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The RIAA's Halloween Tricks

deus42 writes "BoingBoing has an interesting article about a joint RIAA/MPAA move started yesterday on Capitol Hill. From the article: 'Hollywood has fielded a shockingly ambitious piece of Analog Hole legislation while everyone was out partying in costume. Under a new proposed Analog Hole bill, it will be illegal to make anything capable of digitizing video unless it either has all its outputs approved by the Hollywood studios, or is closed-source, proprietary and tamper-resistant. The idea is to make it impossible to create an MPEG from a video signal unless Hollywood approves it.'"

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  1. Digitize this by concreationist · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can think of a hole I'd like them to approve...

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    1. Re:Digitize this by Pichu0102 · · Score: 5, Funny

      So now someone can broadcast Goatse and not be prosecuted because it would be illegal to record it?

    2. Re:Digitize this by Saiyine · · Score: 5, Funny


      I can think of a hole I'd like them to approve...

      Oh, I know, I know: the anal-og hole!

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    3. Re:Digitize this by DrEldarion · · Score: 5, Funny

      Now, abbreviated, it becomes the "A. Hole" bill. Appropriate :)

    4. Re:Digitize this by ndtechnologies · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Eventually Hollywood, and the RIAA will learn that they it is useless to continue to fight the very people you are trying to sell to. Once their costs become so outrageous with trying to keep up when someone cracks their system...then maybe they will stop. I've said before in earlier posts that since I have started my music store, I am on to videos next...I can't wait, and I just hope they try to stop me.

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    5. Re:Digitize this by Skevin · · Score: 3, Funny

      > Oh, I know, I know: the anal-og hole!

      Actually, "Ogg" has 2 G's.

      Unless you meant Anal Log Hole... but do you really want to subject them to your "Anal Log"? If so, I recommend we leave a couple on their doorstep, to show exactly what kind of law they are trying to legislate.

      Solomon Chang

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    6. Re:Digitize this by colmore · · Score: 4, Funny

      It'll be a cold day in hell before I let the RIAA or MPAA near my A. Hole.

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    7. Re:Digitize this by Type-R · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Heh, they can have my Haapauge PVR-350 when they pry it out of my cold dead hands.

    8. Re:Digitize this by E8086 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I have a far cheaper TVR and my latest project with it is my parent's Christmas, Easter and Groundhog Day gifts for the next couple years. Digitizing and writing to DVD at least the last 10yrs of home movies. These were filmed by my father on the camera be bought. I'm currently recording "Punkin Chukin" on the Discovery Channel for my own personal use. If the RIAA/MPAA want to tell me I can't do either of those I'll gladly tell them where they can shove their bright ideas.

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    9. Re:Digitize this by VagaStorm · · Score: 2, Funny

      They can sue my freaking nightmares then!

    10. Re:Digitize this by pafrusurewa · · Score: 2

      Even better; the Boing Boing title is "Hollywood after the Anal. Hole again."

    11. Re:Digitize this by vsprintf · · Score: 2, Informative

      Heh, they can have my Haapauge PVR-350 when they pry it out of my cold dead hands.

      Or for just video capture or play on a computer, all you needs is a Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-150 (cheap). The funny thing is that it works better under Linux than it does under Windows XP. Kudos to the people on the ivtv and MythTV projects - you rock. The pace of adaptation to new/changing hardware and the production of new drivers is amazing. (Disclaimer: users of a 150 need the absolute latest stable versions of both, and you will have to spend some time RTFMs - it may be free as in beer and free as in libre, but it won't be free of your time invested - that's fair.)

    12. Re:Digitize this by Alsee · · Score: 2, Funny

      they can have my Haapauge PVR-350 when they pry it out of my cold dead hands.

      Your terms are acceptable.

          - The MPAA

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  2. I don't know which is more ridiculous... by Ikn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The simple audacity of their intentions, or the idea that they think they will actually get away with it, or that it will even be plausible.

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    1. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by rovingeyes · · Score: 5, Funny

      You sir, must be new to America!

    2. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by Ikn · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm not new to it, I just haven't -completely- given up on it yet.

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    3. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...or the fact that they actually introduced an "A Hole" bill. Nice that they are at least being up front about it for a change.

    4. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by xmas2003 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I agree with parent - what a load of crap from the RIAA. Video is becoming more and more mainstream, with the average consumer having access via traditional video camera's, webcams, and even phone's. And if I buy the recording device and shoot the video footage, don't I "own" it anyway. Heck, does this mean that I can't do my halloween webcam next year unless I have "permission" from the RIAA?

