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Honda Updates ASIMO

kosmicki writes "Honda Motor Co. today announced the development of new technologies for the next-generation ASIMO humanoid robot, targeting a new level of mobility that will better enable ASIMO to function and interact with people by quickly processing information and acting more nimbly in real-world environments."

232 comments

  1. anime meets reality by spac3manspiff · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Noooo, now its possible for galatic humanoid robot wars.

    1. Re:anime meets reality by spac3manspiff · · Score: 1

      Who the hell thought of "Posture Control"... I cant even control my posture

    2. Re:anime meets reality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hell, I can barely control my bladder with all this coffee.

  2. Homework? by tyman · · Score: 3, Funny

    Can it to my homework and clean my room for me yet?

    1. Re:Homework? by catalax · · Score: 1

      Arrgh! Ten bucks that this stupid comment will be modded +5 Funny!

    2. Re:Homework? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Can it to my homework and clean my room for me yet?

      Why would you want to do that?! After all no one else ever goes down to the basement anyway.

    3. Re:Homework? by Soko · · Score: 4, Funny

      Can it to my homework and clean my room for me yet?

      Sigh.

      I sincerely hope that the new ASIMO also includes a "Smack in the back of the head for being a dumbass" spell checker and a "Put a whuppin' on this kids sorry, lazy ass" module as well.

      Soko

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    4. Re:Homework? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a Calvin & Hobbes reference, I think.

    5. Re:Homework? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe it can teach you to spell first.

      Please spell check before posting. There is no need to rush to get the first post.

    6. Re:Homework? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      This is Slashdot! The correct sentence is:

      "Will is due my homework to?"

    7. Re:Homework? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must mean: "Not my homework it will do? Ayah!" Gotta pull the Yoda out on them.

    8. Re:Homework? by tarunthegreat2 · · Score: 1

      What you say? All your bad grammar are belong to us! Somebody set up us the Clippy!

    9. Re:Homework? by Jonboy+X · · Score: 2, Funny

      Homework? Bah! I'm waiting for the firmware hack that lets me send it to assassinate my enimies.

      That, or the fellatio adapter.

      C'mon, you know you were thinking it. That's why God invented midget hookers!

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    10. Re:Homework? by Xconnect · · Score: 0

      "Put a whuppin' on this kids sorry, lazy ass"

      ;-P

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    11. Re:Homework? by linders · · Score: 1

      Already here, I believe its called a mom

    12. Re:Homework? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ASIMOM?

    13. Re:Homework? by donbrock · · Score: 0
      Homework? Bah! I'm waiting for the firmware hack that lets me send it to assassinate my enimies.

      You want to ass your enema?

    14. Re:Homework? by Jonboy+X · · Score: 1

      Well, what do you do with *your* enemas? Did you even read the directions on the box?

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  3. I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    welcome our next-generation ASIMO overlords!

    1. Re:I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A firm what?

    2. Re:I for one... by tarunthegreat2 · · Score: 1

      I can't wait for the one which speaks with an Austrian accent and gets sent back in time...

  4. more realistic... by marshall_j · · Score: 2, Interesting

    sensors in the wrists to give people objects seems a bit like cheeting.

    if they want to make it seem more 'human' then get it to track the person it's interacting withs face with its head. that would up the realism heaps.

    1. Re:more realistic... by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      By "realistic" do you mean the "wet lettuce" style of hand shake?

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    2. Re:more realistic... by ThogScully · · Score: 1

      ASIMO isn't intended to be any kind of artificially intelligent robot. He's intended to be a demonstration of the motor skills that Honda can put in a robot. He's intended as a research demonstration of human-like motion, walking, running, etc.

      And that's enough work for Honda anyway. ASIMO is quite impressive if you've ever seen him. Someone else can continue to develop the artificial intelligence algorithms while they do this. This is what they are good at.
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    3. Re:more realistic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, I saw ASIMO demo'd in Dallas. One of the things that they are working on is facial recognition and tracking. They had a demo video (he didn't do it live) showing ASIMO recognize a person, and then take voice commands, one of which was "follow me". ASIMO followed them as they walked around quite successfully.

      How's that for realism?

  5. Imaging a beowulf cluster of Asimov! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    that's all I've got...

    1. Re:Imaging a beowulf cluster of Asimov! by MasterOfUniverse · · Score: 1

      yea, let us know when you are done imaging

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    2. Re:Imaging a beowulf cluster of Asimov! by eric_brissette · · Score: 0
      What? no ASIMO Type-R joke?

      And it'll be called ASIMO TypeR, with such dealer options as:
      • Ground effects kit!
      • Constant fart sounds!
      • Blinky Lights!
      • Stickers!
      • Nitrous Oxide System! (pronounced NAWZZZ)
      • Big honkin' whale tale aluminum wing!
  6. I could use these too... by cmeans · · Score: 4, Funny
    From the article:

    Key technologies include:
    1) "Posture Control" technology* making it possible to run in a natural human-like way
    2) "Autonomous Continuous Movement" technology enabling flexible route to destination
    3) Enhanced visual and force sensor technologies enabling smoother interaction with people

    These are all things I need too...maybe I can get an upgrade.

  7. Time for a Butlerian Jihad by michaeldot · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't know about you, but I for one do NOT welcome our humanoid robotic 3 kph overlords.

    1. Re:Time for a Butlerian Jihad by UniverseIsADoughnut · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm waiting for the first ASIMO to get on one of those Toyota Walker things from a few weeks ago. Robot riding a robot while killing us all, and with a Hello Kitty theme to the horror.

    2. Re:Time for a Butlerian Jihad by dcstimm · · Score: 1

      umm its MPH!!!! God Damn You Metric System!!!!!

    3. Re:Time for a Butlerian Jihad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Imagine ASIMO riding a Segway...

    4. Re:Time for a Butlerian Jihad by upsidedown_duck · · Score: 1


      I'd love to see a re-make of Aliens with Hello Kitty as Ripley.

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    5. Re:Time for a Butlerian Jihad by UniverseIsADoughnut · · Score: 1

      How about an ASIMO riding a toyota walker thing, that is riding a segway.

    6. Re:Time for a Butlerian Jihad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's kph? Don't you mean km/h perhaps? (What's the use of going metric if you don't go all the way?)

    7. Re:Time for a Butlerian Jihad by GTRacer · · Score: 1
      Ever seen this fanfic? It's not exactly what you're looking for, but it does involve much human killing by a certain feline...

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  8. Anyone... by JavaMoose · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Anyone in the Robotics/Automation industry, I have a question.

    Does the ASIMO actually advance the field of robotics? Does it come out with revolutionary advances, or just build on those of others?

    I don't mean to take anything away from the ASIMO, it's pretty slick, but is it a beacon or a distraction for "real" robotics?

    1. Re:Anyone... by superpulpsicle · · Score: 1

      It looks almost like you are saying ASIMO is not a true innovation. And that you are trying to say ASIMO is just a packaging of existing innovations.

    2. Re:Anyone... by jm92956n · · Score: 1

      It's certainly an impressive piece of technology, but it's definitely not the pinnaclce of robotics. It's newsworthy primarily because it's in humanoid form, and if there's anything I've learned from 1950's sci-fi, it's that everyone wants their own little robot butler.

      ASIMO is, at most, a PR move. "Look! We can build an incredible robot! Imagine how great our automobiles must be!"

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    3. Re:Anyone... by DigitalRaptor · · Score: 1

      I think Honda and the Japanese in general are making great strides with robotics.

      ASIMO in particular may be more of a way to show off than the breeding itself, but I don't think this is just a case of Honda stealing everyone elses tech and packaging it.

      If any other single entity was capable of making a robot as polished as ASIMO we'd be seeing it. And we're not.

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    4. Re:Anyone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm someone in the robotics field, and yes it does, the same way everything in all research fields improves: gradually.

      ASIMO provides a solid platform for researching humanoid motion control, mechanisms for humanoid robots, human-robot interaction, and robot-environment interaction. The researchers who work on it make advances in all these areas, just like the researchers who work on the Qrio, or any other robotic platform make advances in their areas.

      Being a handy marketing tool is merely a side benefit of developing all these technologies that will be extremely useful in the future when Honda wants to be a big player in the robotics industry. It's called "thinking longterm."

    5. Re:Anyone... by DigitalRaptor · · Score: 1

      Err, make that "than the breeding ground itself"...

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    6. Re:Anyone... by gordo3000 · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure about the answer to your question, but I would say even if it is putting lots of technologies together, its still difficult to do. I"m sure its as hard as getting all the parts of a complex computer program to work together when they were developed separately. Look at all the problems we see with OS's when soemthing new is added.

      But from what I have read, it seems a lot of hte advances are home grown for ASIMO.

    7. Re:Anyone... by dubious9 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As I gathered from a discovery channel program about robots, ASIMO is revolutionary in it's advanced bipedal movement. Walking on two legs is an extremely difficult problem to engineer, and it took Honda billions of dollars to develop a robot that could do it.

