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There are procedures to report those crimes. I don't know of Snowden following them.

He did. The result was partly what convinced him to go another way.

The other part that convinced him? What happened to the others that tried before him.

Why call it Dark-Mail?

Because it was better than the first name the came up with. From TechDirt:

Levison joked that they went with "Dark Mail" because "Black Mail" might have negative connotations.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131030/11091025070/dark-mail-alliance-lavabit-silent-circle-team-up-to-try-to-create-surveillance-proof-email.shtml

(3) Its probably not even unethical. Even when the people involved are assholes, I have a real problem with criminalizing, regulating or punishing people for political speech

I definitely have a problem with the existence of an intentional complex and opaque regulatory code being created to deter political organizations and political speech. More often then not, it won't be used against Koch, but against little guys.

Don't worry about that First Amendment. Your Lord Protector Sir Keith Alexander will keep you safe from that.

Firstly, corporate sovereignty has been decreasing for decades.

I'm glad I clipped this article from the day before yesterday:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131024/11560725004/what-does-isds-mean-corporate-sovereignty-pure-simple.shtml

"Decreasing for decades"? Absolutely not. Each international trade agreement brings an enormous increase in corporate sovereignty. And we're about to ratify the Trans Pacific Partnership, which is the Big Kahuna of international trade agreements.

Doesn't this amount to the Department of the Defense propagandizing directly to the U.S. public? What is acceptable and what is not?

I can see press conferences, announcements, and factual information, but when does it become an attempt to persuade the public?

Oh, you didn't hear? They repealed the law that forbade the US government from using it's (formerly) foreign propaganda tools and assets domestically against US citizens.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130715/11210223804/anti-propaganda-ban-repealed-freeing-state-dept-to-direct-its-broadcasting-arm-american-citizens.shtml

http://reason.com/24-7/2013/07/15/with-ban-repealed-us-aims-propaganda-mac

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/17/1224321/-U-S-Government-Repeals-Ban-Opens-Floodgate-to-Mass-Agitprop-Meant-for-Domestic-Consumption

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3043041/posts

What I find interesting is that we see publications as politically/ideologically diverse as Daily KOS and Free Republic both highly critical of this travesty.

If only people would stop looking at only what they differ on and unite on what they agree on. That's how the government and their lackeys plays people. They stir up wedge-issue shit, create a carefully-crafted narrative, and push it through the various communications medias to enrage and divide people and suck all of the oxygen out of the air for public discussion about actual meaningful oversight, reform, and accountability of government and the political class.

I guarantee that even as a white male in his mid-50s, I and a 16-YO black or Latino gang-banger in the 'hood STILL have far, far more in common and agree with each other's views far more across the board then either of us would with the average Washington D.C. politician or apparatchik, regardless of political party.

Instead of, for instance, arguing over "racism" over the Trayvon/Zimmerman incident, how about holding those responsible for the 35% black unemployment rate and the generally crap economy that had Trayvon and has many more like him out on the streets instead of working a job and raising a family, responsible for their actions or lack of, and craft some practical solutions instead of trying to start a race war.

Same thing with Chicago/Detroit gun violence...treat the cause not the symptoms. Hold the politicians responsible for the high poverty & unemployment in those cities and others around nation responsible for the crime, violence, and hopelessness it breeds instead of attempting to shift the blame to 2A rights and individual gun ownership.

Always watch the other hand. Do you really think any of those politicians and political apparatchiks give a single damn about gun deaths or racism? All any of them (outside of a couple of pariahs of the mainstream party-establishments) actually care about is securing and increasing their wealth & power by increasing and broadening every aspect of their control over YOU.

Welcome to "Serfdom, 21st-Century Style!".

Strat

Cold even their own docs http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131019/02322924936/accidentally-revealed-document-shows-tsa-doesnt-think-terrorists-are-plotting-to-attack-airplanes.shtml show the world has moved on :)

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131019/02322924936/accidentally-revealed-document-shows-tsa-doesnt-think-terrorists-are-plotting-to-attack-airplanes.shtml

It was on /. a few days ago if I recall. Here's at least one news source

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131018/13291924928/healthcaregov-violates-open-source-license.shtml

Supposedly they bundled the software in with the other JS but stripped out the licence. Understandable given the plaintext nature of JS but still a licence violation none the less.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121109/16132820999/teen-hacker-banned-internet-six-years.shtml

That's one way, the other way is some people with guns come by and put you some place where there is no internet access. The latter can happen if you ignore the ban and the court finds out.

