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The Two Towers DVD Release Dates

FortKnox writes "Mark these dates on your Calendar: 8/26/03 & 11/18/03. These are the (US) DVD release dates for The Two Towers. Like Fellowship, the first date is the release of the DVD, and the November date is the release of the special edition (with rumored extra 48 minutes of footage). Another one ring.net page has more details on the actual footage."

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  1. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2, Funny

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  2. You know by Raul654 · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    It's one thing to have a lot of hype on slashdot about lord of the rings. It's another thing entirely to give it its own catagory. That's just sick.

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    1. Re:You know by Ark42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So does The Matrix and Starwards... what I want to know is why Futurama doesn't have its own catagory :)

    2. Re:You know by mandolin · · Score: 1
      Perhaps, but you do realize how many people here wanted just such a category, right? And who made their opinions known every.damn.single.time a LOTR story was posted, right?

      (usually it was along the lines of "Star Wars has its own category so why can't LOTR")

    3. Re:You know by Dirtside · · Score: 2, Funny
      It's one thing to have a lot of hype on slashdot about lord of the rings. It's another thing entirely to give it its own catagory. That's just sick.
      But how could they not? It is, after all, our precioussss.... yesss.... we loves it...

      *shakes head* Whoa, sorry, got carried away there a second.

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    4. Re:You know by charon_on_acheron · · Score: 5, Funny

      They're still trying to find an icon of Bender's shiny metal ass.

    5. Re:You know by Rob+Simpson · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ah, but the beauty of it having its own category is that you can exclude it using your Preferences/Homepage menu, instead of whining about LOTR topics. So, uh, why didn't you go do that?

    6. Re:You know by Pirogoeth · · Score: 2, Funny

      *shakes head* Whoa, sorry, got carried away there a second.

      No, that belongs under The Matrix category...

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  3. gaah! by dtfinch · · Score: 1

    I can't wait that long.

    1. Re:gaah! by bpatterson · · Score: 1

      Re: I can't wait that long.

      I DIDN'T wait that long. =)

      (the sizzling sounds of a presently burning DVD) j/k

  4. Re:Forget that! by toddestan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You mean you are going to buy the first edition when it comes out? I plan on renting that. I'll buy the special edition.

    I'm kind of tired of the re-release game they play with DVDs - though it is nice with Lord of the Rings that they tell you in advance that there is a special edition coming out. But I do expect after the third movie for a super-duper special edition box set we'll all have to have.

  5. Waiting for the complete set? by ic3p1ck · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm personally waiting for the complete box set. I hope it will include all the extended versions of the three movies with all the extras, i.e greater than the sum of these intermediate special edition releases.

    1. Re:Waiting for the complete set? by MtViewGuy · · Score: 1

      Don't get your hopes up, though.

      I think when the Complete Set comes out (if that is possible) maybe some time in 2005 it'll just be a repackaged Extended Edition sets with only a very tiny amount of tweaking to the first two movies. I don't think Peter Jackson wants to spend even more time to do all-new edits of all three movies just to satisfy the completist crowd. =(

    2. Re:Waiting for the complete set? by pod · · Score: 1

      Well, that's fine. The idea is to get all the movies in one nice box so you can keep them together as one unit. I'll be buying the cheap regular editions, and when then inevitable extended edition 3 movie box set comes out, I'll spring for that and replace the 3 boxes I'll have so far.

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  6. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 3, Funny

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  7. Save your money. by Asterax · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I really don't see much point in buying the LotR DVD's seperately. You just know that New Line will compile together all three movie's in one big massive package with an infinite amount of DVD extra's.

    1. Re:Save your money. by evilviper · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, some of us buy DVDs for the movie, and don't care very much about the rest. Deleted scenes are always good, but if you want interviews with air-headed actors, just watch the late shows.

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    2. Re:Save your money. by coupland · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Your comment makes no sense. If a single compilation is what you want then you are guaranteed not to get it. The media industry has proven time and again that it makes no sense to release something their customers want when it's easier and more profitable to release many iterations of something you ALMOST want. Hopefully you'll buy them all and make them rich. Star Wars for example, will we ever see a digital DVD compilation? No. Not while you keep buying things piecemeal...

    3. Re:Save your money. by Xytras · · Score: 5, Funny

      Star Wars for example, will we ever see a digital DVD compilation? You think you'll see a Analog DVD Compilation?

    4. Re:Save your money. by spongman · · Score: 1

      I'd say that the FOTR extended edition DVD is one of the best featured DVDs available. Besides the deleted scenes and the four commentary tracks there's the excellent 4-hour making of documentary that I'd say is worth the $30 on its own. And then there's hoards of artwork and an interactive editing thing that's pretty cool.

    5. Re:Save your money. by apdt · · Score: 1

      Most of the reason I bought the extended edition of FOTR was for the extendedness of the film. The Aditional stuff is nice, but the 30mins of so of extra footage makes the film soo much better. The Cinema release seems rushed in comparison.

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    6. Re:Save your money. by Phroggy · · Score: 1

      I really don't see much point in buying the LotR DVD's seperately. You just know that New Line will compile together all three movie's in one big massive package with an infinite amount of DVD extra's.

      This is my intention as well. I'd rather shell out $150+ for the 12-disc super extra collector's edition box set, than buy each movie separately. I intend to wait until this is available. In the mean time, I'll borrow them from the library (I'm #5 of 39 holds for the 4-DVD version of FOTR, having already seen the 2-DVD version).

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    7. Re:Save your money. by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 1

      Star Wars for example, will we ever see a digital DVD compilation? No.

      Yes we will. It's coming out after episode 3 is made.

    8. Re:Save your money. by xSauronx · · Score: 1

      only 18 discs? im a fanboi here people

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    9. Re:Save your money. by Evil+Grinn · · Score: 1

      only 18 discs? im a fanboi here people

      RTFA. That's only "Fellowship". All three movies would be 54 discs.

    10. Re:Save your money. by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      I agree. Almost every rental nowadays is two discs - I just watch the movie and return it.

      I have the extended edition of the FOTR, and I watched some of the extra stuff out of curiosity, but I don't really care about the comments - I bought it for the movie. In fact, I've never watched it with the commentary turned on, and have no desire to waste hours of my time doing so.

      The extended version is worth for the film extensions, and I still wish it was longer, but I think I'll be happy when all is said and done, and the complete "extended" three films is well over 10 hours - almost enough to do the book justice.

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    11. Re:Save your money. by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      I got the extended version at discount (I work at another AOLTW company), for $19.95. But even without a discount, I've seen it for $25.

      That's $75 for all the extended versions (extrapolating). I am a real LOTR fan, but I'm not a movie fanboy - I don't care about the commentary and extra junk, I just want the extended versions. I'll be happy to buy each extended version as they come out.

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    12. Re:Save your money. by Lt+Razak · · Score: 1
      I haven't done it either yet. Whenever I set aside 3 hours... I want to watch the movie! But I might give it a shot.

      Reason being is the BEST EVER director's comment on DVD is Braveheart. It's awesome. If you ever get a chance, check it out.

    13. Re:Save your money. by disappear · · Score: 1

      Oh, come on. Every time Liv Tyler opens her mouth, I want to rip my ears off. Not in the film itself, but every time she chooses to explain herself or submits to an interview about it.

    14. Re:Save your money. by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Got the 4 disk set for $26.00 at Sam's club back before TTT came out. Last I saw, they still had it at the same price. Barnes and Noble had the same set for $48.00.

      Shop -S-Mart

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    15. Re:Save your money. by adamjaskie · · Score: 1
      digital DVD

      I'm redundant and repetitive!!!

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    16. Re:Save your money. by SuperSnooper · · Score: 1

      Funny graphic....Reminds me of a Dave Barry article on TTT, here
      Amazingly funny article.....

  8. no complaining this time... by havaloc · · Score: 1

    You now that there is a special edition coming out down the line, and the date of release for that matter! None of this, I bought the DVD and they fleeced me be releasing a special edition.

    1. Re:no complaining this time... by Dynedain · · Score: 1

      Um...last time they were quite specific about the release dates (and contents) of each version as well.

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    2. Re:no complaining this time... by CaseyB · · Score: 1

      They did exactly the same thing last year.

    3. Re:no complaining this time... by smclean · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and I just spend all this bandwidth downloading the DVD screener, and now I'm going to have to download another copy all over again to get rid of that pesky 'Property of New Line Cinema' message!

      Seriously though, I probably will buy the DVD set. I *really* enjoyed the Fellowship DVD set, the deleted scenes were great. I wouldn't ever show anyone the cut up edition after seeing the extended one. I am a Tolkien fanatic and the more I can see put back in that was missing at first the better :)

      I am just not sure about the price, I won the Fellowship DVD set in a work Christmas Party.. Probably costs a lot more than I am willing to fork out.

      Aren't there irc channels that trade entire DVD disk images yet? :)

      Sean

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    4. Re:no complaining this time... by doubleyewdee · · Score: 1

      I paid, iirc, $28 usd or so for the "non-bookend" version of the extended FOTR. That's the one with the four DVDs, not the one with five and the Argonath bookends. Within said package I got a voucher good for up to $10 to see TTT. I used that voucher for a value of $8 or so. So I guess I paid $20 all-told for my copy. I think that's an incredibly reasonable price. I imagine the next one will be the same.

