should birth control be banned?

Small-government libertarian Rand Paul introduced a so-called Personhood Amendment, which is in reality a back-door antiabortion, anti-contraception bill.

In 2013, Paul introduced the personhood amendment that would not only have banned abortions but also would have in effect banned many forms of birth control, including some forms of the pill. Paul also supported the Blunt Amend

The "test" is a very simple one. Had the current technology existed, when the existing taxi-regulations were being created, would they have gotten created at all? To me the answer is an obvious "no" — with the information about rides and drivers available to consumers instantly 24x7, there is no need for the governments to "certify" drivers nor to weight in on the "fair" rates.

Consider this hypothetical example — suppose a wonder-pill was created, that eliminated all disease. Would we be seriously considering attempts to ban it out of concerns for unemployed doctors, unused hospitals, or that it can, sometimes, be taken in unsanitary conditions?

having some basic insurance to cover if things go wrong are pretty reasonable

Why must an Uber driver have a different insurance plan from you and me? Any reasons you can come up with are none of the government's concern — they are between the driver and his insurance company.

hard to think that having cheaper car services is such a compellingly necessary service that it can morally or ethically justify ignoring laws

Think of it as "civil disobedience". And note, that the broken laws are purely of the malum prohibitum kind for there is nothing unethical in the drivers' actions per se. If burning police cars and robbing private businesses can be "legitimate political strategy", any concern over Uber and Lyft for providing useful services at low costs is misplaced at least.

This is the same man who proposed infiltrating and attacking any groups that dared think something of which his government didn't approve.

Although as a deeply-connected member of the Obama Administration, I'd have to agree that, at least when it comes to his own efforts at governance, "Human beings often see coherence and planned design when neither exists."

Anyone who's ever worked for George understands George himself was, however unconsciously, the model for both Darth Vader and the Emperor. Frightening but revealing that Sunstein would use this - a ruthless dictator who in truth has neither coherence nor a plan - as his template for constitutional government.

Here's a start for you

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...
http://old.richarddawkins.net/...

You might also be interested to know that atheists commit LESS crime than their religious counterparts

http://www.salon.com/2013/06/1...

And their divorce rate is lower

http://www.alternet.org/belief...

Meanwhile shall we look at all the wars, murder and mayhem conducted in the name of religion/god? Not sure what the character limit is on /. posts, might exceed it...

Yeah, I kinda felt like Drew's response to #4 was a wonderful specimen of political doublespeak. He is ready!

Yes, we understand that "the appearance of motive or conflict" is more important than whether there's stated or actual intent. But most people that politicians make their statements to totally don't work that way. It's all about the sound bite.

I think Fark is ... coping with the changes. People always find a way to speak their minds, even if they have to bend to fit the limitations set forth by their communications medium.

FWIW, here's an long but excellent piece on political overcorrectedness vs. comedians:
http://www.salon.com/2015/03/1...
Come to watch two white male SJWs slug it out, stay for the inevitable Mien Kampf references!

Zimbardo belongs to a cadre of self-described “positive psychologists” (though I more properly would label them as “techno-psychologist”) that happily take money from the military, whose brass is willing to pay top dollars to those who develop “rational techniques” for the treatment of soldiers that are about to be sent or return from the meat-grinders in the Middle East; some of these same psychologists, although not Zimbardo himself, have been accused of collaborating with the Pentagon in the development of such techniques to get better outcomes from the torturing of iraqi prisoners, including the head of the American Psychological Assn. at the time of George W. Bush’s invasion of Iraq, Martin Seligman. Even if Zimbardo himself did not work for these programs put in place by the Pentagon at the time of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, having his name in the same honor list as Seligman is something that doesn’t speak well of his “scientific” credentials or those of the American psychological community.

In my experience, the reason for this is that conservatives push out a lot of hate in their postings and liberals don't. No one wants to read a lot of nasty name-calling.

I keep one right wing nutjob in my feed just for a laugh. He is one of those that believe Chuck Norris and Rick Perry along with the national guard are going to protect Texas from a Federal government takeover from the Isis-loving-Obama.

No this is not a joke:

http://www.salon.com/2015/05/0...

And that Sandy Hook was a conspiracy for the government to take guns away....

http://21stcenturywire.com/201...

Hiring David Plouffe was a smart move for Uber. The man knows, how to improve pubic perception of anything. Not that I disapprove of his current employer, but to sell the country the shit-sandwich we have in the White House today — that's a sign of a true master.

While we are repeatedly told to hate on rich donors like Koch brothers, it is people like Mr. Plouffe, who really run the country...

Of course, the first sign of his coming onboard at Uber was the spike of spamming by the company. And not just the specials and discounts, which are legitimate things a business may send to existing active customers, but propaganda crap like "women equality at Uber" or "Uber for safer cities". I was disgusted and now begin my search for a ride with Lyft, but it must've been a win with most of their customers...

