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I, Robot Trailer Available

thehomeland writes "A new 'I, Robot' movie is coming out based on the Isaac Asimov book series, starring Will Smith. I saw a teaser at the theatre back at the LOTR:ROTK showing, but it looked so much like a commercial I didn't even realize it was a trailer until I saw a logo that said '3 Laws Safe'. Now there's a regular trailer as well as a nice featurette for better details."

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  1. War of the worlds, take 2 by Space+cowboy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When people first heard the WotW broadcast, they thought it was a real Martian invasion. There was widespread panic (mainly I think because everyone trusted what they heard on the radio, thankfully we're all far more cynical now), probably because of stunts like that, but a lot can be put down to marketing spin as well I suppose.

    It's interesting that they've chosen to take the same sort of approach on the website for "I Robot" though - they've really tried to make it look as though a personal robot (NS-5) exists and will be used for the film... Perhaps it ought to drive a car around if so...

    I'd really like to know what the search-count is on google for 'NS-5' or 'Android Mechanics' now that this has hit Slashdot :-)) Anyone know of a way to query google for that sort of thing ?

    Simon

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    1. Re:War of the worlds, take 2 by grasshoppa · · Score: 4, Insightful

      thankfully we're all far more cynical now

      *cough*Blair Witch Project*cough*

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    2. Re:War of the worlds, take 2 by AEton · · Score: 2, Informative

      If it's an especially popular film, it might show up on the weekly/monthly Google Zeitgeist. An aggressive marketing campaign, even targetted at people who use Google, probably wouldn't stand much of a chance, though; archived data shows that people's interests are rather pop-culturey (cf. Sex and the City near its final episode) or holiday-based ("love poems" in week ending Feb. 16).

      Is that the answer you were looking for?

      (And no, on a personal note, I don't think people will buy it at all. There's now a whole genre of sites that look real and act real but are really stupid movie promotions. (not that I can find any of them now) Also, Will Smith is not quite so convincing as Orson Welles.

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    3. Re:War of the worlds, take 2 by Smidge204 · · Score: 4, Funny

      (mainly I think because everyone trusted what they heard on the radio, thankfully we're all far more cynical now)

      Yeah, now they only trust anything they see on television!

      You might wanna try the Google Zeitgeist for that search count, though It's not very "live". Keep an eye on it!
      =Smidge=

    4. Re:War of the worlds, take 2 by Lars+T. · · Score: 4, Informative
      When people first heard the WotW broadcast, they thought it was a real Martian invasion. There was widespread panic (mainly I think because everyone trusted what they heard on the radio, thankfully we're all far more cynical now), probably because of stunts like that, but a lot can be put down to marketing spin as well I suppose.

      Actually, most of the panic was just marketing spin.

      But just how much panic was there really? Reports of suicides and heart attacks proved unfounded, and reappraisals of other "evidence" of the panic show it to have been much less than many have perceived it over the last sixty-two years. Media hype seems to be the real monster here, that and the age old American love for "urban legends."

      Even the evidence of the 40% increase in telephone calls to Law Enforcement agencies and the local media in New Jersey that night fails to differentiate the types of calls in percentages. Some people simply wanted to know where they could donate blood, some to know where to find casualty lists, some realized the show was a dramatization but were furious that such a realistic production was allowed on the air, and still others sought to congratulate CBS on such a fantastic Halloween program.

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    5. Re:War of the worlds, take 2 by csguy314 · · Score: 5, Funny

      **hack**hack**cough** Weapons of Mass Destruction **cough**sputter**

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    6. Re:War of the worlds, take 2 by Jack+Zombie · · Score: 2, Funny

      thankfully we're all far more cynical now

      *cough*Blair/Bush Project*cough*

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    7. Re:War of the worlds, take 2 by dasmegabyte · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wtf are you talking about?

      Orson Welles is old and busted.

      Will Smith's the new hotness!

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    8. Re:War of the worlds, take 2 by M.+Baranczak · · Score: 5, Funny

      *cough*Moon landings*cough*

    9. Re:War of the worlds, take 2 by corian · · Score: 2, Funny

      *cough*Blair Witch Project*cough* ...along with the Navidson Record.

    10. Re:War of the worlds, take 2 by enomar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      *cough*cough*cough Anyone that doesn't lie their asses off while in office *cough*cough*cough

      get a clue...

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  2. This brings back memories! by FyRE666 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I remember playing this game bak in '84. From the trailer it seems that the "Fresh prince of Belaire" will be playing the part of the little guy jumping around in a crudly rendered, polygon filled world, shooting pixels at a massive eye! Fun for all the family!!

  3. Soundtrack by iminplaya · · Score: 4, Interesting

    by Allen Parsons Project?

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  4. Wil Weaton by nocomment · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Anyone know if Wil Weaton got the part?

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    1. Re:Wil Weaton by slugo3 · · Score: 2, Informative

      http://imdb.com/title/tt0343818/

      doesn't look like it

    2. Re:Wil Weaton by Trestran · · Score: 4, Informative
      He didn't, altleast not acording to his blog:
      I just found out that the director for I, Robot "didn't respond to any" of the tapes he saw, including mine.
    3. Re:Wil Weaton by Zak3056 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Anyone know if Wil Weaton got the part?

