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The article specifically mentioned "deviant" pornography, so that's what I looked for to narrow the search. As you can tell from your search, there are a lot of child porn articles that I wasn't in the mood to search through, so I looked up "deviant", the term that made this unique in the Slashdot article. I'll accept the fact that it's occurred, no problem. From your search: Of course, it is pure malarkey for FBI agents to complain that policing porn takes valuable resources from the war on terrorism. In the FBI context, every agent who polices public corruption or civil-rights violation is an agent not working on terrorism. In a broader governmental context, the same could be said of welfare, health care and federal aid to the Katrina victims, to take some random examples. Every dollar spent by the federal government on causes other than terrorism takes a dollar away from fighting terrorism. Before we discuss cutting police power with regard to pornography, perhaps we should re-evaluate dedicating millions of federal dollars to building new bridges named after Robert Byrd. http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ ID=46455 I'd tend to agree. Agree or disagree with the actions of the FBI, to treat it all as some zero sum game where absolutely all other actions the FBI takes somehow prevent us from fighting terrorism is ridiculous. It would also appear that I was wrong in my statement that the total number of personnel involved would be eight including support and supervisory staff. It's actually eight PLUS supervisory and support staff. My mistake.

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee thinks that we should use 'black' type names.

"A sampling of popular names that could be used include Keisha, Jamal and Deshawn, according to the paper."

OH NOES!!! HERE COMES HURRICANE SHENEQUA!

There is a reason US was attacked instead of Canada but nobody wants to think about that.

Yeah... namely, that Canada is eager not only to shelter and protect Muslim extremists, but also to officially implement Sharia law. Such dedication to inclusiveness must be rewarded!

After Afghanistan, Canada is just about the last place that Osama would've wanted to attack in 2001.

When it comes to bending over and taking it in the arse, whether from George W. Bush or Osama Bin Laden, you could hardly ask for a more cooperative partner than Canada.

Why do so many American's buy their prescriptions from Canada?

I have my own share of problems with America, but at least we still have freedom of religion and speech, unlike Canada and even with a corporatist president like Bush, somehow we still managed to get things like the Do-Not-Call list passed and the FTC's spam complaint system passed. I've never understood the left-wing rubes that want to "flee to Canada" whenever Bushitler does something they dislike (such as getting reelected in a landslide this time) or when the word "draft" is used seriously by elected officials. If I were going to expatriate for a while, I'd go to Ireland, Italy, Costa Rica or some place like that. Even if it were no freer in many ways than the US, at least it'd be a lot cooler than effectively fleeing to America Lite.

Hopefully more stuff like this will show the sheep in the USA that Canada is not the land of Good Government(tm), abundant liberty for all and milk and honey that they think it is. It is a regular country, like every other one, with its own major problems, just like the US. I have nothing against Canada, personally, and in fact am one of those rare American righists who actually likes and respects France for the most part. It's just that stuff like this makes me laugh because Canada is presented as such a utopia by so many leftists in America.

"Judge not..." And now for something completely different...Just thought I'd throw that in for...no reason really. Must've been something I ate. An "undigested bit of beef", perhaps I see more evidence every day that free will is indeed an illusion. "The mind is what the brain does" --Nat Geo, March 2005 issue. It's quoted elsewhere, but that's where I first saw it. So...who's going to be the first to use the "parasite" defense in a murder case? The "twinkie" defense might have some merit after all. Some people do react rather intensly to suger alergies. Maybe all that soda pop you drink could actually make you crazy. Watch out Coca-Cola. There could be a lawsuit coming.

Google has the authority to ban any ad with which it disagrees, and some of their decisions (like "no gun ads") can be construed to have political overtones. Other stuff you can't advertise using Google includes: beer or hard alcohol, tobacco, gambling, and other weapons.

Google makes a great advertising service, but Google is not wholly libertarian in what it allows. I'm surprised that on Slashdot, a site I'd consider pretty libertarian in its own right, Google is so rarely criticized for its policies.

A few hundred years ago the world was a warmer place: grapes grew in England; the Vikings moved to Greenland and it was green (hence the name).

Then it gold colder. The grapes died, and the Vikings got sick of snow and ice.

Now it's getting warmer again but oh no: It's global warming! It's pollution! We're destroying our planet with all the microwaves!