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    5. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by frodo+from+middle+ea · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I didn't know ridiculous was a synonym to scary.

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    6. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by gregbains · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ahh, I remember my optimistic days, one day common sense would come through, people wouldn't be uptight, cut off, out of touch and politicians would tell the truth.

    7. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by Pichu0102 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You haven't given up on America yet? You're REALLY new here then.

    8. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by letxa2000 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      As long as integrated circuits can be purchased and people can build circuits, any attempt to close the analog hole is doomed to failure. Granted, it might raise the bar a bit so that the hardware will either be sold in the "black market" of the Internet or will force people to build their own, but there's no way short of draconian controls on purchasing raw electronics that Hollywood can ever hope to close the analog hole.

      An unintended side effect might be that it might respark the true electronic hacker culture that has rather deteriorated over the last couple of decades. It used to be someone would build a radio or some electronic device from scratch based on ICs, capacitors, etc. Now some geeks think they're cool because they can attach a few IDE cables, insert some memory, and claim to have "built" a computer. Nonsense... that's not building a computer. This change in culture is why Radio Shack now sells things like cell phones, wireless phones, computers, and stereos and resistors and capacitors gets a few square feet of shelf space in the back.

      But I digress... the point is that as long as resistors, capacitors, ICs, and soldering irons are sold, the analog hole will never be closed. Now, if we ever see RIAA/MPAA suceed at getting the soldering iron declared a "circumvention device", be worried--be very worried. :)

    9. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by flyingsquid · · Score: 4, Funny
      You haven't given up on America yet? You're REALLY new here then.

      That, or he entered a coma in November of 2000, and just woke up...

    10. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'd call my Congressman to protest but he's busy meeting a lobbyist.

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    11. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by anothy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      i have mod points, but i couldn't find the option for "Depressing".

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    12. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by flyingsquid · · Score: 4, Funny
      Now, if we ever see RIAA/MPAA suceed at getting the soldering iron declared a "circumvention device", be worried--be very worried. :)

      They're way ahead of you- their next move is to regulate opposable thumbs.

    13. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by Grax · · Score: 2, Insightful

      His job is to be your lobbyist. Not all of them realize that.

    14. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But I digress... the point is that as long as resistors, capacitors, ICs, and soldering irons are sold, the analog hole will never be closed.

      At least not until all electronic parts vendors require all purchases of each part to be bought in $1000 bulk purchases. And it's already happening: the only local vendor for a part to fix the power connector on my Joust machine would only sell to me if I bought $1000 worth of the part.

      The parts will be kept in the hands of those trusted to assemble them into compliant devices. Individuals will still be able to get soldering irons and solder; just not anything to solder with them. (It will become harder and harder to harvest parts from existing devices as well. Entire circuit boards will be covered in black epoxy.)

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    15. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
      > i have mod points, but i couldn't find the option for "Depressing".

      I'd mod you (+1, Insightful) for pointing out the need for (+1, Depressing).

      I'm hoping for a (+1, Insightful) for pointing out that I use (+1, Informative) as a substitute for (+1, Depressing), thereby resulting in a recursive moderation to (+5, Funny) for this post.

    16. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by wolenczak · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just buy your new dvr/cd drive/tv/whateverencodingdevice from China, Taiwan, Mexico or any other country we've been buying from in the last 15 years

    17. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by Grishnakh · · Score: 5, Informative

      At least not until all electronic parts vendors require all purchases of each part to be bought in $1000 bulk purchases. And it's already happening: the only local vendor for a part to fix the power connector on my Joust machine would only sell to me if I bought $1000 worth of the part.

      Go to mouser.com or digikey.com. They sell in small quantities and surely have far greater selections and far cheaper prices than any place local to you.

      The parts will be kept in the hands of those trusted to assemble them into compliant devices. Individuals will still be able to get soldering irons and solder; just not anything to solder with them. (It will become harder and harder to harvest parts from existing devices as well. Entire circuit boards will be covered in black epoxy.)

      Well that's just great; we can then kiss our entire electronics industry good-bye in this country. There's an enormous number of companies (most small ones) in this country that make and sell electronic devices using component parts. These items are designed in-house by engineers, and then prototyped, frequently with parts from Digi-Key and other such distributors, sold in small quantities. The prototypes are debugged, and then eventually the completed design is manufactured either in-house (if the company is large enough), or out-of-house by a contract manufacturer. I used to work as a component-level design engineer, doing schematic design and PCB layout at a small company, so I know a little about this.

