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Good old Nokia....

so this is their "Plan B": become a patent troll.

Good move Nokia.

In Angry Bird-like industries, where they have an actual monopoly on that game and a virtual monopoly on games of similar ilk, the slowness is actually legislated in. Essentially, anywhere there are patents and copyrights slowness tends to be institutionalized.

Some of this is by design. Creators should be able to profit from their work for a while, which is why we have patent / copyright laws.

So there is no capability for the market to operate in these areas, as society has already decided that it should not. In infrastructure heavy sectors, the barriers are natural, in IP heavy sectors barriers are largely legal.

So there will be no end-user price reduction. (Hell, its free on Android, so unless you expect to be paid to download it, it can't get much cheaper).

This move to Ireland is strictly a tax avoidance move by the owners, and will help their Yacht fund. Further, its probably a bluff, trying to secure some tax breaks from Finland, because you don't uproot 400 people (or even the 100 people you really want to keep) just to avoid some taxes.

Figures for Rovio total revenue suggest about $95 million in total revenue (2011). After paying wages and plant costs, their earnings (before taxes) was $58.7 dollars, which suggests they are banking 65% of their total intake.

Paying 12% Ireland tax rates will save them around 7 Million bucks per year in taxes over the Finland rate.

Since you could probably move the company lock stock and server farm for $7Mil, the multi-year payout would be significant, but not earth shattering.
Angry Birds has about run its course, and unless they have a stable of additional games in the pipe-line there may not be any long term advantage in moving.

Ta-hoochapie!

Microsoft currently doesn't make money on anything but Windows and Office -- everything else is either runs at loss, or has so much money sunk in it while it was being developed or ran at loss, it will take significant amount of time to turn profit.

Citation? Exchange - for example - would appear to be a very profitable product, XBox has been hugely profitable for the last 5 years

MSFT operating profit by division. Xbox comes under "Entertainment and Devices", a division that has historically been a loss leader. The vast bulk of the profit is from Windows + Office + Windows Server. Basically Microsoft's profits as a whole are largely dependent on sales of Windows and Office: profits jump 31% on strong Office sales, profits stagnate as Windows sales fall.

Because the real issue is not packets but concurrent bandwidth.

But that problem has been solved already, time and time again.

Off peak electricity can be had cheaper than peak, with a different meter.
Off peak phone calls essentially become free (nights and weekends).
Off peak express/toll lane use is cheaper than peak use.

Demand period billing is easily managed in an industry where you know precisely the time of day that every packet transited the wire.

The problem comes in the uncertainty of the bill at the end of the month. People can budget their $30 bucks or $60 bucks, but how do you budget demand period adjusted usage? Yes, newer phones these days have the ability to keep track of this usage built right in, but the risk of a few dollars overage charge is deterring people from using their phones the way they want.

The whole concept of the need for demand period based billing and data caps is, I suspect, pretty much of a fraud. The carriers aren't even deploying all of the bandwidth they licensed, and regardless of Verizon's protestations to the contrary, they are simply hording it to justify high prices. I suspect that a complete analysis would show that there is plenty of bandwidth even for peak periods, and it is being artificially constrained.

We went through all of this before with the telephone companies. Its not exactly like they have been playing straight with us up to this point. Its the same game they played on us with "scarcity of long distance circuits". Now I don't know a single person that pays long distance charges. Its free with your basic phone service in most places.

MSFT profits came from 100% Windows & Office

And what is that figure today? 95%? I would lump "Server and Tools" in with Windows, but even if you account for it separately, MS still generates more than 90% of its profit from Windows and Office. That is why investors are restless - after many years and $ billions spent, Online Services are still in the red, and Entertainment & Devices is barely profitable. Microsoft has shown to be thoroughly incapable of diversification - the vast bulk of profit still comes from exactly the same sources as a decade ago, and the success or failure of these sources dominates overall profits: Microsoft profits jump 31% on strong Office sales Microsoft profits stagnate as Windows sales fall. With increasing use of mobile devices, and online competition (Google Apps for Business), the Windows+Office monopoly is looking shakier than ever before.

The product is called Apple TV. Not iTV.

What the is new product is going to be called is anyones guess.

