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Fantastic Four Teaser Trailer

Brian Renner writes "20th Century Fox will debut the teaser trailer for Fantastic Four , on January 14th, before theatrical screenings of Elektra. Only moviegoers attending Elektra showings will get this first look at Fox's epic incarnation of Marvel's first family of comic superheroes."

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  1. Random thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    If the film isn't fantastic, can we get the under the Trade Descriptions Act?

    Why does Jessica Alba have to be the one that's invisible? She's well fit!

    The human torch is played by Chris Evans? I guess you can't get much more of a firey redhead...

    1. Re:Random thoughts by Forge · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Funy thing with the FF. I spent 6 Years thinking the Thing was black ontil I read a flashback isue that showed his original apearance.

      Just something to look out for in the movie.

      Another thing. Spiderman was the best Chemis in the Marvel Universe. By giving him biological webs the movie made him average. Reed Richards (Mr. Fantastic) is the best phisicist and 3rd best enginear (Behind IronMan and Dr. Doom).

      Will they ignore his technological inovations and render him just a luky geak? Or worse, will they pull off a Hulk and drag his forgoten parents into it with prenatal genetic enginearing?

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    2. Re:Random thoughts by brandorf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Horrid Spelling errors aside, you've got a point.

      There's always some modernization that happens when a movie is released. People now know much more about what is possible. A movie critic elucidats the point rather nicely.

      " ...Parker is very quickly bitten by a genetically enhanced spider. (Updating the original comic book, in which it's a radioactive spider. Wouldn't that be funny now? SCENE ONE - Peter is bitten by radioactive spider. SCENE TWO - Peter dies from radiation poisoning. THE END)"

      But, no matter how faithful a movie stays to its source material, purists will still hate it.

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    3. Re:Random thoughts by Forge · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm not as worried about the purity of the story as I am about the quality. I.e. I try not to grumble too much over 3 separate girlfriends being amalgamated into Mary Jane for Spiderman.

      I am even willing to forgive letting her survive being tossed off a very high bridge (Spidy lost a girlfriend that way in the comic)

      Those things are sometimes necessary to fit a long story into 2 hours or to promote the "new" paradigm of monogamy among heroes. (Seen a recent James Bond flick?)

      In Spiderman's case they managed to still pull it off. The Hulk was another matter.

      One thing I do like about the Marvel Superheroes movies is that they usually stock them with actors who look the part. No 5'10" 160 lb guys playing 6'4" 240 lb Vigilantes. That's where the problems began in the Batman movies. They went far and deep, but they started there :). So Wolverine was a little thin and too tall. He was still believable. Hugh Jackman made up for the physical differences by _acting_ the part. If only more movie stars would do that :)

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    4. Re:Random thoughts by Rakishi · · Score: 1

      To me both scenarios seem equally ludicrous ...

    5. Re:Random thoughts by SmilingBoy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Have you read and seen the Bourne Supremacy? The plot of the film has nothing whatsoever in common with the book. Zero. Zip. (except the title maybe and the name of the protagonist) I was very surprised when I read the book.

    6. Re:Random thoughts by dorward · · Score: 1

      SCENE ONE - Peter is bitten by radioactive spider and dies from radiation poisoning.
      SCENE TWO - Mini driver defeats Green Goblin.
      THE END. Its a Mini Adventure!

    7. Re:Random thoughts by lachlan76 · · Score: 1

      I haven't seen the Bourne Supremeay, but I've read Identity/Supremacy, and seen the Identity movie. The Bourne Identity wasn't related to the book at all.

      And then there was The Sum of All Fears. I mean WTF??? I still don't know who set off the bomb in that, could someone fill me in?

      They cut out the first 500-800 pages it seems, so I don't really understand the movie at all. Judging by the video game it sounds like some South African guy.

    8. Re:Random thoughts by SmilingBoy · · Score: 1

      If you think the Bourne Identity film was not similar to the book, you should watch the Supremacy. For Identity, at least the locations are similar, you've got the money from the bank etc (OK, not a lot of similarity, but at least a bit!). Supremacy is completely different.

    9. Re:Random thoughts by nelsonal · · Score: 1

      That's too bad because the Supremacy seemed like the best of the three to be coverted to a movie. It had a more action based plot w/ less introspective periods that seemed easier to transfer to the silver screen. Plus it is rather topical with the rise of China and current distrust of the US government. If you've only seen the movies do yourself a favor and check out the books, they are quite interesting.

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    10. Re:Random thoughts by donweel · · Score: 1

      There was a Fantastic Four movie made that was never released. I wonder how it compares to this one. The new version looks like another cookie cutter plug in the latest desirable bodys play. I might see it when it comes out on dvd if I'm bored.

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    11. Re:Random thoughts by VAXcat · · Score: 1

      The previous one was made only to fulfill some legal obligation of the optioning of the movie. I've never seen it, but legend has it, that it is...not good...very bad in fact. Much less than fantastic...

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    12. Re:Random thoughts by wizard_of_wor · · Score: 1

      You're concerned that the actors in the live-action movies don't sufficiently resemble the body types of the comic book characters? If someone in real life had comic-style body proportions, they would stand out as grotesque freaks.

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    13. Re:Random thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      'This is the most blatant case of fraudulent advertising since my suit against the film The Never-Ending Story'.

      - Lionel Hutz

    14. Re:Random thoughts by mink · · Score: 1

      It's fantastically a Roger Corman production. So right from tho openeing credits you know it's MST3K fodder. It was on various p2p netowrks and with the new film , I suspect it will get some kind of underground following for it's badness.

      WOW according to IMDB it had a whole 2 million dollar budget (for a 1994 film).

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    15. Re:Random thoughts by paco3791 · · Score: 1

      I whole-heartedly agree, Tim Burton was the perfect director for the batman series. I might also say that the later actors to protray the dark knight after Butron and Michael Keaton left were just really bad (Val Kilmer and Goerge Clooney) ugh!

    16. Re:Random thoughts by invenustus · · Score: 1

      Heh. Yeah, and they aren't sure what year it takes place in. It should be the cold war because Ryan is decades younger and not married, but the modern Chechnya conflict is going on. And they don't seem to understand the Chechnya conflict, because for the US to send "peacekeeping forces" to Chechnya, which we (right or wrong) recognize as part of Russia, would be a really big deal.

      In the book, the terrorists were an alliance of communists, Islamic fundamentalists, and native American separatists, which was hard to swallow but was at least internally consistent.

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    17. Re:Random thoughts by kaiidth · · Score: 1

      Ye gods, I bought the book of the Bourne Supremacy.

      I was left with the distinct impression that whilst there are many authors whose work I respect greatly, they do not include Ludlum. Something about his writing style leaped out at me. It may have been excess! exclamation! marks! and? too many rhetorical? questions? Or it may have been all this "fuck-fuck" "damn-damn" rubbish that he has all his Chinese characters come out with for no evident reason.

      OTOH I do remember his habit of repeatedly describing specific people as "the Zhongguo ren", which is desperately annoying as it gives the strong impression that he has succeeded in researching a minimal number of terms in Chinese, and is desperately looking for any possible occasion to re-use them. Particularly since they're in China at the time, it's not exactly a unique bloody identifier either. It only means 'Chinese person', after all.

      The whole thing was desperately reminiscent of those Tom Clancy characters whose English is rendered with utter fluency throughout the book, but who nonetheless pepper their conversation with meaninglessly ungrammatical constructions ("how do you say?"). Sometimes this gets extreme; you get Germans coming out with sentences like, "Just arrived, ja, we have three sets."

      Someone really needs to take these authors aside and explain that:

      a) Even though Chinese might sound odd, it doesn't if you're listening in Chinese, so if you don't want to cause unintentional hilarity it is best not to bother with all that "fuck-fuck" crap beyond the bare minimum required to establish the point.

      b) Russian people really don't say 'Tovarisch' anymore (Stargate need to learn this too. Ouch).

      c) When speaking a second language it is generally not the case that you remember all of the hard words and complex grammar but fluff up on 'yes', 'no', and 'shit'. The really funny thing about (c) is that Clancy gets it right where his Anglophones are concerned, eg:
      "'Bitte sehr, Herr-Direktor,' the Brit answered, just about exhausting his knowledge of the German language."