      Judging by his page on imdb I'd say no...

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  5. The bastards! by Richard+Jones · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They made a friggin' Will Smith Action Movie.

    Why do they even bother buying the rights to something they couldn't really care less about, artistically?

    1. Re:The bastards! by code_echelon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Why do they even bother buying the rights to something they couldn't really care less about, artistically?"

      Possibly, the huge amounts of publicity, the fact that it gets people talking about the product and whether it is good or not a large portion of people will go see it based on the name and their connection to the book. Furthermore, the majority of the executives that are making the important decisions like this don't care about the film artistically, they are just their to ensure profits.

  6. MiB3 by MauMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Feels more like MiB3 than the book I read. Looks like it could be good but at the moment I wish that they would not call it I Robot...

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    1. Re:MiB3 by kabrakan · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think this title is perfectly suited to the plot. To denote one's self as 'I' is implying that one has a consciousness, as the robots in this movie have been developed to have. This is, of course, dependent on your own conception of consciousness.

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    2. Re:MiB3 by Drooling+Iguana · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'll bet Eando Binder was saying the same thing when Asimov stole that title from him.

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  7. No mention of Isaac Asimov by elvesRgay · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I just watched the featurette, the trailed and looked through the web site. While the 3 laws of robotics are mentioned plenty of times and of course the movie is named after an Asimov story nowhere do they give credit to Isaac Asimov. The man may be dead but I'm dissappointed for him.

    1. Re:No mention of Isaac Asimov by zakezuke · · Score: 2, Informative

      I forget which book it was that asimov said the three laws of robotics were to be released into public domain, or rather anyone can use so long as a credit is sited. I know I'm probally one of the few people who actually has read any of his introductions. But near as I'm aware this is the only restriction he's placed on quoting his rules of robotics.

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    2. Re:No mention of Isaac Asimov by anagama · · Score: 4, Insightful


      It's been a while since I read Asimov, but after watching the preview, it seems obvious that this will be typical Hollywood "sci-fear" rather than "sci-fi". At the end of the trailer, there is a comment by the actor that essentially says the point of the movie is uncovering the "deep dark secret truth" or something like that at US Robotics (what might that be, people don't like modems?). My Guess, this will be yet another Hollywood flick about how scary technology can be. The irony is of course, that in Asimov's world, on Earth robots were rejected as a frightening technology (safety/economic fears). I expect this movie will be a dissapointing abuse of Asimov's legacy.

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    3. Re:No mention of Isaac Asimov by bishbah · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm surprised that no one's cheering about the choice of director -- Alex Proyas, the same guy that made Dark City and The Crow. Surely he's got enough sci-fi cred to pull this off.

      Asimov wrote multiple books and stories based on the Three Laws. Hell, he even worked them into the Foundation series. But the fact that there's a Dr. Susan Calvin character implies that the movie follows Asimov's stories at least a little.

    4. Re:No mention of Isaac Asimov by venicebeach · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sure there is. The following is from "synopsis" at www.irobotmovie.com:

      Will Smith stars in this action thriller suggested by the classic short story collection by Isaac Asimov, and brought to the big screen by dynamic and visionary director Alex Proyas ("Dark City," "The Crow"). In the year 2035, robots are an everyday household item, and everyone trusts them, except one, slightly paranoid detective (Smith) investigating what he alone believes is a crime perpetrated by a robot. The case leads him to discover a far more frightening threat to the human race. "I, ROBOT" uses a spectacular, state-of-the-art visual effects technique to bring a world of robots to life.

    5. Re:No mention of Isaac Asimov by cgenman · · Score: 3, Informative

      In his older books, Asimov said that the three laws of robotics could be implied or used as a plot point in other people's books, but never delineated. Many books did in fact use the laws of robotics without explaining them or citing Asimov. I don't know if he changed that stance later on in his life... I'm only about 1/2 way through reading all 500 of his books.

    6. Re:No mention of Isaac Asimov by Gumshoe · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Main difference between the book and the movie: Asimov didn't have niggers in his books.


      I've read every Asimov SF book and as far as I can tell there are no white folks either. In case you missed my point, the humans in his books can be of any race you wish them to be. That's the beauty of the written word; so much can be said without expliticly stating it.

      You seem to assume that no mention of race naturally means that all the protaganists are white. This highlights a very disturbing form of bigotry. I hope that the hood isn't so tight that you can't ever cease your hatred momentarily and begin to educate yourself about biology, genetics, ethics and, let's be honest, plain old common decency.
    7. Re:No mention of Isaac Asimov by Watts+Martin · · Score: 4, Informative

      The movie really doesn't have anything to do with "I, Robot," as far as I know -- the original script for it was called, IIRC, "Hardwired." To be fair, it was supposed to be a pretty damn good script, but when it was bought by the studio that also had done some development work with "I, Robot" and owned the film rights to the name, they decided to merge the two concepts, because to someone with a Hollywood marketing executive's deep insight they're close enough (detective trying to solve murders committed by a robot). Really, though, it's still "Hardwired," with some of the names from the Asimov stories.

