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Doom Ported to Nokia phone

HellKrisp writes "UK based game developers WildPalm have released a port of id software's Doom for the Nokia 7650. Features of the port include audio support and bilinear filtering. The download weighs in at around 1.5MB as it is just the shareware version featuring only the first episode. The port was made using the source code publicly released by id software in 1997."

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  1. Oh Great... by Night0wl · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now people can kill people while driving while using their phones... ...

    Wait a minute..

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    1. Re:Oh Great... by darkov · · Score: 2

      Now people can kill people while driving while using their phones...

      And kill themselves too...

  2. Gives new meaning... by papasui · · Score: 5, Funny

    to drive-by shooting. :)

  3. Ahh... No multiplayer? by Hays · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This seems like the a great port for multiplayer reasons, but that's not mentioned anywhere on the page.

    I guess modem play wouldn't work? Hmm... Well there has to be some way to port the multiplayer. Whether people would want to burn up their minutes to kill their friends on their phones is another story (I would)

    1. Re:Ahh... No multiplayer? by Night0wl · · Score: 5, Funny

      God I hope not.
      Cruising down the highway at 65Mph. You kill the guy in the beat up shitty truck 3 lanes over and a few feet back.
      He finally snaps, hangs up his phone, and procedes to side swipe you while yelling, "YOU FUCKING HACKER" out his window...

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    2. Re:Ahh... No multiplayer? by rwoodford · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They could use bluetooth for that. You could hop from game to game as you discovered new networks or devices.

    3. Re:Ahh... No multiplayer? by CvD · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That's why you have BlueTooth/IR on phones. That would make multiplayer possible, while not using the actual phone network. On the Nokia 6310 (amongst others) you can play snake against eachother using the IR link. It's pretty cool.

      Cheers,

      Costyn.

    4. Re:Ahh... No multiplayer? by hero_or_what · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Since it is ported to a mobile phone, it would
      be really cool if it could use some location based
      service and convert doom into a multiplayer +
      multilocation game.

      For example, if the player was in a particular
      mall or playground then the level would automatically be X but it would different if the player was at home.If this can be done, porting doom to a mobile phone will really make sense. Otherwise, we will end up just playing the same on a smaller screen. No real kick there.

    5. Re:Ahh... No multiplayer? by HisMother · · Score: 2


      This would be a way to "port" GTA to the Nokia, as well!

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  4. Doom III by sik0fewl · · Score: 4, Funny

    So when can I play my Doom III pre-alpha on one of these things?

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    1. Re:Doom III by hoagieslapper · · Score: 5, Funny

      When you can make a beowolf cluster out of the phones.

  5. This is the last thing we need... by Navius+Eurisko · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now when some business exec goes on an office rampage, the media can blame the Doom port on his cellphone!

  6. Oh the Commericals! by DarkHelmet · · Score: 5, Funny
    I'm reminded of that Sprint commercial where the guy is like:

    You were bored so you decided to do some kung fu.

    I'm can now imagine some guy running around with a gun shooting people, then the sprint guy comes up and goes:

    You were bored, so you decided to play a little doom.

    I bet that'll be a BIG hit in Columbine. </sarcasm>

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  7. New test for feature completeness by Butterwaffle+Biff · · Score: 3, Funny
    It used to be that a product was feature complete when you could use it to check your e-mail. Since cell phones had that first, it seems they're upping the ante:
    A product is not feature-complete unless you can play Doom with it
  8. Snake and memory.. by Malduin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I was content with snake and memory on my phone. Now it's just not going to be the same knowing that a classic FPS can be played on a cell phone!

    Heh, enable bluetooth or something similar and play multiplayer with the guy sitting next to you in the airport or something.

    I still wish I had a port of the Gameboy version of Tetris on my phone music and all.

  9. quick reset by updog · · Score: 5, Funny
    The DOOM 7650 Upgrade automatically includes support for sound without having to install our other games, and adds the following features:

    Start Mission Selection

    3 Additional Game Modes:

    Chainsaw Massacre, Killer Arsenal, God Mode

    Quick Reset, when not enough memory is available

    heh, i bet the Quick Reset feature was easy to implement :)

  10. framerate? by 2ms · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Anyone know? It's sweet if playable, but no fun if killing batteries for 1 fps.