      Of course.. if you want the "Haradrim vs. Waning Numenoreans" miniature chess set (or whatever it's going to be) with your copy of TTT/extended then you're going to be paying more, but if you just want the flicks I doubt it'll cost much more than a normal DVD.

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  9. Likewise with FOTR extended DVD by PovRayMan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm hoping I get a $10 coupon to the Return of the King movie.

    I'm a poor college student and I was so happy that I could spend $30 on a 4 Disc DVD, and get a FREE (afternoon shows here are $5.50) showing of the newest LOTR movie. It was very nice walking in to the theature after classes, handing them my coupon, and sneaking a bottle over to the water fountain because I was too broke to even afford a drink.

    Well I got my fingers crossed.

    1. Re:Likewise with FOTR extended DVD by evilviper · · Score: 1
      handing them my coupon, and sneaking a bottle over to the water fountain because I was too broke to even afford a drink.

      Wow... That takes me back a few years...
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    2. Re:Likewise with FOTR extended DVD by buffy · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I'm a poor college student and I was so happy that I could spend $30 on a 4 Disc DVD, and get a FREE (afternoon shows here are $5.50) showing of the newest LOTR movie. It was very nice walking in to the theature after classes, handing them my coupon, and sneaking a bottle over to the water fountain because I was too broke to even afford a drink.

      Wait a sec. You were broke, but still had the $30 to spend on a 4 Disc DVD? That's sick.

      Broke is broke. Having $30 to by a movie that you have the luxury to have a DVD player to play in is NOT broke.

      So sayeth the fat white computer dude with a good job, and who worries about buying that new Wolverine XBox game 'cause he hears it kind of sucks. -buf

    3. Re:Likewise with FOTR extended DVD by cyrax777 · · Score: 2, Funny

      maybe he was broke after buying the dvd?

    4. Re:Likewise with FOTR extended DVD by PovRayMan · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I sacrificed many meals and ate leftovers from friends and neighbors to save up enough for the dvd. There was a strong sense of value for only $30. I got a movie, tons of extras, and a free pass to the theater.

      Plus the whole eating less made me kill off a couple pounds. I should try it again. the Lord of the Diet... Hmm...

    5. Re:Likewise with FOTR extended DVD by sowellfan · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you were really dedicated, you would've sold your plasma, too, and seen the movie twice or more ;)

      You could lose even more weight that way, too.

    6. Re:Likewise with FOTR extended DVD by KikassAssassin · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hey, even when you're broke, you've got to have priorities. :-)

    7. Re:Likewise with FOTR extended DVD by TopShelf · · Score: 1
      Reminds me of a roommate from college who had a full-time job, but got laid off during a seasonal slowdown. He actually took his unemployment check and went to a record show, where he got some obscure Duran Duran album for $60...

      Your tax dollars at work!

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    8. Re:Likewise with FOTR extended DVD by Zakabog · · Score: 1

      You're like my sister's boyfriend, who told a homeless person "Hey I'm sorry I'd give you some change but I'm poor" the guy yelled at him "You're poor! I live on the fucking street with one pair of clothes with no money to eat and YOU'RE POOR!" Kind of makes you look at the word "poor" in a whole new light.

    9. Re:Likewise with FOTR extended DVD by protein+folder · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, after eating no food for a while, donating plasma and blood and shuffling into the theater ("Frodo movie good!" slapping down a twenty at the ticket window and walking away) he can have a completely immersive experience at the movies.

      "What's that Aragorn?! That man with a cell phone is an agent of Mor(rr)dor(rr)?"

      "Yes, most noble and brave hobbit, PovRayMan! Girt thyself with this knife of Westernesse! Wrest the One RingTone from he who hath obviously not watched the dancing Coke(TM) bottle commanding that all cell phones should be shut off!"

      Fortunately, in his weakened condition he should be easy to fend off, and the ushers can take him in the back room and feed him some Junior Mints. ("That will be $5.50, please!")

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    10. Re:Likewise with FOTR extended DVD by no+reason+to+be+here · · Score: 1

      Quote: "...with no money to eat..."

      Which is where I respond with, "You eat money!?!? No wonder your fucking poor!"

    11. Re:Likewise with FOTR extended DVD by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

      The more I encounter you poor college student the more I feel genuinely sorry for you guys.

      It must be damned tough -(I'm in Australia, it's not like that here) - but being a high net user I see a large frequency of us comments and often people refer to being poor college students

      some with barely enough money for food and shit... fucked up

  10. Release date mix-up by dzym · · Score: 4, Informative
    The actual release date for the DVD with the theatrical version of the movie is august 26th, 8/26, not June 28th, 6/28.

    Hope that helps.

    1. Re:Release date mix-up by MrWa · · Score: 2, Funny
      The actual release date for the DVD with the theatrical version of the movie is august 26th, 8/26, not June 28th, 6/28.
      Hope that helps.

      Helps what? Rip out my heart, stomp on it, and pour salt all over it? The release quickly went from 2 months away to 4 in the time it took me to click "read more"!!

      Now I might as well wait for the Extended-Super-Delux edition...

    2. Re:Release date mix-up by FortKnox · · Score: 1

      Yeah, this was my bad. I fixed it in the JE, but it didn't get accepted until late, so I didn't get a chance to email and have them change the date.

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    3. Re:Release date mix-up by pi+radians · · Score: 1

      Argh! My birthday is on the 22nd of August. That means I'll have to pay for this with my own money!

      Bullocks!

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  11. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Funny

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  12. Re:Why? by dtfinch · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's greed. They don't want you to just buy the special edition and be done with it. By delaying the special edition, they may be able to get you to buy the regular edition as well.

  13. I just watched two towers yesterday.. by Ryan+Amos · · Score: 1

    On DivX though. ;) That said, I will be buying the DVD, if for nothing else than the surround sound. Good movie, can't wait for the third.

    1. Re:I just watched two towers yesterday.. by ic3p1ck · · Score: 1

      You know it is possible to have DivX encoded video and the AC3 soundtrack in an AVI? Of course its a little bigger... (not that I have anything like that of course - just stating a fact)

      That being said, I would much prefer to have the full quality version especially for such a great movie.

    2. Re:I just watched two towers yesterday.. by jroysdon · · Score: 1

      As it was a "copy," wouldn't it have to be two DVDs to fit on consumer-burnable 4.7GB DVDs? At least, that's what I've been watching. Anything else, and it's not the true original data off the multi-layer screener DVD.

      Side note: I also had a screener copy of FoTR, and then I bought the original theatrical version of FoTR and the Special Edition (with the bookends, which look great in my library around my JRRT stuff). I plan to buy both of TTT as well, and I only let non-family watch it after it stopped showing in the theatre (if they hadn't seen it already).

      That's where my morals are. I stopped Napster-isk sharing of stuff about two years ago. I'll still swap a high-quality rip of a CD to check it out, but if I like it, I buy it, if I don't like it, I nuke it.

    3. Re:I just watched two towers yesterday.. by jn42 · · Score: 1

      Yep, fantastic. (except for the "For Academy Consideration" banner now and then :)

      I WILL be buying the release, but not until the big one in November.

    4. Re:I just watched two towers yesterday.. by reiggin · · Score: 1

      Speaking of AC3, what are the odds the first release (8/26) will have DTS? Or do I have to wait til November again? DTS is amazing and AC3/Dolby Digital doesn't hold a candle. Of course, I've yet to be able to take advantage of the new Dolby EX or DTS ES 6.1. Anyone have comments or thoughts on these encodings on FotR?

    5. Re:I just watched two towers yesterday.. by Ryan+Amos · · Score: 1

      Yeah, only the full quality version isn't available yet. :) So I'll have this till the DVD comes out, and then I'll just have the DVD (easier than connecting my computer to my TV anyway) so I won't have to worry about anything.

  14. Re:Sure go ahead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Who cares about the MPAA and RIAA?

    This is LoTR!! I'll buy every DVD and soundtrack!

    Hell, I'll sleep with Jack Valenti and Hilary Rosen!

    Actually, ewww!

  15. Gollum's Game... by CaptCanuk · · Score: 1

    I was hoping for a rerendering of Pixar's "Geri's Game" starring Gollum. Now that I'd pay for. Or at least get Pixar to put on Geri's Game on the same DVD. My precious-s-s.....

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  16. One thing I don't understand by Raul654 · · Score: 1

    We have such super high quality versions of LOTR, but just try finding ONE good quality copy of Meet the Feebles...

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    1. Re:One thing I don't understand by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 1

      ONE good quality copy of Meet the Feebles.

      That would require the original to be of good quality in the first place!

      *ducks*

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    2. Re:One thing I don't understand by BJH · · Score: 1

      Yeah, he could do it on his weekends! ;)

    3. Re:One thing I don't understand by belroth · · Score: 1
      We have such super high quality versions of LOTR, but just try finding ONE good quality copy of Meet the Feebles...
      Err, why?
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  17. Why yes... by GarfBond · · Score: 5, Informative
    If by 6/28/2003 you mean 8/26/2003 (bit of an odd typo...), then yes, that is the expected release date for TTT :)

    Here's the Official Site if you don't believe someone's scanner for this info.

    1. Re:Why yes... by BJH · · Score: 1

      No, he meant 2003/8/26.

