Domain: sunet.se
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I remember those days fondly
We built a COMring cable, which let you run a token-ring like network over a specially constructed serial cable or over a null modem cable (if you only have 2 nodes). Then installed an IPX packet driver in order to run the game. at 57.6k and decent UARTs (16550) it played fine.
For parallel we ran LapLink cables, a type of parallel cable like you described. And transferred files with LANtastic or Laplink. Eventually a few people got 10Base2 cards and would act as gateways for those of us without network cards.
Lots of co-op games of Heretic were done our little improvised network.
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Re:And still...
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Not unprecedented
Lest we forget:
http://ftp.sunet.se/jargon/html/magic-story.html -
Magic / More Magic
These remind me of the classic 'Magic' vs 'More Magic' switch. http://ftp.sunet.se/jargon/html/magic-story.html
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Re:What ?
Doesn't work for me with Bredbandsbolaget and if they lost all the three Bs (Bredbandsbolaget, Bahnhof, Bredband2) we're doomed!"
:DShould had been hosted around the universities instead =P. I wonder if Sunet would had given a shit?
(Heh, damn people up north stealing all the bandwidth! http://stats.sunet.se/top10.html)
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Re:Alternatives?
I can't give opinions on all of these (and some are still in development at this time anyway), but here's a list of some languages with paralellism designed in:
- Erlang -- Very popular message passing/actor model based language.
- Scala -- A functional language with actor model concurrency for the JVM.
- Oz -- An exceptionally multiparadigm language.
- Occam-pi -- The modern version of the old occam for transputers; CSP style concurrency (I believe).
- Chapel -- Cray's parallel programming language for supercompters. Cray's entry into DARPA's HPCS programming language competition.
- X10
- Fortress -- Sun's language for serious scientific computing. It was Sun's entry into DARPA's HPCS programming language competition, but lost and is now open sourced.
- Eiffel SCOOP -- An effort to take a CSP model and make it elegantly compatible with object oriented programming
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Re:C vs C# is a poor comparison
Can someone explain how this differs from Erlang? It is briefly mentioned on the Go site:
"One of the most successful models for providing high-level linguistic support for concurrency comes from Hoare's Communicating Sequential Processes, or CSP. Occam and Erlang are two well known languages that stem from CSP. Go's concurrency primitives derive from a different part of the family tree whose main contribution is the powerful notion of channels as first class objects."
http://golang.org/doc/go_lang_faq.html
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Re:this is why we need competition
In Stockholm, and maybe in other Swedish cities too, when there is work where they have to open up the street, they also lay down fiber. This fiber is then owned by the city, and anyone can "rent" bandwith on the fiber. Community owned, but since anyone can use it there is competition where it counts.
Much of the Internet backbone in Sweden is run by SUNET, the Swedish university computer network, or owned by TeliaSonera with strict rules to allow fair usage. -
Re:THANK YOU AT&T!!!
I've been there, several years ago when I lived in a dorm room my biggest bottleneck when downloading things using DC++ was the speed of my hard drives (and the speed of the hard drive in the machine sending the data). But back then I had a connection to SUNET through the university...
/Mikael
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Re:Don't confuse bandwidth with data transfered
A bunch of years back I had a 10/10 Mbps connection to SUNET with a static IP address and pesky firewalls/NAT to "protect" me from myself, I would quite often download and upload around 1 MB/s, and at 1 MB/s that's 86400 MB/day. Admittedly I rarely transferred anything quite that big, but it was definitely possible had I wanted to.
/Mikael
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Re:Because Telstra have appaling plans.
That still seems quite limited, although if you're in Australia then I guess it's better than what most people are using...
OTOH, I'm swedish so ADSL2+ Annex M 24/3 Mbps with no transfer limits for USD50 per month is considered kind of expensive. I'm still waiting for my 100/100 ethernet jack though, had it in college through SUNET but I don't live in a student apartment anymore.
/Mikael
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Re:Sounds like a good idea to me.
Not that it matters but what kinds of asciiporn can you really get within 512 bytes?
Sunet ascii-girl
Sunet vicki
Both around 8 kB. -
Re:Sounds like a good idea to me.
Not that it matters but what kinds of asciiporn can you really get within 512 bytes?
