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Re:Not 'free as in speech', but ratherbetter idea to develop OSS device drivers that allow read/write access to ext2/ext3/reiserfs filesystems instead.
You can already access your ext2/ext3 filesystems from Windows, using Explorer2fs.
I'm unaware of other filesystem drivers - but I know that there are different programs for accessing ext2 at least.
I used these happily a year or two ago when I was dualbooting. (I'm certain you can use ext3 as that is backwards compatible if you ignore the journal file, but I've never tested that. Back when I did this kind of thing ext3 wasn't ready for the prime time).
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Re:How about the other way around
explore2fs is quite nice.
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Re:How about the other way around
Merry Christmas. Here you go:
Explore2fs -
Re:better yet
Scroll to the bottom of this page. Read your ext2/3 partitions in Windows with glee. I'm pretty sure it can write to ext2, but not ext3.
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Re:what's the use?
I have six virtual desktops on my current single-monitor setup. I normally have at least four in use, and frequently use all six. If I had to group these on to physical monitors I would need to move to a bigger room, and would probably end up with whiplash.
I have 2 virtual desktops, (one "theory", and one "play"), and each of those is divided into a 6x4 virtual pages. These are usually full of junk, but I have sort of worked out that a particular program always goes on a particular page, (and xemacs takes up 8 different pages at a time, with position in the desktop dependant on which program is in the buffer).
I have used multiple monitor systems before (and have a laptop next to me currently, and linked by using debian's x2x - which is just the r0x0rs), and love them to death. The control computer at ATNF is a 4 headed beast, unfortunately on win NT (that crashes once a week) - the left monitor has a browser, usually open to the BOM weather page, the other 3 have about 5 different control panels and diagnostic plots.
Now, here comes the question. How does one use both a dual headed setup with a pager? I use fvwm2, and would never ever ever get rid of FvwmPager. But can it integrate with a xinerama setup? Is each of the virtual pages twice the normal size, so one virtual page spans across both monitors? Or do you have one pager per monitor?
I read something in the docs that seemed only relevant where you are not running xinerma, and instead have two separate displays - :0.0 and :0.1. I also thought I read somewhere that fvwm2 was actually xinerama aware, or being worked on.
Anyone know?
Of course, this is a moot point, because I have a 19" LCD, and there is no way in heck the department are going to buy me another flat panel, no matter what size it is (and there is not enough room on my desk for a CRT) -
Re:Sort of on topic...
There are some free and some commercial products which can offer full read/write + journalling access for ext3 partitions from Windows. I'd definitely recommend you pick ext3 over fat32.
Some examples..
Free: Explore2fs allows you to read ext2 and ext3. Limited write support is available.
Commercial: Ext2FS Anywhere don't let the name put you off as it has full read/write support for ext2, ext3 and I think reiserFS is supported now too.
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not so great for us
We tested a dual G5 for a few days (perhaps not enough) and were extrememly disappointed with it. We have 3 groups within the centre, and none of them wanted the machine after 3 days.
Except for the galaxies group, we all produce our own software.
The pulsar group (mostly using C code) found that there was no speedup using 2 threads, because of memory bandwidth, and the thing was about half the speed of our dual 2.4GHz Dell machines.
The galaxies group found their imaging software was not as quick (I don't know by how much) than on a dual 2.8GHz workstation.
And the cosmology group found there was no fortran compiler. Good way to win over the scientific community. Sure, altivec would (could?) be nice, but not if we can't compile code for it.
Maybe the gcc G95 project might work eventually, but given that we can use ifc from the Intel compiler right now, we aint going to be making the move to apple for our next cluster upgrade.
Then of course, as a workstation, I used it for 20 minutes, then gave up. Give me back my FVWM window manager please - that apple OSX interface sucks (well, for a hardcore linux user, anyway). -
not so great for us
We tested a dual G5 for a few days (perhaps not enough) and were extrememly disappointed with it. We have 3 groups within the centre, and none of them wanted the machine after 3 days.
Except for the galaxies group, we all produce our own software.
The pulsar group (mostly using C code) found that there was no speedup using 2 threads, because of memory bandwidth, and the thing was about half the speed of our dual 2.4GHz Dell machines.
