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Arrest in Caridi FBI Investigation

skillio writes "The FBI arrested one Russell Sprague in Illinois on Thursday in connection with the previously reported Carmine Caridi dvd screener leak investigation. Given the FBI's figure of up to 60 screeners a year provided by Caridi, and Sprague's clearly sophisticated setup, one can't help but wonder if this will prove to be the main, if not sole, source of these dvd screener leaks. Caridi has yet to be charged, but after he's admitted to supplying Sprague with screeners for the last 3-5 years, I highly doubt his innocence will remain unchallenged for very long."

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  1. What's with the cop talk? by Fear+the+Clam · · Score: 4, Funny

    The FBI arrested one Russell Sprague

    Why is it that cops always arrest one of somebody? It's not like raids on human clone factories are that common.

    1. Re:What's with the cop talk? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      If my name was Russell Sprague, I'd be relieved they were only arresting one of them. Headlines announcing mass Sprague purges would frighten and alarm me.

    2. Re:What's with the cop talk? by Aumaden · · Score: 5, Funny

      If they said they were arresting "one CarrotTop" I would be concerned that there might be more than one of him!

    3. Re:What's with the cop talk? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Maybe they have to be back in their caskets by the time the sun comes up?

    4. Re:What's with the cop talk? by sTalking_Goat · · Score: 3, Funny
      Which is why I get all my sleep in the afternoon.

      Lets see em try to raid me...

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    5. Re:What's with the cop talk? by thirdbanE · · Score: 2, Informative

      One of the definitions/uses of one is -- Denoting a person or thing conceived or spoken of indefinitely; a certain.

      Plus it sounds good too.

    6. Re:What's with the cop talk? by nelsonal · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's because most people are sleeping most soundly causing the least impact on surrounding residents and reducing the likelihood of resistance.

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  2. All screeners? by jasonflacid · · Score: 4, Informative

    I doubt that he would be the only person doing screeners. There's probably about 2-5 people per movie, as you'll get different weirdnesses (such as blured out text) in the same movie, depending on the release group.

    1. Re:All screeners? by dtolman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There are only so many screeners sent out by studios - if this guy _was_ sending out as many as they say he did, he probably represented a large portion of all screeners posted to the internet.

    2. Re:All screeners? by BHennessy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The different versions are probably different 'rips' of the cds provided by Sprague, or if he ripped + released them himself, different versions of this rip.

    3. Re:All screeners? by FatalTourist · · Score: 5, Funny
      Quiet you fool! You'll ruin everything!

      Yes, this Caridi guy was the sole source. Guess you can stop looking! Right, everyone?

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    4. Re:All screeners? by pantycrickets · · Score: 4, Informative

      There are only so many screeners sent out by studios - if this guy _was_ sending out as many as they say he did, he probably represented a large portion of all screeners posted to the internet.

      They say this guy released 60 screeners a year. There are a lot more than that a year being uploaded to usenet. So, I'm sure this will only make it so that all distributors of pirated screeners in the future will just blur any identifying marks from the film.

    5. Re:All screeners? by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm sure this will only make it so that all distributors of pirated screeners in the future will just blur any identifying marks from the film.

      It's not that simple. The identifying marks are red herrings. The real identifying marks will be obscured. This is easy to do with modern computing technology. Since they're already making multiple copies, and duplication is the hard part, they can stick assorted different symbols/logos into portions of the movie where they will not be noticed. Even easier; Chop specific scenes down here and there by a second or two. If you're writing the mastering software it should be easy to drop MPEG frames off the end of a clip, alter the header, and create your image for burning without screwing anything up. It would also be fairly trivial to add in assorted sounds which are not found in the movie normally, or time-shift them, by overlaying them onto the audio track later. Studios typically have not done this to date because it is harder than not doing anything, but they will start doing it, because they can't just stop sending out screeners (though screeners will typically be sent to less and less people, I think - maybe we'll start seeing more workprints, which must hurt their bottom line less) but they still want to discourage copying.

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    6. Re:All screeners? by big_O_of_n! · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I had an internship in "the industry" for a few months, and I have a hard time believing one person was responsible for the bulk of leaks. I and my friends were all interns, so we had no reason to have screeners, but we had access to just about any movie in competition for awards. People seem to assume -- and news outlets seem to report -- that screener sharing is rare, but this assumption couldn't be farther from the truth. If the sharing makes its way to interns, it makes its way to everyone.

      There may be "only so many" screeners out there, but sometimes so many is so many!

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  3. Thank you.... by musikit · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Carmine Caridi for saving me thousands of dollars on rental fees, movie tickets, popcorn, late fees, dinner with friends/family and candy for providing the worthless crap that the MPAA puts out to the common man on the internet.

    1. Re:Thank you.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If it's worthless crap, why are you watching it?

    2. Re:Thank you.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If its crap than the easy solution would be dont go to the movies and rent the crap. these guys commited a crime as you do by downloading it. I dont agree with all the over the top pattent and copyright stuff weve seen lately but studios should be able to profit on making a movie. if the studios arent making any money then how do the make new movies?

    3. Re:Thank you.... by Bootsy+Collins · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why are actors paid $50,000,000 for doing a film instead of, say, $50,000 or $200,000? It's just acting. It's not like they're risking their life or health.