It is just a rumour though, so is this other story.

http://www.techradar.com/news/computing/apple/apple-in-talks-to-buy-tv-manufacturer-loewe-1080128

Both contradictory rumours

Google much?

http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/best-free-microsoft-downloads.htm

http://www.techradar.com/news/software/applications/60-best-free-pc-software-downloads-from-microsoft-914749

http://blakehandler.wordpress.com/2006/08/01/ultimate-list-of-free-windows-xp-software-resources-from-microsoft/

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/results.aspx?freetext=free&displaylang=en&pf=true

Most profitable company
Record iPad sales.
Record iPhone sales.

Apple takes 52% of all smartphone profits
Apple takes 66% of all smartphone profits
Apple takes 75% of all smartphone profits

How long before they are at 100%?

LG Posts net loss
Motorola Mobility net loss
Sony Ericsson net loss

What do you think will happen to android market share when every company stops making them because they went out of business?

It was TechRadar.

I subscribe to PCFormat. It's interesting because of all the hardware tests and weird little side projects that appear from time to time. Also, Ask Luis is really funny.

We'll see once K800 comes out - which should be soon enough.

Profitable for the user? Is that a feature?

iOS has been turning developers into millionaires since 2009

And who can forget Angry Birds got their start on iOS?

Since this is /. becoming a millionaire developer is definitely a feature.

Here's the cause of the short term rise in prices. I don't think that this will have a lasting effect. There is a worldwide shortage of HDDs right now due to manufacturing plants closing. See http://www.techradar.com/news/computing-components/storage/hard-drive-shortage-pushes-prices-up-150-1044021 If these plants aren't able to be reopened, they will just find new plants to use. I need to replace a 1tb drive for my NAS, and have a receipt for the original at $69.99 and the same drive is now $139.99. I'm going to hold off until after the shortage passes.

or there's the Samsung Galaxy Note that is basically an oversized Galaxy S2, but comes with a stylus.

Look around - it's been mentioned elsewhere. One retailer reported 20% ... and at that point, not all returns had come back ... and it doesn't include people who were upgraded for a fee to XP to resolve their complaints (and if you check around, many users did the upgrade themselves rather than fight with the vendor).

This was happening at the same time as Ubuntu was falsely claiming that return rates were in line with netbooks with XP installed.

As for overall netbook returns, they ARE high. People get disappointed, realize that for $100 or so more they can get a real laptop, and bring it back within the 2 week return period. Or they figure it's not worth the hassle, and "gift" the netbook to someone in the family. It's one reason why the netbook market started its' collapse - prices of laptops dropped by more than half in just a couple of years. Now it continues to collapse because tablets and smartphones are much more capable than a crapbook.

Why is it anti-Android sentiments are assumed to be the product of Microsoft?

You notice nobody at Slashdot is discussing the OS itself?

Despite other commentators recognizing that a new release of the most popular smartphone OS in the world is a big event, and that the new version is a significant improvement, all the discussion here is about what Microsoft has said about it, or more lame versions of the long-running trolling over source code.

Meanwhile, this is what the real world is saying:

"Android ICS offers a massive array of improvements over its predecessors bringing the best of both Gingerbread and Honeycomb while providing a raft of new innovations."

http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-everything-you-need-to-know-954464

The only reason Android is the fastest selling [i]phone[/i] OS (if you count tablets iOS is still on top), is because there are more manufacturers of Android phones than iPhones. As for people switching from the iPhone 3GS to Android, from what I've read there are just as many people switching from Android to the iPhone 4. People with AT&T are switching to Android and people with Verizon are switching to the iPhone (grass is always greener I guess).

Then there's this:
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/survey-over-half-of-phone-buyers-already-want-iphone-5-984013

It will be interesting to see if Google allow the iPhone5 to launch. Clearly, when the situation is reversed, the whole product is banned, but as we all know Google do no evil. Or is evil justified when it's the only way of dealing with the evil being done by another?

I've got a stylus for my iPad. I'm not saying it's perfect, but it makes handwriting possible and drawing practical.

No one has come up with hardware better than last year's iPhone? You might want to check your facts on that one. It took me all of five seconds to google a phone with superior hardware specs.

Really? Try switching where your window controls are located. I'll wait until you get back.

That didn't take long...

== so they get essentially steer the priorities of the entire market.

yup, that was the general point I was making. JS, standards, html5 are just specific examples of the more general strategy.