      I'll be curious to see if it's still a good movie, but I don't expect it to be a good adaptation of anything related to Asimov's works. The fact that it's pretending to be is unfortunate marketing spin.

    8. Re:No mention of Isaac Asimov by dhartshorn · · Score: 2, Interesting
      there is a comment by the actor that essentially says the point of the movie is uncovering the "deep dark secret truth" or something like that at US Robotics (what might that be, people don't like modems?


      US Robotics took their name from Asimov's stories.
    9. Re:No mention of Isaac Asimov by Hast · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think South Park pointed it out pretty clearly when the boys couldn't understand why a flag was racist since it has 4 white guys hanging a black guy. The boys simply saw it as 4 guys hanging another guy.

      If you read a book and find it racist because there are no poeple of a specific ethnic group in the when the book makes no mention of ehnicity then it's just you who are trying to be insulted too much.

  8. You should also be able to see it here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
  9. some torrent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
  10. Shame on them by wift · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's MIB, Independence Day and Buck Rodgers all rolled up and smoked about half way down so you get a burnt taste in your mouth watching.

    I'll wait for it on HBO.

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  11. Correction by slugo3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I, Robot Trailer Was Available

    1. Re:Correction by Trillian_1138 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Having viewed the trailer (got through eventually from one of the links someone posted), I don't know why anyone would want to see it...taking it off the web by /.ing and - ideally - taking the film out of production entirely would be the best gift the producers could offer.

      I picked up "Robot Visions," a collection of Asimov robot stories and essays, last week because it had a couple stories I had never read and a number I just hadn't read in a while. Asimov's writing, which discuss the posibilities of human missunderstandings and technology problems as well as just being well written enjoyable sci-fi, has nothing to do with the crap that Will Smith is starring in.

      As other people on this thread have said, the movie is inherently incompatible with Asimov's visions. The Three Laws aren't suggestions or helpful guidelines for robots to follow. They are physically built into each robot and cannot fail without the robot being 'insane' or broken beyond any posibility of repair. The vision of hundreds of robots attacking humans, being defended by Will Smith and "Dr. Calvin" (the idea of Dr. Calvin shooting at a robot is yet another thing to add to the growing list of "Why this movie looks inherently flawed") is an abomination against Asimov's work.

      This movie looks, smells, and tastes like the 'sci-fi' crap Hollywood has been shitting out.

      -Trillian

  12. Outer Limits Episode, Ellison by Noksagt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It is too bad that this is neither a remake of the old Outer Limits episode, nor Harlan Ellison's screenplay.

  13. Sci-Fi by Deliveranc3 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sigh this sucks, they are making all these sci fi movies too late. The concepts in them aren't really fantastic anymore they are just not here yet.

    I hope they make some of the really great ones while there is still time such as Ender's Game and Ringworld

    1. Re:Sci-Fi by Witchblade · · Score: 3, Funny
      I hope they make some of the really great ones while there is still time such as Ender's Game ...

      A story about nerds who get picked on, are really good at videogames, and have a messiah complex? I think I read that daily on slashdot.

    2. Re:Sci-Fi by kfg · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hey, stop making fun of me, or I'll kick your ass in Black & White.

      KFG

  14. horrible by Mmm_Coco · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Great book, but I can already see that it will be a horrible movie. From the looks of it, the robots just go crazy and kill people. In the book, there were actually excuses for the strange behaviors of the robots; conflicts between the 3 laws. However, I doubt that the movie will be any deeper than a kiddie pool.

  15. U.S Robotics Corporation ??? by DangerSteel · · Score: 2, Funny
    Will Smith sees a robot who may have committed murder

    I see another 20 minutes for my 100k download... I haven't had a USR since 300 baud

  16. Title by PacoTaco · · Score: 2, Funny

    How about:
    I, Robot vs. I, Rapper

  17. They've killed Asimov by anphilip · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The most distressing thing I see from this trailer is the fact that they have in one of their text snippets "Rules are made to be broken" or some equally stupid garbage. One of the things Asimov made perfectly clear in all his writings was the fact that whatever else the roboticists did they NEVER EVER EVER broke the 3 laws. It really pisses me off that there marketing automatons have the nerve to include the phrase "as suggested by the writings of Issac Asimov". He suggested no such thing!

    1. Re:They've killed Asimov by miu · · Score: 2, Informative
      They might be referring to the zeroeth law that was added to let Daneel be shoehorned into the later Foundation books.

      The problem is that "protecting humanity" will be used as way to trump the 3 laws and turn the robot into RoboCop, with the 3 laws conflict depicted as a variation of standard drama/action cop angst.

      It might suck, it might not, but I'm 95% certain that it will have very little to do with anything Asimov ever wrote.