The galaxies group found their imaging software was not as quick (I don't know by how much) than on a dual 2.8GHz workstation.
And the cosmology group found there was no fortran compiler. Good way to win over the scientific community. Sure, altivec would (could?) be nice, but not if we can't compile code for it.
Maybe the gcc G95 project might work eventually, but given that we can use ifc from the Intel compiler right now, we aint going to be making the move to apple for our next cluster upgrade.
Then of course, as a workstation, I used it for 20 minutes, then gave up. Give me back my FVWM window manager please - that apple OSX interface sucks (well, for a hardcore linux user, anyway). -
This Webpage is the way Science SHOULD Be!
I'm tired of going to science websites that DON'T have Bikini girls. That's what science needs to be taken seriously, more Bikini Girls! And the massive emphasis on beer makes it a Hooome Runnn with *this* hard-drinking girl-loving quantum physicist.
Yup, I'm bookmarking this one, for sure. As my favorite politician says, "I'll be back!" -
melbourne scientists
Why are all Melbourne scientists dj's?
Alex deLarge is an astronomer here, and would be DJing tonight, if he didn't get hit by a car on his scooter last week. -
Re:No visuals?
There IS visuals... See the paper here (see page 5). It's a 9 MB PDF file. That paper also mentions that the fungus DID impact the error correcting part of the CD. And it mentions on page 7:
To begin with, each computation was started by placing one disc into a stand-alone CD or DVD player and pressing play. In all cases so far, placing treated discs into computer-based, CD, CD-RW and DVD players has caused the computer or laptop to crash. For this reason, this study focused only on CD and DVD players that are modular. In most cases the disc was recognized and begain playing. If the player failed to recognize the disc, it was necessary tor emove some cell material using soft cloth [...] Note that cells were completely removed from the innermost region of data at the beginning of the disc, since this is header information necessary for the player to mount the disc.
Then it goes on the snapshot of the "treated" DVD playback on figure 6 at page 9.
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Re:Learn PostScript for your diagrams!Just want to say that I spent part of today learning the basics of Postscript and writing (E)PS. All my images really need are high quality stroked lines/paths, triangles, and ellipses, and I've learned enough to all of this in a few hours.
The tricky part will be maximizung efficiency, because I will have a couple hundred of these images. Because they will be generated in software I don't need to define any Postscript functions if I choose, though there may be cases where simple functions will reduce the size of the file.
I have also converted the output to pdf using epstopdf, which works great. Now I just need to try out pdflatex and I should be good to go.
For anyone else who's interested in projects like this, here are some useful links I've found:
A nice introductory tutorial to Postscript
The Postscript Language Tutorial and Cookbook (The Bluebook) in PDF format (quite comprehensive)
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Re:Slogan
Heaven will be a lot hotter than you expected if you do not accept other people's choices with love in your heart.
Haven't you heard? Heaven is hotter than Hell! -
Cool feature that is easy to missAs I was reading the announcement, I missed item 42 (Added win2k3 shadow copy operations to VFS interface). Taking a look at the discussion on the samba-technical list, this seems like it is a very cool feature. It paves the way for being able to look at snapshot file systems (Veritas, UFS, LVM, etc.) and even creating a VFS interface that will allow you to browse the last 64 revisions of file a CVS repository. Very cool.
Now, I would just love to see this in smbfs.
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ext2
You could use the ext2 filesystem. Mac OS X Ext2 Filesystem is a beta and Explore2efs is available for Windows.
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Re:Windows is your limiting factor
You pointed out Explore2FS, but you forgot to mention its sister program, ext2ifs.
The differences between these programs is that while Explore2FS is standalone, it supports read/write access from all Win32 versions and is generally more reliable (IMO).
ext2ifs is read only (for now), but it is an IFS, and as such it properly interfaces with Windows (NT/2K/XP/2K3/LH) and is treated the same as any hard drive. I use this system on my desktop, and my 4 EXT3 partitions from my Mandrake 9 install are readable as drive letters by WinXP.
The ext2ifs application uses ntifs.h, which is available along with links to many NT (and one 9x) IFS projects here
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Re:Windows is your limiting factorBut I guess its considered fratenizing with the enemy.