    2. Re:Why yes... by BJH · · Score: 1

      The best thing about big-endian dates is that you can take two strings - say, "20030424" and "20030826" - and easily determine which date is the earlier and which is the later by comparing them as integers. Simple and logical.

  18. Date is incorrect - IS 8/26 , NOT 6/28 by SirTom · · Score: 1, Redundant

    If you go to the link that is provided, you see the date in the poster is August 26, 2003. It was listed incorrectly as 6/28 for the "regular" edition.

  19. Re:Hmm... by Dylan+Zimmerman · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I, for one, knew months before the release of the normal FotR DVD that there would be an extended edition. Anyone who really pays attention to this stuff knows well in advance.

  20. the onion by DanThe1Man · · Score: 5, Funny

    (with rumored extra 48 minutes of footage)

    That remindes me of an Onion side story title: "DVD contains two hours of previously unseen movie"

    1. Re:the onion by Nathdot · · Score: 1

      The DVD they used was the latest Dana Carvey classic: "Master Of Disguise".

      I've heard it's bad. Never seen it though.

    2. Re:the onion by smclean · · Score: 1

      Yeah its sad to see Dana Carvey sink to such depths. He was nothing short of genious in SNL, clean slate wasn't bad.. .. then.... His standup stuff in the SNL days was superb. Besides that overplayed choppin broccoli bit at least :)

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  21. ) . Dodged the parse error there... by GQuon · · Score: 1

    See the subject. Had to close those parenteses to avoid parse errors in all the slashdotters :-)

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  22. Re:Why? by NeeNee3 · · Score: 3, Funny
    Exactly! They are counting on the kind of fans that love the movie so much they rush out to by the regular edition as soon as it hits the shelves because they can't wait. Then, they know these same fans are going to buy the special edition when it finally releases because of the all the extras.

    Heck, a lady I work with loves LOTR so much that she bought the special edition of Fellowship of the Ring TWICE! She lent the first copy to someone who was taking too long in returning it, and she didn't feel like waiting the extra day or whatever to get it back, so she went and bought it again. Movie companies love these kind of people!

  23. some news on the extended edition by TerraFrost · · Score: 4, Informative
    While we're talking about the Two Towers, the extended edition will have 43 extra minutes (compared to the 32 extra in FotR), and have more than 150 cgi scenes (compared to the 35 extra in FotR).

    Sources:
    http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/8/10503906 13
    http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=14590

    1. Re:some news on the extended edition by cybermox · · Score: 3, Informative

      According to the official site, LordoftheRings.Net, the extended edition will have "35 minutes of new and extended scenes."

      Source:
      http://www.lordoftherings.net/index_400 _hv_presell .html (Click on the "Click Here" link to pop up the SE info.)

    2. Re:some news on the extended edition by krelian · · Score: 1

      This means that there is going to be a lot more from treebeard and golum, because i don't see any other way of using this much cgi in and extended edition.

  24. Lucas by grungebox · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think George Lucas should watch the DVD extras so he can learn a thing or two about making good movies.

    1. Re:Lucas by WhytTiger · · Score: 1

      and while he's at it, maybe he could take some notes on releasing movies with less than 3 years in between releases

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    2. Re:Lucas by seann · · Score: 1

      an old expression we used to use as kids..

      "Burn."

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    3. Re:Lucas by bmantz65 · · Score: 1

      Why would he do that with one movie to go?

    4. Re:Lucas by BollocksToThis · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Umm, did anyone happen to watch the extras that came with the first DVD?

      I did, and what I saw amounted to one big fucking commercial.

      "Hi, I'm some chick who works for bla bla corp, oh look! Collector's editions of the original trilogy in book format! That's pretty interesting, why don't we show some shots of that while I keep talking? Did you know we sell these? Mmmm, these books sure do look nice... I wish I could be saying 'Only $69.95!' right about now... hey, let's have a shot of the director. He seems to be saying something. Oh, he's saying he wanted to be true to Tolkien's original trilogy! Well, let's fade him out and fade back in this shot of the trilogy that we happen to publish! The only thing missing from this 'making of' feature is an 800 number!"

      At least some of the extras on the Star Wars DVDs didn't appear to have anything to do with trying to sell me more crap.

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    5. Re:Lucas by Belgand · · Score: 1

      I believe he means the extensive and informative extras that came with the real (read: extended) version. The first one was to get fanboys to spend extra cash to have it early and give something to Blockbuster and idiots who don't know any better or don't care.

    6. Re:Lucas by Phroggy · · Score: 1

      I don't remember any of that at all.

      I guess I'll continue to avoid any DVD not labeled at least Special Edition.

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    7. Re:Lucas by Wolfrider · · Score: 1

      Mod on this parent is off; that's not Funny, that's INSIGHTFUL...

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    8. Re:Lucas by feldspar6 · · Score: 1

      One of the reviews of TTT made exactly the same point, saying: "George Lucas should see this film and hang his head in shame." Too lazy to google for it right now, but amen.

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    9. Re:Lucas by disappear · · Score: 1
      The first one was to get fanboys to spend extra cash to have it early and give something to Blockbuster and idiots who don't know any better or don't care.

      Or, perhaps, for people who found the discipline of a three-hour theatrical release superior to the wandering three-and-a-half-hour monstrosity of the extended edition.

      I liked all of the scenes that were cut from the extended FoTR, especially the pub scene, but it's in most respects a better movie without those scenes. That's what I'd prefer to see. Not surprisingly, that's the edition I chose to buy.

      Now the fullscreen edition, that's for idiots who don't know any better or don't care.

    10. Re:Lucas by FroMan · · Score: 1

      I dunno. I think EPI and EPII were intentionally bad. You see, when aliens dig up the the artifacts of our civilization, they are going to find this set of movies. The first three are going to suck, but finally they get to the final three and they are better, still cheesey, but better. Then they are going to find the odd and put them in a museum since be studied for years and years. Its really just a trick of immortality for Lucas.

      Atleast that is his plan till darth vader cuts him in half and he becomes more powerful then you could ever imagine...

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    11. Re:Lucas by daVinci1980 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why is it that when Lucas re-edits movies and adds scenes to them, we consider it evil, but when its LoTR its okay?

      And before you think I'm just whining, consider the amount of bandwidth spent discussing this specific evil.

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    12. Re:Lucas by mfrank · · Score: 1

      I can buy LOTR DVDs with the original theatrical version. I have a bad feeling that I'm *never* going to be able to do that with the original 3 star wars movies.

      I saw Star Wars in 9th grade. I want the version where Han shoots Greedo first.

      Lucas can put Jar Jar into the original Star Wars Special Edition. I don't care. As long as I can get the version I saw in 9th grade.

    13. Re:Lucas by mfrank · · Score: 1

      Even better idea: Have him hire Peter Jackson to do the last Star Wars movie.

    14. Re:Lucas by mfrank · · Score: 1

      Actually, he could get him to do the Star Wars 3, then have him go ahead and film Star Wars 7, 8, and 9 while he's at it :)

  25. Re:Sure go ahead by Loki_1929 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm sorry, could you repeat that? I was busy reading my Visa info over the phone to Jack Valenti to reserve the DVD and the special edition DVD set.

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  26. or... by j0se_p0inter0 · · Score: 1

    you could just download it, it's already floating around out there...

  27. Whoa by DrMrLordX · · Score: 1

    You mean you own a calendar? Dude.

    1. Re:Whoa by HP-UX'er · · Score: 1

      you run linux don't you ?

      # cal

      thats all you need ;)

  28. The pattern continues by Malacca · · Score: 1

    It's the same round of release schedule as FoTR and likely RoTK too. The savvy ones will wait till they release the super-duper release to end all releases boxed set containing all three movies (normal and extended) plus extras. In the meantime, rent (from the video shop) or borrow (from friends who couldn't wait and went out and bought the DVDs as they came out).

    Sure, it's a moneymaking move. But at least you know it's coming. Given the amount of creative effort that went into the movies (went to the LoTR exhibition in Wellington,NZ and marvelled at the stupefying amount of detail and craft that went into the movies) I've no problem with them generating as much revenue as they can.

  29. Re:Why? by fidget42 · · Score: 3, Informative

    The official reason is the extra production time it takes to edit the extended release. I'm not sure what an extra three months would really buy them, but that's the official line.

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  30. The smart move by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Amen to that. The smart move here is to wait until after all three movies have been out on DVD for about a year and then buy the "ultimate, super-duper, this-is-the-one-that-you-really-want" box set that contains all three extended additions and tons of extras.

    If you really need to see them on DVD before then either borrow a friend's copies or rent them out.

    Anything less will only lead to disappointment, in the next life if not this one.

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    1. Re:The smart move by KikassAssassin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, I'm planning on buying both versions of the DVD, because I'm sure none of my friends are going to let me keep borrowing their copy to let me watch it 30 times before the extended DVD comes out. Renting is out of the question, because the cost of renting a movie that many times would be rediculous.

      Sure, if you're only planning on watching it one or two times, renting might be a better plan, but I'm already having withdrawls since the movie left the theaters in my area a month or so ago.

    2. Re:The smart move by FroMan · · Score: 2, Funny

      There's a book you might want to read... I hear the graphics are pretty good and it follows the original storyline. :-P

      Seriously, I can see watching a movie a couple times, even buying a movie if its really good. But watching it 30 times in a 6 month period? No, there are some issues with that. You realize that it 5 times a month, which is more than once a week on average. You need some help.