That the NSA gets first crack at zero day should tell us something.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130614/02110223467/microsoft-said-to-give-zero-day-exploits-to-us-government-before-it-patches-them.shtml

http://slashdot.org/story/13/04/04/1825231/want-to-keep-messages-from-the-feds-use-imessage These guys called it http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130405/01485922590/dea-accused-leaking-misleading-info-falsely-implying-that-it-cant-read-apple-imessages.shtml So leaked documents are being used for disinformation. Hmm... http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/oct/04/tor-stinks-nsa-presentation-document

A year-long review of a police shooting in Cleveland has finally concluded. The investigation stems from a police pursuit late last year that resulted in the deaths of both suspects in the vehicle, who were at the receiving end of 137 bullets fired by Cleveland police officers.

Yeah, like how they were held accountable for these takedowns which were done *in violation of US law, by the US government*? Oh, right, they weren't.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101222/02112912376/more-bigger-mistakes-discovered-homeland-securitys-domain-seizures.shtml

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110217/00082213144/homeland-security-wont-even-admit-whether-not-it-seized-mooocom-taking-down-84000-innocent-sites.shtml

Yeah, like how they were held accountable for these takedowns which were done *in violation of US law, by the US government*? Oh, right, they weren't.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101222/02112912376/more-bigger-mistakes-discovered-homeland-securitys-domain-seizures.shtml

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110217/00082213144/homeland-security-wont-even-admit-whether-not-it-seized-mooocom-taking-down-84000-innocent-sites.shtml

Would you like a Palantir with your Siri, or just plain Narus and Amdocs?

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/08/in-salt-lake-city-for-the-2002-olympics-the-nsa-may-have-read-your-texts/
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130821/00421524264/nsa-fbi-spied-all-emails-salt-lake-city-before-after-olympics.shtml
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/08/nsa-olympics-spying-salt-lake-city/
"nobody agreed that we would trade off our fundamental civil rights for the government to come in and spy on us"

uhm, the Prosecutors have pushed for and received broad, sweeping laws from Congress and the States that allow them to "crack down on crime." The problem is as the net has gotten bigger, there are cases everywhere where small fish get caught up and suffer tortuous charges for very petty things. That's how our Liberals and Conservatives in the country can sleep better at knight knowing that their jack-booted law enforcement is on the case. I had to hire an attorney a few years ago for my son because he decked a kid in school who'd taken a swing at him. He was facing a misdemeanor assault charge with up to a $4000 Fine and 6 months in jail. This was at 14 and happened because the schools are now treating petty incidents as crimes and it's happening all over the country because of the war on drugs and zero-tolerance policies. It's a direct result to make our schools "safe." https://www.aclu.org/racial-justice/arrested-futures-criminalization-school-discipline-massachusetts-three-largest-school

It doesn't make them safe and schools all over the country now resemble prisons in terms of their policies and on-site police to enforce bullshit. It's a great lesson to teach our youth. How about breaking your arm for leaving crumbs on the ground? Doodling on your desk? Flying a paper airplane?

Yet, you want more laws to reign in prosecutors? We have enough laws and enough police all wearing their swat gear and bullet proof vests all supplied with funds from the DHS. While we were sleeping, this nation became a Police State and from your rights on the street to the prosecutors the deck is stacked against you and while we fault the Prosecutors here, which they should be, we also have to remember that if there wasn't a set of laws on the book that they could charge him with there wouldn't be a problem. The CFAA is overly broad and needs to be changed, narrowed or eliminated but the risk here is that we could get worse legislation by that band of Retards on Capitol Hill. http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/hackers_hell_many_want_to_narrow_the_computer_fraud_and_abuse_act/