== With Android, again the point is not the app sales, otherwise Amazon would be banned from Android market once they made their store.

You are right about the general point; Android is about making sure that other folks don't get to take over the mobile internet. However I think google realise that apps are important as the key differentiator of the platform. In order to get great apps, google need to make it so that developers can make money. Google have explicitly recognised this:
http://www.techradar.com/news/software/applications/google-disappointed-with-android-app-sales-923912

I mean the pandora is horribly, horribly expensive. 500 dollars just to have four knobs, a keyboard, and a machine that does nothing but play games ? ( no wonder they don't show the price on the homepage )

I'd rather have an Xperia Play. It's cheaper (not a lot, though), better games, it plays PSX and N64 ! Plays legacy games and emulators just fine, and it's also a phone, so you always have it on you. To idiots (say, your boss) it looks like a phone and thus can be brought anywhere without people getting their knickers in a twist.

It has cheap (or even free) emulators for everything including the old sierra games (discworld on android ! Hurray !), ... even dosbox !

The coolest thing about this presentation came right after the stuff about accessories (Video). Google claims that they have "designed an open, wireless protocol" for devices that don't speak WiFi or Bluetooth. This is supposed to enable "very low cost connectivity with anything that's electrical in your home".

A little more detail: link. Seems that it's low speed, which is okay, and that they're using the 900 MHz band which means that sadly it's not going to be for Europe.

The is exactly the point I was trying to make.

Random guy X tries a cheap android phone. It has a crappy interface, crappy build quality, crappy feature set, etc.

Then he comes to an on-line forum and says "I'm never buying android again"!

In this case, nevermind that the HTC Desire sits at the top of some Top mobile phone lists ( http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/20-best-mobile-phones-in-the-world-today-645440?artc_pg=21 ). It was doing what the iPhone now does, out of the box, 3 months before the iPhone 4 was announced.

Since someone had a bad experience 4 years ago with HTC, they're never buying it again.

The real reason the BBC is cutting back on its online presence is hidden pressure from the commercial sector who have always seen it as a threat to their revenue. "News Corporation's James Murdoch has said that a "dominant" BBC threatens independent journalism in the UK". Of course we all know what kind of 'independent' journalism he really means. One where some Australian pornographer decides who gets to be president or Primeminister.

"James Murdoch, son of Rupert and the man in charge of BSkyB has criticised the BBC iPlayer, insisting that the popular online VOD service is squashing competition" link

Back in as early as '09, Google was stating that ChromeOS was not intended for tablet or solely-touchscreen devices; Only netbooks and other small laptops.
  - http://www.techradar.com/news/computing/google-not-focused-on-touchscreens-for-chrome-os-652656

The Director Engineering said as much to TechRadar two weeks ago, so I'm surprised this is news. http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/honeycomb-may-never-come-to-mobiles-922897 So Phones = 2.X, Tablets = 3.X, until Google reunite the number systems. According to the Dev blog post today, they're creating a Fragments API static library for use with phones going down to 1.6. http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/02/android-30-fragments-api.html so universal apps for tablets and phones can be coded.

The response rate for spam is very low (1 in 12.5 million according to http://www.techradar.com/news/computing/spammers-get-1-response-to-12-500-000-emails-483381?src=rss&attr=all), so a spammer would have to pay 12.5M / 1K * $0.10 = $1,250 to get a response by paying Amazon to send emails. Multiple responses will be required to make a sale. If they can't make $1,250 of profit per response, they can't make money by using Amazon to send their spam.

Actually, that would be the business doing the spamming.

Amazon in this case is doing what spammers do - sells email services on a per-email basis. Most spammers get payment to spam N million people, and they don't really care if 99.9999% of them are filtered out by the time it's received - they've gotten their $100 or whatever they've charged. It's the business wanting the spamming service that has to make up the $100 on the remaining few.

That's why spammers make so much money - they just have to send email and not guarantee results. And the business that paid $100 to get $12 worth of business? Well, he may never hire a spammer again, but there's another business "genius" wanting marketing services at his door.

It's also why most spam is virus laden crap - that's far more profitable than trying to sell product.