      Eliminate the ability to buy parts in small quantities and you wipe out virtually all prototyping of electronic designs. The effects of this on the economy are incalculable.

    18. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Tell me again when the DMCA was passed? Oh, right, 1998. Telecommunications act, which resulted in massive cosolidations and generally screwed users? Oh, right, 1996.

      If you're going to troll, at least know what you're talking about, because the gross injustices we now have to deal with were instituted during the Clinton administration. I'm not specifically blaming Clinton, and I'm not defending Bush. However, when you blame everything under the sun on Bush, then it kind of raises the nose floor and no one listens when people talk about things Bush really *has* done.

    19. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by Taevin · · Score: 2, Funny

      3) Finally, the bill is laughed out of congress and ignored. In this case, they'll try again later when the climate it right.

      Or just attach it as one of many riders on the latest save the children bill.

    20. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by RobinH · · Score: 5, Insightful

      An unintended side effect might be that it might respark the true electronic hacker culture that has rather deteriorated over the last couple of decades. It used to be someone would build a radio or some electronic device from scratch based on ICs, capacitors, etc. Now some geeks think they're cool because they can attach a few IDE cables, insert some memory, and claim to have "built" a computer. Nonsense... that's not building a computer. This change in culture is why Radio Shack now sells things like cell phones, wireless phones, computers, and stereos and resistors and capacitors gets a few square feet of shelf space in the back.

      Look, the guys at radio shack already look at me like they're about to call the FBI when I go in to purchase 10 resistors and a few capacitors, along with a couple DB9 connectors to make an RS232 terminator. That's on top of the fact that the guy didn't even know he carried that stuff. He says to me, "looks like someone's building a HAM radio". Ya, no kidding. What he's really wondering is if I'm building a bomb to take out a few city blocks.

      So anyway, now if it's illegal to build a device to record video, but a bunch of "electronics hackers" start going out to do it, am I going to be lumped in with them too? Are they going to be raiding surplus electronics stores with stashes of old camcorders tucked away on shelves in the back? Is anyone who tinkers with fundamental electronic components going to be on a government watch list? (Is that why radio shack asks for your phone number when you buy batteries?)

      This is some scary stuff. Americans are so concerned about the right to bear arms, but I really think that if you ever plan to overthrow the government in the future, electronic components for communications and such are going to be just as important as bullets and grenades.

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    21. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This was where the federal government passed a law that said you had to have a tax stamp to sell weed. You know, kind of like the ones that you used to have to have to sell tea. What's interesting to people who aren't potheads is that this was in response to pressure from Hearst and DuPont who were protecting their paper and plastics interests respectively, and in order to demonize mexicans and blacks who were seen as the largest users of the drug, in order to keep them from getting jobs during and immediately after the depression so that white people could get 'em. yay, special interest ruling the nation! And of course let's not forget the things that happened even earlier, all our military actions in south america to protect the interests of the united fruit company.

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    22. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by JustAnotherBob · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well I belive that the reason Radio Shack is mainly selling "phones, wireless phones, computers, and stereos", and the "resistors and capacitors get(s) a few square feet of shelf space in the back", because the true tinkers/hackers in the true sense have all gone online to places such as digikey.com and mouser.com to get all their resistors, capicators, ic's, and the like, because of the outragous prices that Radio Shack charges, add to that, the now, dwindiling selection of these items. And who wants to pay $3 for a pack of 2 capicators when I can get them online for $0.30 each.

    23. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by shmlco · · Score: 2, Insightful
      "As long as integrated circuits can be purchased and people can build circuits, any attempt to close the analog hole is doomed to failure."

      No it's not, and you're missing the point. Back in the '80s the "analog hole" was closed when commercial VHS movies started using MacroVision to prevent casual copying of tapes. Yes, you could go to the back of PopSci and find an ad for a stabilizer, but by and large the vast majority of people didn't bother the extra bucks. They stopped copying and either bought or rented.

      The same applies here. In "raising the bar" you don't need to stop everyone. You just have to make ripping you off hard enough that the majority doesn't bother.

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    24. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by VP · · Score: 5, Informative

      Tell me again when the DMCA was passed? Oh, right, 1998. Telecommunications act, which resulted in massive cosolidations and generally screwed users? Oh, right, 1996.

      Yep, passed by a Republican Congress. The same shady individuals who are still running the legislative branch of the government....

    25. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by letxa2000 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      The same applies here. In "raising the bar" you don't need to stop everyone. You just have to make ripping you off hard enough that the majority doesn't bother.