    1. Re:framerate? by jon_eaves · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I've seen it. I've played it. It's awesome.
      I was talking at a Nokia Developer Day (about Java in mobile phones), and was talking to another developer about choosing the appropriate games and applications to write to put on the phones.
      I actually said, "It's not like you'll want to play Quake on a phone", and they showed me the Doom port.
      It's pretty sweet, but using the little joystick thingy didn't make for a greatly easy gaming experience.

  11. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 4, Funny

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  12. Dont forget. by packeteer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Id Software also released the source to Doom';s 1&2, Quakes 1&2, and i believe Wolfenstien. This is why i want to go ahead and pay full price for Id Software. You can almost call their business a sucessful open source model.

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    1. Re:Dont forget. by packeteer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Ok here is how i say that. They make money. The source is open (eventually). They make a whole lot more money than open source companies do and personally i wouldn't mind if every company did what they are doing.

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    2. Re:Dont forget. by packeteer · · Score: 2

      ID software supplies the binary code to Quake 3 too. I went to their website and downloaded the entire game. Try ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com. Cruise over to the Q3 section and download the Linux native binaries. All you need is a WAD file. Its the whole game for free but is unplayable unless you have the WAD which is only on the CD which you must pay for. Although the source isn't open YET clearly they understand you cant keep an engine locked up. They are fine just controlling the WAD.

      BTW if you dont know what the WAD is ill explain. Its simply a file with all the media on it. It has all the maps/monsters/graphics. You can even go into the WAD file and change the pics t change the game without messing anything up.

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  13. I wonder how much money they'll make... by Chris+Burke · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ten dollars isn't a lot of money, but then again Doom is an old game, and all you get for the $10 is an upgrade with better rendering. I'd think they'd do better just charging $10 up front. Also, is this a port of the GPL code base, or did they actually pay iD for a non-GPL code license?

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    1. Re:I wonder how much money they'll make... by lpontiac · · Score: 2
      If I remember correctly, Doom wasn't released under the GPL. It was released under some other license (maybe id's own?) but the most obvious difference was that it didn't require developers to release their source code

      IIRC, it didn't allow commercial exploitation either. So this Nokia port must be either GPLed, or they bought a separate license from id.

  14. Shocking by Deanasc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I hope it takes advantage of vibrate mode to further enhance play.

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    1. Re:Shocking by Longinus · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you're getting off to Doom, you've got bigger problems just being trained to be a serial killer ;-).

      I reccommened Rez Special Edition with Trance Vibrator for all your "stimulating" videogaming needs...I mean your sore back...right...

    2. Re:Shocking by Longinus · · Score: 3, Funny

      Wait...I just realized your post was a legitimate suggestion that could honestly enhance the gameplay experience...my mind must really be in the gutter.

  15. Cheat codes? by trentfoley · · Score: 5, Funny

    To begin with, I hate entering text in phones. For me to have any fun playing Doom, I'll have to press 444 3 3 77 3 to start off with, and then 444 3 55 333 2 repeatedly thereafter. No thanks.

    1. Re:Cheat codes? by tangent3 · · Score: 2

      Not a problem, just insert iddqd, idkfa, idspispopd, idbehold or whatever into the T9 dictionary and you only need to press 43373, 43532, 43774777673 etc.

  16. New commercial... by sigma · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can you frag me now? Good!

  17. Can someone explain this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How legit is this? I mean, the port is fine, but they are charging for the "update". Yes, id software released the source code, but is this allowed? (Did they release it under GPL or some other license?)

    Also, I'm assuming they're distributing the original binary data for the levels (is THAT allowed?) yet at the bottom they urge you to buy the original version of Doom if you like the software. huh??

  18. IDSPISPOPD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    How do I type this in?

  19. doom phone calls by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Funny

    hey bob, are you there? can you hear me? hey bob, bob?

