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Another Star Wars Prequel?
boarder8925 writes "George Lucas said he was finished with the Star Wars movies, but it seems George Lucas has an idea for another add-on to the Star Wars movie series: a prequel to The Phantom Menace. The story would follow the Jedi regaining control of the universe from the many Dark Lords some 88 years before Anakin Skywalker ever graced the universe. Yoda, who, according to Lucas, was instrumental in the effort, would apparently have a headlining role. However, Lucas, now age 60, says he won't be captaining such a ship if it ever happens."
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"However, Lucas, now age 60, says he won't be captaining such a ship if it ever happens."
Wow, the movie after Revenge of the Sith really is a new hope.
badah-ching!
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Backwards, this Jedi works.
Yipeeeeeee!
No more SW prequels please! Would be interested however in seeing some subordinate stories like where do Han Solo and Chewbacca meetup between Episode III and IV and perhaps a story following Boba Fett's bounty hunter quests. THere are lots of good stories that could work within the characters Lucas has already presented but please, George, stop going back in time.
One would have thought that the Star Trek franchise was proof of how difficult that is to pull off.
The Star Wars franchise can only be rescued by Lucas' continued meddling in the storyline.
After Return of the Jedi, I didn't think there was a hope for the Trilogy, but now, with the latest three movies delivered, I realize that my feelings back then about the original movies were truly happy and optimistic.
Because Lucas was able to show me how far down the toilet he was willing to let the franchise go, I appreciate the original trilogy all the more. Even his remasters of the original three make me wax nostalgic for my childhood.
He's already got books, comics and computer games spread throughout his history, written by other people and controlled by him (so that they pretty much all fit together, with a few exceptions). There's no reason not to have films too.
But him not writing/directing them is a good thing - so long as they get someone in who _can_.
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I wouldn't mind a star wars with a lot less of the original characters, lets say none of them.
Just shoehorn The Dark Crystal into Star Wars mythology. We've already got muppets, and a young hero on a quest. We just need a special edition with a couple of lightsaber fights.
That's the sound of this cashcow being milked dry!
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So will the next move to come out be Episode -II?
I just can't squeeze any blood from this stone!
he won't be captaining such a ship if it ever happens
I misread that as captaining such shit at first. And then I thought, maybe I'm not misreading it.
I'd like to see how they discover midi-chlorians and the origins of the Jedi. Just thinking. If not, I've seen all the Star Wars I need for one life time.
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We'll see what the hell Yoda is. My money's on "bald Ewok".
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Episodes I through III were dealing in the too recent past directly dealing with known characters who many older fans have had 20 years to come up with their own theories about.
Now a pre-Phantom-Menace film wouldn't have quite so much "known" events to deal with. It would be somewhat harder to really jar with people's own perceptions of what could have happened. Plus if Lucas did step back and leave such a prequel to someone else it might well end up better than the current prequels. Not many people can create good stories in on their own - and even those who do don't (usually) do films on their own.
Editors, screenwriters, directors. As long as they're not all at odds then they stand a better chance of coming up with a great finished product.
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That would be in the (star wars) future as even in the first film (at time of release voyager had not realy go that far) it was set a long time ago;
In the not too distant future, next Sunday A.D.
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...
Which is unusual in that usually Sci-Fi is set in the future. But, anyway, you'd have to go forward in time to find voyager I.Who ordered that?
Good title/Bad title, either way better than attack of the cloans.
I think the choice of director is clear. Quentin Tarentino, come on it would be great!
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In the not too distant future, next Sunday A.D.
Now i know there has been alot of prequal hype of late and sequels are very unhip. ... Perhaps a movie where you don't know whats going to hapen(unless you read the books) would be a little more exciting than another bleeding prequal , though yoda doing some cool jedi tricks would be cool
for the love of god though there are some real gems in the books/comics set after the origional trillogy , Dark empire for example , the reformation of the jedis and so on
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According to the backstory, Tarkin was challenging Palpatine for Emperor at one point, so this could be correct.
What's more puzzling is why Palpatine keeps Vader on the payroll at all, when he allows the Death Star to be destroyed, lets Luke escape in ESB and is clearly treacherous ("join me, and we will rule the galaxy as father and son"). I'd have relegated him to droid-polishing duties after Ep IV.
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The Starwars universe is great. A clever mix of magic, politics, religion and technology. This is what makes sci fi great. You take a few physical laws, mix them up a bit and see what happens when you introduce humans into it.
