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Kazaa-lite Shut Down
atari2600 writes "Finally it has happened. Zeropaid is reporting that the Kazaalite K++ project has been shutdown by Sharman Networks. The project, which had been set up to block spy and ad ware within the Kazaa Media Desktop Program has achieved notoriety within the P2p world through its simplistic approach and success in reverse engineering the Kazaa application."
Well I guess thats one way to stop P2P usage. Destroy the only good kazaa client.
Who cares, there ae enough GiFT frontends for both linux and windows available which will give you the same functionality.
Sharman shutting down K++ for copyright infringement? Isn't that what the RIAA is trying to do to Sharman... I know, I know, sharman doesn't actually host illegal files on their site, but it seems their entire business model revolves around copying music illegally.
Well, it is a decentralized network, so it cannot be shut down. Nut there will be no more updates, I suppose.
I think Sharman will be in for a surprise once the find out that 75% of its 'users' were on the bootleged client. It's pretty obvious, those users aren't coming back either. The RIAA has already turned that network to shit with their corrupted songs. I guess we call all move on up to BitTorrent :D
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And someone will strip-out the spyware.
And, pray tell, how can something out of the reach of the RIAA's long legal arm can have things done????
You can still find it on Kazaa. Oh the irony.
Zeropaid /.'ed. Alternative article. Probably the original anyway.. zeropaid has a habit of ahem 'stealing' news.
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My Kazaa Lite still works... I don't feel the need to upgrade anytime soon, so it's not going to make a huge difference to me. Heck, I'm still using Word 97.
Even if the Kazaa Lite website goes away, what's to prevent people from trading the old version of Kazaa Lite on Kazaa?
Guess it's time to start using mlMac and Poisoned on my Mac
"Where do P2P'ers go when they die" ..."
"They don't go to heaven where the angels fly
The project, which had been set up to block spy and ad ware within the Kazaa Media Desktop Program has achieved notoriety within the P2p world through its simplistic approach and success in reverse engineering the Kazaa application.
However, the program infringed on the copyright of Sharman Networks, the company that now own and program the Kazaa Media Desktop application, after the purchase of the code and copyright in 2002. The FastTrack (Kazaa) network is financed through advertising systems, which Kazaa Lite K++ does not include, and so was seen as a threat by the owners.
Sharman have threatened legal action, and ordered that the offending content be removed from the official Kazaa Lite sites, including http://www.kazaalite.tk/ which now contains no reference to the existance of the application.
RatFaced said that the decision was ?Ironic, that Kazaa is complaining about copyright issues, especially as K-Lite ++ stands for everything that Kazaa CLAIMS to stand for... but fails to deliver.?
We will perhaps never see Kazaa Lite again, but we can hope that users will remain aware of the spyware that is hidden inside the Kazaa application, which is used to finance the creation of the software.
eMule and WinMX offer spyware-free alternatives to Kazaa.
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Sorry, there are no convenient music outlets available in my bedroom, at 11.30 p.m, on a Sunday evening.
Maybe except this one and this one and this one and this one and...
And be it that it may that you are only interested in music, many other people do have other interests. I use kazaa k++ for perfectly legitimate reasons, such as finding beta patches to games or looking for humerous video clips.
Why should people "just buy the factory CDs anyway"? Most of them are crap. They are a waste of money. The RIAA has screwed itself with its own corporate greed by constantly promoting artists that are without talent. If I want to show the artists that I enjoy what they do, I will go to a live performance. Most artists are not seeing any substantial income from their CD sales- that gets eaten up by the record companies for a bunch of bullshit fees and promotion costs. Bands make their money from touring- and the RIAA now wants a bigger piece of that pie too.
I've found that the time it takes to get good (192kbps+) versions of songs off of a complete album is much longer and expensive than simply shelling out 10 bucks for the CD at a music store.
I can download a 600 meg movie from other people on campus in about 15 seconds. I have also found this time to be way too long for it to be worthwhile. So, I just let my roomates download it.
It wasn't the RIAA that took down Kazaa Lite, it was Sharman Networks (the creators of the "real" Kazaa). Kazaa Lite was a reverse engineered and modified version of Kazaa, and Sharman complained it was copyright infringement.
and i was just about to download it to get some songs i REALLY need.