Swartz is one case, he at least had visibility. Think of all those souls in Prison who had a public defender and a plea deal lessening the charges or the duration of the sentence possibly faced. That's the game, build a case so big that if you go to trial the Prosecution by leveraging these vague laws will try to throw the book at you and put you away forever. That's why Aaron took the route he did, a big case, felony charges, years and years in prison and the Prosecution had the tools to do it. He should have put his faith in a Jury and the Legal Process and fought, instead he died and everybody is still debating it but not really doing anything about it. Why? Because we've become accustomed to all these new broad laws and powers we put in the hands of our government. That's so we're taking an active part in stopping crime. Crime is bad, so let's give the police and the prosecutors the tools they need to fight crime. The problem is broad-scoped laws can be used against you even though you send one too many e-mails or encourage to your members to do so.

It's time that the American public took back it's government and removed the Democrats and Republicans or at least took the approach of voting out all the incumbents. That's your last bastion of hope here folks because if you don't you'll get the same bunch of retards being re-elected over and over again and since they don't fear the voter, they'

Whether or not Swartz was naive, or not, or his suicide was justified, or not, all of us who respected what he stood for can continue his work on such a low flame that none of us runs any significant risk.

For example, I just finished using my $14.90 "quarterly free" allocation on PACER to upload documents to RECAP. Some history about RECAP can be found here. I encourage everyone who admired Swartz to open a PACER account and continue the work of populating RECAP.

> Committing suicide to avoid this process, for example, is not a responsible thing to do.

What is your opinion of armed rebellion against an unjust government? Because the particular case of Swartz's suicide strikes me as a strange kind of passive-aggressive version of armed rebellion.

On a related note, I just finished using my $14.90 "quarterly free" allocation on PACER to upload documents to RECAP. Some history about RECAP can be found here. I encourage everyone who admired Swartz to open a PACER account and continue the work of populating RECAP.

And then there's dirty little tricks like this. http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130416/08344222725/congress-quickly-quietly-rolls-back-insider-trading-rules-itself.shtml

The Green group in the European parliament has already mostly adopted the Swedish Pirate Party's stance on copyright.

Uhhh...they already KNOW they are being watched but don't care because unlike the peasants it won't be used against them. We know this because Dianne Feinstein Accidentally Confirms That NSA Tapped The Internet Backbone is the headline at Techdirt. Frankly none of us should be surprised by this, after all there is "rich people's laws" and the laws the peasants have to live under and rarely are they the same.

Honestly I doubt we'll be having to worry about this too much longer as when the stock market bubble bursts they won't have enough money to pay for a guy to tap a single phone, much less the entire backbone. When that bubble pops it'll make 29 look like a flash crash, we are talking a good half a century of depression, and I seriously doubt that with as much hatred as the people have for the current system it will survive another major crash. The only reason we aren't seeing our very own Arab Spring is the safety net keeps much of the poor fed, when that all dries up? I have a feeling the USA will go the way of the USSR. Oh well, no empire lasts forever and this one has gotten so corrupt they don't even pretend to give a fuck anymore, they are too busy looting the coffers and cashing bribes to care.

Even trained federal agents can't seem to tell the difference, and you expect an automated algorithm can? How exactly do you tell the difference between an advance copy posted to a blog by the artist themselves and an advance copy illegally leaked to a blog by someone else? The difference between kiddy porn and pirated content is that kiddy porn is always illegal. The exact same .mp3 file on the exact same server could be illegal today and legal tomorrow if the guy hosting it goes and asks for permission.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111208/08225217010/breaking-news-feds-falsely-censor-popular-blog-over-year-deny-all-due-process-hide-all-details.shtml

Except that studies show that "pirates" actually spend far *more* money on legal media:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121126/00590921141/dear-riaa-pirates-buy-more-full-stop-deal-with-it.shtml

If I search for "loli president bomb" then that's what's going to get me in trouble, not the results I receive.

As if the user-agent string wouldn't land you on the watchlist. That wasn't a joke by the way. And as far as the results you receive, you probably shouldn't trust those either. But let's set aside your awesome new indy band name Loli: President Bomb and focus on the real issue here: The gullibility of free software consumers. They are exactly as gullible as Windows and Macintosh users, it would seem: They're trusting an abstract organization that is continuing to collect personally-identifiable information, simply because said organization upon being caught doing so, has said "oops! Our bad. We'll anonymize the data now." And these people should know better than to believe such claims.

