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Done.

actually no. AMD will release mantle as a open standard by the end of the year, but currently it isn't finished yet.

Actually yes, they are already working with developers and shipping games so at this stage it is in commercial production but is very much is closed and proprietary not to mention your claim of "by the end of the year" doesn't appear to be substantiated, in fact AMD have been even more vague with: It could be as early as sometime next year or maybe the year after.

releasing standards before they are finished is obviously a bad idea.

What sort of idiocy is that? Publicly releasing the spec for feedback is a good idea, but instead it is being kept closed despite it being in shipping games and drivers.

Although illegal in many countries (but not all), it is satisfying. And free. It doesn't cover everything, but it certainly covers a lot and is expanding from what I can see. I can't help but wonder when TV shows will be added, along with a choice of where to pull the torrents from (it's locked in to YIFY currently though there might be an easy way to change that, I haven't the time).

Although the team that originally started it dropped the project, it was entirely open source so others could (and did) pick up where they left off. They didn't do so due to legal issues (because they checked multiple times to see that what they were doing was indeed legal), but because they didn't want to be in the middle of fighting the paradigm that the film (and other) industries have established.

Here's a link.

The OLPC News website in the past months has build up a reputation for sharply criticizing the $100 laptop project headed up by Nicholas Negroponte .. You can shrug your shoulders and simply ignore the blog, but Christopher Blizzard, one of the OLPC's contributors and an employee for Red Hat, looked a little bit further. It turns out that one of the site's authors works on an Intel project that is competing with the OLPC. Oops." link

Older versions sell for around $170 off-contract.

You can see the Antutu benchmark of the Clovertrail+ Atom chip that is in the process of being launched.
Clovertrail+ gets a benchmark score of 25k. To put this in perspective, Galaxy S3 gets a score of 16k, and a decent mid-level phone like the HTC One S gets a score of 10k, and Tegra3 in the HTC One X gets 14k.

Galaxy S4 might beat the Clovertrail+ (it is supposed to be 28k), but not by much. They are pretty much head to head, and in both cases, you are talking about the latest and greatest from Intel and ARM.

Reference:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fbm1agvXzI
http://www.antutu.com/Ranking.shtml
http://vr-zone.com/articles/antutu-benchmark-indicate-exynos-5-octa-galaxy-s-iv-is-faster-than-qualcomm-600-variant/19612.html

Caveat: This is quite obviously not a comprehensive review done by a website with a solid reputation like Anandtech. Nonetheless, it looks reasonable to me.

This article has screenshots and more details about gameplay.

Yea, looks like Sandy Bridge EX is cancelled:
http://vr-zone.com/articles/ivy-bridge-ep-and-ex-coming-up-in-a-year-s-time--the-multi-socket-platform-heaven/15488.html

Also, this.

Easy to forget when things fall down the memory hole.

Yes, and he asserted it with zero evidence.

I assumed we all remembered the quarterly stories reminding us. I'm at work now so it's hard to the most relevant sites, but here are two links:

http://vr-zone.com/articles/pc-gaming-fastest-growing-platform/16749.html to support the "fastest growing" claim and http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-pc-console-sales-battlefield-3-bf3-pc-gaming,13499.html to compare PC game software sales to the sum of all console sales. It doesn't show PC game sales vs. each individual console, which is related to my claim, but notice that in 2008 PC game software sales were over 50% of the total sales of all consoles combined and since then that fraction has been growing every year.

So to reiterate my initial claim, now with annoyingly indirect but still strong evidence, the PC platform is both (1) the largest and (2) fastest growing and it has been for many years. And to those linking to today's very nice XKCD, claim (1) means that the comic isn't relevant to claim (2). Anyway, pwned.

Will this be their own actual proprietary design, or are they just going to steal (like they usually do) some American company's design and sell it as their own?

Hmmm...you're in for a surprise.

Which architecture?

MIPS in Loongson and Ingeniq, covering all from smartphone to supercomputer; then 'Shenwei' Alpha, mostly for military-linked workstation, servers, supercomputers and such; 'Fengtian' SPARC in the same fields as Alpha; Icube UPU integrated CPU-GPU for mobile and microserver markets, and over a dozen ARM licensees.

If you read further, you'll see all of them are licensed... except for the iCube UPU, which is created by China.

Will this be their own actual proprietary design, or are they just going to steal (like they usually do) some American company's design and sell it as their own?

Hmmm...you're in for a surprise.

Which architecture?

