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Trigun Coming to Cartoon Network
MoeMoe writes "Well I was just watching Cartoon Network and it looks like Trigun will begin airing in just a couple of weeks. The CN website gives a brief description here" Trigun is among my favorite anime series. It gets a little crazy by the end, but for the most part it's pretty lighthearted fun, with some great action. CN sure seems to love the Anime Sci Fi Westerns. I wonder if they'll carry some of the fluffier stuff besides Tenchi. Love Hina would be a fun choice. Or Excel Saga.
I mean really. I think the cartoon network would get a lot more viewers if they didn't air stuff that everyone's seen a million times before.
For those that havn't seen it, though, Trigun is very cool.
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The funny thing about trigun is that the first 12 episodes are almost all filler and the last 12 are all the content. you could skip the first 12 and still totally understand the whole story.
So if you dont like it at first hang in there...the sci-fi story that kicks in around ep 12 is really cool.
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It's about time CN got another good anime series on. Can't go much better than Trigun, considering its target audience. Though after watching the Japanese subbed version, I think it'll lose a bit. . .
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I used to watch anime all the bloody time, read fan translated mangas, etc. etc., but I just eventually lost intrest. Perhaps seeing all these great anime shows on local television will rekindle my intrest. Hopefully the voices won't be horrible - that's one of the things that turned me off back in the day.
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(For those who don't know, Love Hina is considered a "harem" anime, where all of the girls at one part or another are interested in the main character, who is usually a loser. I consider it a "fan service revenge" anime, because as soon as there is fan service, someone ends up paying for it, usually the aforementioned loser main character. I still enjoy the series, however.)
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What I don't understand is how these shows are targetted at adults, yet still have many of the restrictions that children's shows have. I mean, look at a prime time show on FOX. Probably a lot more violent and with more sexually suggestive dialogue/scenes than an anime, yet anime aired in North America still gets heavily edited - even for trivial things like someone drinking water instead of beer.
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How is it that Trigun's arrival on Cartoon Network gets more press than Dilbert's? Oh wait... one has merit.
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The series starts of quite wacky and goofy, but gets darker and deeper as the story progresses. Its easily one of my favorite series. --CmdrTaco.
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Excel saga has some innuendo that cartoon network (if they had it) might filter out it, which would ruin the whole feel of the anime. I wish they'd do oh my goddess, or go with NG-Eva.
Oh, and it is going to be dubbed... bleh... not worth spending your time on anyway.
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Probably because when people hear "Cartoon Network," the initial reaction is that whatever is shown will be appropriate for children.
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Watching the "We Make Hackers Obsolete" Ad is enough light-hearted fun/joke for me. They should air that AD on Cartoon Network. Even my 5 yr old Linux Saavy newphew will have a good laugh.
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The first few episodes introduced vash, the kind of man he is, the world he lives in, and a lot more. You can't just jump in to the next 14 because you miss out on some basic info related to the series. Besides they were entertaining... my favorite eps are the first few.
Hmmm... Pie...
for the most part it's pretty lighthearted fun
Isn't that what Dr. Mengle said?
not really.
It sort of seems that way, but if you finish watching the whole thing, then you take a breather and then watch the entire series again, you'll see almost from the very beginning that there are clues and other hints that Vash isn't the ditz that he makes himself out to be.
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Erm, hate to tell you, but these shows were all originally targetted at children ;)
I have to say that Trigun is almost perfect for Cartoon Network: Most of it is light, with a character who's a really good guy, unlike many anime heroes who can be a bit morally ambiguous (for the unititiated: Vash doesn't believe in killing, and doesn't do so until the last few episodes).
There's not much that will need to get cut, rither. I can't think of any nudity that will need to be painted over. I'm pretty positive neither Meryl or Milly ever take a trip to the public baths. There's some drinking, but I'm pretty sure CN lets that slide.
They might even be able to air this one on primetime after a while.
