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Re:Adblock
Oh, I'm sure that's not the *only* way...
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1218
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4947
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8419
Couldn't find a bug on it, but using mod_deflate would probably help too, and the deflate work could be pushed on to intermediate servers. -
Re:Adblock
Oh, I'm sure that's not the *only* way...
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1218
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4947
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8419
Couldn't find a bug on it, but using mod_deflate would probably help too, and the deflate work could be pushed on to intermediate servers. -
Re:Advertising No Problem
Wiki is NOT pure knowledge. Wiki is known as "collective knowledge" which, in itself can be utterly wrong
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Advertising, a 175 billion USD a year enterprise is evil ONLY as an opinion. A wrong one at that (if it didn't benefit both parties in some way, would it really even exist anymore?)
Corporations are only very rarely faceless and in all facets of the word, art = some form of advertisement (for the artist, for a cause, for what it represents...) I'd sure as hell rather play a Burger King Xbox game than see a statue of the Virgin Mary with shit spread on her face...
Oh yeah, and are YOU going to front the bandwidth and storage bill? Maybe it's just me, but I personally don't have >$400,000 floating around..... -
Re:Cite?
the funkiest one with "element zero" was the "galaxy" periodic table linked in a slashdot article a while back. The other one's I've seen were posters a couple decades ago, and also the neutron and proton have been listed in periodic tables
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Qatar and many other networks segments
A group of Wikipedians has been trying to raise awareness about RFC 1918 private networks among admins and other sysops at Wikipedia. The Qatar issue is just the latest. T-Mobile Hotspots is another big example of these networks. A small group of administrators is trying to hide this information from other admins and even spread disinformation about the issue. You can read user Dmcdevit spreading some crazy disinformation about private networks in this thread. Another admin associated with Dmcdevit, Naconkantari, has been edit warring on the main WikiMedia site over a simple proposal to improve WikiMedia to deal more favorably with these networks. That edit war has gone on for weeks over a simple proposal on the Babel page. I have no idea why anyone would want to tighten a wiki to keep out users of large private networks, but there you have the edit histories on Wikipedia and Wikimedia. Something is afoot.
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Qatar and many other networks segments
A group of Wikipedians has been trying to raise awareness about RFC 1918 private networks among admins and other sysops at Wikipedia. The Qatar issue is just the latest. T-Mobile Hotspots is another big example of these networks. A small group of administrators is trying to hide this information from other admins and even spread disinformation about the issue. You can read user Dmcdevit spreading some crazy disinformation about private networks in this thread. Another admin associated with Dmcdevit, Naconkantari, has been edit warring on the main WikiMedia site over a simple proposal to improve WikiMedia to deal more favorably with these networks. That edit war has gone on for weeks over a simple proposal on the Babel page. I have no idea why anyone would want to tighten a wiki to keep out users of large private networks, but there you have the edit histories on Wikipedia and Wikimedia. Something is afoot.
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Re:Selfserving Article
When did the "Linux community" get so vitriolic and spiteful?
There is no vitriol in the parent's post. The term 'enemy' is only as emotionally charged as the listener wishes it to be. As it's easier to hate an 'enemy' than to understand and accept an opposing point of view, this is probably not the best choice of words in a constructive dialogue.
This isn't some ideological war that is being fought, and shame on you for trying to make it into one.
The parent is simply making an observation. Free Software is an ideology just as capitalism is an ideology. While not mutually exclusive (hence efforts being made to monetize Free Software both on the part of "Open Source" startups and established commercial vendors), these two ideologies do conflict in several areas.
Microsoft is [an] enemy?
<executivesummary>
While an organization as large and diverse as Microsoft will never be entirely focused on activities that impede or overtly threaten the F/OSS community, it has interests that are not and may never be compatible with those of the Free Software community. For that reason, MSFT is directly and indirectly engaged in activities that hurt and threaten the F/OSS community, not out of malice or even by choice, but in simply fulfilling obligations to its shareholders. It's just business
:).</executivesummary>
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Re:Which of these is true?
his is by far the stupids(sic) (uneducatest(sic)/moronic/dull/dumb) comment I have ever seen
... yet you didn't even attempt to refute it, all you would have had to do is link to a image like this or perhaps this well you could have if the graph from NASA actually didn't support the idea of saturation. Also a little critical thinking would show you that if I was correct, and the recent changes in CO2 (as in last few decades) have had little effect on the current warming trend, and the warming trend is in fact an effect of CO2 increases over the last few centuries, the the dribbles and dabs of the Koyoto treaty, which even the signatories aree only pretending to meet, will do as much godd as everybody sitting arround a campfire singing "KUMBYA"! -
Biggest glacier in Iceland ...
wikipedia:
Vatnajökull
It's 8 percent of the country preserved since the ice age.