The problem is not so much the fraternizing, but the fact that the installable file system interface documentation is not available to your average open source hacker. The IFS Kit costs $899 + S&H. You just can't integrate other file systems cleanly without these docs.
In fact, there are utilities to read ext2 and ISO9660 FSs, but they are stand-alone and require you to extract the files to your native partition before they can be used.
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Cassini Oval?
I couldn't help noticing, but does this have something to do with the object "Cassini Oval"?
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Re:Modifying GRUB from Windows
Explore2fs although there is right support it is not recommended for use sadly
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The man knows his html...
Come on, the timecube guy is obviously a master at modern UI deign and html layout.
:-)
Seriously though, here are some sites whose design I like:
Sweetcode
Mathworld
openrbl.org
perldoc
Paul Borke's website
the Joel On Software forums
the Tech Report (a debatable choice, but the best of its type)
Dmitry's Design Lab
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Re:To be fair...
CD-DA isn't AIFF. CD-DA contains either 2 or four channels of 16 bit audio, sampled at 44.1 kHz, organized into blocks of 2352 bytes. It's big endian (unlike *.wav).
AIFF is a rather more involved format. One of those formats is 16 bit, 44.1 KHz audio.
The only benefit I could see to encoding directly from masters is that it is possible that the "master" could be less prone to jitter. It is concievable that higher resloution masters would be available (96Khz/24 bit) and the encoding process could take advantage of this extra data somehow. -
equation can be found here
the equation can be found here
(link found on page with java demo linked to in parent comment - thanks!)
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Here's a mirror of the Article
with other articles by the same author.
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I'll be there in 2 weeks
I heard this on the news lastnight. I was absolutely devestated. I know many of the PhD students - we have 2 visiting this insitution currently - I rang up one of them yesterday, but all her family is safe.
There have been emails flying around all the astronoical lists - my supervisor did his PhD thesis there. All the telescopes have gone. The computers destroyed - some (most? All?) tapes were stored offsite as soon as they realised there was a fire coming (why they don't store them offsite as part of normal backup routines escape me). The biggest loss will be for the students - the telescope is not at a dark sky site (Canberra is /big/ these days), but the students do most of their PhD's on this set of telescope, almost exclusively. We also lost one instrument that had just about been finished and was soon being send off to the Gemini telescopes. Another one that they were meant to be building will have to have other plans - the workshop is destroyed. A lot of the astonomers lost their houses, but so far, every life has been accounted for, and the main university site is still safe... for the time being.
I wrote my journal entry lastnight - I'm afraid it might be a bit emotional. But I will keep updaeing it as I find things out - http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/journa l/index.cgi?030119.001042611975
I'll be there in 2 weeks, as part of a cosmology school. We were meant to be taking a tour of the site. Oh shit, I don't know whether I want to go there anymore.
I am really worried about MOST telescope that the university of Sydney runs. A bit north of Canberra, but I think it is out of the way of fires. The grass around there will go up in seconds though - I hear the fire in these situations travels at up to 60 km/h. All the telescopes in Australia are somewhat unsafe from fires - the Siding Springs Observatory is in the middle of bushland, and there is no fire-break up there (I think there was one for Mt Stromlo). The fires in 1998 came too close for my liking... -
We don't see VR because of costs.
Doing a quick look on the web, I incidentally came upon quite a few astronomy sites about projecting stereo images, but the results always came out about the same: The cost of a "low cost" VR system runs around $20 grand. Cheap glasses that use a shutter effect seem to run at about $200. But, well, use your own judgement. This is just about a half hour of research:
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Re:Sure, off the shelve cheap stuff...
I really like the picture on the sites frontpage.
i can imagine the small size of the Shuttles being an advantage, not to mention the "coolness" factor looking at it. (i assume the "cool" in the intro refers to emotion and not teperature!!)
But getting computation done cheap is no longer the challenge. It's getting the data from one node to the other. They still need "custom" expensive equipment for this.
I see they use 3com gigabit ethernet. having this 300+ gigabit switch capability is not "cheap".
Until one can buy this kind of networking equipment for really cheap, we shouldn't mention things like "of the shelve Beowulf super computer in the top 100".