I couldn't agree with you more. I stopped watching DBZ on CN when they started to enlarge the swimsuits on the characters. Why, because the editing jobs were pointless and poorly executed, leaving those damn jiggles. Further more, I could change the channel and watch something far worse.
... now why in the hell would that be edited?
Decided to watch CN again. Apperently they can't show the word beer either, so they made it root beer. How annoying. Want to know something funny though, I've read maybe three Learn-to-Speak-Japanese books, and the word beer (biru) was always taught in the first chapter^^. Anyway, that really annoyed me, so I changed the channel and stumbled upon an episode of NYPDBlue, the one with full nudity during primtime hours.
Even watched adult swim for a while. Still don't know why it's called adult swim, nothing I can't see on FOX at 6 in the afternoon. I was watching this one show (about a girl who travels back in time to figh demons or something) and they couldn't even say idiot. They said "igeeot"
Anywayz, I've stopped going to CN for my anime needs. Instead I swap dvds with my friends, or download unliscened animes from http://www.animetorrents.com (and it's actually legal too!) ---- My favorite being Naruto.
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Truthfully, Excel Saga wouldn't work on CN unless they included the AD-Vid Notes from the DVDs. Too many jokes just don't make sense, or aren't even recognized to the majority of Americans with little or no knowledge of Japanese culture and media.
Besides, since it would likely end up running in English, it presents a bit of a problem. While Kotono Mitsuishi's Excel is simply excellent, Jessica Calvello's performance was quite good. HOWEVER, since she was replaced by Larissa Wolcott (I believe by the 5th DVD), the English dub has been knocked down a few points in my book. A decent dub almost became a sub-standard dub, not necessarily due to Ms. Wolcott's performance, but the simple fact that the roles had been switched so late in the series.
Love Hina, on the other hand, is an even worse situation when you consider it running on CN. I think they'd have to break their rules and run it in Japanese, as the English dub is quite awful, even without being compared to the Japanese track. People like David Lucas and Wendee Lee (both of whom did excellent dubbing jobs with Bebop) should've avoided this project like the plague. Hm...then again, The Black Death does seem quite appetizing when compared to watching a single episode of that in English... =P
There's an interview with a writer/producer for Toonami here that discusses the topic.
Cowboy Bebop is the one exception (among what I belive CN shows). Several of it's (better) episodes weren't even televised in Japan, because they were considered too violent.
And even that is aimed at young adults.
As an otaku, my opinion comes off as wretched bombast, but Love Hina? Excel Saga? Even Trigun? Compared to what could be imported stateside, these shows are really just excoriable pablum. If CN were really shrewd (which I am becoming more and more convinced they are not), they would license a show that a) actually had more than 26 episodes so i don't have to watch asteroid blues 298347923874 times, and b) is not continuity-dependent, so burgeoning anime enthusiasts don't need to sit in front of out-of-order reruns pretending to understand what's going on, their eyes glazing over from the strain of convincing themselves that what they are watching is actually really cool, when in fact it is totally unintelligible. They did a great thing bringing Lupin over, but CN's commitment to anime is still only a half-measure that is continuing to misrepresent anime to the point where only a select kind of generic space-oriented silliness will be imported. "Pilot Candidate"? Feh. Also, meh.
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In Japan, voice actors actually have some prestige. It's a job people want to be. I can think of a few, like Megumi Hayashibara, whom is an idol out there. People love her! She's Ranma, Lina, or Lime. She's a million other characters, and she's a goddess!
Why is it when these great shows come here, they try to do a quick voiceover, and just get it out. I've been fansubbing for a long time now, and I cringe when I hear dubbed anime. There are very few shows that I've seen that I can even think of watching in english. Ranma 1/2 for one, wasn't terribly bad, but I don't have a clue who the english voice actors are.