      Still, apart from that it might have been a good book, but to be honest I quit taking it seriously after the bit where d'Anjou gets his head chopped off (what sort of final words are "Come die with me, General Dung!"?)

    18. Re:Random thoughts by zrk · · Score: 1

      I found a bootleg DVD of it on ebay, but haven't had the nerve to watch it.

  2. And... by OzRoy · · Score: 4, Funny

    internet pirates will be able to view it on the 13th.

    1. Re:And... by polysylabic+psudonym · · Score: 1

      Informative? what have the moderators been smoking? I'd go with a funny mod - it's only informative if he gives us a link to a download site!

    2. Re:And... by mefus · · Score: 1

      I'm sure there must be other (legitimate) ways to see it such that FOX doesn't receive on single dime...

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    3. Re:And... by Badfysh · · Score: 1

      Some people have already seen the trailer on Bittorrent - er, so I hear...

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    4. Re:And... by RangerRick98 · · Score: 1

      Actually, the moderator who gave the informative rating probably liked the joke so much he wanted to give the poster positive karma. Funny mods evidently don't affect karma.

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    5. Re:And... by wyohman · · Score: 1

      internet pirates will be able to view it on the 13th.

      I think you mean internet idiots (isn't that redundant?). Marketing anything during the movie Elektra or any other "graphic novel" just makes me laugh.

      *NEW* Graphic novels. Television for the semi-literate!

  3. Well... by TheKidWho · · Score: 5, Funny

    I already saw the movie, its called the incredibles!

    1. Re:Well... by CapnGrunge · · Score: 1

      Hehe, they owe to so many more:
      - Flash
      - Silver surfer || Iceman
      - Freakazoid (Syndrome looks completely like this one)...

      [Insert your entry here]

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    2. Re:Well... by GrandGranini · · Score: 1

      I totally second that. With the sixties setting, the James Bond music, even the the Mole Man (The Underminer), The Incredibles was the best Fantastic Four movie one could wish for.

      There's no way the upcoming FF flick can top that. Seriously, the promo pictures look like a SciFi channel miniseries.

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  4. Soon we will see... by wcitechnologies · · Score: 4, Funny
    ...what is more important to the American audience.

    A classic group of beloved superheroes -OR- A nice set of...

    well, nevermind, I think you all know where I'm going with this.

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    1. Re:Soon we will see... by cying · · Score: 1

      ...what is more important to the American audience.

      A classic group of beloved superheroes -OR- A nice set of...

      ... brains. Big... beautiful... brains.

      *nod*

    2. Re:Soon we will see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      You're gay aren't you?

  5. flame on! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    clobbering time!

  6. Dear god no... by EvilCabbage · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... this movie could only possibly look worse if Paul W.S. Anderson had written and directed.

    Jessica Alba may be a fine piece of ass, but she is totally wrong for this film, as is the rest of the cast.

    I almost wish this Hollywood comic book phase was over so they'd stop fucking with my childhood heros.

    1. Re:Dear god no... by Xpilot · · Score: 4, Funny


      Jessica Alba may be a fine piece of ass, but she is totally wrong for this film, as is the rest of the cast.


      Feh, speak no ill of Lady Jessica! Her lovely ass may embrace any motion picture that she chooses. She could have been cast as Winston Churchill and I'd still pay to see it.

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    2. Re:Dear god no... by Osty · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Jessica Alba may be a fine piece of ass, but she is totally wrong for this film, as is the rest of the cast.

      Jessica Alba is hot as a brunette, but Susan Storm is a blonde, and I don't think Alba can pull off blonde well. However, Michael Chiklis as Ben Grimm and Julian McMahon as Dr. Doom look like good matches to me. As for the rest, I'm not really familiar with them, so I couldn't really say.

    3. Re:Dear god no... by marcushnk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      meh.. as long as they keep its just slightly corny.. it might be ok...
      Please oh please don't try to make it dead set serious.

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    4. Re:Dear god no... by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 5, Funny
      Her lovely ass may embrace any motion picture that she chooses. She could have been cast as Winston Churchill and I'd still pay to see it.
      Unfortunately in this movie she plays Invisible Woman so you'll be paying to not see it.
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    5. Re:Dear god no... by 1u3hr · · Score: 2, Informative
      Jessica Alba may be a fine piece of ass, but she is totally wrong for this film, as is the rest of the cast.

      There're some stills here. Mr Fantastic at least looks too young, he should be mid 30s at least, he was a patriarchal figure. And I never recognised Jessica as a blonde....

    6. Re:Dear god no... by myom · · Score: 1
      The cast seems to be taken from a big jar with bingo balls with names of bland young actors and actresses.

      The guy from the Gillette commercials seems to have been drawn twice by the Bingo machine and plays
      both the roles of Mr Fantastic and Human Torch.

    7. Re:Dear god no... by xstonedogx · · Score: 1

      The sad part: To lots of kids this lot will BE the FF.

    8. Re:Dear god no... by jim_v2000 · · Score: 2, Funny

      But notice, it said that she can make other things invisible too...so hey, maybe something will work out there...no pun intended ;)

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    9. Re:Dear god no... by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Don't know who the Fantastic Four are?!?!
      I can only guess that you live in a country/region where for some odd reason Marvel didn't ship as many F.F. comics as thier other lines.
      Kinda wierd idea though considering it was a pretty important title. It was the FF the got Marvel back into the Super Hero bussiness in the early 60's, they had gone to monster/horror type stuff when the superhero comics became on of the 'satan worshiping/mind controll/reason teenagers behave like teenagers' things of thier time (much (A)D&D of the 80's or rock and roll, etc.)
      To give you a clue to the FF's influence I suggest you look at both Darth Vaders outfit and Dr. Victor Dooms outfit, then consider Dr. Doom predates Darth Vader by over a decade.
      Here's an interesting page google turned up: http://www.toonopedia.com/fant4.htm.

      Mycroft

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    10. Re:Dear god no... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      Jessica Alba may be a fine piece of ass, but she is totally wrong for this film, as is the rest of the cast. I almost wish this Hollywood comic book phase was over so they'd stop fucking with my childhood heros.

      Suit yourself. I'd fuck with Jessica Alba any day of the week.

    11. Re:Dear god no... by Gumph · · Score: 3, Funny

      well hopefully, we might be paying to see a wobbly outlined version of it - if you squint hard enough you may be able to make the lovely curvaceousness of it!

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    12. Re:Dear god no... by mahdi13 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I wish Hollywood would make a big budget action film about geeks bitching about everything under the sun.
      It was called Clerks
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    13. Re:Dear god no... by jdray · · Score: 1

      I didn't read FF very much in my comic-reading days, but weren't Mr. Fantastic and the Invisible Woman married and in their early forties? I seem to remember him having grey at the temples.

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    14. Re:Dear god no... by Mr.+No+Skills · · Score: 1
      Thing Detail

      The Thing's left hand seems to be separating from his arm.

      Lousy costume. Doesn't look near beefy enough to be the thing. The probably should have CGI'ed him. Original Look

      And someone needs to tell Jessica to stand up straight. A superhero needs to have at least a little athletic look to them.

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    15. Re:Dear god no... by bcrowell · · Score: 1

      Reed and Ben went to college together and then served in WWII, and the comic started ca. 1962 so they were both definitely at least 40 when the series started. Sue was younger than Reed, and they got married later in the series.

    16. Re:Dear god no... by dalmiroy2k · · Score: 1

      She is hot as hell. I prefer her as Susan than some dumb blonde like I don't know "The ring" slut or Renée Zellweger...