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  31. Here's a kinda dumb question by Daetrin · · Score: 1
    Is it possible to play the normal versions of the movies on the special edition DVDs?

    It would be convenient to be able to compare the theatrical release with the extended version without having to buy both editions. Of course given that they'd love to sell two copies of the movie to every person it's probably a vain hope.

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  32. Re:Too bad I already download it... by domninus.DDR · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    haha at my school a group of kids took a trip to new york and some guys mom got conned into buying a pirated hk dvd for full price. now she is making copies on her computer and giving them to any kid who asks.

  33. In other news by djupedal · · Score: 4, Funny

    Mark these dates on your Calendar: 4/28/03 & 8/11/03. These are the (China) DVD release dates for The Two Towers. Get in line now...(and wear that mask, dammit).

    1. Re:In other news by sonatinas · · Score: 1

      china expat here, two towers has been out since last year on dvd, they have return of the king on dvd, but its some attilla the hun mini series

    2. Re:In other news by jeffasselin · · Score: 1

      What are you talking about? The DVD release in Asia was in January!

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    3. Re:In other news by djupedal · · Score: 1

      We all know that...this was a joke, not an ACTUAL REPORT..... I've had mine for some time now. I was making fun of the lame schedule the studios keep, while some back alley shops elsewhere in the world get them out asap, and for pennies. Seems to me if the two got together, we'd have a much better system...ya' think?

  34. VIDEO DATES by RoadkillBunny · · Score: 1

    When do the video tapes come out? btw, the movie wasn't as good as the book!

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    1. Re:VIDEO DATES by C_Kode · · Score: 1

      yeah, but the treants really kicked some ass!

      The first half of the movie pretty much sucked. I was in fear that they screwed off the second book (note that I've never read all the books, but currently am reading them) All the action in the second half made the movie. The Dwarf stuff was kind of dumb. (I'm mean come on) but the treant battle was fantasic. (can't remember if they call them treants in LotRs, but I'm talking about the tree people)

      Anyhow, This is one of the few movies that I will actually buy as it comes out. Normally there could be years if ever that I would buy a movie.

      Note to creators, Make the movie for "The Hobbit" to finish off the series.

  35. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 3, Informative

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  36. Gonna start a piracy thread! by sludg-o · · Score: 3, Funny

    Another one ring.net page has more details on the actual footage.

    I bet KaZaA has more than just the details

  37. Herein lies the problem by Galvatron · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I KNEW this was going to happen. With so many people getting burned on special editions, people won't buy the original releases anymore. Now, the studios are practically obligated to make special editions, which further reinforces people's avoidance of the standard edition. I honestly think the DVD market is permanently fucked up by this, I can't see any way that the studios can reverse the assumption that all movies that were at least decent will have special editions, so there's no point in buying it when it's first released. I'm sure it was a tremendous moneymaker when they started, but now Hollywood's shortsighted greed has obligated them to waste money printing a non-special edition that no one wants, and filming special filler, just so that people will believe them when they release the real version.

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    1. Re:Herein lies the problem by demonbug · · Score: 1

      It seems to me that the most likely outcome will be that video rental establishments will increasingly be the ones to purchase the "regular" versions (with the hours of special features on many special edition movies, there simply isn't time to watch it all on a normal rental agreement - so it makes less sense for rental outlets to purchase special editions), while people who actually want to purchase a movie for their personal collection will most likely wait for a "special" edition to come out. Not too much of a problem in my opinion, it just means I have to wait a little longer to buy a movie that I really want. Back in the days of VHS, video rental stores always seemed to be able to get hold of movies before they were available for general purchase. It may just be that this trend will come back, but more because of consumer's choice rather than not having the option of buying the movie.

    2. Re:Herein lies the problem by davew2040 · · Score: 1

      Just because everyone on /. is waiting for a special edition doesn't mean anyone else is.

    3. Re:Herein lies the problem by MtViewGuy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think you have to understand why we're getting two different releases of each LoTR film on DVD.

      The first edition is the version we originally saw in the theaters, the version that is likely to be a big hit in the rental market (Blockbuster, Hollywood Video, etc.). The second edition is the long edition movie on two discs with added scenes, Dolby Digital and DTS soundtracks, multiple track commentaries and two-disc Supplementary material set intended for the serious videophile and serious movie fan. For historical reasons, I think it's actually better to have both editions available.

    4. Re:Herein lies the problem by jridley · · Score: 1

      Of course there's a solution. Don't make standard editions anymore, and release the special edition on the normal release date.
      I don't know who's buying these standard editions. Rental places, I guess. I don't know ANYONE who bought the standard edition of FotR. OK, one guy did, but only because he didn't know the special was coming out, and he was trying to sell it for a month before he finally unloaded it for something like $5.

    5. Re:Herein lies the problem by beowulfcluster · · Score: 2, Insightful

      At least the LOTR people are upfront with it and tell everyone there will be a special one later. They did this with the first one as well, in case someone doesn't know. They were nice enough not to piss people off by first releasing the normal one and then announce the special one two months later when the fans had already bought the first one. I guess when you have a movie that'll make one "billion" dollars either way, you can afford to be nice (but it still isn't the norm in movieland so props to them for that).

    6. Re:Herein lies the problem by r0xah · · Score: 1

      I was VERY late in getting around to buying the movies since my brother had bought them previously so when I finally did buy the DVD's for FotR I bought the standard and extended editions at the same time. I think that if you ask a lot of the fans of the movie and book that really love the story they will still buy both and the 1,2,3,4 Profit scheme whatever will still be turning.

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    7. Re:Herein lies the problem by AC5398 · · Score: 1

      Dude, rent the first release, buy the second release to see how the movie SHOULD have looked, then buy the first release when the rental companies put 'em up for a cheap resale.

    8. Re:Herein lies the problem by hcduvall · · Score: 1

      You know, there are people (and rental establishments) that will only want a theatrical cut. There's something to be said for true collectors to only want theatrical cuts.

      And not only is it unlikely that printing non-special editions that no one wants is actually wasting money, instead ofmaking money, I know quite a few people who wlike to preserve the illusion of a film, and not have any special features.

      And here's the kicker, don't like it, don't buy it. You know better if you want extras, real extras that do happen after movies are made and released and take time to produce, that it'll delay special editions. The filming special filler, thats usually the premade marketing material that they have on hand and already used.

    9. Re:Herein lies the problem by Galvatron · · Score: 1

      My issue isn't with the "regular" special edition, it's that everyone is convinced that there will be a "special" special edition after all the movies have been released, and so are avoiding the "regular" special edition.

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    10. Re:Herein lies the problem by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 1
      Just because everyone on /. is waiting for a special edition doesn't mean anyone else is.

      Maybe not, but everyone I know who bought it, from fellow geeks to guys at work to my younger siblings, bought the extended edition.

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    11. Re:Herein lies the problem by CrayzyJ · · Score: 2, Funny

      Some people *cough*me, have wives that attempted to do a good thing and buy the DVD when it first came out because they did not realize there was an extended edition.

      Therefore, some people *cough*me have both.

      In other news, FoTR standard edition for sale!

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    12. Re:Herein lies the problem by Conspir8or · · Score: 1

      with the hours of special features on many special edition movies, there simply isn't time to watch it all on a normal rental agreement

      What, your company doesn't give you sick days?

    13. Re:Herein lies the problem by Grab · · Score: 1

      Depends. If the first one is anything to go by, anyone interested in good films should be.

      The first film suffered from too much cutting. Jackson himself said that they had to make Frodo the focus of the first film, and cut anything that didn't really affect him. So other characters became flatter - only Aragorn got any depth at all. The special edition restored a whole lot of stuff that was cut which boosted the other characters from "also-rans" into a real ensemble piece.

      The second film IMHO suffered even worse from this, because there *was* no "focus point". So you get stuff like Gimli becoming the comic relief and not much more. Hopefully the special edition will improve on this kind of thing in the same way that the first film did.

      Also, of course, if you're at all interested in visual effects and how they're produced then the special edition which shows how some of the shots were made is essential viewing. This is definitely a side-issue though compared to getting a "better" version of the film.

      Grab.

    14. Re:Herein lies the problem by digby_ttf · · Score: 1

      I agree with your point for most films.
      However, both for FOTR and TT, they have announced the special edition at the same time so people can choose. Lets face it, a lot of people who buy the DVD aren't hardcore LOTR fans and couldn't care less about all the extras, they just want to sit down at home and see what they saw at the cinema.

      Personally I'll be renting when it comes out and holding off my purchase for the Special Edition.

      Just my thoughts

  38. Got a point here... by I-R-Baboon · · Score: 2, Funny

    For all the recent flames on the MPAA and all the other assorted horrors who is really willing to levy the boycott and make a statement that will be heard, and who is ready to just burn the pir8 as soon as it hits the file sharing methods not even known to the appointed greedy enemy? There is more drooling over this than at the mention of Leornard Nimoy's name at a Star Trek convention.

    And to boot a /. moderator mods this parent post DOWN because it rings a bit of truth and echoes hypocrisy in the ears of the modder. Somebody please mod the parent back up!!!