I guess I want to know why such a great form of entertainment, and a job thats so honored where the entertainment comes from, gets the back burner here. Is it because they're trying to gear it for children and they feel that children don't need the emotion or force that normally becomes the character, or is it just that they want to save money and time by hiring someone off the street to quickly say the lines and send it to production?
What do you think?
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Most Americans already have a rather xenophobic attitude towards Japanese entertainment (both Fark and Portalofevil regularly herald Japanese TV insanity), so I would imagine CN is taking a conservative, canny approach to ensure that there is absolutely no backlash against them continuing to import these extremely cheap, high-rated shows. Give it a little time ... once shows like Lain and Shaman King start making it on TV, we'll see a relaxed attitude towards those wonderful vices anime endorses. For now, let them do what they want, this is more anime than any of use ever thought we'd see on US TV.
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It's far from legal - copyright law on Japanese material extends beyond the borders of Japan. Fansub distribution ethics aren't the law. Downloading anime is as legal as downloading American movies.
Trigun is probably my favorite series. The show has all I look for: good characters and character development, silliness, seriousness, empathy, sympathy, apathy [all the pathies :)] and a good flowing storyline. I will admit that I thought this series was going to be nothing but
overexagerated expressions and childish antics. I was way wrong. I watched the entire series in two nights (I watched about 17 or 18 episodes on the second night alone.) This series totally engrossed my attention. (The dub is excellent!)
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I'm really excited to see CN bring Trigun on board, but I wish they'd do something for anime like what they did for the older cartoons on Boomerang. Just devote a whole freakin subcription channel to anime only. I'd sure as hell pay for it.
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I have it from a reliable source that the dubbed voices are very good. I downloaded the subs, and my heart sank as soon as i thought about dubs. However, the series' story and characters are so good that bad voicing might be able to be overlooked. Trigun is one of the better animes I've ever watched; it and Tenchi have the only characters that made me care.
You'd have to be a pretty fucking stupid parent to assume that the shows would be appropriate for small children
You mean sort of like the parents who buy their kids grand theft auto, because they just have no fucking clue... these parents are the ones who make me wonder if parenthood training and licensing would be worth it.
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Hayashibara Megumi is actually regarded as THE prestige seiyuu to have on board a voice cast in Japan. She is the equivalent of June Foray or the late Mel Blanc and Daws Butler in America...she's more than a seiyuu, she actually represents the whole craft in Japan.
My favorite Hayashibara performance is Nuku Nuku. She conveys the sense of both a cute and cuddly character and her inner strength. Nuku Nuku is at once a kitten and a tiger. If you don't believe me, buy the DVD and listen to the Japanese track with English subtitles. Second favorite performance would be the otherworldly Ayanami Rei from Shin Seiki Evangelion. Least favorite would be Faye Valentine from Cowboy Bebop...Megumi-san can't do hard-boiled. Faye has to be both tough and world-weary. It's just not her forte.
The problem with the whole craft of voice acting in America is that radio drama is almost completely dead here. That's the source of people like Blanc, Butler, Foray and Stan Freberg. If, as some have suggested, the lost art of radio drama could be revived using the Internet as a low cost means of distribution, texts from places like Project Gutenberg as a potential source of material, and open source audio software as a means of production, maybe there is hope for the future of radio drama.
