I Wanna Watch Cartoons!

aztektum writes "Since Saturday's tend to be slow days and it is Saturday morning I thought I'd send along Cartoon Network news. Ain't It Cool has a breakdown of Cartoon Networks 2002 itinerary." Several of the shows have been mentioned here before (Pilot Candidate and Gundam 0083 are both enjoyable so far. As is YuYu). Mentions the arrival of new DBZ in september. Also lots of non anime bits including Justice League (Many new episodes!). Also new Harvey Birdman, Brak, and Sealab 2021 although Space Ghost seems absent from the roster. Anyway, there are a lot of other shows mentioned too, but those are the shows that I have commanded tivo to snag ;)

Comments

Space Ghost

[perdida]

would be a much better replacement for Nightline than Dave Letterman.

1) he doesn't age

2) entirely removed from the depressing world of news and politics that Letterman insists on finding funny

3) Is actually funny

Re:Space Ghost

[Covant]

I wonder what Space Ghost would say about Merv Griffen...

There'd certainly be fewer jokes about slapping keno boys.

Re:Space Ghost

[EddydaSquige]

I'd rather they left Nighline on the air and CBS just replace Letterman with Space Ghost. That way I can still get a good news program and Space Ghost. Besides Letterman hasn't been funny in almost ten years. While I'm at it, Conan should be moved into an 11:30 time slot.

Re:Space Ghost

[flewp]

Move to a different state. Conan airs here at 11:30pm.

Re:Space Ghost

[EddydaSquige]

but then I'd have to live iin the midwest

Re:Space Ghost

[flewp]

What? You got beef with cows?

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

All great shows

[Raistlin99]

I can't wait for SeaLab 2021 though. The funnies part of the whole show is during the end credits. I really enjoyed the time travel episode where the alternate Quinn's were forced to fight gladiator style.

Justice League is also really well done, however there werent enough episodes made for an initial run.

Well I can't wait till they start showing the new episodes.

Re:All great shows

[GKW]

I wish they wouldn't have censored the story the FCC captain was telling his son at the end ofthe pirate radio episode. That and the white debbie wants a baby episode. I just about puked when they mentioned 'A Modest Proposal'.

Re:All great shows

[mvw]

Probably more than 25 years ago, as a young child, German television had some kind of "american tv week" running, where they showed original US TV all night. Which was radical different from German TV at that time. One of the cartoons they showed was an episode of the original Sea Lab 2020. I was very impressed of it because it was bit like Star Trek but under the sea. To bad this stuff never made it over.

Imagine my surprise, when I stumbled over a Sea Lab 2021 episode on the net, the one with the Feng Shui master, some weeks ago. Not only brought it back some pleasant youth memories, but this kind of recycling was so cool and funny, I nearly wet my pants laughing. :-)

How I want that Cartoon Network/Toonami/Adult Swim (but with no anime censorship!!) over here. German pay tv is struggling to get subscribers, but they bet only on traditional horses (like formula one racing, Bundesliga soccer, softp0rn and early tv showings of movie blockbusters - a very boring setup).

Re:All great shows

[uncledrax]

Justice League is also really well done, however there werent enough episodes made for an initial run
JL is good stuff... but why oh why does wonder-woman fly? Thats not the wonder woman I grew up with..
*sob*

Re:All great shows

[Aqualung]

Real baby back ribs! Dripping with sauce! Tee hee!

x-men

[RN]

good animation (anime quality), good stories, and characters. only cartoon that's worth watching for those without cable tv.

Me gusta el Laboratorio de Dexter

[mikeboone]

Here's something to try if you're bored. Cartoon Network is the only channel on my DirecTV lineup (besides the PPV movies) which I can get in Spanish. You go to the menu and change the Audio Language settings.

Not all the shows come in Spanish, but a bunch do. It's a good way to learn. I actually prefer Dexter's voice in Spanish than in English. Johnny Bravo, Scooby Doo, and lots of the old Warner Bros. cartoons work too.

Re:Me gusta el Laboratorio de Dexter

[Anonymous Coward]

hey asshole,
The man/woman in your parent said it's nice to practice learning spanish from it.
If she or he had said the same thing about French on DVD's, would you have been so quick to jump down his or her throat?
Grow up!
CJB

Re:Me gusta el Laboratorio de Dexter

[Anonymous Coward]

Hauh Hauh Hauh! I am, 'ow yew zay, ze French type, non? I am to eating ze frog legs, an ze cat brains, non? I am not 'ow yew zay to be knowing to speaking ze engleesh, non? Hauh hauh hauh.

Re:Me gusta el Laboratorio de Dexter

[shadowcabbit]

Probably offtopic, but I'm going to guess you're not a big fan of Christine Cavanaugh, then. (She's the VA for Dexter, not to mention a slew of other characters.)

Re:Me gusta el Laboratorio de Dexter

[mikeboone]

I guess you get used to what you hear first. I heard Dexter in Spanish first, and the voice seems to fit better. It's got a sharp edge to it that I prefer over his weird English accent. I really have no idea what other voices Ms. Cavanaugh does.

On the other hand, Fred and Barney (Pedro y Pablo) sound weird, as do Shaggy and Scooby, in Spanish.