MIPS in Loongson and Ingeniq, covering all from smartphone to supercomputer; then 'Shenwei' Alpha, mostly for military-linked workstation, servers, supercomputers and such; 'Fengtian' SPARC in the same fields as Alpha; Icube UPU integrated CPU-GPU for mobile and microserver markets, and over a dozen ARM licensees.

If you read further, you'll see all of them are licensed... except for the iCube UPU, which is created by China.

A review of UPU

I have been waiting for the ivy bridge to be released in the macbook pro because power draw is huge when on batteries.

But a "tock" which I feel nobody has mentioned and is almost the sole reason why I am patiently waiting for the next MBP is 4K screen resolution. I feel that "retina display" type dpi becomes possible with this feature. The next release of OS X shows development to utilize 4K potential.

Gaming may be poor performance since GPUs may have to get a substantial overhaul and nobody probably has a desktop screen that does 4096x2304 pixels. What it does afford presently is editing 1:1 1080p footage with room for an editing interface.

Or was this removed?? Is this why nobody is talking about it?

http://vr-zone.com/articles/post-idf-bites-ivy-bridge-gpu-to-support-4kx4k-displays-/13584.html

Oh yeah, just about forgot; something else that ivy bridge affords: Thunderbolt, for what it's worth.

Long story short, it's a 5 platter design and generally they've not been good in the past, too many parts to be reliable. The other manufacturers are probably waiting until they can ship a 4x1TB disk instead of 5x800GB. Hitachi is actually shipping 1x1TB disks in the 4K7000.D and 4K5000.B class, but I guess the yield of perfect platters is too low yet.

Yeah... no.

vr-zone

As it stands right now, the prototype version is consuming 2.6W in idle with the target being 2W, while the worst case scenarios are video playback: watching the video at 720p in Adobe Flash format will consume 3.6W, while the target for shipping parts should be 1W less (2.6W)

extremeTech

The final chips, which ship early next year, aim to cut this down to 2W and 2.6W respectively. This is in-line with the latest ARM chips, though again, we’ll need to get our hands on some production silicon to see how Medfield really performs.

And which ARM SoC's idle at 2W? That's at least an order of magnitude greater than any ARM SoC - those typically idle at a few tens or hundreds of milliAmps. ARM's big.LITTLE architectures will bring that down even further.
So, Medfield may be competitive on speed and TDP at full load, but if you are a mobile device maker, would you care? You would probably be more interested in eking out more uptime from your tiny battery.

Yeah... no.

vr-zone

As it stands right now, the prototype version is consuming 2.6W in idle with the target being 2W, while the worst case scenarios are video playback: watching the video at 720p in Adobe Flash format will consume 3.6W, while the target for shipping parts should be 1W less (2.6W)

extremeTech

The final chips, which ship early next year, aim to cut this down to 2W and 2.6W respectively. This is in-line with the latest ARM chips, though again, we’ll need to get our hands on some production silicon to see how Medfield really performs.

Intel will offer Intel-branded cooling solutions for the new chips, they just won't package them with the chips.

^----- This has been confirmed: "Intel has decided to offer own brand coolers for the platform, it's just that they won't come in the box with the CPU."

So Intel will offer coolers, they're just sold separately, probably because these are cpus designed for enthusiast ("The E range (which stands for ‘enthusiast’") so they're meant for people that overclock and buy separate coolers rather than use the "stock" cooler that comes with the cpu.

Pricing of the CPUs has also been released:
_name__core__threads__freq__turbo freq__L3__TDP__price_
Core i7-3820 4 8 3.6 GHz 3.9 GHz 10 MB 130 Watt $294
Core i7-3930K 6 12 3.2 GHz 3.8 GHz 12 MB 130 Watt $583
Core i7-3960X 6 12 3.3 GHz 3.9 GHz 15 MB 130 Watt $999

I'd say the bigger question is: How long will Nvidia be able to stay afloat? First you have the dirty dealing by Intel (why they haven't been busted for antitrust i'll never know, as between AMD and Nvidia they caused billions in damage to the market with their dirty dealing, even worse than MSFT in the 90s IMHO) which slaughtered their Intel chipset division, causing them to go out of business, and now there is Intel licensing PowerVR for Atom which I'm betting will do to ION what cutting off access to the bus did to their Intel desktop sales

And on the other side you have AMD which frankly doesn't need Nvidia as they have excellent Radeon GPUs both discrete and as APUs with the new Bobcat and Bulldozer chips. Nvidia is still trying to make a little money with their desktop chipsets for AMD, but since they aren't making any new ones all they have left is the bottom of the barrel sub $45 market and from what I've seen most AMD guys (myself included) buy the Radeon chips to go with them so not much money on that side of the isle. Finally you have the fact that while Nvidia designs the monster chips first and then figures out ways to cripple them for the smaller markets AMD switched to simply designing for the midrange and using dual GPUs with HT links for the high end which is the obviously cheaper way to go.