If you're to the point of REALLY NEEDING them, and not just wanting them, you could always go buy the cd.
Everything will be taken away from you.
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See, I live in a dorm, and we're unable to connect to Kazaa here, the network flat out won't let us, with no (legal) way around it. For some reason though, K-Lite still connects. Can someone reccomend a good program to me for all file types? I predominantly download movies, the occasional game to demo it, and sometimes music. And please don't reccomend iMesh. I don't know if I could have intentionally installed that much spyware on my computer. I strongly doubt they have anything of the GNU variety blocked, but there are so many GNU P2P programs I don;t know which one to get. Noobish question I'm sure, but any advice is appreciated.
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So boys and girls, for your video needs, be they anime, TV shows or movies, turn over to
suprnova.org . It's not as exaustive as Kazaa, but there are thousand of excellent torrents over there.
I've said this before, and I will say it again. BT is not a good network for illegal content.
It's efficient in distributing large files quickly, especially if lots of people want them. However, it does so at the cost of any and all anonymity.. It's trivial to find IPs of people sharing any file (just ask the tracker; it'll give you a FULL LIST), without even downloading the file/joining the swarm yourself.
The MPAA at least has already begun sending DMCA-ish notices to ISPs stating "BitTorrent" as the network name..
As I've also said before, Don't do things illegal in your country!
(And if you want to do them, maybe you need to move to a different Country? God bless Canada and the blank media tax; I don't mind paying a little bit on every CD-R for a music piracy license!)
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I guess we can all move on up to BitTorrent :D
BitTorrent is too centralized for this kind of things (large scale, anyway).
Instead, check out eMule and Soulseek.
Treehugger? Treehugger... Treehugger!
At the bottom of one of the articles about K++'s shutdown, is a link for Diet K (http://www.dietk.com/).
Since the site doesn't really say too much about it, has anyone ever used it?
You can find Kazaa on K Lite ++ too!
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I would gladly pay $10 for a good CD (i.e. one that has more than 2 decent songs on it) by a band that I like. I think what people have a problem with is paying almost $20 for a CD with maybe 1 or 2 songs they actually want to hear. As much as I dislike Wal-Mart and Best Buy, these stores have been holding down the price of most new music.
I just took a look at the Kazaa Lite homepage and found a new app on the list I haven't seen since my last check a few weeks ago.... It seems "Soul Seek" (that name bothers me) is the replacement they are now offering... One catch, IT'S A CENTRAL SERVER! So why hasn't the RIAA ran after this?
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Maybe the RIAA has paid off the makers of K++ and made this new "app" as a honeypot for people to use instead so to collect data on users who request songs that are copyrighted... What kept K++ anonymous was its decentralized system, why would the RIAA not go after something that is directly hosting copyrighted files? Unless some news about the RIAA going after Soul Seek comes up, I am gonna steer clear of it...
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Business \Busi"ness\, n.;
A scam in which all people involved perceive as beneficial...
Kazaa lite was getting bloated anyways. It serves it's purpose with the no advertisments. Instead, they decide to add all of these great features such as "download enhancers." There really isn't anything else they could add. The current version is fine.
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Download Kazaa
Search for KAzaa K++
download it
Install it
And delete the regular KAzaa
I know it works because I did it on a computer I was setting up.
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What if the song you want is a special remix which isn't available in the stores? What if the album you want is from an artist who nobody sells and the label which origionaly released the song is not around anymore? Does going down to the store and shelling out $15 for a CD which cannot be purchased to support that artist hold water anymore? I feel this is the REAL tragady of P2P. Plus I live in the US, I happen to like Eurodance and other forms of music from Europe. However such music is not easy to find here especialy since CDNow was purchased by Amazon.
Everyone talks about getting their music for free and whatnot. For me P2P was all about discovering new music. When I was on Napster back in the day my CD purchasing budget was about $50-$100 a month! I was getting new songs which *I* liked, not what some marketing department wanted me to listen to. Also as I mentioned earler, what about preserving music which cannot be found leagaly? P2P makes for a great medium for this!
Damm u RIAA, Metalica and everyone else who was against P2P.
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Windows Lite.
You can always download it here: OldVersion
Sound waves should be free!