    17. Re:Dear god no... by Johnnlee · · Score: 1

      What do you mean he predates Darth by over a decade. That's an understatement: I read Fantastic Four comics with Dr. Doom when I was a kid and I'm about to turn 52. I will have to say that I do enjoy some of the "comics to movies" transitions that have happened but in the same sense I really hate it when they screw up the story lines. Who told them that the Hulk grew over 15 feet tall when he changed from Bruce Banner to the big green guy?? I was impressed with the Spiderman job. I can't wait to see if they attempt a movie of the original Justice League of America or the Metal Men. Even Iron Man or the Green Arrow would be cool! Just eating my lunch on my second job and thought I would drop a few lines. I've never done anything like this before but these old comic books got me through some tough times as a kid. Later all!!! Johnnlee

    18. Re:Dear god no... by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

      Well to be honest I was being a bit vague as I don't know exactly when Darth vaders 'look' or Dr. Dooms look was first decided on and figured someone would get pedantic with trivia and correct any specific statement.
      Going by public apearance it's about 14.5 years (nov 1961 to may 1976).

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  7. let me chnage that a bit.. by Tracer_Bullet82 · · Score: 1

    A classic group of beloved superheroes -AND- A nice set of...

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    1. Re:let me chnage that a bit.. by tukkayoot · · Score: 1
      A classic group of beloved superheroes -AND- A nice set of...

      ... super powers?

  8. On the set video by AIX-Hood · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yahoo has an "on the set" video available for those who don't feel like waiting: http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/fantasticfo ur.html

    1. Re:On the set video by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 1
      I stopped by to watch one night when they were filming a scene in Vancouver... Where Ben first (re)introduces his, uhm, new and improved self to his girlfriend. ( a somewhat delicate affair for someone with fingers the size of a baby's arm ).

      I won't say much more for fear of spoilers.

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  9. I can hardly wait! by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Hulk was such a smash hit. This is going to be 4 times better.

    Nothing at all like a weaker version of The Incredibles.

    1. Re:I can hardly wait! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I think when people look back at all the comic-to-film adaptations, that Hulk will stand as one of the stronger ones.

      For some reason the group mindthink took hold and people trashed it without giving it a fair chance (or even seeing it in many cases), but it is a good movie. It had innovative camera direction, shots and movement that paid homage to comic books while still retaining a strong dramatic storyline and acting.

      Personally, I think it was better than Spider-man, and is as good as X-Men...

    2. Re:I can hardly wait! by ikkonoishi · · Score: 1

      Me too. I mean what did people expect from the movie? Its a movie about a guy who goes nuts and smashes things, and there was a lot of nut going and thing smashing occuring. And in addition to that it had a plot which was a lot less crappy than it could have been.

      Sure the father's power was kinda stupid, but really you had to have a villian that give the Hulk a run for his money. Unless you wanted a crappy villian with the ability to make people rationally discuss their differences, using a gamma mutant was the only way that didn't involve setting up a completely unrelated backstory.

    3. Re:I can hardly wait! by RSevrinsky · · Score: 3, Funny

      HULK SMASH HIT!

  10. Soooo. by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Sooo....which do we think is the more likely scenario:

    Scenario A) People who want to see the trailer will force themselves to go see Elektra, which they had no interest in before, only because Fox is so desperate to make some money on Elektra that they would go so far as to try to deny the power of the internet.

    Scenario B) There will be a torrent posted here in 3...2...1...Who knows, we might end up with a torrent to the entire movie here before it has even been completed. Thus is the power of the internet.

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    1. Re:Soooo. by Captbaritone · · Score: 1

      Must find torrent... Must post on /. .... must prove power of internet. *wanders off into internet*

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    2. Re:Soooo. by (trb001) · · Score: 1

      before it has even been completed.

      whoah, Mr. Rental flashback...

      Dark Helmet: How could there be a cassette of Spaceballs-the Movie. We're still in the middle of making it.

      Col. Sandurz: That's true, sir, but there's been a new breakthrough in home-video marketing.

      Dark Helmet: There has?

      Col. Sandurz: Yes. Instant cassettes. They're out in stores before the movie is finished.

      --trb

  11. Mod this post... by MonkeyBot · · Score: 5, Funny

    -1 FLAME ON!!!

  12. Re:Classic Cartoons by bhadreshl · · Score: 1

    Meant to say Classic Comics/Cartoons because the Cartoons were based on Comics.

  13. Sounds good, but... by bennomatic · · Score: 1
    ...after the travesty that was Daredevil, I'm not sure I can bring myself to go see Elektra. Pity, I had high hopes for both movies, being a fan of the original comic book stories...

    I swear, they're just doing something right with Spiderman. Even X-Men was just OK, I thought. Even the off-beat comics-to-movies (Ghost World, American Splendor) really only have appeal to total afficianados.

    I'm certainly looking forward to Sin City, tho. Maybe there'll be an adaptation of some of the more oddball comics, like Mr. Natural or the Freak Brothers.

    Ah, memories of my misspent youth...

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    1. Re:Sounds good, but... by Coryoth · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm certainly looking forward to Sin City, tho.

      I must admit that Sin City is one of the few upcoming "comic book adaptations" that I'm actually contemplating seeing. Most everything else looks to be drivel in the same mould as Daredevil and Hulk. Comic book based films haven't generally proved to be as bad films based on computer games, but they do seem to do a fine job of butchering them none the less. The problem mostly seems to be that the filmmakers don't seem to get the comics - they seem to presume that if you translate the characters and something resembling the storylines over they've got all they need. What they lack is the feel, the spirit, the essence, the thing that gave the comic interest and vitality. I have to credit Sin City, because from what I've seen of the previews, at least they're trying to actually translate the feel and the style to screen. Whether it works is yet to be seen, but at least it doesn't look like every other standard Hollywood film.

      Jedidiah.

    2. Re:Sounds good, but... by Badfysh · · Score: 1

      In addition to Sin City they're also filming Watchmen and V for Vendetta, two of my favourite Alan Moore stories - please, please don't let them screw it up..

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    3. Re:Sounds good, but... by biglig2 · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the upcoming Keanau as John Constantine.

      I'm actually hoping they've messed with the story to make the character a yank, just so Mr. R does not attempt an english accent again.

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    4. Re:Sounds good, but... by m50d · · Score: 1

      Spiderman was going great right up until the end of Spiderman 2. Now I fear that spiderman 3 will be a sappy sentimental flick that bears no resemblence to the comics. I'll still go and see it though.

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    5. Re:Sounds good, but... by dabigpaybackski · · Score: 1
      Don't forget the upcoming Keanau as John Constantine.

      Forgetting to see a movie with Keanu in it is not necessarily the problem. Trying to forget that Keanu was in the movie is the problem. Believe me, I'm still trying to put behind me the memory of his attempt at a British accent in Bram Stoker's Dracula.

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    6. Re:Sounds good, but... by Gumph · · Score: 1

      ...sappy sentimental flick

      Errm have you actually READ much spidey? He's about as sappy and sentimental as they come - how many times can one man say 'with great power comes great repsonsibilty' anyhow?
      give me the X-men any day.

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    7. Re:Sounds good, but... by Gumph · · Score: 1

      please, PLEASE, don't mention the canoe again. I am feeling far too sensitive to contemplate his sheer lack of talent.
      John Constantine is a Liverpudlian with blonde hair - Canoe is a yank with black hair and he may as well be not trying to do an english accent it sounds that p155 poor. I saw the trailer and wanted to rip out my eyes.
      Sorry but I need to go lie down now.

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    8. Re:Sounds good, but... by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      Well, change of hair colour I can live with. And a total change of appearance as long as they don't make him too clean. But they really should have got a brit. Or at least an actor.

      I think they changed the character to an American. Which is typical laziness on Hollywood's part. It's not like there's a shortage of British actors. There's even quite a few American actors who can do a decent accent.

    9. Re:Sounds good, but... by Cat_Byte · · Score: 1

      His southern accent in 'The Devils Advocate' was even worse.

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    10. Re:Sounds good, but... by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      There's more than those two. How about Ewan McGreggor and Pierce Brosnan? And we only need someone who can play British. Elijah Wood and Sean Astin must both be big names after LotR. Are the McGanns known outside Britain? Ioan Gruffudd is British, and was seen as good enough for Fantastic Four. Personally, my top choices would be Jack Davenport or Sean Bean. Admittedly, they're not huge names, but neither were Toby MagGuire or Ron Perlman. People still saw the comic book movies with them in.