      Well, $50M is a bit of an exaggeration -- you're not going to find many (any?) examples of that high a figure -- but some actors do get paid a lot of money, even millions of dollars, to do a film, yes. Why so much? Because that's what the market is. They're paid that much because the studios are willing to pay that much, and the studios are willing to pay that much because the filmgoing public is willing to pay what it pays. That's what our priorities are.

      I think we're at the start of a trend which will end up with people who work in industries where copying is a problem being paid less, and people who actually provide something useful to society, such as teachers, nurses, etc getting paid more.

      That would be nice; but it's hard to imagine. As long as people value entertainment more than they do education, public safety, or public health, entertainment will be where the money goes. And as long as the main contributing factor to the success or failure of a movie continues to be perceived (rightly or wrongly) as its acting lineup or director, directors and acting talent will get big money. However, it's certainly possible that some of that money that would otherwise go to foleys, carpenters, sound editors, costume tailors, etc. (which for a typical movie is comparable to the money than the acting talent earns, simply because there's a lot more crew than actors) will be spent on anti-piracy crap instead, with the result that the foleys/carpenters/sound editors/costume tailors/etc. make less.

    4. Re:Thank you.... by WhodoVoodoo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah! I for one am sick and tired of seeing major Hollywod studios go out of business! Oh, if only people had watched 'Cheaper by the Dozen' In theaters instead of pirating it to realize it was terrible! Why! If only they were able to profit in some way from these movies somehow!

    5. Re:Thank you.... by monique · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They're paid that much because the studios are willing to pay that much, and the studios are willing to pay that much because the filmgoing public is willing to pay what it pays. That's what our priorities are.

      This is kind of misleading. Watching a movie costs less than $10 a person. So yes, our priorities are such that we are occasionally willing to pay somewhere around $5/hour for entertainment. That's not to say that any individual values acting talent in the millions.

      That being said, there may be changes in the wind. My local theater upped its prices to something like $9 for evening shows; $7 for a matinee. SEVEN DOLLARS for a matinee! And for this, I get a lecture from an MPAA lackey, several minutes of commercials, and several minutes of trailers, some of which, I admit, may be interesting.

      It's looking more and more like the right financial choice for movie enthusiasts is to buy a high-quality entertainment system and rent the DVD. Rental is cheaper than a movie ticket, you only have to pay for one DVD no matter how many people are watching, you don't (YMMV) have to deal with trailers and whatnot, and you can pause it when you have to pee. Besides, it enhances non-movie experiences, like console gaming, too.

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    6. Re:Thank you.... by Bootsy+Collins · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is kind of misleading. Watching a movie costs less than $10 a person. So yes, our priorities are such that we are occasionally willing to pay somewhere around $5/hour for entertainment. That's not to say that any individual values acting talent in the millions.

      I don't think it's misleading. The issue isn't that we value acting talent in the millions, but rather that we value it more than just about anything else. We're willing, as you say, to give that $10 to go see a single movie; but we're not willing to give that $10 to education, public safety, or public health . . .even though $10 from each U.S. citizen -- one less movie a year for each of us -- would raise the annual salary of every firefighter in the United States by $10,000. Now there's a career in which people do risk life and health, and get paid poorly for doing so. We could easily change that; we choose not to. Those are our priorities. Pass the popcorn.

      It's looking more and more like the right financial choice for movie enthusiasts is to buy a high-quality entertainment system and rent the DVD. Rental is cheaper than a movie ticket, you only have to pay for one DVD no matter how many people are watching, you don't (YMMV) have to deal with trailers and whatnot, and you can pause it when you have to pee. Besides, it enhances non-movie experiences, like console gaming, too.

      Some films look better on the 70 foot screen. But most of them, I agree, are just as good (if not better) at home.

    7. Re:Thank you.... by lazyl · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, $50M is a bit of an exaggeration -- you're not going to find many (any?) examples of that high a figure

      Actually, if you include profit sharing (for the big name actors) then the numbers go way up. Take for example Tom Cruise, who has a profit sharing clause in his contracts. For Mission Impossible 2 he got a salary of about $25M and his share of the profit was around $75M.

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    8. Re:Thank you.... by mooingyak · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As long as people value entertainment more than they do education, public safety, or public health, entertainment will be where the money goes.

      If I go and see a movie every week, bring my wife, and buy popcorn, I'll spend maybe $25 / week * 52 weeks = $1300. That would be a HEAVY movie-goer.

      A pre-school we're looking at for my daughter, 3 days a week, 1PM - 4PM, costs about $3800.

      One entertainer can reach millions of people at once.
      One teacher can reach maybe 200 kids during a day.

      It's not that we spend more on entertainment. It's that the money gets concentrated to relatively few people.

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    9. Re:Thank you.... by Gilmoure · · Score: 2, Funny

      Another problem with the home theater is that you have to make the popcorn a day in advance and set it out so that it has that nice, stale texture. If you haven't done proper planning, you will miss out on the theater experience. For the drinks, you only have to leave them out for an hour or so, to make them warm and flat tasting.

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  4. Call me crazy... by Txiasaeia · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...but I can't find any mention of DVDs in the article. Wasn't this guy being charged with ripping VHS tapes?