The response rate for spam is very low (1 in 12.5 million according to http://www.techradar.com/news/computing/spammers-get-1-response-to-12-500-000-emails-483381?src=rss&attr=all), so a spammer would have to pay 12.5M / 1K * $0.10 = $1,250 to get a response by paying Amazon to send emails. Multiple responses will be required to make a sale. If they can't make $1,250 of profit per response, they can't make money by using Amazon to send their spam.

Actually, 3D may actually have something to offer...
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-12-14-killzone-3-split-screen-co-op-confirmed

With 3D, since they have to double the graphics output, it makes local co-op easier to do. It won't be co-op in 3D, but hey.

There was also a method patented a while ago for local co-op using 3D glasses a while back as well...
http://www.techradar.com/news/television/sony-uses-3d-trick-to-split-screen-for-multiple-viewers-704298

Nice to see a throughly researched article :/

Looks like co-op might actually be making a come back :)

Google does not vet applications.

I never meant to imply that. Google vets devices. I haven't seen a single Android device that 1. has a size and price similar to that of Apple's iPod touch (like Archos 43) and 2. comes with the Android Market application (unlike Archos 43). See this article citing this article, in which a Google representative claims that Android Market isn't ready for tablets.

Powered by a nVidia Tegra 2 processor and a special version of Android.

However, reviews haven't been kind on it:
http://www.reghardware.com/2010/11/03/review_netbook_toshiba_ac100/
10/100
"The beautifully designed and executed hardware is very close to my ideal netbook, and it's hardly an exaggeration to say that I'm heart-broken by Toshiba's cocked-up Android implementation. The best one can hope for is a firmware rescue from the open source community, although I wonder if the product will stay around long enough in these tablet-obsessed times for that to happen."

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/laptops-portable-pcs/laptops-and-netbooks/toshiba-ac100-721195/review?artc_pg=4
2.5/5
Verdict
"If you want a device for carrying the web around with you, and you don't want a tablet and can't be bothered with a Windows 7 powered netbok, then the AC100 may be for you.
There's no denying it works and that you can browse the internet on it, but it's how it goes about doing this that most disappoints.
Especially as the AC100 could have been great, it still has lots going for it – the most crucial being excellent portability.
For us, however, the poor implementation of Android 2.1 remains a deal breaker."

Official word from Wikileaks:

We neither condemn nor applaud DDoS attacks

From this website: wikileaks-we-neither-condemn-nor-applaud-ddos-attacks

So it's sort of like I thought. An apparently unrelated group conducting attacks.

The problem with your argument is that you fail to address the differences between film, music, and print media.

All the differences are meaningless when it comes to copyright.

You also fail to address the problem with royalties and when artists/authors actually get paid for their works over time.

That's a contractual problem between artists and publishers.

The issue that I see is that most people look at the music industry and how bad that industry is as their reason to dislike copyright.

No, most people dislike the current state of copyright law, not copyright itself (although there are some who want to abolish copyright completely). It's way too long; art comes from previous art, just as science and tech come from previous science and tech. Like the scientist, the artist stands on the shoulders of giants.

This means that those who own the copyright, the recording labels get the money for the terms of copyright, and all of those sales on iTunes do not benefit the artist.

You don't own a copyright, you hold a copyright. That's not pedantry, the difference is important. Disney doesn't own Steamboat Willie, they hold a "limited time" monopoly.

Most people don't have a problem with the idea of stealing from record labels

File sharing isn't "stealing", it's copyright infringement. Again, that loaded language is disingenuous. If I make copies of DVDs and sell them, then yes, I am stealing. The money I make selling the DVDs rightfully belongs to the movie studio. But if I give a copy away, nobody has lost anything. The fact is, piracy increases sales.

Considering the cost of a movie tends to be the same as a music CD, most people should see why the MPAA really does have a fair argument since a movie that does not do well at the box office will often LOSE money for the movie studio.

If Ford starts making crappy cars, you think they have a right to profit from crap? Crappy movies do crap at the box office because they're crap.

If an author releasing a great "best selling" book, it is very possible that will be the only book that author will write.

That's one thing that's wrong with current copyright lengths. Copyright is supposed to encourage artists to produce more art. If I write a book that earns me a million dollars a year for the rest of my life, what's my incentive to write another one?

