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Umm, you mean it's 2005-10-20?

Everything you know is wrong, and tabbed window managers are teh future!
http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/

Yeah, just watched it and I mostly agree with your review.

I'd gather that DVD version is better visually, I'm not a hifi junkie, but those xvid artifacts were hideous. DVD may also have better resolution to look for those easter eggs (communication system.. ;) and other funnies.

It was so very weird to watch the movie and recognize so many places. B5-alike station features a hall, walkways and auditorium from my school, Tampere University of Technology.

It has its rough edges, but it's funny, even the most basic wooden-leg-jokes (checking malfunctioning blaster..). And damn, it's a full 2 hour movie packed with things like that.

it was "The Ensigns Of Command" google found it here I'm not enough of a geek that I knew it, but it did sound famliar to me as well.

A tangent, I know, but you shouldn't use flags to denote languages. To use the most obvious example, which flag are you going to use for English? The USA flag? Congratulations, you've pissed off all the Brits. The Union Jack? Congratulations, most Americans won't even recognise it, not to mention the fact that's the flag for the UK (it's not the English flag). What about the Canadians? And the Australians?

Jukka Korpela has written an informative article about this.

My officemate literally just purchased Game Development with Lua. It is a neat book.

However, Lua is used for other things, includinge the ion window manager, the SciTE editor, the Elinks text webbrowser and more.

mods are stoned again..
this is what I'm talking about

Yes, finnish and swedish aren't releted in anyway. Estonian on the other hand is closely related to finnish althought we can't understand each other when speking in our native languages, well maybe a few words here and there, and those words might have totally different meaning :).

Finnish is a fenno-ugrig language and swedish is a germanic language, syntax and vocabulary are complitely different. There are few words that are loaned to finnish from swedish, one of them is "kirkko", which is "kyrkan" in swedish and "church" in english. So it might be possible that vittu is loanword from swedish fittan, or counterwise. Or it's just a coincidence.
All and all I don't have bloody clue about the etymology of the word vittu, or fitta for that matter...

More information about the finnish language can be found here, here and profanities are here. That last link is in finnish only and lists some words that are really not a profanities.
Or would you consider something like "gee wiz!" a profanity? :)

ps. What is vittu in estonian?

I've been using ion (http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/) for some time now, it's good enough for me now that it's got floating windows (it's a frame-based design).
Prior to version 2 it was a bit awkward with xmms and gimp.

Ion is a windows manager that allows you to group applications together in their own tab like groups. Or strictly subdivides the desktop into different areas.

Hopefully the way of the future TM.

E is what convinced me to dump Windows too; but ion is what actually enlightened me.

here here.

good luck getting an ion theme for style XP.

a question of "lightweight" vs "heavyweight" window managers can't be answered with themes alone.

We can and we do. It's called XFCE.

Agreed. And Ion and a lot of other innovative window managers/desktop environments. What about Rox?

Plenty of new stuff, in any case compared with MS which has how many new concepts for window managing? 0? I thought so.

Anticipation
Need I say more?

You can try with aide , which is an opensource replacement for Tripwire.

Aide takes a MD5/SHA1 snapshot of your relevant files and store it for later comparison in order to detect modifications.

Also, keep in mind that you should take proper measures to avoid tampering with the aide tool itself (otherwise, it will be useless). For example, you could keep your aide binary, configuration and database files in a read-only media (like a CD/DVD-ROM).

AIDE rocks! It's easy to configure and has great payoff.

Cool solution to dealing with overlapping windows, but why deal with them at all?

I've always thought that overlapping windows caused more trouble than problems they solve. It looked advanced back in the day, and was great with small screens, and sometimes you still want to use it, but I'd find it more useful for typical use if windows diddn't overlap unless you forced them to (by continuing to drag for instance).

Or, coming from the other direction, some wish-list ideas I had while using ion are the ability to detach windows into temporary floating windows, resize neigboring frames by dragging one frame's titlebar, and somehow making it easier to use things like the Gnome panel in ion.

I recommend trying ion and similar window managers like LarsWM and Ratpoison and WMI.

Unfortunately to make window managers truly helpful, they will need to have more information about what its windows *mean* than is currently available from X11. For example, it's error prone trying to deduce whether Window X and Window Y are considered part of the same application by the user. Gnome and KDE do a pretty good job of it (e.g. grouping windows by application in the window list/task bar) but it's not perfect. And this is just the most basic information. Other useful info which could modify window behavior is how often a window is used or updated, when it was run, by what means was it launched (menu, button, terminal?), various categorizations and semantic tagging attached to the application permanently or to the window temporarily, etc.