Up until 3 hours ago, we said we were the only machine in the top500 dedicated solely to astrophysics. Now we are one of 2 :)
But we use 180 processors, @ 2.15 GHz, and get about 0.90 Gflops/processor, whereas they get about 0.88 gflops/proc, getting us in the top 180th.
The difference being they have faster memory, and we have a big badass switch. They have two switches, with something like only 10 gigabit between the switches! We have 250gbit within our one switch. a third of our nodes have 2 gigs RAM, and we also have room for upgrade to more nodes on our switch, and they don't. So, in the words of Nelson "Hee haw!" :)
When they say $1000 per proc, they are not factoriing in their two switches. This will bring the price up to about $500,000, unless someone is donating a switch or 2 :)
We have about the same cost ratio - something like 250,000 .au dollars for all our procs (and maybe switch - I don't know the details) - half the performance, half the cost. -
Yet Another Eclipse Site
This time, from where I work, yet another 2002 eclipse website
They plan on having a live braodcast, but somehow I don't think that will work. -
So this doesn't have a pretty GUI?
Am I correct in assuming that this Darwin ISO will not install the pretty GUI associated with OSX?
Last Saturday I played with my RedHat 7.3 distro, to make it look a little like MacOS. This was accomplished with a Sawfish theme, a GTK 2 theme, an XMMS skin and a Nautilus theme.
Three screenshots within GNOME: http://opax.swin.edu.au/~137591/linux/ -
Re:*sigh*
For straight CPU intensive tasks it matters.
But for 99% of normal peoples taskes 10% whont matter.
10% never matters. We regularly run simulations here that take a month. What is 10% on top of a month? 3 days. If you have already been waiting 30 days, what does another 3 matter? It probably corresponds to the weekend anyway..... -
Re:Sigh... I want a *cooler* processor...
.4GHz+ certified fan, was still running after it died, fan still in place, no airflow blockage, but 30C outside, 40C in my room, then some in the case and running at 100% load. Sigh... back to Duron 700
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Wow! 10 degrees extra in your room from your computer.
I am perfectly happy with my 650 MHz laptop (I expolicity bought the slowest one I could find at the time - 1.x years ago), and occasionally investigate getting it go slower (by either cpufreq or APM or ACPI. I also used to use a key combination on the dell inspiron laptops which took the speed down to 200MHz or so on the fly, but I have forgotten it now :( ). My desktop is 500MHz, and also is perfectly fine for everything I do. It's processor is room temp to touch! The fan failed once, and it stopped working, but it didn't kill the CPU, despite being and AMD K2 chip.
If I want speed (for my research), I will come into work, and use our cluster, but for a home computer, my two are perfectly happy.
I still don't understand people's facination with speed (especially the 5% or so we see in these benchmarks reported in the article), outside of the researching domain.
Games shmames.
Of course, our cluster is now (as of about 1 week ago) composed mostly of rack mounted dual p4's - 60 of those, and you can hear the whine from the fans outside the bloody server room and up the escalators! I haven't been inside yet - but I am told it was real bad before our sysadmin installed the bios update that had the fan speed control stuff in it! -
Re:Correct location: far side of the moon
You wouldn't believe how increasingly difficult it is to do decent Radio Astronomy these days. Heck, the processor in your laptop or desktop is likely radiating right in "L" band (about 1.4 GHz). We thought big hulking monitors were bad until we measured the E/M interference from flat panel displays (it's bad). We're struggling to deal with the onslaught of laptops, 802.11b wireless equipment, PDAs and the like at places like Green Bank. And don't even start to talk about Iridium...
We got an email on the ATNF system about a month ago from a friend of mine (Daniel Mitchell - no doubt his web page ought to have a bit of info) who researches interference mitigation. He said the people who had been operating at 1.4GHz (or was it 2.8?) had finally turned off their bloody transmitter. Much elation! I've had to work around that bloody frequency before.
With current interferometers (ATNF narrabri is one) you get rid of some of the interference by default, because hopefully, the signals go to the 2 antennae in the single baseline at the same time, cancelling each other out (I believe this is a gross simplification, I can't remember the full details). Daniel is working on a small peice of equipment at Narrabri for his thesis, where he will be able to get rid of the interference from several land and satellite transmitters completely, by mixing it back with the signals to each of the telescopes. He is researching, along with many others, how best to do this with SKA. One way it to grab a whole bunch of nulls (destructive interference between all the telescopes) and chuck them in the direction of the offending transmitters. Again, I know no details!
