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New Lucas Headquarters To Open in San Francisco

Afroloop writes "This article (with pics) in the SFGate covers the opening of the new Lucas Headquarters in San Francisco's famous Presidio. It will house up to 1,500 employees by next fall. From the article: 'The Presidio will feature 600 miles of fiber-optic cable. 4,000 processors and 150 terabytes of storage -- massive computing power and speed, with the ability to work 10 times faster than they can today.'"

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  1. How callous and mirror of pics by winkydink · · Score: 4, Funny

    Lucasfilm President Micheline Chau says, "We do have to exist after George. He's not going to live forever. The man's in his early 60s."

    Geez! I mean dig a hole and send out the obits already! What's the matter, getting impatient?

    The pics are pretty non-exciting (an aerial shot of the Presidio, wide-angle shot of Presidio, outsdie shot of generic-looking hq bldg, pic of map showing location of Presidio, and a headshot of the man himself), but you can see them here if you want to decide for yourself.

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    1. Re:How callous and mirror of pics by stu_coates · · Score: 3, Funny

      When asked to comment, George Lucas said: "I've got a bad feeling about this." ;-)

    2. Re:How callous and mirror of pics by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      Micheline went on to say, "we must also bear in mind that creatively speaking, for all intents and purposes, Lucas has been dead for over 25 years now anyway. The computational horsepower of this new facility will greatly aid in producing eye candy based on 20 to 30 year old tv and movie ideas, in lieu of actual imaginative productions"

  2. That's funny. by xor.pt · · Score: 4, Funny

    Presidio means jail in Portuguese(from Brasil).

    1. Re:That's funny. by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 3, Informative

      "Presidio" means "military fortification" in Spanish.

      The Presidio used to be a Spanish military base, then a Mexican military base, and then I think it was briefly military base for California when we were briefly a soverign entity, and then finally, it remained an American military base from 1849 until the early 1990s.

    2. Re:That's funny. by ortcutt · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I know that the flag says "California Republic", but there was less than one month between Fremont's declaration of an independent California and Commodore Sloat's capture of Monterey, the capital of Alta California, and his claim of the territory for the US. It's very difficult to say that there was any independent California government in that intervening month or that it was a "California" military base in that intervening month.

    3. Re:That's funny. by richdun · · Score: 2, Funny

      Later, by the mid-22nd century, it became home to Earth's Starfleet Command, and when the United Federation of Planets was founded, became home to the UFP's Starfleet Command and Starfleet Academy.

    4. Re:That's funny. by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      I thought SFC was mainly south of the bridge. And yet, by the 26th century, it was just another Taco Borg franchise. At last the chain-wars were truely over. (The Borg lost.)

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    5. Re:That's funny. by flubbergust · · Score: 1

      They teach you how to kill with your thumb there.

    6. Re:That's funny. by Alexei · · Score: 1

      The presidio is south of the bridge.

  3. Hm. by DrEldarion · · Score: 1

    I think he should call it "Presumptuo" instead.

  4. thanks george by misterlump77 · · Score: 5, Funny

    and it's a half block from my apartment.

    there goes my rent...

    1. Re:thanks george by CSMastermind · · Score: 1

      Lucky you you get to be right next to the magic....Or um.....I mean I think nows the time to start leasing with the option buy. :-)

    2. Re:thanks george by cutecub · · Score: 2, Funny

      More like... there went your Rent.

      The Presidio borders the San Franciso Marina district, where a condo will set you back a million bucks. And a Studio Aparment rents for $1300-$1600 per/mo.

      Where, pray tell, have you been living in that area that's affordable up to now?

      No, Really. I need to find a new place.

    3. Re:thanks george by kesuki · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, Really. I need to find a new place.

      If you're looking for living on el-cheapo, outfit a nice, cheap fleet vehicle type van (they usually have a few unfurnished models in the fleet vehicle section that only have the captain's chair for furnishing) get the tinted window option, or just buy some mini-blinds, get a port-a-potty of some type (they sell things just for van owners that will probably work) install a bed, buy an annual membership at the Y (coz that's where you're gonna need to go to shower in the mornings or whenever you need to shower) and then buy/rent some kind of parking space that someone is renting out who dosen't have a clase saying they can kick you out for not leaving your vehicle while it's parked overnights etc.. TCO is probably going to be under $30,000 for 10 years of reliable dual use as house and transportation... the car's alternator can probably be used to keep a spare lead acid battery charged (when you drive) enough to run a low power notebook, or posibly even an imac g5.. you might want to find a shade filled place to park so that you don't die in the summer, and even then it'll still be hot, but you've got that cool ocean breeze, if you can find a shaded parking place near the ocean.

      And if you ever get laid off, you're ready to move anywhere in the us or canada you need to go to to find a job, as long as the town has a Y or similar place whhere members can shower day or night as they please...

    4. Re:thanks george by Palal · · Score: 1

      You're rent-controlled! Stop complaining!

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    5. Re:thanks george by Psiren · · Score: 1

      All sounds very nice, until some bastard steals it. At which point, you've lost not only your means of transportation, but also your house. Bugger.

    6. Re:thanks george by JargonScott · · Score: 3, Funny

      You can also throw footballs just over your camcorder, and dream of getting back to '82.

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    7. Re:thanks george by awtbfb · · Score: 1

      outfit a nice, cheap fleet vehicle type van

      an park it under a bridge, down by the river

  5. Marin County property drops in value... by schwep · · Score: 1

    for the first time ever due to the "massive departure."

    Ok, maybe not.

  6. Faster or Better? by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 4, Funny
    'The Presidio will feature 600 miles of fiber-optic cable. 4,000 processors and 150 terabytes of storage -- massive computing power and speed, with the ability to work 10 times faster than they can today.'

