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Linux Conf 2004 Gives in Many Ways
Noddy writes "The Australian Linux Conf 2004 wrapped up today, with a few geek notables being dunked for their contributions.. to charity that is. Cystic Fibrosis benefitted from the likes of Andrew Tridgell, Damien Conway and Linus Torvalds stripping down, Linus getting into his speedos, and all getting wet. Video of the Linus dunking and a few images are available (thanks Internode). Bet the girls can't wait for the 'Geek Boys of Open Source' pinup calendar after seeing these shots of Linus. Great work guys! More conf wrap-up info also at ZDNet."
I know we'll probably have our share of gay jokes, trolls, and comments about Linux being gay and what have you, but I ask that you avoid making fun of people who had the guts to sit nearly naked in front of hundreds of other guys just so they could do their part to put their fame to a good cause and donate a lot of money to the very worthy Cystic Fibrosis foundations.
I probably wouldn't have had the guts to be able to do something like that, but Linus and those other guys did, and I think we should praise them instead of poking fun at them like Slashdotters do all too often.
Thanks, Linus, for continuing to be a leader.
Background: 28/M/Bi-Sexual; Owner of a Linux company; MBA Harvard 2003; B.S. Comp Sci MIT 2000
"Linus Torvalds stripping down, Linus getting into his speedos, and all getting wet"
Only 9.95/hour!
...Phew! good thing stallman wasnt invited>;)
...get a cool penguin seal.
First Bill Gates Photoshop mod!
Is it just me or is there something blasphemous about a video of Linus in MS-Video format?
It's more likely that quite a few /.ers will find a new side to themselves after seeing pictures of this. ;)
Well, at least goatse.cx has been put under REGISTRY LOCK!
Score one for non-inane posts on Slashdot.
I had but a simple dream, to destroy all humans.
It's not very strange that the gay joke frequency rises through the roof anytime Linus is mentioned. I mean, he's both a geek and incredibly sexy, right ;)?
who wears speedos nowadays anyway...
I am sorry, but I would not have called that nearly naked. Yes, if you go by percentage of body surface they are nearly naked. But not every square inch is equally important. Simply said: They still had their speedos on - nothing about being gay or something like that.
Of course it is brave to do this - also because not all of them have the ideal figure..
Fastest. Slashdotting. Ever.
(put your pants back on, nerds!)
- c -
Why would anyone make fun of Linus naked?
I mean, he's just so HOT!!
OMG!!1, gotta go now!
holy crap, there should be a warning on those images! Almost lost my lunch over that. *shudder*
This one's gonna be a troll field day. That description was a little graphic.
Bet the girls can't wait for the 'Geek Boys of Open Source' pinup calendar after seeing these shots of Linus.
I bet more straight geek guys would buy that calendar than girls.
agreed, but did he have to wear speedo's?
I was installing Gentoo on my old thinkpad and almost "rm -Rf"'ed it when I came upon the shot of Linus in Speedos. I feel dirty...must shower.
Why weren't The linux chix invited ?!?!?! They could have raised much more money..... :D
Anybody? I think I can hear the crickets.
Pasty geeks in a calendar? For girls to look at? How about throw darts at and laugh? Seems more likely to me.
They don't have the same OSDL personal adds that we do. How is this supposed to work if we are on separate networks?
Not all of them? There's an understatement. Dude that photoshoot is my motivation to get to the gym today. No way do I wanna be looking like those fellas.
Forget thrust, drag, lift and weight. Airplanes fly because of money.
at least he isnt being a shut in with no humanity or chances to be laid, ever :P
Linus in Speedos.
Unless these guys specialize in validating identity on signed code escrow documents or something, I imagine the desired term was notables.
When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a skull.
Main site is mighty-lagged Click
I'd Hit It.
CAn'T CompreHend SARcaSm?
...(thanks Internode)
...and to show our appreciation, we're going to slashdot you.
Linus is married to a woman. He has had several children with her. I'm not sure how much more heterosexual you get.
Oh, and forget dunking Linus. Everyone likes Linus, and he was getting up in front of a horde of his fans. You know who Linux folks would pay to dunk? McBride. You want to know what takes *balls* is standing in Speedos in front of a mass of people that hate you and saying "dunk me if you can".
May we never see th
You really are organized crime...
but it takes a lot of guts (I'll refrain from saying a big set of balls from all the jokes that would lead to) to do that. Especially given the leadership role he has in the open source world. I don't think you'd find many CEO's of major companies willing to humiliate themselves in that way for charity.