This is George Lucas' legacy: a standardised universe, that captivates the imagination. He has woven a rich tapestry of worlds, cultures and characters but is a lousy story teller, particularly dialog.
Please Mr. Lucas, let the universe go. Spend the remainder of you professional life as an executive producer who lets others write and direct, whilst you approve and fund.
As a side note, I'd really like to see a script from Kevin Smith. Given a free reign (and a ban from using his friends as cast members)he could write the Starwars adventure we all think we remember.
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Vader seems to be subordinate of Tarkin
According to the backstory, Tarkin was challenging Palpatine for Emperor at one point, so this could be correct.
This makes no sense, since Vader knows best that a guy not familiar with the ways of the Force can't even get near being a threat for the Emperor.
What's more puzzling is why Palpatine keeps Vader on the payroll at all, when he allows the Death Star to be destroyed, lets Luke escape in ESB and is clearly treacherous ("join me, and we will rule the galaxy as father and son"). I'd have relegated him to droid-polishing duties after Ep IV.
This is quite clear and can be easily explained within the known canonical storyline.
Being treacherous against your master is a behavior for a Sith apprentice, after all the only way to get promoted to a Sith Lord is by slaying your master. Any good Sith apprentice is expected to plot to kill his master at some point. So, this is part of the game and who would know it better than Sidious, who has been there?
But this is not as simple as that, of course. Some of the things Vader/Anakin says that are apparently against the Sidious/Palpatine are just a deception aimed at a particular person - as it was shown in EP III.
Anyway, in this situation Sidious can't get rid of Vader. He needs an apprentice. He has his own plot to get Luke as the new one, but to achieve this he needs Luke to slay Vader. For him it's a win-win situation - one of them would remain to serve him. He can't predict, of course, that Vader would turn into Anakin again and kill him.
BTW apparently, the advancement in the Sith is only by slaying - first you have to kill a Sith apprentice to become one. Then you have to kill your Sith master to become one yourself. Nice clan, indeed.
The other drawback is when you've got a character arc like Anakin's I, personally, like to know there's at least a chance of redemption. That maybe, just maybe, they don't get drawn too far into the dark. Even when they do, it's nice to know there's a chance they won't.
Prequels (or catching earlier seasons of a show) always let me down like that, as I know that there's no other possible way. In the case of Episodes I-III the whole point is showing Anakin's path to becoming Vader. But therefore there's no chance of him not falling, as the films where he's already fallen were made first.
Tiggs
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There's no Roman numeral for zero!
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They should do a movie based on the Knights Of The Old Republic RPG story. That was the best Star Wars story ever.
Am I the only one actually wanting the old movies remade with todays standards?
I really like the universe and I espect the fact that SW-fans is fanatic and all but... it comes down to one thing: Entertainment. Right now its just silly, tried looking at IV the other day and I couldnt stand the figthts, it does just not fit in anymore.
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I USED to love Star Wars. That love has been BEATEN out of me. This franchise is an abomination... a walking shell of THE UNDEAD!!
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Lucas also announced that due to the bad reception the prequels had on certain geek web sites such as slashdot he was developing a story line especially for the geek crowd, "The Adventures of Padme".
He went on to explain the plot would not be complicated, however Ms Portman would lose her clothing, fall into in a vat of grits and eventually end up petrified (in carbonite) before being delivered by Boba Fett to Taco the Hutt. He expects to being in $60 million from slashdot readership alone.
Easy:
People buy this shit. Who knows why, but they do.
Now who's cynical?
Agreed. It sounds to me like Lucas is afraid of the possibility of life after Darth.
I've seen all of the Star Wars movies in the theater as they came out, and I've liked them all.
I just steadfastly remain intentionally shallow.
It's supposed to be eye candy, not give you a doctorate in comparative theology or high-energy physics.
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Dune deals with the fact that what you see into the future locks you into that - or more correctly, the self fulfilling prophecy paradox. Star Wars doesn't (maybe revenge of the sith does hint on that) . It just handles prescience as just a sense and tries to concentrate on moralizing about the Dark and Light sides of the Force. (which it did very well too). Also Dune deals with the inversion of scarcity - Melange which is rare, but common on Arakkis , Water which forms oceans in other worlds, but rare on Arakkis.
Dune carries a lot of fatalism - especially ironic because Paul is prescient. Also the fact that he lets go of Chani rather than turn into a Tlelaxu puppet - which Anakin was not able to do. Also the twins - a girl and boy , the mother dies at birth.