Longer? depends how far you are from the shops, and how fast your net connection is. N/m whether the store *has* what you want!
More expensive? haha.. one is free m8, or at least should be lower cost, if you're paying for the connection anyway or someone else is.
Lower quality? you're using the wrong networks, or don't know how to use them right, or are an audiophile who thinks he can hear differences but can't ABX them.
sorry to sound like an argumentative d*ck but the net *is* a better distribution method in general, for music.
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My main usage for P2P is still to sample songs from an artist. It used to be radio was the way to do so. With the radio playlists being controlled so heavily by a few companies. And those companies (Clear Channel, etc) in bed with the recording industry how do we as consumers get to listen to new artists that we might enjoy rather than what the industry wants me to buy? I stopped listening to the radio years ago because my musical tastes did not revolve around gangster rap or boy bands or female teenage pop sensations. So when I get a recommendation from my friends, I find the song. If I like it, I buy the album. If not, I delete the song. Others may not be as moral, but like most things in life, it's how you use something, not the item itself that really determines its value.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
On a side note, my best friend the sys admin for the hub was shut down because in a month he had uploaded roughly 1.5 tera of data. His friend and insider in the networking department looked up his file and found the following note:
"DO NOT RE-CONNECT WITHOUT FIRST TALKING TO B_______ E_______ FIRST! This is the most flagrant misuse of network reasorces I have ever seen in my career."
Needless to say we framed it and put it on the wall.
"The truth suffers from too much analysis"
Does running btdownloadheadless on a foreign shell account while going through an open proxy in brazil through your neighbors insecure wireless access point count as another country?
For every annoying gentoo user, are three even more annoying anti-gentoo crybabies. Take Yosh from #Gimp for example.
The main thing that people may not be getting is that not only is Sharman shutting down the Kazaa Lite download sites (which in it of itself would not be so much of a problem since it can be distributed over P2P), it's also making the new client (2.5) not let K-Lite (or any Kazaa under 2.4 for that matter) participate in its shares, basically banning it from the mainstream Kazaa network. If we factor in the fact that K-Lite users generally disable becoming a supernode, this becomes a real problem.
However, the article also mentions that there is DietK which strips all of the adware off of Kazaa (although it doesn't have all of the other nice features of K-Lite), and other clients which are still compatible with the fast track network.
Alot of people don't seem to care about Kazaalite. To some degree I don't either; it certainly doesn't effect me. This does, however, set a very bad legal precident.
Alot of the spyware out there is destructive. It can and does slow your computer down, mess with your system settings, and in some cases completely disable your computer. Perhaps if Kazaalite was making money off this (i think they might have been..maybe it was diet kazaa) it would be a slightly different matter. Regardless, users of their own computers should have the right to disable software which causes their computer to do things which they don't want it to. Hell, forget doing it for a profit. A car manufacturer can't prevent me from buying a modified or refurbished car from a private dealer.
Alot of people out there want to pass consumer rights laws to combat the DMCA and other intrusive laws. This is not a good solution -- its only an eternal game of cat and mouse. These laws need to be repealed. Sure, let microsoft use copy-protection and other schemes for their xbox, but don't stop me, as the owner of that piece of equipment, from modifying it so that it does what *I* want it too.
The problem with your argument is that most people don't want to download all the songs on an album- they only want a few. To download 2 or 3 good songs off of an album at high quality (192kbps+) still takes less time than it would to get in your car and drive to the store. And it is also infinitely cheaper.
Funny you should say that because there was a USA Today article in today's newspaper that discussed the implications of a single song music market, ie- the end of the album. There are still some artists who produce albums as an artistic whole, not just a bunch of singles, but as a complete artistic statement. The fear is that if the per song market becomes dominent, that the art of albums will consequently suffer.
Definitely some interesting thoughts to consider. I've been on both sides of the fence. I've bought albums that I thought, "Wow, the rest of this sucks." and I've also bought albums and thought, "Wow, I'm so glad I have all of this, it rocks!".
Who said Freedom was Fair?
I predict that the only consequences that this could have for Sherman's network are negative ones. Honestly, have the sharers with fast connections been using the proper, sherman client? Simply, NO! Can one really expect, after so long sans spyware, these advanced, high-speed users to begin to use their spyware-filled client? Simply, NO! These users will maintain the status quo by continuing to use their existing Kazaa-lite clients, or they won't share on the Kazaa network at all; either way, how does this help you, Sherman?