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I talked with Obi-Wan tonight, as the fires were dying and the celebration waned. My teacher spoke wisely, and my resolve was strengthened before it could be tested. Before Han left me in the darkness, lips lingering over mine, comforting me for the loss of something I never really had. Too many times I've rushed ahead without a thought for the consequences. Even when warned by those wiser and stronger, I thought I knew best. Headstrong, Master Yoda called me. Reckless. I'm done with all that now. It would be easy for me to set my destiny aside and give up on living the life of a Jedi. I saw myself on that other path tonight, when Han was next to me, his passion cutting through my soul, every thrust a plea for a different kind of future. I once dreamed of being at his side, free among the stars, chasing the temporary, discovering the moment. Reality led to the crisp edges of disaster, where cost outweighed romantic illusion, and dreams shattered into obligations. I've been fighting for this very moment to come, the moment when all of us would be free to make our choices. Leia will choose the one thing she was born to do - she will lead the new Republic which will rise from the tatters of this small rebellion. Han... I don't know what path he'll choose. Perhaps he would have stayed, if he'd been given a reason. Now I dread his departure. I half expect to find him gone when this night is over. I wonder what he'll say to Leia, what she'll feel, but I haven't the strength to think that far ahead. I strayed away from the joy, still too close to darkness to celebrate this day. I defeated my father, saved him, lost him, and the sharpness is no less severe because of the evil he embodied as Vader. When I stood by his pyre, watching his body consumed by the flames, I wondered who he'd been before he was this corpse, this thing to be sacrificed for the greater good. I rejoiced to see my friends alive... my sister... but I could not draw myself away from the inevitable. I called to Obi-Wan as Yoda taught me, and he was there, more in my mind than the shifting icy apparition he's been in the past. I resisted the urge to ask the same nagging question - *what are you now?* -- and focused on the issue of training, of talent, of what could be done now that there is no one to direct me in the ways of the Force. Ben was clear on many points, but he held firm to one thing in particular. I am chosen to lead the way for generations of new Jedi, to find and train them. If I abandon this task, others may be identified and turned to the Dark Side. I'm not sure I'm as ready as Obi-Wan seems to think I am. I'm crushed underneath the expectations of an entire galaxy. It's too much. I can't allow Han to pay the potential price of my selfish need. And I can't afford the distraction, and the consequences, love brings. The taint of my father's deeds is a painful legacy, and redemption must be a task I undertake alone. As a matter of course, Han came looking for me. I knew he would, knew he was coming for me before he exhaled the breath that brought him to his feet and down the bridge. I've always known what he feels for me, even when he wasn't fully conscious of it, even when he was trying to pawn those feelings off on Leia. I'm not the innocent I once was. That boy disappeared a piece at a time in the hangars of Hoth, the swamps of Dagobah, the thin air of Bespin, the flames of the pyre. "What's going on?" he asked me, that half-crooked grin lighting his face. "I've had some thinking to do," I answered him truthfully, feeling the warmth of that friendly grin in places it shouldn't be. "You're missing the party." Funny how sometimes with Han, what he doesn't say echoes louder in my mind than what he does. /I missed you./
"Sorry, Han." I meant the apology, but I don't think he understood. "It's not over, you know."
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They just weren't targeted to American children, those poor fragile things.
I love Anime but I don't honestly think I've seen a single one all the way through that didn't get a little crazy by the end. I think he just described every single Anime series ever produced!
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Sanity is overrated. Sometimes utter mindless lunacy can be entertaining too.
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I think I know you in person. Or someone like you. Are you one of those humourless bores who refuses to watch anything funnier and more action-filled than Wings of Honneamise?
And before you relaliate with some snarky comment about possible DBZ fandom on my part (which is untrue), let me say that I also appreciate some of the less well known gems of anime. Grave of the Fireflies and Azumanga Daioh come to mind.
Offtopic, but I think Grave of the Fireflies should be required viewing in high school history classes throughout the world.
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And the main character's mother getting blasted with two crossdressers?
Either way, TriGun doesn't really have much in the way of drinking. Just milly buying a lot of pudding and such.
It's about a tormented super anime hero, who despite his vast skills and power can't always defend those around him even if they happen to be main characters (see Wolfwood).
He can't even live up to his own standards (see Legato.) Which gives it a nice ring.
The gungho guns and their interplay with each other is pretty cool to.
As far as the moral/educational goes. *shrug* Well if you're going to be watching anime based on that critera you'd best go watch Hamtoro.
(If nothing else it'll give you the message not to smoke crack.)