      It might not have been the first, but it sure is state of the art, and helps in advancing human-like automotons. IIRC it was the first robot that could walk like a human and climb stairs, but somebody correct me if I'm wrong. Therefore, as far as I can tell, it's not a marketing ploy or toy, but world-leading research into true "android" like locomotion.

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    8. Re:Anyone... by dubious9 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's newsworthy primarily because it's in humanoid form

      As I replied below, replicating human form and movement is a tremendously difficult engineering task. A PR move? I don't think so. I believe I've heard that honda is planning to move human-like robots into their factories to revolutionize efficiency. General purpose robots that can move like humans and react intellegently to narrow tasks could drive down manufacturing costs through the floor.

      Plus they are doing world-leading research on the advancement of human-like movement. Sorry if I sound like a fanboy, but they've put little advertizing dollars into it for it to be a PR move. However, they've spent billions developing it. They sure expect that investment to pay off down the line. I'm not sure I blame them.

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    9. Re:Anyone... by upsidedown_duck · · Score: 1

      I believe I've heard that honda is planning to move human-like robots into their factories to revolutionize efficiency.

      There are reports that on-the-job sex actually boosts productivity. Just put a few finishing touches on ASIMO...

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    10. Re:Anyone... by redcone · · Score: 1

      Though it has few, if any, practical applications it is designed to be a research platform and as such it is state of the art. It is an integration of several very advanced subsystems. It should be noted that while Honda is committing hundreds of millions of dollars to its robotics research, the toy RoboSapien sells for less than $100 and shows amazing bipedal mobility. It creator mark tilden recently said. "The Japanese spent half a billion dollars on a robot that might one day clean a toilet. For that kind of money I could hire bill gates as my pool boy" Shameless plug...visit my website for more on the state of robot research around the world

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    11. Re:Anyone... by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      "but they've put little advertizing dollars into it for it to be a PR move."

      Anybody in the advertising/PR industry is going "well duh!" right now. Allow me to explain. PR consists of non-advertising communications. Typically free things, like press releases etc. You don't "spend money" on it like you would for advertising, although you still pay for the services of a PR firm you might use.

      Which is why PR is so valuable, its free word of mouth.

      But you make good points about their ultimate plans with the robots. They would NOT be undertaking such an endeavor if they didn't think it would payoff majorly for the company in the long run. I see no reason why Honda won't be one of, if not the main provider of robots in the future.

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    12. Re:Anyone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hah! Longterm thinking! Are you crazy! Longterm thinking has no meaning in the US =P

    13. Re:Anyone... by FleaPlus · · Score: 2, Informative

      Here's some related research papers:

      http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=asimo

    14. Re:Anyone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Honda may turn out to be a provider of consumer robotics at some point in the future, ...But Sony is THE provider of consumer robotics RIGHT NOW!

      Aibo has been on the market (i.e. selling to consumers) for over 5 years now. Sony's BiPedal Robot, QRIO, probably has more chance of becoming a "consumer product" than ASIMO ever will.

    15. Re:Anyone... by caranha · · Score: 1

      Hah! Longterm thinking! Are you crazy! Longterm thinking has no meaning in the US =P

      That's why these are news from Japan :-D

    16. Re:Anyone... by u-238 · · Score: 1

      It's Japanese. And you are foolish enough to bother asking if it merely "just builds on those of others" ...

    17. Re:Anyone... by u-238 · · Score: 1

      If any other single entity was capable of making a robot as polished as ASIMO we'd be seeing it. And we're not.

      Japanese fanboy much? I wonder if the same could be said for lap pillows, or a boyfriend's arm pillow?

      But seriously though, I think it's good that you brough that up, because it's precisely the point that needs to be made and clarified: what they're doing can easily be done in Europe or America with engineering rigor and time, but, ask yourself, why? Are we at a point in history where we could forego the proletariat and replace him with a robot? In an era such as this with population ever increasing and medical science lenthening the avg lifespan as never before in history.

      Suffice to say this is a classic and stereotypical example of the Japanese interpritation of ingenuity.

    18. Re:Anyone... by FleaPlus · · Score: 1

      If any other single entity was capable of making a robot as polished as ASIMO we'd be seeing it. And we're not.

      You mean like Sony's QRIO? It's a significantly smaller robot, but I can't think of a single thing ASIMO does which it doesn't do, and several things ASIMO can't do that QRIO can.

  9. Honda Reveals Technologies for Next-Generation ASI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

    of course a site called japancorp would never die to /. effect but just in case:

    Tokyo, Japan, Dec 15, 2004 - (JCN Newswire) - Honda Motor Co., Ltd. (TSE: 7267) today announced the development of new technologies for the next-generation ASIMO humanoid robot, targeting a new level of mobility that will better enable ASIMO to function and interact with people by quickly processing information and acting more nimbly in real-world environments.

    Key technologies include:
    1) "Posture Control" technology* making it possible to run in a natural human-like way
    2) "Autonomous Continuous Movement" technology enabling flexible route to destination
    3) Enhanced visual and force sensor technologies enabling smoother interaction with people

    1.Posture Control technology:
    The combination of newly developed high-response hardware and the new Posture Control technology enables ASIMO to proactively bend or twist its torso to maintain its balance and prevent the problems of foot slippage and spinning in the air, which accompany movement at higher speeds. ASIMO is now capable of running at a speed of 3km/hour. In addition, walking speed has been increased from the previous 1.6 km/hour to 2.5 km/hour.

    2.Autonomous Continuous Movement technology:
    The next-generation ASIMO can maneuver toward its destination without stopping by comparing any deviation between the input map information and the information obtained about the surrounding area from its floor surface sensor. Moreover, ASIMO can now autonomously change its path when its floor surface sensor and visual sensors located in its head detect obstacles.

    3.Enhanced visual sensor and force sensor technologies allow for smoother interaction with people:
    By detecting people's movements through visual sensors in its head and force (kinesthetic) sensors which have been newly added to its wrists, ASIMO can now move in sync with people allowing it to give or receive an object, shake hands in concert with a person's movement and step forward or backward in response to the direction its hand is pulled or pushed.

    By continuing to advance these new technologies, Honda will pursue development of an ASIMO that will be useful to people.

    --Key specifications of the new model:
    1. Running speed: 3km/hour (airborne time: 0.05 second)
    2. Normal walking speed: current model 1.6km/hour --- new model 2.5km/hour
    3. Height: 130cm (current model: 120cm)
    4. Weight: 54kg (current model 52kg)
    5. Continuous operating time: 1hour (current model 30 min)
    6. Operating degrees of freedom: Total 34 degrees of freedom (current model: Total 26)

    --Hip rotational joint: Increased walking speed was achieved by the proactive rotation of the hips in addition to swinging of the arms, which cancel the reaction force generated when the legs swing forward during running or walking.
    --Wrist bending joint: Due to two additional axes in each wrist, the movement of the wrist area is more flexible.
    --Thumb joint: Previously, one motor operated all five fingers. With addition of a motor that operates the thumb independently, ASIMO can now hold objects of various shapes.
    --Neck joint: With an additional axis added to its neck joint, ASIMO's expressiveness has been enhanced.

    *More about the new Posture Control technology:
    In order to realize "running," two major obstacles had to be overcome. One was an accurate leap and the absorption of the landing impact, and the second was prevention of the slipping and spinning which accompany movement at higher speeds.

    1. Accurate leap and absorption of landing impact:
    In order to run, a robot has to be able to repeat the movements of pushing off the ground, swinging its legs forward, landing within a very short time cycle and without any delay, absorbing the instantaneous impact shock of landing. With a newly developed high-speed processing circuit, highly-responsive and high-power motor drive unit, in addition to light-weight and highly rigid leg structure, Ho

  10. Still with the helmet? by TheShadowHawk · · Score: 3, Funny

    Looks like they are slowly getting better..

    Should be interesting once the robots start looking like Robin Williams or (gasp!) Haley Joel Osment.

    Hmm..

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    1. Re:Still with the helmet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      yeah, and it should get really interesting when they look like Natalie Portman

    2. Re:Still with the helmet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Still with the helmet?

      In most states, it's the law.

    3. Re:Still with the helmet? by KinkifyTheNation · · Score: 0

      Or even Chii

    4. Re:Still with the helmet? by michaeldot · · Score: 1

      Robin Williams?!

      When you have it look like Miss Digital World

    5. Re:Still with the helmet? by TheShadowHawk · · Score: 1

      Oh yes.. that is much better!

      Hmm now that you mention it.. maybe get the inner workings of an asimo but make the shell look a bit like one of these dolls...

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    6. Re:Still with the helmet? by IO+ERROR · · Score: 1
      Should be interesting once the robots start looking like Robin Williams or (gasp!) Haley Joel Osment.

      How about the robot that looks like Dick Clark that we're going to need shortly?

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    7. Re:Still with the helmet? by EEBaum · · Score: 1
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  11. Videos by r_glen · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can see videos of Asimo in action (including his new "tricks") at the Honda site.

    1. Re:Videos by menem · · Score: 1

      Give him a blaster, and Asimo could do a really good stormtrooper impression.