    *Burnin the midnight Karma for a good point*
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  39. For Your Consideration by D+iz+a+n+k+Meister · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I was in the Philippines over the New Year and I came across a very nice Muslim women who sold me an awards screener for The Two Towers on DVD for $2 US. I have seen the movie in the theater(obviously) so I can attest to the screener's validity and quality. Basically a pretty dope find, and the whole movie is on exactly 1 DVD(huge plus IMHO).

    I also bought all 3 Indiana Jones movies and the first 3 Star Wars captured from Laser Disc on DVD. Total cost: $14 US. Arrrr Matey!!!

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    1. Re:For Your Consideration by Txiasaeia · · Score: 1
      OT, I know, but why, specifically, did you mention that the woman was Muslim? Your somewhat racial comment betrays your American heritage, Dread Pirate Roberts. Arr.

      May the FBI be with you.

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    2. Re:For Your Consideration by D+iz+a+n+k+Meister · · Score: 1

      No specific reason. I gues that's how she was referenced by my family members, who live there, that took me to the market. I really have no agenda by mentioning her religious/cultural affiliation, and I really didn't think about it too hard while I was there, that people cared to mention that the store owners were Muslim. When you go from Madison, WI to Cebu it's probably the last thing on your mind :-)

      I'm just happy to already have my copy; I think it's a neat souvenir of the trip as well as being a watchable DVD.

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    3. Re:For Your Consideration by Ryan+Amos · · Score: 1

      Have the exact same screener on DIVX. Take up 3 CDs, so I'd say that's about right for a DVD. Crappy sound though, so I'm still buying it on DVD cos I lubbz my 5.1.

    4. Re:For Your Consideration by bpatterson · · Score: 1

      Damn. What is it with these nice muslim women getting all gangsta like. First you are buying pirated DVD's, next you'll be looking for your other kidney in a back alley shop. It's almost like Amish Gone Bad, or whatever that documentary was called.

    5. Re:For Your Consideration by devaudio · · Score: 1

      The quality on the screener is very good, has dolby 5.1. The only problem is "For Your Consideration" pops up at key points in the movie...makes me feel like i was watching the frree HBO preview

    6. Re:For Your Consideration by cap'n+foolsy · · Score: 1

      yes, the philippines. if you ever find yourself back here again, go to GreenHills - there you'll find a neverending stream of people who want to sell you "X". no, not the drug, but x-rated movies.

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    7. Re:For Your Consideration by BitterOak · · Score: 1
      Yep. This is one of the best pre-release videos I've seen. It is on one single-sided single-layer DVD, so it does use tighter compression than most movies (averaging around 4Mbps), but I noticed no problems whatsoever with the picture quality (surprisingly!) It was real DVD quality!

      It featured anamorphic widescreen as well as Dolby digital sound. The only caveat is the phrase "For your consideration" appears every ten minutes (at 4 min, 14 min, 24 min, etc.) and this stays on the screen for a few seconds. Not a big deal really, and fortunately it doesn't appear when there are subtitles when the characters are speaking Elvish.

      Of course I plan to buy the special edition when it comes out in November, but this should hold me over till then.

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  40. How many discs? by Rai · · Score: 1

    I'm guessing the first box set will have 9 discs - 2 for each film and 3 for extras (1 extras disc for each film.)

  41. Re:irc has had it for a long while... by Yort · · Score: 1
    what are you supposed to when it's not in theatres

    Not in theaters? It still is in my neck of the woods (MSP/St.Paul,MN). Not a lot of 'em, but within a half hour drive. Heck, it hasn't even hit the cheap theaters yet, which is what I've been waiting for to see it again.

    It is kind of annoying that I have to wait an extra five months to get the Special Edition, tho.

  42. Great by rf0 · · Score: 1

    It comes out on whilst I'm on honeymoon :)

    Rus

  43. There's a decent idea why by TheNumberSix · · Score: 1

    It's not just a scam to get money out of you either. The theatrical DVD has just that: the theatrical version. There are no special commentaries or anything fabulous on them.

    The bonus disc only contained material that was previously available on the official web site. The only reason that they have this release is that the video market demands that a film be available within a certain time frame from original release. They just don't have time to finish the special extended versions in time, so they release the "regular" theatrical DVD on time.

    The Special Extended version will have all the nice stuff like super-duper commentary tracks and loads of special features.

    All this holds true only if they follow the same procedure with TTT as they did with FOTR.

    If the TTT Special Extended DVD is similar to the FOTR Special Extended version, it's well worth it.

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  44. Re:Why? by Overly+Critical+Guy · · Score: 2, Informative

    They're still doing the effects shots and putting it together.

    Plus they're kind of busy with another movie due out in December at the moment. Slows them down.

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  45. Re:Date is incorrect - IS 8/26 , NOT 6/28 by DevNull+Ogre · · Score: 1

    And it was such a let down! TWO WHOLE MONTHS LONGER. This is the cruelest joke Slashdot has ever played.

    (No, I'm not kidding.)

  46. Japanese solution by lingqi · · Score: 1

    Seems like to counter this problem, Japanese DVD releases are *never* complete. I'll use Evangelion series as an example - but to get all of the footages (including the short live-action one), you'd have to buy something like 4 different editions - and even at usually 40-50 dollars *per*disc*, there are still people doing it - albeit complaining while doing so.

    I dunno. Given sufficiently dedicated fans, I think they can make this into a big money making venture, but at a heavy cost (wallet-wise) to the real fans. But anyway, at least Hollywood won't have to suffer (ha!).

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    1. Re:Japanese solution by pod · · Score: 1

      Evangelion comes in a box-set. 8 or 9 DVDs. I just watched the whole thing a few weeks ago. I don't know enough about the show to know if this is what you meant, this was the Neon Genesis thing.

      I actually really dislike when series are not released in a box. I know some of the early TV series releases (like, say, Lexx) came out in individual DVDs, a couple episodes per. It's a real PITA to 'collect em all', and I hope that model is dead for good.

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    2. Re:Japanese solution by mitheral · · Score: 1

      The advantage being you CAN collect them over time instead of having to pony up the cash for the whole season in one transaction.

  47. Re:Why? by kdgibson · · Score: 1

    They're just using their power to get you to buy both editions. And of course you know, that men, above all else, desire power...

  48. Overlong and underexciting. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Was I the only person in the world that hates this series? The first movie was alright, but leaving the end hanging like that was horrible. The second movie seemed to be going through the motions, rushing forwards through the story without character development or anything resembling cinematic excitement.

    You know it's a chore to sit through when you want all the characters to die so they'd finally shut the hell up.

    I couldn't care if I never see the last movie in this series. I commend the dedication, but if this is a faithful conversion from the books - they probably weren't that good in the first place (believe me, I've tried to finish them[*]). Peter Jackson needs to return to making movies that aren't chores to sit through. Bad Taste was infinitely better from an entertainment perspective.

    [*] Coming from a Raymond E. Feist fanatic, who's no stranger to tearing through 800 page books - provided those books are actually good.

    1. Re:Overlong and underexciting. by DunbarTheInept · · Score: 1

      I too have read the Riftwar books, but am getting sick of how the later ones don't seem to be going anywhere, and are actually becoming less grandiose in scope. (When your first book is about two entire worlds fighting, and the end of the world being narrowly averted, it's hard to keep up interest afterward in such petty things as keeping a kingdom together.)

      And the Tolkien stories are worthwhile mainly because they started the whole genre. Before that, if you had a book about elves and swords and sorcery, it was assumed it must be a children's book, and was written that way.

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    2. Re:Overlong and underexciting. by uberdood · · Score: 1
      The first movie was alright, but leaving the end hanging like that was horrible.
      Left you hanging, just like the books. How dare Jackson try to be faithful to the books!
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    3. Re:Overlong and underexciting. by Knightfall · · Score: 1

      At first I was going to bite and post something sensible to respond to you.
      Nah, you just suck.

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  49. Hey, no problem. by charon_on_acheron · · Score: 1

    Just postpone your wedding by a week or two. She'll understand.

  50. Re:irc has had it for a long while... by randomdef · · Score: 1

    Idiot one - 'shit store is closed and i'm all hungry and shit' Idiot two - 'stupid store, i gotz money and everything and really want that food' Idiot one - 'lets just steal it instead, i'm really hungry' Idiot two - 'better yet, lets steal it and pretend we have ethical reasons to steal it!'

  51. Mmmmmm Special Edition DVD's by OneArmedMan · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wantsssss... M. Mm. My Preciousssssss

  52. I'll wait for the November release this time ! by bushboy · · Score: 1

    Like a lot of people, I got the normal DVD release of the Fellowship before knowing that there would be an extended special release.

    Of course, I had to buy it and it was an excellent purchase !

    This time I'll know better.

    So the plan is to get the DVD just before the release of "The return of the King" and spend all day watching the extended version of the first two films and top it of with the final on the big screen.

    LOR Goodness !