Sunet ascii-girl
Sunet vicki
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So that's about 3.28 times of NetBSD's record
From this link: http://proj.sunet.se/LSR3-s/ (This was from an old
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NetBSD's Internet2 land speed record was (back at Sep'04):
# Network Distance: 28,983 kilometers
# Data transferred: 1831.05 Gigabytes (1966080000000 bytes)
# Time: 3648.81 seconds
Which equals 124.935 petabit-meters/second (1,966,080,000,000 * 8 * 28,983,000 / 3648.81)
Record in this story equals:
2,560,000,000,000 * 160,000 = 409,600,000,000,000,000 bit-meters/second = 409.6 petabit-meters/second
So that's about 3.28 times of NetBSD's record. Considering the fact that NetBSD's record was about 1.5 years old and they were using off the shelf hardware (Dell 2650 and Dell 650, Intel Pro/10GbE, routers were Cisco highend) except the routers, this new record is not all that impressive IMHO. -
Re:Missing info...
I guess if they were, they couldn't be used to set TCP transmission records, could they?
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Re:Slashdotted?!
Here's a link to the Swedish University Network (SUNet), who mirrors the files from Opera.com.
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Re:I wonder how thay tested it?
Apparently, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
The "Internet2 speed record" had Dell boxes running NetBSD pushing 4Gbps for an hour with no packet loss.
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Re:so what's wrong with
> www.pricelessware.org?
Or Nonags? -
Re:OSX
waste? redundant packages? I just installed FireFox on XandrOS, and it took 35MB. The Windows installer is 4MB. I think that Linux is the king of wasteful redundant libraries; it seems that every program wants to install its own version of some arcane widgets. Look at the big, important projects for example:
Openoffice.org 1.1.3:
Linux -- 78246 KB
Windows -- 46100 KB
FireFox 1.0:
Linux -- 8422 KB
Windows -- 4803 KB
AbiWord 2.0.12:
Linux -- 21.16MB
Windows -- 4.8MB
Clearly there's something wrong here. Only OSX binaries are even more gigantic than the Linux ones, and that's only because of the Apple RISC hardware. -
Move to Sweden ...
Why use a i2hub?
Over here in Sweden, we have all the unies connected through an own network with a good connection to the other ISPs of Sweden.
So with a good DC++ hub (read ancient][spirit (only 10Mbit+ users with proven 600KB/s upload speeds allowed entry)), even me with community fiber, get a speed at around 800KB - 1MB/s most of the time.
You also won't have snooping up your arse as of yet.
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I2 Land Speed Record: NetBSD did it again. :-)From NetBSD's website
:NetBSD does it again. After the original Internet2 Land Speed Record set in 2004 May 3 was broken, NetBSD shines again: researchers at the Swedish University Network (SUNET) have broken once more the Internet2 Land Speed Record, using the upcoming version, NetBSD 2.0.
The new records are 124.935 Pbmps in a single stream (was 69.073 Pbmps), and 122.367 Pbmps in multiple streams. NetBSD was used once more due to the "scalability of its TCP code".
More information about this record including the NetBSD configuration can be found here for single stream and here for multiple streams. And here is the website of the Internet2 Land Speed Record (I2-LSR) competition.
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I2 Land Speed Record: NetBSD did it again. :-)From NetBSD's website
:NetBSD does it again. After the original Internet2 Land Speed Record set in 2004 May 3 was broken, NetBSD shines again: researchers at the Swedish University Network (SUNET) have broken once more the Internet2 Land Speed Record, using the upcoming version, NetBSD 2.0.
The new records are 124.935 Pbmps in a single stream (was 69.073 Pbmps), and 122.367 Pbmps in multiple streams. NetBSD was used once more due to the "scalability of its TCP code".
More information about this record including the NetBSD configuration can be found here for single stream and here for multiple streams. And here is the website of the Internet2 Land Speed Record (I2-LSR) competition.
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Re:Uhm... small countries, here, people
However, multiple multi-gigabit/s capable backbones covering all the major cities and towns of Sweden negates that argument. Hell, SUNET(Swedish University Network) has upgraded its backbone to 10Gb/s capacity, from Kiruna in the far north to Malmö in the south. Look here for a map of the various routes and router placements. The equivalent in the US would be all the universities, colleges and other higher academic/research sites in California, from south to north, linked with a 10Gb/s multi-path redundant network. And that's just SUNET. Then there are the metropolitan and regional grids, there are the commercial backbones(Skanova, Tele 2, Banverket and a couple of others).