Remember the 1970's, people? "Scientists" like Dr. Steven Schneider were not pushing Greenhouse Theory back then, oh no, they were pushing the coming Ice Age! One of my favourite Schneider quotes is:

"To capture the public imagination, we have to offer up some scary scenarios, make simplified dramatic statements and little mention of any doubts one might have. Each of us has to decide the right balance between being effective and being honest."

Weather cycles ya know, people. It's big, sometimes it's ugly, but most of all it's natural!

I've been working on a little theory that the whole outsourcing phenomena is reflective of a much deeper economic problem that's been developing in the U.S. over the last 20+ years.

The last great bout with price-inflation in the U.S. was in the late 1970's, after Nixon cut the dollar's theoretical gold-peg (theoretical, because only foreigners could redeem dollars for gold), and while the economy was absorbing all of the dollars that'd been "printed" to pay for the Vietnam war.

Paul A. Volcker, chairman of the Federal Reserve from 1979->1987, solved the Inflationary crisis of the early 1980's by hiking interest rates to obscenely high levels. His entry in the wikipedia says that inflation was reduced from 9% in 1980 to 3.5% in 1982. The cure wasn't easy, however, as it induced a recession and much joblessness. It was thought that Reagan was going to be a one-termer.

Anyways, today is like the 1970's all over again. We've had tons of newly printed money spewing out of the government since about 1995. First it fueled the dot-com bubble. The government opened the money-faucet even wider after 9/11. The effect of having more money in the economy is that prices go up for scarce items with high demand. Hence we have home prices that seems to grow without end, and the price of oil going through the roof.

The difference between the 2000's and the 1970's is that Giant Corporations seem to think they have a way out of paying American workers the increased wages price inflation forces them to demand: outsourcing.

Remember Little Boy George's hundred-billion $ economic stimulus package that got passed soon after 9/11? In decades past, Americans (er, USians) would've taken the money and gone out and bought products built buy other Americans (USians). Those producers would take their profits from all the sales and use them to invent new things to sale, and new American factories to build them in. Closed circuit, stimulus gets recycled in the economy over and over again.

In the new system, Americans take their economic stimulus to go out and buy stuff "made in china" And profits from that sale allows chinese entrepreneurs to go and build a new factory in China. Open circuit. So Georgie Boy's stimulus package went around once.

There's nothing wrong with trade, so long as it's a two-way street. But at least in the last 4 years, Americans have been buying goods from China, and the chinese have been lending the dollars they've made in the sale back to us, to pay for our illustrious leader's silly little jihad against self-induced terrorism (See Harry Browne's When Will We Learn [part 2], and his other 2001 articles for what I think is a lucid explanation of how the U.S.'s foreign policy has lead to the problems we face today).

Getting back to the subject at hand: the primary problem is not that there's a trade imbalance, but that the Federal Reserve's willy-nilly printing of money allows the imbalance to grow much much larger than it ever could otherwise. In hard-money times, if China accumulated an excess of dollars, those dollars would become worth less in world trade. Chinese products would become more expensive for Americans to buy, and American products would become cheaper for the Chinese.

But as it has been, the Chinese pegged their currency to the dollar (hence, no relative adjustment in the value of the two currencies), and that was just fine for Georgie, 'cause the chinese bought plenty of U.S. bonds to pay for his silly little war.

I think i'm rambling now, so I'll quit soon. My main point is that Giant Corporations are outsourcing today to hide rampant 1970's-style inflation from their customers.

Outsourcing is also done to prevent the natural "leveling of the playing field." In a closed-circuit economy, if no one want

I've been working on a little theory that the whole outsourcing phenomena is reflective of a much deeper economic problem that's been developing in the U.S. over the last 20+ years.

The last great bout with price-inflation in the U.S. was in the late 1970's, after Nixon cut the dollar's theoretical gold-peg (theoretical, because only foreigners could redeem dollars for gold), and while the economy was absorbing all of the dollars that'd been "printed" to pay for the Vietnam war.

Paul A. Volcker, chairman of the Federal Reserve from 1979->1987, solved the Inflationary crisis of the early 1980's by hiking interest rates to obscenely high levels. His entry in the wikipedia says that inflation was reduced from 9% in 1980 to 3.5% in 1982. The cure wasn't easy, however, as it induced a recession and much joblessness. It was thought that Reagan was going to be a one-termer.

Anyways, today is like the 1970's all over again. We've had tons of newly printed money spewing out of the government since about 1995. First it fueled the dot-com bubble. The government opened the money-faucet even wider after 9/11. The effect of having more money in the economy is that prices go up for scarce items with high demand. Hence we have home prices that seems to grow without end, and the price of oil going through the roof.