Although I like Excel Saga because its funny it is honestly problematic to show on Cartoon Network. Two big things off the top of my head are:
- PC Alert: Pedro. Although I'm not terribly conerned about being politically correct, some of the jokes around him were definately flat and sometimes made me squirm. Making fun of a Latin American immigrant worker subject to the random bad luck just doesn't work so well in the US.
- Major portion of the fun around Excel Saga is the fact it pokes fun at Anime and Manga conventions. If you don't realize that there was an old magical girl show called Minky Momo wouldn't realize that Excel getting creamed by a garbage truck was funny. Nor would you get the multiple multiple other anime references and spoofs. The average CN watcher just isn't as versed and will wonder why some of the strange moments are funny.
As for Trigun its good stuff for Cartoon Network. Vash is a good man and the show clearly shows it. It has no nudity and is generally light hearted approach to things. Vash is a good hero and his friends remain true. Its really a nice show to show to people.
I was looking at Cartoon Network's schedule, and it looks like, starting April 20th, Cartoon Network is getting rid of The Oblongs and Home Movies and will start showing Family Guy in the 11:30 timeslot Sun-Thu. How tight is that?
He isn't referring to that. He's referring to the way CN will (for example) get three episodes into Tenchi Universe, then not show it for six months or so.
I thought it was funny when they brought back *gasp* Robotech for Giant Robot Week, made a big deal about it--and all they showed were the final 3 episodes of the final series. Yes, I know Robotech was the hybrid from 3 different anime, but I don't care, I was looking forward to it. I mean, let's be honest, they're never going to release Genesis Climber Mospeada here, how else would I see it?
I agree that I dislike the whole uber powerful superman genre (see GI Joe, et al.), but only if the physical conflict is the point. In Trigun, though, the physical contact is almost never the point. Any time Vash is involved, in fact, the physical confrontation is more for comic relief or some other device. For me, Trigun was about the attempts of a man to live a moral life in a morally compromised world. Whether or not he could defeat his enemies was only really in question twice (both the Hornfreak and Knives had him on the ropes).
Also, if you didn't see any character growth in there, my gawd. Meryl, Millie, Wolfwood, and a host of minor characters all show a great deal of growth. Vash, too, battles an, at times, intense inner struggle that comes to a head near the end. It was the inner world that was important in Trigun, the outer world more often than not provided a needed rest from the intense emotional action.
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I felt as you do 100% about voices before I saw Cowboy BeBop on DVD...
I watch all foreign movies in the original language, German or Japanese or whatever. For some reason though with Cowboy BeBop, I actually liked the voices of the main characters better in the english dubbed version! It has made my stance on the whole thing a bit softer...
Still, most movies it's just way better to listen to the original actors/voices. I shall never forget the horror when I tried listening to the english dubbed "Run Lola Run" after having watched the whole thing in German beforehand...
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some Friends and I are tempted to Cosplay as the Trigun bunch and hit up Krispy Creme Donuts after it has aired for a couple days. Wonder if the Staff there will get the joke :D
it's not at all artsy fartsy groaning. I'm very aware that not all anime will fly in this country. To use your examples, Grave of the Fireflies is powerful (in a heavy-handed, drill-the-point-home-with-a-dremel kind of way), and Azumanga is indeed genius. But the former is just a ridiculously depressing war story, and the latter is a show all about girls concerning themselves with things other than boys for once. Neither makes sense on american tv, though both are great.
And yes, as an otaku i do prefer sequential anime, but that's because i can watch shows on my own schedule. it's not a broadcast model suitable for US cable right now, though. until networks like CN are ready to make a real commitment to marketing these shows as a sequential event (like a mini-series is publicized), continuous story arcs don't make sense. I'd much rather see something like Doraemon, Ranma, Tonde Buurin or any syndicated-style show that doesn't rely so much on sex or violence (which CN edits out anyway!)