And the fact is, most writers that only write one book aren't really very good writers, and don't write more because the book doesn't sell. You'd be hard pressed to name more than a handful of books written by an unknown artists ten years ago that hit the best seller list and the author never wrot another. Isaac Asimov said it himself in the short story "Dreaming is a Private Thing" -- writers write because they have to. They can't stop writing any more than a heroin junkie can stop shooting heroin.

Seriously, if you like something enough to want to download it, doesn't the author deserve money?

You're buying into the fallacy that no one will buy something if they can get it for free, but best selling author Cory Doctorow has proven this wrong. He puts all of his books online, in many formats, for free, and he credits his status as a best seller to that fact. And in fact, there's a copy of "Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom" on my bookshelf because of this. Read this:

The multi-million selling author Paulo Coelho has demonstrated that online book piracy has increased sales of his books in hard copy.

Going back, the only people who really dislike copyright are those who want something for free, or disagree with the prices.

Wrong again. Most who dislike copyright dislike it because in its present form it discourages artistic innovation and creativity.

No smart phone OS would do this unless there was a technical issue underlying it.

That's blatantly false. iOS always supported multitasking, as evidenced by the fact that jailbreakers could enable it. Apple simply *chose* to not allow it for performance reasons.

It certainly isn't for the lame and laughable "it uses too much CPU" excuse which iPhone apologists used to bandy around even when Android disproved that point.

What? Android has proven *exactly* this point. Hell, here's Page on the topic:

I have noticed there are a few people who have phones where there is software running in the background that just sort of exhausts the battery quickly. If you are not getting a day, there is something wrong.

Source.

It certainly isn't for the lame and laughable "it uses too much CPU" excuse which iPhone apologists used to bandy around even when Android disproved that point.

Uh, that's not multitasking, jackass. If the task can't continue to operate in the background because the OS has frozen it, it's single tasking with preemptive task switching.

No, it's clearly some underlying technical deficiency in the runtime.

No, that's not clear at all. But, hey, don't let reason and rationality get in the way of your anti-MS and anti-Apple ranting.

Review is here

And for those who don't want to rtfa, the author did a cost per fps evaluation:
"Somewhat surprisingly, it's the 5850 that trips up being the worst offender here – effectively costing you £5.06 for each frame per second on average across our tests at 1,920 x 1,080.

The new cards, the Radeon 6870 and 6850 meanwhile roll in at £4.35 and £3.86 respectively, which looks pricey compared to the GTX 460's £3.36 per fps."

Personally I was going to hold fire on the purchase of a new machine to see if these cards are worth considering, but I might as well get on with buying it with a GTX 460 configuration.

Granted, they are not phased array so you need to aim them, but flat Ku band satellite antennas have been around for over a decade around here. Here is a random example a quick googling turned up: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio-visual/digital-tv-receivers/sqish-selfsat-h10d-420191/review

/greger

I run Windows 7 on my my new Revo box 64-bit 2core, 4GB, Nvidia, 500GB Hard Drive. Runs so slow. I spent £300 on it because of lies like yours.

Alrighty. I run Windows 7 on my old Dell Inspiron 1520 with 64 bit dual core, 4GB (aftermarket), Nvidia and 120GB Hard Drive. Bought it in Feb 08 with XP on it. This was during the reign of Vista and this was the only laptop Dell still sold with XP on it.

Got hit by a virus (damn AVG Free did not protect me; even though I scanned the suspect file thoroughly before trying to use it. Switched to Avira, we'll see how that does ;D) and had to re-install. I had already tried Win7 during RC and decided it is marginally better than XP, just not better enough to switch unless you're rolling a new OS anyway.. and now I was. So I switched from 32 bit XP to 64 bit 7.

Now it seems to run every bit as fast as XP did, with Aero turned on. It eats more RAM (900MB used at startup instead of 350MB, overhead appears constant after days of uptime) and this is after applying most of Black Viper's recommended service tweaks to both OSen. I find win+tab is handy when you've got a ton of browser windows open (each with tabs; I generally run one window per distinct project) and want to quickly get to one which is visually distinct.

so tuppe, does my counter-example anecdote mean that you're the liar now? Or perhaps we should yeild the predictive power of all of our personal one-off experiences in favor of actual research?

ZDnet's benchmarks maintain that Windows 7 is faster than XP for standard use, although XP remains more capable for devices with limited memory and outdated graphics.