    Wow, so for every Jar-Jar rendered, there can be 10 more just like him! Flippancy aside, I do wonder that the ability to make eye-candy that much faster might actually have a negative effect on movie going.

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    1. Re:Faster or Better? by DrEldarion · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If you wanted to be optimistic, you could say that more power doesn't translate into more CG, but rather higher-quality CG.

      (Plus, it's near-impossible to put more CG in his films anyway...)

    2. Re:Faster or Better? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      the ability to work 10 times faster than they can today.

      In other words, if Moore's Law were to hold, this new facility would be obsolete in less than 6 years.

    3. Re:Faster or Better? by dabigpaybackski · · Score: 1
      Wow, so for every Jar-Jar rendered, there can be 10 more just like him! Flippancy aside, I do wonder that the ability to make eye-candy that much faster might actually have a negative effect on movie going.

      Chee-rist, I hope not. I'm still feeling after-effects from the scripts of Episodes I & II.

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    4. Re:Faster or Better? by hahiss · · Score: 1

      Not to mention that he'll need the render farm for converting all 6 of the Star Wars films to 3-D.

      http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2004580002-2005 220706,00.html

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    5. Re:Faster or Better? by LurkerXXX · · Score: 2, Insightful
      It will house up to 1,500 employees by next fall.
      150 terabytes of storage

      At first that sounded really impressive. Then I thought, I'm a geek who has two hard drives in my home desktop with a total of 500 GB of storage. Lucas is into storage of huge movie image sequences, and they only have 100 GB/employee of storage. Somehow I'd have thought they'd have more.

    6. Re:Faster or Better? by Trogre · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Perhaps one day they'll come up with a way to fix one thing that's always bugged me about the Tattooine sequences in old and new SW movies:

      Shadows.

      On a planet with two suns, all shadows cast would look deicdedly different from what we're used to. Going by the two shots that show the suns, they appear to be (impossibly of course) in the area of 10 sun radii apart. This would produce two sharp, light shadows for each object, with a darker patch where both shadows intersect.

      Because they were filmed in mono-sunned Tunisia, it would have been impossible to give the correct effect when filming the OT, and very difficult with the last 3 films. Even with current state-of-the art CG post-processing such a task would be very time-consuming, and would probably involve creating a 3D model of the objects and environment to get the shadow casting looking anywhere near realistic.

      Of course some shots would need to remain unaltered for artistic reasons (for example the shadowed Padme/Anakin hug on the igloo wall in AOTC), but you could use the justification that this was late evening and one of the suns may have already set.

      If done well, this would be one CG revision that I would welcome.

      I can't believe I just typed this.

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    7. Re:Faster or Better? by yppiz · · Score: 1

      The Presidio had 10+ terabytes of storage as of 1999 or 2000. It's where the Internet Archive and now-Amazon subsidiary Alexa Internet started.

      If I remember correctly, around 1999, they had approximately 2B web pages on disk in the most recent snapshot, with the previous two snapshots on disk and another n snapshots on tape.

      --Pat / zippy@cs.brandeis.edu

    8. Re:Faster or Better? by category_five · · Score: 1

      Networks are not governed by Moore's Law, instead there is Edolms Law, a theory on the growth of computer networks.

      "If we project forward, Edholm's Law says that in about five years 3G (third-generation) wireless will routinely deliver 1 Mb/s, Wi-Fi will bring nomadic access to 10 Mb/s, and office desktops will connect at a standard of 1 gigabit per second."

      --Steven Cherry - Edholm's Law of Bandwidth

      So while in 6 years Lucas's network may or may not be sufficient for his needs, by outside standards of network speed it will remain sufficient.

    9. Re:Faster or Better? by category_five · · Score: 1

      And if you want to be pessimistic you might wonder how an unremarkable comment could be marked +4 interesting, especially considering the advertisement in the sig.

    10. Re:Faster or Better? by HermanAB · · Score: 1

      Mammalian actors are an endangered species.

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    11. Re:Faster or Better? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
      Going by the two shots that show the suns, they appear to be (impossibly of course) in the area of 10 sun radii apart.

      Some scientists believe there's a third dimension (I know it souds crazy). I think they call it "depf" or something. It's a direction that is not sideways or upwards, but is a direction that is perpendicular to both, if that makes anysense..

      Anyway, the theory goes that two objects that are side by side can actually be very far apart in this third dimension.

    12. Re:Faster or Better? by Frostalicious · · Score: 3, Funny

      (Plus, it's near-impossible to put more CG in his films anyway...)

      He could create a CG director. Which might be a good idea actually.

    13. Re:Faster or Better? by DerekLyons · · Score: 1
      it will house up to 1,500 employees by next fall. 150 terabytes of storage

      At first that sounded really impressive. Then I thought, I'm a geek who has two hard drives in my home desktop with a total of 500 GB of storage. Lucas is into storage of huge movie image sequences, and they only have 100 GB/employee of storage. Somehow I'd have thought they'd have more.

      The problem is - that's an average. When you figure that 100 accountants will share 50 GB of space, and 100 HR people another 50GB...
    14. Re:Faster or Better? by halo1982 · · Score: 1

      Still, between my roommate, I, the ailing G3, and the MythTV box in the living room, we have 928GBs in our 2 bedroom apartment. And as soon as I can we'll be above a terabyte, and probably to two terabytes by the end of next year. And we're really poor. A paltry 150 terabytes...pfft! Maybe they'll rethink that.
      But whatever works for them...I guess they aren't storing 400 full TV series or insane amounts of porn.