      No, because only one person in the entire world has to bother to rip the video/audio. Once one person does that and puts it online, no-one else has to. They just download it off the net like any other file.

      Which is why the whole thing is so futile. Even if you "raise the bar" so that 99.9% of the people no longer rip video or audio, the other 0.1% is all that is needed to "seed" a P2P network with an already-ripped, ready-to-play copy. At which point it just spreads as if the "raised bar" never existed in the first place. And if people used to buy DVDs/CDs to rip them into a more convenient format and the "raised bar" means they no longer can, they're just going to hop online and get the version someone else already ripped in the format they want...

      It's left as an exercise to the reader to guess whether or not those people will bother buying the original DVD/CD at that point.

    26. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by JavaBear · · Score: 3, Funny

      Look, the guys at radio shack already look at me like they're about to call the FBI when I go in to purchase 10 resistors and a few capacitors, along with a couple DB9 connectors to make an RS232 terminator. That's on top of the fact that the guy didn't even know he carried that stuff. He says to me, "looks like someone's building a HAM radio". Ya, no kidding. What he's really wondering is if I'm building a bomb to take out a few city blocks.

      Correcting him by telling him that you were just making a terminator probably wouldn't have gone down too well then...

    27. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by shmlco · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I was waiting for that one. Yes, only one person has to rip and distribute it. You may have noticed, however, that governments and law enforcement organizations have gotten MUCH better at tracking the origins and authors of viruses and worms. Fewer "distributors" simply means that more of those resources can be focused on finding the sources.

      And all of which ignores the real problem. If a bunch of instant-gratification idiots didn't think they were entitled to anything and everything they could get their hands on, we wouldn't be in this mess. All it does is give the **AA's all the justification they need to have these ridiculous laws passed.

      A bunch of freeloaders are screwing up MY fair use rights and MY consumer products. And because, like you, they think they're smart enough to game the system, they're going to screw up P2P, torrents, Freenet, and probably the internet itself.

      You're right in one thing. It is futile.

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    28. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by letxa2000 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      You may have noticed, however, that governments and law enforcement organizations have gotten MUCH better at tracking the origins and authors of viruses and worms. Fewer "distributors" simply means that more of those resources can be focused on finding the sources.

      Perhaps. I think finding the sourrce of an MPEG or MP3 is substantially harder than backtracking virus propagation.

      If a bunch of instant-gratification idiots didn't think they were entitled to anything and everything they could get their hands on, we wouldn't be in this mess. All it does is give the **AA's all the justification they need to have these ridiculous laws passed.

      Doesn't matter. Even if the "instant-gratification idiots" shouldn't do what they do, that doesn't make it ok or reasonable for the **AA to do what they try to do. The laws won't be passed to achieve the goals the **AA want and even if they are, they tend to have the opposite effect by forcing customers to get the ripped MP3 (so they can use it on their MP3 player) off the Internet.

      Again, if I normally buy CDs, rip them, and load them on my MP3 player... then all the sudden it's no longer possible to rip my CDs... am I going to stop using my MP3 player? No, of course not. I'm going to get my MP3s from wherever I can find MP3s... and if that's on P2P, that's where I'm going. Now the only question is whether people will be so ethical as to bother buying a CD (that they'll never use) for every MP3 they download. I doubt they will.

      A bunch of freeloaders are screwing up MY fair use rights and MY consumer products.

      BULLSHIT! The **AA is trying to screw with your fair use rights. Yes, they're doing to in an irrational response to freeloaders but that does NOT make the **AA justified in screwing with fair use rights. They (the **AA) need to find a way to be profitable within the limits of the law and within the scope of current technology or find something else to do.

      And because, like you, they think they're smart enough to game the system, they're going to screw up P2P, torrents, Freenet, and probably the internet itself.

      Not at all. There are growing pains, of course, and the RIAA (I have more problems with the RIAA than with the MPAA) will try to stick to its old, obsolete model as much as possible for as long as possible. But it's a lost cause. Technology has made their very existence virtually obsolete. Yes, they'll try to screw with P2P, torrents, and everything else in an effort of self-preservation. And they may have limited success for a limited amount of time, but it's a fight they cannot win. In my opinion, it's a fight they shouldn't win.

      Regardless of the laws that are passed, the RIAA is doomed. The RIAA formed at a time when bands needed them to get their music out and customers needed them to get the music from. Neither the bands nor the customers need them anymore. That's the simple reality. The RIAA survives only on inertia and they can only do that for a limited amount of time. Some amount of spasms, kicks, and groans from the industry is to be expected as it dies.