Maximum PC's benchmarks claim that Win7 simply feels faster than XP on the hardware they tested.

Tom's Hardware's netbook benchmarks show that Windows 7 does not beat XP on the netbook but that it is quite responsive, and would probably surpass XP with better driver support.

TechRadar's benchmark includes many plusses and minuses for Windows 7 with a net plus, but clearly states that it provides "better performance than XP can deliver on today's hardware."

I'm not picking up on any benchmarks that have the same trouble you've had, so unfortunately I have no way to confirm you did not just misconfigure your machine.

I think that the tablet is basically just a specialized form of smartphone. These gadgets have been predicted to replace the personal computer, and things are moving in that direction with smartphone GPUs, wireless graphics, etc.

The writing's on the wall: laptops and PCs will be replaced by smartphones (and tablets) as everyday computing devices for most of the public.

"Since when have iPhone been about following the trend?"

True, seems like they've been setting the pace. Touchscreen phones were pretty much non-existent outside of the Palm and a few Windows Mobile 6 phones until the iPhone came out, and even those phones were highly dependent on a stylus, iPhone was the first touchscreen without a stylus. Ever since the original iPhone everyone's been playing catch-up, and while others offer faster cpus and more megapixels, no one offers the 200,000+ apps or the huge fan based and the chance to be a millionaire app developer. In fact some of the largest Android game developers have boycott the Android Market. Do I care if the camera is 3mp or 5mp? No. Do I care if the phone offers the apps I want? Of course, these aren't just phones anymore, they're pocket PCs

Howzat? Apple is offering more competitive terms to publishers

Define competitive. So they don't have to compete by price? Having all books at $10-$15?

Amazon also has a deal where publishers get 70% of the pie. But in that case the price range of the books is set lower.

In any case, this is not a Free market, not as far as the readers are concerned:
http://www.techradar.com/news/portable-devices/other-devices/apple-and-amazon-slammed-for-e-book-pricing-707275?src=rss&attr=all

OpenSUSE supposedly has one of the better implementations of KDE, but I've never tried it so I can't tell you how it works.

If you want the most up to date version and don't mind getting your hands dirty, Arch Linux offers a vanilla KDE experience.

Further Reading: 8 of the best KDE Distributions

the space program

Oh yes. That immediately led to all sorts of space activities by us citizens,

Seriously? I'm just as pissed as the next grounded cowboy, we were promised rocket-ships after all. But the space program has affected us citizens directly and indirectly in profound ways. Here are just a few hits from a quick google search. Enjoy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Race#Legacy

http://www.techradar.com/news/world-of-tech/10-tech-breakthroughs-to-thank-the-space-race-for-617847

http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto/apollo.htm

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/pdf/80660main_ApolloFS.pdf

http://www.marsdaily.com/reports/NASA_Derived_Technology_Captures_Unique_Inaugural_Image_999.html

http://space-exploration.suite101.com/article.cfm/nasa-space-technology-inventions-and-products

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/industry-02f.html

I really don't believe this to be true.

Kinect cannot even tell left from right, would you really trust it with your logons and private data?

http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/hands-on-xbox-project-natal-review-673321

Also, the WHOLE E3 Kinect demo was faked, making the entire industry look like a bunch of clueless chumps..

http://allaboutthegames.co.uk/feature_story.php?headline=E3-2010--Microsoft-Kinect-demonstration--extremely-well-choreographed-but-fake--News&article_id=10726

I really don't think Nokia wants to make an iPhone knockoff. Rather, they wanted protection from the legal threats that Apple had been making over Nokia's touchscreen smartphones.

Non-discrimination aside, wouldn't you want competitor, who continually threatens you and others with litigation, to back down as a condition of licensing terms? I think that's reasonable.

No, it was Apple who picked a fight with Nokia. Nokia simply called their bluff.

I didn't know about the Wikileaks thing, so I went looking and read this. Thanks for that. This is getting worse every time I hear about the filter. I hope that one of the parties goes against this, otherwise I will have to vote greens... the only people opposing this travesty.