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    1. Re:Call me crazy... by FattMattP · · Score: 3, Informative
      ...but I can't find any mention of DVDs in the article.

      From the article: "The search of Sprague's residence Thursday turned up DVD copies of 11 films...

      According to the FBI, Sprague admitted receiving screeners from Caridi and said that he used the software program Copy Guard Breaker to copy the VHS tapes to DVD and then returned the original VHS tapes and two VHS copies of each to Caridi.

      Sprague said that he'd made as many as six duplicate copies of each DVD and distributed them to family and friends. He supplied copies to another friend in exchange for using a FedEx shipping account, the FBI said."

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    2. Re:Call me crazy... by saderax · · Score: 2, Informative

      From the article:

      An FBI search of Caridi's home resulted in the seizure of 36 original Academy VHS screener tapes and two DVD screeners. Caridi also told the FBI of eight other screeners he had received which were at another location, where agents subsequently picked them up.

      The search of Sprague's residence Thursday turned up DVD copies of 11 films -- ranging from "Samurai," "Calendar" and "Mystic" to "X2: X-Men United" and "Cold Mountain"

      emphasis mine.

    3. Re:Call me crazy... by Txiasaeia · · Score: 4, Informative

      Let me rephrase: no mention of "DVD screeners," because they no longer exist -- the Academy sends out VHS tapes now to combat piracy, for all the good it did them.

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  5. Re:Great. by Have+Blue · · Score: 3, Informative

    If the guy committed a crime, what's wrong with putting him in prison?

  6. Where are they? by stealthyburrito · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, uh, where might these screeners be released on the internet?

    We have a right to examine the evidence, right?

    1. Re:Where are they? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      download bittorrent then go to www.suprnova.com (yes its spelt like that) enjoy!

  7. sole source? by gl4ss · · Score: 4, Insightful

    UNLIKELY.

    If it were I'd kinda except all releases to have comen from the same group as well.

    well, it's hardly likely that it will change anything. they might scapegoat him for all the huge losses of entertainment industry that they've invented with a random number generator though.

    and you know what? sometimes the retail dvd is out in usa before the movie hits the big screen here in Finland. with phasing like that who needs screeners?

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    1. Re:sole source? by Otter · · Score: 2, Informative
      If it were I'd kinda except all releases to have comen from the same group as well.

      When I lived in Los Angeles, I was about as unconnected from the entertainment industry as you can get, being a molecular biologist for a living. (OK, I had an agent. And worked as an extra a couple of times. But everyone in LA has an agent from the mayor to the guy selling oranges on the freeway ramp.)

      Anyway, even I routinely had access to Academy screening videos. Those things were everywhere. I can't imagine there's any shortage of sources for the pirates.

    2. Re:sole source? by Shalda · · Score: 2, Informative

      they might scapegoat him for all the huge losses of entertainment industry

      At the very least, I expect they'll make an example of him which should have a very strong deterrent effect. Lend your screeners to the wrong person, and bam, you're out of the academy and on a lot of informal blacklists.

  8. also covered on cnn.com by mcmonkey · · Score: 4, Funny
    1. Re:also covered on cnn.com by nate1138 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Isn't it great that a FUCKING US ATTORNEY can't even get the infringement/theft thing straight? She should be disbarred for incompetence.

      There's also this choice bit:

      Among the movies being illegally sold off the Internet: "Master and Commander," "Last Samurai," "Matrix Revolutions," "Mystic River," "Gods and Generals," "Mighty Wind," "Matchstick Men," "Something's Gotta Give," "Love Actually," "Thirteen" and "Calendar Girls."

      There is no evidencd he "sold" anything to anybody. Fuck CNN, they have no respectability anymore.

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    2. Re:also covered on cnn.com by BitchAss · · Score: 3, Interesting

      one can't help but wonder if this will prove to be the main, if not sole, source of these dvd screener leaks

      ...and does it mean they'll stop playing those damn anti-piracy commercials before movies?

      "David makes movies"

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    3. Re:also covered on cnn.com by BitchAss · · Score: 4, Funny

      David GOLDSTEIN! I feel better now. I've been racking my brain for the last 1/2 hour to remember his name.

      "David Goldstein makes movies" Like that makes me care more. Does anyone have a copy of that so I can download it and put it in front of the DivXs I download. I do want the full theatre experience.

      Better yet, anyone wanna make a new one with me? I have a few ideas for some...

      "John Smith pirates movies"
      "Yeah - I uh, met my wife on IRC while downloading 'Lord of the Rings'. She was dressed up as Arwin when we met. I knew it was love then."

      Y'know - it could be like those Apple switch ads.

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    4. Re:also covered on cnn.com by MacDork · · Score: 2, Informative

      Fuck CNN, they have no respectability anymore.

      I lost all respect for CNN when they actually proposed it may be possible to clone Elvis from a lock of his hair. That would be impossible because there is nothing but mitochondrial DNA in hair. The slightest bit of fact checking would have told them this much. Yet they ran it as a story and in the text gutter along the bottom of their newscast as a genuine possibility.

      In regard to the current topic, perhaps it was someone's personal pipe dream to clone him and reset the already illegitimately long copyright clock on his works. If copyright law had the same time limitations put in place by the 1790 Copyright Act, then a) all of Elvis' work would be public domain by now, and b) I would have some sympathy for the MPAA on this issue. As it stands though, neither of the above is true.

