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HP iPAQ hx2750 Pocket PC Review
Lisa Gade writes "The hx2000 line replaces the successful but aging iPAQ 2215 as HP's mid-sized
Pocket PC with dual slots and lots of power. We at pdabuyersguide.com take
an
in-depth look at
the top-of-the-line hx2750, which is the fastest Pocket PC to date. It has a 624MHz
processor, 128 megs of RAM, dual slots, WiFi, Bluetooth and a biometric fingerprint
scanner for security. Sporting a new ergonomic design, the device comes with
a transparent flip cover everyone is sure to love. If you have a need for speed
and a fat wallet, this might be the PDA for you (if you can live with Windows
rather than Linux)!" Speaking of Windows on small devices, there's coverage -- with screenshots -- originally from neowin.com, but now removed from that site, of the upcoming Windows Mobile 2005 at mobileread.com and also at davesipaq.com.
Some phone capability and this is all I need in my pocket. Rather than sticking in a CF card.
Since HP & Compaq went together... hmmm I'm going to have to say pass, sorry.
Personally, I'd have to think twice before buying another HP device. Since Compaq was bought, their support has gone down the toilet IMHO. (Except for their oh-so-valuable corporate customers)
Lisa Gade writes [...] We at pdabuyersguide.com [...] (if you can live with Windows rather than Linux)!"
Interesting, Lisa. Nowhere in your article do I see the word "Linux" but you throw it into your synopsis. Was that for the benefit slashdot to make you cool?
Trolling is a art,
Wifi and VPN issues have plagued every pocket PC I've used so far (2 IPAQs and a Theora). The article states that Wifi performance was good but, I am skeptical.
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Why does /. insist on posting articles that are simply promotions of useless web sites? Are the editors getting kickbacks from the submitters?
Yeah, In know. OT. And, it will be modded down. But, they are still insteresting questions.
Dell Axim X30 was the first PocketPC to go 624mhz, and then this HP. So technically it isn't the "fastest", for the axim had everything the Hp has at the same cpu speed, excluding the biometric scanner (which is awesome). I'd but one just for that.
Computers products are being manufactured in China???? OMFG!!!! The next thing you know, the commies are gonna be marching right down main street in Omaha! Somebody alert the media!
Oh a serious note: Dear AC, grow up. If we were to boycott Chinese products, we probably would not be able to purchase anything, anymore.
And why does the submission read like an advertisement? Oh wait, that's because it IS an advertisement.
There's a Mercedes gap too. I want one and can't afford one, but it's not government's job to do anything about it.
Im getting tired of companies listing the ROM as if that was the number accessable. Just like your hard drive(only worse) the number indicated is not completley accessable.
Read the article, and look at the benchmark numbers.
Just because the Dell has the same X-scale 624 proc, doesn't mean it's just as fast by default.
Sporting a new ergonomic design, the device comes with a transparent flip cover everyone is sure to love.
This statement is not news. It's an advertisement. Editors, please edit.
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If America relied on it's own industry for things like this, prices for these items would be ten times what they are now.
Red China may not treat its workers with the most respect, but I'll be damned if they can't put out a reasonably priced product. What's wrong with that?
Neowin also had info and screenshots of WM 2005 for Smartphone, but it was also removed. The info is still up at ConnectedMobiles. Peace
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I've already got a Zaurus.
And you can replace it with an iPAQ when you pry it from my cold dead hands.
No problem, I was planning on boycotting any $550 Pocket PC anyway.
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I'm thinking the Dell Axim X50v is a better buy. $450 right now at Dell, with VGA screen, dual wireless, dual memory (SD & CF), 624mhz, 64 RAM, 128 ROM, and 16mb vid memory a la Intel.
Still, biometrics are awfully sweet...
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Hell, you can buy a Dell for around $600 that comes with a 17" flatscreen LCD. I'd rather carry that around on my back than pay $550 for any Pocket PC.
Its pretty easy to port code to Pocket PC devices. The APIs are almost exactly like the windows APIs so code that workds on windows can be moved over (minus UI unless you planned ahead for smaller screens) fairly easily. The other good thing is MS is somewhat ridged about what the hardware has to be like for the Windows Mobile OS, so if it works on one device it (to a large extent) will work on all devices.
Palm is another matter. Its pretty screwy in the way it does a lot of things (memory handling, data storage, etc.) and because the device manufactures have a lot of freedom in the hardware it can be hard to support all the devices (on the flip side though that freedom has allowed for some pretty cool devcies, ex. the treo, in the past.)