So that leaves phones, HPCs, and discrete GPUs, which while decent markets are nothing like the size of the chipset division and as the APUs get better and better OEMs will be less and less likely to use discrete for anything but the gamer laptops, a teeny tiny niche.

Frankly I'll be amazed if Nvidia is around in 5 years, I really will. Personally I think the moves by intel are designed to slowly bleed Nvidia to make a takeover less expensive. Lets face it Intel has always sucked when it comes to GPUs and having Nvidia to integrate the way AMD did with ATI would give them some serious graphical muscle, although again why nobody has screamed antitrust over the way Intel has been behaving I'll never know. but I can't see the markets they are currently in bringing in enough cash to pay for the massive R&D that having to keep up with AMD costs and from the looks of it the new APUs are gonna end up "good enough" for everyone but hardcore gamers further hurting their bottom line.

So frankly I just don't see how discrete chips like TFA are gonna keep them afloat long term. The discrete chips cost money the OEMs don't have to spend with virtually all the chips from Atom on up coming with GPU on chip, those that buy gamer notebooks are a tiny niche of the overall market and with the vast majority of discrete cards going to the sub $150 market, which favors the AMD "build the MOR chips" over the Nvidia "high end first" model I just don't see how they are supposed to survive long term. CUDA is nice but I don't see it being enough to keep them above water, especially if Intel has eyes on buying them out down the road and keeps up their douchebag behavior.

So how many think Nvidia will be here in 5 years, or will they end up a footnote like Voodoo? Which in a twist of irony if it turns out I'm right was bought by Nvidia after being slowly bled to death by changes in the market. While I switched to AMD only for me and my customers after the Bumpgate mess I'd hate to see Nvidia disappear, especially since it would ultimately be over Intel douchebaggery.

http://vr-zone.com/articles/nvidia-to-unlock-sli-for-amd-990-series-chipsets/11778.html

Apparently your problems will be solved in a month or so.

New 6xxx price points. They make the numbers flow from within the 6xxx range. The 5870 is now history. Its all about the 6xxx and how its fps graphs and costs.
If the 5870 is still better in price, frame rate or power use, I am sure it will be noted.
The main thrust seem to be a new mid range (in price) 6xxx should be a bump towards the 5870 stats.
As for the top end, will be fun :) http://vr-zone.com/articles/-rumour-ati-radeon-hd-6000-series-release-schedule-first-iteration-in-october/9688.html has some projections.

Note that everyone is expected to know about the "P55" already. It is assumed that no explanation is needed.

Here is a fairly typical article: Intel P55 Ibex Peak Chipset Features.

Intel marketing words:
Ibex Peak
P55 Express
Lynnfield
Havendale
Penryn
Montevina
Cantiga
Core 2 Duo
Centrino 2

You can mix and match them. For example, this random article I found with a Google search says: 'The processor specifications for the Pioneer DreamBook Style 9008 speak for themselves: "Intel Core 2 Duo Centrino 2 processors (45nm Penryn CPU, Montevina Platform)." '

Maybe they "speak for themselves", but I can't hear them.

I like "Core 2 Duo Centrino 2". Not one, not two, but THREE uses of the concept 2 in five words. Awesome!

Okay, I will try some Intel-speak myself: "Ibex Peak Core 2 Duo Centrino 2 with Lynnfield and Core 2 Quad with Havendale are together known as Summitlake". How did I do? I have no idea.

Does Intel take the position that it doesn't matter how disfunctional Intel marketing is, because you have to buy from them?

Um... don't know where you're getting your info, but my X1200 is in a laptop "designed for" Vista Home Premium (and that means Aero and DX10 I believe) - I promptly installed XP and ordered it with a blank hard drive. It now runs Windows 7 but ATI's fail comes in its lack of stable drivers; this thing has seen more crashes than a racetrack, and it's not Win7's fault.

Also, it was only being developed in late 2006, have a look-see. See where it says that it's "to be named X1200"? How could something be expected to get a name that already existed at that time? Probably launched later in 2007.

