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Hibernation on Demand
Mr. Christmas Lights writes "Dr. Mark Roth at the
Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center
has successfully
induced
a state of reversible metabolic hibernation in mice
which (no surprise) is
getting quite a bit of publicity.
Attempts in the past have used cooling techniques, but Dr. Roth
uses hydrogen sulfide (80 parts/million) to basically put the warm-blooded mice
into an advanced hibernated state, with a drop from the normal
120 breaths/minute to less than 10. Core body temperature also drops
as low as 11C (50F) to match the ambient room temperature. The mice recover in about two hours once normal air/temperatures are applied,
with no apparent ill effects - apparently there is a mice IQ/motor-skills test.
In addition to the obligatory reference to
Woody Allen's
Sleeper movie, this has applicability for emergency rooms as it
would be beneficial to in ER medicine as a way of "buying time"
while diagnosis is performed."
If only we could put those dupes on ice...
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Thanks for another dupe (Front page news 36 hours ago).. Well, if nothing else, this one has a few more details.
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(O.o) This is Bunny. (> <)
Exxxtreme Dupes
"However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results" - Winston Churchill
...are apparently with Slashdot editors.
Depe of >UR:http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/ 04/22/0228226&tid=191&tid=14>
Foxed Design
... you spend the rest of your life smelling like rotten eggs because of the sulfide...
This hibernation thing really works. Seems like only yesterday that I went to bed after reading about this.
and come out when Linux is like Windows :) and BeOS is the new Linux.
http://www.anologger.com/
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
In further news, READ YOUR OWN FUCKING SITE once a day you stupid fuck.
Someone must have been test subject and hibernated through the previous instance of this story.
Oh MY FUCKING GOD HOW DID THIS GET THROUGH? The previous story couldnt have been more than 2 days ago. Ive had enough of this shit, Im handing in my slashdot ID, from now on I shall post anonymously as a Coward, and get modded up more. Christ, you people have turned this place into a fucking joke.
If moderators can moderate comments why can't they verify if the claims are true and just delete the dumb fuck editor's story and save them further embarassment?
I have never seen such a worse dupe in my whole life.
Posted by %s on Saturday April 23, @04:28AM ...
and @02:14 AM and
from the good-way-to-get-back-to-the-same-story-again dept.
"Mr. Lights Out" writes: "Dr. Kevorkian at the Public University of Transylvania Research Center has successfully induced a state of reversible metabolic hibernation in Slashdot editors which (no surprise) is getting quite a bit of publicity. So much so, in fact, that they are posting the story multiple times to the front page of the slashdot.org website. Attempts in the past to get dupes posted have met with little success, but Dr. Kevorkian uses carefully written story summaries (8 parts/day) to basically put the semi-warm-blooded editors into an advanced hibernated state, with a drop from the normal brainwave activity to almost nothing. Core body temperature also increases very rapidly as readers become incensed that the story has been repeated yet again. The editors recover in about two hours once actual different news becomes available, with no apparent ill effects - apparently there is a human being picking stories instead of an approval bot. In addition to the obligatory reference to DUPES, this has applicability for other web sites that can learn from Slashdot how to repeat stories and somehow still be popular."
And, as a good subscriber, I used the "tell us if there's something wrong with this" link to mail them about the dupe but no. They still have to post it.
Microsoft initiates legal action against the researchers for numerous violations of patents covering the Windows Hiberation feature.
Want to improve your Karma? Instead of "Post Anonymously", try the "Post Humously" option.
I was on hibernation long enough to get some fresh stories...
I'm already an AC, and even I'm getting tired of this crap.
each day at work ... I normally recover in time to go home without any ill effects and do not require the smell of rotting eggs.
I love stacking my barbecues in the shed at the end of summer - you can't beat a bit of grill on grill action.
So now i'll be able to bite his shiny metal ass!?
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Go canucks, habs, and sens!
THIS STORY IS A DUPE.....
Why do you people waste our time?