The difference between the 2000's and the 1970's is that Giant Corporations seem to think they have a way out of paying American workers the increased wages price inflation forces them to demand: outsourcing.

Remember Little Boy George's hundred-billion $ economic stimulus package that got passed soon after 9/11? In decades past, Americans (er, USians) would've taken the money and gone out and bought products built buy other Americans (USians). Those producers would take their profits from all the sales and use them to invent new things to sale, and new American factories to build them in. Closed circuit, stimulus gets recycled in the economy over and over again.

In the new system, Americans take their economic stimulus to go out and buy stuff "made in china" And profits from that sale allows chinese entrepreneurs to go and build a new factory in China. Open circuit. So Georgie Boy's stimulus package went around once.

There's nothing wrong with trade, so long as it's a two-way street. But at least in the last 4 years, Americans have been buying goods from China, and the chinese have been lending the dollars they've made in the sale back to us, to pay for our illustrious leader's silly little jihad against self-induced terrorism (See Harry Browne's When Will We Learn [part 2], and his other 2001 articles for what I think is a lucid explanation of how the U.S.'s foreign policy has lead to the problems we face today).

Getting back to the subject at hand: the primary problem is not that there's a trade imbalance, but that the Federal Reserve's willy-nilly printing of money allows the imbalance to grow much much larger than it ever could otherwise. In hard-money times, if China accumulated an excess of dollars, those dollars would become worth less in world trade. Chinese products would become more expensive for Americans to buy, and American products would become cheaper for the Chinese.

But as it has been, the Chinese pegged their currency to the dollar (hence, no relative adjustment in the value of the two currencies), and that was just fine for Georgie, 'cause the chinese bought plenty of U.S. bonds to pay for his silly little war.

I think i'm rambling now, so I'll quit soon. My main point is that Giant Corporations are outsourcing today to hide rampant 1970's-style inflation from their customers.

Outsourcing is also done to prevent the natural "leveling of the playing field." In a closed-circuit economy, if no one want

I am always amazed when an american thinks the crime rates in the states are comparable to other places in the world.

Well, they are. Sorry if that "amazes" you. America's crime rates, with the exception of murder which has been dropping for a decade now, are all lower than Europe's and other countries. Facts supported by the numbers.

U.S. crime is actually at an all-time 30-year low. And here's an article: Britain, Australia top U.S. in violent crime. The U.S. wasn't even in the top 10!

You take this to mean GW Bush, I think there are others to blame, like almost every Democrat in the senate. They're using this to advance their own politics, they want to weaken Bush's leadership ability and the war is the perfect avenue for that. Making a big hoopla over some humiliating acts in Abu Graib prison is one example of our poor leadership, has nothing to do with GW's leadership style as it was not his role to prevent that sort of stuff, that was a failure lower down in the ranks.

Apologizing to the world would be an example of what a leader SHOULDN'T do, especially in time of war. It is the same as admitting to a mistake, and we don't think the Iraq war is a mistake like you do. THat's why you don't see apologies! You read up on Vietnam and find out why we lost that war, it was because of the stupid politics you're supporting, apologies and pussy footing.

The military has cut its recruitment targets in half and is still having problems meeting them. There are no marines sitting around waiting for something to do as you appear to believe.

You're a liar. The military has been increasing it's recruitment goals over the last few years, significantly, and they have only in the last few months failed to meet their goal. That is expected to change by years end.

I know a guy who's sitting around waiting to go back to Iraq. He's sure he'll have to go back, he just doesn't know when... I know another guy who just enlisted, he said there were over a hundred people at the enlistment office when he was there. Back when I enlisted, there were maybe 2 dozen. They aren't using all the armed forces at once, theres something like 250,000 deployed in the middle east out of like 700,000 servicemen. Get your facts straight, retard.

The Al Queda #2 was Zawahiri, and if you do some googling you'll find reports that he met with Saddam Hussein in 1992. APparently there are many links between Saddam Hussein and these terrorists: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTI CLE_ID=34841 If you want to beat that bush further, go right ahead. I think it's pretty stupid of you to claim that all the other middle east countries had connections with terrorism but that Iraq didn't.