    15. Re:Faster or Better? by dokkeri · · Score: 1

      Well I hope so because quality of CGI in these hasn't all been that good. Especially in the "droid workshop" scene in Attack of the Clones. Just about everythin in it look plasticcy and fake.

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    16. Re:Faster or Better? by Gumph · · Score: 1

      928GB?? I hope you have a good backup strategy for all the pr0n!

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    17. Re:Faster or Better? by hanshotfirst · · Score: 1
      If you're replicating eye-candy, replicate Natalie Portman!

      That should have a positive effect on movie-going.

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    18. Re:Faster or Better? by Trogre · · Score: 1

      A bit difficult to use puny studio lights when you're filming in the desert under a blazing sun.

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      "Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
    19. Re:Faster or Better? by MayorDefacto · · Score: 1
      If you're replicating eye-candy, replicate Natalie Portman!

      Just make sure you have the processing power to also replicate hot grits and... nevermind...

  7. Pride and Presidio by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Funny

    Don't be so proud of this technological terror you've constructed... the ability to make two out of your past three movies suck galactic superclusters through buckytubes is insignificant next to the power of the Farce.

  8. Leather Pants by flood6 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So San Franscisco is going to solidify it's position as a Meca for those "outside the mainstream"?

    1. Re:Leather Pants by winkydink · · Score: 2, Funny

      You haven't spent much time there, have you? Ayy more solid and they'd have to invent another state of matter just to describe it. :)

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      "I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey

    2. Re:Leather Pants by flood6 · · Score: 1

      Before any of you heartless bastards point it out, I misspelled "Mecca" and "its".

    3. Re:Leather Pants by wheelbarrow · · Score: 1

      What do you mean by this? If you were mayor, would you block the move? Why?

    4. Re:Leather Pants by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 1

      There are like a billion such Meccas. If by "outside the mainstream" you mean "creative", then yeah maybe. If you mean outside of the creative mainstream, then no, not necessarily.

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    5. Re:Leather Pants by Moofie · · Score: 1

      If you think there's just one place you can go to be outside the mainstream, you're simply in a different mainstream.

      The classic dilemma of the "alternative"...how do I really be different?

      (answer: Don't let other peoples' opinions motivate your actions)

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    6. Re:Leather Pants by SFSouthpaw · · Score: 1

      We're so outside the mainstream you could put every character from all 6 SW films in some of the bars downtown and they wouldn't even be the weirdest looking ones there.

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    7. Re:Leather Pants by th3space · · Score: 1

      So, by mainstream...you mean what, exactly? If it is tangible, then where do I find it so that I may do as the bears do and use it as my own personal bathroom?

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  9. Re:I feel peace in the force at last. by ArAgost · · Score: 1

    Peace? Well, maybe he should have considered choosing something different from a word which (in italian, but I assume also in spanish) means "garrison". Is he preparing to fight the hordes of raging SW fans? :^)

  10. I was scared for a second... by HotNeedleOfInquiry · · Score: 1

    I thought they meant Lucas Electric, that Brit company that built electrical auto parts that crumbled to dust. You know the jokes, why do Brits drink their beer warm? They have Lucus refrigerators, etc, etc.

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    1. Re:I was scared for a second... by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

      I've actually never had a warm beer, someone let me know where this happens? Oh and while were on the subject, my area is full of bloody dentists, there's several on a street in some cases!

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    2. Re:I was scared for a second... by Col.+Bloodnok · · Score: 1

      English beer is usually served at cellar temperature - cellars (anywhere in the UK) are seldom warm, but their certainly not chilled. A good number of pubs don't use hand pumps for their ales (some don't have a cellar at all), but instead rely on taps directly attached to the casks, usually stored behind and above the bar. This beer is of course served at room temperature (as god intended) (not warm, not chilled).

      It always annoys me when I see an 'Extra Cold' pump or 'iced' bottles. Mmm.. beer that lacks any meaningful flavour or complexity, served chilled so you won't notice!

      As for dentists. Try finding an NHS practice.

    3. Re:I was scared for a second... by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      Gentlemen don't drive after dark.

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    4. Re:I was scared for a second... by Propaghandi · · Score: 1

      Yessss....Lucas, "Prince of Darkness" (I'll leave it to the reader to decide which Lucas was more dangerous!)

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      "Who's your Diaper Daddy?"
  11. please... by bluegreenturtle · · Score: 1

    "...150 TB of storage..." ...don't put me in charge of backups

    1. Re:please... by MarkTina · · Score: 1

      You'll probably find that Weta don't need to re-render due to failed disks, they using NetApp Filers for their storage, if they'd had a whole Filer failure I'd have heard about it ... NZ is a small place :-) Plus Filers are pretty robust beasties, not enterprise level but still pretty good.

    2. Re:please... by tim_uk · · Score: 1

      It's called Shadow Image and True Copy.

      Syncronous/asyncronous copying of data at block level in real time. Zero downtime backups. Pretty standard stuff here.

  12. greebo shot first! by discogravy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    don't sell George Lucas short: he made his old movies suck too.

    1. Re:greebo shot first! by nomadic · · Score: 5, Funny

      Did you hear about the special edition of Raiders of the Lost Ark? The guy with the scimitar shoots first.

  13. Isn't it funny how . . . by dgrgich · · Score: 4, Interesting

    . . . a terabyte just isn't as impressive as it used to be? After all, it is possible for a relatively green computer tech to go down to Best Buy and slap three 400MB drives into her rig (ahem...) and have a terabyte ready for whatever goodness she chooses to place there.

    I know, I know, in three months, this will be quaint but it used to be - not so long ago - that a terabyte was this massive hill on the horizon. Now - well, not so much.

    1. Re:Isn't it funny how . . . by moertle · · Score: 1

      I was thinking the same thing, thats an average of 100GB per employee. WTF?