    2. Re:Videos by Scrameustache · · Score: 1, Offtopic
      videos of Asimo

      You deserve your +5 informative, but you could have warned us that they were streams. I started about 6 of 'em in tabs before I realised what I had done.

      And off course, everytime the robot starts doing something interresting the video stream craps out for 2 seconds. It sure SOUNDS like he's doing something neat.

      Man I hate streaming, why do people do this? Hate, is it hate of mankind? Some kind of irrational need to let people know there's something cool to see, but not actually letting them see it...

      /rant

      P.S. Hey, what gives, since when can't you put in "greater than" and "smaller than" signs on slashdot? My rant tag looks all crappy now : (

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    3. Re:Videos by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 1

      In the drop down menu next to preview, select "Plain Text"

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    4. Re:Videos by Saeger · · Score: 1
      Man I hate streaming, why do people do this?

      Because they think streaming lets them keep control of their precious content - apparently they've never heard of stream ripping.

      Streaming should only be used for live stuff, or when you want people to be able to randomly seek large files...

      P.S. > == &gt; and < == &lt; or use <ecode>

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    5. Re:Videos by timealterer · · Score: 1

      You can also see some cool videos of Sony's similar QRIO robot on their website (warning - RealPlayer format only). QRIO is smaller and more nimble, making 'him' arguably more interesting to watch. Nothing against ASIMO of course!

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    6. Re:Videos by danila · · Score: 1

      Those fuckers deserve to die, that's true. However, you need not to despair - there is hope. NetTransport and the like work greatly for streaming WMV, MOV, RM, etc. And even this FLV (Flash Video) abomination that Honda uses can be defeated. Download URL Helper (serial) to monitor what URLs are requested by the browser (AtGuard! firewall also works, other programs may have this functionality too). Open the flash in the browser. Check out the link to the flv file. Download it. Now download the FLV Local Player. Voila! You can download these Flash videos and you can play them locally. If you'd like to use them for anything, you only need to download any of the screen recorder programs, that are plentiful on the Net.

      Hope this helps.

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  12. I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I for one welcome our robot overloards with great posture and a firm grip.

  13. Honda? by Dipster · · Score: 1

    Anybody else find it amusing that a car company is the world leader in huminoid robotics?

    1. Re:Honda? by meganthom · · Score: 1

      You see, the idea is to make robots better drivers than we are. Then, when you buy your new Accord, for a "small" upgrade, you'll get a chauffeur!

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    2. Re:Honda? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just wait until an American car company builds one. Bigger, better! Horrible mileage.

    3. Re:Honda? by gordo3000 · · Score: 2, Informative

      well, a trading card company became the leader in video games(Nintendo). Every company evolves by what it sees open to it. They both are kind of surprising, but I am sure there are loads more examples.

    4. Re:Honda? by BobPaul · · Score: 1

      And Xerox made the Laser printer, GUI, and computer mouse...

      Maybe that's the difference between Japanese and American companies... American companies give up and stick to photocopiers.

    5. Re:Honda? by linoleo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And what makes you think ASIMO represents "world leadership" in humanoid robotics?

      From a scientific point of view, ASIMO is an expensive glitzy remote-controlled toy that doesn't tell us much at all about humanoid (as in fluent and efficient) sensorimotor coordination. Take humanoid locomotion: it's based on coupled oscillator dynamics, and letting the physics of the body do much of the work for you. ASIMO doesn't do that at all.

      For an example of real "world leadership" in robot (in this case: quadruped) locomotion, check out these videos. Less glitzy but way more interesting.

      The most amusing aspect of an ASIMO demo is (or at least used to be last time I watched) the half-dozen Japanese engineers hovering nearby in order to fling themselves under their million-dollar toy in case it should keel over.

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    6. Re:Honda? by Jonavin · · Score: 1

      Honda is a very forward thinking company though. They used to only make mopeds, now they make cars and trucks. They even have jets in the works.

    7. Re:Honda? by infinite_improbabili · · Score: 1

      Sure, but the quadruped will never be able to do the moonwalk while simultaneously grabbing at its crotch shouting "SHAMONE, HEE HEEEE!"

    8. Re:Honda? by linoleo · · Score: 1

      Sure, but you can get that kind of thing much cheaper from a RoboSapien.

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    9. Re:Honda? by mOoZik · · Score: 1

      You're just a moron, aren't you? ASIMO is REVOLUTIONARY and BREAKTHROUGH technology. It isn't a toy and it certainly isn't anything less than amazing. Open your eyes, jackass.

    10. Re:Honda? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? BMW used to make aircraft engines before they made cars. Companies evolve or die just like everything else in this world

    11. Re:Honda? by linoleo · · Score: 1

      And as EVERYBODY knows, ANYTHING written in CAPITALS is ABSOLUTELY true. Lay off the caffeine & caps lock, dOoDe.

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    12. Re:Honda? by narl · · Score: 1

      Actually, it makes tons of sense compared to the fact that Toyota was originally a textiles company.

    13. Re:Honda? by narl · · Score: 1

      He's right. Until Asimo appeared, there were no self-balancing two-legged robots. American universities had given up on the idea. It took the Japanese to come along and prove it can be done, and now every electronics club in Japan has their own bipedal robot. I still haven't seen a working self-balancing bipedal robot of American design (unless you want to count the Segway).

    14. Re:Honda? by narl · · Score: 1

      Can the robosapien stand back up after you knock it over, like the QRIO?

    15. Re:Honda? by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      humanoid (as in fluent and efficient)

      Humanoid means "shaped like a human".

      Take humanoid locomotion: it's based on coupled oscillator dynamics, and letting the physics of the body do much of the work for you. ASIMO doesn't do that at all.

      Humanoid locomotion means bipedal with the legs bending backwards. Asimo does that, Asimo was the first to do that. And that is why it's the "world leader" in humanoid robotics.

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    16. Re:Honda? by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Micro Soft started out making devices to change streetlights if I remember correctly.

    17. Re:Honda? by linoleo · · Score: 1

      Humanoid means "shaped like a human".

      Wrong, it means "like a human", no reference to shape involved. What you're thinking of is "anthropomorphic".

      ASIMO is anthropomorphic but doesn't have a truly humanoid gait (yet).

      Asimo was the first to do that.

      You mean "the first I heard about". ASIMO has certainly done much to popularize the field, but - and I quote - "One of the first functioning bipedal robots was developed in the 1970s by Kato (Kato and Tsuiki, 1972)." ()

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    18. Re:Honda? by linoleo · · Score: 1

      Here's the missing link, sorry. Check before you post, duh.

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    19. Re:Honda? by linoleo · · Score: 1

      Until Asimo appeared, there were no self-balancing two-legged robots.

      Honda themselves disagree, never mind that there also have always been a number of (little-known) academic research projects around the world in this area since the 60s.

      American universities had given up on the idea.

      Oh, is that why MIT started work on M2 in 1998, two years before ASIMO came out?

      Look, I do not deny that ASIMO has captured the public's imagination and done a great deal to popularize this field. However, it wasn't the first to do much of anything, it's just (along with Qrio) the most lavishly funded and hence prettiest show-off biped.

      I still haven't seen a working self-balancing bipedal robot of American design

      Well now you have. You're welcome.

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      Be faithful to your obsessions. Identify them and be faithful to them, let them guide you like a sleepwalker. JG Ballard
    20. Re:Honda? by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      Humanoid means "shaped like a human".

      Wrong, it means "like a human", no reference to shape involved. What you're thinking of is "anthropomorphic".


      No, what I'm thinking of is "Human" + the greek suffix "oid" (-oid resembling, like, shaped)

      ASIMO is anthropomorphic but doesn't have a truly humanoid gait (yet).

      How would you know, the last time you looked at it it either was the old astronaut-sized model, or some other robot (Toyota's walker prototype?) who also had nervous japanese techs around it.

      Anyway, it does.

      You mean "the first I heard about".

      You really, really suck at guessing what I mean. Your reading comprehension skills need some honing.

      I might have meant "the first to walk up stairs" though...

      "One of the first functioning bipedal robots was developed in the 1970s by Kato (Kato and Tsuiki, 1972)."

      No mention of how those legs went about, and I'm pretty damn sure that this thing was a thetered monstrosity, not a humanoid, independant robot like Asimo.

      Anyway, just go see the damn movies of the latest Asimo model someone else posted, it's streaming, but you need to stop blasting somthing you haven't even looked at.

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      You can't take the sky from me...

  14. Hondas Master Plan by ThomasFlip · · Score: 1

    To be like the company in I-ROBOT ? Probably not, but kind of a scary thought.

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    If the dollar is an "I owe you nothing", then the Euro is a "Who owes you nothing." - Doug Casey
  15. Asimo == remote controlled toy by Goosey · · Score: 1

    Please correct me if I am wrong, but...

    I was under the impression that Asimo is remote-controlled. I suppose it is a pretty slick remote-controlled toy, but I think a large part of the Asimo scheme is just conning the world into believing they have something really amazing: AI that advanced.