Incidentally, somewhere, I have a photo from inside the observing room at Narrabri, which is surrounding by a Faraday cage (along with the friggin big correlator computers downstairs), where you can see at the controlling desk 4 or those little LCD beasties. Nice :) -
Birthing of stupid patents from hell
How about this?
I was searching for the butt hinge patent, but all kinds of wild things showed up on google. This is a riot. -
Re:A Real Railgun - done as class project
Alternately, check out the class project version here.
I want to take the class that has students creating these kinds of toys for credit. -
Re:Hoaxhere si the site for those that may not get to it...
What is Tinfoil Hat linux ? It started as a secure, single floppy, bootable Linux distribution for storing PGP keys and then encrypting, signing and wiping files. At some point it became an exercise in over-engineering.
Tinfoil hat is useful if:- You're using a computer that could have a keystroke logger installed. http://www.keyghost.com is an example of a tiny & cheap hardware logger.
- You need to use your personal GPG keys at work, school or a web hosting facility where you don't trust or own the equipment.
- If you maintain a PGP Certificate Authority or signing key and have to have a safe place to use the CA key.
- If you simply don't want to risk putting a PGP key on a hard drive where someone else might have access to it.
- The Illuminati are watching your computer, and you need to use morse code to blink out your PGP messages on the numlock key.
- readme.txt, also on the floppy image
- The source code for files on the floppy
- The tinfoilhat linux floppy image plus disk signature file Transfer this image to disk using rawrite (on windows) , dd on unix (dd if=tinfoil.img of=/dev/floppy ), or Diskcopy on a MAC.
- Q: Why doesn't the floppy I got at codecon match the signature above?
A: because I screwed up & wrote a nvram.md5 file to the floppy I then used as a master. I had to remove that file from every floppy. The result is that the MD5sum of the codecon floppies should be: 3608290765de7d5283a1a22813677a56 - Q: How do I undo that horrible screen in paranoid mode?
A: Type "contrast" at the command prompt, or play with ctheme. - Q: Is this really a 1.0 stable release?
A: Think of this as a linux kernel 1.0 . Yes, it's stable to the best of my ability, and has been tested, but not for very long or by many people. - Q: What sort of hardware is required to run tinfoil hat?
A: Any 386DX or faster IBM compatible with more than 8 megs of RAM. Pretty much any PC made in the last 8 years will work fine. - Q: where do I send complaints, bugs & feature requests?
A: anonymous AT nameless DOT cultists.net - Q: What is the license for this distribution?
A: The scripts, documentation, and the distribution as a collection are released under a modified BSD license. Obviously, other people's software in this distribution retain their original licenses.
- Aluminum foil deflector beanie from zapatopi
- The man in the Tinfoil Hat . A good example for people confused by the tinfoil hat reference.
- http://www.gnupg.org
- Joelm's comprehensive TEMPEST site.
- Tempest for Eliza A fun tool for observing the radiation from your computer. If anybody ports this to Direct FB, I'll put it on tinfoil hat in a flash.
- Diceware a tool for generating very secure passphrases.
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Re:How to write S�ren's name
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Re:Normality
The answer they should have given you was this: The definition of factorial that we gave you was for your ease of understanding. The real definition is that the factorial is the integer special case of the gamma function. The gamma function looks like this. As you can see, when you evaluate the integral, you'll get 0!=1. For the noncalculus savvy, check out the graph.
Its really ironic that they don't mention this in calculus classes because the students have the knowledge to actually work it out for themselves. Perhaps some do, but I didn't see the gamma function until college. Seeing it earlier might have really helped me with my plan to take over the world.
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This is the parralax barrier method.
The way the do this isn't new. Despite the quite poor explaination of how it works in the review and on their home page I think this is a minor variation on the parral barrier method, explained with diagrams here (N.B. the first method on the page). All they have done is move the barrier from in front to between the liquid crystal and the backlight. It was invented by Frederick Ives in 1903, so it's not that new. If you want to make your own you should try printing a lot of fine lines on some acatate, and experimenting with that, certainly cheaper than their monitor.