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    2. Re:Isn't it funny how . . . by bluegreenturtle · · Score: 1

      uhhh, his math is right. 150 TB / 1500 employees...equals 100gb.

    3. Re:Isn't it funny how . . . by bluegreenturtle · · Score: 1

      whoops, I see the error now.

    4. Re:Isn't it funny how . . . by moertle · · Score: 1

      /me still isn't seeing the error... ?

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    5. Re:Isn't it funny how . . . by zamboni1138 · · Score: 1

      150 / 1500 = 10

      100? What version of math are you using?

    6. Re:Isn't it funny how . . . by jhonsrid · · Score: 1

      150tb, 1500 users. - Seems to me that Georgie is being tight, I reckon Lucas employees need more than 100gb each just to store their Jar-Jar hate mail...

    7. Re:Isn't it funny how . . . by Vexar · · Score: 1
      150 Terabytes in some sort of Storage Area Network, with striping is a lot more actual storage, and it isn't as cheap as a Best Buy deal sans the rebates.

      Honestly, I think Lucas was silly to put a number like that out. Weta Digital can probably surpass that with existing infrastructure, I'll check the bonus features on my LoTR collection to verify. It sounds like mindless media drivel to me. A real quote would be something to the effect of:
      "Our new rendering farm is a massively parallel distributed environment, capable of 150 Teraflops, which translates to 400 peta-triangles per second, or roughly the equivalent of 500,000,000 $100 graphics cards."

      I can only imagine what people are going to have to shell out to live in San Francisco now. I bet they have that throughput for all the telecommuters dialed in from Stockton. He should have build the studio in Stockton or Livermore, or somewhere easy to live. Tulsa. Yeah, he should have built the studio in Tulsa. Oh wait, there's not an internationally renowned art school for 500 miles in Tulsa, maybe not Tulsa. Redding. He could have built it in Redding.

  14. 10X! by tverbeek · · Score: 1
    the ability to work 10 times faster than they can today.

    Which means that, instead of waiting 26 years between trilogies like last time, they'll have Episode VII out 2.6 years from now instead!

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  15. Oh, you mean Lucasfilm headquarters... by biglig2 · · Score: 1

    I was quite baffled there for a minute.

    Over here in blighty, you see, "Lucas" is the name of a car part manufacturer (now part of TR automotive - the people who made the wheels for the model T interestingly enough), and while it is important to be able to buy a spare headlamp for your car, it isn't news for nerds.

    {Don't mind me folks, I'm just grumpy because I had a submission rejected on the grounds that "someone posted the same story with worse links after you did, so we ran with that one"}

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    1. Re:Oh, you mean Lucasfilm headquarters... by Animats · · Score: 1
      "Lucas" is the name of a car part manufacturer

      Ah, yes, "Lucas, the Prince of Darkness". Lucas Electric was notorious for their, well, dim electrical automotive products. Much of the bad reputation and subsequent decline of the British automotive industry resulted from the low quality of Lucas components.

      Somehow, Lucas never figured out that they were in a damp country and needed to protect against corrosion. They also stopped upgrading their technology some time in the 1950s.

  16. Skywalker Ranch? by the_skywise · · Score: 1

    I wonder what happens to it?

    (Especially when he dies).

    Been there once. It was... quite a thing to see...

    1. Re:Skywalker Ranch? by the_skywise · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No, but they had the staff of Ra medallion, Threepios' Arm plus other props, a two story library complete with stained glass and a one-piece carved wood circular stairway... all in a beautiful victorian era mansion.

      I mean, you KNOW Lucas made gajillions on Star Wars but you don't *KNOW* exactly what that means until you see what he did with it.

    2. Re:Skywalker Ranch? by MojoStan · · Score: 1
      I wonder what happens to it?

      Turn it into a vineyard/winery.

      That might be an awful idea. I'll mod myself down.

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  17. Future site of Starfleet Headquarters! by StefanJ · · Score: 1

    It's true!

    In fact, Lucasfilm's HQs will someday become the Academy's freshmen dorms.

  18. Does this means... by xv4n · · Score: 1

    ... there's going to be episodes 7,8 and 9?

    1. Re:Does this means... by Mister+Impressive · · Score: 1

      I thought it'd be for the TV series being made....

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    2. Re:Does this means... by Emetophobe · · Score: 1

      No, but look forward to seeing the prequels of the prequels...

    3. Re:Does this means... by el_womble · · Score: 1

      maybe earlier than that, the galaxy far far away seems to be just as interesting 4000 years ago in Knights of the Old Republic.

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  19. Huh? by K8Fan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I thought the Presidio was supposed to be for non-profit organizations, like the Internet Archive.

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    1. Re:Huh? by erik+umenhofer · · Score: 1

      The presidio was a military housing base and is now half residential/half military housing and commercial property. I think there are a few non-profits there, but there's a lot of little tech/media places too.

      On a side note, I read they buried a lot of toxic chemicals under the presidio and a bunch of people may have contracted cancer from living there.

      Way to go Military!

    2. Re:Huh? by NutscrapeSucks · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Short answer: The Republican Congress didn't like the idea of creating a National Park in a strong Democratic constituency. So the park has to perma-lease public recreational land to fatcats like Lucas in order to cover the budget. Then Lucas makes movies comparing republican governance to the "rise of the Sith", so it all works out karmically.

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  20. Mixing SciFi -- The Presido is Home of Star Fleet by HighOrbit · · Score: 4, Funny

    Noooooooo! Not even the "Temporal Cold War"(R)(TM)(C) can explain this.

    The Presido is the home of StarFleet Command. Not the seat of the Galactic Empire.