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    --- "End Of Line" - MCP
    1. Re:Asimo == remote controlled toy by michaeldot · · Score: 1

      The videos suggest that it is autonomous, as in one of them it doesn't respond the first time, and sometimes it seems a bit sluggish in comprehending.

      If they were faking it, I feel they would do a better job.

    2. Re:Asimo == remote controlled toy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you are correct, however, it does appear to have some cool AI.

      Also, once AI gets a boost they will have a perfect body to place it in.

    3. Re:Asimo == remote controlled toy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps a bit of both?

      "P3 was only controlled from a workstation, but ASIMO can also be operated from a portable controller to allow flexible walking control and motions from button operations (gesticulations). This permits more direct operation of ASIMO."

      http://world.honda.com/ASIMO/technology/operatio n. html

    4. Re:Asimo == remote controlled toy by BobPaul · · Score: 1

      Asimo's been in the works for a while. It's been autonomous since the P3 (not pentium) in 1993.

      Check out their history.

    5. Re:Asimo == remote controlled toy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      It's remote controlled in the sense that it won't aquire conscience and decide what it will do. On the other hand, you can give high-level orders to it and it will do a reasonable job of doing that, overcoming a significant number of problems that could be involved. For example, I imagine you can program it to follow a person in a room and it will:

      track the position of the person and walk behind it being carefull not to step over her

      get around obstacles on its way

      climb and descend stairs and overcome other terrain irregularities

      etc at least that's what I could figure from the stuff you can read over the web.

  16. how much are these bad boys? by dubiousmike · · Score: 1

    where and how do I get one?

  17. Just Cartman by Peter+Cooper · · Score: 1

    It's just Cartman in that robot. Butters befriends it, takes it to Hollywood, and it comes up with all the latest and greatest movie ideas.

  18. If it worked, what would you use it for? by QuantumG · · Score: 1

    I've got a dishwasher. Maybe it's old or something but it really doesn't get the dishes 50% as clean as when I do the washing up myself (and my g/f says I don't do it 25% as well as she does).. but we still use it, cause if you've got a dishwasher who wants to do dishes? Now stacking the dishwasher, that's a freakin' chore. You can't just put the dishes into the dishwasher as you make them either, cause you're only ever get four or five dishes into there before you run out of space. It's a bin packing problem isn't it? Or napsack or something.

    You wouldn't expect ASIMO to be able to do the dishes manually, it wouldn't have the dexterity and I'm sure all that polished metal would rust if you got it wet, but maybe it could stack the dishwasher for you. If it could go around the lounge room and pick up all the dirty plates that would be better.

    Oh, and it could take the trash out, and do vacuuming. You know those hocky puck lookin' vaccumin' robots? Damn those things are loud. Supposedly people turn them on when they go out of the house (or it turns itself on when no-one is around or something) but that's not exactly a lot of good for people who don't go out much. Maybe ASIMO could do a little more user friendly vacuuming. It could pick stuff up and dust under it for example.

    That's it.

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    1. Re:If it worked, what would you use it for? by michaeldot · · Score: 1

      All I'll say is that I didn't come onto Slashdot to read about dishwashing and vacuuming!

      Jeez, you've become more wussified than Solo post-Greedo.

      I just hope more geeks stay celibate if THAT'S what getting a girlfriend means!

      PS :)

    2. Re:If it worked, what would you use it for? by michaeldot · · Score: 1

      Oh, I forgot to mention that Asimo would be quite good for bomb disposal.

    3. Re:If it worked, what would you use it for? by QuantumG · · Score: 1

      Yeah, cause I've got a LOT of bombs that need disposing. The ultimate intent of ASIMO is to be a perfect little slave. Maybe your life is hard but I've pretty much got no slavin' jobs that need doing. Maybe I need to get me a cotton field or something.

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      How we know is more important than what we know.
  19. YOU COULD ALSO USE AN UPGRADE... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in your ability to destroy dogs in a humane and efficient manner. There are just too many of them, so something needs to be done. When there are too many deer that they overpopulate themselves, we hunt them. We should do the same for dogs. Euthanasia is expensive... we have no cheap way of humanely destroying a larger animal in mass.

    1. Re:YOU COULD ALSO USE AN UPGRADE... by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      "we have no cheap way of humanely destroying a larger animal in mass." - Ever worked in an abattoir?

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    2. Re:YOU COULD ALSO USE AN UPGRADE... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you must have missed the "humanely" comment or you are not too aware of slaughterhouses....

    3. Re:YOU COULD ALSO USE AN UPGRADE... by Fuz_42 · · Score: 0

      In your brain. Tell me just what you lame environmental post, had to do with Honda's robotics development? We could build a robot to gently club the animals to death. Or maybe many people take the same approach I do. I need the long range target practice on the farm...

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    4. Re:YOU COULD ALSO USE AN UPGRADE... by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      "Short, sharp, shock, they don't feel a thing" - Pink Floyd.

      --
      And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
  20. DAMNIT!!! by 9mm+Censor · · Score: 0

    I want my robot to have machine guns!!!

    1. Re:DAMNIT!!! by EEBaum · · Score: 1

      And D Cups Full of Justice!!!!!

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  21. Honda vs Sony by IANAAC · · Score: 2, Informative
    I recently saw a demo of Sony's Qrio dream robot. I haven't seen Honda's demo, other than the videos on their web page, but Sony's seems to be a bit more intuitive with movements and interaction, particularly head movement. And it jumps and throws too.

    Overall, it just seems a bit smoother.

    1. Re:Honda vs Sony by davidescott · · Score: 1

      Keep in mind that Qrio is a lot smaller. If you account for the difficulties of the extra weight ASIMO carries around with it I suspect they come out roughly equal.

    2. Re:Honda vs Sony by tarunthegreat2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Qrio is just a step up from Aibo, though...I've actually worked with AIBO (development for my senior yr CS project - all the APIs are written in C++!). It was pretty decent. I think Sony and Honda are approaching the issue from different angles though - if you check out Honda's site, you'll see that they've been working on 'walking' bots for while now, where as Sony kind of started out with other stuff..

    3. Re:Honda vs Sony by narl · · Score: 1
      As I understand it, the Honda one has been explicitly designed from the beginning with an eye towards doing useful work alongside humans in Honda's factories, while the Qrio has been designed as an evolutionary advance over the Aibo, with no intention of it being anything but a toy yet.

      Both may yet evolve into something useful, but we'll have to wait and see which approach works better.

  22. nice and smooth! by mm0mm · · Score: 2, Interesting

    movement of new asimo looks very fluid. check out him running and chasing a Japanese chick. it is incredible. this made me wonder if someone would begin using robots in the medical field in the next decade or so.

    1. Re:nice and smooth! by michaeldot · · Score: 4, Funny

      movement of new asimo looks very fluid ... chasing a Japanese chick

      Oh dear, so it's come to this. Geeks don't even bother chasing girls themselves, they program their robots to do it.

    2. Re:nice and smooth! by Crimsane · · Score: 0

      Excerpt from the a Honda Engineer's autobiography:

      One day, many years ago, I was visiting the scottish isle, and happened to wander by a local collie herding some sheep into a nearbye pen. I thought to myself "what a great idea ...

    3. Re:nice and smooth! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      TRUE geeks build their own robot girlfriends that don't need chasing.

  23. Asimo, Asimov...yep... by ulatekh · · Score: 1

    I think you're right...

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    "Once we've identified and embraced our sickness, we'll have strength...and that's when we get dangerous." - John Waters
  24. One step closer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are we one step closer to having Mechs' ala MechWarrior? After all, Honda's a vehicle manufacturer and getting bipedal propulasion seems to be the missing technology to fulfil it.

    1. Re:One step closer... by phillymjs · · Score: 1

      Are we one step closer to having Mechs' ala MechWarrior?

      No, but between ASIMO's upgrades and these robots that can power themselves by "eating" organic material, we're two steps closer to having the Matrix-- or would that be, two steps closer to the Matrix having us?

      ~Philly

    2. Re:One step closer... by dabigpaybackski · · Score: 1
      Are we one step closer to having Mechs' ala MechWarrior?

      Well, there's the Ingram Model '98, but all you get with it is a 25mm revolver with the optional pump shotgun. You *can* get the newer Type '00, but I heard those are a little twitchy--there's supposedly some bad code in the new operating system or something.

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    3. Re:One step closer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the robots in the "Matrix" could have eaten organic material, they wouldn't have needed to build the much less efficient Matrix, which works by feeding humans organic material, and then harvesting the lost thermal energy. Better to extract energy from the organic material directly.

    4. Re:One step closer... by dbacher · · Score: 1

      No.

      Mechs have no practical value, and so you will never see anything resembling the monsters in Battletech/Mechwarrior.

      Something the size of a mech has enough mass that inertia makes it impractical to make any reasonable, sudden movement. Even if you assume electronic jamming, a simple dumb fire missle with no electronics could hit with enough force to knock the thing out.

      So no, don't expect to ever see anything like mechwarrior.

      Even concepts like Patlabor are questionable.

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  25. ASIMO by F13 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    in case anyone was wondering is, Advanced Step in Innovative Mobility
    see here although It may just be a name now.