I don't know about you, but none of the wal-marts's within a hundred miles of me are open past 11 nor do they open before 9.
Mail-order companies also refuse to deliver there? What is this place, Antarctica? International Space Station? Los Angeles South Central?
Especailly for people like me who like the smaller, less known bands that don't sell in big (if ANY) stores.
A "smaller, less known band" is usually also harder to find at the p2p's.
But for the artists that I like, I would rather pirate their CD and send them the $20 directly.
Nice idea, but somehow everyone stops on the first half.
Overnet (formerly eDonkey)
Games, Software, Keygens, Cracks, anything you can think of, just a little slow at beginning of download, but after awhile, downloads from over 100 sources at a time.
DC++
Games, Software, Keygens, Cracks, anything you can think of, just a little harder to use and overall slower, unless you use the 1stleg hublist (http://www.1stleg.com/PublicHubList.config)
Soulseek
Mainly for music. Search for artists, select lots of tracks, leave on overnight and PRESTO! Instant GIGABYTES of music.
BitTorrent
Use other sites to search for files, and download with this software.
That's all I can think of right now, but that should get you started.
the new shareaza beta is amazing, hasn't crashed, but it includes the gnutella, gnutella2 (mike's...),edonkey, and bittorrent download here PS: No Spyware
That's fine, assuming that everything you want is available for sale. My wife and I have several thousand CDs and an even larger number of LPs (remember those?).You'd be amazed at how many things that were issued on vinyl have never re-appeared on CD.
During the "Golden Age" of file sharing we were in that group of people who were uploading far more tracks than we ever downloaded. And the vast majority of our uploads were tracks we had ripped from vinyl and cleaned up. Tracks like obscure Siouxsie Sioux EPs and b-sides. We were the first people to rip the "Will Powers" album.
It's fine if you don't know what I'm talking about and it's also fine if you don't care. But the point is that there were a lot of people who wanted these tracks and the no way to get them. What are they supposed to do? For instance, it's the Xmas season. Labels release special tracks to radio stations - Warner Brothers' collection used to be called "Winter Warnerland" and had some really bizzare stuff. Fans want every track and every track simply isn't for sale.
"How perfectly Goddamn delightful it all is, to be sure" Charles Crumb
There's a new Kazaa spyware-free client out called Fat-Free Decaffinated K!
Procrastination sucks.
That's almost true. I have a large collection of music CDs, although I always mp3 them to play on my computer. I don't have a problem with buying music, domestic or import, although I do wonder about the prices sometimes. The artist gets their $0.12 share, whatever. The government gets more in tax on the sale.
The only time I resort to a P2P application, or any other means for that matter, is when I simply can't find a song on a CD. There's a lot of music that you just can't buy here. It may be out of print, never released in the US and not easily imported, etc. If I can't buy it, then I'll acquire it.
Is it wrong? Perhaps, perhaps not. Until there's a good alternative to finding ANY published song, which is A: free from the esoteric issues of regional licensing restrictions, and B: complete enough to find everything I'm looking for, I'd say it's not unreasonable to use a P2P application (or other available technology) to find them.
GPL: Free as in will
C'mon, guys.... as the RIAA shuts down p2p networks and applications, new ones appear every now and then.
Sherman is doing a similar thing, and won't be the exception.
I guess we'll soon see Kazaa Ultra Lite++++.
Well, I object to the stupid cd-r tax! I mean, I don't ever burn my downloaded music! Why should I pay the RIAA to burn my warez ! ;)
"When a ball dreams, it dreams it's a frisbee"
5.) Don't forget to run something like Spybot or Adaware right after uninstalling Kazaa.
Bittorrent is centralized for P2P.
Shareaza 1.9 is out. It supports 4 protocols.
I use kazaa k++ for perfectly legitimate reasons, such as finding beta patches to games or looking for humerous video clips.
Who's he trying to fool with "humorous video clips" We all know what he's really downloading.
(And if you want to do them, maybe you need to move to a different Country? God bless Canada and the blank media tax; I don't mind paying a little bit on every CD-R for a music piracy license!)