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but are there no chicks in geekland? is every geek guy out of shape?
i look at the pics and think for the first time that , hey, i look pretty good!
but now comes selfdoubt! maybe if you spent an hour in a gym once, you can't be a true geek.
help me, i'm having an identity crisis! my mother doesn't buy my clothes. am i really a geek?
That reminds me of the segment on Conan outside of the opening of Attack of the Clones where Triumph the Insult Comic Dog goes up to a young woman he finds and exclaims, "Incredible, among all the nerds I've found an actual girl here... you can choose from all kinds of guys who have no idea how to please you!"
You are in error. No-one is screaming. Thank you for your cooperation.
P.S. I really wanna see if this university's pipe can take it :D
Hmm...I'm thinking just normal bathing suits probably would have been sufficient. I mean 99.999% of the population doesn't look too good in speedos. And, I doubt that geeks are much of an exception to this (/exception to this in a good way)
But, I guess 'geeks-in-speedos' probably did make the event way more humorous.
I hadn't the *slightest* idea of how nerdy these nerds are. I mean these are super dupar macho nerdy people. I feel ashamed having called myself a nerd even if it only happened once or twice. I'm like on 1 in the nerd-scale and these people are on 18446744073709551616. I'm unworthy.
they're a bunch of brainy guys having a good time.
He doesn't look to me like he's out of shape. He's got a decent set of pecs on him, and there's definition in his calf muscles. That man does exercise, by the looks of him. I bet he runs and lifts weights.
You are in error. No-one is screaming. Thank you for your cooperation.
Personally, I think they SHOULD create an "Open Source Geeks of 2004" calendar (or whatever that idea was called; it's been a long week.) *I'll* buy it, anyway. :)
Anise
I'll investigate them further.
Once again, Linus shatters previous misconceptions...Geeks do bathe!!!
It shows how these great OSS community leaders have a great sense of humor and humility to put themselves in this situation for worthwhile causes.
I know the great Gates donates money left and right and gets good press for it. Getting dunked gives you more PR goodwill (whether or not that's what these folks wanted) because of the rather personal involvement to the cause.
These are the sorts of people you'd want to be associated with. Not the uptight snobbish boss-types who just don't "get it."
Personally, given the options, I'm glad I use linux.
Manboobs!
There. That needed to be said. Maybe somebody managed to download the file before the /. crowd came in. It could be appreciated by a couple of people in here.
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That's what Open Source does to you, it will make you fat! Just look at RMS and where he is now and he's been in the Open Source business more than ten years longer than Linus. So my prediction is that ten years from now, Linus looks like an exact copy of RMS (without the beard). Stay away from Open Source!
WHERE ARE ALL THE BEARDS???
I am glad I can't grow one now...
NickA "Registry Lock" is, in any case, merely a notice that "The domain can not be modified or deleted by the registrar."
Wake me up if someone NXDOMAINs it.
i'm not even sure what it is, but it defiantely has something to do with this...
[biggest failure as nerd]
When looking at the various open source heroes, I cannot help thinking that the average geek ought to exercise a little more. I mean, look at all that flab! NOT healthy at all. Mens sana in corpore sano and all that :)
----- One learns to itch where one can scratch.
Bill Gates humiliates himself on millions of computer every day!
On behalf of ITShare/Computerbank Sth Australia, we would like to thank the organisers of LinuxConfAu...We are an Open Source Non Profit group, who take donated hardware, refurbish it, put Linux on, and donate it to low income groups and individuals.
We received AU$3600 towards a van, and also Linus sweetened the pot by adding the rights to having your name on the next kernel release.....
People also donated AU$2000+ in cash on the night. Incredible generosity!
Nothing - well thats something.
I know several of the CBSA people, and they are great to deal with.
If your in Australia and have old PC's to get rid of you should contact these guys (or one of their sister orgs around australia).
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What a splendid idea! Pin up calendar of hackers. I am willing to donate a picture of my body to it!!! Free as in beer. Some people say I should be a model instead of spending my time with computers. Where can I donate a picture of myself to be included in that pin up calendar? And a tip - Robert Love (pre emprive kernel guru) is good looking enough also to be included in that calendar. Not all the computer people look stupid and weird.
The audio is a little fuzzy for me. But did Linus yell "You throw like McBride"?
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
Hey, how cool is that? I had no idea Damien Conway was that big in the Open Source world! I had him for a computer science subject in University (Monash) and just remember him being a superb teacher, very engaging... but had no idea he was 'famous' in such circles.
Yeay!
Did Linus get hold of our precious golden liquid resource? I can't imagine what would happen if he did.....
Linus getting into his speedos, and all getting wet.
:-)
So, now we're marketing Linux to the sexually repressed teenager crowd?
I have discovered a truly marvelous
Bzzzzz. Wrong.