Do you slashdot editors really get PAID to be this stupid!!!!? WHY CAN'T I GET A JOB LIKE THAT?
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
to put millions of humans into hibernation in underground vaults while the people on the surface pollute themselves into extinction.
If nothing went wrong then they'd awaken x thousand years later and be repatriated. Or start a revolution. Or take down the Matrix. Or something...
--- Grow a pair, liberals... stop letting the Republicans bully you!
I dare every slashdotter who reads this to copy the story VERBATIM and resubmit it as a new story! That'll teach those editors (well, not really, who are we kidding, they are too stupid to know!)...
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
Just wait until Zonk dupes CmdrTaco's "Update For for the dupe. Not going well. Appreciate all the hate mail. Really encourages improvement.".
It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile
Be yourself no matter what they say
For chrissake, I mailed them about the story being dupe and the guys still post it...
They are very popular articles. Just look how many replies they get. Sometimes they even more than the original article. Not only that but there is an outpouring of emotion. So much anger is spawned from just a few clicks of the keyboard (ok maybe they just copy paste from the original post. I really dunno) Most importantly though it is the one subject that ALL Slashdotters can agree upon. Dupes are TEH Suck.
Just a thought. How about the next obvious dupe that comes along nobody reply. See if we can it to get off the front page without a single reply. It'll never happen but a man can dream.
...welcome our new dupe overlords, note their dupliciousness.
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Since this is a dupe (and a very recent one at that) and all we're going to hear is whinging about it being a dupe I figure why not make use of the space. I submit that we change the subject to something worthwhile discussing: Category: ASK SLASHDOT Subject: DUPE ARTICLES "With all of the fancy software and technology at their disposal, how is it possible for Slashdot to not have a "technological" system in place to ensure that dupe articles are not submitted to the front page? Are their systems too complicated to enable the development and use of a simple dupe article checker that would automatically search and warn of similar, perhaps identical, articles that have recently been posted? Is it that the cost of such software is prohibitive, or that they believe submission of dupe articles are considered "funny" to readers and therefore help the bottom line? Or is it pure laziness? Discuss.
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Im sick fed up of the constant row of "OMG DUPE yo idiotz" posts that follow. ....
a constant dupe of "this is a dupe" posts
People take your own advice and stop duping previous comments
The only things certain in war are Propaganda and Death. You can never be sure which is which though
Freezing stops many if not all of the biological processes in the body, including aging. Hibernation is just a (deep and prolonged) form of sleep. You do get older while sleeping. Comatose people also age normally. I doubt very much hibernation will be anything like the fountain of youth.
Parent should receive +1 for redundancy.
Ludwig Wittgenstein
I think it's time that there was an open discussion of dupes (This article is a dupe of one poasted last night).
There have been pro and against arguments. The pro argument have been that some people miss the original articles and have a second chance to post. The neutral argument has been that if one doesn't like the dupe, one should simpy ignore it. Both of these arguments make good sense.
However, slashdot is in some sense a commercial enterprise. The majority are, of course, not subscribers, but there must be quite a few all the same. Slashdot also gets paid by advertisers to get many hits. Advertisers could argue that they get less hits on dupe articles.
In these last two cases, it isn't exactly a shiny example of quality in a product (if one can look upin slashdot as a product) to see so many dupes. I know that the sheer number of dupes in slashdot would prevent me from subscribing as I see it as a problem of editors being disinterested in checking what they post.
I have occasionally noticed the smell of rotten-eggs out in userland.
I alwasy thought these people were just stupid - now I know they are hibernating at work.
Scientists have successfully induced hibernation in mice.
Why hasn't this been posted to Slashdot yet? It's viable news!
As if it wasn't bad enough for a *dupe* to be less than 2 days old, now they even mod your comments badly if you notice it. A 'Redundant' mod for more than a few comments.
If you have mod points and see the parent post at anything less than +5, mod it back up. We need these kinds of reminders.
dupedot
news for amnesiacs, stuff that blathers
Why has the parent been modded down to -1?