A great advantage of an X11 system is the flexibility to experiment with the window manager, I hope to see more cool stuff in the future, especially from Gnome, KDE, and the distributions' choices.

The Ion window manager for X is quite fast for keyboard only navagation. It tiles and tabs window. I've never used Expose so I can't say for certain if Ion is faster, but I usually have around 10 apps open and I have no problem getting to the one I want quickly with the keyboard.

i agree with you.

gnome is simply stagnated. no more preferences (i'd like to resize my windows with alt+LMB, please!) and lots and lots of futile memory eating crap.

that's why i use exclusively ion3

The concept of Ion together with cooperative applications would work much better for me.

Okay, that is a problem, say, if you are a Finn and the vovels + k make up 80% of your language."

You're right, so someone created an alternative keyboard optimised for Finnish called the DAS Finnish Improved layout.

http://www.students.tut.fi/~seres/DAS_en.html

(the page is in English, btw)

OTOH, if you're using static binaries, who cares? You're not going to be touching those system level files, and if the user wants to push some programs to ~, go ahead. That's when kernel-space vs. userspace checking comes in, as well as where the setuid and execute permissions take over.

You really need protection at install and at runtime, particularly when install is a system-level task (as it is with practically ANY package management system).

That said, I really do disagree with the original post; I think package management systems have gotten to be very sophisticated, and they implement the Right Way to handle installations. The easy way isn't always the Right Way, as both Windows and OS X have shown. Sure, OS X's method may be simplified for the end user, but to quote a manifesto I believe to be brilliant: "Usability simply does not equal low learning curve, and hiding system details from the user, as the Official Truth seems to be these days."

http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/

Plain text eh?

What endianess is your system? How many bits in a byte? Are you talking EBCDIC, or ASCII? What do you use the 8th bit for, ANSI? A variant of ISO-8859? Windows-1252? Mac Roman? Or something more exotic like KIO8-r, EUC-JP or Shift_JIS? Or do you mean Unicode, in which case do you mean UCS 32 or 16? Or UTF-8 or UTF-7?

In future, I suggest you read at least the first section of http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/chars/, seven times, before you go mouthing off about issues you don't understand .

Does this mean everyone is gonna have to go to UTF-8?

i-DNS uses Punycode to encode the names.

And while UTF-8 could be used to encode Chinese documents, "GB" encoding standards are the preferred way to go. The GB encodings were designed by Chinese people for the purpose of encoding Chinese text efficiently.

GB18030 is the latest revision that I've seen, and it is a beast. A couple of years ago we spent a bunch of time updating our code to ensure support for GB18030 because PRC requires you to support it if you want to sell your software there.

I highly recommend this tutorial on character encoding if you want to learn more about encoding in general. (That tutorial does not focus on CJK encoding specifically, but it is a great primer on encoding in general.)

Also, if you are trying to find good access to localized Chinese information, I strongly recommend learning the language. Any information written in English that you may come across was obviously not intended for a Chinese audience.

Tampere University of Technology (http://www.tut.fi/) has already replaced Digital Alpha unix servers with RHEL, and lots of Solaris workstations have been converted to G3nt00 GNU/Linux.

It's not a programming language.

It's a markup language.

http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/prog.html

You can come even closer.
I use ion on my laptop(s) because it saves me lots of mouse-jockeying.

I also had it on my desktop at my last job for about 1yr. When you're working mostly with terminals it's a real productivity bonus to not have to move/resize them around all the time. - Just split/tile the screen the way you like and it's all there. No browser overlapping your "tail -f" on that logfile yet again...

you're an idiot. narrow space is the name for the unicode character U+202F. Probably, U+205F (Medium Mathematical Space) is what is actually called for, but it wasn't part of the Unicode specification before 4.0.

next time, do your own search for 'unicode spaces' or read http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/chars/spaces.html.

additionally, you have no idea how letters are actually measured. it's not in pixels, inches or hogsheads. the unit is em.

See http://oh3tr.ele.tut.fi/english/modifications.html . They need to be reprogrammed and need some hardware hacks but they work. I have an RD58 moppe on my desk which I use to make contacts through local 70cm repeaters. I'm not sure if that is possible for those proprietary phones.