    POW
    gurglegurgle gurglegurgle
    POW
    oooohh
    RYUNK
    POW
    uuuh uuuh
    POW
    oomph
    POW
    gurglegurgle gurglegurgle
    POW
    gurglegurgle gurglegurgle
    oomph
    shreooooww
    POW
    shreooooooow w
    oomph
    SCROTCH
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH

    oh yeah, i'm here, where are you?

    what the hell was that bob?

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  20. A total waste... by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 3, Insightful
    ...all I want is good, simple, colorfull, plentyfull pr0n. Enough with all this "gaming" and "calling" and "talking" on phones.

    1. Re:A total waste... by yatest5 · · Score: 2
      all I want is good, simple, colorfull, plentyfull pr0n.

      The 7650 has a camera. I give it 12 months before half the drunk teenagers in America has nude pics of themselves posted on the net somewhere.

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  21. I know something that isnt quite complete.... by Catskul · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can you play doom on Emacs ?

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    1. Re:I know something that isnt quite complete.... by Erik+Hollensbe · · Score: 2

      No, but with the power of aa-lib and aaQuake (i think that's what it's called), you can play it in a n eshell. :)

      EMACS IS THE OS, ALL YOUR S-EXPRESSIONS BELONG TO US

    2. Re:I know something that isnt quite complete.... by egreB · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's called ttyquake or Textmode-Quake, depending on who you ask. Anyway, it's located here, and is sick, sick, sick. Quite cool.

  22. In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I ported Wolf 3D to my blender. You gotta use the blender settings for moving and shooting, but it's all good.

    When the cyber demon enters the room, the blender goes into overdrive. It's insane. Toss some fruits in at the same time and by the time your game is over you got yourself a nice shake. Have it for breakfast, lunch, and then a sensible dinner and your on your way to losing weight and feeling great--just ask Tommy Lasorda.

  23. Ported loooong ago by scubacuda · · Score: 3, Informative
    When I got a Nokia 9290 last year, it had already DOOM installed on it.

  24. ahhh Precious thumbs... by trentfoley · · Score: 2
    Maybe you're on to something there. When typing, my right thumb is used only for the space bar, and the left thumb just hangs out being ballast or whatever.

    And, I always lost at "thumbs" games when I was a kid.

    It sucks being thumb-challenged as the cool gadgets get smaller and smaller.

  25. Plagues of cell phones by zuggy · · Score: 2, Funny

    first is was tunnels and static
    then roaming charges and digital loss
    now getting fragged by a cyberdemon on the I5

    I wonder in punching in `idbeholdf' will drop long distance charges?

  26. Communicator Doom! by hispula · · Score: 3, Informative

    Doom was actually earlier ported to a Nokia phone, namely the Communicator 9210. There was also a C64 Emulator available to Communicator, which might be a lot cooler and have an endless amount of classic games.

    Unfortunately I had an earlier 9110 model of Communicator, but it had a cool emulator for old Infocom text adventure games as well as Space Invaders.

  27. ::rolls eyes:: by Ciel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Helpful Rhetoric Tip #235: when attempting to take the moral high ground via critical commentary, punctuating one's sentences with racial slurs is ill-advised. Likewise, squawking from the shadows is to be avoided.

    Never mind that your spiteful little snipe is pretty poorly considered: the Quake II source is hardly obsolete - even Doom represents a very viable platform for game development (as I think the topic article demonstrates, no?). Besides, if anything you should praising Id's code release policy. First, games aren't apps with "essential functionality" (even Stallman has a hard time getting worked up over game code), so the concerns that prompted the development of the GPL are really not even applicable here. Second, unlike, say, Sun or IBM, Id's divulgence of its code is an act of pure magnanimity to students and entry level developers - that is, truly in the spirit of free software. By contrast, the typical poster boys like Sun and IBM are quite unabashed in their use of the GPL for purely self-interested reasons, usually screwing with Microsoft a bit or reducing their total cost of development for server systems.

  28. Re:Why the GPL? by zwoelfk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This shows why it wasn't smart for ID software to GPL outdated software, suddenly a new low-end market evolves and the software isn't outdated any more.