Perhaps it is a sign of how far Linux has come into the mainstream then: It's become the microbrew of the IT world. All these new distributions, the promise of being trendy, geeky, and cool... and yet, suspiciously lacking in all of the things that made "Free as in freedom, not free as in beer" so appealing to the much smaller community of non-hipsters that was here before. Linux has finally made it to the big time: It's become "hip". And no surprise...Ubuntu, like many other major distributions, sees the chance at monetization and is taking it. Oh, I know... I'll get modbombed again for suggesting that the pure and noble Linux isn't like all the other operating systems out there... but then, wasn't that the goal all along? To create an alternative to closed source? Mission: Accomplished. Too bad success isn't what they thought it would look like.

When/if the hypothetical 3D-printing is used by both the fake and the real — producing indistinguishable pieces from the same designs — the clothing designer will stop being a profession and become a hobby.

Have you seen the fashion industry lately? (and by lately I mean for decades) It's entirely copy what's hot and make something as close to the original as possible. Nobody NEEDS the latest fashion, yet year after year it's a multi-billion dollar industry that's rife with product that is very hard to distinguish from the brand name stuff.

if some other way to reward designers is not found, they'll stop designing

They currently do NOT have any 'reward' for fashion designers. There is no IP protection in fashion. And yet they make very very good money - oh and they haven't stopped designing. It's a cut-throat business to be sure, but that just means the best rise and innovate faster than the market can keep up. Exactly how a free market is supposed to work.

http://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20130311/01344922277/government-might-want-to-legalize-phone-unlocking-unfortunately-it-signed-away-that-right.shtml

The interesting part is treaties can (and do) override what the US federal government can do. :/

Showing that in the USA, Apple can't make the claim that biometric data is never transmitted over the network'

Who gives a flying phantasm about the transmission of data? In the U.S. this is a step backwards for privacy.

Your fingerprints are something you have, not something you know. You can be compelled to produce them, and they are not considered protected 'testimonial', just like blood, urine, or DNA samples. Your 5th amendment rights, on shaky ground as it is regarding pass-phrases, will not apply to this security model.

From the first or second "The People's Almanac http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_People's_Almanac
and http://www.amazon.com/The-Peoples-Almanac-David-Wallechinsky/dp/0385040601
November 1975 and October 1978 respectfully

It was mentioned in Russia one can't just up and move or go somewhere . You must first get permission and
be supplied with the proper papers. Showing papers at every border crossing or when asked for them.
To be arrested or penalized in some manner if you papers weren't in order or being carried.

It went on to say there's no real difference in the United States.

At any time you can be asked for your drivers license or an ID; if you don' t have one,
you can be arrested for not having a proper ID. If you don't have a place to live or less that so many dollars at the time,
you can also be arrested for vagrancy

The situation isn't new; just the ways of running afoul of the legal system have increased.

Showing that in the USA, Apple can't make the claim that biometric data is never transmitted over the network'

Who gives a flying phantasm about the transmission of data? In the U.S. this is a step backwards for privacy.

Your fingerprints are something you have, not something you know. You can be compelled to produce them, and they are not considered protected 'testimonial', just like blood, urine, or DNA samples. Your 5th amendment rights, on shaky ground as it is regarding pass-phrases, will not apply to this security model.

Your are confusing retail mark up with the recording industry. Record stores take half... AFTER the record companies sell to them. I am talking about BEFORE record companies distribute to the stores. Yes, record companies take more than half, right off the top.

No, it's not. Saboteurs break machines and bring them to a halt. Check the etymology.

How about using the modern definition instead? Sabotage: "the act of destroying or damaging something deliberately so that it does not work correctly"

I mean, the NSA sabotaged an encryption standard, so it seems like this would be similarly sabotaging a batch of CPUs.

I think that argument can work both ways. If they don't know the laws, they can't enforce them.

They're certainly going to know the law better than any normal person and they'll have people that know them much better than your average Joe. If they want someone they just have to dig around and twist meanings. Prosecution overreach happens all the time.

The NSA is certainly not piping data to local police departments

Exaggerating? You sure about that?