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Re:2 words.... land massHowever, if you live in a town with at least a couple of thousand inhabitans then chances are you can get ADSL (most likely 512/384, don't know if they've rolled out 8Mbps ADSL in the smaller towns yet..). Hell, I had 10Mbps when I was living in Östersund, population somewhere between 50k and 70k IIRC..
A contributing factor for this is government subsidized fibre all over the place, and I've heard rumours of them laying down fibre every time they replace stretches of railroad. And then there's the university network.
/Mikael
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Doomed to Micro$oft Pri$on
This is all fine, but when will we see a Linux that is able to run in my computer?
My machine has a ridiculous disability. Its PCI bus is out way of reach. Linux just can't handle it. That bus far away from Linux's addressing range.
Why is that so? Why can't Linux address my PCI bus, when other operating systems (grrr) have no problem with it?
The details are described on this page, section 4.13.1. They describe a solution, but that solution does not work on all the affected computers! Not on mine, for example. I've asked!
It's unfair! Look, I'm the total n00b here. I've never even seen a Linux screen. I should be asking you Linux people where you keep your "any" key, or something! But instead I'm exploring busses and drivers and addressing ranges.
And finding, to my utter horror, that it just won't work, no matter what! Linux just can't handle this problem!
Oh, the horror! Doomed to a life in Micro$oft Pri$on!
Give a man a fish and he eats for one day. Teach him how to fish, and though he'll eat for a lifetime, he'll call you a miser for not giving him your fish. -
Re:that space would almost fit two cars
I was surprised to be able to download the vid at full speed, though.
:)
one reason would be that Linköping's University has a 2.5Gbit uplink to the 10Gbit backbone called SUNET, one of the (if not "the") fastest university networks in the world :) -
Not entirely accurate for 'normal usage'.
Take a look at readable tcp dump and you'll notice that it is just the ascii character set shifted continuously. Now if you NEVER need disk access then this could be usable (aka isp and router junction points) but once you hit disk you are bottlenecked. Even with U320 SCSI you can only hit 320 MB/s (~2.5Gbit/s) assuming linear reads at full cacity of your full array of disks.
Disk is limiting pretty much anything, such as playing raw 2K video (2048x1556) in real time (seconds is relatively easy but minutes is difficult). I could care less how fast your network speed as when 1 non-solid state device (ie. disk) is entered into the mix the network performance is notional compared to real performance. -
link to a relevant page ...
SUNET Internet2 Land Speed Record: 69.073 Pbmps
Now give me my carma..
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SUNET Internet2 Land Speed Record: 50.7155 Pbmps
and this one is over the public Internet... SUNET LSR
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One Missing Piece: The Sash
Check out this picture of Flynn. The only thing this guy's costume is missing is the sash! Then, the nut/ball jokes would be moot.
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server slow, mirror list:
Sorry, couldn't format it because of Slashdot's fucking filters.
ftp://ftp.is.co.za/applications/gimp/ ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/gimp/gimp/ http://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/gimp/gimp/ ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/gimp/ http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/gimp/ ftp://gimp.zeta.org.au/gimp/gimp/ ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/graphics/gimp/gimp/ ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/sci/graphics/packages/gimp/ ftp://ftp.minet.net/pub/gimp/ http://ftp.iut-bm.univ-fcomte.fr/pub/gimp/ ftp://ftp.fh-heilbronn.de/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/gim p/ ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/grafik/gimp/ http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/grafik/gimp/ ftp://sunsite.ics.forth.gr/sunsite/pub/gimp/ ftp://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/ http://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/ ftp://SunSITE.sut.ac.jp/pub/archives/packages/gimp / ftp://ftp.u-aizu.ac.jp/pub/graphics/tools/gimp/ http://www.ring.gr.jp/pub/graphics/gimp/ ftp://ftp.ring.gr.jp/pub/graphics/gimp/ http://mirror.nucba.ac.jp/mirror/gimp/ ftp://mirror.nucba.ac.jp/mirror/gimp/ ftp://ftp.kreonet.re.kr/pub/tools/X11/ftp.gimp.org / http://gnu.kookel.org/ftp/gimp/ ftp://gnu.kookel.org/pub/gimp/ ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/gimp/ ftp://ftp.tuniv.szczecin.pl/pub/Linux/gimp/ ftp://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/pub/graphics/gimp/ ftp://ftp.kappa.ro/pub/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/ ftp://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/pub/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/ http://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/ ftp://ftp.sai.msu.su/pub/unix/graphics/gimp/mirror / http://gimp.tsuren.net/mirror/gimp/ ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gimp/ ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/gnu/gimp/ http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/gnu/gimp/ ftp://ftp.hun.edu.tr/pub/linux/gimp/ ftp://unix.hensa.ac.uk/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/pub/gi mp/ ftp://ftp.flirble.org/pub/X/gimp/gimp/ -
server slow, mirror list:
Sorry, couldn't format it because of Slashdot's fucking filters.