    So what? I don't ever remember reading John Carmack saying "We're releasing the Doom source because we don't think we can squeeze another drop from this cash-cow's tits" -- It was released because they were more-or-less done with it and wanted to share. Fast-forward to today with tons of loyal fans (both users and developers) and the cash to back it up, and I'm not sure it's wise to doubt whether or not the move was "smart".

    Of course if Id wants to say "Hey, we see a potential market for DoomIII on biotech implant PDAs in about fifteen years, so we have no plans on releasing the source," that's fine too.

    Or, you could just be trolling and I've wasted my breath.

  29. Hardcore gamers will want it all by CoderDevo · · Score: 3, Funny

    Neo enters the subway car and grabs a window seat.
    Pulls his Nokia 7650 out of his pocket.
    Pulls out mono headphones and jacks them into the phone.
    Pulls out a bluetooth optical mouse.
    Opens trenchcoat and pulls out a bluetooth keyboard.
    Takes off his sunglasses
    Proceeds to play a single player 1993 vintage 2.5D first person shooter on a 2 inch screen.

    Hmmm, I don't think it looks cool and it sure doesn't sound like fun.

  30. "Can you hear me now?" by Evil+Adrian · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Can you hear me now? BITCH?!?!"

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  31. Cell phones will destroy civilization. by PissedOffDolphins · · Score: 2, Funny

    Cell phones are going to become too smart for us one day, and it will end up being a Matrix type scenario. The phones will use really loud ring tones to destroy us. We will have to make a resistance group, and have Arnold travel back in time. And it will be the fault of Doom on cell phones.

    1. Re:Cell phones will destroy civilization. by pacc · · Score: 2

      You don't know what you are talking about, cellphones will bring Civilization to the state where it's merits are best enjoyed.

      Remember the first PC version? The current state of civilization for mobile phones brings back all the right memories...

  32. Perfect phone for Doom? by pacc · · Score: 4, Informative

    Nokia is launching a new phone with the same operating system as the 7650, but shaped like a portable gaming console.

    I'm not really impressed by any phone these days (wasn't we supposed to replace them all with 3G any day now?) but once in a while Nokia strikes the jackpot. Check out the 6800 phone with revolutionary keyboard-thingie. If it does run with the Symbian OS, I think it really could bring your PDA needs to your pocket.

  33. Human Factors by rovingeyes · · Score: 2, Interesting
    It is fun to read all these things but seriously has anyone ever thought whether all these games etc on a cell phone is all that important?

    First of all, even laptops batteries don't last more than a couple of hours. And I'm sure if a Doom fanatic sits playing it on cell (don't bother whether he can distinguish guns) he wouldn't get away from it atleast for next couple of hours. Well the battery dies and guess what, he would be actually waiting for a call from an interviewer or whether his wife is in labor yet.

    The next step would be obviously to stream movies... Well I've seen some models which can handle videos. Seriously, I cannot watch a movie on my 17'' monitor without complaining, how desperate can people can get to watch and play on the go. So far, wireless hasn't caught up like in Japan just becoz most people feel that this is quite unimportant.

    I'd say better make those networks and services better so that atleast people can hear "old movies" and not "monkey with cold". Games and movies on cell phones might sound good but practically I find them waste of time and resources.

  34. little joystick thingy improvement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    This phone should make controlling easier:

    http://nds1.nokia.com/press/photo/hot/jpeg/n_gag e_ hottopics_low.jpg
    http://press.nokia.com/PR/20021 1/880103_5.html

  35. How powerful mobile phones? by trenton · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I first played Doom in 1994 on a 486DX2-66 with 8 megs of ram. At the time, it was a pretty good computer, but it was no P-66. Doom ran damn well, though.

    Now, Nokias run the same game at adequate speed. Shouldn't I conclude the graphics and cpu capabilites equal those of my old desktop?

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    1. Re:How powerful mobile phones? by ShooterNeo · · Score: 2

      Actually, its quite possible the chip in the phone is several times faster than your old desktop.

    2. Re:How powerful mobile phones? by trenton · · Score: 2

      This amazes me. The reduction in power consumption alone is impressive.