    11. Re:Sounds good, but... by hal2814 · · Score: 1

      The cold war was a big part of the Watchmen. That kind of makes it hard to adapt. You can try a few of things:

      1. Use something else (war on terror?) to take its place.

      2. Set the story back during the cold war.

      3. Ignore the serious cold war themes entirely.

      IMHO, Options 1 and 3 will ruin the movie. I like Option 2 but that's going to bring up parts of the 70's and 80's that are not glamorized today (i.e. There isn't an "I Love the Cold War"). This would mean that either the majority of the younger audience will be alienated or there will be entirely too much of the movie devoted to explaining the nuances of the cold war.

      In short, I think that Watchmen will be screwed up seriously. That's very sad because it is one of my favorite comic book series (or do you call that a mini-series?).

    12. Re:Sounds good, but... by Dexx · · Score: 1

      They're doing more than trying to translate the feel and style to screen - Frank Miller has a co-director credit for Sin City. Check out the IMDB info & credits.

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    13. Re:Sounds good, but... by VAXcat · · Score: 1

      That would be great. It reminds me of the episode of the Freak Brothers where they decided to quit drugs. In each panel, things got more and more "real" looking, until near the end, when the panel was an actual photo of three guys sitting around a table, who looked just like the Freak Brothers. Then, "Klang! Honk! Tweet!", and they were back to their normal, cartoon drawn selves.

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    14. Re:Sounds good, but... by Badfysh · · Score: 1

      If I remember the comic books correctly, Harry Osbourne does come back as the Green Goblin - the Hobgoblin is a different character.

      --

      I was conned by an old man in a cloak. It turns out those *were* the droids I was looking for.

    15. Re:Sounds good, but... by Badfysh · · Score: 1

      Actually, when I was watching the DVD back I noticed Venom in the opening credits. With the idea of Venom being in Spidey 3, I would bet my shirt that when Mary Jane kisses the recently returned from space astronaut, then Peter Parker, she is actually passing Venom on. Originally Spider-man got Venom from a trip into space with the X-Men but obviously they can't do that for licensing reasons.

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    16. Re:Sounds good, but... by orcrist · · Score: 1

      Originally Spider-man got Venom from a trip into space with the X-Men but obviously they can't do that for licensing reasons.

      Wait, wasn't that the trip into space with half of Marveldom? Where everyone was transported to some weird planet to fight in that tournament and Spidey gets the black costume? Or am I mixing storylines up? It's been a long time (I stopped collecting mid-80's).

      -chris

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    17. Re:Sounds good, but... by Badfysh · · Score: 1

      That sounds about right, Spidey steps into a black puddle - it becomes a living costume which he can call at will and adds more strength and powers, until it tries to take him over. One of the best villains in my book.

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      I was conned by an old man in a cloak. It turns out those *were* the droids I was looking for.

    18. Re:Sounds good, but... by GileadGreene · · Score: 1

      The original Burton Batman did a pretty good job of capturing the "feel" of Batman (at least for me). The 2nd Batman was even better in that regard. Then the franchise went sharply downhill (although I've heard some good things about the upcoming Batman movie with Christian Bale). For that matter, "The Rocketeer" was a halfway decent (though sadly obscure) film translation of a comic/graphic novel. Having said all of that, you're right that the majority of the Marvel-sanctioned stuff that's been coming out lately is pretty lame.

  14. Re:Classic Cartoons by AIX-Hood · · Score: 1

    Yes, and er.. yes. :)

  15. Re:Classic Cartoons by Per+Abrahamsen · · Score: 1

    Comic books, not cartoons.

    Hellboy, From Hell, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen are a few of the movie adaptions of comic books you missed (these have never been adapted as cartoons).

    Neil Gaiman suggested that the reason Hollywood like comic books as source material, is that Hollywood produceres don't like reading books.

  16. All I can say is... by eingram · · Score: 1

    Please. Don't. Suck.

    But so far, the movies with some variation of the word "man" in the title have only done well. So, like even numbered Star Trek movies, only expect Marvel films to be good if they contain "man" or "men" in the title.

    But there is always an exception (for example, Star Trek: Nemesis wasn't that great). Maybe the exception will be the Fantasic Four movie. Or maybe they can rename it, "Three Fantasic Men, and one Fantastic Woman."

    Or maybe I'm a freak. Just please, please don't suck.

    1. Re:All I can say is... by Glowing+Fish · · Score: 1

      "Three Fantastic Men, and one Fantastic Woman"?
      Sounds like it would be awesome, if you are into "adult" films.

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    2. Re:All I can say is... by CrackedButter · · Score: 4, Funny

      More so when one of them men gets really long, one gets really hot and the other gets really big.

    3. Re:All I can say is... by fgb · · Score: 1

      yeah, but then the one woman turns invisible and it just looks like three guys jerking off.

    4. Re:All I can say is... by ghjm · · Score: 1

      Which certainly explains why the woman would want to be invisible.

    5. Re:All I can say is... by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      I thought the Punisher was pretty good, and it doesn't fit in with your rules.

    6. Re:All I can say is... by Boglin · · Score: 1
      How about Catwoman?

      Or does this only apply to Marvel characters?

    7. Re:All I can say is... by mink · · Score: 1

      What version?

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    8. Re:All I can say is... by snuf23 · · Score: 1
      "Star Trek: Nemesis wasn't that great"

      Hahahahahhahaa! Whew! Yeah that's one way to put it. Come on it had a gay, goth, romulan cloned Picard! So you can either herald it as one of the greatest bad movies of all time or you state that it should have never been made.
      I see no middle ground here.

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    9. Re:All I can say is... by eingram · · Score: 1

      Those are DC comics, not Marvel.

  17. heh by aztektum · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They're trying to churn up some ticket sales to Elektra

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  18. Re:Classic Cartoons by giginger · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Fantastic Four was done years ago already. It was so horrifically awful though that it was never released. The rumour is that the studio only made it so they could keep the rights to make it at a later date. The power of the internet brought that film to my computer when I accidentally used a Bit Torrent. I can inform you that it was terrible and that I loved it for that reason alone.

  19. Why there called teaser trailers by zenst · · Score: 1

    Because they show you what a fun good film could be then show you the main feature which is usualy nowere as as good as the trailer you just saw.

  20. Re:Classic Cartoons by Daengbo · · Score: 1

    "Miramax? I thought they only made classy movies, like The Crying Game."

    "Yeah, but after they made She's All That, it was all downhill."

    Heck Bluntman and Chronic even got a movie of their own. This is not news.

  21. Will we see it in Europe? by Dr.Opveter · · Score: 1

    Superman, Batman, Spiderman, X-Men, Hulk.. Those i actually had comics of when i was a kid, i think they are well known names around the world.
    I might be wrong but i think Fantasic Four doesn't have such a big audience on this side of the Atlantic (i don't think Daredevil did well in Europe either, did it?)

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    1. Re:Will we see it in Europe? by Fire+Dragon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      (i don't think Daredevil did well in Europe either, did it?)

      Don't think that it did so well in Europe, it is not that here wouldn't be any fans, but who would like to see a crappy movie.

    2. Re:Will we see it in Europe? by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 1

      Wow that's weird as the Fantastic Four were basically the foundation for Marvel Comics. I never read any DC Comics so Superman and Batman were just movies to me.

  22. Shades of "Meet Joe Black"? by SensitiveMale · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sad when you have to use a trailer in order to sell tickets to a crappy movie.

    And Elektra is GREEK! Geez.

  23. Re:Classic Cartoons by NecroPuppy · · Score: 2, Informative

    It was actually released to video, but then the video was pulled.

    You can still find copies at gaming conventions.

    All likely to be illegal, mind you, but that doesn't stop copies from being sold.