    Somebody call for a re-write!

  21. Cool. Yet, the future is in Games/VR. by Qbertino · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is - of course - tres cool. I envy Lucas and his minions who are going to work there. I'd like to work in such a facility. Being a 3D Animator is hard work but I figure it would be very rewarding. Imagine something like "Yeah, I did the Shading on the Podrace" or "Yepp, T-Rex. He's mine." - Neat.

    However, I think this is more of Lucas fullfilling his dreamstudio than something extremely future focused.
    Movies and their making as we know it are about to go through radical changes. I even figure Lucas knows this, since he's actually partly lead the way.
    Global viewing habbits and a big shift in the classical work and entertainment preferences ("work up the sweat at day, zero activity passive entertainment at night") will have todays movies decline in importance.
    I actually expect Video Gaming (in it's broadest sense) to outrun moviemaking within an decade or two.

    Just think of an ultra high resolution, lightweight tablet, wireless broadband everywhere and the promise of constant revenue streams for MMORPG providers. On the tram? Log in and re-outfit your character. In the car? Dial into the Chatroom and check with the Clan how things are going. That's not far away at all.
    A game like World of Warcraft, Phantasy Star or Ragnarok is just to complicated for Grandma nowadays, because the AI avatars leading you on a tour through the virtual world aren't there yet. But they will come.

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    1. Re:Cool. Yet, the future is in Games/VR. by AVIDJockey · · Score: 1

      This is - of course - tres cool. I envy Lucas and his minions who are going to work there. I'd like to work in such a facility. Being a 3D Animator is hard work but I figure it would be very rewarding. Imagine something like "Yeah, I did the Shading on the Podrace" or "Yepp, T-Rex. He's mine." - Neat.

      Amusingly enough, a friend of mine can claim both of those things (Though, he was a TD and not an animator). Not as amusing was his disillusionment after working there for 5 years. He decided it was time to leave when he was setting up space battle sequences in episode 2 and a little bored. That combined with the drop in company morale (ILM was laying off their old school practical effects guys and everyone got shafted on their bonuses post-ep 2) pushed him away.

      He's since moved on to Weta and is much happier. I'm sure the NZ beaches help.

    2. Re:Cool. Yet, the future is in Games/VR. by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 2, Informative

      "However, I think this is more of Lucas fullfilling his dreamstudio than something extremely future focused."

      Not necessarily true. While what you state here has parts of truth in it, this facility is in fact top notch. I worked a great deal on this facility and have seen that it has a lot of features that will allow it to last and be updated for a long time in a very efficient way. I cannot give away a lot of detail, but the following statements may (or may not) be entirely true about this facility:

      - multiple fibre runs to every workstation
      - ability for any/all workstations in the facility to participate in the render clusters
      - many hundreds of Gigabits of bandwidth between server areas
      - security designed into the network implementation
      - a beautiful facility
      - a very neat, and innovative datacenter design

      make no mistake, this facility is really well designed. Though it will be a challenge to run operationally, I wouldnt miss the chance to work on it...

      Hopefully Lucas will create great things from there, in addition to their other facilities and locations - but the primary difference was that those early locations all grew organically as needed - which wasnt always the best way to grow. Now there is a facility that was initially designed based on the vast experience they have with their workflow in an effort to design a site that would scale and provide flexibility in how mass amounts of creative content are produced.

  22. Hrm by digitalsushi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I have 1.1 terrabytes in my computer, it's worth about 400 bucks. The next number that'll get my jaw to drop is seeing someone with a petabyte kicking around.

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    1. Re:Hrm by tim_uk · · Score: 1

      Well, how about 3Pb across the two datacentres here, and another six in the remainder of the project?

      Is that enough for your jaw to hit the floor?

      150Tb? That's one Oracle cluster around these parts. Hardly worth getting out of bed for...

  23. Old News by Leiterfluid · · Score: 1

    No one noticed this was already covered last month in Wired?

  24. Omg... by Chickenofbristol55 · · Score: 1

    I bet Mr.Lucus will have fans come up to him infront of the new offices and say "Oh my god, Star Wars is so awesome, and Luke is soooooo HOT"

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  25. Re:Great News!! by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe they can have the Bush Presidential Library on campus!

    In San Francisco... sure. I know there has to be some closet Republicans there, but I don't think there's enough of them for a parade much less for a conservative presidential library. You might have better luck putting the Nixon presidential library on Alcatraz Island.

  26. too bad by cahiha · · Score: 1

    Somehow, I had hoped that the Presidio would be home to something with a bit more class and style than Lucas and his company. It's just such a beautiful and unique spot.

    1. Re:too bad by mr.dreadful · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Like the Marriott that competed for building there? Regardless of whether or not you like Star Wars, George has a real sense of architecture. The new buildings are beautiful, and match the 100+ year old facility perfectly. And yet they are totally state of the art, and have many green features. It could have been much worse.

  27. The technology behind the Force... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    Does anyone have links to articles about the technology infrastructure behind the Force? I'm looking for something describing the server room side of the operation.

    1. Re:The technology behind the Force... by malducin · · Score: 1

      I have some linked from my site:

      ILM technology

      You might want to check this one from 2003 which talks a bit about what they were planning for their new network at the Presidio:

      10g Muscle

  28. Not so, young Padawan by BRock97 · · Score: 1

    What are you talking about? Once the building went up, the property values became more powerful than you could possibly imagine...

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  29. Lucas can have it - the Federation doesn't need it by SamDrake · · Score: 1

    ...now that Enterprise is dead.