  9. Don't burn him by blackmonday · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If he was just sending the guy movies because he'd watched them and was done with them, the only laws he broke were of the Academy, not criminal laws. As it says in the first article, if he didn't know the movies were being copied, he's criminally innocent.

    I can't really believe that Caridi really knew that his screeners were being uploaded to the Internet. He's an older guy, I wonder if he's even familiar with the Internet, much less file-sharing. Anyways, if they were guilty wouldn't he let this other guy know, so he could get rid of the evidence before the feds showed up?

    It's pretty safe to say he won't be voting for the Academy Awards anymore.

    1. Re:Don't burn him by Mr.+Darl+McBride · · Score: 2, Informative

      Read the article. Caridi knew they were being copied -- indeed, he was having the guy mail back VHS copies.

  10. At long last ... by burgburgburg · · Score: 2, Funny

    the national nightmare is over. Finally, the screeners can roam the wilderness, free and unripped.

  11. seinfeld by hashmap · · Score: 2, Funny
    Reminds me of the Seinfled episode when Jerry (and then George) became bootleggers.

    George: I'm a bootlegger.
    Anna: You're a what?
    George: I'm bootleggin' a movie, baby!
    Anna: Isn't that illegal?
    George: I can do hard time for this one. And community service!

    Jerry: I don't care about Brody. I was up on 96th Street today, there was a kid couldn't have been more than ten years old. He was asking a street vendor if he had any other bootlegs as good as Death Blow. That's who I care about. The little kid who needs bootlegs, because his parent or guardian won't let him see the excessive violence and strong sexual content you and I take for granted.

  12. Caridi won't get time by funpaul · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Caridi has yet to be charged, but after he's admitted to supplying Sprague with screeners for the last 3-5 years, I highly doubt his innocence will remain unchallenged for very long."

    I don't know, seems to me that Caridi flipped and gave the cops the man they really wanted. I'll bet you they'll be some fines, community service, etc., but I doubt he's going to prison. Sprague is going to be sent up for a long time though.

    What did Caridi get out of the arrangement? He denies receiving money, and says he just thought Sprague was a film buff. I wonder if all Caridi ever got from Sprague was praise and adoration: "I've always *loved* your work."

  13. So is an apology coming from the industry? by Zed2K · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Since many people have been telling the movie industry for years that it is mainly its own people who distribute good copies of movies on the internet and they have constantly denied it. Are they now going to apologize?

  14. Re:Great. by Dot.Com.CEO · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Could you please direct me to the article of the constitution that grants immunity to 70 year old criminals? Thank you.

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  15. I Feel Safer Already by MrBlackBand · · Score: 5, Funny
    Thank God they arrested this guy. Now I can finally sleep at night.

    FBI Agent 1: Hey, I've got some evidence here that a massive terrorist attack is going to take place at...

    FBI Agent 2: Not now! We've got to stop those damn dirty stinkin' hippie copyright infringers! To the FBImobile!

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  16. They will both serve lengthy prision terms by geomon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    if convicted of the charges that they suggest are involved.

    Sprague (charged):
    1) criminal copyright infringement, and
    2) illegal interception of a satellite signal

    Caridi (may be charged):
    1) contributory copyright infringement

    While I'm no fan of breaking copyright law (or any law for that matter), what pisses me off is that these two will be sentenced to terms longer than Bill Janklow (R,SD). That fucker will get 100 days for killing someone AND his record will be expunged.

    No wonder people have no faith in the judicial system.

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    1. Re:They will both serve lengthy prision terms by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Funny

      The article says Janklow blamed it on being a diabetic and not having eaten in 11 hours. That is no excuse, and should not even be mentioned in court, except as a preface to the statement "but since I knew I was a diabetic, and that would affect my driving, you should throw me in the slammer for being a fucking asshole."

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  17. Hey! FBI! by Bob+Cat+-+NYMPHS · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can you drop the fucking make-believe-land movie crap and go after those real-life terrorists instead?

    And see if you can get back my VCR and tape collection from the guy who burglarized my house.

  18. Well this is certainly odd... by emtboy9 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I thought it was 14 year old girls, 60 year old grandmothers, and college students who were responsible for all teh piracy... It cant possibly be one of the Acadamy members!!

    Makes ya wonder tho, after all the commercials geared to make the American public feel guilt for pirating movies, how will the MPAA and such be taken seriously now that its been pretty much proven that one of their own is responsible for HUNDREDS of movie screeners getting out into the wild?

    That would be like one of the RIAA people being found trading CDs on P2P networks in his off hours...

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    1. Re:Well this is certainly odd... by Contact · · Score: 3, Insightful
      That would be like one of the RIAA people being found trading CDs on P2P networks in his off hours...

      Actually, some record industry guys were merrily quoting from an independent report a few months back, and when the author of the report asked where they'd read it (as not many copies had been purchased), they went a bit red and admitted they'd been emailing copies of it to each other.

      If they don't respect copyrights themselves, they really ought to realise why the general public don't seem to do so either.