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  24. The humanity! by trawg · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Only moviegoers attending Elektra showings will get this first look at Fox's epic incarnation of Marvel's first family of comic superheroes."
    Oh no! I hate it when I get denied easy access to watch advertising. I'll be queueing up to see this movie now!

    I find it inexplicable that movie producers don't let their trailers out into the wild of the Internets. If you want to put movie trailers on your website, you have to go through this incredible rigmarole - in Australia you have to purchase a license from APRA (the Australian Performing Rights Associaton), and then obtain permission from the owner/distributor of the movie to make their trailers available (legally).

    When you consider that these things are essentially glorified ads, then it is somewhat irksome.
  25. Elektra = Catwoman 2 by Coldglow · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I guess they are still trying to milk this dead cow. Hot chick just about naked. Running around with the cameras trying to catch every angle. The only problem is she is not naked.

    1. Re:Elektra = Catwoman 2 by will_die · · Score: 1

      IIRC, the DVD of catwoman is coming out the same week.

  26. So who plays Galactus? by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 4, Funny

    Between Kingpin being black, and Sue Storm being Latina, I can only assume Galactus will be played by a jew. I suggest Al Franken. He rocks.

    (Yes, I am joking... I'm usually PC, but I'm just looking for an excuse to peddle the idea of Al Franken as Galactus.)

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    1. Re:So who plays Galactus? by NJVil · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, if you're looking for someone to act as the Eater of Worlds, may I suggest Rush Limbaugh:

      http://www.e-sheep.com/rusheats/000.html

    2. Re:So who plays Galactus? by Gumph · · Score: 1

      I think you have an excellent point and it should only be taken partly as a joke as it is a serious point put across using sarcasm. (one of my favorute forms of communication btw!)
      it is not a case of being PC or not. In the comics the kingpin is not black, he is white (actually I think he is a quarter asian - someone with a better memory can correct me on that)
      Catwoman is also white not black, thank you Ms. Berry.
      Is it wrong that I want comic characters to be played by people who ACTUALLY look like the characters they are portraying? Particuarly as these characters are from a visual medium and so there is plenty of references on how they should look.

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    3. Re:So who plays Galactus? by straybullets · · Score: 1

      In the comics the kingpin is not black, he is white (actually I think he is a quarter asian - someone with a better memory can correct me on that) Catwoman is also white not black, thank you Ms. Berry. Is it wrong that I want comic characters to be played by people who ACTUALLY look like the characters they are portraying?

      Well, yes : It's wrong. If you want something that is exactly the same, why not stick with the comics ?
      That's what I do, since all these comic adaptions suck anyway.

      Now if you're willing to go with the movies, there's gonna be a lot of differences anyway, and bringing up some white/black/half asian issue here seems really pointless . The way they look is more defined by acting, attitude, some special words they say et al

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    4. Re:So who plays Galactus? by jdavidb · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, believe it or not, The Thing is Jewish. (Another article.)

    5. Re:So who plays Galactus? by Gumph · · Score: 1

      I would say it is important that they look AND act how they should when acted out on film, but also do something new that the comics have not done.
      IMHO the X-men movies have done exactly that, they have shown the usual heroes we all know and love but in a different way. e.g. it is nice to see Rogue before she absorbs Ms. Marvel's powers i.e. to delve into her real mutant ability rather than just being a strong flyer who is also pretty invulnerable. To my mind, this would not have been as good if she was a Canadian accented oriental dwarf (not that there is anything wrong with such a person - but that person is not ROGUE).
      I appreciate I am not really adding anything new from what I said before except I do stick with the comics, but I would also like to see new ways of portaying the comic characters without destroying the originals.

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    6. Re:So who plays Galactus? by Boglin · · Score: 1
      Galactus stares into a mirror:

      I'm no longer going to try and calm my self by binging on planets. I know I've done that before, but that's okay, because I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and, doggonit, people like me

    7. Re:So who plays Galactus? by hcduvall · · Score: 1

      I'm more concerned by the fact that half the people picked can't act.

    8. Re:So who plays Galactus? by Johnny5000 · · Score: 1

      Catwoman is also white not black, thank you Ms. Berry.

      Well, Eartha Kitt played Catwoman on Batman in 1967, and she's black. So a black Catwoman isn't unheard of, or a new development.

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    9. Re:So who plays Galactus? by babbage · · Score: 1
      To my mind, this would not have been as good if [Rogue] was a Canadian accented oriental dwarf (not that there is anything wrong with such a person - but that person is not ROGUE).

      Well, that's just it. Most of X-Men's popular characters have well defined backgrounds. To be portrayed convincingly, you'd need an actor that can plausibly appear to have the same background: Nightcrawler would have to look like someone from central Europe (probably white; Storm would have to pass for Egyptian (probably black or Arab), Rogue would have to look like someone from southern Louisiana (probably white, maybe black), and Logan would have to look like someone from northern Canada (probably white, maybe native American).

      Other characters don't have as well defined back stories, and could be played by anyone who can get the personality right. None of the original characters -- Jean Grey, Professor X, Scott Summers, and Hank McCoy -- really has a clearly defined background in the same way that the later ones did. While they were all drawn as white people, any of these early characters could be played by a non-white actor.

      Note also that casting happens in a broader context: the director is always going to have a limited pool of actors available, and not all of them are going to be perfect fits for characters that the audience is already familiar with (unless you're talking about Harry Potter, in which case pretty much every British actor in the world seems to be willing to take a part). In some cases, the best actor for a part doesn't fit the audience expectations, but can do a good job anyway. For example, in 1990, one of the main parts in Miss Saigon was given to Jonathan Pryce, a white actor, because, in the opinion of the director, he was the best fit for the role. And maybe he was -- he's a fine actor -- but it generated a lot of protests at the time. Whether or not those objections are fair is a subjective matter, depending in part on how much that character's identity depends on ethnicity. If memory serves -- I can't find a URL backing this up, so I may have it wrong, but I'm pretty sure -- a court agreed that it didn't matter, and the show went on.

      So it was, a decade later, with X-Men, and now, with Fantastic Four...

    10. Re:So who plays Galactus? by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

      Is it wrong that I want comic characters to be played by people who ACTUALLY look like the characters they are portraying?

      The guy who plays J. Jonah Jameson was spot on.

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    11. Re:So who plays Galactus? by Gumph · · Score: 1

      yes indeedy, he was probably the highlight of the movie - Doc Ock was pretty good as well - certainly looked enough like Roy Orbison to qualify!

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  27. Four by fiskbil · · Score: 4, Funny

    Am I the only one who read "Gang of Four" and then quickly started thinking about design patterns? I probably need professional help.

    1. Re:Four by obender · · Score: 4, Funny
      Am I the only one who read "Gang of Four" and then quickly started thinking about design patterns? I probably need professional help.

      This is Slashdot where professional help is always available. Which design pattern in particular you need help with?

      Oh, not that kind of help ...

    2. Re:Four by babbage · · Score: 1

      Yes. Clearly you should have been thinking of punk bands, not software :-)

  28. Trailer of the Fantastic 4 (era 1992) by Coldglow · · Score: 1

    http://www.videoaddicts.com/catalogs/vhs/camp/f4bo otleg.htm

    1. Re:Trailer of the Fantastic 4 (era 1992) by Coldglow · · Score: 1

      videoaddicts.com/catalogs/vhs/camp/f4bootleg.htm

  29. Re:Love being Australian by Badfysh · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I think you meant: Cool! Everyone outside of US will hear how bad it is and not waste their money going to see it 6 months after its released. Rock on!

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  30. I dunno... by ChuckleBug · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As a kid, my favorite comics were Siler Surfer, Captain Marvel (Marvel's Captain Marvel, whom they killed off), and the Fantastic Four. So a large part of me eagerly anticipates this, but I also can't help but wonder...Do we REALLY want cinematic versions of every frickin' comic and TV show? Maybe Hollywood could stick to ORIGINAL ideas?

    Yeah, I know... Canned ideas mean more $$$$.

    Still, can't they just leave some things be?!

    I'm honestly torn about this.