And when will we get Ninja Scroll shown already? Talk about drawing in an audience for anime, there is no better film to show. Has the upcoming TV series been picked up yet?
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For the love of pete! Not CN again!!
They ALWAYS butcher things up.
Not to mention I don't like to watch ANYTHING dubbed other than the original language (at least in english anyways; I can deal with American movies dubbed in other languages....). Why can't they use the SAP mode to air both english (for those loonies) and Japanese (true anime connoisseurs) and subtitles in the closed-captioning block of it? Of course, like all things out of our control; if it makes sense, it ain't happening.
O well....at least I have my Trigun (R2 - Japanese) DVDs which cost me an arm and half a leg and my Excel Saga (R2 - Japanese) that cost twice that...plus my limited edition Berserk (R2 - Japanese) DVD set which cost me a part of my soul and my Those Who Hunt Elves I&II + extra fan-bonus DVDs; yup, you guessed it, the rest of my soul. Awww....I love my R2 DVDs. Speaking of which, I should borrow my friends Chobits (R2) DVDs and watch them over and over.
I kinda want to get Slayers (1st one, NEXT, and TRY) on DVD (though I have TRY and part of NEXT on LD back home), but lack of funds prevent it (and no...no R1 anime dvds for me).
And awww...the joys of being bilingual. I've gotta remind myself to thank my parents.
It's Japan. They have different moral values. We don't live in one big culture. Live with it. But keep reading, I've got more to say that might interest you.
Firstly, I haven't seen a lot of anime, as I'm fairly selective and only watch the good stuff. But of those I've seen I haven't had a problem with the sexuality, and that includes Love Hina (although I found the bouncing boobies in the original Gundam Seed opening a bit much. But hey, I'm a legs man). I even watched a couple of episodes of GTO at a local anime club. Meh. It helped that there was an interview with the series creator before the showing; it allowed me to see the intelligence behind all the "perverted" stuff going on.
Artists explore taboo in their artwork. We've been doing it forever, and that's part of what makes art interesting. It doesn't mean that the artists are pervs/murderers, it's just an expression, it's art. Live with it, it helps make the world go round.
I don't find the anime's exploration of sexuality offensive. But I do find Hollywood's obbsession with violence very offensive. I generally steer away from action movies, but I've watched a few. Die Harder was great. Assassins was excellent (though not popular).
But there was one movie, I don't remember the name anymore, some Snipes flick (you know, typical "ONE MAN must SAVE US ALL"), where the gore was just over the top. The setting wasn't a gory movie, he was an agent of some kind, and, while violence was expected, gushing blood and having the bad guys get killed by steel beams smashing through their windshield and heads, and their car exploding, while Snipes looks back with a "serves them right" face, is just too fucking sickening. Everything in the movie was like that. Shit like that just gets rated R, where it's basically a porno of action movies.
And why was Assassins not popular? The common cry was, there was not enough killing. I, who did not care for such things, thought it was fantastic. Cool and calculated, moody, with character development - something rarely found in the cookie-cutter characters of today's Hollywood movies. Perhaps the movie was not that great; I was young then and my tastes have grown. But lamenting it because there was not enough killing is stupid, but obviously, that was what the market wants. And assassins don't kill people left and right, they take targets down one at a time. You're not going to find a lot of blood in such a movie.
Some artists in a culture are not as smart as others. Some, while in a culture that loves watching violence, will end up making crap like that Snipes movie. Some, in a culture that finds sexuality taboo, will make perverted crap.
The Japanese created Street Fighter. In response, Americans created Mortal Kombat, which was very popular in North America (heh, more dull wombat. ah, the memories. I hated that game, too offensive). Japanese like boobies. Americans like blood. Which is better? You can't honestly answer that.
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If they use the English dubbed version, I'm sure as hell not watching it. It'd be nice to see Trigun on TV for once - I've got all 24 eps on my PC, but it's nice to sit on the couch - but if it's dubbed, I'm not watching... The voices are pathetic in dubbed Trigun. They don't express the right emotions based on the situation and the translations are all changed. I hope they don't edit thing, either... that'd be annoying.