ftp://ftp.is.co.za/applications/gimp/ ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/gimp/gimp/ http://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/gimp/gimp/ ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/gimp/ http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/gimp/ ftp://gimp.zeta.org.au/gimp/gimp/ ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/graphics/gimp/gimp/ ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/sci/graphics/packages/gimp/ ftp://ftp.minet.net/pub/gimp/ http://ftp.iut-bm.univ-fcomte.fr/pub/gimp/ ftp://ftp.fh-heilbronn.de/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/gim p/ ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/grafik/gimp/ http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/grafik/gimp/ ftp://sunsite.ics.forth.gr/sunsite/pub/gimp/ ftp://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/ http://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/ ftp://SunSITE.sut.ac.jp/pub/archives/packages/gimp / ftp://ftp.u-aizu.ac.jp/pub/graphics/tools/gimp/ http://www.ring.gr.jp/pub/graphics/gimp/ ftp://ftp.ring.gr.jp/pub/graphics/gimp/ http://mirror.nucba.ac.jp/mirror/gimp/ ftp://mirror.nucba.ac.jp/mirror/gimp/ ftp://ftp.kreonet.re.kr/pub/tools/X11/ftp.gimp.org / http://gnu.kookel.org/ftp/gimp/ ftp://gnu.kookel.org/pub/gimp/ ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/gimp/ ftp://ftp.tuniv.szczecin.pl/pub/Linux/gimp/ ftp://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/pub/graphics/gimp/ ftp://ftp.kappa.ro/pub/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/ ftp://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/pub/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/ http://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/ ftp://ftp.sai.msu.su/pub/unix/graphics/gimp/mirror / http://gimp.tsuren.net/mirror/gimp/ ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gimp/ ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/gnu/gimp/ http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/gnu/gimp/ ftp://ftp.hun.edu.tr/pub/linux/gimp/ ftp://unix.hensa.ac.uk/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/pub/gi mp/ ftp://ftp.flirble.org/pub/X/gimp/gimp/ -
Re:About that rate.
> charge by either ethernet frames or TCP packets
Time to change that TCP window size. -
Re:Well, this sucks!
Has anyone else noticed that Swedes are the some of the best file-sharers in the world? It's largely because they have such awesome upload caps
Actually, we don't have caps. I have friends who have their 512Kbit ADSL downloding all day, they dl around 5 gigs a day, and have been doing so for months (one would think they'd run out of things to DL, but they seem to manage to find it).
I think that Sweds share a lot of data because of the connection speeds being offered in the country. How does an uncapped line, 26MBit both directions for $45 a month sound?
Living in any of the bigger cities, you can get 26MBit ADSL, 10MBit ADSL and 11MBit wireless (works in the major part of most larger cities) for less than $50 a month. On top of that, SUNET (Swedish University Network) is giving most stdents in Sweden a 10MBit line. Sunet itself is many gigabits (don't remember how many exactly).
With connections like that, it's not difficult to see why a lot of data comes and goes from the country. -
FAST MIRROR HERE!
It has been mirrored on sunet here:ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/pc/games/gamershell/d
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corrected link *mirror*
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MySQL's own manual?
Why not download MySQL AB's own manual? It is good.
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Re:And there's a new song, too
Please use a mirror, yeah, har har. Thanks, buddy. As of now, of course, none of the mirrors have updated, possibly because people post links right to the master.