Re:Me gusta el Laboratorio de Dexter

[Anonymous Coward]

Hauh Hauh Hauh! I am, 'ow yew zay, ze French type, non? I am to eating ze frog legs, an ze cat brains, non? I am not 'ow yew zay to be knowing to speaking ze engleesh, non? Hauh hauh hauh.

Very interesting post. Obviously you've studied french, or you would not use "hauh" for an "oh" sound (English-only speakers would pronounce "hauh" as "how) and you use "non" instead of "no'", even though it is not (as oui is, for example) assimilated into English. That is, an English-only speaker would pronounce it nohn. (As in non-issue).
Aside from these two issues, let me evaluate the ways in which you prove observant of French pronunciation.

1. Hard unpronounced aiches. (h's). 'ow you zay say for how you say
   
2. French apprixamtions to English "th" sound. You say "ze French" for "the French", because the 'th' of the is not in a native French speaker's pronunciation repertoire, so she or he uses a z sound instead. Unfortunately, you don't have an example of an unaspirated "th" (as in "thanks", which a French-only speaker would pronounce "sanks".) One of my all-time favorite quotes by a non-native-English speaker was what I heard as: "Great minds sink alike", which was heightened by the fact that there was no other pronounciation error (except a trilled r for an American one in "great") in that sentence.
   
3. French u. The French have a tendency to prounounce short syllables with greater stress than their English counterparts, which leads their pronounciation of "you" to sound like "yu:", with the u: being an 'u' sound as in Tu. (Shape lips for "toon" oo sound, say "teen" ee sound instead). Since in English "yew" and "you" are homonyms, but the former is an unaccustomed word, I can only guess 'ow yew zay approximates to an English speaker a slightly frenchier pronounciation.
   
4. You use locution "I am to x" meaning "I am given to x". (I am to eating ze frog legs). Perhaps this is a pun on aime (like, pronounced "emm"), so that you mean "I aime to eating ze frog legs", but at any rate this brings up two more good points:
   
5. Confusion of infinitive and gerund. (liking and to like.) English can say "I like to eat" and "I like eating". In French, the latter form does not exist. Since English has complex rules for when one uses which (gerund or infinitive), "to eating" and the like may be a typical French mistake in speaking English. (A blend of "I aime to eat frog legs" and "I aime eating frog legs".
   
6. Differing use of articles. English does not say "I like to eat the frog legs", but a French speaker would probably use an article there. In naming general things ("frog legs") or qualities ("truth" in art), French tends to use the article where English omits it.
   
7. You capture the difficulties of the English negative construction to a French speaker. Your sentence I am not 'ow yew zay to be knowing to speaking ze engleesh is loosely translated "I don't speak English". Clearly the do form inserted just for the sake of constructing a negative is a troubling syntax, and the French form (Je ne parle pas francais, in the simplification) would become "I not am speaking French." or, with a slight anglication, "I am not speaking French". Which brings me to:
   
8. You capture perfectly the French idiom "to know to speak" rather than "to speak". Where English would say "I speak german", French typically says what amounts to "I know to speak german" (I know how to speak german). That is, the french form matches almost exactly. (Subject "I"/je, verb "know"/"sais", complementary verb "to speak"/"parler", object of complementary verb.) Together with the last observation, this makes it abundantly clear why a French speaker might say "I am not to be knowing to speaking ze engleesh", especially since the present progressive versus simple present (to be knowing vs to know) is diffucult for a French speaker.
   
9. Lastly, you admirably capture the French cadence with "engleesh", a spelling a native English speaker (expecting the spelling "english") knows to denote a pronunciation with equally long, equally stressed syllables. This is characteristic of French cadence, since French words have virtually no stress and very few unaccented 'schwa' syllables. (Engl*sh, where the * is hardly a recognizable vowel). Rather than use the '*' of "it", in English, a French speaker resorts to the 'i' of eat, since neither language has a short vowel 'i'. (English 'it' and 'eat' have two different vowel qualities in addition to differing vowel lengths.
   

So, troll, I salute you. Twenty minutes of my life has been devoted to you.

cartoon network in europe

[gooofy]

cartoon network was one of the channels I really started to miss when they got encrypted here in europe :-(

The Downfall of the Dane?!

[Eddy Johnson]

First of all, they're definitely putting a lot into one channel at once. They're going to be cutting a lot of ratings-grabbers. And with all this stuff, I have a nagging feeling in the back of my head that the show that has fed me my energy for the past year or two will be gone...

SCOOBY-DOO.

I know I sound like an idiot, since it's such a big hit, but it's one of the last old-school programs left on CN. Looney Tunes is the only other big old-school cartoon on there, but it's dwindling in how much airtime it gets. Scooby is too, especially since they gave some Scooby time to WB (which sucks, because they cram so many commercials in).

Scooby-Doo is likely to be the last holdout with Looney Tunes, finally being abolished back to Boomerang. However, very few people get Boomerang. To solve this solution, I still think CN should separate into three different entities and make them all as availible as CN - in fact, they should all be availible as a package for the same price, or just slightly more. Here are my ideas for the separation, found under the last CN story a few days ago...

Maybe I'm paranoid over Scooby's possibly leaving, but if you've noticed all the CN changes over the past year or two, you should be afraid too...

