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Google Releases Gmail Notifier

Philipp Lenssen writes "After several unofficial, screen-scraping Gmail utilities, Google now released the official Gmail Notifier (Beta) for Windows. It will sit in the Windows tray, alerting you of new emails in your account (if you are lucky enough to have one already). Additionally, the Gmail Notifier can connect 'mailto:'-links in web pages to Gmail."

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  1. this is awesome by m2bord · · Score: 3, Insightful

    this is just one of the tools i've been waiting for. now if only gmail could have a "save as draft" feature...i can switch from my current webmail provider to gmail.

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    1. Re:this is awesome by Red+Alastor · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well... I *never* saw gmail going down. The worst that I saw was a weird error on logout that lasted for a day but that didn't caused problem to use my account.

      They are working on it and meanwhile, why don't you save your mails on text files on your computer ?

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    2. Re:this is awesome by Seek_1 · · Score: 2, Informative

      >> or gmail NEVER goes down, it just won't cut it.

      beta
      /bay't*/, /be't*/ or (Commonwealth) /bee't*/ n.
      1. Mostly working, but still under test; usu. used with `in': `in beta'. In the Real World, systems (hardware or software) software often go through two stages of release testing: Alpha (in-house) and Beta (out-house?). Beta releases are generally made to a group of lucky (or unlucky) trusted customers.
      2. Anything that is new and experimental. "His girlfriend is in beta" means that he is still testing for compatibility and reserving judgment.
      3. Flaky; dubious; suspect (since beta software is notoriously buggy).

    3. Re:this is awesome by allan_q · · Score: 2, Informative
      There was a workaround posted on the Gmail-Users Google Group

      [quote]

      1. make a contact that has the name 'save' with the email address USERNAME+save@gmail.com
      2. make a lable called 'save'
      3. create a filter that auto-archives and lable's the messages from USERNAME+save@gmail.com.
      Since the messages get auto archived, they skip your inbox. If you want to recall drafts just click on the 'save' lable.

      Now, inorder to save a draft, just type 'save' into the "TO" field and send the message.

      [/quote]

    4. Re:this is awesome by Izago909 · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is a nice to that makes a "Compose GMail" option when you click a mailto: link.

      This is the GMail Notifier that I think the parent was referring to. It displays the simple text "Gmail" at the bottom right of the browser window by the down button on the scroll bar. Hovering over it displays the number of unread emails, single clicking it opens gmail in a new tab, and double clicking lets you add, change, ir remove gmail login info. You should know that Google has blocked this program at least twice before so don't be alarmed if it stops working, just keep an eye on the webpage for a newer version.

      Also, another neat google plugin displays a thumbnail to the left of many search results. It too displays the simple text "GP" near the bottom right scroll button. Single click it to turn it on and off again.

      If you still have that invite, I could use one. My friend just finished his tour of duty in the air force and a bit jealous that I have a gmail account and he doesn't.

  2. You got mail! by cwebb1977 · · Score: 5, Funny

    When will it learn to say "You got mail!" ?

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    1. Re:You got mail! by ack154 · · Score: 2, Funny

      You mean "You've got Gmail!" right?

    2. Re:You got mail! by houghi · · Score: 5, Funny

      Probably more like "You've G'mail!"

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    3. Re:You got mail! by allism · · Score: 5, Funny

      When will it learn to say "You got mail!" ?

      When the IQ of the gmail users drops by about 50 points?

    4. Re:You got mail! by bloxnet · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually, it sort of can. A long time ago I had my outlook configured to play a wav of a girl saying "Die Bitch"...but I turned it off a short while ago.

      Well, I installed the Gmail notifier, forgot how loud my speakers were set, and heard

      "DIE BITCH" loud enough to make me spill my drink as I watched email notification pop ups in the right hand corner of my screen.

      So as a warning to others and a reply to you...the notifier will play sounds for incoming mail.

      For me, this article was a great and amusing way to start my Friday. Now I may buy a couple shares of Google stock!

  3. new mail notification sound by ack154 · · Score: 4, Informative

    From the FAQ, it also says that it can play a sound when new mail arrives. And that sound is actually just the Windows New Mail Notification sound in the Control Panel.

    And it's been mentioned before, but I still think the Gmail Loader is still a handy utility. I'm migrating a lot of my mail and accounts in to Gmail and this thing was a huge help.

    1. Re:new mail notification sound by kzinti · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And it's been mentioned before, but I still think the Gmail Loader is still a handy utility.

      Does the Gmail Loader still have the limitation that the date that appears on any uploaded e-mail in Gmail is the date of its upload, not the date of its original sending? If not (and I don't see how it could, as that problem must lie on the Gmail side), then it's hardly worth using. What's the point of uploading twelve years of e-mail to Gmail if you can't tell it "Show me all mail from March of 1996" and get the right answer?

      Importing mail from past archives is a big item on my wish list for Gmail. The Gmail Loader is a huge step in that direction, but until Google fixes the date problem, it doesn't do me any good.

    2. Re:new mail notification sound by ack154 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes, it does still have that limitation. And yes, it does seem to be on the Gmail side and I'm pretty sure there isn't much that can be done about it (short of Gmail making an import mail utility to function correctly).

      But ya, it does kind of suck. But when I imported my stuff, I'm just importing old mail and I really don't care what the date is (for searching or not) - because if I want to refer to any of it, I'll just be searching by it's content.

    3. Re:new mail notification sound by 88NoSoup4U88 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't you think that your co-workers would be a bit amazed hearing Stephen Hawking say 'Do you need a bigger penis ?' from out of your cubicle ? :D

    4. Re:new mail notification sound by Threni · · Score: 2, Funny

      > it can play a sound when new mail arrives.

      Does it play a sound when Gmail is actually released to end users?

    5. Re:new mail notification sound by kzinti · · Score: 2, Informative

      I should have been more specific. Gmail does show the correct Date: header when you look at the message, but when you look at an index like Inbox, the dates listed there are the upload date, not the Date: of the message. The date by which Gmail "knows" the message is the date of arrival, not the date given in the Date: header.

    6. Re:new mail notification sound by Solder+Fumes · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Can anyone explain to me what the point is of moving all your personal email into someone else's free service? I could have gotten a Gmail account by now, but I don't need it. Domain names are cheap, web hosting+email is cheap, hard disk space is cheap, my email archives are irreplacable. I have my own email domain, and I can store hundreds of gigs of email if I really have to. If I need to get to my archives from somewhere else, I can always SSH into my network. Maybe Google lets you search easily, but all you really need is a better indexer for your local email archives. I just don't understand why someone would move 12 years of their life into the data warehouse of someone you don't control. Their handling of their stock offering certainly doesn't inspire confidence. Maybe Google really messes up and they get shut down tomorrow. You never know.

    7. Re:new mail notification sound by jhoffoss · · Score: 3, Informative
      Actually, after looking, doing something like "find all within x days" is not difficult at all, and is in fact the only way you can search for a date.

      Gmail->Search Options:
      Date within: [1d, 3d, 1w, 2w, 1mo, 2mo, 6mo, 1y] of [e.g. today, Friday, Mar 26 or 3/26/2004].

      Doing this within 3d of 12/5/02 turned up fourteen messages that were sent in that range. Which is about accurate. Now, I'm not going to go through four years of email to see if that got them all, but I can nail a date down that small, I'll remember another characteristic of the message to search on, rather than the date.

      The whole point of gmail's design (i.e. no folders, only labels) is that you filter/label mail, which I did as I migrated all my mail. I have email from eight classes segregated, and it broke the messages into conversations properly, rather than each separate message displayed on it's own line.

      Google has designed gmail better than I thought it could be done. There are some features there (undoubtedly more undocumented) that I would never have thought of including. For instance the date range search!

      The fact that it dispalys all my migrated mail as received july 27 is odd considering what I just said, but all that mail is archived and there only for me to dig back for something specific.

      Oh, and the spam filtering is aggressive (almost too much so), which I think is great, compared to missing every few spams and dropping them to the inbox.

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    8. Re:new mail notification sound by jhoffoss · · Score: 3, Informative
      Actually, after looking, doing something like "find all within x days" is not difficult at all, and is in fact the only way you can search for a date.
      <sheepishly>

      I'm wrong, it does not hit migrated mail dates properly when searching on date. I mistyped my date and only glanced down at what looked like was correct. Upon fixing it, gmail does not search this way.

      /me goes to submit feature request to gmail team

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    9. Re:new mail notification sound by kzinti · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I like the idea of having all my mail - ever - indexed, searchable, available through the Internet, without having to manage the infrastructure myself. I have a setup similar to what you describe. I ssh into my site. Redirect an IMAP and SMTP port, and voila - I can read my mail from anywhere. I'm experimenting with the idea of Google Mail as an alternative that I don't have to manage myself.

      My e-mail, too, is irreplaceable. I regard it as among the most precious of my data. I would never trust Gmail to be my only copy of anything, for a variety of reasons. But it would be nice to upload my old e-mail to it, mirror my new e-mail to it (or vice-versa), and have a nice searchable backup that I can get to from anywhere.

    10. Re:new mail notification sound by ptr2004 · · Score: 5, Funny

      With so many applications wanting to put themselves in the tray. I think its about time we had a super tray. The super tray will notify us when something important in the regular tray is happening

    11. Re:new mail notification sound by kkovach · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is because this utility isn't so much an email import tool, as it is an email forwarding tool.

      - Kevin

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  4. How long.... by avalys · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How long until someone reverse-engineers this API and makes an OS X and Linux client available?

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    1. Re:How long.... by pedestrian+crossing · · Score: 2, Informative

      From the FAQ: To use the Gmail Notifier, you need Windows 2000, Windows XP, or a more recent version of Windows. The Notifier is not compatible with Macintosh or Linux systems at this time, but we look forward to offering support for more operating systems in the future.

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    2. Re:How long.... by Tranzig · · Score: 4, Informative

      What about the gmail notifier Firefox extension?

    3. Re:How long.... by Mickut · · Score: 4, Informative

      There is already a Mozilla (and Firefox) extension for this, GMail Notifier (homepage http://www.nexgenmedia.net/extensions/). It works with both the Linux and windows versions of the browser.

    4. Re:How long.... by the+unbeliever · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They've said that about Google Toolbar for about a year now, too.

    5. Re:How long.... by buchan232 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Hey, THANK YOU. This works great, one little problem, your link goes to an old version. Here http://nexgenmedia.net/extensions/ is the developers page for the latest version. The version you link to has issues but once I updated it works perfectly.

  5. Why not a small Java app? by tliet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I mean, come on, Win32 only?

    1. Re:Why not a small Java app? by random_culchie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't know why the parent was marked a troll because its a valid question.

      The fact is for close integration with the operating system (like putting stuff in the tray in windows) is impossible to do with out using API's that break portability.

      If you break portability what the point in doing it in java the first place?

    2. Re:Why not a small Java app? by bygimis · · Score: 5, Informative

      You can indeed put a Java app in the Windows system tray. The same code will also put it in the Gnome system tray in Linux for example - all part of the Java Desktop open source tools at;

      http://community.java.net/javadesktop/

  6. No point? by grub · · Score: 3, Insightful


    I keep my browser open all the time (including a tab to gmail) and it refreshes automatically. I don't see the benefit, unless having Yet More processes running is a good thing.

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    1. Re:No point? by slungsolow · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I would rather have a process running in the background that takes up less memory than a browser window. There are always instances when I need to keep my memory management in mind, and a tool like this makes it easier to do that.

    2. Re:No point? by cbrocious · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's to show your aversion to cut down versions of Windows that can only run 3 processes.

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    3. Re:No point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The mailto: handler alone makes it worthwhile.

    4. Re:No point? by Trelane · · Score: 2, Informative

      Applets and Notification Area.

      Applets are added into your panels. An applet you can add to your panels is the Notification Area, where the Bluetooth and Rhythmbox notification icons are located.

      Notification area is explicitly for notification-type things, not applets, although people seem tempted to do this.

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  7. Wow... Breakthrough by Aceto3for5 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now I will have an up to the minute report of exactly how MUCH spam im getting. And with a Gig of email space, I can learn about Coeds who want to show me thier cams, and low cost Ci@lis, maybe even learn how to start a buisness-- all without having to clear my inbox every two days.

    1. Re:Wow... Breakthrough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've been using gmail for a few months now, and as of this writing, I've gotten 1 piece of spam delievered to that mail box.

      Maybe no one knows about it.

    2. Re:Wow... Breakthrough by Freshie · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've had Gmail since May, and haven't received one spam yet...

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    3. Re:Wow... Breakthrough by buchan232 · · Score: 3, Informative

      You know ... I thought this very same thing. Then one day I clicked my spam folder and there was a whole pile of them in there.

      Have a look, you may not be as anonymous as you think :-)

  8. GTRAY by Yo+Grark · · Score: 5, Informative

    Gtray has been working FABULOUSLY for me.

    Don't need to switch unless there are more options that google can provide; which from the website there isn't any.

    http://torrez.us/gtray

    Yo Grark

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  9. FireFox extension by GizmoToy · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've been using something similar as an extension to FireFox. It works pretty darn well, but you obviously have to keep your web browser open for it to work. This program might be pretty cool, I'll have to give it a shot.

    For those interested, the Firefox extension can be found here:
    Gmail Notifier

    1. Re:FireFox extension by Shelrem · · Score: 3, Informative

      Heh, beat me to it!

      In addition to this, add on WebmailCompose (previously GmailCompose) and you've got pretty much the full functionality of this gmail toolbar, plus it's cross-platform, for those of you who use several platforms and want a more unified computing experience.

      For the record, i've been terribly happy with this combination for a while. Together with the great featureset of Gmail, it makes Webmail actually pleasant to use!

  10. So when do we get Gmessenger? by silverbyte · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is obviously the first step by google towards integration of search and the personal interaction space.
    How long before our contact lists in gmail are moved to orkut and into a messenger?

    1. Re:So when do we get Gmessenger? by theCoder · · Score: 2, Informative

      Another incompatible instant messaging system? Ick. I'd much prefer people just started using Jabber instead.

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  11. percentage by kc0re · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wonder if Google collects statistics on how many and what type of operating systems hit google a day... I am betting a large percentage of people that use Gmail don't use Windows. I reserve the right to be wrong.

    1. Re:percentage by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 2, Informative

      This was covered recently here on Slashdot. Google does keep stats, but they're not for any real analysis. That doesn't stop people from trying to use them for real analysis.

      I'm betting that a large percentage of people that use Gmail are using Windows. Everyone I know that has an account - including nearly two hundred people at my friend's company - is on a Windows box.

    2. Re:percentage by Lieutenant_Dan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Oh God, are you wrong. And that's certainly your right.

      The breakdown of people using Gmail will be close to the same breakdown of the fools using their blogs or regular folks using their search engine.

      Here's your small percentage of Linux users.

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  12. For Mac users by jdwest · · Score: 5, Informative

    Mac users have this http://homepage.mac.com/carsten.guenther/GmailStat us/ as a freeware option.

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    1. Re:For Mac users by jeffehobbs · · Score: 2, Informative

      ...and gCount too.

      Both GmailStatus and GCount use the in-development Mac OS X Growl framework for cute little pop-up notifiers.

      If you (understandably) don't want to compile Growl, here's a compiled version.

      ~jeff

  13. Google being evil already? by tehcyder · · Score: 5, Funny
    I bet this has caused some confusion in /. readers minds.

    Google...good

    Windows...evil

    Windows only Google app...does not compute!

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  14. Swamped by GMail invites ? by vi+(editor) · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder if someone here has the same problem as me: I get constantly swamped with GMail invites. Far too much people are sending me these stupid invites and it's really getting on my nerves.
    Well, it was fun for the first 20 or so, but now it's really annoying. Even people I just remotely know are sending me this stuff.
    I usually sign them up with bogus data just to stop this madness but it doesn't really work.
    Does anyone know when Google is stopping its beta test ? I hope soon otherwise I see a nervous breakdown coming.

    1. Re:Swamped by GMail invites ? by Dogers · · Score: 2

      You're lucky then!
      I've had an account for almost 3 months now and I've not had a single one..
      My girlfriend almost killed me when I took the original account (all she has is Hotmail!) but I and another friend, who also had a gmail account, promised you get invites every 2 weeks.. whoops!

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    2. Re:Swamped by GMail invites ? by saderax · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, it was fun for the first 20 or so, but now it's really annoying. Even people I just remotely know are sending me this stuff.

      What's your email address?

    3. Re:Swamped by GMail invites ? by ElDuderino44137 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Damn stupid social interaction!

    4. Re:Swamped by GMail invites ? by Espectr0 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Dude, give them to the military.

      http://www.gmail4troops.com/

  15. Gmail Notifier by Stypen · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is something that has been in the fires for a while for Firefox users. Doron Rosenberg authored an extension that allows the same functionality. You can find it here.

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  16. skins by Texodore · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why don't they just skin Windows? They have the toolbar, mail checker client thing, searcher bar that can sit in the task bar. I mean, just have google be a part of every single app on the desktop.

  17. Re:Where is the notifier for by ravydavygravy · · Score: 3, Informative

    In the increasingly useful gdesklets framewrok:
    http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/cate gories.php?f unc=gd_show_app&gd_app_id=171

  18. What about Linux? by jbash · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wonder what operating systems the users of this will be usuing. Maybe a larger-than-average percentage of people who use Gmail are on Linux instead of Windows. What then?

  19. And for autohiders? by judmarc · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I mean those of us who autohide the taskbar. It's not clear whether the notifier will pop up or not (and we may not want it to - the possibility for distraction is obvious).

    You can get it to play a sound, but the FAQ says it may notify in error up to two minutes after all new mail's been cleared. Beep! Beep! BEEP! Urrgh....

  20. This makes GMail 2x better by six11 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is great! I know people who have been holding back on using GMail because of the notification thing. I sometimes still get email at my Yahoo account, and I am notified when I receive them. Every time the Yahoo notification thing pops up I am reminded of how almost-but-not-quite perfect GMail is. This little icon in the tray will end up being a bigger deal than it looks.

    I've installed it and it works great. It uses the same slide-up text bubble idiom that AIM and Yahoo and Thunderbird use. But the bubble not only tells you that you have mail but also who it is from and if there is room, the first part of the text of the email. If you missed it, you can right click and select 'Tell me again...' and it will scroll through all your unread emails, so you can get a quick overview of what's going on in your Inbox right now without having to use your browser. Much nicer.

  21. Maybe it's me, maybe it's not by fiftyvolts · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't understand why we are jumping through hoops to have auto refresing JavaScript-full convoluted html webmail that interacts with some little utility in your tray. I mean, I understand the convenience of webmail, but I think that installing this is whre I would draw the line between simple & easy and flakey & klunky.

    Isn't 100% easier and more smooth to interact with POP3 and your favorite email software? Maybe it's just me. I've been using a hosting service for my website and email and I guess having that much control over the set up and delivery methods has made me skeptical of free webmail in general.

    1. Re:Maybe it's me, maybe it's not by mcc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Isn't 100% easier and more smooth to interact with POP3 and your favorite email software?

      I think the idea is your favorite email software isn't available everywhere. If you're ever using a computer other than your home desktop, and you want to read your email, you don't have the option of launching up whatever email client you like-- because the computer won't have it. Probably there will just be just Outlook Express, and you'll have to set up a user and configure your servers or whatnot. Not fun. It's much easier to have the option of just going to a website and checking your email, and once you start using this option you'll tend to want to use this website even when you get home-- even though at home you are actually free to run whatever your favorite email program-- because it's pleasant to have a single consistent interface every single time that you check your email, whereever in the world you are.

      Of course, I don't use GMail, but the above logic is why even at home on my mac, I pretty much always check my email by sshing into a remote shell and using this command line mail program I sort of like. Ssh is pretty much available everywhere, and unlike webpages all ssh clients are actually compliant with one another...

    2. Re:Maybe it's me, maybe it's not by theCoder · · Score: 2, Informative

      Have you tried PuTTY? Whenever I happen to find myself on Windows and need to ssh, that's the first (and usually only) thing I think of. Just Feel Lucky for putty at google and it'll take you right there. And the best thing about PuTTY is that it doesn't require any sort of install -- just download and run. I've yet to find a simpler and more feature complete SSH client for Windows.

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  22. Doesn't work with NT4 by Kuad · · Score: 3, Informative

    Generally, I'm not logged into the net at home on a 24 hour basis - I disconnect my DSL whenever I don't need it. Paranoia can have its advantages.

    Anyways, I need this tool at work. And some of us are still stuck with NT4 at work until the end of the year (when support dies and they finally upgrade us). This tool doesn't work with NT4, and I gather it doesn't work with 95/98/ME from the installer's error message. Just a heads-up for everyone.

    Personally, GTray works fine for me.

  23. The iTunes model by mcc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What I find increasingly interesting is how Microsoft's competitors-- now that it's been made clear that united states antitrust law is not going to be enforced-- are trying to get around the Microsoft OS monopoly with what amounts to shareware. Microsoft has the power to create the default configuration for the vast majority of PCs, and since traditionally few users have stepped away from the default configuration this means Microsoft has the ability to dictate many things, from what formats will gain popularity to what web standards succeed or fail. If Microsoft desires, it can install a piece of software on every new copy of Windows in the world. Those companies that are not Microsoft do not have this luxury. Some of them now appear to be circumventing this by just trying to create random pieces of "must-have" software for free and bundling the service or format that they are actually making their money from with it.

    For example, iTunes. Apple needs people to have support for Quicktime; however, they have no way of making Windows users want to install Quicktime. Webpages that require Quicktime will, of course, force you to download it, but such pages would seem likely to become scarce as webmasters realize that every computer has WMP already and using WMP instead of Quicktime will not require their users to download a plugin. Apple's solution is to create a music player program for Windows that is considered by many to be the best there is, which everybody then wants to download and try out. As a process of doing this, these people inadvertently wind up installing Quicktime. End result: every computer has Quicktime already.

    Google here is just another example. Google appears to be anticipating that at some point Microsoft will start using its space within the desktop to promote some engine of its own and dissuade the use of Google. Google is reacting to this by trying to get a toehold into the desktop of their own, using things such as the Google Toolbar and now, the GMail notifier. Both of these things will be installed by users for purposes largely irrelivant to Google's search-- the former for popup blocking, the latter for mail-- yet doing this means that Google builds up inertia with everyone who "just has" to download their Google tools after every system upgrade. This means that when the system update comes where Microsoft decides that every time you accidentally control-click on a word displayed on the screen it will open up Internet Explorer and search for it in MSN Search, Google can use their toehold in the desktop to undo this change and replace it with something (1) useful and (2) involving google search.

    This approach hits Microsoft hard where it hurts; Microsoft is excellent at creating software. However, historically they have by and large failed at creating good software. Microsoft's strategy of destroying competitors by bundling their own special brand of mediocre with roughly equivilent functionality for "free" with the OS doesn't work anymore once people start to wind up downloading the software of Microsoft's competitors free just because it's better.

  24. Why such a big fuss? by manavendra · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Isnt this kind of notifier common with other email service providers (yahoo and hotmail)?! So what makes it so special?

    And with other email service providers beefing up the storage space, one would have thought this pre-occupation with a gigabyte email-storage would be over!

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    1. Re:Why such a big fuss? by bookemdano63 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The gmail search and threading interface is the best I have seen.
      I am currently using 1% of my gigabyte.

  25. save a draft by sirshannon · · Score: 3, Informative
    1. Re:save a draft by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Informative
      For those of you who don't have a GMail account (and therefore can't see the above link), it simply says:

      Features and more
      What's on your webmail wish list? (1,000 MB? Check.)
      done! - Address book import
      we'll try - Opera support
      we'll try - Ability to send messages with HTML formatting
      we'll try - POP3 access
      working on it - Plain HTML version of Gmail
      working on it - Ability to save a draft
      working on it - More robust contacts list
      working on it - Automatic message forwarding
  26. Just what I need.... by war3rd · · Score: 2, Funny

    Another TSR. What's one more when you have 30 I guess...

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  27. This is awesome! This sucks! by Randolpho · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ok, so I started with this huge happy giggle when I saw this... exactly what I've been waiting for to fully switch to gmail. I love Gmail, but currently stick to Yahoo since Y!IM will let me know when I have new mail, and that's a feature I desperately need. I considered some of the third-party equivalants, like Pop Goes the Gmail, but they rely on hacking through the website and all it takes is a change from GMail to break them.

    But then I noticed that it was for Win2k/XP/2k3 only. WTF? That's great for home, but at work (where I spend most of my time), I'm stuck on Windows ME!! So now this sucks as much as it rocks. I'm sad.

    Personally, I wish Google had taken my suggestion to heart: password-protected RSS feeds of your email subjects. Then anybody could write a 3rd party notifier.

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    1. Re:This is awesome! This sucks! by Randolpho · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, it's quite impossible to install it on Windows ME -- the installer is OS aware.

      I suppose I could install it on my XP box and copy the files and registry keys....

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  28. Available wherever Firefox is by Duke+Machesne · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've been enjoying both of those key functionalities on every platform I use, by way of two excellent firefox extensions: Gmail Notifier and Gmail Compose.

  29. I'm All Out :( Sorry by Capt_Troy · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's it. My 5 invites were sucked up within 3 minutes. Thanks!

  30. what about something for Freedesktops? by xutopia · · Score: 2, Interesting

    KDE/GNOME?

  31. Perl fans... by virid · · Score: 2, Informative
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  32. That's a good idea, but by bwalling · · Score: 5, Funny

    What I'd like to see is a little app to sit in the system tray and let me know when I'll get a GMail account.

  33. FYI: multiple copies don't work. by Gondola · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have three Google accounts. I have one super-secret account that nobody knows so I can... uh... tell people that I have a super secret account that nobody knows. I have one that's close to my real name, so I can use it for a backup for work. And I have one generic one for normal everyday use and storage.

    Unfortunately, now I have three different Gmail accounts to track.

    For those of you with two more Gmail accounts who haven't had a chance to try out the Gmail Notifier yet, it doesn't work for multiple accounts. You can have multiple copies running simultaneously, but it will only refer to the first one you signed in as, even though it *will* prompt you for a new username/password on the second copy you run.

    If you are monitoring more than one Gmail account, what solution have you come up with?

  34. Except for one big annoyance by Morphix84 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you click on a mailto hyperlink, while it brings you to the gmail site and creates the appropriate template, it doesn't log you in automatically (and since the toolbar has your uid and password, it should). Definately want to be able to save local too.

  35. Because it works by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't understand why we are jumping through hoops to have auto refresing JavaScript-full convoluted html webmail that interacts with some little utility in your tray. I mean, I understand the convenience of webmail, but I think that installing this is whre I would draw the line between simple & easy and flakey & klunky.

    Because it works. I use GMail at home, at work, wherever, and it just works. Works in Mozilla or IE. I didn't have to set up my own IMAP server or anything crazy like that.

    Yeah, I could (and do) ssh to my home box and read my POP mail with mutt, but even with GMail's occasional brief outages that has been less reliable than just using GMail. And it wouldn't help me when I'm sitting in a boring training seesion and can't really install Cygwin on the machine ...

    1. Re:Because it works by Kiryat+Malachi · · Score: 2, Informative

      PuTTY. No need to install cygwin for SSH. And since you just download the executable and run it, no install needed, only the most locked down machines will prevent its use.

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  36. Re:Am I the only one? by TheBigTBird · · Score: 2, Funny

    not One, not Two, but Many.

  37. Privacy vs. tech by scrm · · Score: 2, Informative

    I just don't understand why someone would move 12 years of their life into the data warehouse of someone you don't control.

    You're right. Re-read Brad Templeton's privacy concerns over Gmail and the prospect of storing the "12 years of your life into the data warehouse of someone you don't control" becomes rather dubious.

    However, from a purely technical standpoint there are some real advantages to chucking your mail archives into Gmail. The search feature is second to none (who even needs labels?), the interface beats any webmail (Squirrelmail? come on!) or IMAP reader hands-down, and the conversations feature is a real bonus (Mark Lyon informs me that GMail automatically makes conversations from the messages as they are uploaded with his Gmail loader).

    The bottom line is, I don't know whether to upload all my old mail to Gmail yet, and for me the jury's still out until the geeks and the lawyers agree.

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  38. I don't get it by HeyLaughingBoy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    OK, somebody explain to me what the big deal with a GMail account is. As far as I can tell it's just free webmail with 1Gb storage. Yet people are so excited about it. Why?

    I mean, free webmail is everywhere. I have untold gigs of storage on my HD and unused old HDs in the closet and I have never come close to more than a meg or so of saved email (if people send me pictures I want to keep, I just detach the file and save it somewhere else).

    So am I missing something here?

    1. Re:I don't get it by Psycho77 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well there is 2-3 things that make gmail very superior.

      The UI is just AWESOME, its so easy to use, very dynamic. You dont have to click refresh to see your new email, the screen update. When you compose, you start to type a name. a Box (not a drop box) appear with all the suggestion that begin with that letter from your address book.

      The Thread function is awesome, when you in a conversation with the same topic. All you see in your inbox is 1 line xxxx to yyyyy (52) "Hey fromy our last email.."
      Basically thats tell you there is 52 email in the thread and you see the last message. When you click on it. it open every reply are "hidden in kind of table" except the messages you didnt read yet. It make it easy to follow your conversations. My friends and me use that and we have like 12-14 peoples replying. So its easy to use.

      When you reply you automaically get up the message with a option to reply or reply all (no screen update or change or anything its direct).

      The 1 Gigs is just fantastic. I have the conversations for the last month. You can just archive them to do Search. There is filter and label function to automatically filter your email.

      There is starred option too if you think a conversation is important, you can see all your important message in a different section.

      With the new notifier, its kinda better than any email system around.

      It has nothing to do with a webmail, its way superior.

  39. you want a gmail account? by geekoid · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can send you an invite for [puts pinky to mouth] one Million Dollars!

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  40. That's my address and I have no invites by jesser · · Score: 2, Informative

    I am jruderman@gmail.com and I have not had Gmail invites for a month. Any particular reason you're trying to get Slashdot users to spam me?

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  41. mailto handler by hiroshi912681 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That mailto handler is a pretty cool idea, I don't think I've seen that before. Is there a mailto handler for any other web based email service like Yahoo? That would be handy for my mom, who doesn't understand the whole mailto thing.

    On a slightly related/unrelated note, some people here are mentioning webmail to pop conversion programs like yahoo pops and pop goes the gmail. Does anyone know if there's such a program available for everyone.net webmail users?

  42. About the "mailto:" mail handler... by jbarr · · Score: 2, Informative

    While Gmail Notifier DOES open a new compose window, be aware that unless you check the "keep me logged in for two weeks" checkbox on the login screen, you will have to log in every time, even if you are already logged into Gmail in another browser window.

    While it's a bit cumbersom, at least it's still more secure...

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  43. Waiting for eprompter by data64 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I am waiting for eprompter(www.eprompter.com) to add GMail support. That way I get all my Yahoo, hotmail, Gmail and other web based mail accounts monitored by the same app.

  44. No options, yay! by yuting · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Notifier doesn't come with any options to configure. Yay! Simplicity at last!