Also, the MS gives away the tools for the Pocket PC, but I have yet to find a good free IDE/compiler for Palm.
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I have a Palm T3 for a simple reason. It has a larger than norm palm screen, yet it fits confortably in my pocket.
Even though the feature lists of these iPaqs keep calling my name, I am unable to get past the bulk factor. Last time I tried, I was not able to fit an iPaq into my pants pocket confortably.
I wish more attention would be paid to this in the Windows Mobile world (or whatever they are call this year.) The features are great, but they are too damn big to be as portable as a wallet like my T3. I can't be the only one who thinks this.
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The reason the IPAQs took off so well was the expandability - the sleeves meant you could put anything on to them, whether it was PCMCIA or dedicated GPRS. When they took those out, you might as well have a rebranded Axim - cheap in every wrong sense. When they bring PCMCIA back via sleeves, then we can start thinking of the hp series as of the line, not the current top-of-the line sleeved 5455 (and I wont have to go to Intrinsyc to spec a pcmcia dual slot into their models).
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Well I haven't been all that pleased recently with Compaq. My apartment is built on an ancient Indian Graveyard and so electrical equipment related or of my computer routinely dies. As I got finally sick of going through the motions of building a new system and as my time was very short, I picked up a Compaq Presario S6500NX. I know - a noob machine, but it had what I needed, a 3Ghz Athlon XP, and plenty of everything else for like 699 US.
Everything has worked fine, but I have since (after 3 trips to the computer store) tried upgrading ye old GeForce3 Ti 200 to a 6600 GT AGP.
Turns out the motherboard (which is this ASUS orphan board that ASUS won't even admit to making only for Compaq) has some dumbed down BIOS. So there's some BIOS setting somewhere I just can't get to (presumably) which prevents the BIOS from even booting when the new card is in. (I've tried various cards and powersupplies.
My question is, what the heck is the point?? Why dumb something down like this? Most people couldn't even get *into* the BIOS. What are they hiding from me and why??
In terms of raw number crunching, about what model Pentium cpu would this one be equal to?
Where I actually agree with the boycott, it's got to be a smart boycott- I don't think there are any computer products of any sort that aren't made in Southeast Asia these days. Want those jobs back? Then we need to support a quota system like the auto industry has that has encouraged makers like BMW and Toyota to open plants in the good ole' USA.
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
Yes, because I know a number of gun shop owners that are just looking for reasons to not sell a gun to someone... ^_^
If America relied on it's own industry for things like this, prices for these items would be ten times what they are now.
Good, they're luxury items and should be priced as such.
Red China may not treat its workers with the most respect, but I'll be damned if they can't put out a reasonably priced product. What's wrong with that?
What's wrong with that is the ONLY reason the product is "reasonably priced" to your way of thinking is because the worker who made it is only getting one bowl of rice a day. Your paying that low price instead of a more reasonable price is morally profiting from direct evil.
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
the point with a handheld is to do tasks more efficiently than without them.. if that means Pocket PC, Palm, or Linux- who cares.. the point is to track appointments, contacts, and other 'in the field tasks'
not to see how 'leet' your handhelds OS can be
ps. if I had to guess, I'll see doom 3 on the Pocket PC a few years before I see it on a zarius (and I may get 2-3 new frames of the game in those few years too)
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I just picked up the e830 for 549 Cdn. (50 USD?). It has been pretty good so far (meaning I haven't encountered any faults... yet) vga screen, dual slot, wifi and all the trimmings.
Only reserve I have is Toshiba bailing out of the market.. What a bitch... Its the first pda i've ever bought. I'm so glad I'll never be able to buy compatible accessories! YES! I understand its bluetooth isn't compatible with many bluetooth devices! YES! I can't wait to burn more money on another! YES!
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Actually PalmSource has an Eclipse based development suite for its Palm OS devices located here http://www.palmos.com/dev/tools/dev_suite.html
When I first looked at it, it was still in a very early beta version, and since I've moved over to a Pocket PC device I haven't kept up with advancement on this program so I'm not sure how good it currently is.
Luxuries? Let's go on down the line then. If we start banning/boycotting imports from countries that use "objectionable" practices then where do we stop? What if your "Assembled in USA" clock/radio used components that were manufactured by ten year olds in a third world country? Want to imagine making monthly payments on a Starbucks' latte during a serious coffee embargo because the growers in south America are made to work 90 hour weeks? Hey, the paper and ink used to print children's textbooks come from a rainforest, no more learning to read for the low income Americans!