If you really think about it , the Matrix had some of the themes too - Neo is not The ONE , but turns out to be , Paul is not the Kwisatz Haderach , but he becomes.
Dune has the best eyecandy - I remeber dreaming about Shields and lasguns - the sound, color and shimmering feeling. For some of us, CG effects are never enough . Also yeah, the first 3 Dune books were good - the rest of them sucked (come on !.. honored matres' ?.Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur
Looking backwards in twenty-year chunks? Its not "StarWars", its "memento"
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Well, this was made very clear - neither Sith nor Jedi masters don't have more than one apprentice at a time. The difference being, of course, that Jedi masters let go of their apprentices and there is no rivalry amongst them.
It's important to notice that Anakin's fast advancement within the Jedi Order was possible only because of the turmoil created by the Clone Wars. He skipped some tests. He probably fought more than meditated. He, so to speak, sneaked past the system designed to screen against any padawan becoming too powerful without developing enough compassion and understanding. It wasn't all that hard, because it was a system built on trust, not paranoid suspicion.
And he managed to keep his relationship with Padme a secret from the rest of Jedi. His betrayal of the Jedi in a sense begun with that.
*sigh* that Obi Wan! Always stretching the truth so far you'd think it was taffee. He'd already won the Bill Clinton award for Stretching the Truth with the whole excuse about truth depending on your point of view when trying to cover up the "Darth Vader killed your father." line. Now we find that the Jedi hadn't actually kept peace in the galaxy for "over a thousand generations." Seems it was more like 88 years. Obi Wan's response will probably be to dig up some species with a life span only slightly greater than a fruit fly and say something about "point of view."
88 years? Is that a typo in the article?
I thought the Sith were in hiding mode for over a thousand years?
Not that I've come to expect continuity from lucas or the star wars universe or anything =)
I guess he'll have more edits in the I, II, III special edition trilogy box set re-re-re-release.
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Lucas is just an idiot. Look at the scene at the beginning of ep III (which I swore I wouldn't see, then good reviews came out) where the ship tilts 90s. The gravity inside the ship also changes direction 90 degrees. Why? Is the ship just hovering in space, with no orbit? Then why does it start to "burn up" as it enters the atmosphere? If the ship is in orbit, using artificial gravity, why does the direction change?
I mean, this is high school physics stuff. The most basic 'science' stuff in sci-fi and Lucas fucks it up.
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I've said it before, and I'll say it every time someone posts this tripe: this is most definitely NOT the rose-coloured glasses of aging here.
Listen, when Star Wars came out in 1977, millions of adults went to see it, loved it, and anxiously awaited the sequels. So did millions of kids. However, the children's market was nowhere near as established as it is today. Star Wars would NEVER have been as successful if it only appealed to children. My parents, who in general can't stand sci-fi or action films, and were in their late 30s at the time, loved it. THEY were almost as interested in seeing the sequels as I was.
Flash-forward to the prequels. By and large, 6-12 year olds love them. Other than that, however, the vast majority of adults don't. Believe it or not, there are many people in their 20s and 30s now who've never seen Star Wars before. And most of them really don't think the prequels are all that good.
Believe me, many things from my childhood I can now recognize as the crap it is. The original Star Wars movies were good back then, and are still good. The prequels are less so.
Endless arguments over trivial contradictions in books written by ignorant savages to explain thunder in the dark.
I thought the exact same thing in the theater watching ep III. "This is the only movie that really needed to be made." The other three were pointless.
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The story would follow the Jedi regaining control of the universe from the many Dark Lords some 88 years before Anakin Skywalker ever graced the universe. Yoda, who, according to Lucas, was instrumental in the effort, would apparently have a headlining role.
If I'm not mistaken, doesn't this already exist, in some form, as Knights of the Old Republic? I thought Georgy boy officially declared that KOTOR was permenantly the very first plotline in the Star Wars universe, the Genesis of the SW universe if you will, much like Ocarina of Time is permenantly the very first Legend of Zelda storyline no matter how many other Zelda prequels they make.
We really don't need an Episode Zero movie, cuz if they tried to put all of the main points of KOTOR into a movie it would be at least 5 or 6 hours long...
Wait, don't tell me they cut out those scense over there? That just sucks.
Didn't you know they [some Jedi mojo or whoever] used a stand in, Anakin died an awesome death because of an heart attack while he impregnated Padmé and Darth Vader is in fact a big badass... Liar.
Pfft, and those were the best scenes!
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