Next, you want to assign some benevolent mission to Al Qaeda, like they have a just purpose, which is silly, and their stated purpose is to destroy the infidels/zionists. They use the words interchangeably to mean all of wester civilization, so don't get technical on me like you know more than Al Queda knows about it's self. Listen to reason, retard. Guess you're not as bright as I first suspected.

The cold war started right after WW2 when the soviets took over east Berlin, and ended with the fall of the Berlin wall, which was during the Reagan administration. How'd you interpret what I said as "Reagan started the cold war"? You're an idiot, and apparently you know very little about the cold war if you think it was limited to Eisenhower and Kennedy. Reagan dealt directly with the soviets in an arms race, it was his entire foreign policy. You remember? "Mr. Gorbachev, Tear down that wall!" Oh you probably weren't born yet!

"With no power, of which they are possessed, do [legislatures] seem to be less familiar, or to handle less awkwardly, than that of eminent domain. . . . At times they fail, or seem to fail, to distinguish accurately between public and private ends, and if their terms and language be alone consulted, to pervert the power to uses to which it cannot lawfully be applied."

-- Sherman v. Buick
(California Supreme Court, 1867)

Check out this guy who can summon UFOs on demand. Has a link to a news broadcast where they filmed him doing it. Shocked the hell out of the camera crew.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ ID=44503

Pretty cool.

-Matt

Google is an expert on censorship...the Chinese market will smothly fit into their U.S. agenda. See:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTI CLE_ID=44105

Whatever happened with the "don't do evil" Google promise? It seems to me that the more money they make the more they conveniently forget where they are coming from. Nevermind the political censorship of an opressive and murderous government - Google makes money..that's all it matters. Google is an expert on censorship...the Chinese market will smothly fit into their U.S. agenda. See: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTI CLE_ID=44105

David Kupelian of World Net Daily considers PETA's official non-committal stance on abortion to be saying that an animal's life is worth saving, a human babies isn't.

I would say that PETA does consider animal life to be at least equal if not supperior to human life.

Sorry to break it to you, but this was kicked off in 1996 by Bill Clinton. link here

From the article: For those who point to the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution, Poole explains that President Bill Clinton recently signed Executive Order 13083 entitled "Federalism." That document effectively gives authority to the federal government to force anything it wants on states. No effort was made by anyone in Congress to overturn the Executive Order. Conservatives went to their legislators in 1995 to protest an effort by Utah Gov. Mike Leavitt to establish a Conference of the States to address the issue of states rights and federalism.

Little notice was given to the issue in 1996 when Congress passed the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act. One section of the act requires all states to make their driver's licenses comply with certain guidelines found in Section 656 (b) of the act. Federal agencies will be required to prohibit the use of state driver's licenses beginning Oct. 1, 2000, unless they comply with the federal standards.

"These new National ID regulations violate every notion of federalism, because they force states to comply with regulations issued by the federal government without any constitutional authority to do so," says Patrick Poole of the Free Congress Foundation. "Nor are federal agencies empowered to force state to gather detailed information on every person in order to comply with federal mandates. The net result of the DOT's regulations is to establish a national ID system, which has been opposed by almost every non-governmental sector for the past five decades." Shortly after the passage of the act by congress, Utah state Rep. Gerry A. Adair introduced a bill to comply with the federal requirements.

Without the new card it may become impossible to purchase firearms, get a job, board a plane, vote, cash a check, open a bank or investment account, purchase insurance, receive federal benefits, obtain a student loan, receive Medicare or Medicaid benefits, and many more basic services presently taken for granted according to Poole. Once the card is in use, Poole suggests that privacy will be a thing of the past.

All of this said, this is one of the reasons I can't stand it when ppl blame everything on Bush without even doing any research.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ ID=44129

Note what the opponents are saying. Not that they can demonstrate the correctness of their position, but that they can sling enough mud and portray their opponents as "... ignoramuses ...".

Darwinists are apparently out of logical argument so can only rely on ad hominem attacks.

They won't challenge the ID team because they can't do so because it would require them to engage in scientific debate.

Also note the two definitions of "science".

The open minded "We have to come up with a natural explanation even if it is absurd", instead of the really bigoted "continuing investigation that uses observation, hypothesis testing, measurement, experimentation, logical argument and theory building to lead to more adequate explanations of natural phenomena".

Investigation is not science?
Observation is not science?
Testing hypotheses and Measurement are not science?
Experimentation, Logical Argument and Theory Building are not science?

Apparently none of these are "science" to darwinists, at least if they conflict with darwinism (do they yet allow punctuated equilibrium yet as not quite heresy?).