Re:The Downfall of the Dane?!

[SignaI 1l]

Are you trolling for Scooby-Doo?

Re:The Downfall of the Dane?!

[DumbBlonde]

They may not ditch Scooby considering the movie coming up. I'm sure alot of parents plan to bring the wee ones to that. I don't know how good the movie will be but it could keep old school Scooby on the air. http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/scooby_doo.html

Re:The Downfall of the Dane?!

[afree87]

Scooby Doo is nice, but which one are you talking about? The only good one is the original. I suppose you could say the one with the little kids is adequate, but the movies -- ye gods! The whole point of Scooby-Doo is that the monsters aren't real! I don't know what sort of mindless loser came up with the plot for Zombie Island and other assorted stupidities, but the point of the show (besides the comedy) has gone totally over their heads.

Wow, look at me, I'm getting all worked up over a cartoon. I guess I could just not watch CN, just like how I don't watch all the other TV channels besides C-SPAN and the International channel. Hey, can't hurt to try...

Re:The Downfall of the Dane?!

[teslatug]

Scooby-dooby doo where are you? We've got some slots to fill now...

Re:The Downfall of the Dane?!

[Ed Avis]

'very few people get Boomerang'

Funny - in Britain, Boomerang is the only Cartoon Network channel that's available gratis, so many more people get it than their other channels. It doesn't run very much advertising either, so I wonder what their reason is. Perhaps to act as an advertisement for the other CN channels.

Re:The Downfall of the Dane?!

[aztektum]

With the Scooby-Doo movie coming out why would they get rid of it?

Re:The Downfall of the Dane?!

[Anonymous Coward]

Scooby Doo is on WAY too much as it is, especially late at night, when they could easily be playing bad 70's Hanna-Barbara action shows (original Space Ghost! Superfriends!) vs bad Hanna-Barbara comedy..

If I see Scooby Doo Meets Don Knotts or Scooby Doo Meets Sonny & Cher or Scooby Doo Meets Jesus on at 3am again I'm likely to commit mass murder...

Re:The Downfall of the Dane?!

[NonSequor]

Actually, I think A Pup Named Scooby Doo is perhaps the only cartoon featuring younger versions of well-known characters that can actually stand on it's own merits. Let's face it, the original Scooby Doo can only be enjoyed for it's mind-blowing mediocrity. Think about all of the times you've heard something like this: "Jinkies! This piece of paper has the answer to the whole mystery on it, but I won't say what's on it until the unmasking because the show's writers want to salvage the last scrap of suspense but they can't think of a clue that has even the slightest bit of subtlety." Well, not exactly like that, but you get the point. There were also the horribly inadequate explanations as to how the ghosts performed their ghostly deeds. For example, in the case of the Snow Ghost, they said that the Snow Ghost looked like it was flying by using transparent skis. This doesn't even make sense given that the ghost was always flying head first and never touched the ground.

A Pup Named Scooby Doo was really a parody of the old show. All of the old devices are exaggerated and they reformulated the previously bland Fred and Daphne as an idiot and a bitch, respectively.

Even if you don't agree with me you have to admit that it could have been a thousand times worse. Look at Tom and Jerry Kids. Blecch!

New DBZ

[Anonymous Coward]

If you haven't followed the Dragonball Z series I suggest you check out a few episodes. The only complaint I have is that Toonami replays episodes out of order and all the episodes are cut. It is better to buy the DVDs. At least they are going to finish the Majin Buu saga.

Re:New DBZ

[GigsVT]

I don't know, watching people stare at each other for 5 minutes at a time (a cheesy way to get out of animating very many frames), with sporadic voice over "thoughs" isn't my idea of entertainment.

Re:New DBZ

[JonWan]

Watch DBZ on the International Channel it's un-cut and in japanese (sorry no subtitles). It's a lot more fun, and you haven't laughed until you see Master Roshi defeat a giant dragon with a equally giant fart! They just cut too much and ruin the jokes in the US version. IC is also showing Slayers (subbed) after DBZ. If you like J-pop you can catch HEY HEY HEY Music Champ just gefore DBZ.

Re:New DBZ

[Anonymous Coward]

DBZ is utter trash. It is absolutely horrible, and most of its fan base consists of 12 year old boys and others who haven't yet realized they aren't 12 year old boys. It has no plot, horrible dialogue, and the fight choreography is so boring and repetitive that one fight will often take 5 episodes to be "complete" despite absolutely nothing actually happening in the fight. It is trash. It has little humorous value, no philosophical value, and is an example of how NOT to create anime. DBZ is the Power Rangers of anime.

Re:New DBZ

[JonWan]

"DBZ is utter trash. It is absolutely horrible"

I don't believe anyone thinks DBZ is high ART, it's just a silly way to waste 30 min. If you want art, watch Mononoke Hime in japanese with the subtitles turned off. ;-)

Re:New DBZ

[nomadic]

Yeah, they do that, but show still manages to remain entertaining? I used to make fun of it until I started watching it...