    1. Re:I dunno... by Jesrad · · Score: 1

      A couple days ago I was teasing myself with how good a movie based on McMaster-Bujold "Spirit Ring" could be.

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    2. Re:I dunno... by stromthurman · · Score: 2, Informative

      I remembered seeing a preview for a Fantastic Four movie on a VHS many years ago, it looked terrible, and I never heard anything more of it. It apparently turns out that a movie was made in 1994 and, I guess, never actually released. IMDB (the link) provides some insight into why it wasn't, and what the goal was originally. So, Hollywood will not only steal your childhood and market it to you again later on, it will also steal your childhood for the sake of marketting it to itself! Hooray for Earth!

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    3. Re:I dunno... by mshiltonj · · Score: 1

      Do we REALLY want cinematic versions of every frickin' comic

      I won't be satisfied until I see 'Secret Wars' and 'Crisis Of Infinite Earth' on the big screen.

    4. Re:I dunno... by lovswr · · Score: 1

      Well yes (IMHO). SS was also one of my favorites (it was the first Marvel graphic novel that I ever bought...around 83 or so) I made joke eralier in this thread, but I really would like to see ROM, The Avengers (both East & West Coast & Nick Fury in particular) , more of the X-men (& especilly X-men villians. Damn it would be good to see that guy who controlled ship). Lets see, there is Venom (maybe in Spidey-3?), Sandman, The High Evolutionary, The Wraiths, Agatha Harkness, Her, Prince Namor-the Sub Marnier, & a host of other characters/titles that escape my memory rihgt now. In short I would like to relieve my childhood hobby of collecting comincs (yes, I had an orignal FF #7 & my mother threw it awat!!!!) & see how they translate into "real life".

    5. Re:I dunno... by jayhawk88 · · Score: 1

      Maybe Hollywood could stick to ORIGINAL ideas?

      That would be nice, but where are we going to find a time machine to take us back to 1945?

    6. Re:I dunno... by Ced_Ex · · Score: 1

      I wonder if they ever do a movie about the West Coast Avengers would Hawkeye be ever given the line:

      "West Siiiiiiiiddddeee!" while holding his fingers in a "W" shape.

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    7. Re:I dunno... by hiryuu · · Score: 1

      I remembered seeing a preview for a Fantastic Four movie on a VHS many years ago, it looked terrible, and I never heard anything more of it. It apparently turns out that a movie was made in 1994 and, I guess, never actually released.

      I remember seeing a poster for it for sale in some comic book shop or other, back in college, and the fella had talked about how rare it was but how it had no real value because no one seemed to want it. Said the flick was directed by Roger Corman (which is incorrect, as he only produced it), and said it was rumored to be awful, which is why it was never released.

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  31. Wing Commander : The Phantom Menace by Kaenneth · · Score: 2, Interesting

    recall folks buying tickets to Wing Commander, just to see the trailer for the new Star Wars movie?

  32. It certainly bears mentioning by Illserve · · Score: 4, Informative

    That the Serenity trailer will be airing in this movie also.

    1. Re:It certainly bears mentioning by jordand · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not anymore. Since Serenity was pushed back to September, the trailer will be attached to The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy in May, which seems to me a much better deal. When is a proper trailer for Hitchhiker's coming out, anyway?

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    2. Re:It certainly bears mentioning by mshiltonj · · Score: 1

      That the Serenity trailer will be airing in this movie also.

      Do you know if this is online anywhere?

  33. 4 bad signs regarding this movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    1) They're shooting in Vancouver. Not to disparage the incredible film industry up there. But one of Spider-Man's greatest assets has to be its adherence to New York being a backdrop to the life of Peter Parker. The stories are ridiculous, anything that grounds them deeper in reality, adds character, and boosts suspension of disbelief works. And in Spider-Man it does - the city is a supporting character.

    The problem isn't that they're shooting in Vancouver - it's that they're using it yet again to stand in for New York. Which only works in Jackie Chan movies where hovercrafts run rampant on the streets. There's something that's just too clean about Vancouver that doesn't translate and you know it, period.

    2) It's reeking of Punisher / Daredevil and not Spider-Man / X-Men. The major difference? At their core, the charcter arcs of the latter films are totally believable and relatable. The X-Men are every societal outcast. Spider-Man is the everyman with an incredible secret life who's really, really good at something but can never sell out because of a true, guilty conscience. And he happens to be a normal person. That's what makes these films work, period. The costume changes don't matter. It's truth to the story and how people respond to them. So much so, I like to call Spider-Man 2 "The Passion of the Peter Parker"

    The Fantastic Four's modern relevance and situational metaphors just aren't as compelling to a broader audience. Not in this shape and form. The lead performers may be suitable but no one has marvelled at their casting. When Hugh Jackman and Tobey Maguire first were shown as their characters, doubts faded. We knew they'd nailed the essence of their characters. Though Peter could use some more wisecracking.

    I think in everything I've seen that Chiklis gets it - but the rest of the actors strike me as just blank.

    3) The director made Taxi with Jimmy Fallon and Queen Latifah.

    4) Again, the director made Taxi with Jimmy Fallon and Queen Latifah.

    1. Re:4 bad signs regarding this movie by weeeee · · Score: 1

      They filmed some scenes in New York. In fact, they filmed a scene 2 blocks away from my house in Brooklyn. Something with a bar under the elevated subway.

    2. Re:4 bad signs regarding this movie by puppetman · · Score: 1

      I live in Vancouver, and a few months ago, my wife and I were heading out to meet friends for dinner. We walked through a section where they were filming the Fantastic 4

      I saw a NYC garbage truck, and NYC police car, flipped on it's back, all beat up.

      They'd also added a fake subway entrance (it looked way too small), and changed some signage on some shops.

      Unfort, Vancouver does look quite different from New York; I remember seeing Ebert review one of the first Jackie Chan movies that made it over here, and it was supposed to take place in New York. Ebert said something to the effect that he'd never seen New York without trash covering the street. It was Vancouver, of course.

      Interesting that you bring up X-Men as a great movie, and complain that location is important. Both X-Men movies were filmed in Vancouver.

    3. Re:4 bad signs regarding this movie by otis+wildflower · · Score: 1

      Ebert said something to the effect that he'd never seen New York without trash covering the street. It was Vancouver, of course.

      Someone else (who I plagiarized, probably Wil Wheaton ;) wondered in a review whether there were mountains in the Bronx.. Being that in several scenes in "Rumble in the Bronx" you could clearly make out Grouse Mountain.

      Then again, Sam Raimi shot Spiderman 2 in NYC and there was a remarkably improbable stretch of elevated R train in Manhattan..

    4. Re:4 bad signs regarding this movie by jmelloy · · Score: 1

      He was saying that Vancouver as a stand-in for New York sucks, not that Vancouver does.

      The only part of X-Men 1 that took place in New York was the fight at the Statue of Liberty.

      I can't think of anything from X-Men 2 that was supposed to be New York; plus, half the movie took place in Canada, so it's helpful to film there.

  34. Re:Classic Cartoons by fireboy1919 · · Score: 1

    You say it like it's some sort of collective who is doing everything. It's not. It's one guy. Well, one guy and all his peeps.

    Ever heard of Stan Lee, the creator of Marvel Comics? He's the producer of every single one of the movies you mentioned.

    Every ten years or so he makes another try at getting them popular again. Twice since the sixties the fad has reached the movie phase (this being the second time), and he rode the fad until it died out. No really new ideas - the ideas themselves are rather timeless - just a new setting. Peter Parker actually wore bellbottoms and had 70s hair last time.

    Another three decades or so and he'll probably make movies again...if he somehow finds a way to become immortal.

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  35. Re:Classic Cartoons by dabigpaybackski · · Score: 1
    Hollywood seems to be producing more and more movies based on classic cartoons. Spiderman, Daredevil, X-Men, Incredible Hulk, etc, etc(might have missed some here), and now The Fantastic Four.

    Indeed. And the world of hip-hop has as well, seeing as two different rappers (MF Doom & Kool Keith) have either used the name or likeness of Dr. Doom in thier work. MF Doom's recent album is replete with some pretty hysterical samples from the old Fantastic Four cartoon.

