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Windows Vista Leaks ... Again!
10101001011 writes "The latest build of Windows Vista (5231) has been leaked to the public, again. This latest build includes some major revamping of Windows Media Player, including a smart interface. Also, IE 7 now sports tabs a la Firefox, under the address bar. Are these leaks accidental, or is Microsoft actually trying to pull a 360?"
I find it interesting that it is "leaked" the same day as Ubuntu "Breezy Badger" 5.10. Is MS trying to subvert its toughest FOSS competitor?
Any idea which of the several versions leaked?
If you keep throwing chairs, one day you'll break windows....
That looks like a hollywood starlet out to gain some cheap publicity by leaking news of her latest breast enhancement
Just check this story http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EEklAEVplZ YuqLANUS.php
Publicity is the soul of the game
Yes you heard it here first folks. Continuing the proud tradition of security first we at Microsoft have implimented new Sieve Security Technology (tm) throughout our systems. Now, as well as producing the most bug ridden insecure operating system around, we can't even keep hold of the software before it is written.
I used to have a better sig but it broke.
Does that mean it's full of holes?
*rimshot*
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Perhaps they will rely upon their usual method of security ..... "damn, it just crashed my machine."
Why is it that Vista is all about the user interface? Transperencey and tabbed browsing is just a part of the GUI and could be included in XP just like that. I want to know about the OS. There is one slightly amusing thing in the screenshots though. He's chatting with someone named Ryan|Topside Porn
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Microsoft does an amazing job marketing and promoting their products. With "leaks" like this, they get people to download and look at their software who wouldn't normally do so if it were an "authorized" release/preview.
Not to mention the fact that with leaks like this, they keep the Vista name in the news...no matter if it's politics or selling products, name recognition is one of the most important things you can shoot for.
Turns out it's just screenshots of some guy's desktop with a fancy wallpaper.
An Indian-American Hindu committed to non-violent thought/speech/action alarmed by the global explosion of radical Islam
What good is a leak. If nobody wants it?
"I used to have that really cool,funny sig
- http://www.neowin.net/staff/cashman/vist5321_2.jp
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- http://www.neowin.net/staff/cashman/vist5321_3.jp
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it appears that Internet Explorer has shed itself of a menubar! Any news on this?Did no one on Slashdot go to this year's PDC?! Oh, wait...I guess that's a dumb question...Anyway, they gave out copies of Vista build 5219 to everyone who attended, and it already had tabbed browsing in IE7. Why are people making such a big deal about this now?
Hopefully, it'll support Ogg Vorbis.
Hopefully, some OSS developers will bring life back into CDex.
Hopefully, it won't report that I'm infringing on Paris Hilton's copywrite.
Hopefully, if you want a vision of the future, you'll imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.
More importantly, does the keygen come with cool music?
Windows Media Player, including a smart interface.
What does it mean when MS creates a "smart" interface?
Relatedly... why has the titlebar of one of the windows in screenshot 3 been blurred? You can still read the title in the taskbar! D'oh!
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire
The transparency effect against a black background .. makes the text hard to read (look at the IE window title in this one (note in some of the screenshots they intentionally blurred text, but not in the IE window in this shot):
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If he's using XP now, presumably like most of those idjits out there, he'll jump for joy when Vista comes out
I resent that comment. I would call my self an informed user, with plenty of Linux experience. However, I get windows xp for free because I am a grad student, and currently don't have any need to switch over. But when Vista is actually released, I have no desire to run an OS that does not come with all the features that are available. That annoys me to no end. When I say, "when I get tired of XP", I mean in about a year or two when I am looking to upgrade. So you might want to quit putting all those 'idjits' into a pigeonhole and realize that there are informed users who use XP who also find that the Vista nonsense is the last straw...
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The better question is what mod thought that this flamebait would actually be "Interesting" to discuss for the 2342343th time. Crixus, if you haven't seen this topic enough to make you sick, then you must have taken a 2-year leave of absence from slashdot (which doesn't sound like a bad idea).
News at 11: Opera had tabs before firefox. But first, we'll go to breaking news indicating vi is much better than emacs.
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The original seems to be very slow now.
The people who install the leaked version are software pirates. Pirates don't typically make software companies a lot of money. By leaking a product people want to people who never would have made you money in the first place, you get people talking about it. Seems like a great strategy for MS or any other software company for that matter.
The complaint is that a word that originally meant "with hope" is instead being used as a substitute for "I hope".
There becomes a confusion when I write:
"Hopefully, he left on Tuesday"
Do I mean that I hope he left on Tuesday, or that he had hope when he left on Tuesday? It should mean the latter but in common use it's starting to instead mean the former.