And for those of us who find mice inconvenient and prefer to use the terminal? What about our 'ease of use'?

I don't give a flying fuck about whether "Aunt Tillie" can use Linux or not. This focus some people have on Linux (or any other OS, frankly) becoming dominant is quixotic and pointless -- Linux cannot really compete with Windows without sacrificing what makes it worthwhile.

That's not quite the same thing.

Sure there is, give them options, and guys who feel this way can use window managers like ION. =)

Also, I really can't use any window manager other than Ion. Most of the time I only use one big window taking all the screen space and use the tabs (well, the keyboard, really) to switch to other windows. This allows the current window to take (almost) all the available screen space and allows me to focus on what I'm doing.

Finally, my life would be very different without GNU Screen. If your work involves using a console (for whatever reason), I strongly advise you to take some time to learn how to use it.

I'll throw in Mutt and Bash as a bonus. Can't live without them.

Oh, in case you're wondering, the platform would be any Unix where those run (usually Debian but I like other distributions and BSDs as well).

I think Ion and screen make a better combination. For some reason, I could not get into ratpoison and screen.

This looks really neat but i assume that its just useless eyecandy. Just like transparent terminals, fading windows etc. If you look for a real window *manager* take a look at ion http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/. Doesn't look as nice but does some work for you instead of just impressing your friends.

Offtopic: Anyone know where the screencap present in this screencap is from? Here

Blackbox is another personal favorite - it's about as lightweight as you can get.

No, ION is as light as you can get (or ratpoison, but let's be realistic and err on the side of usability). Windows ary typically full screen, without borders. Everything is basically in "workspaces", b/w which you switch by alt-1, alt-2 etc. Works like a charm on that server if you still want to use a browser or GUI apps every now and then.

Do yourselves a favor; try ion for 15 minutes and you'll be hooked.

http://personal.inet.fi/koti/eeri/pipari2004/valmi s.jpg

http://www.aurinkokivi.net/muro/pipari/1.jpg

http://bulbasaur.ton.tut.fi/echramath/misc/piparit /ech-bukkake.jpg

http://www.muropaketti.com/pipari2003/ enjoy :)

I picked up some Verbatim discs with a deep blue metallic dye, and the T@2 definitely shows up. It's still completely useless to me, though, since it can't write on the data portion.

The actual drive is one of the best investments I've ever made, though. I've only burnt coasters doing on-the-fly copies from lesser drives.

I've always wished that someone would figure out how to use the DiscT@2 ability for burning pits of arbitrary length and breadth of the CRW-F1 to burn CDVs (CD-sized laserdiscs) -- but even if it's theoretically possible, I doubt it'll ever happen.

No, its written into the HTML code. The author of the website can assign an Alt-letter combination to any link or form item using the ACCESSKEY attribute.

More information here

The syncs are delayed, so I have an overnight sync to a local disk in my main machine, weekly backups offsite, and 4 weekly backups from that to another offsite machine. Thus I have 28 days in which to spot the deleted data and restore from backup (actually, I don't need to spot it manually -- AIDE tells me when a file disappears from my machine). Eventually, I'll get around to implementing a backup strategy using rsync with hard links to do incremental backups, which we do at work. See rsnapshot. But for home use, what I have is more than sufficient.

Take a look at PWM, "the first tabbed windowmanager". It is small and fast. With a simple configuration-file,one can match against the windowname and place windows wherever one wants them. And it supports dockapps :)

Well, I'd like a PPC for the hardware, but I'd get very tired of OS X very quickly. I've borrowed an ibook for one day and that was enough.

Basically, with Debian I can make my machine do whatever I want. In order to use OSX I had to install a third-party virtual desktop manager, which was a bit flaky.

With Debian I'd stick ion2 on and be happy :)

Use Unix Amiga Delitracker Emulator and all your problems are solved =)

So, try each on that 300 MHz 128 MB and see what is best.

If you are into Amiga music, you should check out UADE!! It supports more than 150 exotic formats, and is Open Source =)

...ground-breaking special effects...

(Almost as good as 2001 had, 9 years earlier!)

LD boasts a superior image over DVD

DVD has 500 lines to LD's 420, higher dynamic range, etc. (FAQ) And it's not just the specs: anybody looking at them can typically tell the difference.

If your DVDs don't look as good as LDs, there's something wrong with your DVD player.