For many people the site is already gone, but for people like you, the DNS changes haven't propegated yet
Mod up!
Linus getting into his speedos, and all getting wet.
Slashdot. News for pervs. Stuff that matters.
I have discovered a truly marvelous
To quote the great Captain Beefheart: "Better a big waist than a big waste." So he's still got the "incipient paunch." Big fsckn deal. So he won't win Mr. Universe. Again, big fsckn deal. I don't think many of you all reading this site can boast of being physically fit. I'm not. So what?
If the "Guys of Open Source" calendar was for a good cause, like this dunk tank party was, then dammit, I'd buy it. Even if the centerfold was RMS. ^_^
Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power multiplied.
MOD PARENT UP!
... same here actually, I'm not glad about it though. :-/
Dear Santa 2004 - Puhleese let me be able to grow a non-patchy beard!
TIA,
Anonymous Coward
Hey Troll, next time use the IP:
http://198.247.175.96/goat/
Hey Troll, next time you should use the
IP!
Zdnet.au mention a bidding round for the new kernel name. Seems it'll land on "Wallaby". Being a little foreign and all, I looked the word up on Google - to see a picture of such an animal. And wouldn't you know... one of the first to turn up was this snoopy fellow.
I'm pretty sure it proves something!
There are many pictures of the dunking and the dinner of the previous night (including the penguin ice sculpture! :))
dreamcatcher.ait.org/lca2004
site is currently fairly slow due to link saturation :P
Man, where's Darl and a tub of carbonite when you need it. :-(
Wish I was there...had to work.
Burma?
My new desktop wallpaper!!! *swoon*
Wow, a lucrative publishing contract! I don't have to be evil anymore. --Meteor
we've seen the picture: linus has guts) So we we know linus has guts - in fact he has several of them. He really needs to go to this place: gym
sure I cant hack a kernel but at least I have a flat stomach.
Linus for Gods sake leave America: come back to Europe where we dont serve food by the trough.
Linus open-sources his body
I did a write up shortly after the dunk for a friend. The dunk was done as a part of a charity auction at the conference dinner for the Cystic Fibrosis Association. Basically what happenned was that the bid was stuck at around AUD$1500. To increase the bid, Linus agreed to be dunked in Speedos if the amount reached $2500. One person at the dinner walked up the podium and announced that he is putting in $50 and asked if anyone else at the dinner would like to see Linus in Speedos. About 35 individuals walked up and put in money for the cause. The finally tally was about $2525. other notorities also got dunked: Andrew Tridgell, Damien Conway, Keith Packard, Bdale Garbee, the LCA2004 organiser Michael Davies, and others I can't remember.
Proof: Turn a glass of water upside down, and see: It pours out!
I'm glad it's summer in Australia, better than the cold weather here.. they'll probably go out and put shrimp on the barby afterwards, man I miss Australia.
What time is it/will be over there? Check with my iPhone app!
Or he's just very very European.
-- If you try to fail and succeed, which have you done? - Uli's moose
I don't understand this. What is the need of all this silliness to contribute to good cause?
If it was genuinely funny, I would not have minded as much. For example - mother theresa would go topless to get contributions...
The big man with an even bigger heart stepped up to the plate for the cause. My bid was $70, but I bet against myself raising it to $80. After that I spent lunch talking to him about his satellite interests, which are pretty cool.
...it's against health regs and the Uni's insurance wouldn't cover it.
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...really stood for Reversed IFF?
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...two days before. "Notaries" may well be accurate. (-:
However, yes, I favour "notables" or "of notoriety".
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...I'd say Linus was pretty competitive. If Linus' real worth was worth $1M and he gave $10,000 this way every year, that's 1% of his worth; presume that William Henry "Trey" Gates III, son and grandson of rich lawyers, is really worth $100G and he has to donate $1G every year to match that proportionally.
If you disallow donations which feed straight back into his own company (e.g. here is a donation for software but it must all be Microsoft; here is a donation for scholarships but the beneficiaries must use our software and mention it positively on every significant public occasion; here is a donation for vaccines, which you must buy from my new drug company... starting to get the picture?) because they're really investments (we won't get into image value yet) Bill's largesse is effectively zero.
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An inordinate proportion of those were geniuses or stunners or in influential positions, too. It's a significant improvement over last year in terms of quantity, and I think the quality has remained high.
We also got to meet a few wives ("Mrs Davies", "Mrs Russell" and so on). Wives-of-geeks tend to be painfully shy, but the few I've met also tend to be good-natured, helpful and friendly. At least one is a stark, stark contrast to her husband in terms of social skills.