The average thickness of the ice is 400 m, with a maximum thickness of 1000 m.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb /Iceland_sat_cleaned.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Northern_iceshe et_hg.png
Under the glacier, as under many of the glaciers of Iceland, there are several volcanoes. The volcanic lakes, Grímsvötn for example, were the sources of a large glacier run in 1996. The volcano under these lakes also caused a considerable but short-time eruption in the beginning of November 2004. -
Re:Well...
No, the question is: why has it taken so long for the planet to start to warm again to what are the more reasonable mean temperatures it's had for most of its history (if it is indeed doing so)?
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Holocene_T emperature_Variations.png
or, if you prefer a larger timescale:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:65_Myr_Climate_ Change.png
Oh wait, that question is so so hurtful. I must be paid by the oil firms or something. -
Re:DoE research on biodiesel from algae from '78-'
150 or so years ago government stopped enforcing property rights properly; if property rights were upheld then pollution would not be as bad a problem. Although, I do concede it is more difficult dealing with CO2 than other pollutants
They stopped upholding property rights because they thought it was better for companies too pollute, rather than to spend money on cleaner coal, or ways to clean the smoke as it left the chimney. For example, I think I read somewhere an orchid grower sued a factory but the court decided it was better for everyone for the factory to belch out black smoke. There was no reason to develop cleaner technology so they did not spend resources on it.
CO2 is obviously a bit more difficult though. Maybe the biggest offenders could be made to cut down by class action lawsuits. This pie chart only shows 14% is generated from transportation so cars and stuff arent really much of offenders. (Glad I dont live in a city though, that's another problem).
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Re:Fucking grow up.The United States did not enter Iraq in the first Gulf War.
How's your map reading? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b
4 /Operation_Desert_Storm.jpgI make US forces about 200 miles into Iraq. You?
The first Gulf War ended with a cease fire (that Hussein never signed but it served as a provisional end to the war);Saddam Hussein didn't attend the ceasefire ceremony, but his military commanders did sign the ceasefire. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/middle_east
when Hussein kicked the UN inspectors out of the country, he violated the cease fire and therefore aggressions should have resumed./ 02/iraq_events/html/ceasefire.stmOnce again, Saddam did not kick the inspectors out. He tried to kick the US inspectors out (and succeeded for about six weeks in 1997). http://www.un.org/Depts/unscom/Chronology/chronol
o gyframe.htmThe inspectors were later withdrawn due to non-cooperation, and also because they were at risk from the Desert Fox bombing campaign, which was designed to force Saddam to allow the inspectors into the buildings they had been barred from.
And Saddam did not violate the ceasefire, the terms of the ceasefire simply read 'get out of Kuwait and don't come back, and give us a list of your minefields while you're at it'. The anti-WMD UN resolutions actually predate Desert Storm (see 612), and it's those Saddam violated by refusing to cooperate with UNSCOM.
Unfortunately, Clinton failed to act Except by bombing Baghdad. and, after that, most people forgot about the implications for kicking the UN inspectors out because people have a short memory.People do have such memories don't they? They forget the US invaded Iraq in Desert Storm, they forget the UN inspectors were not kicked out, they forget what it was that Hussein was supposed to have done wrong
If Japan had begun building its military back up directly after the end of WWII, should the US have begun bombing Tokyo again?And sadly there's no real evidence that the Iraqis were building their military up, just failing to get rid of the old one in sufficiently transparent a manner. Why? Possibly because Saddam was stuck trying to convince his very pissed off neighbours to the east and south that he was still a big bad dog.
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Re:The Basics
If you're going the German direction, this style is always popular: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/90/Dr-
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Re:Media Wiki
Whoring, but for people too lazy to google, that macro and others are documented here:
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Use a WikiThe biggest problem with documenation is that we're all too busy keeping the systems running to write up what we did. It therefore is neccessary to use a system where
- It's easy to amend/update
- Access is controllable
- The content is searchable
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Why is only Africa brought up?
- About only 2% of Swedes are lactose intolerant.
- About 20-60% of Africans are lactose intolerant.
I can personally see a much stronger signature of these genetic traits in Scandinavia? Is the difference that this evolution was not "recent"? Because surely it has to be some form of natural selection causing this in Scandinavia too, perhaps trigged earlier for some reason?