Besides, I really think they just don't care about J. Random Citizen complaining on the street or on the Internet. That's not a threat to them. They're more likely to feel threatened by journalists, as we have seen.

Your right. They don't care about people talking. Let them rant and complain all they want. But try to do something that might actually have an impact and they'll get interested real fast.

More generalizing.

The fact that everything didn't happen to everyone doesn't mean I'm generalizing.

Those that were were not harassed by federal agents but by the NYPD.

Some were harassed by federal agents. So you're claiming that local police departments don't work with Federal law enforcement? That's crap. The link above puts the lie to that. Just because they're not all part of one monolithic control structure doesn't mean they can't and aren't working together towards the same goals. Local police departments are militarizing way beyond what's required for a police force. They send fully armed combat teams for mundane arrest that could be accomplished by 2 guys knocking on a door or even a phone call. Guess who's supply all those toys? If they want to keep playing they have to cooperate.

And you're generalizing the OWS thing as well. Most of the people who participated were not oppressed or arrested.

And most of the people who participated in the Tiananmen Square protests weren't either. Enough were to quell the protest. In both cases. Yes, I know the oppression used to quell the OWS protests didn't rise to anywhere near the level of that used for the Tiananmen Square protests but they didn't need that level crush the OWS protest. And I have little doubt the level of violence and other forms of coercion would have risen to what ever was required to crush the protests.. Peaceful protests like that are supposed to be a Constitutional right in this country.

Cross-bred plants can't be patented?

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111125/09052516897/coming-to-plates-europe-patented-vegetables-produced-conventional-breeding.shtml

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101103/14362311708/ministry-of-sound-ditches-file-sharing-lawsuits-after-it-finds-out-that-bt-actually-protects-user-privacy.shtml

Turns out they didn't have standing to sue for the actual music as they were basically DJ mixtapes which they had licensed the music for, so they where suing over the copyright of the tracklistings..

Here's a good example of this very thing: http://www.techdirt.com/blog/startups/articles/20130228/00041522145/kickstarter-projects-that-dont-meet-their-goal-are-not-failures-they-help-people-avoid-failures.shtml

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by EmperorArthur (1113223: Here's another one.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130829/16135324356/court-says-feds-dont-have-to-reveal-secret-evidence-it-gathered-against-terror-suspect-using-fisa.shtml ,

That's just stupid if this isn't entrapment he needs another lawyer. Like saying your horny, when someone shows you a dark alley and a girl then arrest you for rape. Given he was a time bomb, and just looking for a chance; but to fabricate one is a make believe crime.
Bottom line of link:

And, on top of that, the court has now sanctified this whole practice of abusing surveillance to spy on people, and then laundering the evidence so no one can challenge it. This is terrible, and hopefully an appeal on this particular issue is forthcoming."

You haven't been keeping up with all the news have you. It's understandable, considering how much is out there.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130805/10035024070/dea-not-only-gets-intelligence-data-then-is-instructed-to-cover-up-where-it-gets-info.shtml

Short summary: The NSA gives DEA agents "anonymous tips" on which vehicles to "randomly" stop. This is never mentioned in court.

Here's another one.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130829/16135324356/court-says-feds-dont-have-to-reveal-secret-evidence-it-gathered-against-terror-suspect-using-fisa.shtml

This time it's the courts saying that they don't have to show the evidence to the defendant or his lawyers. Not exactly the justice they taught in high school civics.

You haven't been keeping up with all the news have you. It's understandable, considering how much is out there.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130805/10035024070/dea-not-only-gets-intelligence-data-then-is-instructed-to-cover-up-where-it-gets-info.shtml

Short summary: The NSA gives DEA agents "anonymous tips" on which vehicles to "randomly" stop. This is never mentioned in court.

Here's another one.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130829/16135324356/court-says-feds-dont-have-to-reveal-secret-evidence-it-gathered-against-terror-suspect-using-fisa.shtml

This time it's the courts saying that they don't have to show the evidence to the defendant or his lawyers. Not exactly the justice they taught in high school civics.