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haha, don't they do it on Alias all the time?
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...and a biometric fingerprint scanner for security
I am stunned! A fingerprint scanner. And they use it for security?!? How?
Come on. Seriously, how!?!
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Little Jimmy-bob reads some website that talks about bypassing thumbprint scanners with gummy bears. Daddy just happens to be napping on the couch. Little Jimmy-Bob grabs a gummy bear out of the cupboard...yada yada...he shoots his friend while showing off.
Biometric security devices are easily bypassed/tricked/hacked. Putting them on guns would just provide a false sense of security and appease ignorant anti-gun lobbyists.
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Uh, everything you mentioned is a luxury. It's a want, not a need. The basic needs of humanity are very simple- food, clothing, shelter, water, medical care. Problem is, of those, only three are still "Assembled in America", and of those, only two come from raw materials found in America. (Some of the rest come from American Raw Materials also- but are assembled elsewhere, like Alabama Cotton being shipped to Bangladesh to make Levis, that sort of thing). Personally, I already purchase Fair Trade coffee, and if Fair Trade Computers were available I'd choose them over the standard Taiwan junk hardware that I have to replace every year. It's possible to make paper and ink from in-country sources (we did it for upwards of a century and a half) and it wouldn't be that hard to actually manufacture AM/FM clock radios here if there was a market for them that the boycott produced.
But like I said- quotas and tarriffs are FAR more effective tools than boycotts for changing this behavior.
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
looking at the screenshots of the upcoming Windows Mobile 2005 I am just surprised about some of the GUI design choices. A background that blends with the text and makes things unreadable. Top right button is interchangably "OK" or "X". Nobody in the design team notice these things? Not trained to notice them?
I have the Dell Axim x50v, and it is a sweet machine (as others have mentioned as well). I put up a simple review on my website, nothing too in depth: http://www.young-technologies.com/Reviews/Dell_Axi m_x50v_Pocket_PC_Review/
I stand by my opinion that the market will not support the price hikes necessary to go "America Only". The majority of the free world wants the best product for the lowest price. If it turns out that eleven year olds working for one bowl of rice every three days can get America the industrial materials to build new schools or a particular plant for the newest cancer medication, then you can be sure that the whip is going to be cracked harder.
It wouldn't be hard to produce everything we need domestically. Coming up with five to ten times our current income to scrape out an existance is another story.
I stand by my opinion that the market will not support the price hikes necessary to go "America Only". The majority of the free world wants the best product for the lowest price. If it turns out that eleven year olds working for one bowl of rice every three days can get America the industrial materials to build new schools or a particular plant for the newest cancer medication, then you can be sure that the whip is going to be cracked harder.
I agree- thus it needs to be forced. The market, left to it's own devices, is an amoral evil beast that needs to be tamed. Even Adam Smith said that the invisibile hand cares NOTHING about the workers or consumers.
It wouldn't be hard to produce everything we need domestically. Coming up with five to ten times our current income to scrape out an existance is another story.
Ah, that part isn't hard- simply revalue the money supply. But it would take an iron fist, lots of guns, and a willingness to let the majority of millionaires be poor to do it.
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
That review is Poppycock!
They compare it against a Dell Axim x30 624Mhz (based on the Intel PXA263 processor) and then a Dell Axim x50 (based on the Intel PXA270 processor), which has the very same processor as the HP PDA being reviewed.
Whets wrong? The Dell Axim x50 v is the Dell PDA they -SHOULD- be comparing it against, as it has not only the same CPU (Intel PXA270), but THE SAME CLOCK SPEED!
How can they call this a fair review and comparison when the PDAs they compare it against are spec'd below the HP in question.
That's like comparing this 2.0Ghz Celeron against a 2.0Ghz P4 (as in comparing the PXA263 at 624mhz on the Axim x30, vs. the PXA270 at 624mhz in the HP). They're different chips! Of course the newer generation is going to be more refined and a better performer.
I'm just very disappointed with hardware review sites these days as they seem very slated towards their sponsors or preferred hardware.
The basic needs of humanity are very simple- food, clothing, shelter, water, medical care.