I wouldn't worry about it too much as languages have always been fluid and the relatively new usage isn't entirely unintuitive except in very rare circumstances like the one I outline above.
Hopefully, you understand what I mean.
erroneous: look me up in a dictionary
Actually my grad program is in Divinity (theology). I just don't have the time to make the switch over to Linux yet. But I will probably this summer.
xao
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"How many of your relatives know what Linux is? How many of them know what Windows is?" You have to remember to whom you're speaking to. This is Slashdot. Half these dorks probably come over to their relatives for Thanksgiving dinner in penguin costumes handing out free OSS CDs.
If the leaks aren't accidental, then why is one of the MSN messenger users displayed in the screenshots as "Ryan | Topside Porn..."
Is M$ getting into the porn business as well? Maybe a Windows Vista Porn Edition is in the works, and Ryan is on the dev team? It could have features like the 'boss button,' racy desktop themes, and it could arrive in your mailbox in a non-descript paper bag....
On the neowin.net message board, Raum says:I jsut thought I should mention this.the guy in the IM on some of the shots who's name is topside pornstar or whatnot.That's a grind in rollerblading. Just some trivia.
I think my explanation is more realistic - everybody knows that only Google developers get to rollerblade.
There becomes a confusion when I write:
"Hopefully, he left on Tuesday"
That sentence is not ambiguous.
Do I mean that I hope he left on Tuesday, or that he had hope when he left on Tuesday?
The former. It would not be natural English to use it in the latter sense.
It should mean the latter but in common use it's starting to instead mean the former.
"It's starting" is a rather funny way of describing a usage that has been standard for about a century, and "in common use" is a bit strange given that the form has been predominant even in formal, literary, and technical English for at least 40 years.
And I'm surprised to see you say that a word "should" mean something, when you go on to acknowledge, quite correctly, that language is a fluid thing. It's safe to assume you don't believe treacle "should" mean an antidote to snake venom, so why do you believe hopefully "should" mean "the subject acts with hope" rather than "I speak with hope"?
(I like the subtle split infinitive, incidentally. Nice way to emphasise the fact that most "rules" are arbitrary stylistic decisions, rather than being founded in usage or convenience.)
Especially because this has been Apple's week -- best year on record, 220 percent more iPods sold, about 50 percent more Macs sold, quadrupled quarterly profit, then yesterday a new iMac with built-in video camera and remote control, the big iPod with video features standard, a deal with Disney on selling Housewives. Microsoft had to do something to try to grab some mindshare so people don't forget they are still around.
"180, you stupid, spaghetti-slurping cretin - 180! If I did a 360, I'd go completely around and end up back where I started!"
You must think in Russian.
I have a full legal msdn copy of longhorn beta 1 and let me tell you first hand. it sucks. I have two gigs of ram...and its slow. it lags continously and only is efficeent half the time. when the Vista beta comes out i'll let ya know if its any faster. for now...i'm dissappointed.
I'm not naive enough to demand that either Windows or KDGnome implement revolutionary improvements in desktop paradigm - that stuff really seems to happen by accretion, especially since we seem to be on a plateau for the desktop interface. But I do wonder why we need a new OS for this - especially at $200 a pop. Vista really seems like a service release of XP with its core libraries rewritten for extensibility and stability. Good thing to do, but not a boxed release. Why should I pay for a more performant graphic engine that does nothing new for me? Or a redone version of PDF? A truly integrated file system-database-document-management system probably would have been worth $200 a pop, but in its current incarnation as MS Google Desktop, I'll stick to the download version, thank you.
It's not like there's a lack of interesting things to do, either:
If you read those articles about Ballmer "realizing" that MS needs more frequent releases of their OS, it's because they've accepted that companies are not going to upgrade Windows or Office on their present machines, but they will migrate over 3-5 years no matter what - new machines will ship with Vista licenses rather than XP, and eventually it will be easier to just replace the old machines with Vista machines than deal with the "legacy" OS. MS will have a tasty revenue stream from Vista no matter what, because it will still ship with every new machine sold. Enviable business position.
I hope companies and OEMs will realize that if they pressure MS with the threat of breaking ranks for KDGnomeJavaFireLinux, they can repurpose their "OEM" XP licenses to new machines, and get Vista for free or very little. There's got to be a limit to the number of times people can be sold the same product.
I know I sound like every other M$ $uxor
You've actually seen Linux use it's swap file? I have Gentoo installed (KDE) and no matter what I do I can't for the life of me get Linux to use any of the swap file. Sometimes I wonder why I even created one. (I have 512 MB of memory BTW.) XP on the other hand seems contempt to thrash the hell out of its swap whenever I so much as launch a reasonably heavy application (or several lighter ones).