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    1. Re:I'll wait for the November release this time ! by uberdood · · Score: 1
      Like a lot of people, I got the normal DVD release of the Fellowship before knowing that there would be an extended special release.
      Like a lot of people, I read (long before the normal edition was sold in stores) that there would be a special edition.
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  53. Re:Forget that! by Nataku564 · · Score: 1

    Im looking way further ahead than that ... Heres my plan ... I buy the normal versions now, simply because they are excellent movies ... then, once all 3 movies are out on DVD - they will inevitably come out with the uber-ultra-collectors edition box set, containing all of the special editions and some more extra footage to squeeze those last few dollars out of the devoted fanbase ... I buy that, and give away my 3 normal DVDs to a few friends/relatives, and I enjoy my complete collection with maximum efficency :)

  54. RotK on 8/5/04? by beat.bolli · · Score: 1

    I don't know about you, but here in Switzerland, we are already promised the Return Of The King on August 5, 2004 (in German). I can't say if the cover art is a fake, though.

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  55. Re:watching movies. well, such is life. by smclean · · Score: 1

    my movie is just a life. since I like fiction so much, why not watch a movie?

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  56. I am the dupe they bring these versions out for by MrMickS · · Score: 1
    I pre-ordered the Fellowship of the Ring DVD release (standard edition).

    I was then working away in Switzerland for a few weeks and couldn't resist 'Der Herren Der Ringe' (when I found out it had the English soundtrack). This meant I could watch it a whole 2 weeks earlier than if I waited until I got home.

    I then pre-ordered and bought the special Edition.

    Do I feel bitter? Nah.

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    1. Re:I am the dupe they bring these versions out for by greed · · Score: 1
      Do I feel bitter? Nah.

      Presentssssss. Gives the extra discs away as presentsssss.

      Saved me a bundle, got my Mom a cheap Apex DVD player (needed something without MacroVision so it could run through the VCR to her ancient TV). Then pulled some of the dupes and "not-special editions" I thought she'd like off my shelves. (And a bunch of "ugh, I don't remember that being that dull" films.)

      They were all opened, but hey, just tell the person you give them to that they've been tested!

  57. The Two Towers - Purist Edit by tangent3 · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those who are interested, there is a "Purist Edit" of The Two Towers floating around the Edonkey network. The quality isn't that great, being a rip of a rip squeezing 2 hours and 15 mins into 1 CD.

    The purpose of the edit is to make the movie follow more closely to the original books. It's amazing the work the editor has done by selectively removing scenes and rearranging them - without messing up the sound synchronisation. Now there are no longer any elves in Helm's Deep, Faramir is a good guy again, and the ents aren't idiots anymore.

    Here's the ed2k link:
    ed2k://|file|Lord_of_the_Rings-The_Two_Towe rs-The_ Purist_Edit.avi|729462784|ec0671172619e490d7b0ea6b 5278468c|/

    More information in the sharereactor forums.

    1. Re:The Two Towers - Purist Edit by rizzo · · Score: 2, Informative

      That must be some edit if he can also put Eomer in Helm's Deep the whole time (Eomer was never "banished") and have Erkenbrand come to the rescue at the end. And let us not forget the sweet, sweet Huorns. *drool*

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    2. Re:The Two Towers - Purist Edit by bigmouth_strikes · · Score: 2, Funny

      You, sir, are supporting terrorism!

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    3. Re:The Two Towers - Purist Edit by danila · · Score: 1

      Actually, in the Purist Edit, Eomer is not banished. :) That was a minor change, but a really nice touch. :) Of course, it is impossible to insert the non-existing footage of Erkenbrand, who probably wasn't even casted... Same with the Huorns, only they will finally appear in November. May be there will be an updated Purist Edit, who knows...

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  58. Re:Why? by krelian · · Score: 1
    I'm not sure what an extra three months would really buy them

    It would buy them a few more DVD's of the theatrical edition. There are always going to be people who don't have patience (or emule).

  59. Actually by krelian · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I am realy looking forward to seeing what documentaries they are going to put on this DVD. The first movie had 2 disc's worth of doc's in it and they all were very intresting. The thing is that alot of them were based on general LotR stuff not specifically FoTR and i guess that they would not just repeat the same old doc's.

    I consider the first movie extended edition to be the best DVD release ever made, they really have high standards to repeat on future releases.

  60. Re:Forget that! by apdt · · Score: 1

    You mean you can wait that long to see the special editions......

    Me I'll grab the special edition as soon as it comes out. The special^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hextended edition of the first one was sooooooo much better.

    BTW, anyone know what the UK release dates are?

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  61. DVD isn't out yet?? by gol64738 · · Score: 1

    i've seen the Two Towers DVD out here in Russia for over a month now. obviously, there's no extra footage, but it's nice to watch this film in the comforts of my flat.

  62. IF these are the release dates, by katalyst · · Score: 1

    the WHY is that the divxs of this movie are already available on all your neighbourhood friendly peer2peer networks? rips of pre-release DVDs??? or pirated camera prints? Unfortunately, I have a slo connx, but I hear that these divxs were the real thing... DVD print... something is amiss here.....

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    1. Re:IF these are the release dates, by uberdood · · Score: 1

      There's this little thing called the Oscars. And see, the people that want to get awards, well, they like release these special DVDs. They send these DVDs to the people who actually pick the Oscar winners. And always looking for a quick buck, someone ran DVD2DIVX on their copy and sorta released it to the Internet.

      While watching thse rips, one will see the phrase "for your consideration" pop up occasionally in a mildly obtrusive manner. Or so I've seen^H^H^H^Hheard.

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  63. woot! by Inf0phreak · · Score: 1

    Let's just hope that they don't screw up the European release this time. Somehow, I have my doubts :(

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  64. Just like last time, I waited and bought neither by cardoso · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When something STARTS obsolete it really pisses me off. If the friggin edition is so special, release it, not a gap-filling money-harvesting disc that WILL be useless in a few months. I like money, I love it, but I know one can make much more money NOT calling people "stupid".

    After a few months, the hype was gone, and with it the desire of buying LOTR. Should they release the special edition at once OR later, but NOT releasing the idea of an special edition side-by-side the normal one, I'd be with it right on my desk...

    Just like Spiderman. Some marketing genious decided to save money, and DON'T make a two-sided DVD, with widescreen and TV formats. Released only the square one, here in Brazil. End of story? I passed the DVD and... KAZAA!!!!

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  65. To the rest of the world... by Trogre · · Score: 1

    ... that's 28/6/2003 and 18/11/2003, or 2003-06-28 and 2003-11-18

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  66. Collectors Edition? by ectoraige · · Score: 1

    What I want to know, is when the 'Collectors Edition' will be released, and what'll come with it.
    The Fellowship came with two daff Arrgonath bookends, I'm wondering if the Two Towers will have Orthanc and Isengard bookends...

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  67. Maybe the extra 48 minutes by jgerman · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... contains the scenes where Gimli kicks everyone's ass for making him comic relief.

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  68. Already Watched it by sujan · · Score: 1

    Bittorrent rocks

    http://www.torrents.co.uk
    http://torrentse.cx

  69. LoTR is much-loved by the "techie" crowd by MtViewGuy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually, I think LoTR is a very well-loved book among the regulars on Slashdot because they all admire Peter Jackson's audacity and vision to actually film three movies out of a book (a long-time favorite among Slashdot readers) that everyone else had said could not be turned into theatrical features.

    It also helps that Jackson created almost from scratch a visual-effects team that has done amazing CGI work that rivals anything done by the folks at Lucasfilm.

    It's the reasons I mentioned above that LoTR deserves its own category in Slashdot. =)

    1. Re:LoTR is much-loved by the "techie" crowd by yack0 · · Score: 1

      > It also helps that Jackson created almost from
      > scratch a visual-effects team that has done
      > amazing CGI work that rivals anything done by the
      > folks at Lucasfilm.

      Rival? Sorry, surpass is the word you're looking for. Granted, TTT was made with newer technology than Episode 2 (or is that 5?) but the effects in TTT surpass those in Ep. 2.

      I also expect to see even better effects in RotK, to which I'd expect to see significant improvements from Lucas when comparing Ep. 2 and Ep. 3!

      I was quite impressed with WETA's work on these movies and it's clear that Industrial Lightweight Plastic ^W^W^W Industrial Light and Magic have serious competition now.

      IMHO,

      j

      p.s. for more on Industrial Lightweight Plastic, try http://www.talker.com/john/mov/pawarsse.mov or
      http://www.talker.com/john/mov/dotfse.mov

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    2. Re:LoTR is much-loved by the "techie" crowd by CrayzyJ · · Score: 1

      "I think LoTR is a very well-loved book among the regulars on Slashdot because they all admire Peter Jackson's audacity and vision ..."

      um...what about the books themselves? I think LoTR is well loved all around (not just /.ers) because the books are awesome. Pete Jackson has nothing to do with it. He altered the format, but the main attraction is the story (and everything that goes with them), and no the visual effects.

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  70. DVD ripp... by muffen · · Score: 1

    I've seen the DVD ripp of this movie floating around. I watched it on a friends xbox, and the picture was really good.
    I am wondering, if there's several months to go before the DVD release, how can there be a DVD ripp out on the net??

    I think I'll buy this movie when it comes out on DVD, but I'll prolly wait for the special edition. I have both versions of the first one, and it kinda feels like a waste...

    1. Re:DVD ripp... by m3djack · · Score: 1

      'Screeners' of films are usually provided to those who vote on, for instance, the Academy, to decide the awards movies get. They send these people the screener copies on DVD now. They're pretty much just the film transferred to DVD...

  71. Re:Sure go ahead by rizzo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hell, I'll sleep with Jack Valenti and Hilary Rosen!