Pia Smith is one "notary" <g/d/r> geek who wasn't in the dunking shots because she was (and probably still is) in hospital with a respiratory ailment.
OTOH, you're not far off the money in terms of fitness. Very few Mr Universes in that crowd, including me, although there were also relatively few either extremely obese or extremely scrawny. I don't go about eyeing off other blokes' bodies - that kind of thing generally holds no interest at all for me - but casting back through my memory (and photos), that's the conclusion I've come to.
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Nice people to deal with, too. Hand out training, and follow up properly, the works.
It's pity that the Computer Angels people were all tied down in Perth this year. I understand that many such groups in Oz are yakking about a coordinated national effort as I type.
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Looks like Jabba the Hutt
I was at the dinner where the chance to throw the balls to dunk Linux were being auctioned. The deal was that if the bid went over $2500 Linus would wear speedos. :-)
The bid went even higher very quickly to make sure Rusty *wouldn't** wear a gstring
Bye!
SeqBox
You are so blinded by hero-worship that you somehow overlook the big slab of his "charity" spending which is just self-serving financial masturbation, and account it as altruism as pure as the driven snow.
And look at that! I made my point without a single expletive! It really is possible!
If you expect me to accept Trey as a knight in shining armour, given his atrocious history (e.g. until he was worth well into the billions, his philanthropy - even including masturbatory tax rorts - was proportionally far worse than the average single supporting mother's), you're going to have to show me what those six sexually active billion dollars were actually spent on, and that Trey or one of his companies didn't get most of it back somehow, plus a tax writedown, plus positive press.
You can delete his donations for vaccination from the list for starters, since he owns the company which produces the vaccines involved. I have yet to find a significant donation of his or any of his companies that he failed to take back in some way.
As you look, you'll find him taking back where he has not given, for example having a speaker from his foundation sponsored to an "impartial" biology conference as the closing speaker by other companies so said speaker can extol the virtues of partnering with - surprise - Bill's own private companies for the delivery of "health" services worldwide.
"'A vaccine is the only way to end Aids for all time,' said Gates." - and why? 'Coz he owns a vaccine producer. The Trade-Related Intellectual Property Rights (TRIPS) rules of the WTO prevent Africans from making or buying vaccines at a reasonable price (the Argentinians actually tried to do this some years ago, so Clinton threatened trade sanctions against them if they went ahead), allowing only Trey's companies or those who licence from them to produce an AIDS vaccine at a price set by themselves.
Since it's Trey's companies making and selling the vaccine, Trey's sponsorship of it starts to look a little masturbatory already - "but wait, there's more!" The UN and assorted charities will spend money subsidising such a vaccine, which is only expensive in the first place because Trey made it so. Where were we up to? Oh, yes, we had the UN reimbursing Gates's "donations". "But wait - there's more!"
The subsidies will not completely cover the cost, so the gap must be supported from other funds - in particular, with money from governments which can't even afford to bring clean water to many of their own people. So the end effect of Gates' USD$100M donation for AIDS vaccine research (about a dollar for every African who's died of AIDS so far, and as ay July 2003 that was up to USD$200M) is to support his own companies, at the expense of the UN, western charities, and countries already against the wall financially.
You might want to consider how many Africans have already died because Bill's IP claims have slowed the progress of validating an AIDS vaccine. You might want to consider how many more innocents will die because money which would have provided essential services to their village was redirected to artificially expensive vaccines aimed at the protecting the least responsible segment of their own communities.
Now put yourself in a little African village, where diseases like botulism have killed your brothers, sisters, counsins or maybe your own children or spouse because the water supply - such as it is - is filthy. You have no car, no 'phone, no computer. You're helpless. Then you learn that a project to clean up your water supply was cancelled due to lack of funds, and soon afterwards, vaccines arrive to cure some of the might-makes-right rulers in your area and their friends. How do you feel about that? I'd feel a certain amount of hate for the people that had hurt me yet again...
OK, so we followed down one fork of Bill's philanthropic donations. It turned out to have a negative donation value, and a negative philanthropic value. If you're game, we'll follow down some more forks. If you want references, just ask.
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here it is from another angle:
:( suggestions on how to convert a QuickTime to AVI *with* sound are more than welcome.
DSCN0030-linus-dunking.avi
please be kind and mirror it so the server doesn't die.
no sound though.
...an interest in exercise and real food, so that if they're ever forced to follow suit, they won't feel as embarrassed as if it happened today?
If you look closely, you'll notice that Linus and Tridge in particular, while they aren't exactly Twiggy analogues, do have a reasonable amount of muscle about them. Tridge does a fair bit of walking, and I gather that Linus has a favourite gym.