Finally, no, this laptop was manufactured in 2008. It wasn't the dealer that warranted it either - it's the manufacturer that I still have a valid warranty with. So, yeah.

You can't gain market share if you can't produce enough chips.

http://forums.vr-zone.com/news-around-the-web/85897-resellers-claim-shortage-athlon-64-x2s.html

http://www.crn.com/white-box/193500828

Intel has also had it's share of shortage problems.

They step themselves up.

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=333348

Read away. I know what stepdown is how it's useful when the load is low to save energy. But these new cores definately step up. A 2.4 ghz chip that auto overclocks to 3.4 ghz? Tell me how that's supposed to work when you overclock the default (2.4ghz) speed.

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=299884

256 bit memory bus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eSwf5LxGAM

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=195427

Using the technology below it shouldn't be too long before we have devices in the 10's of GHz.

http://www.compoundsemi.com/documents/articles/news/8479.html

Toshiba Develops 60 GHz Receiver Made With CMOS Processes

June 18, 2007...Toshiba of Tokyo, Japan, reports that it has developed a new technology to manufacture integrated circuits for the millimeter-waveband. Toshiba says that its new fabrication uses low-cost CMOS processes to produce devices that can achieve high speed, wireless communication in the 60 GHz band. The company points out that at the 60 GHz frequency (which is ten times greater than wireless LAN), communication distances are limited to a few meters, but data can be transferred at a rate of more than a gigabit per second.

Yes, this low-end dual-core is half the price, but not half the performance. Therefor a real bargain.

Note that 9 days ago, the Athlon 64 X2 4000+ was about $100 before AMD's July 9 price cut to $73 (AMD list price).

Tom's Hardware shows the Pentium Dual-Core 2160 outperforming an Athlon 64 X2 4000+ in open-source audio/video encoders and Photoshop. I'd like to find better performance comparisons between these two CPUs, but most of the good sites seem to ignore the Pentium E21xx series in favor of the Core 2 Duo E4xxx series (Allendale, 2MB L2 cache).

There's a planned price cut for Intel on July 22nd. http://www.vr-zone.com/index.php?i=4976

Q6600 2.4 1066 $530 $266
E6850 3.0 1333 - $266
E6750 2.66 1333 - $183
E6550 2.33 1333 - $163
E6540 2.33 1333 - $163

The quad core (Q6600) is getting a ~50% price cut.

While you're all busy previewing some boring bits and doodads which fit into computers, VR-Zone is previewing the babes.

Get your priorities right /.

Actually both Asus and Gigabyte are shipping boards built using engineering samples (!!!). This is visible in the VR-Zone and OCWorkbench reviews, with the chips marked "Secret" "ES". This is a very dubious way to build a retail product.

VR-Zone had theirs up at 3:51am EST

VR-Zone's X2900XT Pre/Review

Oh, they aren't slashdotted either, but have been getting hit hard from hardware junkies.

Also slow, but at least working http://www.vr-zone.com/print.php?i=4946

It is slightly off tradition that the GPU company's flagship product sails off not to meet the flagship of it's competitor, but one target lower. Then again, the lower we go down the price pyramid, the bigger the audience, more people with the budget to spend. I'd say that there is no clear winner between the 8800 GTS and X2900XT, the GTS displayed more consistent performance behavior while the X2900XT fluctuates around due to the in-matured driver. I would say that despite the heat thrown out by the GPU, the X2900XT overclocks better than the 8800GTS by 8-10%, but that's putting out a lot more heat and drawing more power than it already consumes. So this is something potential XT buyers should take note of, the heat produced by the card is no small amount, nor is the power consumed by it - more than 60w over the GTS. What you would be investing in is a higher potential of upcoming performance boosts (including the latest pre-Alpha 8.37.4.2_47323 Catalyst just released 3 days before this review) and full HDCP support with integrated audio controller. And of course the new programmable Tessellation technology which we will probably not see support in games until much later.

Not the fastest video card in the market for sure, but definitely holds it's own at it's current price-point. We only hope that supply will be adequate and not lead to an indirect increase in prices due to short supply. We hope to see some interesting implementations from various card partners as well, be it overclocked specifications, or improved coolers.