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Re:Well...
This is a utility that lets you read ext2fs partitions from NT/2000. I haven't heard of an actual filesystem driver that does this for Windows - but it would come in very handy...
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Re:Daylight saving.
I think you might be looking for zoneinfo. On a quick glance through the definition file, it appears that the dates have been set by the EU since 1996:
Rule EU 1981 max - Mar lastSun 1:00u 1:00 S Rule EU 1996 max - Oct lastSun 1:00u 0 -
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Re:Actually it's a Julia Set
For some reason I thing that Lorentz was one of these people I don't know of Lorenz (I assume that's who you meant) doing any work with fractals directly. However he did a lot for chaos theory, by discovering a normal problem that displayed sensitive dependance on intitial conditions (he had a weather simulator. After seeing some interesting behaviour, he wanted to watch it again, so he typed in the same seeds, but they weren't printed out with the full precision that was used interally, so before long he got qualitatively different results. Trying to isolate this behaviour which struck him as odd (how can 0.000001 difference change everything?) he simplified his system and came up with the Lorenz Attractor - rather than settling on a point or into an oscillating pattern, his system approached a curve of infinite complexity - a strange attractor.
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Accessing ext2 under Windows
I've been using explore2fs for quite a while. It's a Delphi program, in Windows Explorer, and although it's a little slow, it gives full read and experimental write access to all partitions on all drives on your computer. Open source, too!
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Re:Okay, whateverThe numbers he picked were rather surprising to me too (and a little arbitrary I think.)
There is also the question of the numbers he left out -- certain numbers seem 'built-in' to the universe and I wonder why that is exactly -- are they a consequence of some baser truth or reality? If these physical constants mentioned in the article vary in other universes, would these mathematical constants also vary?
I'm talking about the famous Pi, Phi (ie, the Golden Ratio), and e (Euler's Constant) among others. Why is the ratio of a circle's diameter to its circumfirence exactly 3.1415...?
It's all very confusing to me. But then I like to look at the pretty fractals.
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Re:Okay, whateverThe numbers he picked were rather surprising to me too (and a little arbitrary I think.)
There is also the question of the numbers he left out -- certain numbers seem 'built-in' to the universe and I wonder why that is exactly -- are they a consequence of some baser truth or reality? If these physical constants mentioned in the article vary in other universes, would these mathematical constants also vary?
I'm talking about the famous Pi, Phi (ie, the Golden Ratio), and e (Euler's Constant) among others. Why is the ratio of a circle's diameter to its circumfirence exactly 3.1415...?
It's all very confusing to me. But then I like to look at the pretty fractals.
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Re:Installing as rootThere's a utility for Windows that allows you to browse an ex2fs partition and copy files to and from it.
What is this utility, and where can I get it?
Here it is: href="http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linu x/
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Motif not dead? AIEEE! HOW DO WE KILL IT?
Motif set about to capture the 'visual elegance' of Windows (pre-95), and has been stuck there ever since. The stupid drop-down fly-out menus (as opposed to drop down - scroll) Motif has are grounds enough for shooting someone. Motif does not "provide a GUI for Unix applications" -- it makes UNIX look retarded! It says, "Warning! This system is unusable! Try your toaster instead!"
http://yawara.anime.net/gaijinFAQ/n etscape.html
It being the case that Motif sucks beyond belief, and that Netscape Navigator uses Motif, you basically have to maim it to let it display Japanese in things like the Menu-bar, Bookmarks, and Forms.
http://www.catalog.com/hopkins/ simcity/keynote.html
It wouldn't have been possible to port SimCity to X11 using Open Software Foundation's Motif toolkit. It just absolutely sucks. It's not open, and you have to pay for the source code, and it's not being maintained.
http://www.mandrakeuser.org/connec t/cbrowse.html
The interface sucks. It is built with the legacy Motif library.
http://shadowrun.html.com/ubb /Forum2/HTML/000007.html
And I programmed in C/X-windows/Motif for ten years. The most far away I can stand from that monster, the happier I am :)
http://www.motifzone.com/resources/sta rt.htm
Let's face it, X/Motif are sophisticated pieces of system software with lots of flexibility and power.