But you have to admit that the real problem here is the fact there are too many people. It is the unrestricted right of reproduction which makes it difficult to maintain a high level of culture. If the population of the planet was 500 million instead of 6 billion those basics would be easy to cover, and such luxuries items would simply be the stuff we make with the rest of our spare time.
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If all we needed was TIME- then there's no problem as we have some 5 billion potential workers out of the nearly 7 billion on the planet. We've got a surplus of working time- that isn't the problem.
There are three divergent real problems here- #1 is the fact of the aforementioned surplus means purely in supply vs demand terms, the comparative advantage of any given individual is basically $1/day- the wages in most countries in the world. Problem #2 is the fact that some 350 million of us think we deserve to have our luxuries so much that we're eating up the resources that should be feeding 3 billion of us. Problem #3 is that we tend to congregate where we grow our food until we exceed the food supply; we really need to spread out a bit more and get more decentralized. All of these problems make it APPEAR we have a population problem, when in reality all we have is a resource distribution problem.
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
Ah, that part isn't hard- simply revalue the money supply. But it would take an iron fist, lots of guns, and a willingness to let the majority of millionaires be poor to do it.
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Quite the faux pas. I only just noticed the Marxist schtick in your name. I could've saved us both a few posts.
Come on, HP, do you seriously expect me to drop hundreds of dollars for something that looks this bad even compared to a _Dell_? It's a _personal_ computing device, aesthetics are of utmost importance. If I don't enjoy looking at this thing every day all day long, I'll just leave it at home and after a while list it on eBay.
the device supports 64 and 128 bit WEP encryption, 802.1x using PEAP, SmartCard or Certificates
But does it support WPA?
Can you install apps on it without a Windows machine? I'm stuck with this older palmtop that is useless because I have a Mac and I'm not buying virtual PC just to install apps on it. (It was a gift.)
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Interesting point, I had not thought there were still trivial ways to overcome these. I guess it does modify things.
But on the other hand, when dady falls asleep, little Jimmy-Bob could just steal his keys, that is in theory easier to do then duplicate a fingerprint.
I do agree with you though, it would create false security. Let's just require them on guns and still require the current security levels... ah well.
JC
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What makes me very unhappy is when there is a fingerpint sensor, a large network and an authenticating server. There are so many points where signals may be injected on most systems that they are worse than useless (false sense of security).
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I have the 4700 and love it, but would also love the 128MB that comes with this model.
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I agree with you there. Multiple levels of security are required.
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My only question is; when are HP going to build an Ipaq that has a screen that's as good in sunlight as the 38xx/39xx series????
I use my 3845 still to this day both as a PDA and as an aviation GPS (running Navzilla) so a good sunlight readable display is paramount to me. I tried some of the more recent HP Ipaqs (like about 6 months ago), and despite being a lot faster even on the GPS stuff I found the screens to be SEVERELY lacking, especially in a cockpit. This was in a Cessna... I dread to think how washed out the screen would be in a bubble-canopy type aircraft!
:-) I should change that to distributist- since that's the economic system I'm more for- but nobody knows what it is. Marxism, distributism, and capitalism all have their flaws- but you'd think that being nice, smart, and inventive people, we'd find a way to get the best parts of all of those to work and punish people who do the worst parts of all of them.
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
And guess what- when those old people die off, young people will replace them. The important thing is keeping jobs here.
I think you meant to reply to the grandparent- I actually agree with you.
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
If subsistence-level existence is all you think humanity should aspire to. And does the average North American (or European) really eat ten times the food they require? No.
No, they WASTE 10x the food they require, they only eat a small fraction of that, about 3x the food they require- which is why obesity is epidemic in North America, AND why our supermarkets throw out half of their incoming produce.
Yes, New York and Los Angeles grow a lot of food.
Maybe not now- but the Orange and Lemon groves of the Los Angeles Valley were once downright legendary- and the Hudson River Valley was the breadbasket of the original 13 colonies. Why don't you bother reading some HISTORY sometime?
What are you trying to say with the above statement, other than "I am incapable of composing a coherent thought"?
What I did say- that the apparent overpopulation problem is really an unfair resource distribution problem in disguise. What are you, illiterate?
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
Cite your source that the iPaq is made by workers only getting one bowl of rice a day.
It's inferance from the standard rations of any given factory worker in China, combined with Carly Fiorna's now infamous statement that Americans don't deserve jobs and her company (which, BTW, is HP) is moving offshore so that they don't give any of those overpriced dirty Americans any jobs.
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.