"Then they went on to say that the German government had advised against using version 2.6, which was OLD NEWS and anyone with a brain would know this from reading TFA. As I have one, and did, and know this, which are apparently the differences between me and you... LOL!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:34AM (#31706202)

WRONG: That says "later this month" & is a "note" ONLY, you fool... THUS, the article IS ABOUT VERSION 3.6 when it was written, & that it had a serious bug! Hence, why Germany warned about using FF to its people... troll, you're not even GOOD @ trolling.

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"LOL, better than a REAL SECURITY FIRM, I guess? Because that is where I got my source" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:51AM (#31706372)

No, YOUR INFO. IS 2 VERSIONS OF OPERA OLD #1, & #2? Your link above (I went thru your posts here in this exchange) & it was from OPERA, here: http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/865/ when you posted it, here in this exchange -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582488

(Man, YOU CAN'T EVEN GET THAT MUCH RIGHT... lol!)

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"Nice try, apk, really nice try... APF is more like it though, because you really are an APril Fool (all year long! ROFL)." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:51AM (#31706372)

Better than yours, so again: CAN YOU TELL US THE TOPIC OF THIS ARTICLE? Clue - IT'S ABOUT GERMANY WARNING ITS PEOPLES NOT TO USE FIREFOX as they did about IE also

"They did come for Opera; they recommended that people stop using it until this latest version patched the security flaw they found" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378) Journal(1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378) Journal

THE QUOTATION ABOVE IS YOUR OWN WORDS ABOVE STATING THE GERMAN GOV'T. WARNED ITS PEOPLES ABOUT OPERA (which they never did, as they did regarding FF &/or IE, proofs below):

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German government in Firefox warning -> http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/german-government-in-firefox-warning-2107853.html

and

German government warns citizens off IE -> http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/german-government-warns-citizens-off-ie-664181

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SO - once more: Can you show me where German government EVER SAID NOT TO USE OPERA? No, you cannot... even though you said they did (b.s., & this below ALL proves that much easily, with your OWN LYING WORDS no less, easily ("too, Too, TOO EASY" in fact!)).

You'll never find that the germans said "stay away from Opera", EVEN THOUGH YOU SAY GERMAN GOV'T. DID ABOVE (pure b.s. OR a mistake on your part, take your pick) - they have never done so, afaik @ least!

(You're either "thick" in the head, an incorrigible TROLL (this is the case imo), or just well... "less than a 10 below plantlife IQ" bearing individual (& please - listen to Alice in Chains & take their advice and "CHECK YOUR BRAIN", or @ least your inability to read... thank you!))... apk

APK

P.S.=> Your information is also SO STALE (considering you posted a very old bug from OPERA 9.23) & OPERA IS CURRENTLY AT VERSION 10.52.3344 as of today, here -> http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ ... so, so much for "your information being current" (far, Far, FAR FROM IT in fact - what you posted is YEARS OLD on a guess/iirc)... apk

"Then they went on to say that the German government had advised against using version 2.6, which was OLD NEWS and anyone with a brain would know this from reading TFA. As I have one, and did, and know this, which are apparently the differences between me and you... LOL!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:34AM (#31706202)

WRONG: That says "later this month" & is a "note" ONLY, you fool... THUS, the article IS ABOUT VERSION 3.6 when it was written, & that it had a serious bug! Hence, why Germany warned about using FF to its people... troll, you're not even GOOD @ trolling.

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"LOL, better than a REAL SECURITY FIRM, I guess? Because that is where I got my source" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:51AM (#31706372)

No, YOUR INFO. IS 2 VERSIONS OF OPERA OLD #1, & #2? Your link above (I went thru your posts here in this exchange) & it was from OPERA, here: http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/865/ when you posted it, here in this exchange -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582488

(Man, YOU CAN'T EVEN GET THAT MUCH RIGHT... lol!)

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"Nice try, apk, really nice try... APF is more like it though, because you really are an APril Fool (all year long! ROFL)." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:51AM (#31706372)

Better than yours, so again: CAN YOU TELL US THE TOPIC OF THIS ARTICLE? Clue - IT'S ABOUT GERMANY WARNING ITS PEOPLES NOT TO USE FIREFOX as they did about IE also

"They did come for Opera; they recommended that people stop using it until this latest version patched the security flaw they found" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378) Journal(1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378) Journal

THOSE ARE YOUR OWN WORDS ABOVE STATING THE GERMAN GOV'T. WARNED ITS PEOPLES ABOUT OPERA (which they never did, as they did regarding FF &/or IE, proofs below):

---

German government in Firefox warning -> http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/german-government-in-firefox-warning-2107853.html

and

German government warns citizens off IE -> http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/german-government-warns-citizens-off-ie-664181

----

SO - once more: Can you show me where German government EVER SAID NOT TO USE OPERA? No, you cannot... even though you said they did (b.s., & this below ALL proves that much easily, with your OWN LYING WORDS no less, easily ("too, Too, TOO EASY" in fact!)).