Re:New DBZ

[st63z]

Oh, so the latest ep that CN has is where Vegeta literally exploded and zapped Buu into little pieces? No wonder, I've seen that ep cycled into rotation THREE times, but have never caught the follow-up ep (even though CN ran the "next-week blurb" for it). Argh, it was so frustrating... On an off-topic, I've also been enjoying discovering the original DB in re-runs now, it's just a cute, fun way to waste 30mins...

Re:New DBZ

[jmccay]

They haven't played it yet! It is Annoying me to no end!!! It looks like that may be a part of the new episodes on in September!

Re:New DBZ

[Anonymous Coward]

you could always watch some wrestling. remember that next time you start downing a show that has a strong following and actually has a storyline.

Sealab 2021

[Enry]

That show rocks. I don't know why, probably just the combination of crappy 60's cartooning with today's humor. It's worth a watch, given it's only 15 minutes with no commercials.

Re:Sealab 2021

[abramsh]

Not only does it rock, so does it's music. Check out McChris's web site.

Re:Sealab 2021

[Covant]

It's pretty cool..

reminds me of those odd shows made using marionettes.. sort of a cross between voltron and swiss family robinson.

Sealab, Brak and Aqua Team

[ecliptik]

13 new episodes each of current series AQUA TEEN HUNGER FORCE, SEALAB 2021 and THE BRAK SHOW

There are three of my favourite shows on TV, I even grabbed some soundbits from Sealab for my Radio Show.

Re:Sealab, Brak and Aqua Team

[Progoth]

aqua teen hunger force is, in my opinion, the funniest thing on tv. if you've never seen this show I highly recommend you find an episode and check it out. I about die from laughing every time I watch this show. There's only 5 episodes at the moment, my personal favorite is Balloonenstein.

Frylock (giving Meatwad a cylindrical balloon): Here, rub this all over your body to get rid of the static electricity.
Meatwad: Um, could you guys give me some privacy?

first pedophile post

[Anonymous Coward]

adults who watch cartoons use the information to talk to little boys. I think you can take it from there...

Re:first pedophile post

[Anonymous Coward]

And people only cut their food with knives to learn how to dismember. dream on.

subscription?

[Anonymous Coward]

This is what a subscription to slashdot.org will provide us with? Some lazy ass telling us about cartoon lineups?

I've seen all of these already

[sam_handelman]

I only bring this up because I woke up this morning to four hours of fresh anime that had arrived overnight. I have more of it than I have time or inclination to watch.

I can get all the cartoons I want by p2p. In the case of "the Simpsons", I can see a new episode sooner if I turn on the boob tube (well, my tuner card, anyway) but I already see most of these toons (the ones I actually want to watch) subtitled by fans long before cartoon network gets around to rebroadcasting them sans anything raunchy and with lousy voice talent.

It isn't even that much trouble - taken as a total, turning on whatever software and running it overnight is less time than I would spend watching commercials if I watched them on TV. Why would I ever?

Seriously; what value added does Cartoon Network provide?

I think that US anime is a coal-mine-canary for the whole audio-visual-content industry; which is an appreciable slice of the boysenberry pie which is world economic output. That which is a minor annoyance for dedicated geeks to do today will be routine for any consumer no more than ten years hence. So - are video pirates like me (Yar!) going to appreciably sour the audience for Cartoon Network's anime? Or, is it nothing but good fan recruitment for anime generally?

Hard numbers would sure be nice, if some blessed sould has them - searches on google spit back mostly links to slashdot :)

Re:I've seen all of these already

[interstellar_donkey]

Seriously; what value added does Cartoon Network provide?


It's legal?

Re:I've seen all of these already

[bluetea]

I can get all the cartoons I want by p2p. In the case of "the Simpsons", I can see a new episode sooner if I turn on the boob tube (well, my tuner card, anyway) but I already see most of these toons (the ones I actually want to watch) subtitled by fans long before cartoon network gets around to rebroadcasting them sans anything raunchy and with lousy voice talent.

It isn't even that much trouble - taken as a total, turning on whatever software and running it overnight is less time than I would spend watching commercials if I watched them on TV. Why would I ever?

Seriously; what value added does Cartoon Network provide?

There is more to Cartoon Network than anime. Space Ghost, Dexter's Lab, Powerpuff Girls, Samurai Jack, etc., etc... all of them are Cartoon Network originals. Your tastes may differ, but these are all fairly high quality shows, particularly the first 3, and none of them would exist w/o Cartoon Network. I think that qualifies as value added. Note that I'm not against anime, I just personally don't give a rat's flea-bitten ass about it. Also, I find that there's something about kicking back on the couch with a beer and watching a real TV that watching an MPEG or DivX on the computer just doesn't provide. YMMV, tho...

Re:I've seen all of these already

[kesuki]

The value CN adds is getting the next generation of anime addicts hooked early. I was hooked on anime at an early age from TV and never knew it was anime until I rediscovered anime later.
Yes, you can get anime on P2P but in my experience noone ever has enough slots or bandwith. It takes me about 3 hours to find one poor quality anime when I'm looking for a specific episode. Which is why I Don't bother with p2p except when I'm depsperate.
CN I don't have to put any effort into watching it, if you buy anime, download it, or rent it it takes a higher cost in energy than switching on the TV.
There aren't any hard numbers, but every anime fan I've ever met either had started liking the stuff young from TV or else picked up the habit from a roommate or Signifigant Other. So without seeding the next generation there won't be anyone to convice roommates or SOs into watching anime.
Since CN has been doing the best editing of any production company translating into english for TV they're doing a big service. Unfortunately they aren't going to keep on editing shows in-house from the last article about CN I read. A real shame if they end up cutting more scenes because the producer doesn't want to paint bikini's on the characters etc.