Ha ! Think so ?
I don't know about Canada, but here in France we pay a tax on every cdrs, and IIRC on every storage device, HDD whatever (because everyone knows that if you buy a HDD or a CDR, it's to fill it with mp3s...)
It'a quite stupid, but at least you'd think that since you've paid a tax because you copy medias it's now your right to do so...
Not at all ! copying a cd to your friend is still illegal, file sharing is still illegal, and we hear all time on TV that "media producing companies" are complaining because we're nasty pirates who suck their money. Never mind the fact that on any CDR I buy (mostly for archiving raw sounds that I produced), I have to pay 5% (IIRC) more to compensate them.
Still, we never heard them complaining so much...
there is also an alternative to the adware/spyware-free K++. diet kazaa is an add-on for kazaa that strips it of adware and spyware. so who really needs K++ anymore?
I do. We have a similar thing in the US. Every time you buy a blank audio tape, video tape, or DAT tape, Disney and others get a cut of the sale.
Why should the producers of "Martin Luther King Speaks" have to pay Disney for the privilege of producing their own program?
www.shareaza.com connects to multiple networks at one time and is a bitorrent client.
Takes a little longer to get music files, but for larger downloads, it's worked faster than kazaa.
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See the RIAA doesnt want you to sample tracks before you buy them because they want you to buy the cd to sample the track. This way no matter what they always get the sale. Now that the consumer has such an easy way to sample whole albums/track to decide where they like it or not RIAA is loosing money from you and me not buying the whole cd. They hate you and me for that. All of a sudden my cd purchase choices have gotten smarter and "I" save myself money by not spending $20 for a piece of plastic because most of the album sucks.
Thats right RIAA "I" save money by pre listening to music from P2P.
Anyways Im hung over so all ove the above might not make any sence once I reread it in a few hours.
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
When you watch a pirate movie, everyone's a criminal, and technically everyone's a "bad" guy, but still within the logic of the movie there are distinct people you come to think of as "good guys" and "bad guys".
Napster is the crazy, "bad but cool", immoral and greedy but gallant and kind pirate. His death scene is dramatic and gets you all pissed off at whoever it was who took him down. Afterward his crew scatters and his ship is sold off to some random merchant group.
Gnutella is the romantic, moral, and heroic pirate who fails either because of incompetence but because his own lack of cruelty (or, depending on how you look at it, his softness) is in the end exploited as a weakness.
Sharman Networks is the band of pirates which is just plain EVIL. They don't care about anything, they have no positive qualities, and despite the whole pirates-are-cool mentality of the movie, I mean, come on, they're just *evil*. Their leader, Kazaa, is bloodthirsty and cruel, and he killed his gallant and kind first mate Morpheus-- who is played by Orlando Bloom and who most of the audience had fallen in love with at that point-- in cold blood, out of pure envy and greed.
The RIAA, of course, is the stock British Navy captain, because even though he technically represents "good", and technically one supposes his job is to go around and save lives and stuff, you root against him anyway, because he's a slimeball, he's blatantly corrupt, and everyone who works for him was cruelly and forcibly conscripted into a hellish life of prison-like service to the navy during raids on passing ships which are not really (when you think about it) much different from the raids performed by the pirates.
Irritable, left-wing and possibly humorous bumper stickers and t-shirts
I could care less, I stopped downloading from it some time ago. Another /.er recommended iRate, which is quite good.
I could care less what a program wants to "spy" on when it's on a VMware os with a bare bones WinXP Pro install. Shut down VMware, don't save the changes, and I start VMware every time with a fresh, uh... virgin :) os and my P2P app.
www.vmware.com
Here's a tip, make one VMware session that has all the known P2P apps outthere. Let the spyware install! Horray! Bwcause there is nothing to spy on. Inside the dedicated "P2P machine" I keep all the P2P's in the startup and hide all desktop icons and even the taskbar is set to autohide. Start the machine, download stuff, then just ftp to main box. Then shut down vmware without saving. Simple.
Open source equivs to VMware? There are some I think. Know of any?