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    2. Re:They've killed Asimov by Galvatron · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I also liked (and by "liked," I mean "disliked") how they rewrote the rules to be more accessible. "Rule #3: They can defend themselves." What the hell is this crap?

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    3. Re:They've killed Asimov by maswan · · Score: 4, Informative

      Oh, but they did break the three laws of robotics in the most obvious way in one of his stories, a number of robots were manufactured without the first law (never harm a human being...).

      The plot of the story was that one of these robots made it into a large population of robots with all three laws and Susan Calvin had to sort it out (while of course saying that these lesser roboticists were morons for creating robots without the first law).

      Unfortunately I do not remember the title of the short story, nor the collection in which it appeared, it was over 10 years I read it. Perhaps someone else can help me with that? This would probably be a fairly early collection of short stories by Asimov.

      To help the memory, the reason they were created was to serve as help on a science station (in space, I think), where humans were submitted to low levels of radiation which killed the positronic brains instantly.

      The scientists accepted the low risk of harm for the sake of observing whatever it was, but the the three laws of robotics didn't allow the robots to idly stand by and let even that low level of harm happen. And when they rushed in, they were instantly killed by radiation.

    4. Re:They've killed Asimov by CaptainCaveman_2002 · · Score: 5, Informative

      The story is "Little Lost Robot." A portion of the NS-2 (or "Nestor") line of robots were made with a *PARTIAL* first law -- "No robot may harm a human being." It left out "or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm." That was so the robots weren't compelled to rush into the radiation chamber ina futile attempt to save the human in it. The other 2 laws were left intact.

    5. Re:They've killed Asimov by maswan · · Score: 2, Informative

      Thank you!

      Yes, I got that detail on removal/modification wrong. And the rest of the info fits with my memory. Now I know what to look for when I try to find it for reading it again. :)

    6. Re:They've killed Asimov by v13inc · · Score: 2, Informative

      when i saw this trailer it reminded me of that story, and i was was excited. but near the end of the trailer, things go wrong... i dont seem to remember hordes of NS-2s rampaging through the building, attacking humans, and getting blown away with shotguns.

    7. Re:They've killed Asimov by pentalive · · Score: 3, Informative

      This movie does not deal with true asmovian robots.

      The three laws were to be so deeply ingrained in the positronic brain of the robot that to disobey any of them would cause "roblock", the robot would freeze up.

      As mentioned above, there were a group of robots working in a radiation laboratory. The robots would rush in to save
      the humans, only to destroy themselves (the radiation frys positronic brains and is relatively harmless to humans)
      so a new batch of robots was purchased with part of the first law "or through inaction..." removed.

      The Robots themselves came up with a zeroeth law:

      A robot may not allow humanity to come to harm, even at the expense of the other laws.

      These robots could kill to safeguard humanity.

  18. The Earth has developed a slight orbital problem. by Darwin_Frog · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's Isaac Asimov, spinning in his grave.

  19. Ender's Game by NMSpaz · · Score: 2, Interesting
    While there has been a movie "in the works" for about 10 years now, it may finally be happening. Looks like Card finally relinquished control of the script writing to get it to happen (at least that's what I'm reading between the lines).

    Sadly, it may already be too late. Now that the Ender's Shadow books are out, Card seems to be insisting that any Ender's Game movie shoehorn elements from that book in as well. So the Ender's Game that we all know and love will probably never happen. :(

  20. U.S. Robotics--Who knew? by Rescate · · Score: 2, Funny

    Best line from the featurette--"...lots of U.S. Robotics technology starts to malfunction around me..."

    Reminds me of my early days online.

  21. Re:What about Foundation?? by Chordonblue · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You'd need to have a crack team to do a screenplay. Asimov himself admitted that his earlier stories lacked character depth. Note the difference between the original Foundation/Robots series and 'Foundation's Edge' or 'Robots of Dawn'.

    Even so, you're not going to have 2 hour in-cabin discussions on the basics of relativity, hyperspace, or robot theory (as Asimov would often do). It made for interesting reading, but not good movie material.

    Now, 'Robots of Dawn' would make an INCREDIBLE movie because it has everything a MOVIE would need to make it a hit (sex, violence, dramatic tension, good special fx with a point, etc.) If the original series are ever done as movies - prepare for major rewrites aka, LOTR.

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  22. Re:Which story? by Noksagt · · Score: 3, Informative

    From what I heard, the new movie isn't directly based on any of the stories. It started as an original work & was adapted to add parts of the Asimov universe.

  23. Speaking of Matrix parallel... by GreaterThanZero · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Ok, I just watched the trailer, and something in the background music sounded awwwwwwwfully familiar...

    I just got out my Matrix Revolutions soundtrack CD, and though I only viewed the I, Robot trailer once...track 16, Juno Reactor vs. Don Davis - Navras sure sounds like the music heard in the trailer...

    Ok, I'll check again in the trailer...the relevant part in the trailer starts right at the city shot after Will Smith says "when people were killed by other people." Relevant part in song on soundtrack starts at about 16 seconds in.

    Anyone agree? Anyone know if both the trailer and soundtrack got that section from a mutual source, or if the trailer just got it from the soundtrack?