Re:I've seen all of these already

[Sadfsdaf]

P2P? If you're an anime junkie, P2P isn't the way to go. Go usenet. Usenet most of the time is provided by your ISP (albiet not that great). Alt.binaries.anime and alt.binaries.multimedia.anime provide all the new anime you want. Although there isn't much old anime and you can't actively look for something other than by requesting it, it's really great for new stuff. Check out what's on user anime channels right now by going to www.animeusenet.org. I'd advise you to sign up with giganews/easynews/newshosting/etc and giving it a try. It's ~6 gigs a month, which is around 18 episodes. If you're lucky like me, your ISP would provide the server for you and just download gigs a day without filling up your ISPs internet pipes (the server is hosted locally). If you're interested I can be a bit more descriptive...

I love my Hina

[Husaria]

I utterly dread the coming of the Love Hina to the states, the voices are terrible...

Re:I love my Hina

[JonWan]

the voices are terrible

You didn't specify, but I'll assume you're talking about the English Dub. I have the 1st DVD and have watched it in English and Japanese the English version is about average IMHO. I have over 500 anime videos a good mix of subbed and dubbed and if you watch the older stuff and compare it to the anime now you can tell the dubs are getting better the production companys are trying, but sometimes they screw up pretty bad. For the most part they do a fairly good job, when they do screw up you can bet they here of it.

schedule

[Anonymous Coward]

sleep
9 - 11 AM : MST3K on scifi chan
sleep

If you check the web page...

[AltGrendel]

...here you'll notice that there are no new Space Ghost scripts listed after 1999. I always thought that it was the best one, showing cluelessness at its finest.It's a shame too, but hey, maybe they ran out of ideas. You know how it is.

Re:If you check the web page...

[demaria]

Nope, they have new ones. Season seven, 2001:

Kentucky Nightmare, Mommentary, The Justice Hole, Knifin' Around, Flipmode, and Sweet For Brak.

oh ya..

[Capt. Beyond]

I'm REALLY willing to pay for content like this..

Re:oh ya..

[Jetboy01]

Dine, then either dont pay, or dont read stories that dont interest you

Voltron

[Spankophile]

I'm still waiting for someone to air episodes of the original Voltron series.

Re:Voltron

[simm_s]

CN aired it along with Thunder Cats a while back, but I guess they cut it.

Re:Voltron

[Banjonardo]

He-Man!

I HAVE THE POWER!

Re:Voltron

[jtdennis]

CN Aired voltron as part of the original Toonami block. I'd love to see an 80s block with Voltron, He-Man, Transformers, GI Joe, and a few others.

Bring back Invader Zim!

[Anonymous Coward]

Bring back Invader Zim!

You know...

[Anonymous Coward]

Adults taking cartoons this seriously is a bit... scary. I'm all for geekish hobbies but really... isn't watching cartoons writen and produced for 10 year olds get a little... boring after about 5 minutes?

Re:You know...

[Don Keehotay]

No. What's boring is spending an entire afternoon watching armor-clad millionaires smash into each other repeatedly.

If you actually *watched* cartoons, you'd know that most of them feature very sophisticated writing. Certainly more sophisticated than most programming that features 'live' (for lack of a better term) actors.

summary of slashdot fetishes

[Anonymous Coward]

electronic toys

commercial animation

sci-fi/buffy crap

belief in the evil of a legal doctrine called copyright because it's arbitrary, presumably, or something imposed on us by space aliens, I guess

Linux, a version of Unix

Unix, an ancient OS which continues to outlive common sense and progress. Unix is proof positive the greatest force in society is inertia.

Ok, which one of the above is NOT ridiculous?

Powerpuff Girls

[Mojo Trolljo]

"20 new half-hours of THE POWERPUFF GIRLS, including a Christmas special" oh hoho... Powerpuff Girls! You will be defeated and I will take over Townsville. Townsville will be mine for the taking. And you will be defeated. The Powerpuff Girls that is!

Re:Powerpuff Girls

[Anonymous Coward]

Why was the parent a troll?? Maybe a lame attempt at humour seeing that Mojo Jojo is the villain of the Powerpuff girls (a cartoon in the list!).

btw, the last line is a sig, if you're offended then maybe you smoke crack too

So You Want To Watch "Cartoons" eh?

[Enonu]

If you don't mind the mindless, censored, cut for commercials crap they show on TV networks, fine. However if you want something of a bit higher quality, then I suggest trying anime:

1. Start researching anime on the Internet, find something to your taste, and give it a try. I suggest any Miyazaki flic for starters.

2. After that find a local anime club. Chances are that they have a nice video collection that you can check out for *FREE*. You'll also be introduced to every aspect of anime, and you'll know what to look for now.

3. Now you've probably noticed that fansubbed anime is quite nice in that you get to see material you would probably NEVER EVER SEE IN YOUR NATURAL LIFE. Start buying tapes from distributors.