  19. it was a nice run- while it lasted by way2trivial · · Score: 2, Insightful
    now the only d/l available will be screenED..
    I often wonder, the commodization of computers made the pricepoint go down.. who pays 3k for a computer any more? no one..
    ever watch the original 'blob'? one great scene, where the kids are pulled out of the movie house by the local law enforcement.. they complain "ok sherrif, you've got out eighty cents"-- movies were a dime.. and until my adulthood, so were phone calls.. think about it.. movies and payphone calls were the same price at one point in time. and payphones held level for DECADES

    could not the widespread of free movies have forced the studios to re-normalize (read, de-gouge) to a point where the value was obvious?
    instead of selling popcorn/candy/soda/food at a huge markup, and forbidding bringing it in from outside.. charge enough of a price that precludes anyone from wanting to bring it in from outside.
    instead of selling 10-20 bags at 1$ profit, sell 100-200 bags at 20 cents profit

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  20. The accused. by codework · · Score: 5, Informative

    The accused biog here

  21. So it's bad for BIG BIZ to steal, only little guy by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 3, Flamebait
    I highly doubt his innocence will remain unchallenged for very long.

    But average /.ers still think its hunky dory to go out to the net and download it. Everybody wants something for free, doesn't matter what it is.

    We can all go on and on about the evils of big business, how all they want to do is rip us off. But most people also think that the rules that apply to us "little people" such as honesty and integrity should apply to Big Biz as well, no double standards. So why do most here still think it's OK to steal music and movies?

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  22. Re:Great. by Kierthos · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Nothing, per se, but you notice how much bad press the RIAA got for suing a little girl, right? Besides, they're probably much happier to find the leak (Caridi), and have the "mad copier" (Sprague) in custody.

    Sprague will, no doubt, see some jail time, but he's just as likely to plea bargain his time down if he can provide the Feds and the MPAA with any more names or information.

    Caridi, however... let's see, career ruined, good name ruined... sure, they could throw him in jail, but if he sticks to his story, he's likely to get off with little time or punishment other then being ostracized by the major players in Hollywood.

    Kierthos

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  23. And also thank you... by hoggoth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > Thank you ... for saving me ... for providing the worthless crap that the MPAA puts out

    Thank you to all the people I've mugged in alleys over the years for saving me thousands of dollars on cars, motorcycles, clothes, drugs, jewelry, and dinner with friends/family for providing the worthless crap that our materialistic society demands we consume.

    I am a victim of a society gone rotten!

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    1. Re:And also thank you... by Darth23 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Thank you RIAA and the MPAA for confusing the difference between sharing and stealing. Remind me to call the cops on all the people who have books, tapes and magazines of mine. Remind me to call the FBI on the Public Library as well.

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  24. Arresting the Criminals by TheDawgLives · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's nice to see the FBI arresting the person actually breaking the law, unlike the RIAA which suied napster and other P2P services for "providing a conduit to break the law." If the FBI thought like the RIAA, they would destroy all roads in the US, because they facilitate people breaking the speed limit.

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  25. FBI has no business by nurb432 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This should be a civil manner, not something that has been escalated to a federal criminal issue. ( including their funding via taxes )

    Yes I realize that recent laws have allowed this, but that doest make it right.

    At this point the feds can go after anything they want, for any reason. regardless of how severe it isnt.

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    1. Re:FBI has no business by hackstraw · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This should be a civil manner, not something that has been escalated to a federal criminal issue. ( including their funding via taxes )

      You can check out the FBI's updated priorities here. I too don't see how the FBI got mixed up with movies. Maybe its just advertising, because the most I hear/see from the FBI on a regular basis is at the beginning of DVDs where the FBI warns me to be good with the content of the disc.

      But hey, if the FBI is this aggressive for movie copyright violators, then terrorists, organized crime, and spys must so scared that they will stop doing their illegal activities any time now.

  26. Will this mark a change? by hugzz · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Just to be noted from the article:
    However, because this year the screeners carried invisible markings for the first time, the studios were able to identify the Academy member for whom they had been intended.

    If everyone who gets a copy of movies knows that they're traceable, wont this seriously cut back the amount of people willing to get screeners onto the internet? I know if I was given screeners and occaisionally leaked them, i'd stop right now (at least until I found out what these "invsible markings" were, and how to remove them)

    1. Re:Will this mark a change? by Grey_14 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Any decent group distributing these movies, have known about, and removed these marks for years now, This is just a slightly new idea in that manner of copy protection, It'll be broken. They just missed it this first time (oops),

      As I recall, Normally, they get two seperate copy's of a movie, and compare them, to find out whats different, then remove it from both copys.

      or something, Y'know.

    2. Re:Will this mark a change? by ivan256 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What if the protection is something that is in every copy but one?

    3. Re:Will this mark a change? by LnxAddct · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Then they can't track it to one specific person. They'd have to say something like "One of you 3,000 screeners leaked our film and we want answers!" rather then "Yo dumbass, our invisible mark says that this film on the internet was yours. Give us your freedom now!"
      Regards,
      Steve

    4. Re:Will this mark a change? by ivan256 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No, they'd be able to determine the two films that were diffed with each other because the two identifiers that were missing would be traceable. If the identifiers run the entire length of the film in the overscan, or appear repeatedly, it could be shown that it was highly unlikely that exactly the right frames were dropped by mere coincidence.