    There is also a time line for ASIMO at Honda.co.jp(japanese) but you can see a graphical history of it here

    1. Re:ASIMO by michaeldot · · Score: 1

      Riiiight... Nothing to do with Isaac at all. Pure coincidence!

    2. Re:ASIMO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Yeah that's probably true. I don't believe in coincidences, but it is still written in capitals, denoting some form of acronym.

      I guess they could I just come up with an acronym that fit the name Asimov. A bit like: 'The Committee for the Liberation and Integration of Terrifying Organisms and their Rehabilitation Into Society'. i.e. 'CLITORIS'. another red dward ref

    3. Re:ASIMO by Game_Ender · · Score: 1

      Does that video give you the shivers. Not the bad kind but the good kind. The way it moves and checks out the environment looks very real. Very much like a young child looking around and trying to figure things out. I suppose the next trick is to give a weapon and have it search and destroy (as least once you get that running speed up to 18 kph).

    4. Re:ASIMO by phaggood · · Score: 0

      18kph

      Okay folks, put on your futurist hats and try to predict when Honda's droid will become a gold-winning Olympic sprinter.

      Then, how many months after that will we see it on 'Cops' running down perps?

    5. Re:ASIMO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, right, they were going to name it ASIMOV but removed the V because they thought it was too pretentious...

    6. Re:ASIMO by XPisthenewNT · · Score: 1

      Did you look at the link? Prototype 1 already looks like a killing machine.

  26. Government sponsered, privately built by Scrameustache · · Score: 3, Informative

    Japan has a government sponsored humanoid robot devellopment project. And it seems that rivalry between the major corporation also fuels the R&D.

    Honda's Asimo is the best of the bunch, but Sony has a doll sized little "entertainment" robot, and Toyota has a trumpet playing robot, not to mention all the universities working on various robotic sub-projects, like facial expression and whatnot (I thought disney's animatronics had the expressiveness thing figured out, maybe my memory has embelished them somewhat).

    Asimov expected the U.S. to be the leader in humanoid robots, he couldn't have foreseen this shift in technological leadership, but at least Honda named their creation after him : )

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    1. Re:Government sponsered, privately built by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      He isn't named after Asimov. The name ASIMO is japanese; it means something like "with legs".

    2. Re:Government sponsered, privately built by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TRUMPET PLAYING? That's incredible... the mouth systems alone would have to be phenominally advanced to get even the slightest semblance of actual music.

    3. Re:Government sponsered, privately built by Scrameustache · · Score: 3, Informative
      He isn't named after Asimov. The name ASIMO is japanese; it means something like "with legs".

      There's a japanese leg pun in there too, but it is named after Asimov.

      From Wikipedia:
      The robot's name is a backronym in honor of science fiction writer Isaac Asimov, maker of the Three Laws of Robotics. Officially, the name stands for "Advanced Step in Innovative Mobility". In Japanese, the name is pronounced ashimo and, not coincidentally, means "legs also".
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      You can't take the sky from me...

    4. Re:Government sponsered, privately built by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd be impressed if anybody got actual music out of a trumpet...

    5. Re:Government sponsered, privately built by GregWebb · · Score: 1

      Speaking as a trumpet player, it sounds really, really bad - but I'm still impressed they've managed it.

      Quite why they're bothering I'm not sure. I mean, knowing how Japanese companies like to make themselves appear squeaky clean, I'm curious what use they think they'll ever have for strong, precisely controllable robot lips...

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      (Inside a nuclear plant)
      Aaaarrrggh! Run! The canary has mutated!

  27. obPennyArcade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Click Does it make you feel like a BIG MAN to bold your links like that??

  28. I saw ASIMO "in person": it's semi-autonomous by Nomihn0 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The routine was preprogrammed and triggered remotely from backstage over a broadband wireless connection. Everything was scripted - the floor was plastered in tape to help the human actors perform correctly. A few of the markers were triggers for ASIMO to orient itself with before demonstrating an action. It was explained to the crowd that some half-dozen technicians were working backstage, keeping the thing going the whole time.

    Now, many of the feats (climbing stairs, walking across a see saw, walking in circles, bracing for a fall) were calculated on the fly by ASIMO. You have to give Honda credit for succeeding in that, but overall ASIMO is just an overblown animatronic puppet.

    At least half a year ago, I saw a video of ASIMO jogging. Although the jogging was a joke as a mode of locomotion, it was an interesting demonstration of balance. My question is, how much has ASIMO changed since then? The video of the new ASIMO running looks suspiciously similar to the old one. I have the feeling that this "next-generation" ASIMO is far more capable than these new video demonstrations convey.

  29. How does ASIMO comapre to A.W.E.S.O.M.–O 4000 by Nova+Express · · Score: 1
    What I want to know is how it compares to the A.W.E.S.O.M.-O 4000 robot? For example, how many Adam Sandler movies can it conceive?

    For those unfamiler with the A.W.E.S.O.M.-O 4000, a picture of it undergoing stress testing by the U.S. military can be found here.

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  30. Asimo == Asimov? Re:anime meets reality by Forge · · Score: 1

    Homage to the author of the 3 laws?

    Is Asimo short for Isaac Asimov? You see robots in civilian settings MUST obey the 3 laws to be useful

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  31. Useful Design by lookn4Change · · Score: 1
    Honda will pursue development of an ASIMO that will be useful to people.

    After reading the article I have a question probably best suited to someone in the robotics industry. Other than the obvious marketing advantages, and perhaps the psychological benefits of using a human form, are there ny good reasons to pursue this train of thought , if "Useful" is the goal?

    My first impression is that the human form is not necessarily the most efficient or stable, but does this outweigh our need to see another human form?

    1. Re:Useful Design by anon+mouse-cow-aard · · Score: 1
      If a robot can use any implements made for humans, then
      the system is a lot more robust:
      • It can use any tools a human can use. Saving on development of robo centric tools.
      • If the gizmo fails, a human can be temporarily substituted to do the job.
      • One reason they are looking at this is to automate caregiving in old age homes (Japanese are getting older) Need a robot that can make the bed, clean the floors, perhaps help granny get out of her chair. If you are going to get picked up by a robot, my guess is that you will be happier if it at least looks human, rather than a dishwasher with arms.
      • It can go wherever a human goes, upstairs & ladders, etc... mechanisms for wheeling upstairs exist, but it is fraught with difficulties owing to the variations in stairs the robot is likely to encounter.
    2. Re:Useful Design by Stripsurge · · Score: 1

      My speculation is that if your end goal is to provide a servant to humans than you want it to be able to do everything a human can. Being able to go up and down stairs is pretty important feature. Sure, you could throw some fancy wheeled system on it that can roll up stairs but something like that still wouldn't be able to climb a ladder to clean out the gutters. One could build a specific robot that would much more efficient at cleaning gutters, and another efficient robot to change light bulbs however your number of robots would quickly increase.

      Who knows. Maybe in the future you could go online and just order a robot to show up at your house to clean the gutters (yes I REALLY hate doing it) and then be on its merry way.

      So by simply having a design plan of "make it human" they are really creating a robot that can do everything that we don't want(or can't due to disability) to do ourselves.

    3. Re:Useful Design by MsGeek · · Score: 1
      you will be happier if it at least looks human, rather than a dishwasher with arms.

      Sentaku! Sentaku!

      (Well, a washing machine with arms, in this case...)

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    4. Re:Useful Design by redcone · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Japan will soon be facing a crisis in elder care. Their options are either to import tens of thousands of foreign nurses and aides or come up with a robotic solution. There is huge political and cultural resistance to importing nurses. The human and animal styled robots are seen as "friendly". The original ASIMO was the size of a grown man. That was seen as threatening, so they rebuilt him boy sized. The ability to adapt easily into a human environment (houses, apartments, nursing homes is also a driving factor)

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  32. Robotic anthropomorphism by Arzach · · Score: 1

    It's funny and kind of cute that we humans have this continual tendency to try and imitate ourselves in other forms: in fiction, advertising, spiritualism and now, robotics.

    I think what we will find with respect to robots is that, once we work out what we REALLY want them for, that their form will follow their function, and as such, they need not necessarily be bipedal humanoid-like.

    I hope I live long enough to see intelligent robots in any potential number of forms serving a myriad of functions, for themselves or others.

    There's some big, beautiful potential in this regard, just waiting to manifest itself.

    1. Re:Robotic anthropomorphism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This was one of the themes in Ghost in the Shell: Innocence, that humans are always trying to create a more perfect version of themselves, and having children is just a lesser substitute for this desire.

    2. Re:Robotic anthropomorphism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've watched a japanese documentary video titled: Japan Screen Topics.
      Astroboy and ASIMO was featured.
      They (the japanese developers) reasoned that they are copying the humanoid form because they want their robots to use tools adapted for human use.

      As an example, they showed ASIMO driving/manipulating an earth excavator with no modification on the excavator.

    3. Re:Robotic anthropomorphism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Animatrix I thought it to be interesting that the original robots were all humanoid, but when the humans and robots were at war the machines slowly evolved into non-humanoid machines (for the fact it was more efficient and that they no longer wanted to be like their masters).