4. IRC has numerous channels dedicated to anime and "digisubbing." I suggest you check them out.

5. www.streamload.com is a media trading service that has HUGE amounts of bandwidth. People trade anime collections now that are monstrously huge (over 1TB). Search for streamload trade forums on Google.

6. Go to Manga and Anime conventions.

If you get to this point, I doubt you'll ever turn back.

Re:So You Want To Watch "Cartoons" eh?

[zzyzx]

You forgot to mention the friendly fans who never take on a condescending tone.

Re:So You Want To Watch "Cartoons" eh?

[aztektum]

dude i do watch anime even though some is way dorky but right now my favorite show on CN is samurai jack.. so i like knowing there's more on the way. forgive me for not being a snobby elitist.

Re:So You Want To Watch "Cartoons" eh?

[Dephex Twin]

If you don't mind the mindless, censored, cut for commercials crap they show on TV networks, fine. However if you want something of a bit higher quality, then I suggest trying anime

What if you dislike cartoons where the dialog stinks and is delivered poorly? What if you don't like sexism? What if you don't like every cartoon to be drawn in the same general style? What if you saw an episode of the new Transformers where it is done in an anime style and it is the biggest pile of CRAP you have ever laid eyes on? What if you think Adult Swim (before cowboy bebop) and the Powerpuff Girls are great?

What makes the movies you like inherently superior? (Clue: they aren't.)

What if I don't want to "learn" how to enjoy a cartoon genre, anime or not?

That's great that you like anime and all, but get over it.

mark

Re:So You Want To Watch "Cartoons" eh?

[Fishstick]

Samurai Jack has been a pleasant surprise. My kids watch Dexter & PowerPuff and most of the rest of the CN lineup -- I can take most of it or leave it.

Not so with Jack. I've really gotten into it. I think it is probably the best series produced on CN yet. I was surprised to find out it's produced by the same guy who does Dexter (Gennedy Tartovsky), although now that I know I see some similarities in character design and animation style.

Re:So You Want To Watch "Cartoons" eh?

[Anonymous Coward]

> 6. Go to Manga and Anime conventions.

> If you get to this point, I doubt you'll ever turn back.

Of course, that's because at this point you'll be unable to interact with the rest of society, rather than because of any inherent quality of anime.

Re:So You Want To Watch "Cartoons" eh?

[SoLoatWork]

Ok you do realize that CN airs anime? Bebop, Gundam, Outlaw Star, and all those shows on the new Sat. Adult Swim. You make it sound as if they don't show anime...

OK and here is your list filtered through reality:

1. Waste time on the web searching through a bunch of fanboy pages.
2. Get berated and made fun of because you aren't an anime expert.
3. Spend money
4. Or break the law
5. Ditto
6. See 2

I would rather flip on the TV and watch Adult Swim Action than deal with a bunch of Simpsons Comic Book Guys.

Re:So You Want To Watch "Cartoons" eh?

[afree87]

>Ok you do realize that CN airs anime? Bebop, Gundam, Outlaw Star, and all those shows on the new Sat. Adult Swim. You make it sound as if they don't show anime...

It's DUBBED, you loon. Dubbed anime are usually edited and sound horrible, etc. The Internation Channel shows subtitled anime, which is a nice option, but you only get to see the kind they approve.

>OK and here is your list filtered through reality:

>1. Waste time on the web searching through a bunch of fanboy pages.

And reading Slashdot is what?

>2. Get berated and made fun of because you aren't an anime expert.

Don't be stupid.

>3. Spend money
>4. Or break the law

Those are two options in buying ANYTHING

>5. Ditto
>6. See 2

>I would rather flip on the TV and watch Adult Swim Action than deal with a bunch of Simpsons Comic Book Guys.

I think you must be trolling, because most anime fans actually don't like the Simpsons all that much. Or maybe you're making this up as you go along.

Re:Have a goatse.

[Anonymous Coward]

your parent is the first goatscx ascii pr0n that has made me laugh: I can still make it out!!!

Simpsons,Speed Racer,Underdog,Rockie&Bullwinkl

[LM741N]

Are the only ones I really like. Does any one remember OverCat from Underdog? He was the evil cat that lived in the heavens and would pound his fist saying "I want my milk!". I really like the old cartoons because they had appeal for adults too. There are a lot of things in those old cartoons that would go right over the head of a child or even teenager. The Simpsons are the penultimate example of that. Have fun tooning!

Can a cable TV channel travel?

[pete-classic]

If not, why does it need an itinerary?

This is what they want us to pay for.

-Peter

The Good ole' Days

[shaunbaker]

Anyone else miss the classic cartoons that just aren't on tv very much anymore. I personally thought Garfield was the coolest show along with the Loony Toons and all those. Now all the cartoons are crazy half anime techno thrillers. Just doesn't appeal to me like Willey Coyote and RoadRunner.

Re:The Good ole' Days

[TRACK-YOUR-POSITION]

Garfield is a crazy half anime techno thriller now? Great Caesar's Ghost!

Re:The Good ole' Days

[SirRichardPumpaloaf]

Cartoon Network has Looney Tunes on Saturday mornings from 8:00 to 12:00 eastern. I watch it just about every week while having my morning coffee. They don't appear to be editing anything out, either, unlike when ABC used to show them.