I think what made people stand up and take notice of Linux was IBM's decision to port Linux so it works on IBM's mainframe hardware. In short, having an open operating system work on IBM mainframes showed that Linux was viable even running highly mission-critical tasks.

There may be something to what you say, but Linux and *NIX were eating IBM's lunch, so IBM needed Linux more than Linux needed IBM.

In the 90's, people were walking away from mainframes and towards *NIX. The world wide web was the new hotness, and nobody was writing web servers for IBM mainframes... all the important software was running on *NIX.

For awhile, if you wanted to put up a big web site like Ebay, what you would do is go to Sun and pay a lot of money for a redundant server box. Unless you were Google, in which case you did very well with stacks of generic motherboards running Linux (and custom software to integrate the stacks of unreliable motherboards into a reliable supercomputer). But anyway the action was all in *NIX.

Sales were falling off for mainframes. IBM, a big company, didn't have all of its groups in agreement, but some groups at IBM decided that Linux running on IBM mainframes would help IBM stay relevant.

It worked. IBM still sells lots of mainframes, but now almost all of them are sold to run Linux. A mainframe is expensive, but crazy powerful and gives you crazy good uptime.

http://www.salon.com/2000/09/12/chapter_7_part_one/

http://www.reuters.com/article...
http://www.salon.com/2011/04/1...

Yeah no one freaked out and made death threats or anything.

Organise a "draw Jesus sodomizing Mary" contest in Texas and you'll get crazy Christian jihadists doing the same thing.

No, you wouldn't. You really, really wouldn't.

No one got killed, but even French Christians can be pretty violent over images.

Hansen made the Koch brother's King Coal game impossible.
Republicans were bought and sold by them and demand an end to Global Warming Research, lest it harm the .0001% by the name of Koch.
A little education would prevent these kinds of 'rebranding' of the actual news
Salon with the skinny on defunding NASA climate science

Libertarianism has never been fully implemented anywhere.

Oh, but it has in a few places, most of them last less than a year before they are destroyed by a neighbour or internal struggles. Although, I hear that the government of Honduras is fond of libertarianism, and it's working out quite well, if you are either rich and can afford your own private army, or have your own guns and want to work in a private army...

That ship already sailed with MEK. Carry a Hezbollah tv channel - the feds will send you to a Federal Pound Me In the Ass Penitentiary. Take money from MEK to lobby, aka propagandize on their behalf? We'll just take them off the terror watch list.

Examples?

Yeah, yeah

Marco Rubio, (R-FL)

http://mic.com/articles/19382/...

http://www.salon.com/2015/04/1...

Among the faith-deranged, Rubio stands out. He briefly dumped one magic book for another, converting from Roman Catholicism to Mormonism and then back again. (Reporters take note: This is faith-fueled flip-flopping, which surely indicates a damning character flaw to be investigated. Flip-flopping of a different sort helped sink John Kerry’s 2004 presidential bid.) Yet even as a re-minted Catholic, Rubio cheats on the Pope with a megachurch in Miami called Christ Fellowship. As religion and politics blogger Bruce Wilson points out, Christ Fellowship is a hotbed of “demonology and exorcism, Young Earth creationism, and denial of evolution,” and is so intolerant it demands its prospective employees certify they are not “practicing homosexuals” and don’t cheat on their spouses. (Check out its manifesto under “About Us – What We Believe.”) As regards evolution, Rubio confesses that he’s “not a scientist” and so cannot presume to judge the fact of evolution on its merits, and holds that creationism should be taught in schools as just one of many “multiple theories” about our origins.

Representative Paul Broun (R-GA). Young Earth creationist and former member of the fucking House Committee on Science.

Here's a quote from a 2012 speech that Rep Broun gave:

"All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and the Big Bang Theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of Hell. And it’s lies to try to keep me and all the folks who were taught that from understanding that they need a savior. You see, there are a lot of scientific data that I’ve found out as a scientist that actually show that this is really a young Earth. I don’t believe that the Earth’s but about 9,000 years old. I believe it was created in six days as we know them. That’s what the Bible says."

And, Mr. "Where is the Proof", if you don't believe my quote, here is a video of Rep Broun's entire speech:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Oh wait, the link doesn't work because it was taken down eight months before the 2014 elections.

But as long as we're rolling with Rep Broun, here's another quote from the same speech:

"And what I’ve come to learn is that it’s the manufacturer’s handbook, is what I call it. It teaches us how to run our lives individually, how to run our families, how to run our churches. But it teaches us how to run all of public policy and everything in society. And that’s the reason as your congressman I hold the Holy Bible as being the major directions to me of how I vote in Washington, D.C., and I’ll continue to do that."

[In 2014, Rep Broun left office to run for Saxby Chambliss' Senate seat from Georgia. May God have mercy on our souls.]

If you want more examples, I can provide them, but I've used up enough space doing simple Google searches that you could have done for yourself.