Some useful links:
- Lactose intolerance by human groups.
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It's just you.
Maybe it's just me, but I seem to find the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park a little less believable than a kid getting root.
What, cold blooded animals with scales, teeth and claws are unbelievable? It's the hot little furry ones that seem out of place to me, kind of like a run away finger snack. The world is full of big bad beasts.
- Sea Monster! ancient.
- 450 Million year old monster.
- A toothy Noob.
- A cute little monster in your backyard.
Given recent findings of soft tissue in fossils and the fiendish pace of cloning research, you might live to see dinosaurs of an earlier vintage than these. Just think of it as the biological equivalent of running Windows 3.1 in dosbox.
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wikipedia standardized vocabulary and semantic web
People are stupid and lazy. I know I am. And we use the same words to mean different things, and different words to mean the same thing. The Semantic Web requires people to be smart and hardworking, and to use standardized vocabularies in standardized ways. Decades of failed or at best partially successful data exchange protocols strongly suggest that these requirements will not be fulfilled.
A quite standardized vocabulary actually exist in Wikipedia (markup language, templates, categories).
Here is a list of links that try to combine wikipedia and the semantic web:
http://wiki.ontoworld.org/index.php/Semantic_Wiki_ State_Of_The_Art
http://wiki.ontoworld.org/wiki/Sites_using_Semanti c_MediaWiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Semant ic_Wikipedia
http://www2006.org/programme/item.php?id=4039
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Maybe they should Pay One hexadecimal dollar?
It worked for Knuth
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meta:Foundation issues
Wikipedia needs to be less like Debian
Wikimedia Foundation disagrees with you, and some aspects of what the Foundation approves on the servers and bandwidth that it pays for are not up for debate. Feel free to start your own fork (a la Wikinfo) if you and your counsel believe that you can make fair use images work.
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Re:Sounds like Wikipedia needs to study a few idea
Speaking somewhat less childishly, the "long tail" notion is already inherent in the conceptions of what constitutes a good Wikipedia article in Wiki Is Not Paper.
Sorry, that link was broken. Here's one that works: Wiki is not paper. -
Re:Hm
The characterization is still one-sided, since all Indians don't amputate beggars, only a segment of the population. Your statement was categorical, not qualified, and, I suspect, more motivated by resentment at the success of the Indian American community (highest median personal income and family income, as well as highest percentage of advanced degrees among minorities of Asian extraction: http://www.asian-nation.org/demographics.shtml) than any genuine concern for the plight of the beggars in India. By the way, the situation of poverty, which breeds such things, has been steadily improving in India since the 70s: ( http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/48/BPL
_ Data_GOI_.png based on http://mospi.nic.in/mospi_cso_rept_pubn.htm), something that you won't see touted by the Times of India op/ed morons, leftist pundits, and bloggers who don't know any better, or lack broad perspective. -
Re:nobody cares much any more
Wikipedia has funding not directly related to Wikipedia, and in a way that can exert no possible editorial control or ownership over Wikipedia, eg. from wikia and answers.com. Having a decent amount of revenue on the side ensures that Wikipedia won't be at risk of needing on-site advertisements or otherwise having to cede any hint of editorial control to corporate interests.
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Re:Meanwhile, a retired monk...
is building his own Cathedral - with RECYCLED materials and tools, ALONE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justo_Gallego_Mart%C3 %ADnez
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Re:65 million?Others defended the YECs because how dare we make fun of others beleifs.
I wonder what the YECs (or YEC defenders (should I say apologists?)) thought about the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons article slightly less than one year ago. Could I suppose they attacked those as vehemently as they attack those who make fun of YECs?
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Isn't it time Slashdot had a Wiki icon?
There are regular stories on Wikipedia on Slashdot, and occasional stories on other wikis. Shouldn't there be either a Wikipedia icon or a Wiki icon to distinguish these stories? The Wikipedia "multilingual globe being built" is copyright (one of the very few things in Wikipedia which is) so you can't use that, but the Wikipedia "W" is fairly well known. Looking through Wikimedia Commons, this puzzle piece looked good to me. I don't know if the GFDL licence would be a problem for Slashdot.
The MediaWiki sunflower would only be suitable as an icon for Wikis powered by that piece of software. I don't have an idea for an icon to represent all wikis. -
Isn't it time Slashdot had a Wiki icon?