If none of these things are science to darwinists, I find it hard to imagine what is?

Interesting, but the McVeigh article is absolutely worthless, telling *about* McVeigh's plans. Check out the wicked drawings, an example of which is http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images/mcveighsketch2 .jpg.
The plans basically say, "There were some barrels with stuff in them, and he set the fertilizer/nitro-methand mixture off with some explosives."

• Aljazeera, the news service the US doesn't like.
• Stormfront, one of the last remnants of the Klu Klux Klan.
• Cocaine synthesis instructions, which somebody probably doesn't like being out there.
• Elements of Thermonuclear Weapon Design, how an H-bomb works.
• How to build a truck bomb, by Timothy McVeigh.

Are any of these blocked in your area?

here

It's not just Best Buy. It's the moron manager, the idiot cashiers, and the dumb-fucking cop. I hope this guy sues the shit out of not only the store, but the police department. People get sequential serial numbers on money all the time, especially when they get their money from banks.

Your an idiot, 911 happened under Bush but was planned, organized, and generally came together under Clinton. How long had Bush been President when it happened? Less then a year. How long was it being planned? Alot longer then that. And maybe if Clinton hadn't squandered so much time with the fat girl(s) then he would have been availible when asked for the final confirmation and Laden would have been dead in 2000.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTI CLE_ID=34942 -one of the first google pages from "clinton ladin mission" There are plenty more.

We need the UN to take over the Internet!

Only the folks who were in charge of Oil For Food, who stood idely by in Rwanda, who rape children and goats in Timor, and who rape women and children in the Congo are ideally suited for regulating the Internet.

Only they can keep us safe(*)!

-gandalf23@work

* Safe meaning free from worrisome strife and confusion by only allowing us to view what is in our best interests. By filtering out the un-truths and lies, they will free us with conformity and the status quo. Pesky innovation will no longer be allowed! Who needs to upgrade their computer every six months anyway? Anarchists and pornographers and other ne'er-do-wells, that's who! And who needs encryption? Only people who have something to hide!

Help us UN! You're our only hope!

Thus you have the extreme environmentalists (who've gotten rid of nuclear power in Germany), and the third world revolutionaries (who've actually convinced people that little Israel is the greatest threat to world peace) running amok. More germane to the present discussion, though, are the authoritarian "liberals" who've put in place the sort of hate speech laws that would make Harvard envious. Case in point:

• In France Le Pen was convicted of "racism" simply for saying immigrants are taking over the country
• In Sweden a Christian minister was sued for saying homesexuality is a cancer
• In Canada (now spiritually, if not geographically, in the European orbit) a man was convicted of spreading anti-Islamic "hate literature" and had to undergo Islamic indoctrination
• Nazi propoganda and symbols are banned while Communists and Islamists are untouched and even win elections

These new political speech regulations I hope with every atom of my body will be struck down as blatantly unconstitutional (though who knows which way the unprincipled, lawless, "living constitution" liberals on the court will turn), but if not it would mean the U.S. is becoming more like Europe- a semi-feudal society where left-wing technocrats implement social engineering on a passive society.

I love how slashdot's hordes of visitors make spamming so easy.
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Free iPod? Try an adult website
Or a torrent site with adult movies
Racist closet homosexuals as proof

You will find a far better explaination of what is going on in this case here. I recommend that you read it and then go back through your questions and assumptions.

Sure, conspiracies do exist, but not everything is a "conspiracy". Of course, I would love to know what the real meat to this one is, if it really is a "conspiracy". Let me guess what you think: gay porn prostitutes conspire against Democrats with Christian Right hardline administration to ask occasional softball questions at press conferences.... news organizations being forced to carry right-wing gay-porn hardline Christian pro-prostitute spin to further their agenda due to it being only questions allowed to be asked at press conferences. Whoo hoo! There is something after all!!

Hmmm. Or maybe it is: Loser with a web site feels important from being admitted on a "day press pass" and being called upon due to being known for asking softball questions? Loser admitted to press conferences on same alias basis as Larry King and on the same journalistic basis as the Schlepville Iowa Gazette.

Hmmm.... Which is it? .... Which is it? I guess only time will tell.

Gee, you don't think that Dittohead has been reading the WorldNetDaily, do you? An impartial news source if I've ever seen one... :)

This is news to me.