  27. Good thing criminals are idiots by strictnein · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why wouldn't this guy have disposed of, or at least hidden away in some storage facility (pay with cash), all of his equipment?
    If I'm doing something like he was and my "supplier" gets busted, everything I have is going bye bye. You still might get busted, but they're going to have a hell of a lot harder time prosecuting you if they don't have that stuff as evidence.

    1. Re:Good thing criminals are idiots by ChicagoBiker · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Did you happen to catch the ages of all these people involved (50-60 years old)? There's a whole generation of folks out there who don't really feel this is all that much of a "crime".

      Add to that, there are some really, really stupid people out there (especially in that area of Chicago) who think that they are somehow invisible to the law, that "everyone is doing it", that it's "ok", and "some big corporation or the freakin' FBI ain't comin' after ME, I'm a nobody, I'm just makin' copies for my buddies from the Moose Lodge. We're on the inside track, we've got an important uncle in Hollywood. Billy Bob is the president of the Moose cause he gets all those cool movies first. And hey, if you want, you get in good with him, he'll give you one of those special TV boxes he makes that gets ya HBO for free. Free man! He's so smart"

      With the national news attention this is getting right now, there are a lot of suburban hicks in Chicago today disposing of VHS tapes, burned DVD's and Satellite black boxes. Too bad garbage pickup in most communities is Thursday or Friday (this morning), so I guess you'll see them by the side of the road. And someone's 16 year old son who's dad is about three degrees of separation away from the guy they arrested is having his computer and internet connection removed from his bedroom this afternoon and is grounded for life.

  28. Re:Great. by pclminion · · Score: 2, Insightful
    If the guy committed a crime, what's wrong with putting him in prison?

    So it's not okay for me to disagree with a law, or the harshness of the punishment for it?

    Sorry, I thought I was supposed to never question anything.

  29. Re:Stickler for the law by Graemee · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Even If you were not tech savy and you saw a AVR board or other electronic device in a sat reciever, you'd know it was not a regular card. I believe they can expand their search if evidence of another crime is obvious. Most satellite hacks are pretty obvious, besides this was a previous investigation and they probably ran him the FBI DB and his ass was flagged and they looked.

  30. How is "interception" illegal? by gkuz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So I actually RTFA, and I'm wondering about the legal basis for the "illegal interception of satellite signals" part. I can see where copyright infringement is illegal, and I can see where duplicating the SatTV smart cards is illegal, but what, exactly, is "illegal interception"? If they beam RF into my home, can't I receive it and -- purely for experimental purposes, say -- try to do something with it? The RF spectrum is licensed for transmitting on, but I thought I had a legal right to receive whatever I wanted. Now whether I can decrypt the data I receive is another question entirely.

    1. Re:How is "interception" illegal? by general_re · · Score: 2, Insightful
      If they beam RF into my home, can't I receive it and -- purely for experimental purposes, say -- try to do something with it?

      No. And if your neighbors might be wondering the same thing, I suggest you don't buy a cordless phone. Or a cell phone.

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      ABSURDITY, n.: A statement or belief manifestly inconsistent with one's own opinion.
  31. Mysterious Uploading by barryfandango · · Score: 4, Funny

    "The FBI affidavit does not explain how the films were uploaded to the Internet."

    The FBI understands how the screeners were distributed and then illegally copied using elaborate equipment. As for how that digital information made it on to the interweb, they are still researching the possibilities. Their suspicions include the use of some kind of Computing Machine.

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    In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane. -Oscar Wilde
  32. Double Standards by thenextpresident · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am probably going to be mod'ed as flamer, but still. I see a lot of double standards here (yeah, it's /., I know). These people broke the law. They should be punished.

    People are complaining about wording in the article or from quotes (people suggesting they "stole" something). Does it really matter? Does the description of the act to a news reporter change the crime? If I describe a murderer's act as "He hurt the victims...", does that change the fact that the murderer committed the crime?

    And for everyone complaining about how the big bad MPAA is going after people for these "littie" crimes. Remember, they are using the same laws that protect the Linux Kernel. When the community goes after a company that doesn't provide the source code they use, and don't follow the GPL, it's basically the same damn thing. We have rights they agreed to, and we expect them to act accordingly.

    I mean, seriously, by suggesting that the MPAA shouldn't be going after these guys is tantamount to suggesting that the laws should be different for big companies and small companies.

    Regardless of the current state of the laws in the country, that's just wrong. If these guys did commit crimes, nuff said. They should be punished.

    Saying that they shouldn't be punished for committing a crime is just wrong.

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    Jason Lotito
    1. Re:Double Standards by forand · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think that there is an undertone that you might be missing: many here are worried about the "current state of the laws in the country." As a poster aboved mentioned this type of "crime" was a civil matter and used to be handled by civil courts. Now, however, federal, state, and local governments are doing the grunt work and paying to enforce these new laws.

      Also I don't think you are correct in your assertion that the same laws are protecting the linux kernel, the laws being used here are criminal laws that are very specificly targeted a distribution of content, in various ways.

