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Thats not a fault of the kernel thats the distro monkeys. Slackware seemed to work fine for me. Are you sure you've tried ALL of the distros, ther's a lot of them ...

We will know that it is time to use 2.6.x in anger when Patrick ships his distro with it as the default kernel. This is usually a sure sign that stability and maturity is upon us.

rsync security update (SSA:2003-337-01)

Instructions on how to update Slackware to the latest and greatest rsync are at:
http://slackware.com/security/viewer.php?l=slackwa re-security&y=2003&m=slackware-security.399741
Of course if you're running a server you should theoretically be subscribing to the security mailing list. Right?

zipslack

The UMSDOS filesystem emulates ugo permissions and long filenames on FAT filesystems by storing the additional data in another file per directory. It is slow, but so are USB keyfobs and loopback devices, and it works well enough--my first distro was ZipSlack, Slackware on UMSDOS in 100 MB.

While RedHat does not produce my my favourite distribution I get very tired of this bashing. RH has contributed probably more man-hours in terms of software development, maintenance and suport than (probably) any other company without charging a cent.

I challenge you to (honestly) say that for Microsoft.

I'd love to give redhat some slack, but they'll just say it's still not ready for the desktop.

Why stick with RedHat if you feel abandoned by them? If you "need a GOOD and STABLE OS for a REASONABLE price -- and updates, of course" there is Slackware which is noted for it's stability. For updates to Slack, there is swaret and slapt-get (check freshmeat.net to find them). Then of course you could always go with Debian and apt-get, or try a different distro. Take a look over at Distrowatch.com! and see all the choices out there! Just because one vendor is dropping out of a market, that does not mean there is are no replacements!

I wish KDE and GNOME could have some sort of truce and just make the a collabritive effort to help the Desktop. None of the projects work together even though they all depend on each other.

Odd, they have had a truce, and Blucurve is part of Fedora Core 1.

Tryknoppix for KDE 3.1 and Debian Unstable and Slackware and Mandrake for both Gnome 2.4, and KDE 3.1. (they now share a desktop now mind you)

I thnk that most of the "fanboys", or people who acutaly took the time to learn and use Linux would agree with me that in the past year alone there has been exponential progres with KDE and GNOME to the point that they really are ready for the desktop, if not very very close.
A year ago the parent(s) might have been accurate a year ago but not they are just troll.

I think I will spend my vouchers on official CD sets of Slackware and FreeBSD

You mean this? "This vulnerability requires the attacker to create or modify certain Apache configuration files, and is not a remote hole. " How is this as bad as many of the exploits plaguing IIS and other Microsoft products? Up until a few years ago, Microsoft wasn't paying much attention to local exploits at all.

So, where are all the worms who exploit this vulnerability? When did they hose the internet? Are these pings I keep getting from this imaginary worm, or are they from the real worm which has been infecting Microsoft systems for months?

Just because a project has a vulnerability doesn't mean it is as poorly managed as Microsoft. I hate stupid extremist thinking. "If it isn't completely secure, it must be completely insecure!"

There is lots of competition on the desktop right now, with:

Mandrake
Lindows
Xandros
Lycoris
Gentoo Games
Debian

And of course Slackware and Suse

Maybe they decided the market was already full. Turning it over the the community makes pretty good sense. Enterprise has always been their primary market.

• get os installed
  
  
• rpm or make
  
  
• play with system
  
  

• ohh what N bit of hardware do I have
  
  
• fdisk, what OS Disk type do I have?
  
  
• whats a sector?
  
  
• etc ...
  
  

Once you go black, you never go back.

-t

Buy Slack distros. I do.

If you don't like Slackware, there are many other distros out there ...

...it's not like there aren't any other Linux distros.

Um, I think you misread that. The Fedora Core 1 that is coming out in a couple weeks has no plans whatsoever for supporting kernel 2.6.

Which is a good reason to try Slackware again. 9.1 was just released, with 2.4.22, and support for 2.6. Which means they already did the dirty work of making sure mod-init-tools was on the machine, along with other necessities. Not to mention it comes with Gnome 2.4 and KDE 3.1.4

I've tried 2.6.0-test4 on Slackware 9, and it made a difference in desktop usability and responsiveness.

and slack 9.1

Bah. There's only one operating system that does pipes properly.

There's no prob with Bob! (And no, we're not talking about Bob McGrath.)

So far, I think their Alpha Slackware is their best pixmap. So far, my DEC Alpha has the following distributions on a 4.5GB harddrive (despite the 18GB harddrive RAID with a mounted /home and /usr/local directory):
Debian 3.0r0
RedHat 7.1
SuSE 7.1
Slackware 9
LinuxFromScratch
netBSD
GNU/HURD

Slackware is nice, a complexity rivaled only by LinuxFromScratch.

ISOs for 9.1 won't be available via the main Slackware FTP site due to bandwidth limitations, so BitTorrents have been set up to distribute the load.

Torrent for Disc 1
Torrent for Disc 2

The 9.1 4-disc CD set is also available from the Slackware Store. I usually place my order for the CD set and download the ISOs so I can have it available to me immediately until the nice disc set arrives in the mail.

ISOs for 9.1 won't be available via the main Slackware FTP site due to bandwidth limitations, so BitTorrents have been set up to distribute the load.