Finish the Majin buu saga?

[kesuki]

I don't think 54 episodes are enough to finish the majin buu saga.. they left off at episode 221(235j) and episode ?257(271j) Majin buu is still around and pretty powerful.
From what I understand the Buu saga goes all the way to episode 291j of DBZ after which DBGT takes over after the saga is resolved. But I could be horribly mistaken as I've only seen scattered episodes between 221us and 271j.
If anyone knows for certain where the buu saga it would be helpful. I know i'm going to be watching the new episodes when they come out mmmm... I'm watching the episodes the brought out last season for about the 7th time just because there is nothing better on TV that I know of.

Re:Finish the Majin buu saga?

[OneStepFromElysium]

Your math is way off. Using the Japanese numbers, 235 (already shown) + 54 (new episodes) = 291 (completed DBZ run). They're going to finish DBZ this year, and likely start AT next September.

Re:Have a goatse.

[Anonymous Coward]

Did you just call his mom a "goatscx ascii pr0n"? That's pretty harsh.

Batman

[Anonymous Coward]

is my favorite cartoon

Adult Swim should air this Anime...

[MsGeek]

...Serial Experiments Lain. Considering it's another Pioneer title and CN and Pioneer seem to have a symbiotic relationship now, it's a natural. There is only one theoretically objectionable reference in the entire mini-series, and that's a reference to masturbation that can easily be excised and is not germane to the plot.

C'mon, CN...DO IT! Rev up Protocol Seven and link Adult Swim to THE WIRED!!!!

Re:Adult Swim should air this Anime...

[Anonymous Coward]

the only problem with this is there are reference to drugs in most every episode, well as long as that circuit pill thing is counted as a drug.

Re:Adult Swim should air this Anime...

[Dwedit]

didn't stop cowboy bebop from having the episode with the magic mushrooms

Re:Adult Swim should air this Anime...

[Shadwhawk]

Spoilers Ahead!

You kidding? Lain catching Alice masturbating is rather integral to the plot. Without that scene, you don't know why Alice is so angry with Lain, why Lain is so apologetic to her, why she changes everyone to make them forget, why she makes Alice forget her...
In other words, it's the basis for the entire conclusion of the series.

The best...

[gkbarr]

is without question - Cowboy Bebop. Sealab and Space Ghost are a riot. Way to go Taco.

See you space cowboy.

Re:sex anime

[Anonymous Coward]

It's called HENTAI. At least learn the proper fucking terminology if you're going to troll, you dumb fuck.

Hamtaro

[Jackolantern]

Well this looks worse then pokémon. The official web site has some plot synopsis and pictures. I almost went into shock from the glucose level. I suppose I should give it a chance(I nearly turned off YuYu during the opening credits they where so terrible, but found myself liking the show anyway) maybe there is some kind of hilarious subplot to follow, but I somehow doubt it.

On the topic of space ghost and new episodes, I don't think that they have updated there page in a while but may have filmed a new episode(or two). I refer specifically to the episode featuring Tenacious D(yogi bear as satan is perhaps the funniest thing I have ever seen) and the old kentucky shark episode with the directors commentary over it. But these could just be old ones I had not seen before.

-Jack

CN sucks

[Anonymous Coward]

I've tried watching the cartoon network a number of times but I have never ever found anything even remotely entertaining. Just a bunch of crap like "Dragon Ball Z" or other "anime" geared toward four year old children. Scooby-Doo, a bunch of stupid "let's say stupid things and scream a whole bunch and we'll have a show!" stuff like Cat and Dog or whatever that is. Cow and Chicken. Maybe that's it. Or CHicken and Cat.. I dunno.

Anyway, I've yet to find anything worth watching on this station and don't plan to ever watch it. I think the last time I turned to that channel was about 9 months ago when I watched 5 minutes of some really stupid cartoon.

To find good cartoons, you have to watch the Action Movie channel late at night when they run good anime movies a few times per week.

No Apostrophe

[EnglishTim]

Sorry to be a grammar Nazi, but it's 'Saturdays'... You should never put in an apostrophe to make something plural.

Cartoon Cartoon

[dstanley]

What happened to the original "Cartoon Cartoon"?? It was half an hour of short cartoons. They were clever fresh and funny. Oh Well....

Re:Cartoon Cartoon

[Chemical]

It's still on. It's on Sunday at 2:00pm et/pt I believe.

I do like the Brak show alot

[CrazyJim0]

Brak,"We've been playing video games all weekend."

Zoraks,"No, I've been playing. You've been getting a red ass beatdown."

Other Cartoon Network Programs are nice, but...

[sam_handelman]

Space Ghost episodes don't circulate for months on the internet before cartoon network airs them.

In any case, 90% of what CN broadcasts are reruns; I'm sure that viewership of reruns is where cartoon network gets most of its ad revenue - even for CN original programming. Space Ghost and Dexter's Lab, although available from Kazaa, haven't yet reached the penetrance of Tenchi Muyo, so I'm not tempted to just watch downloaded versions instead.