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  36. WildPalm's next project... by Cheese+Cracker · · Score: 2

    ... will be to port Blue Max to American Standard's new digital toilet. BOMBS AWAY!

    (sorry for the double posting... forgot to turn on cookies)

  37. Nokia Doom - The Catches by Joel+Rowbottom · · Score: 4, Informative
    I've got a 7650 and thought I'd try out this version of Doom on it.

    Well, it's not too bad - certainly playable, although I couldn't get the sound to work. The catch is that it requires so much damn memory to run that you have to shut down *every* application on the phone, and free up as much memory as possible. So while it's installed, you can't even add addresses.

    Not worth it for me, but it's a nice gimmick. Shows what these devices are capable of if they had at least a little bit more memory in - 4MB isn't enough, are you listening Nokia? ;)

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  38. Re:Um, d00d. by JimPooley · · Score: 2

    I think the game was called 'Stuntman' - Maybe a 2D top down view conversion based on the 3D PS2 game?
    Maybe a motorola phone?

    I was reading somewhere that a lot of the new generation of mobiles use the same or a similar processor to a GameBoy Advance - so it should be easy to run the same kinds of games on them.

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  39. Nokia 9290 by kevlar · · Score: 2

    I have this on the Nokia 9290 Communicator. I was completely blown away by the fact that it plays better than on my first desktop. It makes any boring meeting/seminar/family event a thing of the past when you know you can just find a seat and whip out your phone. From what I've heard, its fully capable of multiplayer as well (even between PC and Phone), but I have not tried it.

  40. Convergence by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 2

    They're attacking this from the wrong direction.

    Small, handheld game systems already exist. Downsize a GBA by 10%, and put the phone bits inside one of those, instead of trying to futz a screen into a current phone.

    A Nokia/GameBoy would bring a whole lot of advantages. Current userbase, a lot of existing games, better graphics.

  41. Cell-plan problems? by phorm · · Score: 2

    I had a 386 computer. It played, but often enough I had to hit F5 (turn down detail) or lower the screenres a bit. Now they can play this thing on a phone? What exactly is the PC equivilency in the phones (CPU, RAM, etc)?

    While I'm not about to upgrade to a new phone just to play doom... I might keep it in mind when the next time to upgrade comes (as long as the phone is also a good phone).

    Some problems (forgive my pessimism)
    Once cellular-multiplayer versions of popular games comes out, I think that the cell phone companies are going to have some problems with plans like "Unlimited Evenings and Weekends". Airwaves in certain areas could very well start to get congested (as it is, I often cannot call out if I'm in a big city near a special event such as the yearly fireworks show, too many people on the phone).

    The local phone company actually snipped their "unlimited long-distance" plan to X-hundred minutes because of a problem in small cities. Residents would wait until weekends or after 7 to dial the nearest big city where there were "free internet" providers, and hog the lines until early morning hours doing downloads. I can forsee the same issues with cells and games, etc, and you get a whole bunch of people constantly online playing doom or Tetris.

    That day might be a ways away, but it is still a good possibility.

  42. why port? by Suppafly · · Score: 2

    As cool of a hack as this is, why bother to do a port to a cellphone. Surely they could have gotten better performance by doing new coding to simulate the same game play. Thats the reason games aren't ported to ti calculators, they are rewritten clones of the original games.

  43. Re:Just what we needed by falzer · · Score: 2

    You'll hear this:
    "To win the game, you must kill me, John Romero."

  44. Re:Why the GPL? by einTier · · Score: 2
    Or maybe, this product is being released precisely because it is in the public domain, and no one has to pay Id (or anyone else) royalties to use it. If they couldn't get Doom, it'd be some other piece of software that was GPL'd or freeware.


    As it is, now people are playing Doom again, and talking about Id, so it really is like free advertisement. I'd say it's actually helping them more than if they'd kept it locked up all these long years.

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  45. Non Nokia phones ? by BigAl_nz · · Score: 2

    I've got a Ericsson T68i ..., any chance of me being lucky?

    I want to play too :(

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  46. USA Support by ebresie · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sigh..and when will the USA be supported with all these cool new phones

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