    29. Re:I don't know which is more ridiculous... by letxa2000 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      No real need for this either - think of software radios. Today's computers should be fast enough to just read the TV signal through a simple A/D converter and do everything else in software

      Bingo!

      Like I said, you'd have to implement absolutely draconian measures to close this hole. You'd have to ban A/D converters... but those have huge uses outside of the music/movie industry. You'd have to ban software... but those have huge uses outside of the music/movie industry.

      Simply, there's no way for the **AA to achieve what it wants through legislation. Technology has made them obsolete and technology will run over and flatten legislation every time.

  3. And no matter what they do... by Quaoar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...people will find a way around it. They will NEVER make any media copy-proof. It has been cracked again and again and again. I am not worried.

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    1. Re:And no matter what they do... by radarsat1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This isn't about technical methods. This is about legislation.

    2. Re:And no matter what they do... by Z-Knight · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Comments such as these "I'm not worried" are what worry me the most. If everyone keeps thinking it is not their problem and that this will never happen, then the RIAA/MPAA has already won because they will have no resistance in passing these idiotic, right-restricting measures/bills. They will sneak it past our upturned noses and they will be laughing all the way to the bank.

      We have to fight them, we can't simply assume someone else will fight for us.

    3. Re:And no matter what they do... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      I just went out with this girl

      Now I know you're lying. This is slashdot.

    4. Re:And no matter what they do... by Evangelion · · Score: 4, Funny


      But the date didn't end with sex.

      It ended in him mocking her because of her beliefs on copyright law.

      Certainly very slashdot.

    5. Re:And no matter what they do... by Ryan+Amos · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And approximately 0% of these cards/devices are produced in the US. The Chinese will still make them, and we will still be able to buy them in Canada. Not to mention this does 0 to stop movie piracy either; the professional pirates will still be around, operating in China like they have been for the past 20 years.

    6. Re:And no matter what they do... by try_anything · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You should be worried. If the MPAA/RIAA can convince consumers that it's in their best material interest to accept every legal restriction producers ask for, it will be a new economic religion that will spill over into political thinking, summed up as, "We're happy because the elites are working hard for our benefit: let no one interfere with them!"

      Assertive and inquisitive consumers are crucial to the economy, and assertive and inquisitive citizens are crucial to democratic society. This must be stopped.

    7. Re:And no matter what they do... by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 2, Informative
      Not only that, but look how they define a "professional device" that is exempt from the restrictions:
      (n) "professional device" means a device that is designed, manufactured, marketed and intended for use by a person who regularly employs such a device for lawful business or industrial purposes, such as making, performing, displaying, distributing or transmitting copies of audiovisual works on a commercial scale at the request of or with the explicit permission of the copyright owner.
      It seems they're implying that not even the copyright owner can possess such a device; only publishers can have them. That would make sense since anyone who creates anything is a copyright owner and could potentially legally own such a device. Does this not codify freedom of the press to only those who can afford one and solidify their control over the market?

      How do they determine "regularly employs"? Will that mean that professional devices will come with a time lock tied to a dead man's switch that will permanently disable it if you try to use it at irregular intervals or fail to use it at regular intervals? (This paragraph is not serious and only seeking to be funny through ridicule.)

      Further:
      If a device is marketed to or is commonly purchased by persons other than described in the foregoing sentence, then such device shall not be considered a "professional device";
      so if you price your device too low so that people not in the publishing business can and do purchase it, your device is illegal and you face a $500,000 fine or 5 years imprisonment or both for first offense, and double for additional offenses.

      That creates contributory infringement just for making a popular device!
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    8. Re:And no matter what they do... by GlassUser · · Score: 3, Funny

      Got head while laughing at a chick...I don't know if I should look up to you for being the ultimate man or look down upon you for degrading women.

      It depends on if you're sitting up or laying back.

    9. Re:And no matter what they do... by InvalidError · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My take on this: let them commit technical suicide if that is what they want.

      After their market has imploded and most of the big players' bottom lines got slaughtered, they will be more likely to quit their unsightly and futile holy war.

      I do not mind living without TV and movies until then... like have mostly already been doing for the past 5+ years.

    10. Re:And no matter what they do... by lightspawn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I just went out with this girl who, and I told her, is the poster child for the MPAA/RIAA. She believes that EVEN if you own the movie (as in bought it at a store, legit and all) you should have to buy it again if you want to say make a backup copy (i.e. you want to backup your movie so you can put the original in a safe area). I couldn't stop laughing at her and kept making fun of her...and will continue to make fun of her.

