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Re:Why do we need CDs at all?
There is:
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Re:Why do we need CDs at all?
Sort of like this? http://wubi-installer.org/
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Re:Why do we need CDs at all?
Just in case my sarcasm detector is malfunctioning, and seeing as its the second comment I've seen along these lines, here you go.
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Re:Why do we need CDs at all?
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Re:Jack, Ardour, jamin and jazz
I'd actually like more than 16 channels. I have two desks one of which is dedicated to drums, actually come to think of it, a whole 8 channel sound card and room is dedicated to drums. I used to record on 8 channels for a while but the additional flexibility afforded by the additional channels gave me the control over aspects of the sound that I really needed.
May I suggest you try an installation of Wubi? It is the the Ubuntu under windows version of Ubuntu and Ubuntu studio (Try Ubuntu studio - which is quite usable and attractive) and it allows you to keep your existing setup. One thing I would suggest though is to do a disk clean-up and de-fragment before attempting the installation, if you are interested. This should allow you a low risk way to try these things out. Out of interest what multi-input sound interface are you using?
Whatever you do I hope you are enjoying your adventures in sound.
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Wubi?
Seriously though, if you include Cooperative Linux then you get to include most of the Posix/Unix/Linux free-software universe.
But still, I say Wubi is the #1 piece of free software to be had on Windows -- har har har. :P ;)
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Re:The list, for those who don't care about pictur
Hmm, seems they left out Wubi.
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Re:Oh, quit whining
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Re:Limits already built inIt only needs to run one program and then your netbook becomes usable.
Requirements
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Re:A pretty good one, actually
http://wubi-installer.org/ - it will install ubuntu without needing to burn a cd.
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Re:Jaunty Jackalope
Your problem is that you seem to have quoted that out of context.
Except I included the part I was replying to, "You can just download and install it." There much more than simply downloading and install it.
You also make one major error in your argument. You have 4 ways to run it.
What 4 ways are there to run it without installing it? Other than the live disk, those you list still require you install it. There is more than one way to install it though. Do you install a 32 bit or 64 bit version? Do you install the desktop, server, or studio version? Do you install the regular or the alternative way? Maybe you'll do a compleat install by erasing the disk, create partitions and keep the current OS. Or maybe you'll install it in a VM with Wubi in the current OS.
3) Let it install, in which case it will give you the choice of doing everything automatically....
Even an average mom and pop can install it with the third method with very little chance of messing it up, even if they have a dual boot set up.Not if you have uncommon or unusual hardware. Even if you don't it not quite so simple. I hsve a Mac laptop, which are not that uncommon yet if you want the keyboard to work right you have to download and install additional drivers as well as edit a configuration file. Here's a post from someone who had such a problem, "The keyboard backlight on the MacBook 5.1 is not supported as of Jaunty (Ubuntu 9.04) Alpha 5." Now that may of been fixed, but it might not be.
Fact is is I spent a few hours googling on how to install Jaunty Jackalope on my MBP but haven't found anything yet.
Falcon
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Re:Questions from an 8.10 user
Impossible, if you run Wubi.
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Selling points for Linux average people care about
- It's free as in beer.
- Your distro comes loaded with apps that are free as in beer.
- You can try it without giving up Windows.
- It's orders of magnitude more secure against malware than Windows.
- Even if it doesn't have the feature you want right now, community development means it probably will soon.
That last point is most likely the best way to promote the "freedom" side of it that will speak to people who will never see a byte of source code. We may think it's the best part of Linux, perhaps even its very essence, but advertisements should push the pragmatic benefits. I'm inspired by the approach that IBM took in its Linux ad, which should be an example for current efforts. But items #1 and #2 are the most desirable points to typical people, and item #3 makes it feasible to try Linux without doing scary things to your file system.
Also, the advertisements will really be more effective if they point newcomers to a particular distro. Audiences will balk if they decide to try out your product only to find that you're making them do the homework of researching distros first. Ubuntu is the best choice at present, especially considering #3 above.
(And yes, I freely admit I'm talking about what average users want when I myself am a programmer-geek. My guess is as good as anyone's, I suppose.)
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Re:Solution?
Do you mean something like "wget http://wubi-installer.org/latest.php"?
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Wubi
"Wubi allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu as any other Windows application, in a simple and safe way."
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Re:get hacking, guys!