There are regular stories on Wikipedia on Slashdot, and occasional stories on other wikis. Shouldn't there be either a Wikipedia icon or a Wiki icon to distinguish these stories? The Wikipedia "multilingual globe being built" is copyright (one of the very few things in Wikipedia which is) so you can't use that, but the Wikipedia "W" is fairly well known. Looking through Wikimedia Commons, this puzzle piece looked good to me. I don't know if the GFDL licence would be a problem for Slashdot.
The MediaWiki sunflower would only be suitable as an icon for Wikis powered by that piece of software. I don't have an idea for an icon to represent all wikis. -
Isn't it time Slashdot had a Wiki icon?
There are regular stories on Wikipedia on Slashdot, and occasional stories on other wikis. Shouldn't there be either a Wikipedia icon or a Wiki icon to distinguish these stories? The Wikipedia "multilingual globe being built" is copyright (one of the very few things in Wikipedia which is) so you can't use that, but the Wikipedia "W" is fairly well known. Looking through Wikimedia Commons, this puzzle piece looked good to me. I don't know if the GFDL licence would be a problem for Slashdot.
The MediaWiki sunflower would only be suitable as an icon for Wikis powered by that piece of software. I don't have an idea for an icon to represent all wikis. -
Dynatac
Ahhh, the old Dynatac. That thing got mad props on the cover of the Geto Boys We Can't Be Stopped album; which featured a pic of Bushwick Bill using one while on a hospital gurney after shooting his eye out.
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Re:Cyber, eh?
> I thought we all agreed to stop using the word cyber after the burst of the dot-com bubble.
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VAVOOM!!!
YEAH YEAH YEAH BABAY!!!!!
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Re:Ha ha
Spinning rings would be funny, an actual giant sandworm in Second Life would have been much more satisfying. No way would anyone want to go over and touch that.
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blurry
Slightly silly observation: When you look at the BluRay logo and defocus your eyes a little it looks like 'blurry'. It gets worse the smaller the logo is reproduced. Well, makes me laugh anyway.
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Re:Still not as good as Halo 1 alpha?
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Re:Still not as good as Halo 1 alpha?
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searches
As to be expected, there isn't any critical information in the obvious searches (democracy, Tiananmen Square, PRC). I wonder if any of the edits will add this. I'm also curious of the Chinese authorities have secured a way of seeing all edits to the entire site from day to day, purging all the information that is damning to the government.
Under "democracy", I wonder intrigued to see how China is described on the map [from CIA world factbook originally] as "democratic, but does not allow for alternative parties" - which seems to be the standard Orwellian-speak of a communist nation. Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia is their most obvious map listing of a non-democractic government.
FYI, use babelfish and use to/from Chinese-trad for best-but-still-poor results. Remember to translate your search words into Chinese-trad before entering. -
Re:I don't think it even belongs on this list
I still have my Saturn hooked up to play the occasional Shining Force 3, Dragon Force and VF2 game, but then again I've always been a SEGA fanboy to this day.
Oh, and for those who don't believe Saturn was a 3D system, check this picture from the Saturn version of Shenmue. The PSX on the other hand, was so easy to code on that 3D and basic transparencies were easy to achieve.
We're beating on a dead horse, though. And that list is missing the Amiga CD32.
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Re:i work on this project
Do you know how that project compares to the french "Carte Vitale" ?
From the summary, it seems quite similar, except that the "electronic storage" is a smart card.
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Re:It's funny...
If you think that's bad, the original was worse: a box with a sliding CD tray front and center.
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Hmm..Judging from this picture: Van Allen Radiation Belts
Wouldn't building an elevator at the poles eliminate radiation?
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Re:What's there to set straight?
While you're right that legally Gracenote did nothing wrong, morally their actions were pretty nasty, because they took all the information that the community input into their database *for free* and then started making a profit out of it without giving back to the community. And "all the data you input up until we went commercial is here for you to use" doesn't count.
Why not? They had a choice to make: become irrelevant and possibly have to shut down, or go private. Given the better of the two choices, I think he made a best-faith effort to take everything that had been done up to that point, and keep it in the community (that's where FreeDB came from).
Really, I just don't understand the sense of entitlement many people have. I submitted many CD track lists to the old CDDB, and while it's a shame I can't access the newer service for free, everything I submitted (well, unless it was improved) is still available for free. If you're going to give away your time for free, why should you expect anything in return? Perhaps I'm just overly cynical, though.Imagine if Wikipedia suddenly said "well, so long and thanks for all the fish, we're going commercial, oh and by the way, here's the archive of all your contributions so far, feel free to use it for whatever while I become a billionaire". Legal? yes. Feels right? nope.