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  36. Re:Classic Cartoons by dabigpaybackski · · Score: 1

    I almost forgot to mention Dr. Strange and Silver Surfer movie projects. Miramax is planning to make a Dr. Strange flick, and 20th Century Fox has a script for Silver Surfer. I hope Fox gets Brian Singer (X-Men) to direct.

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  37. Re:Classic Cartoons by DataCannibal · · Score: 1

    I'm waiting for the Hollywood version of "Dennis the Menace" starring Sylvester Stallone as Dennis, Kevin Spacey as Dennis' Dad and Brad Pitt as Walter. Gnasher will, of course be provided by Hensons Animatronics.

    NB. US readers should not confuse Dennis the Menace from the "Beano" with the rather lame, tame Amercian copy of the same name.

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  38. What a great web site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
    First of all, the phoney windows message boxes with the "OMG YOU HAVE SPYWARE" ads.

    Then the inability to right-click on the ads to do "block images from this server" in Mozilla.

    Then the AWESOME refresh that happens after having the web page open a few minutes while reading the story, where it transfers you to some poker gaming site.

    Way to go, slashdot, you found a true winner this time!

    1. Re:What a great web site by Dr.+Manhattan · · Score: 4, Informative
      Then the inability to right-click on the ads to do "block images from this server" in Mozilla.

      Set up a bookmark (e.g. "Give me my button back!") with the content: "javascript:void(document.oncontextmenu=null)". You can click this to unbork such shenanigans.

      Can't take cradit for it, someone else told me about it. But it's cool.

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  39. Re:Classic Cartoons by dabigpaybackski · · Score: 1
    I'm waiting for the Hollywood version of "Dennis the Menace" starring Sylvester Stallone as Dennis, Kevin Spacey as Dennis' Dad and Brad Pitt as Walter. Gnasher will, of course be provided by Hensons Animatronics.

    I sense that you are attempting to mock my childhood heroes in some oblique way.

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  40. Re:Complete and utter morons. by Arminator · · Score: 1
    Step 3: Somehow profit. (When nobody saw the movie / game because nobody saw the trailer / demo).

    Somehow = Profit by blaming internet piracy and suing everybody for compensation or something...
  41. Enid Blyton by smallguy78 · · Score: 1

    Not to be confused with Famous 5 (http://www.techbooks.co.uk/amazon/fam-five.htm/) those fun-loving young rascals who crave danger and find themselves solving various mysteries along the way.

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    1. Re:Enid Blyton by Daagar · · Score: 1

      I thought that was called Scooby Doo?

    2. Re:Enid Blyton by smallguy78 · · Score: 1

      a british joke for children of the 70s/80s, so it had very limited appeal

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  42. Re:Classic Cartoons by DataCannibal · · Score: 1

    No I'm mocking Hollywood :-)

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  43. MPAAtrix has you by Antonymous+Flower · · Score: 1

    Selling movies by the commercials before them? No wonder the MPAA can survive by attacking its audiences. For every intelligent (albeit cynical) consumer there are many more who are obsessive and fanatical.

  44. To quote Seinfeld... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Serenity now!

  45. Re:Classic Cartoons by lovswr · · Score: 1

    I would pay a hunderd bucks to see an accurate real life Galactus (& not just his hand or something). How 'bout a little scene where The High Evolutionary & Galactus go at it? Or where the Hulk bends the Surfers' board, or maybe the scene where Reed Richards announces that, "Galatctus MUST LIVE!". (see how that ties into th end of the last X-men movie, what whith Dark Phoenix & all, tee-hee) The tie-in to other Marvel properties could be enourmous. Does anybody know if the Avengers are coiming to the big screen? The Scarlett Witch would be freaken' huge....(breasted that is). Actually if I had my druthers, I would want Lucas to make ROM right now. :)

  46. Actor Chris Evans, not DJ Chris Evans by Shaper_pmp · · Score: 1

    It's starring skinny annoying actor Chris Evans who's famous for Not Another Teen Movie, not the UK's fat, alcoholic ex-DJ Chris Evans, who's famous for being ginger. And a twat. Hope this clears up any confusion, but since I've seen at least three "celebrity" databases that confuse the two while looking for links for this posting, somehow I doubt it... <:-/

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  47. Re:Classic Cartoons by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

    "Dennis the Menace, The Movie"? That's a totally fscked up idea!

    They already did that horrible animation, didn't they? All the characters had cockney-lite accents, despite the fact the cartoon has always been created in Scotland (though, as they said, Dennis the Menace always came from where the reader came from, and the London-centric nature of British TV means that a London accent is 'generic').

    And they probably couldn't sell it as Dennis the Menace in the US, for the same reason that the American Dennis the Menace cartoon was shown on British TV as just "Dennis". (As someone pointed out, the American Dennis was just a mischevous kid; the British one *was* a menace).

    Brad Pitt as Walter the Softy? That brings to mind some sort of reverse Tyler Durden situation (Spoiler follows for the few that haven't seen Fight Club). Is Walter just a figment of Dennis's imagination, the soft side that he daren't expose?

    Oh yeah, and Kevin Spacey as Dennis' Dad is a great idea!

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  48. Can't view it in firefox by walterbyrd · · Score: 1

    Not on my debian box anyway. Can't view comedycentral clips either.

    *sigh*

    1. Re:Can't view it in firefox by joeljkp · · Score: 1

      I convert videos to Linux-friendly formats on my website. I can't seem to get to this Yahoo! clip to download it, but I'll attempt the FF trailer when it's released.

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  49. Re:Complete and utter morons. by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

    I don't understand exclusive anythings when it comes to advertising - from "exclusive" movie trailers to "exclusive" game demos.

    Because human nature being what it is, and rabid geeks being what they are, this makes a piece of advertising seem somewhat more interesting and desirable.

    It's like Gucci, or another luxury brand. If everyone had it, no-one would care (the Burberry brand in the UK has lost all cred for this very reason). But if something is 'exclusive' and hard to get, and the geeks have to put a little effort into seeing it, the perceived value goes up a lot, which rubs off onto the perceived value (and hence quality) of the film.

    Everyone else will get to see the same advertising puff in similar or identical form a couple of weeks later...

    It's the same with a lot of 'exclusive' crap. Personally, I couldn't give a damn about most of it.

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  50. Watch the SuperBowl for the Marvel-Visa ad... by DesScorp · · Score: 1

    Visa's doing one of their check card commercials featuring Marvel superheroes...sounds like they're putting some money into the costumes, so I'm hoping it's good (and funny). There are details for the ad here.You know the script already...

    "The Avengers can't worry about cash when they're fighting Ultron, so under his shield, Captain America carries the Visa Check Card. Because when Thor wants warm mead, the Broom Street Bar will take reservations, but they won't take American Express".

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    1. Re:Watch the SuperBowl for the Marvel-Visa ad... by Non+Est+Tanti · · Score: 1

      First American Express uses Superman in its ads, now this. Who's next? Richie Rich for Discover?

    2. Re:Watch the SuperBowl for the Marvel-Visa ad... by brassman · · Score: 1
      Cool! And canonical. There was an episode of Iron Man where the title character took an injured bystander to a hospital, and the admitting nurse asked "Who is going to cover this man's bill?!"

      So Shellhead whipped out his Avengers No-Limit Platinum card (issued to members by super-rich-guy Tony "Iron Man" Stark, of course) and muttered "I think I'll BUY this place."

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  51. Mirror Anyone? by Alan · · Score: 1

    Website slashdotted and no mirror in sight :( Anyone got a copy for us west-coast folks who just got up?

  52. don't mind me: just being pedantic... by ed.han · · Score: 1

    strictly speaking, hollywood didn't make clerks: kevin smith financed it on a credit card.

    ed

    1. Re:don't mind me: just being pedantic... by mahdi13 · · Score: 1

      I know, maybe that's why it didn't suck?