They're saying he may have logged in as another official?

that's not impersonating them. Then again, it's a distraction from http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130829/10405424350/latest-snowden-leaks-detail-black-budget-how-much-govt-wastes-useless-surveillance.shtml , so go figure.

Even the quotes are going for low hanging fruit:

"The damage, on a scale of 1 to 10, is a 12,” said a former intelligence official"

So on a scale of 1 to 10, the answer is "we can't even do math without sensationalizing it"? /facepalm

And you are looking at the 2012 version that lacks the examples and explanations. It isn't a new invention if it is just software -- it must be part of a greater whole, such as an embedded device.

But why take my word for it?

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130509/09013323019/new-zealand-bans-software-patents-as-such-tries-to-pin-down-what-earth-that-means.shtml

Re like castles?
A US castle would offer great views, be built on time, have the newest in military thinking and great comforts.
Overtime royalty would find that every opulent room has hidden passageways allowing observation and eavesdropping.
Yet people are not moving away from the US based clouds?
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130815/10310724188/no-there-hasnt-been-big-shift-away-us-datacenters-yet.shtml

I know! That's why we never heard of Constitution on Chest Guy, Little White Boy with Terrorist's Name & Friends, Veteran with Too Much Implanted Metal or TSA Pen. Tester Guy. The media just isn't interested in the plight of the white man.

Public domain is not open source, that's not what this article is talking about. And GPL as it is makes no sense to apply to music, because then you have to re-define words like "binary" and "source" for it to even be applicable. In a legal document, which the GPL is, you just don't do that kind of shit. You have to say what you mean, or it's unenforceable. And by the time you re-defined everything, you have re-created Creative Commons in a much more verbose way and deserve to be cock-punched (or kicked in the box if that's your anatomy)

It sounds like the author has not heard of Creative Commons, but there is one mention of it ("bring together the ideas of the Creative Commons and open source to create a new, sustainable future for music"), and the article is licensed as CC. What it actually is, is someone who is unable to write a coherent thesis, mixing terms and concepts that don't make any sense together except metaphorically.

The core of the article seems to be about applying ideas that Glenn Gould put forward in 1966 to today's music. This is already taken care of by CC licensing. Kanye West, Peter Gabriel, Radiohead, and others have already allowed people to do most of this, legally.

The closest to true "open source" is Chapel Club, a band that I've never heard about and don't really care to after reading that article.

That was Nov. 2012, pretty much a year ago now. Kanye was in 2008. The example given is Open Goldberg Variations, which is Creative Commons licensed, which is different from open source (conceptually the same but the terms are different). Apparently some or all of it is now Commons Zero, basically public domain. So if there is already a name for this, and a license permitting it, what is the point of this article?

Can there be open source music? Let's all just say no, it doesn't make sense to stretch the idea of "source code" which, thanks to court cases like the SCO debacle, already have a well defined meaning (legally I mean).

Seems it is not legally safe to shut down after all. The police intend to compel your assistance. Anyone surprised?

You act like every cop in the world needs to be monitored so they don't do bad things. How often do you actually hear about a police officer in America doing something wrong on national tv? Very rarely, even locally I barely ever hear about that. So yeah, there a couple bad cops, but what about the other 934,976 cops that never get in trouble or do bad stuff?

Considering locations where they've equipped their cops with body cameras have seen as much as an 88% drop in excessive use of force complaints you might want to rethink those numbers. And in that case only half the officers were wearing the cameras.

"Wrong" is a relative term. I'm betting a great many cops do "wrong" things all the time and it doesn't get reported on the news. When the actions are being recorded all parties involved are much more likely to keep things civil. It means cops have to actually do what they're supposed to in de-escalating confrontations rather than instigating them.