Obviously, to the extent that people have a fetishistic preference for television over downloaded viewing, that will provide a boost to TV even should the computer read your mind and fetch whatever you want to watch days before you know you want to see it.

Personally, however, p2p really has damped my interest in CN anime offerings - pretty much completely. For shows that I like but don't feel the need to watch as soon as they're newly broadcast - Space Ghost is a prime example - I'd prefer p2p as well, if they were widely available. I think this is a trend.

re: value added-
CN's editing - I prefer no editing at all - is "value added", if you like it. Services that CN does for society generally by broadcasting anime don't count as value added because they don't enrich the experience at the particular time that I watch the anime. To the extent that my friends might watch the same episode, whereupon we have something to talk about, I suppose that that qualifies as value added. I don't think that it is going to compete with p2p as technology improves, suffice to say.

Legal = value added? I'll just disagree philosophically. Sticking it to the man = value added ;)

Re:Other Cartoon Network Programs are nice, but...

[bluetea]

In any case, 90% of what CN broadcasts are reruns; I'm sure that viewership of reruns is where cartoon network gets most of its ad revenue - even for CN original programming. Space Ghost and Dexter's Lab, although available from Kazaa, haven't yet reached the penetrance of Tenchi Muyo, so I'm not tempted to just watch downloaded versions instead.

That's probably true about the reruns, but I think it has as much to do with the format as anything else. Given the number/frequency of CN shows they run, it's not surprising that they're going to run low on content. Animation is more time-intensive to create than the average syndicated sitcom after all. "Very few cartoons are done live, Mr. Simpson. It puts a terrible strain on the animators." :)

Personally, however, p2p really has damped my interest in CN anime offerings - pretty much completely. For shows that I like but don't feel the need to watch as soon as they're newly broadcast - Space Ghost is a prime example - I'd prefer p2p as well, if they were widely available. I think this is a trend.

I think you're right, but what you're really talking about is video (or content) on demand. p2p is just one possible mechanism for delivering it (although right now it is one of the most attractive). Tivo is a step in this direction too. Obviously, it's going to be much more attractive to watch what you want to watch when you want to watch it than to be tied to static content decided on by broadcast execs. The real question is who is going to control what is made available. The attraction of p2p over the other delivery mechanisms available right now is that it puts this control in the hands of the end user.

No new Dexter or Big O?

[st63z]

Has Genndy's excellent Dexter's Laboratory been cancelled? What, low ratings, or not enough resources to share with PowerPuff and Samurai Jack? It already sucks that they recently changed most of the voice actors and animators (why was that anyway?), sheesh... Also, will there be any new production of Big O from Japan (besides the meager 13 eps in existence)? Bebop's excellent, but from what I hear the end is quite final. Outlaw Star's also had a pretty good run. But Big O definitely needs more eps to flesh out the backstory and too see more interactions among the characters and such. The last ep left you excited and wanting to see more!

Re:No new Dexter or Big O?

[anball]

I was also eager to see new episodes of BIG O, but from what I've read, there isn't a plan for creating new ones. I guess not enough people were into BIG O and CN decided to pull it. It's really too bad...

Re:No new Dexter or Big O?

[Maul]

There is a Cowboy Bebop movie called "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" which takes place in the story continuity somewhere before the two last episodes of the TV show.

As you said, the ending of the show is final.
Bebop wasn't designed to be a long running franchise.

Live chat with AintItCool.com on IRC

[timshea]

The official IRC channel for aintitcool.com resides at:

Server: irc.chat-solutions.org
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TMNT

[bonch]

Personally, I'm looking forward to the new TMNT series coming out. It'll be done by the team that did Batman Beyond. The cool part is that it will be returning to the dark style of the original comic book. And no Venus!

An entirely CG feature film is also in the works.

Where is Welcome to Eltingville?

[Chemical]

I was fortunate enough to catch Welcome to Eltinville, and I must say it was absolutly brilliant. At the top of the article, it mentions the show and how many people wrote in asking when more episodes would be on, but there is no mention of the show anywhere in the lineup. What's up with that? Besides Sealab 2021, this is probably the best thing I have seen on Cartoon Network. I hope CN has some plans for new episodes and that it wasn't one of those one time deals.

El mono mario

[rbreve]

El mono mario la pone cooooooon : SKIN

the best cartoons ever...warning: in spanish only!

itinerary lacking

[Basil Ganglia]

Sadly, they make no mention of "Reboot". http://www.mainframe.ca/ Wish they'd bring it back...or sell the rights to SciFi channel.

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

[Rhinobird]

I'm tired of waiting! I want to see the new dragonball z episodes NOW. I want to see the Two Towers NOW. I hope they play that Cowboy Bebop movie sometime...

Aqua Teen Hunger Force...

[alexgp]

Assemble!

Re:Aqua Teen Hunger Force...

[oghmagod]

By far the best show on TV. I didn't think ATHF was that funny until I saw episode 4 (The Bus of the Undead!) Then, I went back and reviewed the rest of the lineup and they got a lot better for some reason.

Der bus - der untoten.

what is aint it cool?

[Anonymous Coward]

and why do we care?

YuYu Hakusho

[ProfBooty]

Its a big fighting anime, just like dragonballz. its 100+ episodes. just wait for it to pick up a bit.