  33. Robots building cars by SlashdotMeNow · · Score: 1

    Well they DO build LOADS of robots to automate their production lines, so I'm not that surprised.

  34. Butlers have advantages by Trejkaz · · Score: 1

    Butlers have a big advantage over robots. When you send them out on an errand, they don't typically get kidnapped and sold to pawn stores.

    Personally I'm waiting until robots start defending themselves against this sort of thing. Otherwise there's no point sending one on an errand, which I would have expected to be a primary use case (other than cleaning the house, which these things are also incapable of.)

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  35. Re:Asimo == Asimov? Re:anime meets reality by tarunthegreat2 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm sure ASIMO is homage to Asimov, but it's also an acronym for Advanced Step in Innovative MObility (Here's the link). I wonder how long they took to come up with that one...

  36. Artificial muscles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should use modern artificial muscles (Electroactive Polymer Actuators) instead of motors. Faster response times, less bulkiness, and less noise .. not to mention reduced electricity consumption.

    Unfortunately, I understand ASIMO has been in development since 1983 and they've used motors throughout in each of the prior generations .. so i dont expect them to change.

    Guess we'll be waiting for someone else to do it. That said .. they do have important innovations in balance control systems that they deserve credit for. When someone makes an EAP based robot Honda will be forgotten. Hope someone at Honda realizes this and they adapt.

  37. Yay for Honda! by kosmicki · · Score: 1

    I think this is a very exciting development. I can't wait to see videos of this thing in action! (Also my first story posted. Woohoo!)

    1. Re:Yay for Honda! by kosmicki · · Score: 1

      Of course everyone else but me can find the blinding ly obvious location for the videos.. Asimo can really book across a room..

  38. Perhaps a Few Decades Away by Dynamic1 · · Score: 1

    I would be interested a robot similar to the female one in Terminator 3 - forgot her model number ...how about Terminatrix?

  39. Someone has to say it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm waiting for the ASIMOV This ASIMOII is simply to primative for me...

  40. Woah what a Huge package! by Oriumpor · · Score: 1

    Episode 804
    Butters: Woah what a Huge package!
    Butters: Ko-ni-chi-wa
    Butters: To Butters Stotch! Oh boy it's for me-it's for me!
    Butters: Who is it from? Sent from japan. WOW! A Package for me FROM JAPAN!
    Butters: What could it be? My birthday's not till September Eleventh!
    Butters: Oh boy, I've never had a package this big!
    Butters: I've always wanted to have a huge package!
    *SLAM*
    *Robot Noises+Blinky Lights*
    Cartman: Greetings. I am the awesomo 4000.
    --Highpoints:
    Carman: LAME!
    --
    Carman: Weak.
    --
    Carman: LAME!

    Karma to burn, mod me lame

  41. Re:I saw ASIMO "in person": it's semi-autonomous by kesuki · · Score: 1

    Asimo is semi-autonimous, but not because it's got an _optional_ remote control. Asimo has to be 'ordered' or 'programmed' to perform tasks, like any robot butler would... it's not an 'artifical thinking machine' if you tell it to 'go wash the car' it can only perform that taks if it understands what you mean by 'car' where the car 'is' and what you mean by 'wash' They could easily program asimo to work on purely voice commands or hand gestures, but the remote control is for convenience and to make the 'demonstartions' go off without a hitch in recognition software, which is far from being able to perfectly handle human speech or gestures.

  42. I think what most slashdotters want to know is by xRelisH · · Score: 2, Funny

    when there will be a "female" version, and what new "tricks" it will be able to do.

    1. Re:I think what most slashdotters want to know is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not sure, maybe it's already out... having sex with your girlfriend feels pretty ... (wait for it) .. robotic!

  43. Re:Asimo == Asimov? Re:anime meets reality by xconslash · · Score: 1

    A lot of Asimov stories were written to show that the Three Laws weren't correct, that they would ultimatley lead to problems. The various short stories revolve around detectives trying to figure out why a robot did something it wasn't supposed to do, apparently violating one of the Three Laws.

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  44. Re:Asimo == Asimov? Re:anime meets reality by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

    Is Asimo short for Isaac Asimov?

    Kinda, most Japanese can't end words in consonants other than "n" and "s", and they're cheating with the "s".
    So they dropped the "v".

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  45. Seems to me they're doing things wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or rather, backwards.

    Instead of building a robot body which has all the degrees of movement that a human has, and then making that walk, they started out with a robot body that did not have all the degrees of motion neccessary to achieve their ultimate goal.

    And instead of working out how to create a robot that can learn on it's own how to move about using a neural net, they are creating basic mathematical algorithms for walking about... But this will never lead them to their goal of a robot that can navigate any onbstacle, because such a system is totally inflexible. Even if they can make their robot run at 20km an hour, will it be able to climb over boulders, or up mesh netting, or go hand over hand up a rope using it's feet to grip?

    Animals easily know how to do these things, even the least intelligent ones, because neural nets are designed for learning, not designed to accomplish specific tasks.

    I read once that someone created a genetic algorithm that used a fitness test to allow a virtual character with virtual muscles goverened by physics to make a character capable of walking form one side of the screen to the other. They succeeded and were suprised when some of the characters the system came up with ran, while others walked, crawled, or somersaulted across the screen.

    You will never get this range of behaviors out of this backwards style of robot design, and I think if Honda had spent their billions on first designing a more flexible body and then on neural net research it would have been money better spent.

    1. Re:Seems to me they're doing things wrong. by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      There are a lot of disadvantages to neural nets:

      1) make obvious mistakes while learning that hard-coded algorithms wouldn't because they already contain real-world knowledge.

      2) A neural network-based architecture would never stop learning so 1) would always be an issue.

      3) Neural networks are unpredictable in that you can't gaurantee constrained behaivour with neural nets alone so e.g. Asimovs 3 laws couldn't be implemented.

      The most ideal architecture would use a mixture of hard-coded programming for goal-oriented ruless and objectives and some lower level neural nets for e.g. motor control. Maybe they do that already.

    2. Re:Seems to me they're doing things wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "There are a lot of disadvantages to neural nets:

      1) make obvious mistakes while learning that hard-coded algorithms wouldn't because they already contain real-world knowledge."

      Any neural net which is simulated on a computer can be recorded and reproduced. One needs to teach a robot to perform the basic tasks like being able to walk and understand human speech, and then one can imprint those memories on all other robots right out of the factory.

      "2) A neural network-based architecture would never stop learning so 1) would always be an issue."

      A robot without a neural net can still make "mistakes".

      If I am running at full tilt, and a child runs in front of me, merely implementing a standard "Stop running" algorithm might not be sucessful in avoiding a collision with the child. As a person though, I am adaptable, and in an instant can decide that the best way to avoid the collision might be to leap over the child who is bending down to pick up a ball, if I cannot dodge to the left or right around them.

      A robot without a neural net will never be able to adapt to all situations. It will make all sorts of mistaakes when it tries to act in a preprogrammed way that ends up being completely wrong for the situation at hand. We can NEVER program a robot with a set of algorithms that can take every possible situation into account.

      "3) Neural networks are unpredictable in that you can't gaurantee constrained behaivour with neural nets alone so e.g. Asimovs 3 laws couldn't be implemented."

      I beg to differ. We have neural nets in our brains, and we are adverse to killing one another.

      Sometimes humans do kill one another, but that is because every human is different.

      Evolution can creatre a neural net that behaves in any way you want it to. If you want it to be strongly adverse to harming people, even at the expense of itself, you can. If you want it to be a complete pacifist you can do that.

      Even if there is a possiblity of a robot doing something bad that harms a human, cars kill people every day and we still use them.

      I think robots with neural nets are the future of robotics. No standard robot will be able to compete with the flexibile nature of a neural net robot, and whoever makes robots that can do virtually anything will crush the competition and their crappy robots that just ask you what your favorite color is and serve drinks.

      I want a robot that I can tell to arrange my DVD's in alphbetical order, and then wash my clothes making sure to seperate the colors from the whites. Then go outside and tend my garden, and after that drive to the store to get me a bottle of milk.

      Your robots will never be able to do all the tasks a person would ask of them.

  46. Toyota by Uukrul · · Score: 1

    Toyota has it's own robot, but it it's only a pair of legs. May be it can't do your homework but it can carry you from home to school.

    You can try to make your own walker your self in two easy steps 1 2.

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  47. Why is that scary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The fictional United States Robotics corporation was a fairly responsible entity which bent over backwards at every step to ensure that its robots were reliable and protected its custmoers every step of the way.

    Generally when one of its customers had the slightest problem with a robot the company sent out its top research scientist to deal with the problem.

    So does it scare you that a company might actually try to act like a mythical 1940s vision of a benevolent corporation, or did you just see the mangled movie and freak out about killer robots?

    Note... the modem manufacturer is a completely different entity.

  48. IN THE FUTURE, THERE WILL BE ROBOTS! by Mad+Ogre · · Score: 1

    So here we see the beginings of the Butlertarian Jihad. Where is Will Smith when we need him?