Start of Panama Canal Transfer problems. End of the transfer problems when the US finally fulfills its treaty obligation 22 years late. And since this is "news" to highschool history failures like you, the end of the US military occupation of Panama that went along with that transfer.

The people of Okinawa have protested several times since the end of the war, the largest such protest after a 12 year old girl was raped. The Japanese government usually ignores it, mostly because of American threats of economic ruin in the event that the bases have to "suddenly go away".

I'm so sorry that I didn't spend the time to look up more cites for you to ignore last time, and I know you ignored them because you ignored my next cite:

IN-TER-NA-TION-AL community tried sanctions to affect change. I would think you would approve?

Hell yeah, I approved. Shame that both Clinton and Bush apparently didn't, since their administrations knew about the violations and did nothing about it. You'd know that if you had read the link I gave you. Or hell, if you had read your newspaper instead of using it to wipe your ass.

The Iraqi that voted did not come out of polling places raging against America or the election process. (For now we'll ignore the fact that two major political parties boycotted the election because of their belief that the US could not run a fair election)

Just wait until the US slaps them with the bill. How pissed off will they be then when America siphons off what little money they have over a $100billion bill? Until then, as one of the people who paid for this big experiment at the cost of $12(at least, since the initial 72% turnout estimate has already slipped to 60%... nobody really knows how many people showed up, and of those how many were turned away due to typical American election oopsies like lack of ballots)billion per vote, I have the right to be upset about how my money was spent.

for the first time is exercising his freedom

wrong, wrong, wrong. Scroll down to the bottom, and note how this weekend was the first election in 50 years. Thats right, folks, Iraq used to have elections! They used to be a democracy!

is an aspiration with real meaning to a people who have suffered from decades of dictatorship.

Who needs dictatorship when we can suffer from your ignorance (and that of others like you). Tell you what, save up a few pennies every day and go buy yourself a nice set of Encyclopedias. Get the ones with the big colorful pictures, they're easier to read.

I'm serious:
http://brianwilson.net/pages/ethnic.html
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ ID=30692
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/opinion/baroneweb/mb_ 040603.htm
http://www.rfcnet.org/news/default.asp?action=deta il&article=79

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22dead+w hite+guys%22+school+%22founding+fathers%22

Of course not.

But global warming theory is just that: a theory. Hard, reliable and (what we today might call) accurate scientific measurements to support such a theory don't exist much prior to early 1900's, and yet graphs "demonstrating" global warming often cite data recorded long before that. Either that or they cite the limited period of 1950-1980 and try to extrapolate century-spanning trends from that.

One should wonder why the number of qualified people actually pushing global warming (ie: not greenies, media, politicians nor commercial interests, but actual scientific researchers) is a relatively small minority in the scientific community.

It is rare that you see any notable scientists or environmentalists get "front page" or "leading story" media coverage when criticizing the global warming theory. David Suzuki? David Bellamy? The closest he got to front page was page 84 (see "Global warming? It's a load of rubbish says Professor David Bellamy", Sunday Mail, Jul 18, 2004).

One global warming advocate (he's even been termed a "global warming super-salesman") who gets a lot media coverage over the years, even being a scientific adviser to US Congress on the issue, is Dr. Stephen Schneider. He was one of the people pushing "the coming ice age" and the "global cooling" theory 40 years ago of which Thangodin complained about above. In one of his more down-to-earth moments, even Dr. Schneider did not fully endorse global warming:

U.S. to blame for Africa's drought?
Dr. Stephen Schnieder, Stanford University's outspoken global-warming advocate, admitted at a press conference at the Buenos Aires U.N. meeting, that no "reputable" scientist could say for certain that climate change due to human activity has yet occurred. No reputable scientist can yet say for certain that human activity causes global warming.

This was only 2002. And from the same article it seems that the journalist himself has hit the nail on the head:

But it doesn't matter what is true - what matters is what people believe to be true.

I encourage people to go find their own facts and form their own opinions about global warming instead of accepting whatever media reports as The Gospel Truth.

Obviously, I'm not going to argue that the U.S. is the pinnacle of morality, because it isn't. America's human rights record is vastly better than China's, and they're not even in the same league.

If you want to discuss real oppression, talk to someone like Harry Wu, a Chinese-American man who I've heard speak. He was forced into the lau-gai, which were slave labor camps operated by the Chinese that still exist today. Or talk to members of Falun-Gong. China's government is much, much worse in terms of human rights violations than America'a.