    1. Re:Speaking of Matrix parallel... by silentbozo · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's a common Hollywood practice to cut trailers to "hot" tracks from any source, including other movies. I've heard parts of the score from Backdraft in trailers for all sorts of films, and I wouldn't be surprised if they lifted a section directly from the score from Matrix Revolutions. Yes, when they air it, it's licensed. However, when the editors are looking for music, anything is game (I imagine that the old Napster was a great tool for them, while it lasted.)

      Personally, I think cutting in recognizable sequences from other movies is an extremely risky thing to do, as anyone who can recognize the music cannot help but make a connection (either good or bad) between the film that the music was originally scored from, and the new film...

  24. Pissing on Asimov's grave by payndz · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Fuckers.

    'I, Robot' was the first *adult* (ie, no pictures in it) book I ever read as a kid, at the age of maybe 4 or 5. I still have the exact copy of the book even now. I remember being very disappointed when I found out that robots didn't really exist.

    And now it looks as though Asimov is going to be fucked over by Hollywood. For Christ's sake, they had Akiva fucking Goldsman writing the script! The man who wrote 'Batman & Robin', 'Lost In Space' and a whole pile of other shit. Asimov can still write better than Goldsman, and he's *dead*. This fucktard shouldn't be writing v1agra spam, never mind major motion pictures.

    In Asimov's stories, the whole point of the Three Laws was that they were never actually broken! Human error led to situations where robots were caught in conflict between their explicit orders and the Laws, or they *seemed* to be breaking one Law - but only to obey another. However, in the trailer we see crazed robots chasing and attacking humans left, right and centre. Somehow I don't think we're going to get Powell and Donovan puzzling out what's gone wrong, step by step.

    Even the trailer is selling it as Bad Boys 3: Cybercops, what with Smith doing all his Fresh Prince schtick. I actually *like* Will Smith, but I don't want him doing wacky bullshit in an Isaac Asimov adaptation!

    And we even get an emotional robot right there in the trailer. Again, Asimov's robots may have *seemed* to have emotional responses in the stories, but it was invariably due to orders-vs-Laws conflicts that made them act oddly, or projection on the part of the humans interacting with them. Some of the robots in his stories (especially Daneel Olivaw) may have had personalities, but they were still *machines*, and behaved as such.

    Shit, and I had some hopes for this film - before I saw the trailer - too. It might even make money - "Will Smith vs killer robots? Keeeewl!" - but it's probably going to be even more insulting to Asimov than 'Paycheck' was to PKD.

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    1. Re:Pissing on Asimov's grave by iminplaya · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Human error led to situations where robots were caught in conflict between their explicit orders and the Laws, or they *seemed* to be breaking one Law - but only to obey another.

      It sounds like these robots had the same problem as HAL in 2001...

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    2. Re:Pissing on Asimov's grave by jayhawk88 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You know as I was waiting for this to download I read your comment, and I was sitting here thinking "Oh come on how bad can it be"? Well, I apologize for thinking that.

      Jesus. Seriously, who owns the rights to Asimov's stuff? Surely a child or newphew or somebody can sue to get this title changed or something?

      I'm with you. That 3 Laws Safe trailer attached to ROTK had enough cool-factor in it that I had high hopes as well. But this is total and utter crap. I'm sure it'll make $60 million, I'm sure the Burger King Kids Meal Toys will be quite wonderful and entertaining, and I'm sure all the old Will Smith "Wild Wild West" action figures still in storage will melt down quite nicely and save Hasbro nearly $5 million in materials cost. But this movie is pissing on Asimov's grave. I seriously wonder if I even want to see this.

  25. Re:Actor Authority by Operating+Thetan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Apparently Aasimov actually believed the three laws to be immutable physical laws, rather than plot devices.

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  26. Chris Cunningham ripoff? by huphtur · · Score: 4, Informative

    "I, Robot" reminds me of a Chris Cunningham video clip that he did for Bjork.

  27. More info on the movie by bgeer · · Score: 4, Funny
    I read an interview with the screenwriter and apparently it's going to incorporate elements from Asimov's I, Robot along with ideas from several bankable mainstream flicks.

    For instance they tweaked Asimov's three laws a bit to make them more accessible and relevant to modern moviegoers, they are now:
    Law 1: A robot must not talk about injuring human beings in Fight Club.
    Law 2: A robot must not talk about injuring Robots in Fight Club.
    Law 3: A robot must protect itself from injury using a minigun and rocket launchers.

  28. The 3 laws by qwertyatwork · · Score: 5, Informative

    Isaac Asimov's "Three Laws of Robotics"

    1: A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.

    2: A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

    3: A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

    1. Re:The 3 laws by Nalgas+D.+Lemur · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Looks like no one's mentioned the "Zeroth Law" yet, which I think was added towards the end of the Foundation series (I want to say in Foundation and Earth, for some reason, but it's been most of a decade since I last read the books, so I really have no idea any more, now that all the books are blurred together in my memory...).

      0: A robot may not injure humanity or, through inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.