Well, I don't think there is any chance Cartoon Network will use the subtitled version... but is it my imagination or is dubbing getting better overall (perhaps not in Trigun, but overall). I remember when Akira first came out dubbed in English and half the voices sounded like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles... then the DVD came out recently with much better voice acting.
I used to prefer subtitles because the dubbed versions always sounded like cheezy crap, but I think now it's getting a bit better. Part of me still prefers subtitles, though, since you can hear what the original actors were trying to emote.
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Where does this idea that anime == no social life come from? I mean, there are a lot more girls into anime than, say, computers, percentage-wise. I met my girlfriend because she recognised me from an anime convention my friend took me to. I like anime and all, but she's really into it.
Sure, I know a few really socially-inept anime fans, and saw a frightening amount of fat guys dressed as sailor moon at the last convention, but that was more than off-set by the cute 20-year-old girls in schoolgirl outfits or skimpy sci-fi uniforms and bright pink hair. Most of the anime fans I've met are pretty cool people overall, and don't typify the stereotype at all.
Also, as an aside, I think posting on slashdot automatically takes away a person's right to deride others about not having a social life. Maybe I should just leave you to your attempts to feel better about yourself.
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Y'know, that seems to be the way everyone looks at Trigun. They either think the first 12 episodes are filler and the last 12 are badass, or they think the first 12 are hilarious (a la The Slayers, etc.) and the last 12 are too heavy and unbelievable. I swear, I'm the only person who enjoys the whole damned series.
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Wow, Love Hina on CN. What a concept. Do you realize how many swimsuits Funimation would have to draw?
As for putting Excel Saga on CN... how many people would get the joke? All the DBZ fans would... well, it's like how some rock stars don't understand why This Is Spinal Tap is so funny.
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Trigun, of all things? Trigun!
Even if they do this on Adult Swim only, it's going to get butchered. Admittedly, Love Hina would get it even worse, but still, Trigun's going to go through the freaking shredder.
Most anime just plain shouldn't be shown on TV at this point in time. Not until the culture is ready to take it uncut, or at least with minimal editing (I don't count dubbing as "editing" so much as necessity, given that relatively few people would be willing to watch this stuff subbed on TV). And that, I fear, isn't going to be for a long time.
Parent post is troll, obviously. (Although I still like Rotten ;) )
Yes, it's true, I'm a Hikaru no Go Junkie.
I've heard rumors that it's going to be released here in the States soon. I just hope it has the same effect here as in Japan on the popularity of go.
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What would be left of Excel Saga after the censors got to it? Apparently the last episode is so bad we're not even going to watch it at the more formal meeting of the Anime Club I go to. They would have to take out a whole character for sure. And several of the subplots throughout the series wouldn't be "fit" for the US audience.
Also, in my opinion its not really a very good series. Its feels kind of recycled after a while. We're on episode 22 or 23 and the last good episode we watched was the one with the attacking pandas, and that episode was in the single digits. Granted, there are still some funny moments here and there.
Now, Witch Hunter Robin, thats a good series. Perhaps CmdrTaco wouldn't like it since he apparently isn't a big fan of plot (I assume when he said "kind of crazy" he was refering to actual plot development). It starts out being a police-but-with-witch's anime (with some pretty neat episodic plots) but at about episode 15 or so it starts getting into the over-arching plot thats pretty nifty.
My favorite anime is Jungle wa Itsumo Hale Nochi Guu. You can BitTorrent it at AnimeSuki.com. Its really funny in a unique way. Don't be quick to judge it as as yet another "WTF Anime", I definitedly started liking it the more I saw of it (though I had more or less decided to watch the whole thing after seeing the intro). Theres good character development, none of the characters are as superficial as they first might seem. Depending on its time slot, they might not have to censor too much, but who knows.