"The potential of embryonic stem cells became apparent in the late 1990s, and in 2000 the National Institutes of Health announced that it would fund stem-cell research as long as the actual extraction of cells from embryos was done by someone else. President Clinton strongly supported this policy." [Source]

And if you think Slate is too liberal a source to trust on this, here's a venom spitting concervitive to back me up.

"the feds are not going to actually get involved -- will not spend appropriated funds -- until after the pluripotent stem cells have been already recovered from the process." [Source]

I think we can safely take the above paragraph to indicate that Clinton approved the use of federal funds to research embryonic stem cells, though did not approve said funds to actualy extract the cells.

Anything else you need me to prove?

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTI CLE_ID=42521

Here's a link that explains about what Evolution is and why several companies in the U.S. object to it:
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ ID=42392 ;-)

Pope John Paul II himself also declared that The Monster was "more than just a leader" (paraphrased).

Many new vehicles already have black boxes that record passenger conversations. They already have GPS devices and transmitters that interrogate roadside receivers to determine make and model of your vehicle. And most of the buying public doesn't know about it. I forgot which of the automakers installed such devices in ALL of their new vehicles in 2004.

The government has the ability to record your phone conversations, read your email (FBI-Carnivore), track your tv watching habits, and record your purchases at the grocery store (wonder what those 'discount' cards are for?).

Just think about it. The police don't need a warrant to put a GPS device in your vehicle just like the PATRIOT Act permits agents to search homes and CONFISCATE property under a low evidentiary standard, WITHOUT first notifying the owner. People are getting arrested and are called 'terrorists' for petty crimes. A group of Christians were arrested for evangelizing at homosexual rally. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTI CLE_ID=42337/. Whether you agree with it or not, this appears to be a clear case of violation of free speech and religious rights just because states like California and cities like Philadelphia have 'hate speech' laws.

Are you getting the picture now?

The mujahadeen were recieving funding and training from the US, ironically Osama bin Laden being the recipient of some of it as well! I guess what goes around comes around as he did the 9-11 thing, the US set up a government in Afganistan, which now runs about as much of the country as the Russians did beforehand.

And don't forget the Iraqis are having a good go at kicking out the unwanted American forces and government. Though obviously the right for Iraqis to bear arms was left our of their constituion.

Given that the gun lobby is a major force in the Republican party its only going to be a Democrat government that gets hit by the NRA calling its members to arms.

Interestingly a Russian trawler (actually a spy ship) purportedly did aim a laser at a Canadian military helicopter in 1997. This incident was pretty much brushed under the carpet (just as the recent findings regarding Chinese spying in Canada will undoubtedly be).

I stand corrected :-)

Capitalism or capitolism?

I just never heard of it, eh?

In one public school bus in Carroll County, Md., young children asked their bus driver, a woman named Stella Tsourakis, to pray with them. She agreed, but when her superiors found out, she was told that she was wrong to do so. To make matters worse, she was told that the kids were not allowed to pray on the bus, and if any of them tried, she was ordered to tell them to get off and walk home!

Just a few years ago, two teen-age girls in Texas were told by their public-school teacher to remove their Ten Commandments book covers, or suffer punishment.

Here's the alternative plan. Fund serious global efforts to document global warming, greenhouse gas buildup in the atmosphere, etc. Don't screw with the global economy which is raising billions of people out of poverty until you understand the threat, have a variety of strategies for fixing it, and have good projections of what harm it will cause. Otherwise, no plan is better than a bad plan.

Like who, Nelson Mandella, Mother teressa? Linus torvals?

Yes. Ultimately, did any of these people live a life that they didn't want to live?

It may be there 'self interest' but it's a hell of a lot of other peoples too. Just beacuse everyone else appears to be greedy and biggeted to you doesn't mean that you shouldn't set a good example. Selfishness shouldn't be encouraged, since being selfish is the oposite of being social how the hell can it ever be for the good of society.

I didn't say everyone is "greedy and bigoted". But rather that people help themselves or to help people or groups that they identify with. In particular, the person should be responsible for fulfilling their own needs and wants. For example, it shouldn't be my job to make sure you aren't selfish.

Also, by "selfish" behavior, I assume you mean behavior where I act to benefit myself and in the process impose a cost on you. If my action helps you and society in general (for example, most activities in Capitalism), then it shouldn't matter whether I did it to benefit myself or not.

Finally, "social" activities can be very harmful. For example, total war is a very social activity involving the cooperation of every member of society in a selfless way, but it's horribly destructive.