  30. Cents and Suppressability by smittyoneeach · · Score: 2, Informative
    From TFA:
    At the same time, Lucas himself will concentrate on a long-suppressed ambition to make smaller films, even documentaries.
    I, for one, pity Poor Wee George, so unable to make the smaller films he has so craved.
    Too, we must take comfort in the fact that has gathered sufficient moss that he won't be hitting the road next year, when he turns 62
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  31. not even tops on the Presidio ... by akb · · Score: 3, Informative

    ... for storage. That honor goes to the Internet Archive with over 500TB.

  32. Old News.... by Ecko7889 · · Score: 1

    I have known about this for quite sometime. San Fransico, I believe was chosen becuase there are many companies already based here, that relate to Lucas Arts work. The "can work 10 times faster" is just becuase of basic centralization. The whole company was spread out, and it was more productive to place a large firm in the most expensive realstate second only to Manhatten.

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    1. Re:Old News.... by erik+umenhofer · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think a lot of knew about this (those who live in SF that is) My roomate and I live like 2 blocks from the presidio and we used to talk about it and how we wanted to get a job there. That was two years ago. It's right on the edge of the Presidio near the Marina.

  33. We are moving by OneArmedMan · · Score: 5, Funny

    To the Precedio .....

    Employee : But i dont wanna..

    GL : Search your feelings , you know this to be true.

    E: No thats not true, thats impossable!!!!

    GL : It is your ..... *Destiny*

    1. Re:We are moving by Suchetha · · Score: 1
      As many as 1,300 to 1,500 Lucas employees will, by next fall, be working in buildings made to look like they've been part of the centuries-old Presidio all along.

      oh great, even more CGI retconning

      quit it georgie

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  34. Mega-whoring here by GuyMannDude · · Score: 4, Funny

    Slashdotters may wish to look through the comments in the article posted two years ago when they were first breaking ground. And, hey, who's that handsome stud who submitted the article?

    Give me a break. That was my first accepted submission to slashdot. I'm very proud. I've got a printout of it hanging up in my cubicle next to my stuffed Tux doll, a defaced photo of Bill Gates, and a poster of that blonde swordswoman from Lord of the Rings in a chain-mail bikini!

    GMD

    1. Re:Mega-whoring here by Scudsucker · · Score: 1

      a poster of that blonde swordswoman from Lord of the Rings in a chain-mail bikini!

      You mean Miranda Otto? You wouldn't have a link to this picture by any chance, would you? :-)

  35. NEXT fall? by gnovos · · Score: 1

    Yeah, by that time we'll all have this kind of comupting power on our wrist watches. pshaw.

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  36. Presidio is required to be self-supporting by aaronrp · · Score: 4, Informative

    From http://www.nps.gov/prsf/

    On October 1, 1994, the Presidio became part of the Golden Gate National Recreation Area. Since 1998, the Presidio has been jointly managed by the National Park Service and the Presidio Trust. The Presidio Trust is a special public-private governmental agency tasked with managing most of the buildings of the Presidio and making the park financially self-sufficient by 2013.

    Certain areas are rented to non-profit groups, and much is set aside for public space, but development in the Presidio is required for it to pay for itself. It is the only National Park Service unit expected to do so.

    The Presidio Trust site is here.

  37. tinfoil hat time by sharrestom · · Score: 1

    Is it my paranoia, or just the thought that Lucas's spawn, Pixar sits quietly across the bay, podcasting its reality distortion field, awaiting the completion of the new Bay Bridge, which will carry a massive bundle of fiberoptic cables to connect two of the largest renderfarms in the world, with the express goal of destroying Bambi?

  38. I got to go there by KeithGap · · Score: 2, Interesting
    It's a beautiful campus. Wish I could work there. There's pictures on my web site. Eek...I'm about to get slashdotted...

    Letterman Digital Arts Center

    1. Re:I got to go there by peteMG · · Score: 2, Informative

      You want to work there .. it's not impossible! I saw an image in a prior article a few weeks back which detailed the uses for each building in the project. About one and a half of them - a whole heck of a lot of space - were reserved for leasing to third parties, somewhat like other office co-ops in SF.

      In this SFGate image, it's the rightmost building and half of the one next to it that were slated for subleasing. So, get yourself into a little company and move the offices there!

      Ah, here we go. Various articles about the subleasing.

    2. Re:I got to go there by KeithGap · · Score: 1

      Ah, kewl. I'll have to check it out. I have friends who work for Lucas who will be moving there, and they did also say they thought the Lucas companies might be doing some hiring there shortly after they move in. The party I got to go to was actually in the leased buildings, so I got to wander around through them. They won't be the same without all the Star Wars decorations in them. =)

  39. Re:Presidio?!? by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 1

    Perhaps you should read up on why that area is called the Presidio.

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  40. Re:Walking distance by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 1

    ... which is on the other end of the city.

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  41. 4,000 processors by xfmr_expert · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...and lot's of air conditioning.

  42. Queue Longhorn jokes... by Emetophobe · · Score: 1
    4,000 processors and 150 terabytes of storage
    Let the jokes about being able to run Doom3 on Longhorn commence!
    1. Re:Queue Longhorn jokes... by Draknor · · Score: 1

      Doom3?! By the time Longhorn comes out I expect to be running DNF on my 4,000 cpu workstation & 150TB disk!!

  43. A give away of public resources? by doom · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not everyone is happy about Lucasfilm moving to the Presido. Here's a sample: from the San Francisco Bay Guardian

    1. Re:A give away of public resources? by NeuroManson · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Wait a minute, the Presidio was paid for with tax payers dollars, and closed eventually (doing not much more than taking up prime real estate). So Lucas, a private citizen, purchases it.

      Meanwhile, there's oodles of cold war era nuclear silos that were paid for with tax payers dollars, which private citizens can purchase (for a song considering).