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  53. First Family of Comics? SHAZAM! by Guardian452 · · Score: 1
    I have to point out that the first family of comics is the Marvel Family. They started the superhero family biz in the 40s!

    http://members.ozemail.com.au/~scunge/shazam/

    That is, unless the term "first family" was being used in a presidential sort of way, but even then I'd give it to the "Big Red Cheese" and co.

  54. It this the same one they already made? by WareW01f · · Score: 1

    This was already made They just wouldn't release it. (Never saw it but, I've heard it was that bad. I mean, not even "direct to VHS" bad, but "burn the reel" bad.)

    You can see the trailer for the previous one at the begining of a flick called Carnisaur. (I'm ashamed to admit that I rented the movie not to watch it, but for the preview before it.)

    If anyone knows of a leaked copy of the other version, I'd like to hear first hand what the issues with it were.

    1. Re:It this the same one they already made? by filmguru · · Score: 1

      The version you're thinking of is the Roger Corman produced film from 1994. Apparently the special effects were so bad and the acting so cheesy that they scrapped the whole thing in between early marketing campaign and its release. Early teaser posters were sent out, and are now collector's items. The film is only available in bootleg, but I have seen DVD and VHS copies available on Internet auction sites.

      For more information on the Corman version, check out this review on Bad Movie Planet: http://www.badmovieplanet.com/3btheater/f/fantasti cfour.html

    2. Re:It this the same one they already made? by Luthair · · Score: 1

      I saw the interview of Stan Lee by Kevin Smith and Stan mentioned that the unreleased fantastic-4 movie was just to hold onto the license.

    3. Re:It this the same one they already made? by badsaj · · Score: 1

      According to Marvel, the Roger Corman version was never intended to be released. To keep their rights to it they had to make a movie. It was worth it to them to spend 3/4 of a mil or so to hold on to it. I have a copy on DVD, it's not that good. The effects were terrible.

  55. Re:Classic Cartoons by porges · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No, the TV movie of Dr. Strange used that title. Never heard of the other one, though -- interesting.

  56. I can't wait to see elektra by asoap · · Score: 1
    .. IT's just getting amazing reviews on rotten tomatoes.

    I'm seeing an oscar contender shaping up here...

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  57. With Jessica Alba in it... by SmokeHalo · · Score: 1

    I'm just interested in seeing the "fantastic two"!

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  58. Re:Classic Cartoons by furball · · Score: 1

    It's also a cheaper. Most comic books are written in screenplay format and the comic books themselves are great storyboards which they can use.

    Some revision of the screenplay original and they have themselves a working script.

  59. not mutually exclusive by GunFodder · · Score: 1

    There aren't too many ugly super heroes, especially the female ones.

    1. Re:not mutually exclusive by Feztaa · · Score: 1

      That's because all the ugly ones were too busy being super villains.

  60. Re:Classic Cartoons by JaredNYC · · Score: 1

    Although Lee is often credited with being the "creator" of Marvel Comics, he actually started working there as a copyboy when it was still known as Timely Comics, founded by pulp publisher Martin Goodman. Not to take anything away from Stan...he's certainly helped make Marvel the success it is today.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Lee

  61. Hurry and look! by Blitzenn · · Score: 1

    Hurry up and get a quick look at this site hosting the trailer before it is slashdotted too and gets pulled. http://www.themoviebox.net/movies/2005/DEFGH/Fanta stic-Four/trailer.php

  62. Re:Classic Cartoons by mink · · Score: 1

    Depending on the posters background, comic books are cartoons. Saturday morning tv entertainment is animated cartoons to a number of people. Check out any book on the "cartoon" industry and it will be about ink on paper/newsprint not ink on cell.

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  63. Re:Complete and utter morons. by mink · · Score: 1

    AMC theater chain is getting "exclusive" movie releases. I dunno what that means exactly, but I am not pleased if it starts turing into a world where I cant see the movie I want, in a good theater I want to be in.

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  64. Re:Hopefully it'll come out alright by Halthar · · Score: 1

    If the third movie doesn't have Phoenix in it, I will more than likely wait for video to see it. That teaser at the end of the second film was great, and I have been waiting for the third movie in the series since. Not for the sake of another X-Men movie (I enjoyed both of them), but for a movie with Phoenix in it.

    I still think they should do a Wolverine movie based on a graphic novel, or one of Wolverine and Kitty Pryde. Maybe I will get lucky and the third X-Men movie will have not only Phoenix but Kitty in it as well (More than just her running through some walls here and there). Even if her existance there causes some problems in relation to the timeline of the comics. I think it could work okay.

  65. Re:Just another crap movie by mink · · Score: 1

    Allready being done:

    Ring2
    Ju-on: The Grudge
    Dark Water
    and probably about 50 more horror films have been recently lifted from Japan or will be in the next 6 months.

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  66. Chik = the Thing = Goodness by ConsciousObjector · · Score: 1
    Michael Chiklis, of The Commish, the Three Stooges biopic, and The Shield, plays the Thing. 'Nuff Said.

    On a related note, visit http://http//movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/fanta sticfour.html for an on-set interview with the cast. Stan Lee even makes a cameo.

    Marvel seems to have learned its lesson from the abysmal Captain America movies from the 80's. In basing the plots off of the Ultimates storylines (updated for the modern era and simplified to move beyond comic book geekdom), Marvel's movies appeal to mainstream audiences without overly alienating Comic Book Guys.

  67. Too bad I'm still boycotting Marvel. by arthurh3535 · · Score: 1
    But their reprehensible lawsuit against Cryptic/NCSoft over City of Heroes just can't be ignored by me.

    Which is really sad, as I like Marvel's comics better than DC's for the most part.

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  68. Re:Classic Cartoons by dalmiroy2k · · Score: 1

    Yeah, It was available in sharereactor a few years ago, but I never downloaded it... :(
    The movie cost 4 millon dollars to be made.
    There is some info in imdb I think

  69. Oh! Oh! Oh, so bad! by murcon · · Score: 1

    Oh, yes. I have this on VHS, bought it off eBay in a very weak moment. I have watched it, and I can truly say ... the costumes of Ben Grimm and Doctor Doom are reasonably authentic, about what you'd expect on a Power Rangers budget. And the rest of this movie? Holy snot, it's bad. Take the worst movie you have ever seen, grab the "bad" knob, and twist it sharply to the left.

    The final scene will stay in my scalded brain forever: Reed and Sue are newlywed, and drive off in a limo with a sunroof. Reed waves to the camera as the limo recedes away from us. It looks like they took a six foot pole and mounted his tuxedo sleeve on it.

  70. I saw a different version by zrk · · Score: 1

    Where the leader of the "Impossibles" was flexible, but was a really smug SOB, his wife could only turn her facial skin invisible (exposing the muscles underneath), her brother whose skin would burn in normal air (and cause pain), and her dimwitted relative, whose body was one big callous. Mr. Impossible hired a bunch of super-scientists to help out in their secret research lab. Meanwhile, Hank was exposed to a chemical that turned his body into a living bomb...

    Oh Wait, that was on The Venture Brothers

  71. Casting call!! by catdevnull · · Score: 1

    Q: Why didn't they cast the Fabulous 5 from Queer Eye?
    A: They only needed ONE flaming super hero.

    (heh) ...besides, Jessica Alba in a skin tight suit couldn't be all bad ;)

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  72. Is it just me... by gidds · · Score: 1

    ...or does the title immediately remind anyone else of the Famous Five and the Secret Seven?

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  73. Mercedes McNab? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1


    Jessica Alba may be a fine piece of ass, but she is totally wrong for this film


    I thought I read Mercedes McNab (Harmony on Buffy) was cast as Susan Storm as recently as when Angel was canceled. She seemed picture-perfect for the role. I loved Dark Angel, but ... no.

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  74. Trailer Now up on Apple's Quicktime Site by glennrrr · · Score: 1

    http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/fantastic_four/ Does not look good...

    1. Re:Trailer Now up on Apple's Quicktime Site by glennrrr · · Score: 1

      http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/fantastic_four/

      Sorry. Now in proper URL form.

      And it still does not look good.