All that I was saying is that there are authentic texts over a thousand years old and the mention exactly the same situations, so it's hard to see how we have 'progressed'

These situations won't change over the next few thousand years either. The strong always have the option to take from the weak.

What you ignored is that now, the human race is the brain of Earth's ecosystem. For the first time, life on Earth has a growing understanding of what it is, the consequences of its actions, and a huge body of knowledge (in just the last fifty years) that doesn't come from genes or learned behavior. For example, we understand continental drift. We are delving into the mysteries of genetics. We see to the farthest reaches of the universe, and are the only multicellular species that has been *everywhere*. Whether it be in the deepest ocean, deep underground, outer space, or Anartica.

We have transportation that can reach anywhere inside of a day (with the creation of a suborbital industry it will soon be within an hour). We have computers that can perform tremendous calculations at incredible speeds most alien to Earth-based life. I can speak with anyone on the planet who has access to a phone.

But instead, you focus on moral games that will never change. Take from you or not. The choice remains no matter how we evolve or not.

wind power:
Kill those birds baby, still you won't be able to have a hot coffee in the morning (if there is any coffee that is).

The most deadly windmills kill roughly two to three birds per windmill per year. That's a lower rate of bird death than some plate glass windows. Or a feral cat. Your comments on my other energy options were equally vacuous.

I think you really need to look at your hysteria here. Maybe it will turn out that Kyoto was a timely prudent measure despite the economic costs it imposes and that the stonewalling of the US will cause tremendous harm down the road. I don't

GPS implantable tracking device.

Wal-Mart tracking customers. Quoted from the article: Proctor & Gamble teamed with the retail giant in the test over a four month-period which allowed researchers to view the Wal-Mart shelves from company headquarters some 750 miles away in Cincinnati, according to the Chicago Sun-Times.

You're right, why worry about 750 miles, when in the near future they could track it ALL THE WAY AROUND THE WORLD.

GPS implantable tracking device.

Wal-Mart tracking customers. Quoted from the article: Proctor & Gamble teamed with the retail giant in the test over a four month-period which allowed researchers to view the Wal-Mart shelves from company headquarters some 750 miles away in Cincinnati, according to the Chicago Sun-Times.

You're right, why worry about 750 miles, when in the near future they could track it ALL THE WAY AROUND THE WORLD.

Well, here's an article for VeriChip, which is implantable, and stores a persons health information, and is wirelessly writable.

Here's another about an implantable GPS system, currently the size of a pacemaker, but the inventors believe it can be shrunk down to as much as 1/10th the size.

And, one last one about Wal-Mart, tracking customers using RFID "from company headquarters some 750 miles away".

So yes, RFID can do those things, and IS doing some of those things now.

Well, here's an article for VeriChip, which is implantable, and stores a persons health information, and is wirelessly writable.

Here's another about an implantable GPS system, currently the size of a pacemaker, but the inventors believe it can be shrunk down to as much as 1/10th the size.

And, one last one about Wal-Mart, tracking customers using RFID "from company headquarters some 750 miles away".

So yes, RFID can do those things, and IS doing some of those things now.

Well, here's an article for VeriChip, which is implantable, and stores a persons health information, and is wirelessly writable.

Here's another about an implantable GPS system, currently the size of a pacemaker, but the inventors believe it can be shrunk down to as much as 1/10th the size.

And, one last one about Wal-Mart, tracking customers using RFID "from company headquarters some 750 miles away".

So yes, RFID can do those things, and IS doing some of those things now.

Don't worry the UN will close this individual rights "loophole"
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTI CLE_ID=17276
This article is old, but this is still going on.

restoring the everglades

If by ``restoring the everglades'' you mean ``stealing people's land using eminent domain'', then sure, they're restoring the everglades.

Eminent domain is the vilest process the government can practice. It is everything this country is supposed to stand against, even when it's not being used to take land from the poor (often poor family farmers) and give to the rich, all in the name of economic development. Ever wonder what's happening to small farms and why the farming industry in America is so bad? It's not possible to make a small farm as profitable as a large farm when the large farm feeds cows moldy feed, parts of other dead cows, and rivers of antibiotics. If eminent domain were made a requirement, the result would be that only rich people would ever get land, because more money bankrolling a process makes it more ``economic.''

*That second link doesn't work as I'm writing this. It was amendment three on the ballot, and you can reach the amendment from here and a Google cache link here.