      Slashdot readers are fine with the latter, so what exactly is so wrong with the former? Is it because Lucas is rich? Hell, I bet the average Slashdotter is far more well off than I am, can I hold grudges against anyone making $20K a year or more?

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    2. Re:A give away of public resources? by doom · · Score: 1
      You don't appear to know much about what you're talking about, but it's like this: you've got this public property, which has for all intents and purposes become a public park -- most of us urban dwellers like the idea of public parks, something libertarians really need to come to grips with. But there's some office space in this particular park, because it's a former military base... instead of, say putting it up for auction, or going into the landlord biz and renting it at market rate, they cut a deal with Lucasfilms in part because they have a way cool vibe going for them. The idea is probably something like it's good for San Francisco's civic pride to have a company like Lucasfilms within it's borders. Then after cutting this deal, this way cool company decides to off-shore about half of it's workforce. They no longer need anywhere near the amount of office space they're getting in the Presidio. So what do they do? They subcontract it out. At market rate. Which San Francisco could have done in the first place, yes?

      I wouldn't tell you there aren't other ways you can look at this issue, but I think that's a fair summary of why some people are annoyed at Lucasfilms.

      (P.S. I've been out to the Ranch, and I don't know what everyone is oohing and ahhing about. It's an overblown, souless rendition of a Frank Lloyd Wright knockoff, in the middle of some of the sun fried sage brush dessert that the Western US has so much of...)

  44. 150 terabytes of storage? by tuxlove · · Score: 1

    My grandma almost has more than that. That's only the equivalent of 300 half-terabyte drives. At my last job, I had a single system with 200 disks... For a company that makes movies, I sure hope they have a lot more storage than quoted here.

  45. Wonder who built it... by CrowScape · · Score: 1

    I sure hope it's the Sith. I would hate for Lucas to have a headquaters in a building that was built using non-absolute measurements.

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  46. CONSUME by Cryofan · · Score: 1, Funny
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  47. Sounds like a Star Wars character. by isny · · Score: 2, Funny

    Meet my new apprentice...Darth Presidious.
    And my backup apprentice, Darth Congeniality.

  48. 10x faster by locnar42 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    They have 1500 employees and 4000 processors and they claim it'll be a 10x speed increase? So, they have ~400 processors right now? I'll go on a limb and say that the processors are faster in the new computers, so it's more likely ~800 processors. At best, every other employee has a computer?

    Maybe that 4000 processors is just a render farm or something? Overall it's not that impressive, but if all those stats are just a render farm then it's not too bad.

    1. Re:10x faster by malducin · · Score: 1

      They actually mean 4,000 processors, rederfarm + workstations.

      The 10x increase is just a number. By that they mean not only number of processors, but their speed and speed of their network and storage.

  49. Lucas Electronics by thomasa · · Score: 1

    Wow, now I can complain locally when my electrical system in my Triumph fails. Now I don't have to go to England. Lucas the King of Darkness.

    Oh you mean there is another Lucas?

    1. Re:Lucas Electronics by BiggerIsBetter · · Score: 1

      That was my thought too. I was like, Oh great! All that computing power, and it'll fail every time it rains!

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  50. What about the fencers? by Fricka · · Score: 1

    The Presidio was(is?) the home of a talented fencing club. I suppose they've been displaced. :( It would be funny if one were to walk down a row of office doors and pause at one to see blades flying ;) Though maybe they'll still be around... "They'll be eating in the same cafeteria, exercising in the same gym."

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  51. New Lucas Headquarters by Knightcrawler · · Score: 4, Informative

    Lucas bid on putting something on the Presidio as a lark and was surprised when he won. The new headquarters combines all of Lucas's companies into I place; Lucas Arts, Lucasfilm, THX, ILM, Lucas Merchandising. Before this alot of it was at Skywalker Ranch and the rest scattered throughout California. He thought that since the video game company and the movie company were often working in much the same thing that they should work together more. Also, no more episodes even after he dies. Lucas has specifically made it so that no one can use the Star Wars property after he dies.

    1. Re:New Lucas Headquarters by malducin · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not all the companies are moving to the Presidio. Lucasfilm and Skywalker Sound will still be based at the Ranch, while ILM will retain some operations in San Rafael. Also THX was spun off from Lucasfilm in 2002.

  52. Good move by Shishberg · · Score: 1

    ...after those pesky Rebels destroyed the headquarters at Yavin.

  53. Re:Oh joy.... by Cryofan · · Score: 1



    now all those third rate retards from fourth rate "art" schools will flood the place looking to find a way to be shackled to a desk in some giant veal fattening pen so they can see their name fly by on the Big Screen at 30 miles per hour for crappy wages only to be replaced by a fourth rate retard from a fifth rate art school in Bangalore who gets to watch his name fly by at 60 miles per hour on the Big Screen all in order to model some great steaming tourde oozing from some Future Villian's Butthole, exquisitely rendered by some multi-googlebyte monstrosity lurking in the Presidio.

    No friends, this is not a great step forward - it's just another corporation cashing in where it can so it can manufacture more circuses for the clueless proles.


    Ha ha! That is a lovely sentiment. Sounds like you speak from experience.....

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  54. The site... by Palal · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The site is quite nice. I remember it being built when I worked at the Presidio Trust one summer. I went by a few weeks ago and it looks like they're ready to open it. It fits in quite well and looks much better than that old and ugly hospital building that once stood there. Hopefully they'll extend trolley buses into the park now that there'll be demand for them. Also, hopefully Lucas will provide some sort of a visitor center to attract people, considering the fact the Palace of Fine Arts, Exploratorium and the Golden Gate Bridge are a few steps away. BTW. Lucasfilm will get a much better view of the bridge once the new approaches get built in about 10-12 years.