It seems to me that (for this, as well as for similar projects) it would be convenient to build a "shadow source" development network - something that would resemble the mutant hybrid child of Freenet and Sourceforge. If the system includes anonymous relaying/distributed storage, combined with some means of trust verification (to keep saboteurs out of codebases), it would become essentially impossible for anyone to squelch a development effort (such as "Kazaa Lite" or "Freecraft".)
Instaed of listening to western crap (Britney & Co.) I get cheap CDs from India, and the music is much better!
So when I get a recommendation from my friends, I find the song. If I like it, I buy the album. If not, I delete the song. Others may not be as moral, but like most things in life, it's how you use something, not the item itself that really determines its value.
Right... And what if the artist doesn't want you to sample the song on Kazaa? You're amazing. You're more moral than I am because you only do it a little? Nonsense. Either copying without permission of the copyright holder is moral, or it's immoral. Personally I say it's moral. Actually, personally I say it's immoral to pay those bastards at the RIAA money when you could be donating it to charity or using it to make this world better. But hey, that's just me.
It's more convenient to steal things without leaving my chair.
Any idea how hard it is to find Sultana in the US? There's one mail order company I have found that has one of her CDs despite her allegedly being one of the more popular Turkish rap acts.
And where do I send my money to buy a new copy of Bjork's "Telegram" (which I had on CD and lost and now have only the case it came in). That was a fan club release of which only a few hundred copies were ever distributed - so I guess I just never get to hear those songs again? How does that help the artist? How does Bjork (or her label) profit from my never being allowed again to listen to music from her that I once enjoyed?
Siouxsie and Budgie took the initiative long ago and setup their own online label and they have been able to profit from it ever since. I have no qualms about shelling out $20 for one of their CDs because I know where most of that money is going and I've enjoyed their music for nearly 30 years now. There's a lot of other artists I'd love to send money to - Neil Young, Kate Bush, Linda, Sultana, Bjork (whose albums I have purchased in the past but, sadly, I have had to forego in the last release because of my commitment to boycott the RIAA) and Moloko.
Is it my fault most of these artists either cannot put up personal web spaces because of record company contracts or they simply don't realize there may be profit in it for them?
Even if it was, it ain't anymore. The net has been the best thing in the history of recorded music for the dedicated music fan. It's too bad it's taking so long for the artists to catch up with that revolution... but they will. Just as soon as their old contracts run out.
While a band does get a large chunk of the price of their shirts and other merchandise, a lot of times the shady vendors simply never send them their check.
Don't forget about Low Sodium K too...
Blarf.
"I've found that the time it takes to get good (192kbps+) versions of songs off of a complete album is much longer and expensive than simply shelling out 10 bucks for the CD at a music store."
So you spent $15 for 2 good songs and supported an organization who'll claim you are a thief when you rip that CD to your iPod. Yeah you found a brilliant solution there.
"Derp de derp."
Ever since I started to listen to internet radio I never used a p2p network again, and I havent looked back. Go to www.shoutcast.com. They have all types of music, for free, at decent quality. You can use winamp to play streaming audio for windows, or xmms to play streams on linux. No more dicking around with dcc or kazaa networks. Oh yeah.. unlike normal radio there are no commercials either.
Selling software wont make you money, selling a service will.
I assume that your comment is meant call gift-fasttrack "yet another kazza clone." It is not. What it IS is very worth your consideration.
GIFT (http://gift.sf.net) is now a wonderful program that connects to Fasttrack (kazaa,) the old fasttrack network (openfasttrack), the opennapster network (old napster), and gnutella. When you do a search in one of the gift frontends you do a search in all of those protocols.
The interfaces could use some polishing (i like giFTcurs the best), but I think gift has a tremendous amount of potential.
What comes first, finding a teacher or becoming a student?
Lately I've been just running the Linux CLI version of EDonkey2000. It's actually kind of fun using a terminal instead of a gui.it's at http://www.edonkey2000.com/downloads.php if you're interested.
http://mutella.sourceforge.net/ is another terminal client. It is more aesthetially pleasing than the Edonkey, but there seem to be less people there. I've generally had more success w/ Edonkey, but "your mileage may vary".
As was mentioned elsewhere in this page, gift (http://gift.sourceforge.net/) is another one, and it comes in CLI version as well as the gui. I haven't tried this one yet, but it looks like it uses its own network OpenFT, which could mean less people/files. Not sure if it also connect to other networks as well.