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    1. Re:IN THE FUTURE, THERE WILL BE ROBOTS! by rob_squared · · Score: 1

      " So here we see the beginings of the Butlertarian Jihad. Where is Will Smith when we need him?"
      Helping men with dating advice:
      http://movies.monstersandcritics.com/news /article_ 2946.php/First_Stills_from_Will_Smith's_Hitch

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  49. Yeah, sure, but can Asimo operate an AK-47? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If not, what's he good for?

  50. No, sells cars. by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 1

    Well, considering that the last one was used to sell cars (poorly), I doubt we're going to war yet.

    This one will probably sell cars and help you get a loan.

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  51. Sorry but that's not running! by FlatCatInASlatVat · · Score: 1

    In my book, when a human is running (or an animal is galloping) there are moments in each step where all feet have left the ground. The video shows clearly that one or the other foot is touching the ground at all times. So this is technically not running. Just power-walking. Impressive, though.

    1. Re:Sorry but that's not running! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually, if you read on, you will see that he
      does leave the ground, even if it's only for about
      0.05 seconds.. hard to see maybe, still it's quite
      an achievement..

    2. Re:Sorry but that's not running! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are right, the definition of running is that all feet are off the ground at the same time. The site give its air time as 0.05 seconds. Both feet are off the ground for that time, so it is running.

  52. ASIMO / Asimov ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone know if the name is anything to do with Dr. Asimov? What with his three laws and all, it seems possible..

  53. Re:I saw ASIMO "in person": it's semi-autonomous by Nomihn0 · · Score: 1

    I never said that ASIMO exhibited artificially intelligent behavior. The system of remote control, as I described it in the parent post, consists of a prewritten macro. The act is monitored by a team of technicians. Steps are triggered by both active (button push) and passive (detection of object in FOV, physical contact,etc. ) stimuli. The distinction that should be made is that all of the processing is done by ASIMO. Also, there are subroutines running the entire time that keep ASIMO balanced in spite of ambient conditions (that guy who has to touch everything in the museum, mild earthquakes, flash photography, rifts in space time, etc.)

  54. Re:Asimo == Asimov? Re:anime meets reality by O-SUSHi · · Score: 0

    However - in most foreign words, they will simply pronounce a 'v' sound in English as 'bu'. [/ot]

    Re:xconslash

    No - like in the movie - the laws stood, but the laws were interpreted in a particular way, allowing the robots to act in a way that did not violate the laws, but from the human perspective was not wanted and therefore perceived as a violation of a law (not following a human's order).

    Okay, lemme rethink, the laws weren't wrong, but they weren't right - but you can't write enough laws to cover your all bases, can you?

    (no reference to 'all you base')

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  55. My God! by deathcloset · · Score: 1

    The step cycle of ASIMO is 0.36 seconds with an airborne time of 0.05 seconds, which are equivalent to that of a person jogging.

    It can already catch a sprinting slashdotter!?

    1. Re:My God! by EEBaum · · Score: 1

      1. Running speed: 3km/hour (airborne time: 0.05 second)
      ---------
      It can already catch a sprinting slashdotter!?

      So, to answer your question, yes.

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  56. Quick math by Stripsurge · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Lets see. At the peak hight half of the total in-air time will have expired and Y velocity is 0. So d = 1/2(9.8)(0.05/2)^2)= 0.0030625m = ~3mm. So its not surprizing if you can't see that with the naked eye.

  57. Re:Asimo == Asimov? Re:anime meets reality by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

    A lot of Asimov stories were written to show that the Three Laws weren't correct, that they would ultimatley lead to problems. The various short stories revolve around detectives trying to figure out why a robot did something it wasn't supposed to do, apparently violating one of the Three Laws.

    Nooooo, but that is what the hype machine for Hardwir...er..."Will Smith's I, Robot" (*groan*) claimed, in order to pass off their hackery as legitimate Asimov.

    Those detectives were actually trying to figure out how following the laws was making the robots act that way (like "why is Speedy running around in circles when he was ordered to go to a location inside that circle?"). The laws were correct, and it was impossible for positronic robots to disobey them, but they were simple laws applied to complex situations, and therefore Isaac wrote about how they could be circumvented, or how they could lead to robots getting stuck in infinite loops, etc.

    Then again, you used the word "apparently", so maybe you understand that, but didn't express it as eloquently as you intended. : )
    Speedy was indeed apparently disobeing the order to go to the specified coordinates...

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  58. Re:I saw ASIMO "in person": it's semi-autonomous by tafinucane · · Score: 1


    What does this mean?

    6. Operating degrees of freedom: Total 34 degrees of freedom (current model: Total 26)

    Is "degree of freedom" one of the pre-programmed macros you mention? Or is it something prosaic, like how far it can bend its knees?

  59. Re:Asimo == Asimov? Re:anime meets reality by Tuqui · · Score: 1

    The name begins with "Asi" in japanese foot or feet. That was to set the image of the first bipedal walking robot.
    But I have no doubts that they use the name because is related to Asimov too.

  60. -1 Cybernetically Illiterate by uhlume · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Force feedback sensors in the wrists aren't cheeting (sic) at all. I'd like to see you negotiate the task of handing someone an object or shaking hands without the ability to distinguish forces acting upon your wrist...

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    1. Re:-1 Cybernetically Illiterate by theVP · · Score: 1

      not only that, but Asimo can recognize up to 10 different faces, and calls those people by name. His AI is actually top notch, he recognizes all sorts of objects and can manipulate a great number of tools.

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  61. Re:Asimo == Asimov? Re:anime meets reality by Forge · · Score: 1

    Actualy many of the robuts in "I-Robot" simply didn't obay the laws at all. They did so acting as part of a super robut trying to live by "law 0".

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  62. fully functional? by rich42 · · Score: 1

    All I want to know is when will they have a "fully functional" model? http://www.allscifi.com/aridor/Iboard.asp?celebrit y=Lieutenant%20Commander%20Data&msg=2938

    1. Re:fully functional? by Blitzenn · · Score: 1

      Male or Female? ;)

  63. should I continue the download Tasha? by rich42 · · Score: 1

    much more amusing URL: http://www.allscifi.com/aridor/Iboard.asp?celebrit y=Lieutenant%20Commander%20Data&msg=9176

  64. Dishwashers by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 1

    This may be totally off topic but one thing which helps get your dishes sqeaky clean is rinsing them properly (and brushing off the stuff which won't go with a rinse) before putting stuff in the dishwasher.

    I know of no dishwashers except industrial ones which don't have problems with food which has dried stuck to a plate. A simple rinse can make a world of difference.

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    1. Re:Dishwashers by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

      This always narks me about dishwashers.
      You pay out hundreds of pounds for this thing.

      You then STILL have to put your dishes in the sink and pre-wash them before you can actually give them to the machine.

      Why not just put a miniscule bit more effort in and get pots done at that initial stage?

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    2. Re:Dishwashers by QuantumG · · Score: 1

      Yeah, if I wanted to fill the sink and wash my dishes, I wouldn't have a freakin' dishwasher. You know what happens when I pull a plate or a dish out the dishwasher that still has food on it? I put it back in the dishwasher!

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  65. Re:I saw ASIMO "in person": it's semi-autonomous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is "degree of freedom" one of the pre-programmed macros you mention? Or is it something prosaic, like how far it can bend its knees?

    Generally with robots a "degree of freedom" is a bendable joint, i.e. prosaic hardware. But you could have looked that up yourself, lazybones.

  66. Modded funny? by Goosey · · Score: 1

    Who gave mod points to the guys with munchies?

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  67. And in other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    .. the robot was also heard to say "Bite My Shiny Metal Ass" when asked to turn its self off.

  68. ASIMO... by Upaut · · Score: 1

    I bet I am not the only person here that, when Honda announced the ASIMO, automatically started to wonder if they were trying to fit a "V" at the end of the acronym...
    And then started to wonder where Honda is planning to take this project. "Robots of Dawn" anyone?

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    1. Re:ASIMO... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Personally I'm waiting for version 5 then it will be
      ASIMO-V

  69. Real uses eventually by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the near future (5-10 years) ASIMO and other "humanoid" robots will probably not be very useful. Beyond that time, as long as corporations continue to develop this type of robot, they could become very useful, for one simple reason: the human world is built for human beings. If you want a robot that can perform a variety of tasks normally performed by human beings, the robot will have to have a more-or-less human shape and will need to move in a human-like manner. Of course there will always be a need for "specialized" robots (dishwashers, automobile construction robots, etc.) but a humanoid robot could come in very handy.

  70. Philosophical Questions Anyone? by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

    Disclaimer: BSc(CS). No industry experience in robotics other than packing what they produce! Self confessed (not obssesed) fan of ASIMO, I have been interested in robots since the space missions in the late 60's and early 70's, particularly Voyagers 1&2. When I grew up I was disappointed to find that the "lost in space robot" was a fake.