A good post, except for the end. Just suggested to avoid insults. You end up looking better than the other person anyways.
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Actually I wasn't all here mentally when I posted that comment, so I apologize if I offended anyone. However, please take a look again at the article, and think from the point of view of someone who couldn't give a rat's ass about anime. It just sounds really silly. Here's a different translation that's not as offensive: "Great, a cartoon is coming, and let me expound upon my knowledge of some even more obscure related cartoons so that I sound cool to other people into this fad". It's not really news for nerds, it's news for some nerds who like anime, with some personal ego-push attached to the end.
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Excel Saga has that japanese humor, although most of the physical gags are universal enough, each culture has its own idea of what is funny - my japanese grandmother probably would not even break a smile if she watched all of monty python (with subtitles even)
As long as it doesn't interfere with Futurama or Home Movies; I don't care.
Yeah, dubs are something everybody complains about anime, but still here in Mexico we have very good dubs for lots of animes, it may not be perfect but it sounds great, at least no like english dubs.
Inuyasha, DBZ, DBGT, Gundam Wing, all these where very well dubed in spanish (MX).
CN has the Toonami at 4pm i think, they broadcast Gundam Wing, Inuyasha and DBZ at peek hours. Still i think is different here, there is less worry of children in the sense that they know is just toons, though nudity is a problem, they don't broadcast it here.
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It's obvious that the majority of Anime Geeks out there can't wait to see Trigun. I am not embarassed to say that I haven't seen Trigun. Anime is an expensive habit as most know. Looking at all my Cowboy Bebop and 11 Rurouni Kenshin DVDs reminds me of this all the time.
.hack//Sign - I hope to see Cartoon Network adopt some older anime titles.
Honestly, while bringing Trigun to Cartoon Network is great. I really think Cartoon Network needs a facelift. Their scheduling is horrid. I don't mind watching episodes of what I have seen before but not in a repetitive manner.
I think their non-Japanese selection needs to change up. I would love to see them revamp and do a morning program line up paying tribute to USA's Cartoon Express. Does anyone remember that? That was a catchy little morning wake-up call for kids.
Cartoon Network should also have cohesive monthly themes or re-work montages like Cartoon Theatre. Perhaps, have like a vintage block or Anime OAV Theatre.
These are just random things that have passed through my mind.
Personally, besides them beginning to show some great anime like Trigun, Rurouni Kenshin, and
I think there is nothing wrong airing vintage anime in regular brodcast or Adult Swim. You're a baka (just kidding, of course), if you think otherwise! There are plenty of people out there that haven't seen My Neighbor Totoro, Magic Rayearth Knights, Cultural Cat Nuku Nuku,Dirty Pair, Star Blazers, Robotech, Bubblegum Crisis, Blue Seed, Urusei Yatsura, Revolutionary Girl Utena, El Hazard,Escaflowne, RG Veda, Fushigi Yuugi, etc.
Decent new material for Cartoon Network to grab would be:
- Chobits
- Rizelmine
- Aoi Yori Aoshi
- Rahxephon
- Jin Roh
- Spriggan
- Fruits Basket
- Hellsing
- Full Metal Panic!
- GTO
- Strawberry Eggs
- His and Her Circumstances
I agree with the others have previously said:
- Excel Saga is not a good idea for Cartoon Network. While a great Anime (Spoof), unless your a die hard Anime fan and have an understanding about Japanese cultural behavior, it will be a anime hard to understand and enjoy thoroughly. End Result: Limited Fanbase.
- Megumi Hayashibara is Queen of Japanese Voice Acting. One of the best around and hard to top. Yes, her stint as Faye Valentine was not great. Nobody's perfect, ne?
Personally, I can't wait to see what ADV's Anime Channel will have to bring to the table. Unfortunately, it's only testing in the Philly area for now.
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