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  55. Anti-Moore's Law by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 1

    4,000 processors and 150 terabytes of storage -- massive computing power and speed, with the ability to work 10 times faster than they can today.

    Cue the users to increase the workload by 20 times.

  56. Who's more foolish? by Darth23 · · Score: 1

    The Jar Jar, or the endlessly repeated Jar Jar jokes on /. that follows it?

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  57. duh by Scudsucker · · Score: 1

    150 Terabytes = 153600 Giabytes
    153600 Gigabytes / 1500 employees = 102.4 Gigabytes per employee

  58. Re:Mixing SciFi -- The Presido is Home of Star Fle by earthbound+kid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Heh, why do you think the backstory of Babylon 5 is that San Francisco was nuked sometime in the undefined past?

  59. Oh damn by herbierobinson · · Score: 1

    I thought this was going to be full of British refrigerator jokes...

    http://www.kitcar.com/articles-kitcar/humordept/lu cas-prince.html

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  60. FYI, Internet Archive ~2PB but not at Presidio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Total spinning disk capacity on Internet Archive machines is actually around 2PB (2000TB) currently... but mostly at another colo facility across town.

  61. Re:Mixing SciFi -- The Presido is Home of Star Fle by vrai · · Score: 2, Informative
    Errr ... that was San Diego - it was nuked by terrorists opposed to the formation of the Earth Alliance.

    Not that I'm a fan of B5 or anything.

  62. George's Replacement by Doc+Ido · · Score: 1

    So, when George dies, who's going to be his Rick Baker? Sounds like a good slashdot poll.

  63. Obligatory Presidio Quote by mrch0mp3rs · · Score: 1

    "Now, are you sure you want to have a fight? Because I'm only gonna use my thumb... My right thumb. My left one is too powerful for you." (Sean Connery, 1988)

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  64. Re:Mixing SciFi -- The Presido is Home of Star Fle by peter303 · · Score: 1

    They never showed current-time Earth in the first Star Trek series, but frequently did in the The NExt Generation. When you saw the Golden Gate Bridge, you knew you were at Star Fleet HQ or its Space Academy. Move IV about the whales show futuristic S.F. too.

    But now Paramaount has shelved the Star Trek franchise, Star Wars has taken over!

  65. Big deal... by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    Pfft big deal, thats what like what two or three xbox3's or ps3's?

  66. I WAS going to work at this site. by Genjurosan · · Score: 1

    About 8 months ago I was offered an a job at ILM. Granted this was an entry level full time job with ILM. But here is the catch. They wanted me to work for $38k and live in SF. Isn't this BELOW the povery line in SF? Needless to say, I didn't take the job. The future of the job was essentially 5+ years, you may move up and become a TD, and we may pay as much as 65-75k for a TD. So, the option was: Move to SF and make MUCH less that I currently make in my dream job, live about 1.5 hours away from work, sell my cars and buy a junker, live in a smaller house, adjust to CA COL. or... Stay here and make much more and live 5 min from work, never deal with traffic, and etc.. etc.. Anyone think I I made the wrong decision?

  67. Apres Georges... by runlvl0 · · Score: 1

    Lucasfilm President Micheline Chau says, "We do have to exist after George. He's not going to live forever. The man's in his early 60s."

    I hear that Rick Berman and Brannon Braga are available...

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  68. park at Wal-Mart and get a Park membership by snooo53 · · Score: 1

    From what I understand they actually encourage people to park their RV's and camp out overnight. Since most of them are open 24hrs at least you'd have a bathroom indoors. And it'd be easy to find a new one if they kick you out.

    One option other than the Y. Try a state park membership. Usually around $20-30 a year plus you'd have some nice scenery. State parks with camping usually have showers but they probaby wont be open in the winter in most of the country. Maybe then you could find a truck stop for showering? As for food there are always food pantries/soup kitchens in cities.

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  69. Re:Most impressive. by th3space · · Score: 1

    1. How much extra is it to print the word "Minion" on 1,500 ID badges?

    Thats pretty cheap, droids are glorified slaves.

    2. Is the vulnarable spot of the complex clearly marked on the blueprint so you can just drop a cherry bomb in a toilet somewhere and blow the whole place up?

    No, they have removed the need for a secondary thermal exhaust system in this building.

    3. Are you invulnerable to laser fire in the halls if you put your back against the wall?

    We're not real sure, but you're welcome to break in and help us find out...

    4. How long will it take a manager to get beat down for saying "You have failed me for the last time!" ?

    General Manager Palpatine and Operations Manager Vader are no longer with the company (due to some unpleasantness), and have been replaced by Thrawn and Palleon, respectively...we understand they are a little less capricious with employees.

    5. Will they have those cheesy inspirational posters everywhere? Of course theirs will say things like "Do, or do not. There is no try."

    No, our idea of 'inspiration' is more along the lines of a poster of Jar Jar Binks hanging in effigy outside of our old facilities with a very poignant message beneath it: "Never let this happen again. Ever."

    I do hope that this has cleared up your questions, and please be sure to not bother us with these type trivialities again. Thanks.

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  70. Built on the Site of an Old Army Hospital by NetBear · · Score: 1

    Sound like a Poltergeist sequel?? Could be!!

    The Lucas facility was built on the site of the old Letterman army hospital. A lot of pain, suffering and death happened in that location. I know... cause my dad was in the military. So we went to Letterman a lot. It wasn't pretty. In fact, it was downright scary.

    So all you Lucas employees... When you go into the subterranean parking garages to drive your SUVs back to Marin, better watch out for the spirits of all those tormented soldiers who died horrible deaths right where you stand!