Nothing to see here, just toe the party line and praise Lunix and apostle Stallman. You shall be lavishly rewarded in karma.
I like dupes. It's always a trolls' field day and they are basically the reason I read /. these days.
Can we put all Mexicans, Chinese and Indians into hibernation, please?
I propose a running contest to see who can get the most dupes posted. At least this will provide some entertainment other than "You guys suck" posts.
This article has been sitting on top of the front page for ages without any updates or new stories and the thread has deteroriated into a complete trollfest because no-one is moderating the trolls down.
Why won't the Slashdot crew hire some European or Asian editors who'd take care of the riff-raff when they themselves are asleep?
Why aren't hibernating mammals eaten alive by microorganisms? (yes there was a discussion before) Well, apparantly their immune system is actually disabled. However, they wake up periodically, specifically to fight off any infections.
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Humans can't do this if their cytochrome C is inhibited by hydrogen sulfide, so if you ever do this with humans, you'd have to make sure they wake up periodically to prevent all kinds of nastyness.
Bats seem to have a different strategy. They stay in deep hibernation for prolonged periods up to 90 days, but their biochemistry changes quite drastically in order to do this. It's unlikely that human cells are able to change themselves so drastically.
http://physrev.physiology.org/cgi/content/full/83
I really wonder what would happen to a mouse if you induce hibernation for more than a month.
Buying hours and preventing damage would be a good purpose for artificial human hibernation, but I think space travel is a little far fetched.
...you would think that the editors would at least update the post with something like "sorry about the duplicate"
shit imagine if a newspaper did this??!!
You can tell I'm a nerd when my first thought when reading this isn't the Woody Allen movie, but instead is all of the many sci-fi stories that use chemically induced hibernation to aid in long-distance space travel.
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Well, lots of us do read every article.. and reading the same thread again is like reading pride and prejudice again for another english class... and for everyone else there's the 'Older Stuff' section.
Recent studies show that Slashdot dupes are responsible for 83% of broken Caps Lock keys.
...set of comments I ever read. Except for the one about waking up out of hibernation to fight off infections, I accually did not know that. If only other people could be so useful.
My brain is on fucking fire!!!!
Russians have been doing it during surgery since fifties. dupe dupe dupe
There is a different between hibernation and a coma or deep sleep. In a deep sleep or coma, your metabolism continues at its normal pace. In hibernation, the metabolism slows down drastically, causing lower energy consumption, lower cell death, and ultimately, slower aging.
If you like what I've said here, and want to read more, go to http://www.krillrblog.com
Good point about the low temp.
How about doing what no animal can do, and clean ourselves externally and internally before hybernating under aseptic conditions?
So I have a software based suggestion for how to ameliorate the dupe problem. My suggestion would add a step to both the initial submit of the story as well as to the post of the story. Additionally, the responsibility for preventing dupes is shared between the submitter and the editor.
1) User completes submission form
2) The user's write-up is compared to the last year or so worth of posts. (You could pull keywords from the submission, pattern match or use any number of other techniques.)
3) The user is presented with a list of similar articles
4) The user then reviews the list of articles
5) The user either abandons the submit as a dupe or continues/certifies the submit as not a dupe to the best of his/her knowledge
The editor would encounter a similar process (following steps 3-5). It is important that the editors follow this process as well to help them find and reject dupes that a submitter may not have (or chose not to) noticed.
This would probably not eliminate all dupes, but should help mitigate the issue.
Thoughts?
On the bright side, we could round up all our phone sanitizers and send them off to a new planet with this technology. . . we just have to do it before the third HHG2TG movie comes out and spills the beans on our nefarious plan.
You better watch out, there may be dogs about . .
Are you saying that you depend SO much on Slashdot that seeing a duplicate article is an enormous waste of time?
I have an idea... stop wasting time by reading Slashdot, and get back to work. Stop worrying about tiny details.
Attempts in the past have used cooling techniques
It was bad when Nazis did stuff like this.