Australia (Canberra, .au only) http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/OpenBSD/songs/song 32.ogg
Australia (Melbourne) http://www.openbsd.aba.net.au/ftp/songs/song32.ogg
Australia (Sydney) http://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/OpenBSD/songs/song 32.ogg
Australia (Sydney) http://the.wiretapped.net/OpenBSD/songs/song32.ogg
Austria (Vienna) http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/OpenBSD/songs/song32. ogg
Belgium (Ghent) http://openbsd.rug.ac.be/ftp/pub/OpenBSD/songs/son g32.ogg
Canada (Edmonton) http://sunsite.ualberta.ca/pub/OpenBSD/songs/song3 2.ogg
Canada (Sherbrooke) http://gulus.usherb.ca/ftp/OpenBSD/songs/song32.og g
Finland http://ftp.fi.debian.org/OpenBSD/songs/song32.ogg
Finland (Jyvskyl) http://ftp.jyu.fi/ftp/pub/OpenBSD/songs/song32.ogg
Germany (Esslingen) http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/OpenBSD/songs /song32.ogg
Germany (Frankfurt) http://pandemonium.tiscali.de/pub/OpenBSD/songs/so ng32.ogg
Germany (Stuttgart) http://ftp.uni-stuttgart.de/pub/OpenBSD/songs/song 32.ogg
Italy (Napoli) http://ftp.openbsd.it/OpenBSD/songs/song32.ogg
Sweden (Uppsala) http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/OpenBSD/songs/song32.ogg
Sweden (Uppsala) http://mirror.pudas.net/OpenBSD/songs/song32.ogg
Taiwan http://openbsd.nsysu.edu.tw/pub/OpenBSD/songs/song 32.ogg
TamSui, Taiwan http://ftp.tku.edu.tw/pub/OpenBSD/songs/song32.ogg
USA (Batesville, AR) http://gandalf.neark.org/pub/distributions/OpenBSD /songs/song32.ogg
USA (Sunnyvale, CA) http://east.dl.sourceforge.net/mirrors/OpenBSD/son gs/song32.ogg
USA (Tallahassee, FL) http://mirror.csit.fsu.edu/pub/OpenBSD/songs/song3 2.ogg
USA (Lake in the Hills, IL) http://rt.fm/pub/OpenBSD/songs/song32.ogg
USA (Indianapolis, IN) http://archive.progeny.com/OpenBSD/songs/song32.og g
USA (West Lafayette, IN) http://ftp7.usa.openbsd.org/pub/os/OpenBSD/songs/s ong32.ogg
USA (Cambridge, MA) http://openbsd.mirrors.netnumina.com/songs/song32. ogg
USA (State College, PA) http://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/OpenBSD/songs/song3 2.ogg
USA (Fairfax, VA) http://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/OpenBSD/songs/song32.og g
USA (Fairfax, VA) http://openbsd.secsup.org/songs/song32.ogg
USA (Springfield, VA) http://www.tux.org/pub/bsd/openbsd/songs/song32.og g
USA (Madison, WI) http://mirror6.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/OpenBSD/son gs/song32.ogg -
Mirrors for Gnome2GNOME FTP Sites
GNOME FTP Sites This site is mirrored at:
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ftp://ftp.cse.buffalo.edu/pub/Gnome
ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/gnome.org/
ftp://ftp.sourceforge.net/pub/mirrors/gnome/
ftp://ftp.twoguys.org/GNOME
ftp://ftp.yggdrasil.com/mirrors/site/ftp.gnome.org / ub/GNOME/
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Australia
ftp://planetmirror.com/pub/gnome
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Europe
ftp://ftp.easynet.nl/mirror/GNOME/
ftp://ftp.unina.it/pub/linux/GNOME
ftp://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/gnome.org
ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/pub/GNOME/
ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/GNOME/
ftp://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME
ftp://ftp.codefactory.se/pub/GNOME/
ftp://ftp.dataplus.se/pub/GNOME/
ftp://ftp.dit.upm.es/pub/GNOME/
ftp://ftp.no.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/
ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/X11/GNOME/
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South America
ftp://linux.cem.itesm.mx/pub/mirrors/gnome.org
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Get To Those Mirrors!
GNOME FTP Sites This site is mirrored at:
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ftp://ftp.cse.buffalo.edu/pub/Gnome
ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/gnome.org/
ftp://ftp.sourceforge.net/pub/mirrors/gnome/
ftp://ftp.twoguys.org/GNOME
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Australia
ftp://planetmirror.com/pub/gnome
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Europe
ftp://ftp.easynet.nl/mirror/GNOME/
ftp://ftp.unina.it/pub/linux/GNOME
ftp://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/gnome.org
ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/pub/GNOME/
ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/GNOME/
ftp://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME
ftp://ftp.codefactory.se/pub/GNOME/
ftp://ftp.dataplus.se/pub/GNOME/
ftp://ftp.dit.upm.es/pub/GNOME/
ftp://ftp.no.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/
ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/X11/GNOME/
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South America
ftp://linux.cem.itesm.mx/pub/mirrors/gnome.org
Last updated Wed Jun 26 03:18:01 2002 from our mirror database (webmaster@gnome.org).