Actually, if geeks in general did take more interest in their own well-being, it'd be a good deal easier to get proper Vegan-style food at a conf.
I'm a "vegetarian of convenience", that is, I'll aim for what I think I can get, and settle for whatever arrives. Linux Australia's VP and at least one other LCA attendee follow proper Vegan diets, and watching them trying to get food that was sans eggs (think noodles, sauces, mayo) and dairy (mayo, sauces, desserts) was an education. In one place, the cook only spoke Russian, so couldn't even explain what was in many of the components of her dishes, and Stewart simply gave up and went elsewhere rather than stare down a plain salad yet again.
Back at your original insinuation, there seem to be far fewer gays around than most gay organisations assert (it's human nature to overstate your case), and since a vanishingly small proportion (something like 0.1%) of known gays have a genetic predilection for femininity, I think we have to look to social factors for an explanation of a behaviour which is so clearly anti-survival (as in, medically risky in many ways, plus not predisposed toward reproduction).
Gays and geeks have minority status and ostracisation (but not good dress sense) in common, so I'd expect there to be a higher proportion of bent geeks than the proportion of gays in the general population.
In general, a gay geek is not going to stand up at every meeting and say stuff like, "Hi, I'm John and I'm gay" and of course there are blokes who are drama queens and yet 100% ironclad straight in sexual terms, so my figures are going to be very fuzzy (oh, yes, and I'm a bloke, so I'm not as aware of interpersonal relationsips as a typical sheila would be), but I'm guessing that there would have been about half as many bent male geeks there as femmes of all types.
I can't speak for the dunkees, but my attitude is that they could think and feel whatever they liked as I sat there in my Speedos, as long as they don't do anything regrettable about it. And the sight of my goose-pimpled body is hardly likely to drive anyone into paroxysms of desire. (-:
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...I had Ravioli di Ricotta con Tricolore and played some bizarre card game with ever-changing rules. That day was the coolest of the entire conf, but would still have been pretty warm for someone from a temperate climate.
Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
...elephant man?
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I most certainly can. Consequently, I don't appreciate you mischaracterising what I've said, or skipping over many of the important bits.
No, and nowhere did I claim he was. But Bill is using those laws, and he is lobbying in their support, and to have them extended.
No. He is overcharging them for his version of the vaccine, which has not yet been properly trialled. The Argentinians (for example) can manufacture such vaccines and have been able to for a while, but if they dare to try shipping them, the US uses economic pressure based on TRIPS laws to prevent it. Never mind the dying Africans, what about our profit - you insensitive clod?
No. But USD$200M spent on his own <sarcasm>wonder</sarcasm>-vaccines instead of better sanitation and housing will act to reinforce and support the poor local governance instead of undermining it or even merely leaving it alone.
Hundreds, not millions. Some organisations are working to intelligently address these deadly issues, but not many. And some of those organisations are being stopped by the UN because their work doesn't suit the UN's political agenda.
Wrong again. You've just painted yourself into a corner, and this is the only way you see of salvaging any dignity as you leave. By being mean and pointing this out, I'm taking even that away from you, because I'd much rather see you face your blindness and overcome it. Think of it as being a greater kindness, as a father smacks a child so they remember to not run out onto the road and get mutilated by a passing car.
Or more truthfully, you won't have the guts to admit that you have read it (see, you're reading it right now!) and you have no reasonable answer - but your mind's made up, and any inconvenient facts will only confuse, dismay and embarrass you. However, shoving your head into a bush (ostrich-style) does nothing to remove the painful facts, and if you continue to prate on about Bill's glory you'll be living and spreading a lie.
On the gripping hand, if it helps you to sleep better at night, my main intended audience here is the many others who will read our conversation and not comment. Hi!
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... is available here, in MP4 format - should play in most media players, ffmpeg has supported it for ages. Feedback on how the file plays is great, as it's the same format I'm proposing to use for all the LCA talks to go on the DVD we'll be sending out.
The only reason you're seeing it is because it's still in your resolver cache. Without the registrar and corresponding TLD DNS server returning a SOA record for goatse, no names can be resolved for that domain. You demonstrate a lack of understanding of either the situation or the functionality of the DNS.
/etc/hosts ...and you will be able to reach it. (Not that you'd really want to, but...)
If anyone out there is curious what is on the site, all you need to is issue the command:
$ echo "198.247.175.96 goatse.cx" >>
I re-encoded it with mencoder and Rodrigo Gressler was kind enough to put it up on his website:
n coder.avi
http://cscience.org/~ffishman/Linus-dunked-big.me
Enjoy.
Felipe
Looked like a lot of fun. Wish I could have been there.