• Better overclocking by 8-10%
• Potential performance improvement in future drivers
• Full HDCP support with integrated audio
• New programmable Tessellation technology

• More consistent performance due to more mature driver
• Runs cooler
• Requires far less power (about 60 W less)

It is slightly off tradition that the GPU company's flagship product sails off not to meet the flagship of it's competitor, but one target lower. Then again, the lower we go down the price pyramid, the bigger the audience, more people with the budget to spend. I'd say that there is no clear winner between the 8800 GTS and X2900XT, the GTS displayed more consistent performance behavior while the X2900XT fluctuates around due to the in-matured driver. I would say that despite the heat thrown out by the GPU, the X2900XT overclocks better than the 8800GTS by 8-10%, but that's putting out a lot more heat and drawing more power than it already consumes. So this is something potential XT buyers should take note of, the heat produced by the card is no small amount, nor is the power consumed by it - more than 60w over the GTS. What you would be investing in is a higher potential of upcoming performance boosts (including the latest pre-Alpha 8.37.4.2_47323 Catalyst just released 3 days before this review) and full HDCP support with integrated audio controller. And of course the new programmable Tessellation technology which we will probably not see support in games until much later.

Not the fastest video card in the market for sure, but definitely holds it's own at it's current price-point. We only hope that supply will be adequate and not lead to an indirect increase in prices due to short supply. We hope to see some interesting implementations from various card partners as well, be it overclocked specifications, or improved coolers.

• Better overclocking by 8-10%
• Potential performance improvement in future drivers
• Full HDCP support with integrated audio
• New programmable Tessellation technology

• More consistent performance due to more mature driver
• Runs cooler
• Requires far less power (about 60 W less)

Enjoy:

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4946&s=1

VR-Zone, for example: http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4946&s=1

High end GPUs by themselves are gigantic. There's no way they'd be able to put a top fo the line GPU and CPU on the same die. They even said it isn't going to be for high end graphics in this slide.

I find it hard to accept the fact that the 7600GT got the spot for $175 with no mention of the 6800GS (and don't give me any talk about "obsolete" when the 6600 is in there). The 6800GS spanks the 7600GT to the tune of a 256bit bus throwing 32GB/s versus 128bit bus pushing 22.4GB/s.
See here...
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?p=2400829

If somebody could tell me why the 7600GT is more deserving, I'd like to hear it... and yes, I'll take the card that's a bit more power hungry for almost a 30% increase in performance any day.

In conjunction with this, nVidia are also today releasing their new Series 90 of drivers for Windows, the biggest visible change is a new configuration panel interface.

More reviews here and here.

this is SO lastyear for /.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/09/07/can_gigabyt e/page8.html
look at 2 cards in raid0

the I-RAM2 is gonna come out Q1 2006, 300 G/ps sata, stick in a 5.25 drive bay,perhaps with external power, 8 slots and ddr2.

http://vr-zone.com/?i=3052
(the good stuff so we do not crash the vr-zone server)
Gigabyte for the first time has unveiled the specifications of their upcoming i-RAM 2 during HKEPC Tech-day. The i-RAM 2 will be using DDR2 memories instead of DDR1 and the data transfer interface is SATA 3Gb/s double of the current SATA 1.5 Gb/s. It will be externally housed with by means of an external case or fitted into the 5.25" bay with eSATA interfaces. The number of memory slots are expected to double to 8 and you can have up to 16GB max memory. The expected announcement of i-RAM 2 is targeted for February next year.

http://www.cluboverclocker.com/reviews/hard_drives /RAM_Drive/Gigabyte/I-RAM/index.htm
review of I-RAM1

so assuming that I-RAM2 scales as well as I-RAM1,2 of these should get 500 G/sec or so.not bad for a 64gb drive.

now WHY are people doing this, and not just adding memory?well, assuming i have a nifty MB such as
http://www.iwill.net/product_2.asp?p_id=102

i can have up to 32 gb of memory on the MB if we look at the o/s selection guide for windows...

32-bit 64-bit
XP Pro 4 GB / 1-2 CPUs 128 GB / 1-2 CPUs

2003, Standard 4 GB / 1-4 CPUs 32 GB / 1-4 CPUs
2003, Enterprise 32 GB / 1-8 CPUs 1 terabyte / 1-8 CPUs
2003 SP1, Ent 64 GB / 1-8 CPUs 1 terabyte / 1-8 CPUs

2003, Datacenter 64 GB / 1-32 CPUs 1 terabyte / 1-64 CPUs
2003 SP1, Data 128 GB/ 1-32 CPU 1 terabyte / 1-64 CPUs

we see that in the 32 bit land, 2003E is the only thing that starts to come close to using that amount of memory. and its 1-2k (USD)

so assuming i'm made of money, and have stuffed my box with $5k of memory and i want to get a little more boost out of it, i can go 15k rpm SAS (with extra cost, and heatloads) or i can go 6x I-RAM2, raid 0. 96 gig of space at 1200 G/s throughput.

other programs like, mail servers, proxies, web servers, and Photoshop requires lots of fast swap space, and most people are unable to use more than 4 gigs of memory, (those running 32 bit windows).