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Re:Mirrors
Karma whore alert! Please mod down, and mod this anonymous post up!
archive.progeny.com (US or Canada)
ftp.twoguys.org (US or Canada)
ftp3.sourceforge.net (US or Canada)
ftp.rpmfind.net (US or Canada)
ftp.sourceforge.net (US or Canada)
ftp.cse.buffalo.edu (US or Canada)
ftp.yggdrasil.com (US or Canada)
planetmirror.com (Australia)
ftp.sunet.se (Europe)
ftp.dataplus.se (Europe)
ftp.easynet.nl (Europe)
ftp.unina.it (Europe)
ftp.belnet.be (Europe)
ftp.codefactory.se (Europe)
ftp.tr.gnome.org (Europe)
fr.rpmfind.net (Europe)
ftp.acc.umu.se (Europe)
ftp.no.gnome.org (Europe)
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Mirrors
archive.progeny.com (US or Canada)
ftp.twoguys.org (US or Canada)
ftp3.sourceforge.net (US or Canada)
ftp.rpmfind.net (US or Canada)
ftp.sourceforge.net (US or Canada)
ftp.cse.buffalo.edu (US or Canada)
ftp.yggdrasil.com (US or Canada)
planetmirror.com (Australia)
ftp.sunet.se (Europe)
ftp.dataplus.se (Europe)
ftp.easynet.nl (Europe)
ftp.unina.it (Europe)
ftp.belnet.be (Europe)
ftp.codefactory.se (Europe)
ftp.tr.gnome.org (Europe)
fr.rpmfind.net (Europe)
ftp.acc.umu.se (Europe)
ftp.no.gnome.org (Europe)
ftp.dit.upm.es (Europe)
fr2.rpmfind.net (Europe)
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another mirror
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Re:List of mirrors
I'm (was:) getting 550KB/s from this mirror:
ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrak e/iso/
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Mirror of original archive here
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Re:What??
Ok try that again here
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Re:HOWTO: compile on windows 2000
oops.. left out the links last time. (that preview button is fucking dumb.)
(this is just adding information to the instructions provided in nt/Install in the source distribution.)
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Re:ftp mirrorsA couple of extra spaces crept in to a pair of the links there:
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should work better. Sorry. (No, I'm NOT just karma whoring! Am not!)
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Re:Synaptic Uses?I'm certainly no expert on Connectiva (as I've never used it), and my experience with Debian is limited to using apt-get and dselect a lot, but I think the answers to your questions are as follows:
is Synaptic generic enough that I could replace Mandrake Update with it?
In case the Mandrake mirrors provide the correct directory structure for apt-get to work with, yes. Otherwise no. As Mandrake distribute apt-get in contrib (at least that's what I guess the apt RPM contains), I guess the answer is "yes".
Could I install Connectiva, and then try to get packages from Debian?
No. Connectiva uses RPMs. Debian uses DEBs. They have different dependency databases, so AFAICT that shouldn't be possible.
Cheers
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Re:The GPL is about as un-American as it gets.
Your comments regarding my caps and swearing proves your sophistication, so you must be right.
As far as the GPL and the contribution of code, it is the express stated reason for the GPL that the payment for code is code in kind (in other words it's a new economy of code rather than $), and the GPL is the contract enforcing payment, and my point is that the overwhelming majority of GPLd code users never and will never contribute an iota of code. It's the myth of the GPL fantasy versus the reality. Personally I am a huge believer in the *BSD/Apache license (oh but wait: Soon MS is going to release Apache++, Apache#, Apache.Net, etc, or so the author of the pathetic and completely naive article writes) and the license is founded around a give and give freely attitude : There is no expectation of payment (unlike the GPL).
The GPL isn't revolution at all: It's some very old and unworkable ideas that became a fad but is now a falling star (at a very rapid rate). Read the quote attributed to Mr. Stallman at the bottom of http://gnomewww.sunet.se/news/fullitems/102.shtml to really understand what the GPL is all about.