You'll never find that the germans said "stay away from Opera", EVEN THOUGH YOU SAY GERMAN GOV'T. DID ABOVE (pure b.s. OR a mistake on your part, take your pick) - they have never done so, afaik @ least!

(You're either "thick" in the head, an incorrigible TROLL (this is the case imo), or just well... "less than a 10 below plantlife IQ" bearing individual (& please - listen to Alice in Chains & take their advice and "CHECK YOUR BRAIN", or @ least your inability to read... thank you!))... apk

APK

P.S.=> Your information is also SO STALE (considering you posted a very old bug from OPERA 9.23) & OPERA IS CURRENTLY AT VERSION 10.52.3344 as of today, here -> http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ ... so, so much for "your information being current" (far, Far, FAR FROM IT in fact - what you posted is YEARS OLD on a guess/iirc)... apk

"Then they went on to say that the German government had advised against using version 2.6, which was OLD NEWS and anyone with a brain would know this from reading TFA. As I have one, and did, and know this, which are apparently the differences between me and you... LOL!by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:34AM (#31706202)

WRONG: That says "later this month" & is a "note" ONLY, you fool... THUS, the article IS ABOUT VERSION 3.6 when it was written, & that it had a serious bug! Hence, why Germany warned about using FF to its people... troll, you're not even GOOD @ trolling.

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"LOL, better than a REAL SECURITY FIRM, I guess? Because that is where I got my source" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:51AM (#31706372)

No, YOUR INFO. IS 2 VERSIONS OF OPERA OLD #1, & #2? Your link above (I went thru your posts here in this exchange) & it was from OPERA, here: http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/865/ when you posted it, here in this exchange -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582488

(Man, YOU CAN'T EVEN GET THAT MUCH RIGHT... lol!)

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"Nice try, apk, really nice try... APF is more like it though, because you really are an APril Fool (all year long! ROFL)." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:51AM (#31706372)

Better than yours, so again: CAN YOU TELL US THE TOPIC OF THIS ARTICLE? Clue - IT'S ABOUT GERMANY WARNING ITS PEOPLES NOT TO USE FIREFOX as they did about IE also

"They did come for Opera; they recommended that people stop using it until this latest version patched the security flaw they found" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378) Journal(1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378) Journal

THOSE ARE YOUR OWN WORDS ABOVE STATING THE GERMAN GOV'T. WARNED ITS PEOPLES ABOUT OPERA (which they never did, as they did regarding FF &/or IE, proofs below):

---

German government in Firefox warning -> http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/german-government-in-firefox-warning-2107853.html

and

German government warns citizens off IE -> http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/german-government-warns-citizens-off-ie-664181

----

SO - once more: Can you show me where German government EVER SAID NOT TO USE OPERA? No, you cannot... even though you said they did (b.s., & this below ALL proves that much easily, with your OWN LYING WORDS no less, easily ("too, Too, TOO EASY" in fact!)).

You'll never find that the germans said "stay away from Opera", EVEN THOUGH YOU SAY GERMAN GOV'T. DID ABOVE (pure b.s. OR a mistake on your part, take your pick) - they have never done so, afaik @ least!

(You're either "thick" in the head, an incorrigible TROLL (this is the case imo), or just well... "less than a 10 below plantlife IQ" bearing individual (& please - listen to Alice in Chains & take their advice and "CHECK YOUR BRAIN", or @ least your inability to read... thank you!))... apk

APK

P.S.=> Your information is also SO STALE (considering you posted a very old bug from OPERA 9.23) & OPERA IS CURRENTLY AT VERSION 10.52.3344 as of today, here -> http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ ... so, so much for "your information being current" (far, Far, FAR FROM IT in fact - what you posted is YEARS OLD on a guess/iirc)... apk