      Because that's what we geeks do when people don't have the knowledge we do... we make fun of them. That's why so many people like us.

      Hey, why not buy her a copy of Free Culture?

  4. Wow, whatsoever shall we do? by Umuri · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Oh no, the big bad RIAA is being silly again, howsoever shall we watch our tv now? *plugs into a converter, pipes it through co-ax to his computer* Wow that was hard. They need to learn the wonderful world of old technology will never allow for this to happen. Sure it may not be digital, but there will alwyas be a way to convert to a lesser standard, because the entire USA won't upgrade their TVs in an instant.

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    1. Re:Wow, whatsoever shall we do? by robertjw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They need to learn the wonderful world of old technology will never allow for this to happen.

      It's not just old technology. You think if they pass something like this there won't be tech all over the net that will convert/bypass/ignore the new laws. It will be a boon for Ebay and retailers outside the US. The government can't stop drug sales (illegal, perscription, performance enhancing) on the Internet, how are they going to stop illegal video cards. All rules like this do is create a black market and more criminals.

    2. Re:Wow, whatsoever shall we do? by sdpuppy · · Score: 2, Insightful
      ...or schematics on "how to remove the RIAA jumper".

      Will the non-U.S. market want this restriction as standard?

    3. Re:Wow, whatsoever shall we do? by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 3, Insightful
      All rules like this do is create a black market and more criminals.

      That's the idea. In a society where breathing air is illegal, everyone, except the annointed "lawful inhalers" are criminals. Then tyrants have no difficulties in extracting obedience as all citizens are subject to arrests which are both a tool of control and "legal" at the same time. Such ubiquitous "criminality" is one of the basic components of tyranny.

      "War" on drugs is a perfect example: a problem which is medical in nature has been criminalized, resulting in the US having the highest percentage of imprisoned citizens from all the nations in the world, beating places like China, USSR, Iran, North Corea or Cuba. As a bonus side effect, the drug profits have never been greater, related violent crimes never more deadly and the police apparatus never more aggressive, violent, domineering, encroaching on most basic civil rights and never better funded.

      I suspect the "war" on "piracy" is heading in the same direction: total subjegation of citizenry to zealous special interests. Combine this with resurgence of retarded, violent, anti-intellectual theocracy in the USA and the trickle of scientists and others who depend on unresticted knowledge for their trade who are leaving the US now will become a deluge. USA is going the way most of the empires of the past have: self-destruction in the name of greed and religion.

  5. Remember by jpx7777 · · Score: 2, Funny

    If you outlaw mpegs, only outlaws will have mpegs.

  6. And this means... by rdoger6424 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The people who are doing this illegally still don't care, but the *aa has managed to alienate yet more people.

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  7. A modest proposal by Guysmiley777 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Make lobbying illegal, punishable by hanging in front of the Capitol Building. Problem solved.

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    1. Re:A modest proposal by Jtheletter · · Score: 2, Funny
      Make lobbying illegal, punishable by hanging in front of the Capitol Building. Problem solved.

      Your proposal intrigues me, sir. I wish to support you in your endevor to have this passed by congress, only I feel a bit unsure about the best way to lobby such a bill....

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    2. Re:A modest proposal by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Note the title of the grandparent's post.

      A Modest Proposal For Preventing the Children of Poor People in Ireland from Being a Burden to Their Parents or Country, and for Making Them Beneficial to the Public: a satirical phamphlet written by Johnathan Swift in which the author (a persona, not Swift) advocates solving poverty by eating babies of poor people.

      I'll leave it to you to figure out the grandparent's analogy (although I'm not sure it's quite what the grandparent really intended).

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    3. Re:A modest proposal by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, no, no. "A modest proposal" would be to empower the FDA to approve and grade meat made from lobbyists.

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  8. And thus... by nightsweat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And thus did the American cultural hegemony over the rest of the world collapse, leading to a world where India and China exported their values through their music and films while the Hollywood studios argued about whether consumers should be allowed to keep a taped episode of Will and Grace for 24 hours or only 12...

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    1. Re:And thus... by eln · · Score: 4, Funny

      2 good movies in 800 per year is not something to be proud of.

      Why not? You've got the US beat by at least one.