    Talk about pigs in a blanket!

    *rimshot*

    Thanks I'll be here all week. Try the veal.

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  72. Watch what you ask for... by Ryatt · · Score: 1

    You just might see Jar-Jar skating down a set of stairs while shooting up droids with a blaster. *groan*

  73. Not deleted scenes by barnaclebarnes · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just a note that the extra footage in LOTR is not deleted scenes. They were never meant for the theater release but are made specifically for the DVD release. Peter Jackson has been very upfront about the fact that he thinks DVD's can add an extra dimension to the film and has incorporated this concept from the beginning. /b

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    1. Re:Not deleted scenes by Lt+Razak · · Score: 1

      I really liked the extra footage about making the Shire. It's amazing the amount of pre-work put into the set. 1 year!!!! To grow hobbit trees!! :)

  74. Great value by Stickster · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I agree completely. But then, New Line has made a habit of releasing some of the best DVD's available. Cf. David Fincher's Se7en, which also featured four very informative commentary tracks by a number of cast and crew personnel. Admittedly it was not of the scope of LotR, but a fascinating movie nonetheless. That and Fox's special edition of Fincher's Fight Club were pretty much my favorite DVD's as far as fulfilling the promise of "film school in a box." However, New Line's edition of P.T. Anderson's Boogie Nights is another great one. Basically, no one has done DVD as consistently well as New Line -- with the possible exception of Criterion.

    1. Re:Great value by pod · · Score: 1

      I'm very impressed with New Lines special edition DVDs so far. Criterion doesn't really do a lot of extras, some of their DVDs don't even have the trailers, but some come with interviews and such, so it's really a crapshoot. Criterion isn't known for the 'fully loaded' aspect of their releases, they mostly concern themselves with quality movies and transfers. Infinifilm has good extras on their DVDs. and Superbit does the hi-def hi-bitrate schtick.

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  75. Is the extended version worth it? by csguy314 · · Score: 1

    I haven't seen the extended FOTR but I have the 'regular' version on DVD. Is the extended version really cool? Is it worth getting the extended FOTR and should I wait for the extended TTT?

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    1. Re:Is the extended version worth it? by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 1
      I haven't seen the extended FOTR but I have the 'regular' version on DVD. Is the extended version really cool? Is it worth getting the extended FOTR and should I wait for the extended TTT?

      In my opinion the extended Fellowship is a completely different and much better movie. It has much more character development, and, although all the action is still there, because it's more spaced out the whole movie feels less frentic, more character driven and less action driven.

      Also, the commentaries (particularly the director's and the designer's commentaries) and the background footage are excellent and really add to your understanding of the movie. Definitely worth while.

      I may get the theatrical release of the Two Towers, but I shall get the extended cut.

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  76. Re:Why? by derch · · Score: 1

    Greed?

    No, if they were greedy they'd pull the George Lucas shit. Release only full screen versions till all three are done, then release a marked-up, limited edition, widescreen boxed set. Then release the extended scenes in a new theatrical version. Then release a boxed set with the additional footage.

    So all the fans own three copies of the movies.

    No, if they were greedy they wouldn't tell you that an extended version is coming out a *months* later. (I'll resist the urge to rail against people who can't wait a few months and the general lack of patience in American's consumer culture.)

    It takes time to put everything else together. It wouldn't be surprising to find out that the production crew has been concentrating on the regular DVD and getting it out earlier. It probably sells better (cheaper, shorter, appeals to a greater audience). Oh, yah, so that would be greed, too... but not in the bad way that would cause all of us to own three copies of the movies.

  77. Atari by Wells2k · · Score: 1

    Anyone notice that the first release date is on the anniversary of Atari's inception? Yerp, Atari was founded on June 28th, 1972.

  78. LOTRA by The_Mighty_Squid · · Score: 1

    I bought the Theatrical Edition of FOTR
    I bought the Special Gift Pack Extended Edition of FOTR
    I will buy the Theatrical Edition of TTT
    I will buy the Special Gift Pack Extended Edition of TTT
    I will buy the Theatrical Edition of ROTK
    I will buy the Special Gift Pack Extended Edition of ROTK
    I will buy the Complete Theatrical Special Edition
    I will buy the Special Gift Pack Extended Complete Edition

    I will sign all future paychecks to New Line and Peter Jackson

    My name is The Mighty Squid . . .

    ..... and I am addicted to LOTR.

    Pity me.

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  79. Air Headed Actors? by tid242 · · Score: 4, Informative
    but if you want interviews with air-headed actors, just watch the late shows.

    Not all actors are airheads, i saw THIS interview on the Charlie Rose show (PBS) on December 3rd with Viggo wearing a shirt stating "No Blood For Oil"

    Charlie Rose: You're obviously making a political statement with your T-shirt.

    Viggo Mortensen: I wouldn't normally, but it's sort of a reaction to... I've heard a lot of people say to me and I've read in a lot of places about the first movie, and increasingly about the second one... I've seen where people try to relate it to current situation--specifically the United States and their role in the world right now. And I -- if you're going to compare them, then you should get it right--I don't like hearing... I mean I play the character who's defending Helms Deep and I don't think that The Two Towers or Tolkien's writing or Peter's work or our work has anything to do with the United States' foreign ventures at this time. And it upsets me to hear that in a way. And it upsets me even more that questioning what's going on right now, what the United States is doing, is considered treasonous really: "How dare you say that? How un-American of you." And really, this country is founded on the principle that if the government isn't serving the people you at least have the right to say, "Wait a minute. What's going on?" And there're no questions really being asked, at large, about what we're doing. Whereas in The Two Towers you have different races, nations, cultures coming together and examining their conscience and unifying against a very real and terrifying enemy. What the United States has been doing for the past year is bombing innocent civilians without having come anywhere close to catching Osama bin Laden or any presumed enemy, and, as a distraction, we're now--apparently it's a given--we're hell bent on increasing the bombing that's been going on for the past eleven years in Iraq. And I don't think that the civilians on the ground in those countries look at us in the way that maybe Europeans did at the end of World War II, waving flags in the streets, I think that they see the US government as Saruman.

    Elijah Wood: As a threat.

    VM: Yeah, as a threat. And they're terrified--and have been for a long time--and we are not the good guys, unfortunately, in this case, and ...

    CR: Even though right after 9/11 there was an extraordinary amount of public support for the United States to do something.

    VM: I'm supportive of the United States. I'm an American. And I have nothing against patriotism. But if one is going to compare then the comparison is quite the opposite of what is being made.

    CR: Let me just make sure of the comparison. Because I asked you about the T-shirt at the beginning and you said you made it yourself.

    VM: Yeah.

    CR: The idea... you object to the comparison of this film with respect to American involvement with Iraq or--

    VM: United States government

    CR: --with the Afghanistan war or the war against terrorism--in comparison with the film because of your opposition to American policy.

    VM: And the idea is--in that comparison--is that the United States is like the good guys in our movie against the bad guys in our movie and I think the opposite is true unfortunately.

    CR: We're the bad guys because we responded to--

    VM: You know, the people who are terrified at Helms Deep, who are outnumbered in this incredible violence and desire to control--to destroy--the people of Rohan and the rest of the free peoples of Middle-earth, and to control their wills, to control their infrastructure--or destroy it--that's what we're doing in these countries. That's really what we're doing unfortunately. I'm not saying to anyone, to you, or to you, or to you: "This is what you should believe." I'm just saying, why not ask the question: "Why are we doing this?"

    EW: Sure.

    VM: And I

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    1. Re:Air Headed Actors? by revery · · Score: 1

      What was this supposed to convince me of?

      Whereas in The Two Towers you have different races, nations, cultures coming together and examining their conscience and unifying against a very real and terrifying enemy. What the United States has been doing for the past year is bombing innocent civilians without having come anywhere close to catching Osama bin Laden or any presumed enemy, and, as a distraction, we're now--apparently it's a given--we're hell bent on increasing the bombing that's been going on for the past eleven years in Iraq. And I don't think that the civilians on the ground in those countries look at us in the way that maybe Europeans did at the end of World War II, waving flags in the streets, I think that they see the US government as Saruman.

      That's a pretty severe accusation. All we did in Afghanistan was bomb civilians. We came nowhere close to catching Osama or ANY presumed enemy? Where does Viggo Mortensen get his intelligence from? He makes several comments that it should be OK to question things. I don't actual questioning going on as much as I see him making statements and then asking pre-conclusive questions.

      I don't know how close we came to catching Osama, I don't know how many civilians we killed, but there's no way Viggo Mortensen knows that either. There's no way on earth he knows that we didn't come close to catching a single presumed enemy.

      I respect Viggo as an actor. I think he did a phenomenal job portraying Aragorn son of Arathorn. But if he really means the things he said in this interview, he is not a very objective thinker.

      Let me be very clear about this. Do I think it's wrong to question our administration? Absolutely not!!! Do I think America has done some atrocious things in the name of justice? Absolutely!!!

      But to make accusations that cannot be backed up, to make statements and call them questions is just as bad as blind support for a country or political party.

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    2. Re:Air Headed Actors? by mfrank · · Score: 1

      Well, the only relevant question is:

      How do you prevent terrorism?

      It's pretty obvious that Clinton/Gore didn't know jack diddley squat about how to answer that one.