      ...or some such similar wording. And, naturally, the other three laws were modified so that the "Zeroth Law" took precedence over them. I guarantee this won't come up at all in the movie, but as long as we're on the subject of Asimov, might as well mention it, right?

    2. Re:The 3 laws by utahjazz · · Score: 2, Funny

      UtahJazz's "Three Laws of Film Adaptations"

      1: An film may not injure a book or, through inaction, allow a book to come to harm.

      2: A film must obey orders given it by fans except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

      3: A film must protect its profits as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

      4: Fuck laws 1..3 and make as much profit as possible.

  29. Odd balance by sofakingl · · Score: 4, Interesting

    On the one hand, this movie has Will Smith in it. That definitely makes the film look unattractive, considering Will less-than-stellar work.

    On the other hand, we've got Alex Proyas as the director, who did both Dark City and The Crow. Both were very good films, and I think we should give this film a chance to turn out just as well.

  30. Trailer often don't reflect the film . . . by Kaimelar · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Ok, so it seems the consensus so far is that the trailer implies that I, Robot is going to be an action-driven "Will Smith-takes-on-the-killer-robots" kind of movie. I can certainly see that. But remember the alchemy of trailers -- you can make any movie look like anything in sixty seconds. Bad movies can come across as worth seeing, and good movies can appear bland, boring, or uninteresting. Perhaps the trailer isn't geared toward the Asimov crowd -- perhaps it's geared to the action-movie crowd to draw in people who would otherwise say, "Issac who?". Perhaps it will be like the first Matrix movie -- thought-provoking ideas wrapped in an action setting.

    Of course, I knew lots of people who said, "You know the scene where Neo shoots everything? That was the best part!" Apparently the parts of the movie I enjoyed went right by them. Maybe I, Robot will be the same way. Those looking for an action movie will get that, and those of us wanting action and something thought-provoking to talk about afterwards will get our way, too.

    Here's hoping. :-)

    1. Re:Trailer often don't reflect the film . . . by Telex4 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You know, I hope you're right. But there's something else about the trailer, besides the focus on inane "Will Smith-takes-on-the-killer-robots" action: Will Smith seems to be the focus, cracking innocent jokes and playing the same fool he's been since Fresh Prince.

      To me, Asimov's Robot stories were about exploring the concept of unbreakable laws, and how humans who depend upon the reliability of apparently such infallible laws react and adapt to situations when they fail. They're a wonderful blend of "what if" stories supported by an interesting range of (perhaps somewhat flat) human-robot counterpart relationships.

      Not only was that not reflected in the trailer, but I got the distinct impression that it was an entirely different concept.

      At least in the Matrix trailers they made a few references to the glib pop-philosophy.

  31. Top 10 of the things you thought you'd never see by Illserve · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, Will Smith starring in a hollywood remake of an Isaac Asimov series.

    Imagine hearing this prediction back in the days of the Fresh Prince of Bel Air.

    Back then I'd have sooner believed that the LOTR movies would someday made, and made very well by the same guy who made the campy horror comedy Bad Taste.

    Oh wait....

    nevermind.

  32. Asimov dated. by Captain+Rotundo · · Score: 2

    I have never read I, Robot... maybe I will so it won't be ruined. But I have to say the few Asimov things I have read were terribly dated. It can be a problem in fiction, and especially sci fi, and I think asimov's work has mostly succombed to time.

    1. Re:Asimov dated. by vidarh · · Score: 4, Insightful
      You heretic.... Actually I think Asimovs work is some of the most timeless sci-fi out there due to the way it is written. Very few technical details that aren't an integral part of the plots. Mostly the technology is used as a plot devices for stories that range from detective stories (Naked sun, for instance) to morality stories and exploring human nature (many of the robot short stories), including what it means to be human (Bicentennial man), or large epics (Foundation).

      Very rarely is technology itself the focus of the the story - even in the robot stories where a specific robot often seems to be in focus, as one of the main characters in the story, they tend to be only props used to make some point.

      This is a common thread with most of the sci-fi that survives long term. HG Wells, the Time Machine stands the test of time because the technology of the time machine isn't relevant to the story line. For that matter, the story could more or less have been told without time travel - just like in for instance Gullivers Travels, the whole journey is just an excuse to set the scene the way the authors wants.

      Gibson survives because he's detached enough from technology to write about it in very broad strokes - there are very few details to get hung up about as "dated".

      Philip K. Dick survives because most of his stories are about his characters, not about the technology they surround themselves with.

      And so on...

      The sci-fi that dates badly is the techno-fetishist stuff that is about the technology, as opposed to the consequences of the technology.

  33. It doesn't feel like I-Robot by MC_Cancer_Pants · · Score: 5, Informative

    That's because it's not I-Robot. They chose to use a script called "hardwired" instead of the script written by Harlan Ellison. The decision to name it 'I, Robot' was made by some fox execs after the fact.

    There is no doubt that this is nothing more than Men In Black and Independence Day. Will smith is not a sci-fi actor and he shouldn't be. He turned sci-fi into a black commedy children's movie. I'm just glad that he declined the role of Neo in The Matrix, as he was originally casted to do.

    1. Re:It doesn't feel like I-Robot by Schemat1c · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's because it's not I-Robot. They chose to use a script called "hardwired" instead of the script written by Harlan Ellison. The decision to name it 'I, Robot' was made by some fox execs after the fact.

      The movie seems to revolve around the 3 robotic laws that Asimov came up with. So, the title seems appropiate in at least acknowledging that. The 3 laws have been used many times in non Asimov stories.

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    2. Re:It doesn't feel like I-Robot by dalek_killer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The three laws have been used in many sci-fi stories that involve robots, and not just the ones by Asimov. Other than it has the three laws and a story concept like the one from one of Asimov's book I don't see this as an Asimov story. I'll probably see this movie, but I would still rather see Harlan's script get filmed but that will never happen; what with the rep. he has go with movie studios.

    3. Re:It doesn't feel like I-Robot by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 2, Insightful


      The movie seems to revolve around the 3 robotic laws that Asimov came up with. So, the title seems appropiate in at least acknowledging that.


      Dungeons & Dragons had elves, dwarves, and wizards in it. It is certainly inspired by JRR Tolkien's work. But you don't see it being called "Lord of the Rings", do you?
  34. Re:Rumors by florin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Kind of like the mess they came up with for Starship Trooper. Sheech that was horrible!

    In its own right I think that was a rather entertaining and at times superbly funny flick. I suppose that it wasn't quite what fans of the book were expecting but what Verhoeven came up with worked quite well as a movie.

    Actually, I'm less concerned about Will Smith than about the fact that they cast some hot chick straight out of the Coyote Ugly Bar to pose as Susan Calvin. But let's keep an open mind.

  35. Re:I did think it was gonna be good.. by jfengel · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually he was very good in Six Degrees of Separation.

    There's a lot of talent there, but he's mostly using it to make cheap^H^H^H^H^Hexpensive action movies and some not-very-good dramas (Ali, Bagger Vance).

    He's got a lot of on-screen charisma, which is actually one of the most important skills an actor can have. People respond well to him, and that's a hard thing to teach. (I'm a director, and I've tried.) He's got some range, though he's at his best when it's light-hearted (his rap career, his sitcom, Men in Black).

    But I keep looking for him to follow up his very good (not brilliant, but very very good) performance in Six Degrees. I haven't seen that yet.

    Keanu... well, Keanu tries. I was actually the only one on the world who liked him in Much Ado About Nothing. He was interesting in My Own Private Idaho. He was actually rather good in that awful Something's Gotta Give. He really, really wants to be a Good Actor, but he'll have to settle for being charismatic.

  36. Re:The Earth has developed a slight orbital proble by shadowbearer · · Score: 2, Funny


    How would we notice? All the inertia generated by rotational corpses nowadays is canceling out.

    I daresay that it's possible we could use the gravitational vortex being generated by Jefferson's corpse as a time travel device :)

    SB

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  37. From modems to killer robots? by Doppler00 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I would never have guessed U.S. Robotics would be go from making modems to killer robots.

    Seriously, did they get permision to use this name in the movie?

  38. Asimov spinning? by Archibald+Buttle · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There are a number of comments here which suggest that Asimov would be spinning in his grave if he saw this movie...

    Unless these people have worked on the movie and read the screenplay I do not understand how they can make that judgement right now. Sure, there are a few bits in the trailer that show some kind of fight going on involving robots, but that's not entirely inconsistent with the three laws. Many of Asimov's robot stories were concerned with situations where the actions of a robot seemed to break the laws of robotics and sometimes people did get hurt.

    All we really have right now is a trailer and a brief interview-type bit with Will Smith and the director. From that we can see in a few very brief clips that some robots run amok, and we hear from Will Smith that some robots malfunction. From what I remember reading Asimov this is all still fairly consistent.

    What all the naysayers need to bear in mind right now is that all of the footage we've been shown has been put together by marketing people. Most if not all of them will have no idea about the original material and will not have read Asimov. All they have to go on is the footage they've got of the movie. The writer and director rarely have much imput into what goes into this stuff.

    I'm not saying that this movie is going to be consistent with Asimov. What I'm saying is that right now it's too early to tell for sure. We'll see in July.

  39. In the mind of a marketing executive by cgenman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Marketing Executive: "Oh come on, Terminator 3 was a great movie. I, Robot was a great book. If we merge the two, we will have something twice as great!"

    Public: "That's what you said about merging Aliens and Beverly Hills Cop. Did Pluto Nash even have a script?"

    Marketing Executive: "Everyone loves the Coz!"

    Public: "You're thinking about Leonard Part 6."

    Marketing Executive: "Exactly. How did it get to Part 6 if it wasn't great?"

    Public: [sigh]

  40. The movie is a bastardization. by Monx · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The scene in the trailer with all of the robots attacking people makes no sense. My guess is that the writers have never read any of Asimov's robot books at all. I'll usually see a movie based on a book I like no matter how bad it looks just to get someone else's interpretation of the story. This looks more like pure fabrication than interpretation.

  41. A step backwards by The+Monster · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Why do they even bother buying the rights to something they couldn't really care less about, artistically?
    Because movie studios exist to make money, not art. This is going to be another Starship Troopers, only it will have even less to do with the book of the same title. The really sad part is that we're going backwards:

    Asimov's Laws effectively ended the 'Frankenstein' phase of robot stories in written SF. Good SF at least takes a shot at taking into account the sociopolitical aspects of technology. It's obvious that we will never be legally allowed to build AI that controls potentially lethal force without some protection against it being used against us. [Exceptions will of course be made for DoD robots, but they will no doubt have their own safeguards.] Once Asimov's Laws were in print, SF authors could never get away with selling books about robots going amok and turning on their human masters. Everyone knew that the government would demand the Three Laws or a close analogue be installed in every robot

    Ah, well. Movies tend not to be as intellectually evolved as books, so we're treated to the Terminator series, and now the greatest spectacle of script syncretism since The Tower and The Glass Inferno movie adaptations were forged into The Towering Inferno. I'll probably contribute to the insanity by paying to watch this bastard, then look forward to seeing it parodied in a future Scary Movie release.

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    1. Re:A step backwards by Drakin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The problem however is that Asimov himself also wrote stories that showed some of the problems with the 3 laws, and of course, introduced the 0th law... which could be the most frightening, as it evolved on it's own within robots... and allowed a robot to use lethal force against humans in limited situations.

    2. Re:A step backwards by NeMon'ess · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What about in foreign countries? How do you know small firms in Taiwan or Croatia won't make chips that don't obey the three laws? Considering the flaws of current sofware and hardware, I expect supposedly safe robots of the near future will be full of lethal bugs and failures. Expect early-generation robots actually allowed any real degree of lethality and AI to malfunction or be hacked with lethal consequences.

    3. Re:A step backwards by ceejayoz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Once Asimov's Laws were in print, SF authors could never get away with selling books about robots going amok and turning on their human masters.

      It's fairly easy to conceive of something going wrong with the Three Laws. Look at software written today, and tell me that the code for an AI is gonna be bug free. I bet you can't do it with a straight face.

      Add in things like nasty dictatorships adding code into, say, housekeeping robots, that makes them flip out on peacekeepers randomly. Or, perhaps, a computer virus spreading amongst the robots via their wireless network.

  42. Flashing source code in flash site by UnnamedNewbie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In the "Chicago Police Department" section of the I,Robot site there are flashing snippets of code in the upper left and lower right parts of the screen.

  43. Will as Neo by autopr0n · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It would have been intresting to see what Will Smith would have done with Neo's character. The W. Bros did a good job of directing around Keanu's wooden acting "style", I'm sure they could have done a good job with Will Smith as well.

    One of the intresting things is that Warner Bros retained casting control over the film. The W. Bros had no control over who played the leads...

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  44. Dr. Calvin is in it by autopr0n · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wasn't that the name of the the female engineer who developed robotics in Asmov's stories?

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  45. Will smith by metalhed77 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Will Smith is Will Smith. He's as one dimensional as Keanu (although his dimension is far more interesting and charismatic).

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    1. Re:Will smith by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      "OH HEEEEEEELL NO!"

    2. Re:Will smith by TMB · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You've never seen Six Degrees of Separation, have you?

      [TMB]

  46. fundamental flaw in their presentation... by Bansuki · · Score: 2, Interesting
    the trailer clearly portrays robots as a threat - the main character is seen as the accuser while main society accepts them as harmless appliances.

    this contradicts asimov's original motivation for writing many of his robot stories (in particular, "robbie" the first story he wrote about robots in which a robot saves a child's life), which was to counter works like frankenstein that portrayed robots as being, at worst, inherently hostile to their creators or, at best, incompetent.

    but i don't blame will smith - minority actors are rarely given jobs (the majority of screenwriters (who are white), when interviewed, admitted not knowing how to write for non-white characters). i do blame the producers - the same kind of fucktards that ruined bicentennial man (another asimov work), and ai.

  47. 3 Hollywood Laws by Bodrius · · Score: 4, Funny

    Isaac Asimov's "Three Laws of Robotics"

    1: A Hollywood Exec may not crate a good adaptation of book to film, or, through inaction, allow such a movie to be made.

    2: A Hollywood Exec must obey orders given it by the Marketing Polls except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

    3: A Hollywood Exec must protect its own profit margins as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

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  48. Re:Rumors by Hast · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It was frigging Beverly Hills in space.

    While the book has a lot of good points about a facist government, human nature (the book starts off with humans attacking an alien world to make them more willing to negotiate later) and war the movie never gets past the "ohh, look at these big guns and these big breasts" stage.

    The news-flashes was good though. Actually it's pretty much the ownly thing in the movie which I thought was in the spirit of book.

    Had it been released under another name I probably wouldn't have loathed it so. It's just that I have this thing about movies that completely ruin a good story.