Yesterday as I drove to work I listened to a song on the radio broadcast city wide for anyone to listen to free of charge. When I came home I listened to the same song on my PC in MP3 format that I downloaded free of charge. What's the difference? I didn't pay for either one. And, chances are, I'm not going to invest in many of the radio station's advertised products. And also, since it's free on the radio, and really isn't that great, I don't feel like paying for it. So again, what's the difference?
---- "Excuse me. Where's the children's gun section?"
hide you IP number . Very easy for them to bill you.
Use anonymous P2P.
When do you hear wide playing of so-called "B" sides? All you hear are what the companies consider the top 3-4 songs at most to promote the album. If that's all people hear, then that's all people want.
The Riaa is on to Kazaa. Hell they probably have everyone's ip number from that P2p. Try these alternatives !!
The rules can be changed dude! RIAA aren't gods. If people don't like the rules anymore than a process of changing the rules starts, and that's what happens now. I bet you never liked history.
diet kazaa is an interesting product.
it modifies the kazaa client at runtime, and therefore is not in dmca-trouble (the authors are rather careful about it).
it suppresses ads, paid search results, and kazaa spyware. it also allows more than the limited number of searches, automatic re-searching for files, and other nifty things.
the only problem with it, is that you need a full kazaa install, and therefore must install the kazaa spyware (which is then removed by dietk).
i would recommend it.
giFT is good for a few reasons: 1. OpenFT is kind of in shambles now, but 90% of the time, if you find a file on OpenFT, you'll be able to download it at 100kB/sec. 2. giFT supports plugins for different networks, like gift-gnutella, gift-fasttrack, and the soon coming gift-opennap and gift-soulseek. 3. One of the lead devs on the gift-fasttrack plugin, Julian Ashton, has just cracked the Fasttrack 0xA9 encryption, so gift-fasttrack can connect to new (Kazaa 2.5) supernodes. It currently takes about 30 seconds to connect to Fasttrack with giFT. 4. It's open source (GPL I believe). 5. No malware of any sort (it's open source, after all). 6. gift-fasttrack supports malicious host blocking with a long list of hosts that aren't friendly for p2p sharing.
I mod down pyramid schemes in sigs.
That won't happen. Sharman is secretly in league with them. All that spyware crap in Kazaa is there to rat you out to the RIAA and MPAA. P2P is not what it was in the Napster era. Still, this won't make Kazaa lite go away, it will just make it go back underground, which will make it even cooler.
How ya like dat?
I've found that when I buy CD's a very small portion of the money goes to the artist. Since my primary objective in buying a CD would be to support that artist, it doesn't make sense for me to purchase a CD.
When you add to that the fact that the RIAA is a very political entity; a political entity which has been instrumental in bringing about legislation which I vehemently oppose, it makes it quite clear that I cannot buy CD's from bands represented by an RIAA label.
The RIAA has gotten into politics. They've gotten into my life. This is the result. It's not about how easy it is to get an mp3 for me anymore. It's a matter of principle. And on that principle I will happily sacrifice quality and time to avoid funding and supporting a political entity which I do not agree with.
Most of the bands I listen to support taping of their live shows 100%. The rest of them are either dead or rich beyond belief and really won't feel any pain if I don't buy my copy of Forty Licks.
Unless your civil liberties and freedom mean nothing, you should not buy the factory CDs.
Show the artists that you enjoy what they do by buying some merchandise from them at a show or off their website, and then sending them a letter or email explaining that you are a fan, and that you can't buy their CD for political reasons, but that you bought some of their stuff at a concert or off their site to show your support.
You are forgetting the crucial network supported by giFT: OpenFT. The old fasttrack network is long gone, dead ever since Sharman Networks dumped it for the new version. OpenFT is being developed exactly because it's tough to depend on proprietary software that chooses which platforms to support and leaves everybody else in the dark.
We should benefit a lot from OpenFT as it matures. So far, it's the best offering we have for a non-centralized, Kazaa-style network.
Who says Macs don't have good P2P? Poisoned is an excellent giFT front end for OS X. Open source and everything. Supports OpenFT, Fasttrack, Gnutella, with OpenNapster and eDonkey on the way.