  9. Some perspectives on...perspectives by pythonguyy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This whole piracy thing is so silly. It's wierder than "terrorist". Both terms depend on who they are working for. If they're working for the "competition"(so to speak), they're pirates and terrorists. If they're on "our" side, they're distributors and freedom fighters. Do you know who will be the first to go out of business when P2P really takes off? The pirates. The guys out there selling millions of bootlegs. Most pirates usually sell the top 40, RIAA stuff, so they also "controlled" who was distributed, but they are the most expendable. Hell, they're off the books, so who's gonna care? Most people understand that P2P will increase record sales and concert attendance manyfold. This isn't just about money. Control plays a bigger role here. Just like both sides use terrorists in a war, both sides use pirates to distribute their wares. It seems to be mutually parasitic. What I'm trying to say here is that piracy is a diversion, a smokescreen used by those who want to control distribution of information(text, audio, video). It's little different from those who use terrorism to create unjust laws.

    (kind of offtopic)
    I sure wish the ptroleum industry was as concerned about the leaks in their distribution system as the content industry is about theirs. (11230681)

    1. Re:Some perspectives on...perspectives by Mark_Uplanguage · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree with the smokescreen argument.

      I'd also like to comment that while the ACLU/EFF do a great defending our rights against moves such as this, it seems odd that the congress we elect to preserve our rights is the same congress taking money from big business to remove our rights. Does the constitution need a group of lobbyists to protect itself? With all of the supreme court moving lately I've heard a few times how some members of congress get upset when the supreme court comes in to say they've oversetpped their bounds. Waiting for the checks and balances in the system to work themselves out really seems like a pain, but it's our country and if you're going to complain make sure you stand up and fight this type of lunacy.

      Find your cause and do more than comment on slashdot.

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  10. ..prise my analog hole from my cold, dead hands by maharg · · Score: 4, Funny

    ewwww. I can't believe I typed that.

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  11. Excellent move by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Kills two birds with one stone. Copyright infringement becomes slightly harder, but more importantly, independent production of content comes to a stillstand. With no consumer hardware capable of filming and making arbitrary reproductions of the material, how will anyone make a movie? Yep, gotta have the pro hardware. $$$

    1. Re:Excellent move by Gothic_Walrus · · Score: 4, Insightful
      No they won't.

      Look at how many indie films have been made with consumer-level equipment. Look at the movies that are still done with hand-drawn animation or with puppets that are moved frame by frame. People can still take amazing pictures in black and white, and sometimes stylized is better than realistic or fancy, a la Sin City (ignoring the technology that went into it for effects like the splashes of color).

      Technology doesn't change artistic quality. Expectations do.

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  12. Wait a sec, the A'Hole bill? by Kenja · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sweet, sweet irony.

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  14. What will historians think..... by 10101001011 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I honestly wonder what historians will think of this time period, say, one hundred years from now. Think of how we view the Western European Dark Ages, where education slowed to a halt, an organization managed to secure society and manipulate it at will, while those in the East jumped leaps and bounds ahead of them. Gosh, sounds vaguely familiar....

    1. Re:What will historians think..... by garcia · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I honestly wonder what historians will think of this time period, say, one hundred years from now. Think of how we view the Western European Dark Ages, where education slowed to a halt, an organization managed to secure society and manipulate it at will, while those in the East jumped leaps and bounds ahead of them. Gosh, sounds vaguely familiar....

      Ahh yes, the good 'ol "How History Repeats Itself" thing. Yup, I agree. We should learn from our mistakes yet we are told time and time again how this is so much better!

      I went to see Good Night and Good Luck which was supposed to reiterate the importance of learning from history. I mentioned that I went to see it to my father. His response to me was: "Son, I lived through that fucking horseshit. I hated that reporter. Why would I want to relive all that shit again?"

      Obviously my response fell upon deaf ears. *That* is why history continues to repeat itself. People are just UNWILLING to accept that they are wrong.

  15. To save time... by captnkurt · · Score: 2, Funny

    let's just call it The A-Hole Bill, shall we?

  16. If technology is outlawed... by Zordak · · Score: 5, Funny
    Remember! If technology is outlawed, only outlaws will have technology.

    And that would make all of the geeks rogue outlaw bad-boy types, which would make them suddenly very appealing to women, so maybe this isn't such a bad idea after all.

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  17. Any Digitization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Does this mean that if I view a video with my eyeballs and write down a number based on what I see I'm subject to a lawsuit as an unapproved and unlicensed device?

  18. Ex Post Facto by mosb1000 · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can't retroactively make something illegal.