      I'd bet there are a lot fewer Al-Queda training camps in Afghanistan now.

      What do *you* think we should do?

  80. Re:Why? by EvanED · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I can see 3 months helping a lot. They could probably get everything done in time for the first release date if they really tried, but remember that they are also working on Return of the King. Remember, no matter what, the bigger set would take significantly longer to prepare, so no matter what if they were released at the same time they would have been able to get eh 2-disc one out well before. So they figure why not? People who would only get the 2-disc set will be more inclined to get it rather than pirate it, while most people who would get the expanded one would probably wait anyway. And a few of them might buy or rent the 2-disc one in the meantime, which I suspect is probably more of a bonus than a motivation.

    I don't really buy the argument that it is a greed thing; maybe that is involved a little bit, but I don't think it's the major role. Remember, they announced (I think... if not, they will soon) that there is going to be a special edition, and I doubt that they will expect too many people to buy both. (Rent perhaps, but that's about where I think that theory ends.) Meanwhile, I see putting together a DVD like that to be a time-consuming venture.

    (And for any of you who think this is like what Lucas is doing, remember that Lucas released Episode I to VHS under the official line that NO DVDs were to be released until after Episode III, while just a couple months later reports surfaced that he was in fact working on an Episode I DVD, which was announced a couple months later. Had I (and many other fans) known a DVD was in the works, there's no way I owuld have bought the VHS. *That's* sleazy. There's no trace of sleaze in the Lord of the Rings.)

  81. Some bad things, some good things... by stardeep · · Score: 1

    The first movie was alright, but leaving the end hanging like that was horrible.

    Actually, in that respect FotR was completely faithful to the book.

    I agree that TTT has its shortcomings, though: laughable dialogue between Sam and Frodo and wa-a-ay too much fighting.

    Gollum was great, though. Not to mention the pervy thrill I got from watching long-haired boys in chain mail!

    And I still respect the films for "opening up" the books for those of us who have difficulty putting up with Tolkien's disregard for chronological narrative. At least thanks to the film I know in what order stuff happens without having to look it up in the appendices! ;)

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  82. Re: The Other Japanese Solution by greed · · Score: 1
    Of course there's a solution. Don't make standard editions anymore, and release the special edition on the normal release date.
    The few things I've gone to the trouble of ordering from Japan have handled special editions the other way around.

    First comes out the special edition, with a limited pressing. When that runs out, you get the normal one.

    Of course, that does mean you have to hold up the normal edition until all the extras are ready for the special edition. On the other hand, "collectors edition" actually means something. (And doesn't cost more, at least in the cases I'm thinking of.)

  83. I can already see it : by da5idnetlimit.com · · Score: 1

    1 - Please insert DVD 5
    2 - Extra soundtrack 8 found ! please insert DVD 1
    3- Langage selection found ! Please insert disk 3
    4- Continue ad nauseam

    Ahhh, seeing a movie will be more and more like a 49 floppies Office install 8)

    But then, I, too, await the Ultra Super 12 Hours long Complete LotR 8)

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  84. Re:Why Not support films like this by bying it 2+ by knowledgepeacewi · · Score: 1

    The only way films like this can continue to be represented is if you support the artist. So if you want to buy 6 copies each and give them away, go for it. If we support PJ and his wife now they'll keep producing these wonderful artistic endeavors...and it'll send a message to the movie industry that people want this.

  85. Quick buck? by Hagakure · · Score: 1

    Step 1: Rip Two Towers to DIVX and release on internet.
    Step 2:
    Step 3: Profit! ...?!

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  86. I have a small question. by CaptIronfist · · Score: 1

    Forgive my ignorance, but is there any advantages in buying the special edition DVD, when we know there's a Uber special edition box set scheduled for next year? That is what i remember reading from some press release sometime ago, i may be wrong.

    IMO you'll get less for your money if you buy each individual special edtion DVDs. ( Just a thought )

  87. does the dvd come with a snooze button? by brysnot · · Score: 1

    I fell asleep during both movies.
    Especially the parts with the walking trees.
    Best not to get it at all. Maybe I can make my own edit of the good parts so anytime I have 5 minutes I can watch it.

  88. 46 extra minutes! by WasteOfAmmo · · Score: 1

    Thats what was missing... When I left the theatre I knew something was wrong... I could still feel my legs!

  89. How it SHOULD have looked? by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 1
    Dude, rent the first release, buy the second release to see how the movie SHOULD have looked

    It think there's an assumption in there that not everyone will agree with. I didn't think the new versions of the original Star Wars films were an improvement, and I'm not completely convinced by all of the extra footage in the FotR Special Edition, either. I'd be interested to know whether Jackson and co actually wanted to add the extra footage and didn't because it would have made for too long a cinematic release, or whether they've just added it because, like most DVDs, the powers that be demand extra material whether it's any good or not.

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    1. Re:How it SHOULD have looked? by AC5398 · · Score: 1

      I also didn't like the special-new releases of the original SW films.

      But dude, you simply cannot be thinking that the Lothlorien scenes were not greatly improved in the Special Edition of LOTR.

      For TT, I'd like to see that Special Edition add a few more extra scenes and delete some others; there were *NEVER* elves at Helms freaking Deep. And does this mean that Jackson decided to eliminate the Northern Rangers and change Aragorn's entire history? And HOW is he going to adequately explain all of this in the third movie ... [rant]

    2. Re:How it SHOULD have looked? by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 1
      But dude, you simply cannot be thinking that the Lothlorien scenes were not greatly improved in the Special Edition of LOTR.

      I don't dislike all of the scenes, but I'm not convinced they all improved the film, either. It's long already, and you don't need yet more plodding introduction in the first half of the film if it's not furthering the plot. As I said, I'd be interested to know which version (or combination of versions) Jackson would have preferred to make, without any external pressures on time, extras, etc.

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  90. Exactly One Month after my Wedding by mindhaze · · Score: 1

    *big grins* I almost put a reminder on my wedding day that the DVD would be released in a month. Somehow, I don't think that would have gone over very well.

  91. date mix-up by Lust · · Score: 1

    Forget this archaic date syntax of MM/dd/YYYY. Get with the program and use one of the more international formats:

    YYYY/MM/dd (2003/08/26)

    dd MMM YYYY (26 Aug 2003)

    It makes life less confusing.

  92. Re:concerning the 'extra' minutes... by valkraider · · Score: 1

    Thats what they did with TFOTR, it is *in* the movie. When we watch our extended version DVD we get the WHOLE movie start to finish, I am assuming they would do that fot TTT...

  93. Another "special" edition is already available by danila · · Score: 1
    Taken from here

    This is something special for all Tolkien lovers here. When The Two Towers was released in cinemas, many people disliked (and some hated) the changes to Tolkien's story (Faramir, Ents, etc.). If you had similar feelings, this file is for you.

    This is a re-edit of the DVD-screener that deals with most of the changes that people disliked. To name just the biggest ones: no Elves at HD, normal Faramir, normal Ents, Arwen doesn't leave, no "exorcism", etc. As a result, this version is about 40 minutes shorter, but it is superiour to the original release. The editing is seamless and it is amazing how the author of the reedit managed in some places to completely undo Jackson's changes and make something much more faithful to Tolkien.

    So, enough talking, download and see for yourselves. You can also check the trailer first.

    Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers - The Purist Edit
    ed2k://|file|Lord_of_the_Rings-The_Two_Towers-The_ Purist_Edit.avi|729462784|ec0671172619e490d7b0ea6b 5278468c|/

    The Purist Edit Trailer
    ed2k://|file|The_Two_Towers-The_Purist_Edit-Traile r.avi|14997504|965c013e991ee246d63d45ea71954c4d|/

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  94. Screener by peu · · Score: 1

    If you live outside USA as myself (Argentina) you can rent 2towers on DVD-R with spanish subtitles, copied from the DVD supplied to Oscar voters, if you don't mind a small legend "For your consideration" from time to time...

  95. My way.... by eniu!uine · · Score: 1

    I downloaded the movie and snuck drinks/snacks into the theater, but your way is much more moral... er... no.. much more legal.

  96. Re:Just like last time, I waited and bought neithe by adamfranco · · Score: 1

    I think that the main issue here is motivation. If they are doing this just to get people to buy twice, then that sucks. However (as PJ and the Weta people have said in many interviews), the reason for the dual release is two-fold:

    Normal release -
    a) People want it now.
    b) People want to have what they saw in the theator.

    Special Edition -
    a) Many fans want a release that has more depth [length] than the theator market can support; hence a second release - a different movie.
    b) To make this longer release takes time and a lot of work; hence the delay.

    In many cases, such as the Star Wars special editions, they just seem like marketing tricks. The LOTR Special Editions however contain much more than extras; they are genuinely different films that deserve to be released separately. Anyway, if you wanted the version that showed in the theators to also come with the Special Editions, they'd have to be something like 6 DVDs. I for one just want the SE version that had more time/love put into it. Screw the short theator one, its for those who can't sit still.

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  97. Re:Sure go ahead by pig-of-war · · Score: 2, Funny

    Screw that. I would deliver the Ring of Power to the Dark Lord himself if he promised to give me a copy of the extended version a week before anyone else got it. (Sure, he would cover all the land in a second darkness, but just think how jealous all the other geeks on the block would be.)