Twitter CEO Dick (oops) Costolo, on harassment in a Salon article

"Well, it's a complex issue," he said on the topic of Twitter's pattern of inaction when it comes to online harassment. "By way of example, in the wake of the news of that internal memo going out, I'll get emails from people that say, 'I agree, and here's a great example of someone being harassed on the platform' -- and it's not at all harassment, it's political discourse. And, in fact, fairly rational political discourse. So you know these things have lots and lots of varying degrees: Was that really harassment and abuse? Or is that discourse?"

http://www.salon.com/2015/04/1...

This is just more of the same... a lot of the stuff on this issue is just made up. You subject it to scrutiny and it withers.

Which is why I insist on doing it. Too many people lie when they don't have evidence to back up their position. It is very common. And when people agree with the liars they don't check what the liars are saying. And that quickly leads to everyone saying "oh it must be true because after all we all believe". Which is little more then a sad example of lots of people not checking fucking anything.

So I check the facts. And the evidence that is bullshit gets stripped away and if there is ANYTHING left after that, then we can talk about that. But often as not... there isn't a fucking thing left. And in those cases... well... we can talk about opinions or something.

I see New York as a top state that people are fleeing from

Except, as you pointed out, New York's population is growing.

And New York City, ground zero for the DeBlasio commie marxist experiment, is growing at a rate of 3.9%.

I see New York as a top state that people are fleeing from

And I see Mississippi as the state where 4th graders are least likely to read.

And if you want to really see a state that still hasn't recovered from 2008, just check good old Konservatve Kansas.

http://www.salon.com/2015/03/1...

What exactly is so wrong with BASIC as a starting language?

BASIC is still a good starting language. Read David Brin's Why Johnny Can't Code to see why attempts to displace BASIC have left us crippled.

The contracts are only lucrative for the labels.

The reason they sign them is because the labels can offer them promotion and distribution. Faced with the choice of building their name through hard graft, and having a pre-made audience delivered to them on a plate, many choose to sign for the label. Faced with a flash, successful, A&R man who promises the earth and knows some really cool people, many choose to sign for the label.

You have deals where the artist sells $188M of CDs, and declares bankruptcy.

Scott Walker would be great as President, you'd get all of the advantages of a shadowy Dick Cheney puppetmaster in the Koch brothers pulling his strings.

Do some research on Chris Christy's "reaching across the aisle". It was usually to first lie to the other side to come to an agreement, then redline those agreements and give out crony and partisan favors to the Republicans. He's had several scandals (shutting down the bridge, screwing over Democratic mayors, misuse of Hurricane Sandy money,... ). It's getting so cramped in Christy's scandal-laden office that he's as comfortable as a pig in an Iowa gestation crate.

The IPCC has stated that sea level rise this century will likely be in the neighborhood of 2.6 feet or less but that extreme conditions could cause as much as a 6.5 foot rise in sea levels over the next hundred years. Maybe you are referring to Al Gore's propaganda where he stated a bunch of US cities could soon be underwater in the near future. You must remember Al Gore is a politician and as such, if his lips move, he's lying.

Really ? That's what I must remember ?

It couldn't be James Hansen predicting the West Side Highway would be under water by 2005 ?

http://www.salon.com/2001/10/2...

The West Side Highway [which runs along the Hudson River] will be under water. And there will be tape across the windows across the street because of high winds. And the same birds won’t be there. The trees in the median strip will change.” Then he said, “There will be more police cars.” Why? “Well, you know what happens to crime when the heat goes up.”

Whisteblowers have been sent to Federal Pound-Me-In-The-Ass Penitentiaries under the odious Espionage Act at a higher rate under Obama than all previous presidents combined.

But Petraeus, who casually flashed Specially Compartmented Information - a much higher classification than any of the Top Secret information released by Manning to Wikilieaks - just to impress his mistress, will only face probation.

Or the cable operator who was sentenced to years in jail for carrying a Hezbollah tv channel, because it's on a State Department list of terror groups, while at the same time prominent politicians from both parties openly accepted large amounts of money from MEK to lobby on the group's behalf. A group also....on the State Departments list of terror groups.

So we could see the same thing in Australia. Defense contractors will be free to skirt the law and sell to any shifty customer. People who annoy the state, though, will feel the full force of the law.

Your amygdala sounds fat. You should seek professional help to understand your body and the influences on it, especially the internal ones.

http://www.salon.com/2013/02/2...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

Take a look at this article. While many points are driver issues there are a significant number that are company issues that the CEO is responsible for. Some of those are "surge pricing", cancelling fares on competitors, high fees/low fares, poor background checks, privacy issues, muck raking journalists, etc.

I think you're missing how much of a whore the media was leading up to the Iraq war, completely drowning out any dissonant experts including high ranking military, political scientists, and historians.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/11/...
http://www.salon.com/2007/04/1...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

The media will do anything that gets them readers. Morals, ethics, and political leanings have nothing to do with it. The all-mighty dollar crosses all political boundaries.

Yes, actually. And considering the previous collaborative environment, it has been a big improvement.

Citations:
http://www.salon.com/2015/03/1...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

http://arstechnica.com/tech-po...

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