    1. Re:Ex Post Facto by voidptr · · Score: 2, Informative

      Correction: You can't prosecute legal activities in the past under new legislation. I can't outlaw chewing bubble gum tomorrow and then prosecute you for chewing it last week. I can get you for doing it next week.

      You can make continued posession of a legally obtained object illegal. It's rare that it happens, as things usually get grandfathered in, but states have done it before requiring offending items to either be removed from the jurisdiction or destroyed. If I bought a gun legally last year and they've banned it this year, I can't keep it in state anymore.

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  19. Re: Cracking is Illegal by mpapet · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It has been cracked again and again and again

    The media companies will (if they haven't already) make cracking a punishable offense. As it is they drag people through court that crack their schemes just to make an example of them regardless of what the local laws may/may not give them.

    Better still, the corporations get to characterize them as the least desirable citizens in the court. It's just like the medical marijuana reformers vs the "war on drugs" institutions.

    Blowing it off because it can be cracked just isn't the answer.

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  20. Informonopoly by inKubus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Perhaps they are referring to old films and stuff that people have just started archiving with the advent of affordable telecine, etc. Or it could be that they are about to offically close the hole in digital using some ingenious new system and they want to remove the analog option completely first.

    Soon, you won't be able to buy a new DVD or CD player, reciever, etc. that has analog inputs and outputs, since they won't be "certified". Another reason is that they (the big studios and publishing companies) really want to move over into video on demand style stuff as an industry and cut out the retailers and wholesalers and distributers who have acted as middlemen.

    The ultimate goal, of course, is to control all information, entertainment or otherwise, for monetary and political gain.

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  21. Broadcast Flag On Steroids, But So What? by jeblucas · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The article annoyingly refers to this as "Broadcast Flag On Steroids", but who cares? That concept was tossed out--on it's unanimous ass, mind you--by the DC Court of Appeals. An opinion filed by our current Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. This thing is as least as obtrusive as the Broadcast Flag, which the Court says was unenforceable because the FCC doesn't have the power to tell manufacturers how to build things. How could this bill be treated any differently?

    Here's a link to the EFF's Broadcast Flag work.

    Here's a PDF link to [then] Circuit Judge Edwards' decision in ALA v. FCC.

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    1. Re:Broadcast Flag On Steroids, But So What? by Software · · Score: 4, Informative

      The broadcast flag was tossed out because the court found that the FCC did not have the authority to impose it. It was only a regulation; it was not a law passed by Congress and signed by the President. If the "A. Hole" bill passes and is signed, then the law will have to be proven unconstitutional. It won't be an unauthorized regulation like BF.

  22. "Analog signals" covers more than RIAA territory. by radarsat1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Are they trying to make life insanely difficult for student and amateur video makers?

    What I don't get is that there is TONS of "analog signal" that is not RIAA-owned, so how can they legislate on it?

    Or perhaps they won't, but apparently they'll make it very difficult to use the required equipment. Make life difficult for students, and you're cutting off your source of income 20 years down the road..

  23. They never got over Sony v. Betamax by Windcatcher · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Everything will eventually go digital, and once no one is manufacturing analog equipment (VCRs) anymore, there won't be any more VCR's (or anything that does the same thing). Say goodbye to your capture card, too, or be prepared to PAY everytime you want to record something on your ATI All-In-Wonder.

    From my standpoint, they couldn't possibly poison the well any further. The day I give them any cash so they can use it to buy my representatives is the day Satan's snowplow crews start making money.

  24. Re:Please Clue Stick Me by DevNova · · Score: 4, Informative

    The reason being that eventually, most if not all digital methods of transmittal will be controlled by DRM, and thus, the industry already has control of that. After that, it will still be possible to make copies via analog methods, and they want to make sure those copies don't wind up in some other digital, albeit slightly quality-degraded form.

  25. This will never get passed. by Domasi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Honestly, I know many people here dont care about the RIAA/MPAA or any sub-faction of their org... but seriously... how many large companies that use analog video for their digital products. You think TV tuners are the only thing that do analog to digital? Every VCR, DVD, DVR, and most computers now do some form of analog to digital. You have Sony's video camera line alone that has the one button function of burn to dvd/vcd. That alone would be enough for Sony to look into this and that is just one of many companies that have this kind or other similiar technologies. I do not believe this will ever get passed.

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  26. No Effect! by Junior+Samples · · Score: 2, Funny
    However, if you're someone who actually wants to infringe copyright by downloading video from the Internet, this will have zero effect on you.
    As the man said, It really doesn't affect me.
  27. Hearing Scheduled by bluffcityjk · · Score: 2, