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Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow

serutan writes "Tuesday night I attended a sneak preview of Kerry Conran's groundbreaking film, Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow , courtesy of the Science Fiction Museum in Seattle. I was completely blown away. Below is my brief review of the movie and the event. No spoilers, if you have seen any of the clips available on the web." Read on for the rest.

Set in a mythic version of the late 1930s, this movie is a stunning tribute to classic sci-fi serials, comics and pulp magazines of that era. Starting with a reporter investigating the disappearances of top scientists, the story quickly becomes a nearly constant barrage of giant robots, aeroships, submarine planes, ray guns and retro technology on a grand scale. The plot, which hurtles across maps of the world Indiana Jones style, definitely take a back seat to the effects. The character interactions are all predictable. But all of that is consistent with the genre, and for me it didn't get in the way of enjoying the hell out of this movie.

What sets this film apart from others is that every scene was shot against a blue screen. Except for some hand props and the actors themselves, the whole thing was computer generated. We've certainly seen plenty of CG, going all the way back to "The Last Starfighter" in the 80s, but I've never seen anything done so stylishly or so well. Perhaps the hazy, murky look is perfectly suited to both the 1930s atmosphere and the current state of the art of CG. It works.

The packed screening was followed by a Q&A with director Conran, who turned out to be an impressively low-key, likable guy. He started working on the film about 10 years ago with a blue screen in his living room, wondering whether he could create an entire movie in his Mac. The first 6 minutes took him 2 years. Initially he made an animated version, which actors later used as a guide as they mimed their way through the live version. When Paramount got involved they insisted on big-name actors, so the theatrical release is actually version 3. Hopefully all three will make it onto the eventual DVD. Conran mentioned that for his next project he wants to tackle Edgar Rice Burroughs' epic John Carter series.

The presenter, a filmmaking friend of Conran's, closed the screening with a joke about Pete Townshend meeting Eric Clapton in a London bar and commiserating about some new kid named Hendrix, "who's gonna kick our asses." He imagined that Spielberg and Lucas might soon be having a similar conversation somewhere in California. I have to agree that it seems like a distinct possibility.

Thanks to serutan for this review!

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  1. I can think of another... by Chess_the_cat · · Score: 4, Funny
    What sets this film apart from others is that every scene was shot against a blue screen.

    Pretty sure that Attack of the Clones was also shot entirely in front of a blue screen.

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    1. Re:I can think of another... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Bzzzzzzzt! Incorrect. Wrong. There were location shots by a lake in Italy.

    2. Re:I can think of another... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm pretty sure some of them were green.

    3. Re:I can think of another... by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Attack of the Clones was also shot entirely in front of a blue screen."

      Funny.. the first thought that came to my mind was the word "blew."

    4. Re:I can think of another... by revscat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, in the BSOD context, that was really funny. Too bad that's not what you intended. :)

    5. Re:I can think of another... by Gyorg_Lavode · · Score: 5, Funny

      Funny, I always thought they shot the background and poorly animated the actors.

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    6. Re:I can think of another... by BlewScreen · · Score: 4, Funny

      mine too :)

      -bs

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    7. Re:I can think of another... by Tumbleweed · · Score: 2, Funny

      Too bad they didn't film it _behind_ a blue screen. At least the parts with Annakin.

    8. Re:I can think of another... by Cereal+Box · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What sets this film apart from others is that every scene was shot against a blue screen.

      And you can tell. Up until now, I didn't know it was entirely shot in front of a blue screen, but every time I saw the commercial the thing that struck me was just how obvious the blue screen effect is. I just can't get over how awful (visually) this film looks, based on the trailer.

    9. Re:I can think of another... by ePhil_One · · Score: 4, Funny
      And you can tell. Up until now, I didn't know it was entirely shot in front of a blue screen, but every time I saw the commercial the thing that struck me was just how obvious the blue screen effect is.

      Just think of it as an animated film and it will all go down better. Even the parts with live actors. :)

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    10. Re:I can think of another... by goodhell · · Score: 5, Funny

      Too bad they didn't shoot some of the poor actors and animate the background.

    11. Re:I can think of another... by FudgePackinJesus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well then...

      The set designer for Tron must have been a genius.

    12. Re:I can think of another... by ckaminski · · Score: 2, Funny

      Amazing what you can do with a dark room and some glow sticks.

    13. Re:I can think of another... by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 4, Funny

      Bzzzzzzzt! Incorrect. Wrong. There were location shots by a lake in Italy.

      But the reason that Anakin and Padme interacted so poorly must surely have been because the actors were filmed independently and then composited together!

  2. Can't wait to see this! by Crazy+Man+on+Fire · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I just saw the trailer for this yesterday. I must have been hiding under some rock (or not reading /.) for the past several months, because I hadn't heard of the movie until my roommate told me about it yesterday. Looks very cool.

    1. Re:Can't wait to see this! by bpland · · Score: 5, Informative
      The clip has been up on apple.com for almost 3 months. Have a look if you want

      http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/skycaptain andtheworldoftomorrow/


  3. Re:Huh by lothar97 · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, I just made sure my eyes were looking at the computer monitor.

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  4. My Impressions from the Commercials by Enigma_Man · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From the commercials about this movie, it looks incredibly cheesy, like an unwitting hollywood insult to the retro-future styling (not to mention their choice of an actress, bleh). It's good to hear otherwise.

    -Jesse

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    1. Re:My Impressions from the Commercials by stratjakt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It does look cheesy, the commercials suck.

      From what I've read, I want to see this film, but it hasn't sparked even the remotest interest for, say, my kids - who are the ones they want, to turn this into the Star Wars of their generation.

      Angelina Jolie is IMO overrated and sucktastic. The commercials feature her fat lips so prominently it looks like another wretched Tomb Raider promo.

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    2. Re:My Impressions from the Commercials by scowling · · Score: 5, Funny

      Angelina Jolie. Sucktastic. Fat lips.

      I'll be in my bunk.

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    3. Re:My Impressions from the Commercials by xTown · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's what I thought too, except for the "unwitting" part. I'd like to see a non-campy movie that really DOES pay homage to pulps. The pulps themselves were not campy, nudge-nudge wink-wink affairs, so there's no reason that movies like "Doc Savage" and "The Phantom" et al. need to be. Of course, I'm just going by the trailers and commercials for "Sky Captain," like you are.

      I also don't like that waxy white "CGI" sheen that everything has. The latest Harry Potter movie had that, too. Ick.

    4. Re:My Impressions from the Commercials by FortKnox · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Reminds me quite a bit of Fallout. Game looked incredibly silly, but was one of the best RPG's ever (and it was also a '1940s post appocalyptic world' genre).

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    5. Re:My Impressions from the Commercials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      After that preview my wife hit me with the ultimate in trick questions. She said, "I'd like to look more like her, would you mind implants if I got my breasts to look like hers?" I thought it was best just to pretend I didn't hear her.

    6. Re:My Impressions from the Commercials by Paulrothrock · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Notice how that was worded. "Would you mind." That's such a baited question. "No, I wouldn't mind" and "Yes, I would mind" can *both* be changed into "Your breasts are small and saggy, saddlebags." (I'm not saying anything about your wife's breasts, just how someone could interpret the question.)

      You made the right call.

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    7. Re:My Impressions from the Commercials by killjoe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Unless she will actually be sucking I get tired of her playing the same character over and over again.

      Let me know if she is going to be naked most of the time, then it'll make seeing her character worthwile.

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    8. Re:My Impressions from the Commercials by NoData · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They really missed the boat on the commercials. They employed that same overused, overwrought, narrator that menacingly voices every action movie commercial in his baritone growl (you know the one). It just really takes away from the mythic period-piece nature of the movie. It's kind of confusing for the average viewer...you hae the standard sci-fi or action voice, but an entirely different look and feel. There's an expectation violation. They should have either had no voice-over (like the downloadable trailer), or made the narration more period appropriate--like a "Newsreel" type voice over.

    9. Re:My Impressions from the Commercials by nizo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Here question is a field of landmines. Your only hope of a right answer is, "Honey you are the most gorgeous woman on the planet, I wouldn't change a thing". Any other answer and you are pretty much doomed. Of course by ignoring her you made her think you were fantasizing about Jolie.

    10. Re:My Impressions from the Commercials by JaxGator75 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Listen and learn, boys...

      "I wouldn't change a thing..."

      /seriously turned off by fakes, lips or otherwise

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    11. Re:My Impressions from the Commercials by Planesdragon · · Score: 4, Funny

      Try this one.:

      "Honey, *I* think you're perfect. But it's YOUR body, and if YOU think you'd want to change something, I'll still support you and think that you're perfect--just like I do when you cut your hair."

      (An optional "but, yeah, that'd be hot!" is only allowed for those of us with loving wives who have grown used to sarcastic comments.)

    12. Re:My Impressions from the Commercials by dasmegabyte · · Score: 4, Funny

      I just say, "Yeah honey, I've always thought your tits were too small and saggy. I say you get a second job and fix them up nice. Get me a beer."

      See, it's like a lottery. The coolness of the remote possibility of success is worth the probability of losing, and having to sleep on the couch for a week.

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    13. Re:My Impressions from the Commercials by kimota · · Score: 3, Informative

      If you haven't seen "The Rocketeer," it may be as close to the pulps as you can hope for (well, there's always "Raiders of the Lost Ark"). Relatively non-campy in a way that "The Shadow" "Doc Savage," and "The Phantom" weren't (although the Phantom was played fairly straight, too, IIRC). If you *have* seen it, see it again--I can guarantee that it's been too long since you've gazed upon the beauteous Jennifer Connelly!

      --Kimota, who is almost as excited about seeing "Sky Captain" as he was at 13, when seeing trailers for Raiders....

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    14. Re:My Impressions from the Commercials by nizo · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Do I look fat in this?

      Some possible safe answers are:

      Take off your clothes so I can compare.

      What fat?

      Damn I think I left the oven on (run from the room and out the front door and don't ever come back).

    15. Re:My Impressions from the Commercials by Fred_A · · Score: 4, Funny

      I picked option 3 a few years ago and have been posting to /. from webcafes ever since.

      I recommend it to everyone.

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  5. First intirely blue screen movie was.. by MrPrefect · · Score: 5, Informative

    called The Immortal you can find it on the net, pretty wierd but shot intirely infront of a blue screen

    1. Re:First intirely blue screen movie was.. by ENOENT · · Score: 5, Funny

      My first entirely blue screen experience was Windows 3.1.

      So there.

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    2. Re:First intirely blue screen movie was.. by monkeymonster · · Score: 2, Funny
      ...it's French... apparently the French don't have the letter "A"...


      That's because they live in "Frence", somewhere between "Spein" and "Germeny" (and they go skiing in the Elps)
  6. Kinda Reminded Me by The+Dobber · · Score: 5, Interesting


    of the PC / Xbox game "Crimson Skies" when I first saw the previews.

  7. Hey Great by jetkust · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let's see. 1. It's a Sci-Fi Movie. 2. It's not a sequal or a remake. And 3. It's not Star Trek!
    Wow, they should make more of these!

    1. Re:Hey Great by superultra · · Score: 5, Funny

      Right. Because original science fiction movies that aren't sequels, remakes, or Star Trek always do well at the theater.

    2. Re:Hey Great by kc0re · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I seem to remember a movie entitled "The Matrix" that was pretty good for it's time.

    3. Re:Hey Great by lpangelrob2 · · Score: 4, Funny

      You're right! I'm going to run out and see Battlefield Earth as soon as I can!

  8. Groundbreaking? by StevenHenderson · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Tuesday night I attended a sneak preview of Kerry Conran's groundbreaking film

    The plot, which hurtles across maps of the world Indiana Jones style, definitely take a back seat to the effects. The character interactions are all predictable. But all of that is consistent with the genre

    Is this a little contradictory? Special effects are not ground-breaking. Give me a movie with effects like these and a plot that doesn't insult me. Then, we can call it "groundbreaking."

    1. Re:Groundbreaking? by stratjakt · · Score: 2, Funny

      It has a "league of extrordinary gentlemen" feel to it, and that was the vilest shitstain to hit celluloid in the history of film.

      I kept waiting for Dorian Grey to sodomize some young boys but he never did. (Who the hell writes him into their story as some sort of superhero?)

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    2. Re:Groundbreaking? by pete-classic · · Score: 5, Funny
      I kept waiting for Dorian Grey [sic] to sodomize some young boys but he never did.


      I must have the abridged version of "The Picture of Dorian Gray."

      -Peter
    3. Re:Groundbreaking? by lpp · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I believe the grandparent post was referring to the author of said work, Oscar Wilde, homosexual and I believe accused of sodomizing young boys (vary vague and flimsy recollection of that bit of information).

  9. check this out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    ... if you like the look of this movie also look at Sin City, directed by RR (Desperado, Spy Kids fame). It is also filmed all against a green screen like Sky Captain. Initial screenings have people drooling. Sky Captain looks good, but I think Sin City will own all when it comes to the style... go RR!

  10. Movie theatre trailer by lothar97 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've seen the trailer a few times in the movie theatre, and it looks pretty impressive visually- soft lighting, retro color scheme, etc. I guess it doesn't translate as well onto the small screen.

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  11. Crimson Skies by kisrael · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I saw my first preview for this movie this past Holiday season, when I was also playing through "Crimson Skies", the Xbox port. Both have a similar vibe, a retrofuture that never quite was, lots of planes, exploding dirigibles, etc. I'm really looking forward to this flick...

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    1. Re:Crimson Skies by dougmc · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Yeah, I was thinking the same thing -- it looks a lot like Crimson Skies, made into a movie.

      Not that I've seen this movie yet, but the previews look so similar that I wonder if they wanted to make a Crimson Skies movie, but couldn't get the movie rights.

      Either way, it looks like it's right up my alley. Alas, with kids, going to the movies is hard. :)

    2. Re:Crimson Skies by kisrael · · Score: 2, Informative

      I doubt it's an aborted Crimson Skies license, knowing what we do about the movie's background.

      I think it's just a captivating idea...WW2 plans always seems to be one of the "coolest" eras, not quite as primitive and "knights of the air" as WWI, but not so electronic and jet powered as Korea and beyond. Making a retrofuture of it might just be a natural fit.

      Crimson Skies actually played a lot like Wing Commander and Wing Commander 2...a LOT of gameplay parallels. And WC was indeed modeled on WW2 type stuff as well, so it all fits together.

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  12. Angelini Jolie wearing an eyepatch? by ellisDtrails · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow my pirate / brunette bombshell fetish is finally realized!

    1. Re:Angelini Jolie wearing an eyepatch? by pete-classic · · Score: 5, Funny

      Guybrush? Is that you?

      -Peter

  13. Aha! by Dystopian+Rebel · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's what Jar Jar Binks, "Face Dances", and "AI" have in common!

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  14. I Miss ol' Jon Katz's reviews by GuyMannDude · · Score: 5, Funny

    Couldn't you have put in a paragraph or two drawing parallels between this movie and Columbine? Or how it relates to globalism? Your plain vanilla movie review kinda feels naked without you attempting to link it in with current events or society.

    GMD

    1. Re:I Miss ol' Jon Katz's reviews by daniil · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh, it's easy to read some social commentary into it. For example: "Set in a mythic version of the late 1930s, this movie is a stunning tribute to classic sci-fi serials, comics and pulp magazines of that era." To elaborate on this, you could, for instance, draw parallels between tributes to classic sci-fi and the increasingly popular retro-looking cars. And talk about how, unlike in the 50's, all these cars are computer generated, etc. Oh, and i won't even mention parallels between the world "then" and "now..."

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    2. Re:I Miss ol' Jon Katz's reviews by Lars+T. · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, if we had giant flying submarines, there would not have been a Columbine.

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  15. the Sci-Fi museum by CoffeeJedi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I just visited that museum on vacation a few weeks ago. It's not very big, being shoe-horned into the Experience Music Project, but what it lacks in quantity it makes up for with quality. The exhibits and presentation was amazing. (for example, while a short loop about the Matrix displayed on a big projection screen, smaller projectors turned the walls into cascading 'Matrix-code')

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    1. Re:the Sci-Fi museum by ObligatoryUserName · · Score: 3, Informative

      Strange, I just visted last weekend and was a little disappointed. The spherical video displays were cool, and some of the original cg work was passable (though, it seemed somewhat inappropriate since it looked lower-quality than the movies being represented). However clever some of the looping videos (including a big screen display of numerious famous ficitonal starships all passing within close proximity to each other)these aren't really good reasons to go to a museum-- all those things could have just as well been presented online.

      The real reason to visit a museum for the artifacts, and on this level they sometimes impressed and sometimes were lacking. A number of items were not authentic props- there were replica lightsabers, a replica R2-D2, a reproduced Terminator - and these sometimes made the displays seem a little incomplete. On the other hand, they have lots of Star Trek originals: Patrick Stewart's Borg accessories, a couple dozen phazors, tricorders, Captain Kirk's chair. They had a lot of scripts and original manuscripts, as well as model spaceships... Actually, my disappointment might just be bitterness at the gift shop lingering - I just wanted something with a logo on it, and everything was wildly overpriced, I think the cheapest pen was $10... oh yeah, that and the wording on the back of the ticket rubbed me the wrong way, I believe it starts "This ticket is a revokable license..." - I shit you not.

      Meh, I'd still go again, but if you're planning a trip, keep your expectations in check. I'm sure that as the years go on it will only improve.

      As a more on-topic aside, the Sky Captain movie reminds me of my friend's comic that he's been working on for the past year or so. It's more of a traditional pulp thing, but what I've seen [that he hasn't posted yet] seems pretty cool (he just finally put up the first installment recently - I believe he'll be updating weekly): Captain Spectre and the Lightning Legion.

  16. personally by WormholeFiend · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm looking forward to seeing this movie, but I'll admit I'm starting to have CGI-fatigue.

    CGI should be a tool to enhance a good, original story.

    I rarely see original plots anymore being made into movies.

    One notable exception though, is the recently made Oldboy, a Korean movie.

    If you intend to see this work of genius, avoid spoilers at all costs.

  17. Obligatory Futurama Quote by loonicks · · Score: 5, Funny

    Every time I hear this advertised I picture the cryogenic technician in the first Futurama episode, saying "Welcome to the WOOORRLD of Tomorrow!"

  18. How about a plot too? by TheFlyingGoat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "The plot, which hurtles across maps of the world Indiana Jones style, definitely take a back seat to the effects."

    Why can't Hollywood make movies that have great special effects AND good plots? The Matrix and Spiderman were the the only two decent movies in recent times that have had good CG and a decent plot. I guess you could toss some of the Pixar flicks as well, but that's still a small minority when compared to all the crap that has come out.

    Hollywood, pay attention: we need something that interests us, not just something that looks pretty.

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    1. Re:How about a plot too? by DesertFalcon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      While I definitely agree with you, I feel the need to point something out here.

      Whenever I catch myself thinking about the "good old days" when everything that was put out was good quality and worthwhile, I have to remind myself that things only seem that way in retrospect because I've forgotten about all of the drivel that was produced back then, and have remembered all of the high quality stuff. Take music, for example - the only reason "classical" music has a reputation as being high quality is because nobody plays the crap that was written in the 1800's. Only the very best of what was written then is still around.

      The lifespan of craptacular movies is shorter than that of bad quality arts in other genres, I think, so it doesn't need to take several hundred years for the quality to be separated from the crap.

      Anyway, just my two cents on the issue of "Why is there so much crap coming out these days?"

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    2. Re:How about a plot too? by mod_parent_down · · Score: 2, Funny
      Pixar's effects aren't that good. Look at Finding Nemo -- I guess some of the shark footage was pretty good, but ftmp they're just swimming around chatting with each other.

      They definitely had no memorable explosions, that's for sure.

    3. Re:How about a plot too? by khrtt · · Score: 2, Interesting

      1. The Matrix did not have a good plot. Maybe a decent plot idea, but -- using humans for batteries????? Isn't it obvious, flies are a much better source of power for machines.

      2. Spiderman was only a sequel/remake to a 100 feature movies and paper cartoons, originating from a cartoon. The plot was barely good enough for a cartoon, designed barely well enough to be barely enterntaining to retarded children. I don't see how an adult slashdot reader can find the plot of Spiderman satisfactory.

      3. By CG you mean CGI - "computer generated imagery", no?

      Movies with shitty plots and pretty SFX make good box office. This is the lesson of StarWars. Before StarWars was a hit, it was generally thought that good plot would produce a good box office. Then Lucas made StarWars and hit the jackpot with it. Every hollywood movie ever since has been designed around the SFX. Basically, they design the SFX first, according to currently available technical means and the available budget. Then they tailor the plot to fit aroung the SFX - no wonder the resulting product is barely watchable while heavily stoned. This kinda tells you that most moviegoers are retarded and/or stoned, but it doesn't leave any hope that Hollywood will ever make a good movie again. If you want a nice plot, go see an independent movie.

      There was a Cronenberg flick, eXistanZ, out at about the same time as The Matrix. Similar "trapped in virtual reality" type plot. Much less box office intake. Much less SFX, better plot, and better screenplay. Most people had a strong preference to either one or the other movie, as you can deduce from reading the comments on IMDB. You can also see, from the same comments that most people who liked the Matrix over the eXistanZ couldn't spell. nuff said.

    4. Re:How about a plot too? by dinsdale3 · · Score: 5, Informative

      The Matrix and Spiderman were the the only two decent movies in recent times that have had good CG and a decent plot.

      Lord of the Rings?

  19. Great by Arthur+Yossarian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He imagined that Spielberg and Lucas might soon be having a similar conversation somewhere in California. I have to agree that it seems like a distinct possibility. Wonderful. We'll have another director who relies solely on CG to sell his films, without any real focus on plot, dialogue, or acting, just like Lucas does these days. I don't think that this is a good trend; it makes for bad movies and deligitimizes CG technology, so that directors who actually use it well (like Peter Jackson in LOTR) don't get the recognition they deserve.

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    1. Re:Great by Bearpaw · · Score: 2, Funny
      I don't think that this is a good trend; it makes for bad movies and deligitimizes CG technology, so that directors who actually use it well (like Peter Jackson in LOTR) don't get the recognition they deserve.

      Yeah, all Jackson got for his effort was shitloads of money, shitloads of great reviews, and shitloads of awards, including an Academy Award for Best Director. Okay, sure, he didn't win an Unobtanium Zrigny Award from the Unaligned Worlds Council for the Electromagnetic-Spectrum-Based Arts, but there was a lot of tough competition last cycle. Anyway, he wouldn't have been able to keep the award anyway -- possession of unobtainium by private individuals isn't allowed on backward worlds like Terra.

  20. FireFox by SQLz · · Score: 3, Funny

    I guess the world of tomorrow doesn't support Mozilla/FireFox. I can't view the page.

    1. Re:FireFox by Cheap+Imitation · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hey, this particular world of tomorrow uses 1930's technology. Try Internet Explorer!

  21. Groundbreaking! by Scrameustache · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Conran's groundbreaking film
    The plot, which hurtles across maps of the world Indiana Jones style, definitely take a back seat to the effects. The character interactions are all predictable. But all of that is consistent with the genre

    Special effects are not ground-breaking.

    Why not? There's no SFX ground to break? Or does this not constitute a ground-breaking level of SFX achievement according to you?

    Give me a movie with effects like these and a plot that doesn't insult me.

    The plot insults you? WTF?

    Its a pulp! I love these! Indiana Jones, Tom Strong, and now Sky Captain. I'm happy.
    If you don't like pulps, that's your loss, but to say that it insults you...that's something else.
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    1. Re:Groundbreaking! by StevenHenderson · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Yes, FX can be groundbreaking. However, the inclusion of said effects does not make for a groundbreaking MOVIE.

      As for the plot, why does a movie with special effects have to be a pulp? Why not run with the great effects and make a movie like Minority Report? Yes, I understand that not all movies have to be serious, but just because a movie has a thin, cheesy veil of a plot, does not mean I am going to defend it. Kill Bill went for that type of pulp plot and succeeded. Sky Captain does not try for it, but rather stumbles onto it - not the same thing at all.

    2. Re:Groundbreaking! by Scrameustache · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As for the plot, why does a movie with special effects have to be a pulp?

      You are approching this completly backwards.
      Its not a movie with SFX that has to be a pulp; Its a pulp movie that has to have SFX.

      Why not run with the great effects and make a movie like Minority Report?

      Because that movie was already made?
      Why do you object to people making the storie they want to make? He started this with a mac in his house. You don't like it? Buy a mac, make your own instead of attacking his movie, without even having seen it no less!
      If you have a movie in your head you want to see on a screen, make it instead of demanding that others refrain from making theirs in order to make what you want to see.

      God I can't stand that attitude! He's not taking anything away from you!
      He's making something new, he's contributing years of effort to our cultural heritage, and you sit there complaining that he spent these years making something he likes instead of something you like.
      Sheesh.

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  22. I'm impressed with something different by circletimessquare · · Score: 2, Interesting

    SUre, the all-in-front-of-the-blue-screen point is important and impressive, but i'm equally intrigued by:

    1. Laurence Olivier starring in the movie, from old celluloid.

    2. That film noir look achieved through filming the scenes in black and white... and then colorizing them! (Smacks forehead) What a great, simple, and clever idea.

    Those 2 slick gimmicks have to lend an air of retro feel to the movie with aplomb, nevermind the other design elements, like the look and feel of the robots.

    Gotta see this one.

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  23. Groundbreaking, my arse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    OK, let's translate this...

    What you said:
    ...groundbreaking film...
    ...I was completely blown away.

    What you meant:
    OK, OK, I know this film is just a cheesy knockoff of a pulp '30s-era sci-fi rag, but Angelina Jolie pops her tiddies out! TWICE!!!

  24. The coolest part of this movie is... by Drunken_Jackass · · Score: 5, Interesting

    the fact that it was one man's vision, and started in his garage using off-the-shelf software and a whole lot of time before any studios ever got involved.

    Wired had an article about it a while ago, and i've been excited to see it ever since.

    Horray for garage studios!!

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    1. Re:The coolest part of this movie is... by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 2, Informative
      Thank you for pointing it out, I was about to until I read your post.

      Although I had originally been under the impression that he took pictures of the actors, and added them to the movie that way. Oh well, still just as cool.

      If you ever want to see a cool CG anime done ENTIRELY by one man and voiced by himself and his wife, check out Hoshi No Koe (Voice of the Stars), and he recently did another one but I forget the name.

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  25. Wild ride to the past that should have been by miketo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Cheesy? Of *course* it's cheesy! It's for every kid who sat in a theatre with a big bucket of popcorn, grinning like a madman at every swoop and explosion that graced the screen.

    I wasn't part of the pulp era, but I enjoyed reading pulp and Golden Age sf works. There's just something free-wheeling, childlike, and wondrous about the visions of tomorrow that those stories embodied. I still like space opera, with vast galactic fleets spinning out of a nebular cluster to go into battle with the dreaded Zorkanoids -- or whatever the evil space being of the moment was.

    The trailers for this reminded me of another "guilty pleasure" film, "The Rocketeer." I suspect "Sky Captain" will join "Rocketeer" in my movie collection as something that is aimless, harmless exciting fun.

    1. Re:Wild ride to the past that should have been by CoffeeJedi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      here here! i agree completely
      The Rocketeer was one of the most underrated movies of my time, I'm really looking forward to next weekend.

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  26. No one will go to see this movie by Jakhel · · Score: 2, Funny

    for the action, special effects, or storyline. We all know that geeks since the early 90's have attended movies for 2 reasons and 2 reasons only:

    1) Angelina Jolie (and her lips..god those lips)
    2) Natalie Portman

    Hence the reason the movie "Hackers" is a favorite among geeks, as well as the continued success of the new Star Wars Trilogy (and in some cases "The Professional")

  27. Re:How do you figure? by carlos_benj · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think the difference is that many big budget sci-fi "epics" aspire to something more cerebral than their material will allow. Take all of that stuff and reprise the old Buck Rogers serial experience in a CGI package and you have something called fun. It's a foreign concept among "serious" directors and actors (and perhaps pretentious movie goers).

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  28. John Carter of Mars! by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Actually, this would be kind of interesting. I've read the original series (my father named one of my sisters after Dejah Therece, the Princess of Mars) and loved the sheer retro campty style of the "smiling Virginian" sword fighting his way across the Red Planet.

    If done "so seriously it's fun" like Sky Captain appears, it could be one hell of a ride. If nothing else, I love a good swashbuckling movie.

    1. Re:John Carter of Mars! by toddhisattva · · Score: 2, Funny

      They are waiting for the cameras and projectors that can handle the fourth primary color.

  29. I'm sorry, Microsoft has patented the blue screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...though I hadn't realized they had ported it over to the Macintosh yet.

  30. View the trailers by nemski · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you haven't seen the commercials or trailers, take a look here . . . http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/skycaptain andtheworldoftomorrow/

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  31. Doc Savage, Man of Bronze!! by JabberWokky · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I'm a tremendous fan of pulp era Science Fiction, back when a stout young Virginian could wish himself to Mars. Probably my favorite stories that would translate well to modern visual media are the Doc Savage stories.

    The real thing were written before physics was a respected scientific profession, and chemists and electricians were the cutting edge of technology. The World's Fair and the technological marvel of the Golden Gate Bridge are the settings for the Man of Bronze, a paragon of physical perfection raised by five scientists and flanked by his four comrades in arms, plus their pet monkey, pig and occasionally aided by Doc's sister.

    They are slices of a different age, a different outlook. The world was as full of sinister forces as the headlines of today, but the steadfast belief that honorable and well trained (and euro-caucasian) men could triumph over evil was held as a truism. Airplanes were new, the world had just become global, but war had yet to span the whole planet.

    Great books.

    I have a strong feeling that this movie is based more on the modern steampunk and Sons of Ether (a la White Wolf's Mage) genre. A modern retake on an era, just like RenFaires have little to do with the actual Middle Ages.

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  32. Wired Magazine Article by Standmic · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wired ran an article about Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow several months ago.

  33. Review? by rockhome · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This isn't a review, it is a few paragraphs about having seen the film.

    Is not a review a critical assessment of the films intentions and its success in achieving its aims?

    Why do articles like these get approved?

    Sometimes I think /. is trying to waste my time with worthless sci-fi sychophants and their crap about bad sci-fi(All of Star Trek).

  34. I'd almost completely forgotten! by PCM2 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Jeez! I'm a little amazed. I've been reading Slashdot regularly every day and somehow, without really realizing when it happened, I'd almost completely forgotten about Jon Katz. How can this be? I still remember how he used to make my blood boil with his pompous, sophomoric rants. And yet at some point I sort of started to chalk that up to the nature of the beast -- listening to children in grown-up bodies blabbering on like they wielded the authority of a BBC field correspondent was all part of the fun of Slashdot. Then he disappeared and ... could it be ... my Slashdot experience seems to be none the worse for wear! How can this have happened? How can I have so quickly forgotten all about Jon Katz's seminal contribution to Slashdot history, when it had given me so much bitter, perverse joy?

    Oh yeah... now I remember. That was about the time I started browsing at -1.

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  35. the simple answer... by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    is because it's hard.

    hollywood is kind of like the gymnasts in the olympics. you always want them to do a spectacular routine, they always wants to do a spectacular routine, they practice forever to do it right, but they can still screw up badly, even at the highest levels of competition. it's just plain HARD. and you can still fail on the easy stuff you know how to do in your sleep.

    there is just so many variables involved, and so many nuances of execution to keep track of, that hollywood will always be churning out bad movies.

    but look at it this way: there are no peaks without valleys. you can't have something seem great if you compare it against a bunch of other movies equally as great. you're a tough judge. we all are. if every movie was matrix-quality, then it stop impressing you as much as it did. so bad movies will be made, in a greater number than good movies, forever. it's statistical inevitability and human psychology conspiring together.

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  36. Re:Woo hoo! by xplenumx · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Yeah for the little guy.

    Don't they all start off as little guys?

  37. Re:How do you figure? by Zed2K · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Thats exactly right. Going to the movies is supposed to be a fun event. There is plenty of fun to be had in cheesy movies. When I go to see a movie I want to be entertained. Way too many people look at movies and take it way too seriously.

    Even movies that are flat out bad can be watched in such a state of mind that one can find fun in them (without chemical influences of course).

  38. Blue Screen Filming by Kenshin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What sets this film apart from others is that every scene was shot against a blue screen.

    The trouble is: It looks very much like that.

    Good use of blue screening results in the characters looking like they're "there". From the commercials I've seen of this movie, it reminds me of one of those old CD-ROM games where they mixed live actors and CG backgrounds.

    This one just doesn't work for me. It feels so artificial.

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  39. Yeah... by raehl · · Score: 4, Funny

    we need something that interests us, not just something that looks pretty.

    And you probably like women for their personality too. Wierdo.

  40. They finished it? Finally! by Animats · · Score: 3, Informative
    This was supposed to ship last June. Originally, Conran was trying to do the whole job with his own people in Canoga Park. The project was in deep trouble by last winter, and they were frantically outsourcing work to the usual effects houses (ILM, Pixel Liberation Front (hi!), Ring of Fire, etc.) ILM makes about half of their money bailing out productions in trouble.

    (Incidentally, this is why working with Hollywood is such a pain. Either you're in development hell, and there's no money, or you're in production, and and there's no time.)

    "Sky Captain" does look a bit too much like Crimson Skies. Microsoft has a line of Crimson Skies pulp fiction novels. that seem designed to be movies. Dreamworks optioned movie rights for Crimson Skies back in 2001, but didn't use the option.

  41. Re:Woo hoo! by sgant · · Score: 2, Funny

    The presenter, a filmmaking friend of Conran's, closed the screening with a joke about Pete Townshend meeting Eric Clapton in a London bar and commiserating about some new kid named Hendrix, "who's gonna kick our asses." He imagined that Spielberg and Lucas might soon be having a similar conversation somewhere in California.

    So in a couple of years Conran's going to die in a hotel room after a night of drinking?

    Well, the candle that burns twice as bright, burns out twice as fast...it's better to burn out, than to fade away...

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  42. Yay for the little guy?!!!! BZZZZZT! by Thud457 · · Score: 2, Funny
    This isn't a story you want to tell. It tears down everything our libertarian, DIY, hacker culture stands for!

    "Little guy with big ideas, can't bring them to fruition, needs to sell out to big media corps (TEH DEVIL!) to bring his dream to frution and expose it to the masses."


    Now, if he had self-published, set up a website and sold his own DVDs, now that would be worth trumpeting.

    This guy should be publicly flogged as a traitor, a collaborator with the evil corps! First against the wall when the revolution comes!

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  43. Tom Strong, modern and postmodern. by Scrameustache · · Score: 2, Informative
    I'm a tremendous fan of pulp era Science Fiction

    Then you should rather enjoy the adventures ofTom Strong, from America's Best Comics. Very good pulp.

    I have a strong feeling that this movie is based more on the modern steampunk and Sons of Ether (a la White Wolf's Mage) genre. A modern retake on an era

    There is a vocabulary used to discuss and analyse art, and by extension science fiction, that uses the words "modern" and "postmodern" that you might or might not be aware of.
    I don't want to go into a lenghty explanation of the differences, but basically, postmodern sci-fi is darker and recycles elements of past stories.

    Yes, "modern" means "contemporary", but art gave it another meaning:
    modern artistic or literary philosophy and practice; especially : a self-conscious break with the past and a search for new forms of expression

    And by opposition:
    Main Entry: postmodern
    Pronunciation: "pOs(t)-'mä-d&rn, ÷-'mä-d(&-)r&n
    Function: adjective
    : of, relating to, or being any of several movements (as in art, architecture, or literature) that are reactions against the philosophy and practices of modern movements and are typically marked by revival of traditional elements and techniques

    The fun with sky captain is that it looks like its got the retro modern feel to it: A sense of adventure and wonder, as opposed to the post modern weariness (post as in after that era of "modernism" ... using the word "modern" to refer to the past can be confusing, I know).

    So Sky Captain and Tom Strong are both postmodern, but they seek to reanimate the feel of their inspiration's modern attitude (the "gee whiz" feeling of the newness of things that are now retro to us).
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    1. Re:Tom Strong, modern and postmodern. by xethair · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is an artifact of fools who were so fixated with the now and contained by fashion that they failed to come up with any remotely descriptive label. I see no reason why we should continue to humor them, and it is certainly wrong to interject this kind of drivel just because someone used the word "modern" in a correct, natural, and perfectly clear way.

      using the word "modern" to refer to the past can be confusing, I know

      No, it's stupid. There's a difference. Confusing would be if it were hard to understand. It's not. Stupid would be like using the word modern to refer to the past.

  44. see for yourself by circletimessquare · · Score: 2, Informative
    http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2004/09/02/arts/2 0040905_TOPC_SLIDESHOW_1.html

    1. SKETCHING IT OUT
    As in traditional filmmaking, hand-drawn storyboards are used to guide the composition of a shot. This one was created in April 2002 as production began at a warehouse studio in Van Nuys, Calif. Look out, Polly, there's one behind you!

    2. FLESHING IT OUT
    The next step was this computer-animated version of the storyboard, called an animatic. Animatics serve as a rough draft for the animators, but they're also useful to the actors. With no set or robotic invaders to orient her, Gwyneth Paltrow could get a sense of the scene from the animatic.

    3. GET ME PALTROW
    Ms. Paltrow, costumed in Polly's slouchy hat and girl-reporter coat, acted the scene in front of a blue screen. The colored points of light behind her are "trackers," used to position her within the frame. She and the other actors were shot on high-definition digital film.

    4. GET ME BUILDINGS
    The animators combined photographs of actual New York City structures with computer-generated elements to create the streetscape, leaving space for the robot legs. The marquee features a little in-joke: "Wuthering Heights," another Olivier film -- one he made while alive.

    5. GET ME ROBOT
    The giant robots, inspired by both the Bauhaus aesthetic and early D.C. Comics, typify the movie's retro look. First the drawings were embellished with color, shadowing and other detail. Then a finishing process known as rendering gave them their photographic realism.

    6. NEARLY THERE
    The animators combined Ms. Paltrow and the computer elements in a composited black-and-white frame. Although the film is in color, it was initially conceived for black-and-white, and this step allowed the animators to approach the frame as a composition of light and shadow.

    7. PUTTING IT TOGETHER
    Drawing from the color in the live-action and animated components, the animators tinted the sequence, using a process similar to the one used to colorize old movies. Each scene in the film was given a distinct palette. For this, the filmmakers chose a muted, almost monochromatic scheme, to evoke the dark urban mood.

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  45. all the way back to "The Last Starfighter" by theghost · · Score: 5, Funny

    all the way back to "The Last Starfighter"

    all the way back to 1984?

    Never heard of Tron? 1982? CG all over the place?

    You whippersnappers with your fancy Angelina Jolie-la-di-da and Jude Law-la-di-doo! Back in my day, all we had was Jeff Bridges and Bruce Boxleitner in neon jumpsuits. And we liked it!

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    1. Re:all the way back to "The Last Starfighter" by tool462 · · Score: 2, Funny
      all the way back to 1984?

      1984? I think I remember that book. Was it really like that back then? I'll have to ask my mom. She's almost done packing my lunch for school today.

    2. Re:all the way back to "The Last Starfighter" by solios · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, but Tron's actual CG footage was farmed out to every fledgling computer graphics house in the area.

      TLS was rendered completely on a single Cray, and while some shots have a definite "atari" quality about them, some shots still hold their own, even today.

      Yeah, Tron might have been first to market, but TLS was, imo, a whole hell of a lot cooler. TLS is why I went to Art School and why I have a degree in Computer Animation.

      Of course, I spend my workdays subtitling video and being a linux bitch, but hey. That's the economy. A man can dream.

    3. Re:all the way back to "The Last Starfighter" by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I concur. Also, Tron seemed to throw in CGI scenes just because it could. For instance, while they are on a solar sail over some valley in the computer world, one of the characters points to the ground and says, "look, gridbugs!" Cut to a scene of little CGI bug critters puttering around a grid for a few seconds. Then they're gone. The gridbugs disappear. They had NOTHING to do with the story of the movie.

      The Last Starfighter had a lot more compelling features:

      1) Everything that looked like CGI in it was actually CGI. Tron had many, many sets that were made of wood and paint, and just painted to look like CGI.

      2) The CGI was used to simulate real-world objects. For instance, when the recruiter lands in his 'space car' the car is a prop constructed for use in the movie. Later on, this car flies into space and becomes a CGI effect seamlessly. (Of course, the careful observer can tell when it happens, but the CGI does look good.)

      3) General polish. Tron feels a lot like a tech demo. The Last Starfighter feels a lot like a movie, albeit a really cheesy one.

      Of course, neither of the movies were very good...

  46. Where's Katz? by Augusto · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He had the most inane and illogical opinions, but I really enjoyed his articles because they just generated levels of flaming and hilarity that are classic on slashdot.

    What happened to Katz? Why did he stop contributing to slashdot? Is he still talking about Columbine and geekdoom? Did he lear to use a computer?

    I wish slashdot would post an interview with him, I predict record page hits!

    Jon Katz we miss you, you sucked, but you are missed!

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    1. Re:Where's Katz? by kgp · · Score: 2, Informative
      Looks like he's writing about dogs now (wasn't he always? rimshot). He's obviously on a roll he's onto his second book:You can read an interview with John.

      Perhaps dealing with real dogs is easier than dealing with the Dogs of Slashdot.
  47. Re:Woo hoo! by Reducer2001 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Like a candle in the wind?

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  48. Angelina by serutan · · Score: 3, Informative

    The commercials overemphasize her role. She is actually only in it for about 15 minutes. Don't let it drive you away.

  49. Re:SciFi set in the past? by theAtomicFireball · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Actually, there's a whole genre... it's called SteamPunk. Not too much of it has made it to the big screen (especially live action) and what has hasn't been great (it's a tough concept to pull off) but it is far from a novel concept.

    If knowing something didn't actually happen makes a story worthless, we might as well just start throwing out the old SF from Vernes up to the early Clark, Asimov and Heinlein as well as all the historical fiction "littering" up our libraries and book stores.

  50. Princess of Mars, A (2006) by kulakovich · · Score: 3, Informative


    Princess of Mars, A (2006)

    Announced, and in production as of March 2004, my friends!

    And to start the rumors flying like a Sky Captain, I heard they are looking at Rena Sofer.

    kulakovich

  51. Re:Yay for the little guy?!!!! BZZZZZT! by eggegg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now, if he had self-published, set up a website and sold his own DVDs, now that would be worth trumpeting.

    Sadly, if he did that, few would have the opportunity to share in even a "corporatized" version of his vision simply because all the trumpeting in the world isn't enough to reach the masses.

    It's all about distribution.

  52. Re:Quick Question by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 4, Informative
    Yes, that's how Jules Verne wrote him.

    At one point in Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea, Nemo declares himself to be a native of India, who has lost his family and his homeland.

    He shows up again in The Mysterious Island, and although there are inconsistancies between the two books, we get a lot more information about him:

    Captain Nemo was an Indian, the Prince Dakkar, son of a rajah of the then independent territory of Bundelkund. His father sent him, when ten years of age, to Europe, in order that he might receive an education in all respects complete, and in the hopes that by his talents and knowledge he might one day take a leading part in raising his long degraded and heathen country to a level with the nations of Europe.

    From the age of ten years to that of thirty Prince Dakkar, endowed by Nature with her richest gifts of intellect, accumulated knowledge of every kind, and in science, literature, and art his researches were extensive and profound.

    He traveled over the whole of Europe. His rank and fortune caused him to be everywhere sought after; but the pleasures of the world had for him no attractions. Though young and possessed of every personal advantage, he was ever grave--somber even--devoured by an unquenchable thirst for knowledge, and cherishing in the recesses of his heart the hope that he might become a great and powerful ruler of a free and enlightened people.

    Still, for long the love of science triumphed over all other feelings. He became an artist deeply impressed by the marvels of art, a philosopher to whom no one of the higher sciences was unknown, a statesman versed in the policy of European courts. To the eyes of those who observed him superficially he might have passed for one of those cosmopolitans, curious of knowledge, but disdaining action; one of those opulent travelers, haughty and cynical, who move incessantly from place to place, and are of no country.

    The history of Captain Nemo has, in fact, been published under the title of "Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea." Here, therefore, will apply the observation already made as to the adventures of Ayrton with regard to the discrepancy of dates. Readers should therefore refer to the note already published on this point.

    This artist, this philosopher, this man was, however, still cherishing the hope instilled into him from his earliest days.

    Prince Dakkar returned to Bundelkund in the year 1849. He married a noble Indian lady, who was imbued with an ambition not less ardent than that by which he was inspired. Two children were born to them, whom they tenderly loved. But domestic happiness did not prevent him from seeking to carry out the object at which he aimed. He waited an opportunity. At length, as he vainly fancied, it presented itself.

    Instigated by princes equally ambitious and less sagacious and more unscrupulous than he was, the people of India were persuaded that they might successfully rise against their English rulers, who had brought them out of a state of anarchy and constant warfare and misery, and had established peace and prosperity in their country. Their ignorance and gross superstition made them the facile tools of their designing chiefs.

    In 1857 the great sepoy revolt broke out. Prince Dakkar, under the belief that he should thereby have the opportunity of attaining the object of his long-cherished ambition, was easily drawn into it. He forthwith devoted his talents and wealth to the service of this cause. He aided it in person; he fought in the front ranks; he risked his life equally with the humblest of the wretched and misguided fanatics; he was ten times wounded in twenty engagements, seeking death but finding it not, but at length the sanguinary rebels were utterly defeated, and the atrocious mutiny was brought to an end.

    Never before had the British power in India been exposed to such danger, and if, as they had hoped, the sepoys had received assistance from without, the influence and su

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  53. Angelina Jolie Naked (was Re: My Impressions...) by gbulmash · · Score: 2, Insightful
    If you want to see Angelina Jolie naked, there's some skin in Gia . Judging from it, Angelina has benefitted from "foundation garments" and body doubling in later roles.

    I also have to think that anyone who has dated a batshit crazy woman (ah, the good old days... when I could look beyond a woman's crumbling psyche and see the great rack inside), sees the downside in Angelina. Basically, I might want to do someone who looks like Angelina, but even just a night with that psycho might be more work than it's worth.

    - Greg

  54. Re:Woo hoo! by JaxGator75 · · Score: 2, Funny
    I'd be willing to bet about 1,000,000 geeks on the net can tell the same story, right up to the part where it worked and he'll be rich & famous...

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  55. Re:Yay for the little guy?!!!! BZZZZZT! by RexDart · · Score: 5, Insightful
    If your post was sarcastic, feel free to ignore this comment. That being said...

    It's easy to decry someone who 'sells out'. But why lambast someone who used the system to bring a dream to life?

    Gainsaying mainstream distribution by mplying traitorship to some imagined cause is silly. What's the cause in this case? Simply an artist's desire to bring his vision to life.

    To reach the masses, he cannot do this on his own. He either uses 'establishment' media channels or uses the internet, which despite the apparent chaos and freedom, still runs on a commercial backbone. He cannot show the world his vision without some medium (or media) to carry the message, who cares what path he takes? The important thing is that a man had a vision, and that vision was powerful (or at least compelling) enough to make the powers-that-be in the media industry sit up and take notice. Why should we not celebrate his success for what it is?

    If visionaries can make their visions seen, by hook (the internet) or by crook (big media) what more revolution do we need?

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  56. THEFT! by Monkeyfobia · · Score: 2, Funny

    Come on the main theme is stolen from stargate, how can a film be good if they steal music from other things!

    1. Re:THEFT! by objekt · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's not true that this is now the main theme.
      From the FAQ on imdb http://imdb.com/title/tt0346156/board/nest/1150995 3?d=11510088#11510088
      1) Why is the STARGATE theme in the teaser trailer? Why did they steal the music from Stargate? Will this movie have an original soundtrack?

      Because the trailer editor thought it envoked the right mood, and the Paramount marketing people didn't say, no and it wasn't too expensive to license. Its been used in other trailers, and there are Star Gate Freaks all over the internet freaking out on this for some reason.

      The score is one of the last parts of a film to be developed. A teaser trailer usually has to be released well before the composer has been able to do much work, if any.

      Music from Stargate has been used in the following trailers:

      Dragonheart (1995) - Theatrical Trailer
      Independence Day (1996) - Theatrical Trailer
      Jumanji (1995) - Theatrical Trailer
      Lost in Space (1998) - Theatrical Trailer
      The Man in the Iron Mask (1998) - Theatrical Trailer
      Mighty Joe Young (1998) - Theatrical Trailer
      The Mummy (1999) - Theatrical Trailer
      Volcano (1997) - Theatrical Trailer
      Warriors of Virtue (1997) - Theatrical Trailer
      Waterworld (1995) - Theatrical Trailer
      Mission to Mars (2000) - TV Trailer
      Titan A.E. (2000) - TV Trailer
      Dungeons & Dragons (2000) - Theatrical Trailer
      Deep Rising (1998) - TV Trailer
      The Time Machine (2002) - Theatrical Trailer
      Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron (2002) - TV Trailer
      Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow (2004) - Teaser Trailer

      The music is from the original Stargate movie, and was adapted for Stargate SG-1.
      It also features music from "Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within". (It's the music from Aki's dream sequence)

      They did not "steal" this music. It's called "licensing"
      The second trailer doesn't use the Stargate music.

      Yes, the movie will use original music composed by Ed Shearmur.
      It's getting rave reviews, and will be released Sept 7, 2004.
      You can listen to it here
      RealPlayer format: http://demand1.stream.aol.com/ramgen/aol/us/aolmus ic/artists/sony/various/skycaptainsoundtrack/vario us_skycaptainsoundtrack_lp.rm
      or
      http://mp.aol.c om/audio.main.adp?mxid=1153566

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      It may interest you to know that the Stargate movie "stole" the music for its own trailer :)

      from http://www.soundtrack.net/trailers/?cid=S&id=5 91

      Stargate (1994)
      "Rhythm of the Heat" - Peter Gabriel
      Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992) - Wojciech Kilar

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      -- Boycott Shell
  57. Give me a break! by objekt · · Score: 2, Informative

    The source material in Sky Captain is mostly old movie serials from over 50 years ago, NOT SOME STUPID VIDEO GAME OR DISNEY CARTOON FROM THE LAST TEN YEARS!

    Now if you were talking about the Fleischer Brothers' Superman Cartoon, MECHANICAL MONSTERS, from the '40s, then you'd be onto something.

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    -- Boycott Shell
  58. Re:Angelina Jolie Naked (was Re: My Impressions... by Enigma_Man · · Score: 2, Funny

    I also have to think that anyone who has dated a batshit crazy woman (ah, the good old days... when I could look beyond a woman's crumbling psyche and see the great rack inside)

    Brought back some memories here as well :) Now, I got me a logical woman *gasp, can it be true?*.

    -Jesse

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    Nothing says "unprofessional job" like wrinkles in your duct tape.
  59. Re:Yay for the little guy?!!!! BZZZZZT! by Oligonicella · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What a butt-load.

    Just because you haven't had an idea worth making into something significant, don't carp that this guy did.

    Dying alone and silent in idealism is nothing to hawk to the masses. Or even individuals.

  60. Angelina's small part, preview showing by adpowers · · Score: 2, Informative

    Exactly. From the few trailers for the movie I have seen, and the prominent placing they gave her name in the opening credits, I figured she would have a much larger part. The director mentioned she was only on the set filming for three days... hardly a major role.

    BTW, I went to the same preview showing you did (which was fun (and no previews!)). I had read about this movie a while ago (can no longer find the article online) and I thought it was an awesome premise and it was neat how the guy started it on his computer in his apartment before being picked up by the big boys. This is one of the few movies I actually looked forward to seeing and kept an eye on.

    One more thing to note, in one comment, someone mentioned that the studio demanded they bet bigger actors for the movie. I think the director said it was the other way around. They showed it to Jude Law, who got Paltrow involved, and then the studios took note. At least, that is what I thought he said.

    Andrew

    PS: Damn the Cinerama for no longer offering free refills on popcorn!

  61. ooh, look! by maxpublic · · Score: 2, Funny

    Look, boys and girls! It's geek cool to 'dis' popular music and listen to shitty garage bands, all the while claiming that in some mysterious fashion this raises your intellect to godlike proportions over the masses of sheep you egotistically look down on.

    And now we have something new! It's now cool to do the same thing to Angelina Jolie! Those same geeks who watched "Hackers" 67 times and jacked off wildly to every scene with Angelina in it now turn around and try to score points with their uber-arrogant crowd by claiming that Angelina Jolie, like "suxx0rs, d00d".

    You know, if it were legal to sterilize you little twits I'd be out there with a pair of nail clippers in a heartbeat, doing my part to clean up the gene pool.

    Max

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    My god carries a hammer. Your god died nailed to a tree. Any questions?
  62. Castle in the Sky / Laputa by dcmeserve · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I've only seen the TV trailers, but I get the distinct impression that the Miyazaki film "Castle in the Sky" served as the inspiration for the visuals. Not only in the blimp-battleships, but also those walking robots -- with the rope-like arms and the uneven eyes.

    I definitely need to see this movie, if nothing else than to check for more similarities. :)

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    "Orthodoxy is unconsciousness" - Orwell