  33. Re: But by Quantum-Sci · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What do you call a crime? Corporate CEOs and their radical self-interest, now control our legislative system, which is furiously dismantling our judicial system. (war powers act, PATRIOT, etc) Gen Tommy Franks actually said, that if there's another major terrorist attack, the Constitution may have to be suspended! WTF? We've had much worse crises, and haven't had to suspend the Constitution.

    Where do you stand on (the current) abridging, and (the proposed)suspending the United States Constitution?!

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  34. Re:So it's bad for BIG BIZ to steal, only little g by real_smiff · · Score: 3, Interesting
    We don't [think it's OK to steal music and movies]. We think it's ok to copy them not for profit and then, if it's good, buy a ticket or dvd & recommend others do the same.

    Things you shouldn't do (again i'm speaking under some geek "we" umbrella):

    1. Sell copies
    2. Steal media
    3. Have to pay for entertainment without knowing if it's going to be entertaining, when you don't have the chance of a refund - ? Otherwise the studios could, you know, produce bad movies and still make money from them...

    oh, wait...

    I'm very much of the belief that good movies are worth watching more than once, BTW.

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  35. It's his birthday! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Happy 70th Birthday, Carmine! Our agents will be there shortly with your birthday present.
    - Love, FBI.

  36. Re:"Copy Guard Breaker"? by emilng · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm guessing they didn't want to release the actual name of the program he used for fear that other people might start using it after they find it on Google.

  37. That's why by r_j_prahad · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And now we know why Hollywood's been so focused on creating perfect CGI characters. It gets rid of all that overhead you just listed. Save a few million here, a few million there, pretty soon you've financed one hell of a render farm.

  38. Re:So it's bad for BIG BIZ to steal, only little g by teamhasnoi · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I love responding to these! For example: The RIAA was sued for price fixing.

    The settlement dictates that if you bought one CD, cassete, or album from a member of the RIAA between January 1, 1995, through December 22, 2000, you are entitled to 20 bucks. Max.

    If you bought 300 CDs, you would get 20 bucks. Max.

    If you bought a CD every day for those five years - 20 dollars. Max.

    Please note, the RIAA admits to no wrongdoing. If the total to each claimant is less than 5 dollars, it all goes to charity. (And becomes a tax write off?)

    You're right! I don't want 'double standards'. If I do something wrong, like infringe copyright - I want to settle for a fraction of the money a make each year, and admit no wrongdoing.

    Just like the 'Big Biz'.

    Why do you think it's so hard to justify? With the number of entities trying to screw me over on a daily basis, then 'admitting no wrongdoing' (catchphrase of the 21 century), I have a hard time caring about anything that 'hurts' big business.

  39. Re:contradiction by Gr33nNight · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Made in '03. Hero (with Jet Li) was made in 2002, but will be released in '04. So, its going to be considered an '04 movie in Hollywood.

  40. He should just kill someone by panic911 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I recall hearing about a congressman who is spending 100 days in jail for killing a biker when he hit him wrecklessly with his car. What a wonderful justice system we have in the US, you can kill a man and go to jail for 100 days or you can make copies of a digital video and distribute them and spend the next 15 years in jail. It's a movie, it's not worth ruining peoples lives over.

    I also like how the MPAA (and RIAA, for that matter) determines their statistics for stolen movies/songs. If you have a movie on your computer, thats money that the MPAA lost. But in reality, most likely you would never spend a penny on that movie anyway.

    Stupid MPAA

  41. summary of charges by LookSharp · · Score: 4, Interesting

    According to the FBI, Sprague admitted receiving screeners from Caridi and said that he used the software program Copy Guard Breaker to copy the VHS tapes to DVD and then returned the original VHS tapes and two VHS copies of each to Caridi.

    Sprague said that he'd made as many as six duplicate copies of each DVD and distributed them to family and friends. He supplied copies to another friend in exchange for using a FedEx shipping account, the FBI said.

    The FBI affidavit does not explain how the films were uploaded to the Internet.


    So they found the "source," and it was really Caridi, not Sprague. Caridi was getting "keeper" copies of all of the movies, so who cares that Sprague was making the dupes? Sprague was just the guy that had the equipment and expertise to do it, with a few buddies on the side. He didn't seem to have financial motive. One of his "friends" was kind enough to rip and upload his backroom work for him. Sprague's a hacker but now he faces three years for someone else uploading his hack.

    Sprague's a pirate, no question. What he did was wrong. But three years of Federal-Pound-Me-In-The-Ass-Prison for copying movies? (It's probably be low security, but still...) Caridi is the violator and should be held liable for the movie piracy, especially after the agreement he signed.

    Separately, DirecTV filed a civil lawsuit against Sprague in May over his alleged theft of its satellite signal. In 2002, Sprague had been named, along with hundreds of other suspects, in a massive crackdown on equipment that can be used to reprogram satellite television access cards, a method by which pirates illegally get programming for free. Paying customers are issued personally encoded cards with their subscription.

    Sprague stole satellite TV and made cards for others to do it also... yes the whole debate about "you can't steal signals that reach everyone" will rage on, but there's no question they were defrauding DirecTV. On the other hand, that carries a potential five year prison term, is that appropriate for a first offense?

  42. federal pound me in the ass prison by Indy1 · · Score: 2, Informative

    from what my brother tells me (he is a cop), federal prison is fairly cushy (unless its a ultra max), where as state lockup can be hellish, espcially if your in one of the rather poor southern states like Louisana (sp?) or Texas.