Torrent for Disc 1
Torrent for Disc 2

The 9.1 4-disc CD set is also available from the Slackware Store. I usually place my order for the CD set and download the ISOs so I can have it available to me immediately until the nice disc set arrives in the mail.

ISOs for 9.1 won't be available via the main Slackware FTP site due to bandwidth limitations, so BitTorrents have been set up to distribute the load.

Torrent for Disc 1
Torrent for Disc 2

The 9.1 4-disc CD set is also available from the Slackware Store. I usually place my order for the CD set and download the ISOs so I can have it available to me immediately until the nice disc set arrives in the mail.

Since we are talking about ease of installation, new users may find it interesting to know that you can run version of Slackware from a DOS/Windows partition called ZipSlack/BigSlack without having to resize or reformat your existing drive. Just unzip and edit a batch file. I think the web site says it best...

What is ZipSlack?

The text below is taken from the URL above.

ZipSlack is a special version of Slackware Linux. It's an already installed copy of Slackware that's ready to run from your DOS or Windows partition. It's a basic installation, you do not get everything that comes with Slackware. If you want everything with ZipSlack, then you should try BigSlack.

There are no ISOs.
Download the packages from a mirror near you then read this and make one.

Keep up the great work Pat!

From http://www.slackware.com/announce/1.0.php ( google archive ):

From: Patrick J. Volkerding (bf703@cleveland.Freenet.Edu)
Subject: ANNOUNCE: Slackware Linux 1.00
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Date: 1993-07-16 17:21:20 PST

The Slackware Linux distribution (v. 1.00) is now available for
anonymous FTP.

and it's allready been updated in slackware as well. Go Pat!

and it's allready been updated in slackware as well. Go Pat!

Some digging on the slackware site brings up the following dates:

SW 7.0 released Tue, 2 Nov 1999
SW 8.0 released Sun, 1 Jul 2001
SW 8.1 released 2002-06-18
SW 9.0 released 2003-03-19

Unfortunately it doesn't go back further.

Slackware advisory here.

I've downloaded gigs and gigs of stuff.

I noticed the home of my distro of choice: Slackware had this page up the other day. I checked back a few hours later and it was gone. I thought maybe it was an isolated protest, but based on this story I guess not.

Some of the sites did it at the right time. Slackware was closed 2 days ago, on the 27th.

Isn't Linux supposed to be GPL? Make copies for each system. Oh, but Redhat could be adding in special non-GPL applications (it's not a violation of the GPL to run a non-GPL application on a GPL OS). And I presume they are adding in support. Do you really need that support? Why not download Debian or Slackware, install a system and configure it as you like, and then duplicate it to all your servers. Then if you need a special non-GPL application, buy it for just the servers you need it. Of course if you need that application on every server, you're probably in for a lot of cost, anyway.

Debian indeed! Or, if you're a bit more adventurous, Slackware, my own personal distribution of choice. Not for the faint of heart, if you want a polished product go for debian.

try slackware

*ducks*

Not in 32 Meg, but a Slackware edition runs in 100 Meg...

Well, you could go the Gentoo route and not provide an installer at all, but provide instructions on how to do it yourself instead.

Or, you could use parts of Slackware's installer. It began as a distro for Pat V. and his friends.....

Yes, and Slackware also has an entire book devoted to helping new users with slackware and linux in general. It's usually the first thing I point new users to when they ask question in #slackware, because it's almost always documented right there.

Sorry, but this has not been my experience at all. Have you ever tried Dropline Gnome for Slack? It's perfect (or as close to it as anything I've seen recently) and Todd does an amazing job at keeping pkgs up to date for the installer to handle. Try it out. A non DT based option would be Autoslack

as for

Gentoo, my other favorite distrobution suffers from the same problem...

I really have to disagree with you. I run ~x86 on 3 boxes, and 1 x86 (stable) and haven't had any issue updating. emerge -uD world and all is new. I use etc-update to update my settings and all is good. Pehaps it's not perfect (sometimes ebuilds are broken) but it's the easiest distro to 'fix' if you ask me. I've done my time with RH/MDK/Deb/F-bsd and now only run Slack/Gentoo.

P

Webmasters: If you'd like to keep the awareness of slackware up, grab a banner from here: Slackware Propoganda and link it back to Slackware.com.

Downloaded, compiled and installed. Working since 4 hours on a Slackware-9.0-current, asus L8460K notebook (p3/1000, 256mb ram, i440bx, S3 savage/MX, ess allegro) and quite standard compilation options (acpi, alsa, pcmcia, usb, netfilter, no ipv6, preemptible kernel). Applied patch as seen on LKML (see here) for vfsmount.
Happy testing!

the antitrust service pack

For those of you who haven't heard of this, yet, here are places you can get it:

Mirror 1a
Mirror 1b
Mirror 2
Mirror 3
Mirror 4

These mirrors also work well:

Mirror 5
Mirror 6

Really? What's the name of the company that first produced it? I've never heard of Slackware Inc.

And since when does having a default set of packages make a distro commercial?

It's here. As far as I can tell, it is going strong. Slack9.0 was released in March and is as modern as any other GNU/Linux distro.

Slackware for everything! Use only 'cuz it's l33t.

My corporate laptop is loaded with NT - and my desktop support won't upgrade the service pack - so no USB ports are useable on my machine...

If they would only let me load a real OS, like Slackware, then maybe I could get some real work done, instead of trying to get around the limitations of my box..