Well, With WUBI, I hear it's a pretty nice install and they can still dual boot, so if it just installed itself that way and set it as the default, people could at least see it, and then if they paid attention at boot they could pick windows instead. Heh.
Does it resize partitions? Most Windows boxes I've seen have one big partition cover the whole drive. Does it copy the home directory over to the new system? How about multiple users? And other files? How much space does it claim? What if the home directory is larger?
We need some serious thinking to make this work.
(Side note: Firefox thinks "resize" is a typo.)
Wubi doesn't need it's own partition, and it doesn't change the bootloader. It runs from one folder in the windows partition. It may only support one user, nor sure about that, but aside from that I've heard its basically identical to a clean install. It can be installed in one click too, so it would be great for this kind of thing (although i don't actually suggest we try that, it would make people think linux was just a virus or something).
But yeah, wubi is neat, I haven't tried it, but the site here explains more: http://wubi-installer.org/
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Re:it's my worm
- Rent a bot net with the worm on it.
- Instruct each zombie to Bittorent and install Wubi.
- ???
- Profit!
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howto make computer run faster
usually i install wubi and with it you get an os without spyware also you escape the win32 virus named microsoft (called by noname antivirus win32.WindoZe)
Other alternatives
http://goodbye-microsoft.com/
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Re:I don't care
Have you EVER seen a Mac in production running on top of a NTFS read-write RAID?
Never. Only on Linux using WUBI.
Btw, does Mac indeed support RAID already?
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maybe they should install wubi by default
i think they should install wubi http://wubi-installer.org/ or
http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
so they can later can recover from such an mess
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Re:New features are irrelivant...
[...]it supports video hardware acceleration for the desktop. I just wish I could find an application to do that on XP.
wubi does just that
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Re:Who cares?
Why do you say "Dual booting was always an ugly hack"?
Two words: filesystem support.
Boot up Linux and all the stuff on your NTFS partition is read-only.
What? You know, Linux has had full NTFS Read/Write support for a while now, see :
http://www.linux-ntfs.org/
Also, ever heard about WUBI ?
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I vote for..
Wubi!
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Re:A curious market
On most machines, 100% of the disk space is partitioned for Windows. Even if 80GB is available, you can't just install Ubuntu on a NTFS partition. And last I heard, Ubuntu's partitioning tools were YMMV. Some people say they worked great, others say they borked their box.
You must not have heard of Wubi http://wubi-installer.org/
No need to partition. It runs under windows, not from the CD.
Enjoy,
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Re:I turned it off
I tried that first for the same reason, but I also found that this latest version is such a CPU hog that, on battery power, my notebook would slow to a crawl. Even unthrottled one of AVG8free's agents will usually be maxing out one of the processors, which means the battery dies after 1 hour of use (down from 3+ hours with normal use).
I've had to go around and remove it from dozens of systems that did the forced update and have been rendered useless because of it.
On the plus side it has encouraged me to do the wubi http://wubi-installer.org/ or set up a linuxVM on every system I own that didn't already have a Linux distro on it.
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Re:Linux has been business-desktop ready for years
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Re:but...
I've actually tested to see if Wubi can start in Wine (the answer is yes, though it depends on the version; rev 507 from http://wubi-installer.org/devel/minefield/ starts) I didn't push the install button though...
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new installI installed a couple of days ago, and everything worked out of the box! samsung printer, belkin wireless card, installed nvidia drivers with no worries, defaulted to 1680x1050 resolution, everything was great. But... the belkin (rt73) drivers seem to be buggy and make the comp slow down really bad, crawl... so I installed the good old serial monkey drivers and everything is good now!
Ubuntu is great, they take bleeding edge debian software and bang it together so it doesn't hurt too much, my only problems are sound stopping inexplicably (ctrl alt backspace fixes this) and strangely nvidia drivers wont let me set the right refresh rate for my monitor when I enable tv-out, which means I am swapping between 2 xorg.conf's to watch movies on the telly or run smooth lcd monitor.
I am doing assignments though, running matlab, open office, gimp, firefox 3 and everything very nicely! Everyone should try it, and if you have any doubts or fears use http://wubi-installer.org/ to install from WITHIN windows!
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WUBI, office Windows Ubuntu Installer
Easy dual-booting with no upsetting windows? Try Wubi. http://wubi-installer.org/ This is the official windows installer for Ubuntu 8.04. It is linked off the (now hard to reach) ubuntu download page. Ubuntu 8.04 supports NTFS read and write.
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wubi
Some quick notes on wubi, since this is Slashdot and it's probably the neatest part of the new release. Wubi has existed for a while but this is the first ubuntu that includes it as part of the distro.
Wubi permits you to install and dork around with ubuntu from within Windows. It has a comfy GUI front-end that creates a virtual partition within a Windows file, sets up the boot manager, downloads Ubuntu and installs it within the virtual partition. Ubuntu then boots and mounts the virtual partition within the Win32 file system. The installed Ubuntu can see the old Win32 file system and optionally read and write it. Windows sees the virtual partitions as a couple large files. And Wubi avoids making any partition changes to the target disk. All pretty cool actually, and significantly lowers the barriers to test-driving Ubuntu. See http://wubi-installer.org/ . -
Already have... any suggestions?
Like the OP, I'm a prospective college student looking for FOSS scholarships. The difference is that I've already released my code, see http://wubi-installer.org/ (collaborative effort, 500,000+ downloads), and http://lubi.sourceforge.net/ (individual effort, 100,000+ downloads). As for revision control, see http://code.launchpad.net/~gezakovacs/ (mostly shellscript+NSIS, but I've recently begun using Qt4 and C++).
So back on topic, what are the best sources for FOSS scholarships? -
Re:Wubi
Looks like you just run setup from Windows and end up with a dual-boot system. http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php. I'll be sticking with VMWare.
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Re:WUBI?
Take a look at http://wubi-installer.org/ and see for your self. Essentially it uses a large file on your windows OS as the file system. When you install it, it modifies your bootloader to give you the option of booting to that machine.
If you decide you don't like it, just reboot into Windows and uninstall it via add/remove programs.
Performance is slightly slower due to the extra hoops your *nix OS has to jump through, but you won't notice if you're running on modern hardware. I liken it to being able to boot to a VMWare image. -
Re:WUBI?
I think it's new enough that there isn't a lot of first-hand experience with it. The FAQ describes it in Alpha, although the download link refers to it as Beta... in any case, my suspicion is that it is likely not very stable yet. You may want to experiment with it on a home PC before putting it on your work laptop.
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For those who DO want a choice
http://wubi-installer.org/
Just try it. -
Re:Just do ....
http://wubi-installer.org/
easy as pie (granted I haven't done it, but its supposed to be slick) -
Re:Less keystrokes
None of those things you quote in your post are necessary anymore.
And as for your last statement, http://wubi-installer.org/ - no partitioning, and it's a real installation. -
Re:Actually...The rest of your comments have no merit. That seems a tad harsh... you must be a hit at parties. It's probably not the way someone should install Linux if they're actually planning on using it as their main setup Wrong. The boot loader manages windows and linux beautifully. It's the best way to use Debian as their main setup too. the whole installation (nearly) is all on one folder in the Windows partition Wrong again. The debian installer should resize the ntfs partition to give Debian disk space. Debian makes this all very easy so you don't need to know if you don't care.
This installer doesn't use Lilo or Grub... at least not in the normal way, and it doesn't touch your partitions at all, either. It installs a virtual disk into a folder on the Windows partition, then adds an entry to the Windows boot loader to boot off of that virtual disk. Once someone has decided that they really want to use Linux, they should have it set up on its own dedicated partition. That way you get regular disk access times, and your whole Linux install doesn't depend on the stability of your NTFS partition. Luckily, there are ways to migrate this type of installation to a regular install.
A tool like this shouldn't be resizing users' partitions, it's against the nature of what this particular tool is. The regular installation programs that every distro comes with can do that. Check out the screenshots here, and also check out the wubi installer. It's exactly the same thing, only installs Ubuntu instead of Debian Etch.
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Comparable projects for UbuntuThere are a series of projects for Ubuntu that interoperate to provide a similar, but more flexible system. If a convert from Windows uses Wubi, they end up with Ubuntu installed as several files in Windows' NTFS filesystem. An Ubuntu boot option is added to Microsoft's ntldr that loopmounts and boots the Ubuntu files. This only incurs a slight performance penalty. If the user choses, they can later use LVPM to migrate their Ubuntu data to its own partition. Alternately, if they dislike Ubuntu they can remove it using Windows standard Add/Remove program facility.
- Lupin, the loop-installer, handles everything that happens after you reboot
- Wubi, the Windows front-end, handles everything that happens before you reboot
- Lubi, the Linux front-end, does basically the same thing as Wubi
- lvpm, Loopmounted Virtual Partition Manager, handles the migration of virtual disks to real partitions
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Re:the win32 debian package
Actually, Wubi is a different concept than the Debian win32-loader, since Wubi uses a loopmounted filesystem (effectively creating a file on the Windows partition, and mounting it as a virtual drive to run Ubuntu). This means that you do not have to go through the partitioning process, but there is also a higher chance that your Wubi install will become corrupted (since it is a nested filesystem rather than a real partition).
The equivalent of the Debian win32-installer for Ubuntu and Fedora would be UNetbootin:
"UNetbootin allows for installation of Ubuntu, Fedora, or Debian to a real partition (so it's no different from a standard install), and uses a standard netboot installation, so internet access is needed. The main advantage is that it creates a standard ubuntu install without needing a CD. This is meant for people who want to install Ubuntu, Fedora, or Debian but don't have a CD-R to burn, lack a CD writer, or they want to install on a computer that doesn't have a CD-ROM drive, like an ultra-portable laptop.
UNetbootin uses a Windows or Linux-based installer to install a small modification to the bootloader (grldr and boot.ini for NT-based systems, grub.exe and config.sys for Win9x, or grub on Linux), uses the bootloader to boot the netboot initrd and kernel, then uses that to download and install Ubuntu directly from the internet, no CD required. After Ubuntu is installed, the modification to the bootloader is then undone."
I've tried both, and can recommend them as good solutions for different purposes. Wubi (and its sister project Lubi for Linux host systems) is a good way to evaluate Ubuntu if you want more than the LiveCD can offer, but do not want to partition your hard drive yet. On the other hand, the Debian win32-loader and UNetbootin are better if you already know what you are doing, and want a permanent GNU/Linux system. -
Re:the win32 debian package
An Ubuntu installer that you could download and double-click on, and that would automatically resize your partitions and leave you with a double-boot system?
Here:
http://wubi-installer.org/
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So many options there.
- Linux on vmware or equivalent
- wubi style installations on a windows partition http://wubi-installer.org/
- USB bootable stick
- this new debian installer
- live cds and cd installers
- network
One might find the debian installer useful in those cases where the keyboard is locked on startup of the live cd, which prevents to choose one grub option. I guess it's an OS vs. BIOS issue at reboot, sometime it helps to reboot after a brief disconnection of the pc from power/battery.
Oh wait
- floppies
I recently had to install on an old server with borked cdrom. I had to install potato through bootfloppies and upgrade up to sarge. Went well but i hope not to do it again ever :) -
Re:2007, the year of linux.
Who knows, but the competition is getting good very quickly indeed.
With Wubi, trialling Linux is now as easy as installing a Windows application.
Wubi+Kubuntu makes switching so very, very easy! -
Re:Ubuntu drive partition
An even easier and less risky way to try Ubuntu is to use Wubi
How does Wubi work?
Wubi adds an entry to the Windows boot menu which allows you to run Linux. Ubuntu is installed within a file in the windows file system (c:\wubi\disks\system.virtual.disk), this file is seen by Linux as a real hard disk. -
Re:Ubuntu drive partition
You might want to try Wubi. It's still beta, but reasonably safe, und you don't have to do Partitioning at all.
http://wubi-installer.org/
BTW: If you install Ubuntu the way one usually installs windows eg: Backup umportant data, Wipe Drive, Install, it is just as easy ;-) -
Re:Moving Target - ntfs-3g
Wubi is an
.exe installer for Ubuntu. It doesn't repartition the drive, it runs off of NTFS. -
Re:meanwhile, out in the world
Nowadays, I just give people a Ubuntu live install to try, I tell them it will probably be a bit slow running of the CD or DVD and to focus on the way it works rather than the speed.
Don't forget Wubi. It's a nice compromise between buttock-clenchingly slow live CDs, and repartitioning
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Re:The sound you hear is...
http://wubi-installer.org/
made the switch almost a month ago (using Wubi just in case I needed to get back into my pre-existing Windows partition), and haven't really looked back since... problems have been minimal, and the user community is generally helpful to the large number of newbies coming over, so long as you don't take a pissy-whiny approach to getting support -
Re:System Requirements
Actually, it can use a Windows-based installer: Wubi
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In fact they had not 1, but 2 offerings for Ubuntu
They were also shipping Wubi
Wubi on windows Marketplace (Google cache)