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  43. Re:This should be insightful. by j-turkey · · Score: 2, Interesting
    too bad piracy statistics only state how many people downloaded it. not how many people actually watched it.

    ...and when they use those figures to demonstrate lost sales, they fail to calculate how many of those downloaders were actually lost customers. Just because it's worth stealing (click, click), doesn't mean that it's worth buying.

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    -Turkey

  44. Maybe the sole source for one group by Rufus211 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I highly doubt that he is the "sole source" for all DVD screeners. It simply wouldn't make sense considering how many groups there are out there releasing them in competition with each other and with different versions. If there was one source there would be one group always getting the first release for every movie, which just isn't the case. My best guess was that he was OBUS's source. They're the only group that released all of the movies listed in the article and while they are a major group, they're far from the largest or most well known.

  45. Re:Great. by k98sven · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You do not put people in prisons to protect society, nor to punish them. It is a common misconception, however it is wrong.

    You don't spend a word on explaining HOW it is wrong, or what the correct reasons are?

    That makes no sense. This is a democracy, the 'common' perception of why the government does things IS the reason why the government does things.

  46. The movies mentioned in the article by mkro · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A quick search on nforce.nl at least reveals what release group ended up with the movies:

    Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World *SCREENER* - OBUS
    The Last Samurai (2003) *SCREENER* - OBUS
    Mystic River (2003) *SCREENER* - OBUS
    Calendar Girls (2003) *LIMITED* *SCREENER* - OBUS
    Thirteen (2003) *LIMITED* *SCREENER* - OBUS

    Check the nfo of Thirteen for a nice description of how they recruit people.

    "Do you have connections within the academy network and can you obtain academy screeners/dvd screeners during oscar season. then contact us asap."

    Oh, and if any feds are reading this: Even though Cokine is the only "name" of an actual person in the nfo, it does not mean he is affiliated with the group. He is just another starving ascii artist, taking requests over IRC.

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    I shall go and tell the indestructible man that someone plans to murder him.
    1. Re:The movies mentioned in the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      Check the nfo of Thirteen for a nice description of how they recruit people.
      OK, so I checked the .nfo:

      "At the edge of adolescence, Tracy is a smart straight-A student--if not a little naive. When she befriends Evie, the most popular and beautiful girl in school, Evie leads Tracy down a path of sex..."

      Yet you're busy reading the RECRUITING APPLICATION?!?
  47. blanking lines data? Re:All screeners? by swschrad · · Score: 4, Informative

    it is moderately well known that data above and beyond SMTPE timecode is frequently embedded in lines 18 through, I think it is 27, in your average NTSC video frame. if you have an older TV with horizontal hold controls, roll the picture down a little and watch the black line dance above the picture.

    this is, among other things, how Panasonic VCRs can automatically set their clocks when you switch them to the local PBS channel.

    all you have to do is put a dupe serial number in that retrace bar's timespace, between the horizontal sync pulses, and you've tagged the tape with a unique number.

    it's a little harder to blur these out, because you have to replace the information or you break picture sync, putting an ugly hook in the top of the picture.

    ain't worth my time to chase it further, but bet on the serials being there... and if MPAA is truly paranoid and in league with the shadows, the name of the intended recipient of the screener. if they use some sort of argument like, "it takes a month to cut these tape copies," bet big on it.

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  48. I am Russell Sprague, not this Russell Sprague by Kingfox · · Score: 3, Funny

    My name is Russell Sprague, and I have been frightened and alarmed.

    I've had this /. article emailed a few times to me, had my boss's boss taunting me since the moment he walked in the door... Today's not a good day to be a Russell Sprague.

    1. Re:I am Russell Sprague, not this Russell Sprague by rjh · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You think you have it bad?

      My name is Robert Hansen. I was born in Iowa, not far away from a city called Estherville.

      Know who the other famous Robert Hansen from Estherville, Iowa is?

      AN ALASKAN SERIAL KILLER WHO MURDERED TWENTY-ODD HOOKERS.

      I discovered this while dating an Alaskan. You ever seen the Seinfeld episode where Elaine is dating a guy named David Berkowitz? You ever sat there on the couch with your Alaskan girlfriend, watched this episode, and felt enormous sympathy pangs for both Elaine and David?

      And let's not even get into Robert Hanssen, the FBI agent turned traitor...

  49. "For Your Consideration" by ronfar · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Hmm, this reminds me of the time that some of my friends got a copy of The Two Towers sent to them from their homeland (Thailand). It was on VCD, and dubbed into Thai. It was interesting for me to listen to, but it was hard to pay attention because I know like 4 words of Thai. I couldn't tell if the voice acting was competent or not, I tried to pay particular attention to Gollum.

    Well, anyway, this VCD had the telltale sign of being a screener, every now and then on the bottom it would flash "For Your Consideration."

    Well, this got my mind going, someone had actually hired voice actors to dub a pirate VCD. Will wonders never cease.

    Incidentally, before my friends are condemned for being wicked and evil, I should point out that I had bought a used copy of The Two Towers on DVD that I would gladly have lent them, they just wanted to watch it translated into Thai.

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