Its a nice product, IF you have maxed out the 4gb limit for your o/s and/or you have to have ubber fast swap/cache.

back when i was at a CDN this would have been a no brainier to raid up in an external chassis (I-RAM1) and connect to a 16/24 port sata controller. We would not have cared that it was only as big as the large sata drive and cost as much as a new car,it got the job done.

There is a place for silicon drives that do not cost as much as a car, if you do not see the need for yourself, great. I would rather wait for I-RAM2 to come out and use it where it makes sense,wherever i need a huge honken bit of fast space.

My backup server is a good example. I have a few boxes dumping deltas as fast as they can across a couple gigE ports to a backup server, so that server can toss them to LTO.

my backups are only as fast as the slowest device, having a I-RAM2 raid 0, works for me. the other boxes are waiting on their local/network issues, not on my backup servers slow large raid. (the x-fer to the slow raid can happen whenever, as long as i have enough space in the I-RAM2 array for the next dump.

right now disk is the slow part in the local box,this addresses the issue

From this picture it looks like the picture that everyone is talking about is the marketing display unit on the left. This looks like a blown up version of the real unit (shown on the right side of the picture) used for the purposes of trade shows (and slash dot advertising) only!

The quoted article is obviously a joke about the marketing version and not refering to the real heatsink unit shown on the right of the linked picture. Even though the real unit is not as large as a small dog and does not use 1.4 kW of power it is still an impressive unit.

Yep, most of the above is my take on the article and may not be 100% correct but it does make more sense then the OP and some of the comments below.

M.

Another photo: http://www.vr-zone.com/eventpics/May05/Computex/Da y00/IMG_3815.JPG

When the revised DFI 479 board comes out, it will SMOKE AMDs and Pentiums alike.

Try an IBM ThinkPad R Series R51, $1299; 14 inch display. Comes with CDRW and DVD player. Weighs 5.7-6.0lbs. Yeah, with the cdrom, would you believe it?

I wasn't blathering, it was just your zealot apple mind garbling the english.

Actually, Hitachi, the makers of the drives in the Apple and Muvo MP3
players makes two types of drives. One type has both a IDE interface
and a CF (compact flash) interface. These will work in the MP3 players,
cameras, and as a hard drive on a computer. The other type only has
the IDE interface. These will work in the MP3 players and as a hard
drive on a computer, but will not work on the cameras. The Apple uses
the IDE only drive. The Muvo used the IDE and CF compatible version
until Hitachi made them switch to the IDE only version, because it was
hurting sales of their stand alone product at much higher margins. The
Rio player uses a Seagate drive so the issues may be different.

BTW Creative has a new Muvo with the Seagate drive, that is easier to take apart.

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=1249&s=1

http://www.photo.net/equipment/hitachi/mp3microdri ve/

No the creative muvo 2... It now has a 5gb drive, which i've read reports are 'extractable.' still.

Check it out.

How many people remember this AMD Dual Core K8 Architecture slide? AMD has been planning this for a long time.

They introduced the k8 on a .13micron process and it was 192mm with 1024k L2 cache. Moving to .09micron it will shrink to 114mm and a dual core version, with 1024k L2 per core, may come in at ~215mm, not much bigger than the current Athlon64!

AMD will claim the market is ready for dual core processors when they move to .09microns sometime next year. We've all read this quote from AMD chairman and CEO (Hector Ruiz), right: "One of the most powerful things next year is going to be our dual-core product. To me, that's going to really shock the hell out of everyone, because it's going to be hardware-compatible, infrastructure-compatible, pin-compatible. I mean, people that have a 2-P system can slap in a dual-core product and end up with a 4-P system for the price of a 2-P. That's been the biggest drawback, everyone tells me. What keeps them from going from a 2-P to a 4-P system? It's price."

Paul DeMone had a great article about the 64bit processors we'll see in 2005 and the k8 is looking pretty good!

Here are the actual pictures.. http://www.vr-zone.com/newspics/Mar04/21/Nocona-1- s.jpg and http://www.vr-zone.com/newspics/Mar04/21/Nocona-2. jpg