• 2 Senators on the intelligence committee said the violations revealed in the Post article were just the âoetip of the icebergâ

• Glenn Greenwald notes: âoeOne key to the WashPost story: the reports are internal, NSA audits, which means high likelihood of both under-counting & white-washingâ.(Even so, the White House tried to do damage control by retroactively changing on-the-record quotes)

• The government is spying on essentially everything we do. It is not just âoemetadataâ ⦠although that is enough to destroy your privacy

• The government has adopted a secret interpretation of the Patriot Act which allows it to pretend that âoeeverythingâ is relevant ⦠so it spies on everyone

• NSA whistleblowers say that the NSA collects all of our conversations word-for-word

• Itâ(TM)s not just the NSA ⦠Many other agencies, like the FBI and IRS â" concerned only with domestic issues â" spy on Americans as well

• The information gained through spying is shared with federal, state and local agencies, and they are using that information to prosecute petty crimes such as drugs and taxes. The agencies are instructed to intentionally âoelaunderâ the information gained through spying, i.e. to pretend that they got the information in a more legitimate way ⦠and to hide that from defense attorneys and judges

• 2 Senators on the intelligence committee said the violations revealed in the Post article were just the âoetip of the icebergâ

• Glenn Greenwald notes: âoeOne key to the WashPost story: the reports are internal, NSA audits, which means high likelihood of both under-counting & white-washingâ.(Even so, the White House tried to do damage control by retroactively changing on-the-record quotes)

• The government is spying on essentially everything we do. It is not just âoemetadataâ ⦠although that is enough to destroy your privacy

• The government has adopted a secret interpretation of the Patriot Act which allows it to pretend that âoeeverythingâ is relevant ⦠so it spies on everyone

• NSA whistleblowers say that the NSA collects all of our conversations word-for-word

• Itâ(TM)s not just the NSA ⦠Many other agencies, like the FBI and IRS â" concerned only with domestic issues â" spy on Americans as well

• The information gained through spying is shared with federal, state and local agencies, and they are using that information to prosecute petty crimes such as drugs and taxes. The agencies are instructed to intentionally âoelaunderâ the information gained through spying, i.e. to pretend that they got the information in a more legitimate way ⦠and to hide that from defense attorneys and judges

• 2 Senators on the intelligence committee said the violations revealed in the Post article were just the âoetip of the icebergâ

• Glenn Greenwald notes: âoeOne key to the WashPost story: the reports are internal, NSA audits, which means high likelihood of both under-counting & white-washingâ.(Even so, the White House tried to do damage control by retroactively changing on-the-record quotes)

• The government is spying on essentially everything we do. It is not just âoemetadataâ ⦠although that is enough to destroy your privacy

• The government has adopted a secret interpretation of the Patriot Act which allows it to pretend that âoeeverythingâ is relevant ⦠so it spies on everyone

• NSA whistleblowers say that the NSA collects all of our conversations word-for-word

• Itâ(TM)s not just the NSA ⦠Many other agencies, like the FBI and IRS â" concerned only with domestic issues â" spy on Americans as well

• The information gained through spying is shared with federal, state and local agencies, and they are using that information to prosecute petty crimes such as drugs and taxes. The agencies are instructed to intentionally âoelaunderâ the information gained through spying, i.e. to pretend that they got the information in a more legitimate way ⦠and to hide that from defense attorneys and judges

The only important question at this point is 'who is actually in charge of this situation'?

Note these...

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130816/01174524199/simple-question-how-could-president-obama-not-know-that-inspector-generals-report-proving-him-liar-was-leaked-as-well.shtml

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130816/02462124204/how-could-dianne-feinstein-not-have-seen-report-laying-out-nsa-abuses.shtml

Both Obama and Feinstein are making themselves look STUPID, and that's not something politicians ever willingly elect to do. Now it is certainly possible that the press is capable of outmaneuvering politicians, but odds alone would dictate a different result eventually. But at every step along this garden path the figureheads have done and said the exact opposite thing as they should be doing or saying.

It's as if this is scripted. That worries me.

The only important question at this point is 'who is actually in charge of this situation'?

Note these...

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130816/01174524199/simple-question-how-could-president-obama-not-know-that-inspector-generals-report-proving-him-liar-was-leaked-as-well.shtml

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130816/02462124204/how-could-dianne-feinstein-not-have-seen-report-laying-out-nsa-abuses.shtml

Both Obama and Feinstein are making themselves look STUPID, and that's not something politicians ever willingly elect to do. Now it is certainly possible that the press is capable of outmaneuvering politicians, but odds alone would dictate a different result eventually. But at every step along this garden path the figureheads have done and said the exact opposite thing as they should be doing or saying.

It's as if this is scripted. That worries me.