Oh well, maybe we can all go back to sleep now ... ;-)
Hulk SMASH Celiac Disease
The primary components in farts are nitrogen, oxygen, and other odorless gases. The smelly bits, if it smells like "rancid butter", is butyric acid, along with hydrogen sulfide and carbon disulfide.
--grendel drago
Laws do not persuade just because they threaten. --Seneca
if the dumb fucks don't read their own site, they care even less to read the comments and therefore don't give a shit enough about the readers of the site to be embarrassed by anything they say. slashdot's been coasting for the last few years.. it was never all that great, just better than most out there. it's produced by people who have no clue as to what diligence means and no concept of trying to be the best at what you do. maybe that's why so many IT/"coding" drones like it so much.
Can't wait till someone submits a slashdot story to slashdot and it gets accepted. Recursive dupe!
it has more details and I don't really care anyways. You say it "wastes yoru time" but it's your fault you are replying.
Anyways back on topic; this is great. Just think about it. If you got some horrible deseise with no cure and you were frozen until a cure was found, would it matter if you smelt like rotten eggs?
You have been warned.
Looks like Zonk got out of his hibernation one day too late.
To hell with hibernation: if scientists feel the need to invent stuff in Woody Allen movies, how about starting with the Orb, or the Orgasmotron?
Oh, wait, too late: http://forums.applenova.com/archive/index.php/t-25 84.html
Theory and practice are the same in theory, but different in practice.
This is good for space travel, actually.
Just like a long sea voyage, when on a long space trip, your risk to new microorganisms is minimal. So you have less use for your immune system anyway.
I'm not saying you could hibernate for 10 years straight, but you could probably go a lot longer than you can on Earth without much increase in risk.
we need only some improvements. 1) moderators vote articel as dupe, all +5 comments are then automaticlly linked here aswell. 2) A dupecounter goes up by 1. Once it reaches a certain threshold (say, 1337), CmdrTaco gets a beating in front of TV by a bunch of fat chicks.
Lone Gunmen crew.
for Linux users
Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
My first thought was, "who is Woody Allen? Did he make movies?" (-:
the Internets are serious business.
Seriously.
I mean, if you continue as an AC you will still be jerking off their ad-servers (which gives them money). Want to make a rebellion? Give up visiting /. at all.
Furthermore, all you people complaining about the dupes, what's the point. I think it's kind of stupid too, but if they don't even glance at the front page, will they bother reading the comments? Maybe each individual editor looks at the comments for their own stories, but I kinda doubt it.
I think the reason it makes people mad, is cause they feel like they're relying on this site for technical foresight, and if they don't seem to care enough to prevent this kind of simple oversight, then what are the chances their putting in the effort for any of the site's content. I guess they're just phoning it in. Does the New York Times ever due the same story twice, and act like it's brand new each time?
How is this different than Yesterday's Story?
interesting the military funded this
imagine the "correctional" aspects - you would be sentenced to ten years in prison, put into a drawer in the wall, and withdrawn like a safe deposit box at the end of your time
and the prison staff could molest you at will, and you'd never be any wiser
or, just put all political opposition on ice until the war is over . . .
Ask Me About... The 80's!
Not that I am a medial doctor or anything but emergency room use just seems flawed. Hibernation really seems applicable to long term space travel (Mars anyone?). Cause hey, if the astronaut dosen't have to eat, weight can be saved.
"A language that doesn't affect the way you think about programming, is not worth knowing" - Alan Perlis
a constant dupe of "this is a dupe" posts
People take your own advice and stop duping previous comments
OK, get this, /. has a dupe comment detector ...
This exact comment has already been posted. Try to be more original...
How about using that same technology to the MAIN PAGE dipsticks?!
I would assume that it is hard to predict the possible brain death in a mouse/rat. Moving that forward to humans.... you go first... ;-)
:-( --- argh. Despair, I owe again.
Dear Editor, I must protest the idea of manually induced hibernation is an immoral use of science to alter the natural life processes that God.....ZZZZZZZZZZZZ
...geeks suddenly realize they can fart their dates into submission to have their way with them.
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