http://slashdot.org/articles/99 /03/01/0644222.shtml
I'm a professional X11 programmer, and GTK+ is one of the nicest widget sets about. Combined with GNOME it has the potential to beat even the object frameworks produced by Less Palatable Companies. For people who have never done professional X11 programming, Motif is CRAP. Everybody hates it. It was designed by a committee, and damn it shows. There's a reason it's called Bloatif. Even the addon packages to make Motif more usable (by giving it workable file dialogs, tree views, and a drag and drop you don't have to implement 90% by hand) are buggy, slow and memory hungry.
http://slashdot.org/books/99/03/22 /0826250.shtml
If it weren't for GTK I'd probably be programming Motif (well, OK, actually I'd be programming in QT, but that's besides the point). Motif is much like raw X Window System calls, except that Motif is MUCH MUCH WORSE! Motif is much like the stinky dead fish that your dog insists on digging up every time you try to throw it away. The world needs more Motif applications like I need a hole in my head. I can go on and on about this. Really, I can. Moral of the story: Learn a toolkit. Believe me on this one. I've made dumber comments, but few have been more true. Just don't do Motif. :^)
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BTW, I agree about Motif. I think it was the worst thing to happen to Unix, ever. I think it did more to harm Unix as a platform than anything else that ever occurred during the 30+ years that Unix has been in existence.
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Motif/Lesstif is arguably worse than gtk, and I programmed a lot of Motif.
If the designers of X-Windows built cars, there would be no fewer than five steering wheels hidden about the cockpit, none of which followed the same principles -- but you'd be able to shift gears with your car stereo. Useful feature, that. - Marus J. Ranum, Digital Equipment Corporation
http://ecco.bsee.swin.edu.au/un ix/uh/x-windows.html
The Motif Self-Abuse Kit
X gave Unix vendors something they had professed to want for years: a standard that allowed programs built for different computers to interoperate. But it didn't give them enough. X gave programmers a way to display windows and pixels, but it didn't speak to buttons, menus, scroll bars, or any of the other necessary elements of a graphical user interface. Programmers invented their own. Soon the Unix community had six or so different interface standards. A bunch of people who hadn't written 10 lines of code in as many years set up shop in a brick building in Cambridge, Massachusetts, that was the former home of a failed computer company and came up with a "solution:" the Open Software Foundation's Motif. What Motif does is make Unix slow. Real slow. A stated design goal of Motif was to give the X Window System the window management capabilities of HP's circa-1988 window manager and the visual elegance of Microsoft Windows. We kid you not. Recipe for disaster: start with the Microsoft Windows metaphor, which was designed and hand coded in assembler. Build something on top of three or four layers of X to look like Windows. Call it "Motif." Now put two 486 boxes side by side, one running Windows and one running Unix/Motif. Watch one crawl. Watch it wither. Watch it drop faster than the putsch in Russia. Motif can't compete with the Macintosh OS or with DOS/Windows as a delivery platform. -
Re:If this false reading started it all ...Actually, surprisingly enough the very first extrasolar planets were detected after a false alarm. These are not the relatively nearby planrts of Marcy and Butler, but the rather bizarre pulsar planets found by Alexander Wolszczan, of which two have been confirmed since 1994. In 1992, Matthew Bailes, then a PhD student at Jodrell Bank (I think - later he was a post-doc in the astro group I was in) "discovered" a pulsar planet with a period of 6 months - had a paper published in Nature and all. Then had to retract the claim a few months later when they realised it was a calibration error. But others were already looking for other pulsar planets and found some real ones!
I can tell you, he is NOT in the least bit proud to have sent others looking in the right direction by his mistake!!
An excellent reference on extra-solar planets in general is the Extrasolar Planets Encyclopedia.
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explore2fs
try this. there are a few other nifty bits and pieces there too..
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Re:Why not dual boot?
Finally, go grab some filesystem drivers that can read Ext2
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Re:arg! -- Whoops!There is a decent mirror at http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/. From there I've fetched the complete list of mirrors, which follows.