Actually, no, that wouldn't be legal. Or at least, there's probably a way to do it legally, but it wouldn't be practically feasible. All Wikipedia contributions are required to be licensed under the GFDL. Wikipedia could certainly "go private" as you describe if they wanted to, but they couldn't prevent future "subscribed" users from taking all new content from that point and releasing it back to the community. Wikipedia could potentially change the terms under which new submissions are accepted (though the old submissions would still be GFDL-licensed), but that would create a legal mess, and enough negative feeling in the community that I doubt many people would care to contribute.
That actually brings up a good point, though. Under what terms were submissions accepted into the old pre-privatised CDDB? If CDDB required submissions to be put into the public domain, or copyright to be assigned to CDDB, or licensed to CDDB under terms that basically say "you still own it, but you give CDDB the right to do whatever they want with it," then really, what do you expect? If you contribute to something, make sure you know what the receiving entity is allowed to do with it. If you're not happy with the terms, don't contribute. The guy in the interview mentioned that the bulk of CDDB data still comes from user submissions, so clearly there's a large body of people who have no problem with what they're doing. (Or who don't know, and don't care.)
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Re:Why did people submit data to cddb?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_d
o wnload
follow the links or
http://download.wikimedia.org/It's a pretty safe bet that the Wikimedia foundation won't all of a sudden charge mandatory access fees...
The very content they'd lock up under fees is currently downloadable so if what you "propose" happens then things boil down to two questions: who's got the latest dump and who's gonna host it? It's all GFDL (ignore the whole image/fair use thing) so there's nothing legally there for wikimedia foundation to stop this from happening. Heck, places like answers.com already take the dumps and use them. -
Re:questionable reference built in
http://slashdot.org/articles/05/02/10/2355202.sht
m l and http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Google_hosting
You are obviously not a Slashdot zealot if you don't memorize all the articles that you've read over the years. February 10, 2005, it was reported that Google was prepared to offer server space/bandwidth due to the fact that Answers.com (heavily used by Google in search results) used Wikipedia to a great extent. I can't say what came of this proposal. -
Re:There will be multiple "wars".
Not quite. Many embedded devices still use Windows. It generally isn't possible to know what operating system a device is running on, unless you specifically take the time to research it, or you happen to see it crash.
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Re:Slashdot needs
I just found the perfect one.
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Re:Something I've never understood about the "tube
T"en movies streaming across that, that Internet, and what happens to your own personal Internet? I just the other day got... an Internet was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday, I got it yesterday. Why? [...] They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the Internet. And again, the Internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. And if you don't understand those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it's going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material"
Maybe because he called an email he had gotten "an Internet". (Sound clip here) He actually did say that, the ... in the quote is him studdering to no end. Just because he semi-got the physical reference correct, it's like a kid who didn't study for a test and circled random answers, he might have gotten 1 or two correct, but the rest of the test was wrong. -
Re:you'll get answers
No. ice cores work somewhat like tree rings - with winter summer and so on, the snow deposited that form the ice change in character. This means that if you look at the ice using a magnifying glass, you will see bands and striations corresponding to seasonal cycles, with each band being one year. So, because we have ice cores with over 600 bands on them, we can see that ice in the Artic are at least 600 years old, and are not broken by a instance where, say, all of the arctic melted. (In fact http://www.physorg.com/news68305951.html implies at least 55 million years of ice history at the north pole)
In summary, it isn't the depth that gives the chronological information, but the layers. This is illustrated by:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7 f/GISP2_1855m_ice_core_layers.gif/384px-GISP2_1855 m_ice_core_layers.gif -
Re:That doesn't seem like alot
Actually, they're not, really. They've been broken for a while now: http://download.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20061014/ That being said, last I read the databases were approaching, if not exceeding a terabyte in size. Would be a far more complex project to test for plagiarism against a terabyte of corpus.
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Debunked? Please come again
According the Canadian Ice Service, the amount of ice in Canada's eastern Arctic Archipelago decreased by 15% between 1969 and 2004.
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Re:Sympathy for the Devil
That's the whole article, not just the picture; for a Happy Little Family Picture, there's this one, which doesn't make me feel particularly sorry for the proud papa.
As long as we're linking Wikipedia pictures, I'm not particularly sorry for either of the war criminals shaking hands in this picture. All that's happening to the one on the left, though, is that some people are saying he should be fired.