    ASIMO has been around since the '80 and is definitely a persistent beacon for huminoid robotics. Every major upgade demonstrates practical advances over the last. Some of those advances have been "jawdroppers". I would put "the ability to run" in that category. I don't know if Honda is the first to get a huminoid to run but you can't "take anything away from the ASIMO" now that it has an independent thumb.

    Someone(?) in the '90s worked out the general maths to "walking" using equations based on pressure mesurements and lots of clever animal & bug experiments. I think Honda's biggest "revolution" is the "slick package". It's one thing to impress a general audience, but to impress a sceptical and qualified audience takes more than hype. You get that by combining the best boffins (from all fields) with a broad goal, such as "make me a practical huminoid maid". Of course with a goal along those lines you are also going to need truckloads of money & patience. As another poster pointed out not much gets spent directly on "marketing", mainly funding demos. Edison is credited with discovering this form of reseach, some say it was his "greatest invention". I had a Honda 750-K3 and it's wiring sucked. I have travelled in the back seat of a Honda Civic (183cm-90kg or 6'-200lbs for the metric imparied) that really sucked. ASIMO is the opposite and to future robot geeks comparing Honda to Bell Labs may not be that much of a stretch.

    Philosophical: I was a high school drop out who went "back to school" in 1989 at age 30. Up until then I had quite a few boring as dog shit jobs like packing, steel presses, jack hammer anyone? NOBODY on the planet should have to do them unless it be community service punishment or as a get fit class.
    Are humanoids a justifyable slave class? What if they were capable of more complex (but still boring as dog shit) tasks, such as roadside cleanup and minor road repairs. In otherwords where is the line between "human" and "oid"? Will we eventually forget how to maintain our cities without compliant "oid's", similar to how many people know little to nothing about where food comes from or where waste goes? How long until we have humanoid "body" transplants for quadreplegics? Is it just me or does the name ASIMO make you immediately think of a particular SF authour? How would humanity cope with the obvious military and "police state" nightmares of humanoid maids?

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  71. Mechs do exist - from Toyota! by PurplePhase · · Score: 2, Informative

    No, not true Mechs(tm!), but tiny working versions (er, I assume):

    Yesterday I'd just been looking in wftv.com's photo-whatever, and saw Toyota's i-Foot and i-Unit AP photo. The page has this caption:

    TOKYO -- Toyota Motor Corp.'s new concept vehicles, i-foot, left, and one-seater i-units line up during their unveiling ceremony. The two-legged i-foot, operated by a rider mounted on a seat with a joystick, and the i-unit that resembled a wheelchair, both designed to help people get around, will be displayed at an exposition in Aichi, central Japan, next year. (12/03/04 AP photo)

    Google for
    Toyota +"i-Foot"
    and you get a page with even better photos - lLooks like scaled-up housings from the Honda pictures (or earlier generation?):

    http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/robots/toyoto-ifo ot -and-iunit-026866.php

    8-PP

  72. Honda has got the real vision by Blitzenn · · Score: 1

    I am fasinated by Honda's commitment to bring this technology to it's logic end without any potential for a profit in the near future. I am more fasinated with Honda's project than I am with anything that NASA is doing here in the USA. I think our president has lost touch with what makes Americans hearts and minds swoon and what they envision as necessary technologies to progress into the future. Honda has that vision. Honda has my attention. I wish that our country had something as wonderful as ASIMO is to showcase as a result of our hard work. I would rather see all of those billions that are earmarked for the Mars project(s) go to something like this instead. That would be a real thing to admire in my eyes.

  73. Not dynamic walking by jtogel · · Score: 1

    I would say it's on the wrong track. It seems to have at least one foot on the ground at all times, and thus displays a "stable" and not a "dynamic" gait. Also, notice how it seems to walk with its knees bent all the time. For an in-depth look at more natural-like (and potentially more useful) approaches to walking, see http://www.cogs.susx.ac.uk/users/inmanh/HART2004_H arvey_etal.pdf For some amazing movies of evolved dynamic walking, see http://www.droidlogic.com/

    1. Re:Not dynamic walking by PantsWearer · · Score: 1
      The press release (thus take this with a large grain of salt) says that in "run" mode, ASIMO is airborne for about a 20th of a second. I'd say that this covers dynamic walking.

      They also talk about it when they speak of slip and slide problems in the release also.

      This seems to be able the same level a Sony's QRIO except on a larger scale.

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  74. Arms while jogging... by Xaroth · · Score: 1

    I noticed that, when jogging, the ASIMO lifts its arms up in a manner similar to what humans will do when hustling. Does anyone know if this was purely aesthetic, or if it served some purpose?

    1. Re:Arms while jogging... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you pick up your arms you can swing them around faster. So my guess would be that it is necessary to get Asimo to move his arms fast enough.

  75. Thanks, Honda -- now I have to learn to RUN!!! by IronChefMorimoto · · Score: 1

    Just f---ing great. I finally get up the gumption to start jogging and losing some of this computer ass of mine, and Honda invents a f---ing robot that can jog -- as fast, if not faster, than me.

    This is bigger than advancing movement technologies.

    When thousands of ASIMOs at the Honda plant f---ing become sentient and decide to take over the world, poke-ass "joggers" like me are going to die. We won't be able to get away from them.

    Damn you, Honda. Damn you. Where do I sign up to be a human battery?

    IronChefMorimoto

  76. lol by ronsta · · Score: 0

    lame

  77. Re:Honda? (Car Company?) by Mr.+No+Skills · · Score: 1

    A hit to their home page shows that they have quite a few products outside the car market. It's a forward thinking thing. They expect some day robots will be as common as a lawn mower.

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  78. Awesome by ValuJet · · Score: 1

    I didn't rtfa, does it give a timeframe on when Cartman will be updating Awesome0?

  79. Dress it up! by ayjay29 · · Score: 1

    It's starting to look pretty realistic, in the way it walks and moves. They should put clothes on it, and a hat and some dark sun glasses. Then it would really freek people out.

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    1. Re:Dress it up! by X-rated+Ouroboros · · Score: 1

      I've always thought ASIMO looked kind of funny when it tried to walk quickly (or jog, with the new model).

      Then I started thinking about a black and white Japanese movie I saw a 3am a while back. The courtesians ran with the same tiny mincing gait.

      So I'm curious if ASIMO's walking/jogging style is a design limitation, or are they trying for that particular style of movement?

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  80. Great project for HW hackers by earthforce_1 · · Score: 1

    This would be a great project for HW hackers, if they could open source the HW or if it could be retrofitted with an off the shelf MIPS or power PC controller PC. Using this as the platform for an open source robotics project would really advance the state of the art in this field. Grad students could experiment with all sorts of advanced goal seeking and pattern recognition algorithms, and contribute them to the back to the project. In a short time with enough experts contributing, I expect we could have a real GPL AI project up and running.

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  81. Re:I saw ASIMO "in person": it's semi-autonomous by PantsWearer · · Score: 1
    A few of the markers were triggers for ASIMO to orient itself with before demonstrating an action.

    If this is true, this is actually more impressive than it seems. Think of it this way, which is more technically difficult:

    Technician presses start button, robot executes program: Walk x steps, turn left 90 degrees, walk y steps...

    or

    Technician presses start button, robot executes program: Walk until you get out onto the stage, turn toward the taped area on the floor. Walk toward it. Turn down the break in the taped area.

    Either will get the same end result, but with the later, the robot has to see the tape, figure out when to turn by the tape placement, etc. This means that from show to show, the tape placement could change without having to rewrite the program.

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  82. Japanese army by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Combine how the japanese government is slowly ratifying changes in their military structure to allow for offensive capability and the manufacturing abilities of one of the world's largest automotive company + android robotics...

    Payback for hiroshima and nagasaki would be a real bitch.

    I for one welcome our new samurai overlords

    1. Re:Japanese army by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they also have the biggest computer cluster on the planet and are fighting hard to host the fusion project in japan...

  83. Re:I saw ASIMO "in person": it's semi-autonomous by Nomihn0 · · Score: 1

    -and that IS how it works. They tour with the robot, so it has to be able to deal with new environments.

    Although they only seemed to use the tape to line ASIMO up with a staircase, it is a promising step (pun intended). There is one problem, though. ASIMO looks for the tape when it is already very near where it needs to be. ASIMO has an easy time seeing a high-contrast mark directly in front of itself - especially if it knows when to look for it. Note that the tape is on the floor - when ASIMO looks down anywhere within a foot of the tape, there is no ambiguity that it is the trigger. I doubt that ASIMO can even locate a piece of tape on a wall more than a few feet away. Locating and approaching a trigger on the ground without "practice" is also unlikely. Maybe, as you suggest, ASIMO could adapt its path through trial and error, implemented by the technicians pre-show, and guided with the same triggers.

  84. " I'm someone in the robotics field ..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah. Sure you are, buddy.

  85. A 3-way acronym? by Cryptnotic · · Score: 1

    Is an acronym in English.
    English acronym is a reference to Asimov.
    Japanese pronunciation is like "ashi mo" (legs too!).

    Some may disagree, but I think that's cooler than the recursive acronyms used in free software.

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