List of Jargon Resources Mirror Sites USA:
- http://www.akrotech.com/~darkstar/jargon
- http://memes.org/jargon
- http://www.journalism.wisc.edu/jargon/
- http://www.mindspring.com/~li mbert/hacking/jargon.htm
- http://www.iscvt.org/jargon/jargon.html
- http://www.babcom.com/jargon/index.html
- http://www.hackboy.com/jargon
- http://www.pulhas.org/
- http://www2.netdoor.com/~lhand
- http://avatar.deva.net/
- http://www.blee.net/jargon
- http://www.fortuneci ty.com/skyscraper/jolt/15/jargonindex.html
- http://www.jargon.8hz.com/
- http://culture.0wnz-u.org/
- http://www.houseofhack.com/jargon
- http://jollyrogers.com/jargon/
- http://handel.math.psu.edu/jargon
- http://celestrion.totalaccess.net/do cs/jargon/
- http://www.pir.net/pir/jargon/
- http://www.technozen.com/tetsuo/jargon/
- http://ude.org/jargon
- http://web.chad.org/usr/doc/jargon-file/
- http://karnak.nmc.siu.edu/jargon/
Australia:
Austria: http://www.snafu.priv.at/jargon/Czechoslovakia: ttp://www.instinct.org/texts/jargon-file/
Finland: http://zone.pspt.fi/jargon/
Germany:
- http://www.ude.org/jargon
- http://www.ghks.de/computer/jargon/
- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~rene/jargo n/
- http://hex.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/jargon/
- http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de
/~bergt/jargon
Gret Britain: http://jargon.strugglers.net
Greece: http://www.hack.gr/jargon
Italy: http://beatles.cselt.stet.it/mirrors/jargon
Japan: http://www.vacia.is.tohoku.ac.jp/jargon/
Norway: http://www.pvv.ntnu.no/misc/jargon/ Poland: http://www.uci.agh.edu.pl/jargon/
Spain: http://www.undersec.com/jargon
Sweden: http://ftp.sunet.se/jargon/
U.K.:
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Re:arg! -- Whoops!There is a decent mirror at http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/. From there I've fetched the complete list of mirrors, which follows.
List of Jargon Resources Mirror Sites USA:
- http://www.akrotech.com/~darkstar/jargon
- http://memes.org/jargon
- http://www.journalism.wisc.edu/jargon/
- http://www.mindspring.com/~li mbert/hacking/jargon.htm
- http://www.iscvt.org/jargon/jargon.html
- http://www.babcom.com/jargon/index.html
- http://www.hackboy.com/jargon
- http://www.pulhas.org/
- http://www2.netdoor.com/~lhand
- http://avatar.deva.net/
- http://www.blee.net/jargon
- http://www.fortuneci ty.com/skyscraper/jolt/15/jargonindex.html
- http://www.jargon.8hz.com/
- http://culture.0wnz-u.org/
- http://www.houseofhack.com/jargon
- http://jollyrogers.com/jargon/
- http://handel.math.psu.edu/jargon
- http://celestrion.totalaccess.net/do cs/jargon/
- http://www.pir.net/pir/jargon/
- http://www.technozen.com/tetsuo/jargon/
- http://ude.org/jargon
- http://web.chad.org/usr/doc/jargon-file/
- http://karnak.nmc.siu.edu/jargon/
Australia:
Austria: http://www.snafu.priv.at/jargon/Czechoslovakia: ttp://www.instinct.org/texts/jargon-file/
Finland: http://zone.pspt.fi/jargon/
Germany:
- http://www.ude.org/jargon
- http://www.ghks.de/computer/jargon/
- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~rene/jargo n/
- http://hex.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/jargon/
- http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de
/~bergt/jargon
Gret Britain: http://jargon.strugglers.net
Greece: http://www.hack.gr/jargon
Italy: http://beatles.cselt.stet.it/mirrors/jargon
Japan: http://www.vacia.is.tohoku.ac.jp/jargon/
Norway: http://www.pvv.ntnu.no/misc/jargon/ Poland: http://www.uci.agh.edu.pl/jargon/
Spain: http://www.undersec.com/jargon
Sweden: http://ftp.sunet.se/jargon/
U.K.: