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Review: K-PAX

The idea that lunatics in asylums are the only really sane people in this crazy world has become a staple of American movies, from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest to Girl Interrupted to K-PAX, a surreal, at-times-charming and curiously detached psychological drama starring Kevin Spacey and Jeff Bridges about the complex relationship between a self-proclaimed alien and an alienated psychiatrist. Spoilage warning: plot is discussed, but not ending. The film is more timely than it could possibly have intended to be.

There is at least one new twist at least in this tattered story line. Spacey's Prot, a visitor from the planet K-PAX, is a healing alien. Picked up by the police after a mugging in New York City, Spacey is - of course - not believed when he says he's from outer space and is tossed into a psychiatric hospital for a month. He tells the skeptical Bridges (Dr. Mark Powers) that he's from another planet. He has no mission, he's just traveling, curious about the odd and destructive behavior of humans and the high quality of their produce.

Powers doesn't believe him at first -- all of his fellow patients instantly believe naturally -- but then becomes curious as Prot proves impervious to even the most powerful anti-psychotic drugs, astonishes astrophysicists with his knowledge of far away solar systems, and begins healing deranged patients who've been confined for years.

Powers brings Prot to his house, with curious results that set the shrink off on a not very believable mission to New Mexico that he hopes will tell him who Prot really is. Along the way, the doc has the battle the usual assortment of impatient, cost-conscious and cynical bureaucrats.

Prot isn't worried about what any human thinks. He blithely insists to his captors that he's soon to head home on a beam of light to a planet where family is both unknown and unnecessary, and that he will take one person -- probably a fellow patient -- with him. This has particular resonance for Dr. Powers, who seems not to notice his gorgeous wife or adorable kids. But Prot's utter, unrelenting cool leaves us detached from the movie as well as him.

Spacey is so ironic and low-key it seems he might well be from another solar system. He has played this kind of ironic character a bit too often, and Prot doesn't come close to the blow-out portrayal of Lester Burnham's suburban bust-up in American Beauty.But tension does build as we get curious about whether he is really an alien or not, and whether or not he will go back to K-PAX. (Also whether Powers will notice his wife and what's-really-important-in-life.)

The ending turns out to be the most inventive part of the movie. It's actually quite ingenuous, leaving people wondering about what they really saw and ought to conclude from it. This is one of those very rare endings that a dozen people can see and draw completely different conclusions from.

And K-PAX is a particularly relevant movie this week, since one of its themes is that we ought to appreciate life while we can. It's pleasant and soothing.

215 comments

  1. Ending not consistent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I dont' want to give it away, but his body remains while the other person's doesn't. What's the deal?

    1. Re:Ending not consistent by grammar+nazi · · Score: 1
      Hey Katz,

      Is the spoilage warning *really* necessary? I mean, you do write weekly movie reviews on Slashdot and the warning is always the same. In addition to that, the warning is nothing out of the ordinary for a typical movie review. We expect the plot to be disscussed without giving away too many details.

      Sigh.

      Sorry if this sounds too negative. I'm just anxious to see Monsters Inc., Harry Potter, and Lord of the Rings. Would Slashdot please post a story or two regarding these three movies?

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    2. Re:Ending not consistent by jfred1 · · Score: 1

      Someone else's idea [universalpictures.com] about the ending

    3. Re:Ending not consistent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      thanks for giving the ending away, loser

    4. Re:Ending not consistent by aka-ed · · Score: 1

      So Prot is an alien. I am glad this was spoiled, as whether Prot's an alien or not is the "dealbreaker" for me. I don't plan on seeing a "sensitive" movie that ultimately reinforces dreamy lunacy. Saved eight bucks!

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  2. whoa by faeryman · · Score: 1

    This is one of those very rare endings that a dozen people can see and draw completely different conclusions from.

    holy crap, i agree with Katz for once?!? no way. regardless i liked the movie.

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  3. Anyone read the books? by jfred1 · · Score: 1

    A couple different ways you can reason it...

    He's not an Alien... She just decided to leave and escaped

    He "possesed" Rober Porters body and used him as a means of healing Dr Marko, making him realize the importance of family... and The other's body was part of Betty's escense and left with her

    I think it's main purpose was to just make you think a little.

    I wonder if the books have a different ending, anyone read them?

    1. Re:Anyone read the books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you could READ THE F*CKING BOOK, and it's SEQUEL, and find out the truth...

    2. Re:Anyone read the books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are the books?

    3. Re:Anyone read the books? by Andy+Social · · Score: 1

      K-Pax, of course. And, the newer one is "On a Beam of Light" with a third supposedly on the way. K-Pax was released in 1995, so don't hold your breath for book #3.

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    4. Re:Anyone read the books? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didn't feel like creating an account - email below. According to Gene in an email I received November 1st, K-PAX III is due out July 2002.

      Films have been done back-to-back . . . apparently these books are/were being written that way.

      thd@po.cwru.edu

  4. Saw it : Ending insteresting, but disappointing. by slashkitty · · Score: 3, Informative
    In the end, Bridges fails to heal even one person. The only thing he might have done is turn this fuctioning alien into a comatose patient. Prot was the only one actually helping people, and his entity took of on a beam of light. While Prot couldn't take his own (borrowed) body with him to k-pax, he could take someone else's.

    The movie is a cute flick, but it is heavy on the dreamy musical scenes and light on a real story.

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  5. But... by spellcheckur · · Score: 4, Funny
    What? Jeff Bridges skeptical about alien life?
    I'm not buying it; he's the Starman!.


    Then again, this is the same director that brought us Angelina Jolie as a l33th4x0r.

    1. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He was also sucked into a computer system and forced to "play games".

  6. Ending Discussion - SPOILER by rosewood · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I saw this movie last night and absolutely loved it. The imagery was so visually intoxicating that I couldn't peal my eyes from the screne. My take on the ending: Prot used Robert's body to actually walk and talk, etc. IE. the form of the soap bubble. Since Prot could sense UV light and had way too much information about the solar system, he could not have just been a super-savant.

    In the end when all the mental patients said that the person on gurney was not Prot was a bit confusing, and the fact that Bess did disapear is interesting.

    However, Robert could have just gone crazy. Robert as a child could have spent countless hours staring into a clear new mexico sky observing and calculating etc. The eye test could have been a mistake or after the near drowning, his eyes could have become very sensative to light, although I doubt sensative to UV.

    All in all - very interesting. I won't lie tho, I just love Kevin Spacy.

    1. Re:Ending Discussion - SPOILER by IpalindromeI · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In the end when all the mental patients said that the person on gurney was not Prot was a bit confusing, and the fact that Bess did disapear is interesting.

      This was meant to give another indication that Prot was just borrowing Robert's body for his visit. The patients, who could look past the mere appearance and "psychosis," could tell that it wasn't Prot, even though the physical body was the same. They understood Prot on a slightly different level than the unbelievers (eg, the psychiatrists), and the movie gives that indication with the discussion about the sunglasses. When Prot leaves to go "up north," the patients know he's coming back because he took his sunglasses, which he wouldn't need on K-PAX. This is intended to be metaphor for the body he's using. He won't need that back on K-PAX, either. And even though it's left behind when he leaves in the end of the movie, the patients can tell it isn't him.

      As to Bess's disappearance, it reinforces Prot's existance. The symptoms of Bess's illness (never talking, and hardly ever moving) do not lend much strength to the theory that she simply broke out of the hospital. Especially due to the statement made earlier by the high-up chairwoman figure when Prot took his short leave, that "people don't break out of this hospital," leading you to believe it has nice beefy security.

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    2. Re:Ending Discussion - SPOILER by PenguinX · · Score: 2

      Something I was curious about, is at the ending when he is beeing wheeled out on the gurney it looks like Robert is in entirely different clothes than Prot was. At first I thought that Prot may just have been another personality that lived inside Robert (the only way to explain the hypnosis), and a very old one at that. However at the end you have Robert, someone who is understandably catatonic wearing different clothes - and (what appears to) not have the UV affliction of the eyes. Easily put this movie was an analysts wet dream because it seems to me that at the ending you are led to believe whatever you want to believe - even though there is evidence that points to something else.

    3. Re:Ending Discussion - SPOILER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sorry, but the UV thing was just ludicrous. If an "alien" were using porter's body, then the physiology of the body would not change...there were other things about the physical body as well...bottom line is that they tried to have it both ways and that does not cut it...bad movie.

    4. Re:Ending Discussion - SPOILER by gregor_b_dramkin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The movie was not consistent enough with *any* of the possible plot lines, much less all of them.

      If Prot was an alien intelligence inhabiting Robert's body -- How did he have UV vision?

      If he was just crazy -- explain the UV vision or talking to the dog.

      If Prot was a completely separate body -- why did he react so emotionally under hypnosis? Why did he freak out about the sprinkler?

      Don't get me wrong -- I really enjoyed the movie. I just wish it had been done with a little more thought to the different scenarios to make them all plausible -- or any of them plausible for that matter.

      I think it could have had a truly great ending like Sixth Sense, where everything up to the end takes on a different meaning. I've seen it 4-5 times. I am amazed at how perfectly equivocal every scene is, while maintaining the appearance of a single plot line.

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  7. Great movie! by Chrios · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I thought K-PAX was a great movie. Compared to the crap I saw this summer, I left thoroughly impressed. What this review leaves out is how funny this movie is. I was laughing all throughout the movie and so was the audience.

    One comment I had to make was on this quote:

    "Spacey's Prot, a visitor from the planet K-PAX, is a healing alien".

    Well not really, he can just see what human treatment leaves out. He never intended to end up in some psychiatric board to help the patients out. He doesn't have some special designation that he is a healing alien. He can just see things differently.

    The rest of the article is pretty accurate. K-PAX has been getting different reviews, many good, some bad. But go see it your self. I highly suggest seeing the movie, you won't regret it.

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    1. Re:Great movie! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you thought the film was good, then I suggest you read the book it's based on, and the book's sequel...

      (HINT: the book has the same name as the film...)

  8. "mistake" by Hard_Code · · Score: 2

    I like how in the preview he says that K-Pax is X of *your* light years away. As if light years was some peculiarly human measurement.

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    1. Re:"mistake" by naoursla · · Score: 1

      the 'year' part of light year is a human peculiarity.

    2. Re:"mistake" by magicslax · · Score: 1

      well?

      how long is a year if you aren't living on earth?

    3. Re:"mistake" by SnicklesTheElf · · Score: 1

      Umm..it is. It's how far light travels in the time it takes the Earth to revolve around the sun once.

    4. Re:"mistake" by CrosseyedPainless · · Score: 3

      You think the Earth-Sun year is some kind of galactic standard? Hell, there are nine major years, and a buttload of minor ones, right here in this solar system.

    5. Re:"mistake" by magicslax · · Score: 1

      blast. beat me to it.

    6. Re:"mistake" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ignoramous! Of course OUR lightyear is distinct, it's based on how far light can go in the time it takes OUR planet to travel around OUR star. Need to think before making some comment that broadcasts your total lack of forethought!

    7. Re:"mistake" by NMerriam · · Score: 2

      As if light years was some peculiarly human measurement.


      Well, do we know of any other species that uses "light-years" as a form of measurement?

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    8. Re:"mistake" by audacity242 · · Score: 1

      Actually, it makes perfect sense. A light year is not a light year. A year is how long it takes a planet to orbit around its sun. So a year for Jupiter is much longer than an Earth year. THus, if there were people on Jupiter, and they were to define light year, it would have a rather different definition than ours.

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    9. Re:"mistake" by FFFish · · Score: 2

      Myself, I prefer to use Uranian lightyears. It makes the stars so much closer!

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    10. Re:"mistake" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      would you say buttload again??

    11. Re:"mistake" by MikeBabcock · · Score: 1

      I have a feeling you don't know what a light-year is. I'll let you look it up on Dictionary.com.

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    12. Re:"mistake" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Duh.

    13. Re:"mistake" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you mean by "our", nitwit? It's MY star, and I allow you to live here at my discretion. So better just keep your nose clean, or I may have to kick some booty.

    14. Re:"mistake" by rkischuk · · Score: 1

      I have a feeling he DOES know.

      light-year also light year (ltyîr)
      n.
      The distance that light travels in a vacuum in one year, approximately 9.46 trillion (9.46 × 1012) kilometers or 5.88 trillion (5.88 × 1012) miles.

      The arbitrary term here is "one year", which means nothing to those from other planets. Even when the definition puts in in more concrete terms, miles and km are still purely human inventions of measure.

      In other words, even if aliens *did* decide to define long distances in terms of the speed of light and time, they wouldn't use Earth years as their measure of time, and they wouldn't know what miles or kilometers were.

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    15. Re:"mistake" by aozilla · · Score: 2

      how long is a year if you aren't living on earth?

      A year is a year no matter what planet you're living on. Do you really think aliens on another planet have a unit of measurement called a "year" which is the amount of time that it takes their planet to circle their sun? Somehow I doubt it.

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    16. Re:"mistake" by Ziviyr · · Score: 1

      Light years avoid the whole kilometer/mile issue.

      Light travels the same speed no matter how big the measurement units are. The numbers will change accordingly, the speed is something of a constant.

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    17. Re:"mistake" by Ziviyr · · Score: 1

      Point is, some planets take longer to swing around their sun than other planets. Hence light will travel different distances within those different time frames and on one planet a light year will be a different distance than a light year on another.

      Even despite the fact that a year is how long a planet take to swing around a star and that light speed is constant.

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    18. Re:"mistake" by cybercuzco · · Score: 2

      At first I thought this too, light travels at a constant speed, so wouldnt light years be universal everywhere? The key is Years. A year is a year only on earth, it is an earth specific. If it was the distance light travels in 10^12 vibrations of a cesium atom or something, then it would be universally constant. Presumably a year on K-PAX is different than earth, so a K-PAXian light year would be a different distance.

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    19. Re:"mistake" by aka-ed · · Score: 1

      Measurement of time and distance is also a "human peculiarity," so far as we know.

      However, saying we did encounter a non-human civilization, they would have a different term for year, i.e. poon. The Poontang peoples would call it a "light-poon" and would presumably know that a "light-year" is different. And that's assuming they spoke "our English" (as opposed to "their English").

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    20. Re:"mistake" by aozilla · · Score: 2

      Even despite the fact that a year is how long a planet take to swing around a star and that light speed is constant.

      A year is not "how long a planet take[s] to swing around a star". A year is "how long the Earth takes to swing around the sun". That's the point I'm making, anyway.

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    21. Re:"mistake" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that a metric buttload, or Imperial?

    22. Re:"mistake" by snowlight-0 · · Score: 0

      Well your point is wrong. A year is exactly what he said it was, "how long a planet takes to swing around a star" when the speed is constant. Pluto has years. It's years are just a lot longer than ours. Had you paid attention in school, perhaps you'd know that and wouldn't look like such a pretentious asshole.

    23. Re:"mistake" by cburley · · Score: 2, Funny
      I like how in the preview he says that K-Pax is X of *your* light years away. As if light years was some peculiarly human measurement.

      No, he was distinguishing between "our" notion of light-years and George Lucas' notion.

      For most humans, a light-year is the distance light travels in a year (almost always Earth's year, of course).

      For George Lucas, based on Hans Solo's comment in Episode IV of the "Star Wars" tritrilogy, a light-year is a measurement of time.

      Since prot must have known he was talking to people who thought he was a loon, and that they might also assume he got his ideas about technical terms from movies like "Star Wars", he made sure they understood he was talking about distance, not time, by saying "your light years" instead of just "light years".

      See, use just one little possibly-redundant word like "your" and you generally avoid confusion and speed up understanding!

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    24. Re:"mistake" by Transcendent · · Score: 0, Troll

      Well recently scientists discovered the the speed of light is not a constant... so why the hell not have it a different speed somewhere else in the universe? It is entirely possible.... skeptics will just rip this notion apart

    25. Re:"mistake" by aozilla · · Score: 2

      year - "The period of time as measured by the Gregorian calendar in which the earth completes a single revolution around the sun"

      I guess The American Heritage Dictionary New College Edition is wrong as well. And dictionary.com too. And Mirriam-Webster Online too.

      Then again, maybe it's just you.

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    26. Re:"mistake" by LMCBoy · · Score: 1

      Eh? Han Solo made the Kessel run in 12 *parsecs*.
      I'm assuming that's the quote you're referring to? Or did Lucas give him another zinger with light years in it?

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    27. Re:"mistake" by cburley · · Score: 1
      Eh? Han Solo made the Kessel run in 12 *parsecs*.

      Thpoilthport!!

      ;-)

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    28. Re:"mistake" by Transcendent · · Score: 1

      Did anybody think that was troll-like?? I don't think it was... just stating a fact and adding my thoughts on it... geez...

    29. Re:"mistake" by GavK · · Score: 1

      Actually, if the kessel run is a sequence of movements, all completed in as short a distance as possible, at a set speed, a parsec is a good *length* to measure it in...

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    30. Re:"mistake" by LMCBoy · · Score: 1

      Indeed, and that's the exactly the kind of mental gymnastics that Lucas's people used to explain the goof post facto.

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  9. Ending by p3d0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I disagree about the ending. It seemed like a ham-handed way to make people think it's ambiguous, but by that point in the movie, I didn't really care any more.

    <SPOILER>
    I thought this was going to turn into a cool story about a person so traumatized by events in his family that he fantasized about a planet without families.

    I thought we had been given clues to this: for instance, if he has to leave at a certain time because of the scheduling of interstellar travel, then why is he leaving exactly five earth years after he arrived? Does everyone in the universe schedule their travel based on earth time?

    However, instead of turning and facing this head-on, they took the easy road and left it ambiguous.
    They could have used the ambiguity in Spacey's character as a way to explore various themes about human nature; but instead, that ambiguity itself is pretty much all there is to this movie.

    Incidentally, Spacey's performance was great. During the hypnosis, he has to portray a wide variety of characters, and he does it very convincingly.
    </SPOILER>

    In short, K-PAX is nothing but a premise: is he an alien or not? I don't need to sit in a theatre for two hours to grasp that premise.

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    1. Re:Ending by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That wasn't much of a spoiler at all.. Could someone actually post a spoiler? The movie's premise is interesting enough for me to want to know what happens, but it looks just "Hollywood-ish" enough so I don't want to see it.

    2. Re:Ending by Chrios · · Score: 1

      I also thought that the "dreamy musical scenes" were very well done and the cinematography was brilliant

      I think your right about the 5 years. But perhaps he scheduled it to be exactly 5 earth years. Remember the movie leaves it open to interpretation about whether he is an alien or not.

      During the hypnosis he only portrays one character, Robert porter, not many.

      The movie is ambiguous throughout the movie to keep you guessing. I like how the movie ended, everyone I talk to has a different take on it.

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    3. Re:Ending by Accipiter · · Score: 2

      if he has to leave at a certain time because of the scheduling of interstellar travel, then why is he leaving exactly five earth years after he arrived? Does everyone in the universe schedule their travel based on earth time?

      So let me ask you a question. You live in New York and you go to China. While you're in China, are you going to plan your entire trip around United States Eastern Standard time? Of course not. You say "I'm going to leave China next Wednesday at 2AM." You say 2AM, but you mean 2AM locally - in China.

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    4. Re:Ending by BlueGecko · · Score: 1

      I have to disagree with you a bit, because I thought the ending was entirely unambiguous. It seemed, to me as if Prot was in fact truly an alien and truly a friend of Robert, merely occupying his body for a bit to take care of it and get Robert some help. What he did, why he came back, had a lot to do with simply getting Robert to an appropriate facility. One there, he left it, knowing that it would be well cared-for in the ward. It fits in perfectly with the rest of the movie: it explains his knowledge of space, his ability to see things that are beyond human range, his ability to simply disappear for a few days, as well as why, even in deep hypnosis, he continued to insist he was Prot. (While I don't know for sure, it would strike me that in hypnosis it shouldn't have been that hard to unearth the other personality if it were a multiple personality disorder, although this may be more of a technical flaw than anything else.) It also explains why Bes went away, and explains Spacey's statement near the end that "...But now that you've found Robert, take care of him," or however that line went specifically.

      Anyway, that was my interpretation, and I think it explains everything quite well. All you have to do is accept that Prot has ulterior (but nevertheless very good) motives, and there you are.

    5. Re:Ending by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course, if you'd READ THE BOOK FIRST, then you would have had no reason to think that.

      The book's been out for years now.

      As usual, it follows the book/movie rule: If the book was written before the movie was made, the book is better, and if the movie was made before the book was written, the film's better. In this case THE BOOK IS MUCH BETTER, and THERE'S A SEQUEL available in paperback in the U.K.

    6. Re:Ending by Bedouin+X · · Score: 1

      I think the point is that NYC and China have relative time intervals. One hour in NYC is one hour in China. When you are dealing with interstellar entities, the whole concept of time changes since (assuming that everyone acts as we do) time is measured by the positioning and behavior of celestial bodies (orbit, rotation, distance from light source, etc.). What the hell does 5 Earth years equal in K-Paxian time?

      For Prot to say that he is leaving in precisely 5 Earth years and then insinuate that this is because of conditions on K-Pax is a little unbelievable because the time reference from which his measurement is made has little bearing on the place that he is going.

      Of course we know that the real answer to this is that the whole "5 year" thing gives our hero reason to travel across the country and deliver a bit of important exposition.

      Lots of good Astronomy in this one.

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    7. Re:Ending by p3d0 · · Score: 1
      Of course, if you'd READ THE BOOK FIRST, then you would have had no reason to think that.
      I'm not sure if you're saying that I should have read the book. If so, it seems pretty lame that a movie can't stand on its own.
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    8. Re:Ending by CleverNickName · · Score: 4, Interesting

      ...why is he leaving exactly five earth years after he arrived? Does everyone in the universe schedule their travel based on earth time?

      Things like this happen in SF all the time. We would like to stay away from an "Earth-centric" view of things, but the people paying to see this movie are from Earth, and it's easier for them to grasp an Earth year, than it is to grasp a Jovian year, or a k-paxian year. Ultimately, it really doesn't matter to the vast majority of the audience, and, as a filmmaker, you'd rather have your audience ponder your film's (hopefully) deeper meanings, not how long a year was.

    9. Re:Ending by p3d0 · · Score: 1

      So why mention the scheduling thing at all? Why not come up with some other reason for the five-year stay?

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    10. Re:Ending by sehryan · · Score: 1

      because only us dorks on slashdot are going to get in a discussion about this meaningless little bit of triva with the movie.

      in other news, could it be that in exactly five years, the earth is in the same place in the sky as it is now, with the same side of earth pointing the same direction, and maybe in five years, k-pax is in the same place in the sky as it is now, with the same side of k-pax pointing the same direction. because you don't know k-pax's rate of rotation or revolution, you have no idea if this is valid. so why don't we agree that prot knows a lot more about it than we do, being that he knows both sides of the equation, and move on with our lives.

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    11. Re:Ending by p3d0 · · Score: 2

      <SPOILER>
      You're right of course. That wasn't meant to be a nitpick. I was just giving it as an example of why I thought the movie would end with a definite indication that Prot was not an alien.

      Of course there may be reasons that it makes sense anyway: perhaps round-trip interstellar travel is always timed according to the destination's schedule. Who knows.
      </SPOILER>

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    12. Re:Ending by cwebster · · Score: 1

      >why is he leaving exactly five earth years after he arrived? Does everyone in the universe schedule their travel based on earth time?

      you forget that an earth year is not an arbitrary unit of time we just made up, but happens to coincide with the earth revolving around the sun. Is it to much to believe that his travel has something to do with the position of the earth and his home planet and possibly other objects?

    13. Re:Ending by Quila · · Score: 2

      if he has to leave at a certain time because of the scheduling of interstellar travel, then why is he leaving exactly five earth years after he arrived? Does everyone in the universe schedule their travel based on earth time?

      Why not? Maybe the Earth's position at a certain point in its orbit was at the optimim angle/whatever for travel to Earth. That makes a lot of sense since we use orbit position to plan our space missions. So it would be logical to say "I'll be back in five Earth revolutions."

    14. Re:Ending by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember how long it took for For Prefect to hitch a ride?

    15. Re:Ending by richie2000 · · Score: 3, Funny
      He was probably just on a five-year mission.

      (Yes, you may groan now. Go ahead, it'll make you feel better)

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  10. I wouldn't say rare by SevenTowers · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Now I will get flamed for this.

    -The ending turns out to be the most inventive part of the movie. It's actually quite ingenuous, leaving people wondering about what they really saw and ought to conclude from it. This is one of those very rare endings that a dozen people can see and draw completely different conclusions from. -

    I can't agree that this type of ending is rare. In fact it is rare in American cinema (compared to the mass of movies the country produces, I'm not saying there aren't any) but loads of european, asian, south american and even a few african movies display such a type of ending. Because the majority in North America just want to hear THX sound and see big guns and endings which you can guess at the beginning of the movie, doesn't mean that it's the same everywhere.
    Just my opinion though.

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    1. Re:I wouldn't say rare by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since when is he a troll for ssaying something that is arguably true? Have a look as other cinema and see what SevenTowers said is by and by, quite correct.

      See you in meta-mod

    2. Re:I wouldn't say rare by cburley · · Score: 1
      Because the majority in North America just want to hear THX sound and see big guns and endings which you can guess at the beginning of the movie, doesn't mean that it's the same everywhere.

      I don't watch movies much anymore, and really can't say, even as an American, whether you're wrong or right...

      ...but is it possible your conclusion is incorrect?

      Is it possible that what you claim about "the majority in North America" is in fact true about the majority of movie-goers worldwide?

      Is it possible that such a clarified view would explain why American-made "Hollywood" movies are (I gather) so immensely popular outside of the USA as well as inside (and some of the most obvious examples of what you characterize as "big guns and endings which you can guess" seem to do even better outside the US than in, e.g. certain Schwarzenegger movies during the '90s, if I have my facts correct)?

      Is it possible that your conclusion is jumped to simply because American movie-makers happen to be the most successful at catering to a largely worldwide demand for a certain type of big-budget movie, leaving the making of more ambiguous, artful, lower-budget works to others?

      And is it possible that those "others" either lie directly in the shadow of Hollywood in the US, and thus don't get much notice at all, or operate as pretty much the only movie-makers in countries other than the US, in which case their existence is celebrated as a variant of nationalistic fervor?

      Sure, I'd guess that Americans tend to prefer "bigness" in their movies moreso than those in certain other countries, but that'd be only a guess, and I'm not saying it's even close to a "majority".

      But it doesn't necessarily follow that, because most big-budget Hollywood-type movies are made in Hollywood or the USA generally, the majority of Americans must necessarily prefer them to other types of movies. The global trading that goes on in the arena of movie-making seems sufficient to allow for a great deal of fluidity between a particular nation's peoples' desires for a certain sort of movie and its own movie-makers' willingness and ability to produce just that sort of movie.

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  11. Re:Saw it : Ending insteresting, but disappointing by nacks1 · · Score: 1

    What about healing himself? That was one of the major themes. Prot at on point mentions this.

  12. Light on real story? by Chrios · · Score: 1

    I thought that the story progressed in a normal manner for a movie with a more relaxed tone. It's over 2 hours long and i didn't get bored. Ever scene added to the story. If you thought this was light on story, you must be really bored in most films.

    I also thought that the "dreamy musical scenes" were very well done and the cinematography was brilliant.

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    1. Re:Light on real story? by slashkitty · · Score: 1

      Well, I did say it was interesting, more interesting then most films, but disappointing. The whole part about tracking down what had happened to prot 5 years ago does nothing to help prot get better. The end is just depressing. Except for the rich, well off doc, is finally talking to his son again. Big deal. Why did he stop talking to him in the first place? The doc is just a big self centered jerk, and only crazy people where doing anything useful.

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  13. better reviews by zoombah · · Score: 1

    not a troll, but there are certainly better reviews out there. Check out salon for an honest review that goes beyond plot summary. As always, rotten tomatoes has a plethora of opinions. Remember, there's more than Katz out there (thank god)

  14. Hey katz... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...there's already a good review of this on Slashdot here.

  15. the alley between moderators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A good number of people must use AC because of the awful moderators. That said. . .

    Thanks for the review. But why always popular film? It's like reviewing N-Sync every week.
    Why not:

    L.I.E.
    Amores Perres
    Waking Life

    Just a few examples. Much more substance, much more to talk about. I never understood why the educated tech community just falls down walking to the arts.

  16. Wow by Cheesy+Fool · · Score: 0

    What a great review.

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  17. Merging face scene... by jfred1 · · Score: 1

    How did people interpret the scene where there faces are "merge" in the window when Dr Mark sees Prot for the first time?

    1. Re:Merging face scene... by Skragger · · Score: 1

      I noticed this but forgot about it. This is certainly an interesting twist in a brilliant script that leaves a million people with differing opinions, all supported by the story.

    2. Re:Merging face scene... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought (afterwards) that prot was seeing the wrong way through the one way mirror. If it was a one way mirror? It wasn't really very clear, maybe it was just a nice visual effect. have to rent the dvd now :-)

    3. Re:Merging face scene... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i think the merging faces scene wasn't there as a heavy handed attempt to make kevin spacey and jeff bridges' characters connect -- i think they were trying to show that a human couldn't see through the "mirror," but prot could.

  18. Lunatics? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why not have RMS starring? But on the other hand, he is not by any means at all a sane person.

  19. What happens after the credits? by stripes · · Score: 3, Interesting

    During the credits the theater turned up the lights, so I couldn't read them very well. Nor could I really tell what happened after the credits ended and they showed about 15 more seconds of someone (Bridges?) doing something.

    What was it?

    (The theater claimed it was a MD state law that they had to turn on the lights when people start leaving. I don't know how long they have been doing it, I hadn't seen new movies in MD for a while...and I may decide never to again!)

    1. Re:What happens after the credits? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      the good doctor (Bridges) was in his back yard at night. The short scene starts looking at the stars. You then realize it's the doctor looking. He slowly goes back towards his house as the camera pans away, but he's smiling and looking at the stars... Gives the impression that he believes, or wants to believe, that prot is up there...

    2. Re:What happens after the credits? by LMCBoy · · Score: 1

      The interesting part of this final scene is that they used an actual starfield in the shot! In almost every Hollywood through-the-eyepiece shot I've ever seen, it's some fake field of view.

      This one was of the constellation Taurus, including the Pleiades. Nice!

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  20. lame by heff · · Score: 1

    k-pax was a cross between bicentennial man, patch adams, girl interrupted,and every retarded robin williams film since good morning vietnam.

    it was entirely way too over dramatized and hollywood-like for me.

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  21. Sillyness. by Hey_bob · · Score: 1

    Ok, did anyone notice if Prot was wondering around with a towel at all?

    (Sorry, hopeing for a Hitchhikers Guide reference in the movie.)

    1. Re:Sillyness. by Ryan_Terry · · Score: 1

      No, unfortunately no towel.. But he DID wear a pretty cool pair of sunglasses. But alas, no HGTG references.

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  22. Ending was typical and ininventive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just like Katz.
    Seriously, I predicted the ending about 25% of the way through the film. It was a decent movie, but not anything unique.

  23. Movies to see by TheStruuus · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I saw the 13 ghosts instead of kpax.. and boy was i rewarded.. I saw a nipple..

    1. Re:Movies to see by jfred1 · · Score: 1

      I saw 13 ghosts friday... there was more then a nipple... there was the crazy lady, naked, knife welding ghost.

  24. Doesn't answer my question... by Sarcasmooo! · · Score: 2

    The only thing I'm wondering about this movie, after seeing the commercials with Spacey reading an animals mind, is whether or not this is another stupid 'extraordinary human/alien does corny magic tricks for audience' movie. When's the last time a movie with any mention of aliens, portrayed them in any sort of psychological way? If I were to believe hollywood, I would say that most alien lifeforms are pretentious freaks who should be immediately enslaved and forced to serve as interpreters to more interesting species; such as dolphins. What movie bothers to explain how or why most alien life has been given the powers of superman? Or how their superior minds somehow overcame the violent tendencies they charge us with; instincts that would've initially been necessary for the survival of their species (evolution is a dangerous road). Anyway, enough rambling. A good alien movie would be 90% exploration of life and culture on an alien planet, with the final 10% showing the arrival of freakish humans in a roving '4-wheeler'.

  25. Re:Ending (MAJOR SPOILERS!) by Carbonite · · Score: 3, Insightful


    Although there is a good deal of ambiguitity some things are quite set.

    - Prot can see ultraviolet light. Humans cannot see ultraviolet light. Thus, Prot is not human. While Prot inhabited the body of Robert, he had access to special abilities. These abilties didn't stay with Robert once Prot left.

    - Prot had astronomical knowledge that would have been impossible without him being from K-PAX. The suggestions given in the movie were that he looked it up (it hadn't been published), he was a savant (he didn't have access to the necessary equipment), or even that he was a missing astrophysicist (he would have been recognized by his colleagues).

    So it is nearly certain than an alien (Prot) was present in Robert's body until he left for K-PAX. It is extremely unlikely that Prot actually was Robert since near the end Prot spoke as if he was not Robert and he showed no signs of ever lying throughout the movie.

    So while his motivations for coming in the first place or returning can be debated, it does seem to be a fact that Prot was alien.

    carbonite

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  26. why "warning" ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Spoilage NOTE not warning, since presumably
    you try not to reveal too much.

  27. Sequel soon? by Schemer · · Score: 2, Informative

    I was looking around on amazon.com and noticed that Gene Brewer, who wrote the K-PAX novel, already has written a sequel named On a Beam of Light . There's an excerpt there also, but if you havent seen or read K-PAX yet, stay away, since it will spoil the ending.

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    1. Re:Sequel soon? by Schemer · · Score: 1

      Hate to reply to my own post, but...

      Take a look at http://www.genebrewer.com/ for more info on the K-PAX trilogy, the movie and the author of the novel.

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  28. Absolutely horrible by nvembar · · Score: 1, Flamebait
    I am going to ignore the offense I usually take at Slashdot posting movie reviews and reply to this one.


    This was an absolutely horrible movie with exactly one moment of inventiveness (see below). There was absolutely nothing that wasn't predictable, cliche, simplistic, and saccharine. Every person who came on screen with more than a few lines had their problems magically solved by prot in the most inane way possible. Work too much? Guess what, you'll come to appreciate your family! Have an estranged son mentioned in all of two scenes? I wonder if he'll be estranged by the end of the movie? Have OCD? Magic Jesus-analogue Kevin Spacey will make it all better.


    I truly can't believe anyone actually enjoyed this movie.


    As for the one inventive moment, it came at the end of the movie, as Jeff Bridges runs in slow motion to beat a digital countdown. The reason I consider this inventive is that the creators of K-PAX managed to throw in a completely unexpected movie cliche into a movie built entirely on other cliches. Note that I didn't put spoiler space around this because it was in the trailer.


    My full review will appear sometime early in the week at Revolution SF. It will be more coherent than the above, which was written out of sheer shock in seeing someone think that there was actually something original about K-PAX.

  29. re: one flew over cockoo's nest by oldays · · Score: 1

    Where the hell does that movie say that normal people are more fucked up then crazy people?

  30. You don't want to give it away, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You don't want to give it away, but... YOU JUST DID. Moron.

  31. New Review by Accipiter · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I hate to beat up a Katz review...(well, no, not really.), but I have to wonder what qualifies him as a movie reviewer? Bad grammar, inaccuracies, and the like seem to say "Hey, don't take this seriously."

    Spacey's Prot, a visitor from the planet K-PAX, is a healing alien.

    No, he's not. He even states that every being in the universe is capable of healing itself.

    Picked up by the police after a mugging in New York City

    ...a mugging in which he did not participate...

    He tells the skeptical Bridges (Dr. Mark Powers)

    This is probably over-analyzing semantics, but prot doesn't tell Bridges jack shit. The actor's real name belongs in the parenthesis, while the character's name - in this case, Dr. Mark Powell is the person with whom prot is conversing.

    ...and begins healing deranged patients who've been confined for years.

    Again, he doesn't heal them. He merely shows them the path to heal themselves.

    Powers brings Prot to his house, with curious results that set the shrink off on a not very believable mission to New Mexico that he hopes will tell him who Prot really is.

    I'm not entirely sure what this is supposed to mean.

    This is one of those very rare endings that a dozen people can see and draw completely different conclusions from.

    That just proves that the Katz writing style is sophomoric at best.

    Anyway, K-PAX is a great movie. prot (Kevin Spacey) is taken to a Psychiatric institute after having told New York police officers how bright the light is on Earth. Early in the movie, prot is introduced to Dr. Mark Powell (Jeff Bridges) who takes an immediate interest in his case. Eventually, prot has Powell, the staff of the institute, fellow patients, and top astrologers totally puzzled as to his true identity.

    K-PAX is said to lie about a thousand light-years from Earth (within the constellation Lira), and is where prot calls home. This story is obviously met with a certain amount of skepticism from the people of Earth, and the point of the movie is to work through that skepticism. By the end, the audience will draw vastly different conclusions regarding the story's ending, and it is these conclusions that give insight into each person's individuality.

    (Oh, and "prot" isn't supposed to be capitalized. That's how it works on K-PAX. :)

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    1. Re:New Review by FFFish · · Score: 1

      I kind of treat Katz like a horrific car accident: I know I'm going to be horrified by it, but I look at it anyway.

      I'm always stunned that someone with such poor writing skills and no real insights or originality can get *paid* to be a reporter. My god, my skills are at least an order of magnitude more refined than his, and I'm pretty sure I beat him on intelligence, but no one's off paying me to write trite pap!

      Dammit, maybe I should start sending out resumes. But, then... there wouldn't be any more car accidents to view on Slashdot.

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    2. Re:New Review by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want to criticize someone on details, be careful of your own. If you're going to make a deal about the capitalization of Prot's name (even though official literature from Universal disagrees with you), you might want to consider your capitalization of "Psychiatric," especially when preceeded by "a." Also, you may want to look at your use of "astrologer," rather than "astronomer": very different connotations. Heck, even Katz got that right--except, he used "astrophysicist"--even if he got the plurality wrong in the same sentence.

      All in all, though, I agree; the review had many faults on both technical and conceptual levels. Seems like Katz had an idea he wanted to push regardless of the film rather than describing ideas the film itself might push.

    3. Re:New Review by DaRkJaGuaR · · Score: 1

      thankyou for a fantastic collection of nitpickings.

  32. Does everyone in the universe schedule their trave by Nasser · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It makes sense to me why he would have to leave x number of years to the day and minute. Perhaps his beam of light has to wait until the Earth is realigned with whatever light-path he took? So it must take 5 revolutions around the sun for his lightpath to reconnect to K-Pax. Just a thought :-)

    >>Does everyone in the universe schedule their travel based on earth time?

  33. Hitchhiker's Guide by Nasser · · Score: 1

    Hey I though they were working on a Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy movie. I don't know if it's still in the works or not since Douglas Adams died :-(

    1. Re:Hitchhiker's Guide by burbs · · Score: 1

      You can probably go to the video store and check out the BBC series. As for a new one, Upcomingmovies.com confirms that they're not sure if the movie, due in 2002, has started filming yet, or will even come out.

  34. "pleasant and soothing"? by rpowers · · Score: 1

    Did the reviewer stay for the end of the movie? The ending was damned disturbing. If you're looking for pleasant and soothing, see something else, or skip the ending.

  35. hmmm? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0



    Fisher-king + Starman = K-PAX

  36. Light years are specific of earth by cteubner · · Score: 1

    The speed of light is a constant. A "year" isn't - it's the time it takes our planet to go once around the Sun.

  37. Re:Ending (MAJOR SPOILERS!) by martyn+s · · Score: 1

    About the whole UV thing. Even if an alien did inhabit a human body, he would still only have access to *human* photoreceptors while using this human body. Human photoreceptors cannot detect UV light, no matter who's looking through them. But this brings the whole idea of "inhabiting someone else's body" into question, and spoiling all the fun. Whatever.

  38. Watch the movie Read the BOok! by Technosteve! · · Score: 1

    i haven't seen the movie and i don't think i will till i go see and iron monkey and troll the movies to full fill the 8.50 i had to pay to get in. wee. i read the book i think this movie was based of about five years ago.. the book was based of a psychology case study about a person that saw the world to alien to him. like the movie he though he was an alien. but the kicker is that in his world having sex was very painfull, the parents kick out the kids at a young age from the home. on the planet of k-pax i think, there is no property no one owns any thing. it was intresting book and it was short. you can read it in one sitting. the ending is sad he tells every one that he is going home on a certain day. on that day the docters can't find him in the psych building they find him in the basement naked in the fetal postion and half dead. my memory isn't that good so most of this post could be a construction of my own mind.

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  39. Re: one flew over cockoo's nest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    where the normal people zapped the crazy people's brains.

  40. You might want to do the same by Indomitus · · Score: 1

    You might want to look up lightyear on that link you just posted. It says that a lightyear is the distance light travels in a year. A year is a human construct based on the time it takes our planet to go around our sun. Beings from another planet wouldn't use the lightyear since it's only relevant to our planet. Like another posted said, Uranian lightyears would be a measurement of a vastly different amount of distance since Uranus takes so long to go around our sun.

    1. Re:You might want to do the same by aka-ed · · Score: 1

      Here's what you are not getting. "Light-year" is English, and means a set number of miles in English, however provincial the etymology. Saying "your light-years" is like saying "your miles." Hey, if we are gonna speak english with the Poontangians, they are going to have something other than miles and years to deal with. There will be conversion tables, presumably, but if we have any intimacy with these people, they won't say "your miles" and "your light-years." The "your" is redundant.

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    2. Re:You might want to do the same by Loligo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      >Hey, if we are gonna speak english with the
      >Poontangians, they are going to have something
      >other than miles and years to deal with. There
      >will be conversion tables, presumably, but if we
      >have any intimacy with these people, they won't
      >say "your miles" and "your light-years."
      >The "your" is redundant.

      Not necessarily.

      While they may not measure distance in miles, or time in years, "light year" DOES mean "the distance light travels in the time it takes the Earth to make one orbit of the Sun".

      Hence, their home planet WILL have an equivalent measurement, it may just not be one measured in a "year" or "miles".

      But there WILL be a unit equal to the distance light travels in the time it takes THEIR planet (Poontangia? When's the next flight?) to make one orbit of THEIR sun.

      Hence, "your light-year" is correct. "Their light-year" will be more or less (well, there's a CHANCE it's not, but let's be realistic...), but the unit DOES exist.

      -l
      ...shaking his head because he said "let's be realistic" in this discussion...

    3. Re:You might want to do the same by aka-ed · · Score: 1
      Let's try this one more time. A European, speaking with an American, might say "your miles" and "my kilometers," but the "your" and "my" are redundant. It's understood that "miles" and "kilometers" are measurements in different systems.

      In interplanetary communications, I believe we can safely assume that English-language terms "miles" and "light-years" would be exclusive to our "Earthian" measurement system. Others may have a measurement roughly analagous to "our" light-year, but who would use the term "light-year" to refer to it? If they call a year a theqq and call Light narr, it would be a narr-theqq. So would we have to say "your" narr-theqq? I don't think so. A narr-theqq is a narr-theqq, a light-year, a light-year.

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    4. Re:You might want to do the same by Loligo · · Score: 2


      Well, you DID mention that we would be communicating in English. I'm unaware of any English dialect that uses "narr" and "theqq" for "light" and "year", but IANAL (linguist).

      Hence, their narr-theqq would translate to light-year. Your and their would have to be used to designate which concept we're referring to.

      Sure, if we use the native terms of narr-theqq and light-year distinctly from each other, the "your" and "their" would be unnecessary, but if we're translating into our own native languages, as you clearly stated, the "your" and "their" would be required.

      Get it?

      -l
      ...who still can't believe he got drawn into such a pedantic argument on /.

    5. Re:You might want to do the same by aka-ed · · Score: 1

      I get it. But, taking the assumption that they ever did decide to use the completely artificial means of measuring distance by light's travel in a year (if you think of it, an absurdly arbitrary measure), we would not translate their "theqq" as year, it would be a Poontang-year. Hence, their narr-theqq would be a light-poontang-year in English though, out of courtesy, I expect we would adopt narr-theqq in conversation (and we would probably include a table of their measurement system in the next dictionaries, with our best phonetic equivalents to their words).

      Or we could just stick to parsecs.

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    6. Re:You might want to do the same by Loligo · · Score: 2

      >Or we could just stick to parsecs.

      Wait, would those be our parsecs or..

      Oh, nevermind.

      [grin]

      -l

    7. Re:You might want to do the same by eAndroid · · Score: 1

      ok ok ok ok.

      In the movie prot says, "your light-year" (emphasis mine). There, now you two can quit because it doesn't matter.

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    8. Re:You might want to do the same by jcast · · Score: 1

      ...who still can't believe he got drawn into such a pedantic argument on /.

      It isn't a pedantic argument--it's a basic philosophical disagreement. One side takes a very modernist approach, arguing that exactness trumps understanding. This is the attitude that brought us the spellings ``Sioux'', and ``through'' and ``slough''. This is the side that insists on transliterating ``narr'' and ``theqq'' into English, rather than translating them.

      The other side takes a Medievalist approach. This approach favors understanding over exactness. This attitude brought us King Arthur and his court (Arthur lived, if at all, several hundred years before the social institutions associated with him evolved). This side insists on translating ``narr'' and ``theqq'' as ``light'' and ``year'', distinguishing ``our'' and ``their'' light-years.

      I leave which attitude is more generally useful as an excersize for the reader (it is a philosophical conflict, after all.)

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    9. Re:You might want to do the same by jcast · · Score: 1
      Or we could just stick to parsecs.


      From dictionary.com:

      parsec (pärsek) n.

      A unit of astronomical length based on the distance from Earth at which stellar parallax is one second of arc and equal to 3.258 light-years, 3.086 × 1013 kilometers, or 1.918 × 1013 miles.


      So, even a parsec is arbitrary (why a second? why the distance from Earth?)

      Come to think of it, all units of distance are ``completely artificial''--and completely necessary.

      I think that should settle this discussion. Then again, I think the solution to this discussion was obvious from the beginning, so what I think obviously has no bearing on reality :)
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    10. Re:You might want to do the same by Kuad · · Score: 1

      why the distance from Earth?
      Well, it could the distance from anywhere. It's just one second of arc that makes the difference. A parsec would be the same distance if measured from Sirius or Sol.

      why a second?
      That's one second of arc. It's not really related to the measurement of time. It is kind of arbitrary that we break a circle into 360 degrees and 60 minutes and 60 seconds though, so your point stands.

    11. Re:You might want to do the same by Loligo · · Score: 2

      >Come to think of it, all units of distance are ``completely artificial''

      There's got to be a unit of [ distance / time / mass / volume ] we can devise that's not completely artificial in the sense that it can be used to meaningfully measure something across cultural (even planetary or galactic) boundaries.

      Mass would be the trickiest, I would assume, since we base it on the effect local gravity has upon the object being measured.

      Our time is based upon local planetary cycles, so becomes largely meaningles to someone with a longer or shorter orbit around their local star. However, on a non-physical communication medium (radio, microwave, laser) we can express a unit of time ("From this beep to this beep...").

      Volume is also double-edge, since it relies on units of distance and a way to express them in three dimensions.

      It seems distance is the easiest starting point, since on a probe or other physical object another culture might acquire we can illustrate one Foo, and use simple pictograms to express that there are ten Foos to a Bar (more during rush week, but I digress...).

      It all comes from finding a common stating point. If we can start with time, we can come up with distance (distance being expressed as how far light travels in x time, back to the light-year concept). If we start with distance, we can express time (how long it takes light to travel x distance). From these we can express volume, then the trick comes down to expressing mass.

      All of these constructs are still completely artificial and arbitrary, though.

      I don't know enough chemistry or physics to know if we could somehow use expressions involving subatomic particles (which one would EXPECT to be relatively constant, right?) to express a starting point for mass, but then we're back to how to illustrate the other ideas.

      I'm glad this isn't MY problem to solve...

      -l

    12. Re:You might want to do the same by aka-ed · · Score: 1

      Thanks for ennobling our trivial discussion! Makes me feel better for participating, somehow...

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    13. Re:You might want to do the same by LMCBoy · · Score: 1

      The parsec is just as specific to Earth as the light year is. In this case, the parallactic "wobble" of a nearby star is in response to the Earth's motion around the Sun. If the earth had a larger orbit, the star would appear to wobble more, and a parsec would be a longer distance.

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    14. Re:You might want to do the same by LMCBoy · · Score: 1

      You're confusing mass with weight. Even in zero gravity, objects have mass. You can define mass independently of the local gravitational field using inertia. That is, the harder it is to get something moving (or to stop something that's moving), the more mass it has.

      Time is simpe to define in a standard way that isn't specific to the motions of the planets in our solar system. For example, you can define "one second" to be 9,192,631,770 oscillations of a cesium-133 atom, since all cesium-133 atoms in the Universe behave in exactly the same way (a statement of the Cosmological Principle). In fact, this is the basis for modern timekeeping with atomic clocks. Heck, even your wristwatch uses a conceptually similar oscillating quartz crystal to keep time.

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    15. Re:You might want to do the same by Loligo · · Score: 2


      ?You're confusing mass with weight. Even in zero
      >gravity, objects have mass. You can define mass
      >independently of the local gravitational field
      >using inertia. That is, the harder it is to get
      >something moving (or to stop something that's
      >moving), the more mass it has.

      Well, except that around these here parts, we measure mass by weight, for convenience's sake.

      >Time is simpe to define in a standard way that >isn't specific to the motions of the planets in
      >our solar system. For example, you can
      >define "one second" to be 9,192,631,770
      >oscillations of a cesium-133 atom

      I figured there was something like that. That's pretty cool. Thou art more chem-literate than I. Way more. But since I never got around to it in school, most people are. Still cool though.

      >Heck, even your wristwatch uses a conceptually >similar oscillating quartz crystal to keep time

      Actually I use my pager for a timepiece since the battery died in my watch and I never got around to fixing it, but your point is still taken. Heh.

      -l

    16. Re:You might want to do the same by LMCBoy · · Score: 1

      >Actually I use my pager for a timepiece since
      >the battery died in my watch and I never got
      >around to fixing it, but your point is still
      >taken. Heh.

      In that case, you are using an atomic clock to keep time, albeit indirectly. :)

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  41. So is this a remake of Man Facing Southeast? by Microsift · · Score: 1
    Will someone who has seen both film's please comment? I don't get out to the movies anymore, so if I see this movie it will be on Video, but it looks similar to a foreign film, Man Facing Southeast

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    1. Re:So is this a remake of Man Facing Southeast? by kaisermike · · Score: 1

      K-Pax makes reference to it being based on this movie, but I haven't seen the Spanish film to say for sure.

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    2. Re:So is this a remake of Man Facing Southeast? by vena · · Score: 1

      K-PAX is as much a "remake" of Man Facing Southeast as Atlantis was a "remake" of Nadia. that is, as long as you think of "remake" as "rip-off."

    3. Re:So is this a remake of Man Facing Southeast? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly: remake ~ ripoff.
      Yes, this is a rip-off, with the regular hollywood sugar-coating. check out "man facing southeast", it's probably at your local blockbuster.

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    4. Re:So is this a remake of Man Facing Southeast? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Man Facing Southeast has brains...I can't imagine K-Pax being anything worth thinking about.

    5. Re:So is this a remake of Man Facing Southeast? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MFS is an Argentinian Film

    6. Re:So is this a remake of Man Facing Southeast? by RichMan · · Score: 1

      I have not seen K-Pax yet, but Man Facing Southeast was glorious. And from the adds K-Pax seems to be a Hollywoodized (complete with special effects) version of Man Facing Southeast. So please if you like K-Pax take the time to find Man Facing Southeast.

  42. Re:Ending (MAJOR SPOILERS!) by djmoore · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Prot can see ultraviolet light. Humans cannot see ultraviolet light. Thus, Prot is not human.

    Actually, it's my understanding that humans can see ultraviolet if they've had their lenses removed, for instance if they've had cataract surgery. The trick is that the lens has a slight yellowish cast to it that filters UV.

    It's said that during WWII, OSS parachute drops were made to targets laid out with UV beacons, using post-cataract-surgery spotters.

    As far as K-Pax goes, this is another nail in the idea that an alien could take over a human and see in UV; the requisite wavelengths wouldn't even reach the retina.

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  43. OT: your .sig [was Re:Ending] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I found the secret of life! But forgot to write it down...

    i wrote it down but was too drunk to write it legibly-
    http://www.blackant.net/other/images/page4.php

  44. I think I've seen this movie before by Xrkun · · Score: 1

    So the bottom line of the movie is alien visits from outer space. Alien behaves in a funny way so we all laugh. Something spectacular happens at the end when the alien leaves. The movie has Jeff Bridges in it. Oh my god! K-PAX is a rerelease of Starman!!!!

  45. Is this movie similar to The Fisher King by No.2 · · Score: 2

    I know Kevin Spacey and Robin Williams play different types of personalities, but does Jeff Bridges' character come to the same sort of realizations as he did in The Fisher King.

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  46. star trek references by anuj · · Score: 1

    did nobody notice the data impression that prot constantly did?

    it was brilliant.

    i liked the movie - didn't expect too much, so i enjoyed myself.

    ~A

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  47. K-what, what the K-hell? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kpax? What's that? Some sort of Anthrax antibiotic?

    1. Re:K-what, what the K-hell? by AnonymousCowheard · · Score: 0
      You know of the KKK right? Good, have you ever heard of PAX television, like that "touched by an angel" shit? Well, K-PAX is the planet that dumped all this loony cracker shit on Planet Earth. The fact that Kevin Spacey, obviously named by his parents on Planet K-PAX, portrays an alien from Planet K-PAX in this movie is an omen that K-PAX is responsible for *ALL* of our health problems relating from Mental illness and retardation and ending at indigestion and CRT-eye syndrom.

      People affected by K-PAX are not aware they are in-fact affected. Runny bowels, burbing, burping and farting in the elderly are the signs of K-PAX influence. If you see the movie K-PAX, you will not see anything new. People speek to animals, some are afraid of water on toilette seats, and some of us eat oranges without peeling them. You'll see the same in K-PAX.

      If you think you may already have been infected by K-PAX syndrome, please read a perscription provided by Dr. Phill T. Critic via theFC Prescription Center for Disease and Societal Illness (FCPCDSI). Don't visit your relatives as you undergo treatment of K-PAX syndrome. I don't know why, but Dr. Phill T. Critic just says I shouldn't because it would cause withdrawls and hemmoraging.

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      But I'm sure you already Gnu that.
  48. Mental Health by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The contrived Mental Health industry has no business being in business. Not when, on public tv - PBS- yet, a celebrated mental health professional said that the current state of the art mental health technology has no apparent medical benefit. This opinion is echoed by many prominent and qualified medical professionals. The current body of mental health treatments and laws concerning "mental health" are the greatest threat to our country and our freedoms.

  49. Re:Ending (MAJOR SPOILERS!) by DGolden · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Actually, human blue photoreceptors can detect into the ultra-violet. The human lens is U.V. opaque (and slowly clouds up over a lifetime of absorbing ionising U.V. radiation). If you replace the human lens with a U.V. transparent artificial one, you can see into the U.V. range.
    No, this doesn't explain the U.V. abilities of Prot, but it's interesting anyway.

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  50. Why people are struggling with the ending? by gabbarsingh · · Score: 1

    Along the movie, people in the theater were hoping for "dressing down" of traditional human practices more specifically related to the concept of experts who know better. The expectations were met until the New Mexico connection developed, a sympathetic disappointment settled in - the messiah is a false one with no magic tricks. Except for the one where he is going to ride the light home. There too it isn't clear if did or did not ride the light.

    People like things that either confirm to their existing models of perception of reality - serial killer/pscychotic/maniac etc. or plausible new ones with reasonable risk - ET/Encounter of Third Kind/ anything that doesn't fall within this range is conveniently moved under WTF. And that's what the movie is about. Suspend your conceived notions and apperance of reality. There's more to it than meets the eye. And ofcourse another thing, with the instant gratification mindset, people want things chewed and digested.

  51. SPOILER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how is it possible to misinterpret the ending? prot left and didn't need to borrow robert porter's body anymore, and he took the other patient with him. remember when the doctor asked about robert porter, and prot said that when he saw him to make sure to take care of him? he knew he was going to be leaving the body behind, and only inhabited it when porter needed help.

  52. JON KATZ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Why the fuck do any of us give a green nugget of rat shit about any kind of fuckin' F+ movie ever created? Hollywood is just a bunch of fuckin' homosexual pimps sitting on the tumor we call California. K-PAX isn't SCI-FI. People like JON KATZ don't spoil a movie to the non-viewers when the plot ALREADY EXISTS on all the previous shitty movies. Fucking TT! YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO US KATZ!

    THERE IS NO HONOR IN JOURNALISM!

    Stop posting shit on slashdot. Who the fuck do you think you are KATZ? You doing this for a damn noble price? Just be like Nelson Mandela and talk shit and you'll win, but don't do it on slashdot! I repeat:

    katzshitpost!=slashdotworthy

    katzpost = /dev/spooge

  53. Re:First Porn Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is lame. come on are you telling me tha the esteemed Taco uses the services of a Mistress?????
    I doubt it. he's a big bad stud. he is the dominating one in any and all sexual realtionships.

  54. Run on sentences ... run run run away. by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 2


    "The idea that lunatics in asylums are the only really sane people in this crazy world has become a staple of American movies, from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest to Girl Interrupted to K-PAX , a surreal, at-times-charming and curiously detached psychological drama starring Kevin Spacey and Jeff Bridges about the complex relationship between a self-proclaimed alien and an alienated psychiatrist."

    The idea that the above is a major run on sentence, in which absurd claims are made to support what Katz seems to think is a clever idea, when in fact the idea is ludicrous at best, might tend to go overlooked because one is so busy trying to figure out if this guy ever saw a single film or play in which he didn't see correlations between things that clearly have none, not to mention his tendency to see everything in terms of Technology and Nerds ... boy does he write run on sentences.

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  55. Thanks, you stupid mother fucker. by Freshman · · Score: 1

    You don't want to give it away, of course. Sigh.

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  56. HONK HONK HONK... ...THUMP*THUMP... by AnonymousCowheard · · Score: 0

    aye! We got 'em !

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    But I'm sure you already Gnu that.
  57. Naming Conventions by x00 · · Score: 1
    Pleae, I can see no one has actually read the book.

    The planet is called "K-PAX" and his own name is "prot". K-PAX II is out in bookshops now, and K-PAX III is out next year, apparently.

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  58. The greatest trick... by voiceofthewhirlwind · · Score: 1

    The whole alien story was patched together from newsclippings and memos pinned to the corkboard behind Jeff Bridge's desk.

    K-PAX was some company's name on the coffee cup!

  59. Do yourslf a favour by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If this movie sounds good to you, go see (or rent) Man Facing Southeast [imdb.com]. One of the best films ever made.

  60. and don't forget by puck71 · · Score: 1

    "12 Monkeys" had the whole "guy in the asylum saying stuff but nobody believing him" angle.

  61. obviously prot was not human. by Another+AC · · Score: 2, Interesting

    he could see ultra violet, remember? That's pretty unambiguous evidence that he's from K-PAX (or at least SOME other planet). There was the stuff about him being immune to the drugs and disappearing for 3 days to go up north too. But just the ultra violet part should be enough to take any ambiguity out of the movie, right?

  62. subject yourself. by danslemur · · Score: 1

    Let's not forget 12 Monkeys, another great movie that involves an asylum and its inhabitants. It's a counterexample to the sane-people-thought-crazy notion, with Brad Pitt playing a character who is clearly off his nut, but is the first to be released (of course, along with the influence of his father). Hmm... is that a giraffe I see on the expressway?

    1. Re:subject yourself. by danslemur · · Score: 1

      oh great, someone already said this. that's what i get for not searching the discussion before posting...

  63. Disappointed - spoilers by fleener · · Score: 2
    -- Spoilers --
    • Jeff Bridges has two expressions in the film: "amazed" and "intrigued."
    • Kevin Spacey only directly cures one patient. The others are cured via events we don't see. How droll. This could have been *the* focus of the film.
    • The blue jay was computer generated. WHY?!? Real birds just too darn expensive? Hey, if I had known I would have invited Hollywood into my backyard.
    • Jeff Bridge's son should not have been introduced until the point where Spacey sees the photo in Jeff's house. This would have been the one surprise in the film and been a turning point in our understanding of Jeff's character. Sigh.
    • A psychologist would never invite a patient to his house. That was just stupid.
    • The entire film is spent watching Spacey's grin and listening to his "you humans" commentary. That's it. That's all. I was hoping for so much more. Jeff's "Starman" had more.

  64. Religious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why hasn't anyone noticed that K-PAX is a representation of what a modern-day appearance of Jesus would be like?

  65. could is just be ACID? by YOOGI · · Score: 1

    I think the whole movie could also be interpretted as kevin spacy being on ACID. thagts why his eyes were also dilated, and he was able to understand human psychoilogy so well and cure the patients (if you had ever take acid then you would know wha ti am talking about. also in 60s a lot of psychiatrists used LSD for understanding their patients better)

  66. Jeff Bridges vs. Kurt Douglas. by noz · · Score: 1

    A perfect example of production companies producing similar films, and then the distributors competitive nature.

    The distributors, if they have a comparable film competing for the same niche as another distribution company, will either release them together to share the same market simulteneously. Or if one film is getting positive criticism, they will stagnate the release of the second film to play off the popularity of the first (such as Don't Say a Word before this.

  67. don't see K-Pax by mgaiman · · Score: 1

    go see Waking Life instead!

    1. Re:don't see K-Pax by RichMan · · Score: 1

      No go see Man Facing South East. As a non-Hollywood movie it will be a little harder to find. It was probably the much better inspiration for K-Pax.

  68. My take on ending by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The ending can make sense if put in the following light.

    Prot leaves K-Pax (whole self), arrives on earth, entering human body (robert pourson), and when he leaves, he also leaves the human body, and returns to his K-Pax one -- the important distinction is he moved, he didn't transform. When he and bess leave, bess's whole body is missing, and she'll be put in a K-Paxian body on K-Pax, while Prot doesn't need to because he's normally one.

    As for the hypnosis, that's a way to get past the superficial alien vissage, and get down to the person that's inside. Also, strong experiences (the water bit) can bring this out too. It could also be argued that perhaps that prot's personality is overrided in certain parts by his host. (explaining the vegetarian bit, or perhaps that was just from his love of life in the universe -- although he didn't seem to be annoyed at the talk of the balance of organisms eating each other on Earth)

  69. Why questions? by kaze · · Score: 1

    Why didn't the government or SETI get involved?

    Why didn't the in-law scientist ask any more questions at the July 4th thing?

    How come hypnotism worked on the human host part of him, but the KPAKean wasn't aware of it?

    Why was he so keen to talk about everything (except lightwave travel) and many other KPACeans are on earth, but we assume that none of the other aliens reveal themselves?

  70. Must-See: Man Facing Southeast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's what I thought when I read the synopsis of K-PAX: Man Facing Southeast. It's a delightful Argentinian film. See it if you get a chance. I always thought it was as close to Philip K. Dick (his quirky philosophical schizophrenic novels, not Bladerunner or Total Recall) without being based on an actual Dick story.

  71. oxymoronic sentences annoy the hell out of me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The ending turns out to be the most inventive part of the movie. It's actually quite ingenuous, leaving people wondering about what they really saw and ought to conclude from it.

    No, that's not supposed to be a u.

  72. Hey get a job at people magazine by Rogain · · Score: 1

    If all you wanna write is fucking crummy movie reviews why dont you get a job at People Magazine or some fuckheaded place like that?

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  73. Aww, Katz is okay. by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1
    Somebody told me once that people around here beat up on Katz because he's not a geek, has never lived the highschool hell of being geek, yet writes with a, "We, the geeks," kind of approach which turns the stomachs of true geekdom.

    Yeah, maybe. Whatever.

    While his essays and general observations are not up to the standards of hardcore journalism, I nonetheless enjoy his passion and the general leaning of his biases, which are often close to my own.

    And I like his film reviews as well. I don't often agree with him, but then I don't often agree with any reviewer. It's fun to read people's opinions nonetheless.

    This whole site has an attitude and quality which I think his hack-style fits with very well. If you want plastic-people news, there's plenty of other sites you can go to.

    Slashdot rocks, it's reliable and constantly updating, and it wouldn't be the same without Katz.

    Just my opinion.

    Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll be hunting for a warez site to snag a copy of K-Pax.


    -Fantastic Lad -I swear! I'll not give another dime to Hollywood until I feel properly compensated for all the crap they've tricked me into paying over-inflated ticket prices to watch!

    1. Re:Aww, Katz is okay. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1
      Katz is only "okay" if "okay" is some kind of code word for "an ignorant buffoon who pretends he knows what he's talking about".

      I don't care if other people don't like him because he's not a "True geek" or whatever; I don't like him because he has no grasp on logic and is willing to jump any distance to land on a conclusion.

      I don't even mind that he's biased; Everyone's biased, and you pick the news services (and reporters, a term employed very loosely here IMO) that have the slant you want; If you're worried about being lied to you try to get some opposing views.

      Now, if I could just find someone intelligent to compare with Katz...

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  74. Is this similar to "Man facing Southeast" ? by captainwacky · · Score: 1

    Has anyone seen this movie. It was made in Argentina back in the 80s and was about some alien guy named Rantes and the pyschiatrist who tried to treat him. Can anyone who has seen both movies tell me if the plot lines are similar?

  75. Re:Doesn't answer my question...trees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Or how their superior minds somehow overcame the violent tendencies they charge us with; instincts that would've initially been necessary for the survival of their species (evolution is a dangerous road)."

    So one wonders how a plant species would turn out? I never saw a tree mug anyone.

  76. Re:I think I've seen this movie before--powder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone care to compare & contrast this to the movie "powder"?

  77. Man Facing Southeast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One thing no seems to be mentioning is that K-Pax is the bad remake of a wonderful 1986 Argentinian film "Hombre mirando al sudeste" (Man Facing Southeast).

    The orginal was quite subtle. It really sounds like this remake has been substantially dumbed down. Surprise surprise. Thanks again Hollywood.

  78. Re:Secret embedded in K-PAX! by premier · · Score: 0

    Jesus, Poag, that was pretty pathetic.

    K - P+A+X = K-31 = 11-31 = 311!!

    Explain how 11-31 = 311? Dipshit.

  79. Spoilage Warning: Ending discussed... by Kaizyn · · Score: 1

    For those of you having trouble understanding
    the ending, it means you don't watch enough
    Star Trek and other science fiction. Prot
    gave it away at the very beginning when he
    explains to the doctor that a soap bubble
    assumes the shape it does because it
    is the "most energy efficient configuration."
    Assume being the key word there. The body
    served as a fine host for the alien while
    Prot moved about the planet; and was left
    behind after he returned to K-Pax.

  80. Best review I've read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in a long time. Accipiter, not Katz, should be writing movie reviews for /.

  81. the fool and the wise man by The+Fun+Guy · · Score: 1

    This isn't really about K-Pax, but about the lead in on the review:

    "idea that lunatics in asylums are the only really sane people in this crazy world has become a staple of American movies"

    This is a very old theatrical convention in Western storytelling, at least 500 years (the fool in "King Lear") or 2500 years old (the various travelling companions in Aristophanes' "Clouds", "Frogs", "Birds", etc.), and even the ancient Greek theater was drawing on older traditions.

    Standard plot: the sane people do bad things to each other, but the rules of social convention prevent them from recognizing the depth of the stupidity, deception, evil, etc. The only person who really knows what's going on and can really see the world for what it is gets regarded as a fool, insane, etc., and is either locked up or disregarded. Usually, but not always, the rational world ends up being so unfair, unpleasant, or harmful, that the protagonist is forced to realize that the irrational viewpoint is the clearer one, the saner one. At that point, he will either become an overt outcast, or a covert convert.

    God bless that liberal arts education.

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  82. Re:Doesn't answer my question...trees by Sabriel · · Score: 1

    Trees - and other flora - often engage in some rather vicious chemical warfare. And "strangling vines" aren't called that without reason. See also "venus flytraps". The time scale is long, often much longer, but plants can be every bit as lethal as animals.

  83. my opinion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    K-PAX sucked. He should have just disappeared, the whole catatonic thing SUCKED. Not to mention Kevin Spacey looked like he was on amphetamines the entire movie.

  84. It's POWELL not Powers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dr. Mark Powell, not Dr. Mark Powers. I knew I wasn't crazy when I heard that he has the same last name as my grandparents. http://imdb.com even agrees with me.

  85. It is a remake of Man Facing Southeast? by RichMan · · Score: 1

    I still have not seen K-Pax but the more I hear the more similar they sound.

    Hombre mirando al sudeste (1986) is a link to the imdb page. The plot summary is:

    A new patient mysteriously appears in a psychiatric ward. He claims to come from another planet to study humans and their behavior. The alien is gentle but criticizes humans for their harsh treatment of each other. The assigned psychiatrist is himself unhappy, and affected by the patient's insight. But he is ordered to treat the patient according to institutional procedure.

  86. A Very Mellow Movie by Krieger · · Score: 1

    K-PAX was an exceptionally mellow movie. It was about (for me) the wonder of the world and sitting back and appreciating the here and now, and not stressing out so much. I walked out of the movie in a very pleasant and tranquil mood.

    Ultimately it was a good movie, the fact that everything was not answered and it was also not a excrutiating Hollywood ending where it was overly sappy. I give it a very favorable rating.

  87. WWII info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you have any information or references to the bit about the parachute drops using cataract-surgery spotters? That's *cool*.

    1. Re:WWII info? by djmoore · · Score: 1

      Do you have any information or references to the bit about the parachute drops using cataract-surgery spotters? That's *cool*.

      I hate to say it, but I read this more than thiry years ago, back in my misspent youth, so I am totally unable to confirm.

      The source was one of the many books about the Office of Strategic Services, the precursor to the CIA. This outfit did a wide variety of amazing things during WW II. Even if you can't confirm the UV spotter story, and even if you hate and fear the modern CIA, the history of the OSS is well worth reading.

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      In the wrong hands, sanity is a dangerous weapon.
  88. Re:Secret embedded in K-PAX! by tonyc.com · · Score: 1

    X is the 14th letter in the alphabet?
    11 - 31 = 311?

    Get your math right. K-PAX would equal the difference of K and the product of P, A and X.

    Therefore, K-PAX = 11-16124 = 11 - 384 = -373.

    373 is a palindromic prime. It is the only palindromic prime with all substrings prime. It is the sum of the squares of five consecutive primes: 3,5,7,11, and 13.

    An interesting number indeed. I'm sure they made it negative just to hide all these interesting facts from casual seekers. Where the Nazi bit comes in, I don't know.

  89. Spacy does it again by pagercam · · Score: 0

    K-PAX much like "The Usual Suspects" http://us.imdb.com/Title?0114814 completely depends on Spacey's ability to act straight faced and not give a thing away, I'm pretty sure that this wouldn't have worked with any other actor. Very good movie, but a little disturbing at the end, with recent events I was hoping for more of a comedy or sci-fi mystery.

  90. Seen it before. by zozo-etc · · Score: 1

    This is nothing new. I remember a full decade ago when F-Prot (distant relative perhaps? perhaps the one facing southwest?) helped my computer to see what was making it ill.

    Of course F-Prot was from Sweden and rode the phone lines at a remarkably slow 14,400 bits/second.

    But then, several years later, F-Prot left, and I've never heard from it again.

  91. Since we're nitpicking... by LMCBoy · · Score: 1

    The science of astronomy is practiced by "astronomers". The superstition of astrology is practiced by "astrologers".

    Sorry, one of my pet peeves.

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    Liberal (adj.): Free from bigotry; open to progress; tolerant of others.
  92. Re:Ending (MAJOR SPOILERS!) by martyn+s · · Score: 1

    Yes, interesting. At first I was going to write an angry reply saying that still doesn't explain his abilities, but then I read the end. Yes, interesting.