My God, as a FreeBSD user I think I'd have a heart attack if all these companies started putting their online music into Windows Media format and DRM to boot. I think I speak for most if not all of the Linux and BSD users out there too. Anyway, think about it -- you're getting a "CD" that is compressed in a lossy format by about 13 times over. That is not worth 10 bucks. If you take quality into account, a $15 CD in that format is worth only $1.15.
If anyone can start mirroring it, or even hacking it to keep it up to date as though the project never quit, this official "shutdown" won't even matter.
"Sufferin' succotash."
So they have shut down the SITE used to distribute new k-lite builds. Now if only the authors could find some new way to distribute programs. Prefferably something decentralised and difficult to stop... hmmm... I know, how about the fasttrack network? ;)
...when we'll see the first network (that I'd know of anyway) that'll use "friends" that'll route the content. Basicly, you send out requests looking for a friend of a friends of a friend that has what you seek, and it'll get routed through them.
Yes, it would slow the network speed to about 1/nth, where n is the average number of people you have to route through. However, n needn't be very large in practice. As has been shown with the socalled "small world" network theory, each person needs few outside links to make n small. And online, that is easier than ever.
Basicly, I'd think it would be most useful if each node kept a small search database (e.g. the share lists of all their direct friends), and if not found, pass the request on. Would make for a bit more transfers, but a (zipped) metadata file is trivially small compared to an mp3 or divx rip. Think it'd be more efficient than searching local node only. It would also give you a good list of files you could browse where transfers should be fast (direct P2P), which is always nice.
The advantages would be great: No central point of attack. No way to "scan" the network. Your identity is only revealed to your friends, who already know you. Because I know many people do not appriciate opening up their files to the entire Internet. However, they'd have no problem sharing with friends and family.
Also, your bandwidth goes to someone "close" to you. (Priority should probably be given to closer friends, both because of less links involved (more efficient) and because they're friends per se).
I think that'd be a welcome addition to the current crop of P2P nets, not to replace the current P2P nets but rather to replace the direct IRC/ICQ/MSN/FTP/whatever transfers. I definately think there's a market here for all those that have been scared off more traditional P2P nets.
Kjella
Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
There's an excellent graphical frontend for giFT: Apollon, which uses the qt libraries. After using it, even kazaalite seems confusing and bloated!
On the other hand, I've had troubles connecting to the OpenFT network (read: I cannot connect). Perhaps it's just me...
Anyway, the links:
"I think it would be a good idea!"
Gandhi, about Internet Security
I've used DietK before I used Kazaa Lite, and it is very awesome. It achieves the same effect as Kazaa Lite, but instead goes on top of regular Kazaa. Give it a spin!
I do however, still recommend GiFT and Apollon for P2P, it's simply the best.
Way to go Sharman! You have now hurt your branding appeal.
Check out Apollon (apollon.sf.net) for a nice linux front end for gift. I like it much better than the kazaalite client and it can use the gift plugins to connect to the kazaa network as well as others.
Download Kazaa Lite 2.4.3 from:
Kazaa Lite 2.4.3
The interfaces could use some polishing (i like giFTcurs the best), but I think gift has a tremendous amount of potential.
The potential being a fine from the RIAA.
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
Oh, but if you read my post closely, you would see that I would RATHER... never said I have. Well, I have but because I knew or met the band - so that really doesn't count for these . But if there was a way to contact Linkin Park and get the money to them somehow without it being pocketed by some temp worker hired to sort their mail, then I would. My problem is not with buying the CD... My problem lies in funding the greed and ego-centric selfishness of organizations like the RIAA. I don't buy this bullshit they give where you have to support the artist because an artist's income is less than 10% from their CD sales. I use my insignificand and mute voice to challenge them to do as they say... But nobody seems to realize that - you are all too busy leeching the free music because you don't want to pay and use the RIAA as the excuse. I do pay - when I can... but I don't pay WHO I can... I could buy every CD with every song I have tomorrow if I HAD to, but it would take the same act of God to get me to do that as it would to make the RIAA die and realize what retarded selfish assholes they are. And yes, when a company makes it a good offer for all sides (EG Universal lowering the prices of their CD's while raising the percentage given to the artist - I bought the 8 alblums they publish that I like.
Erutangis ym si siht.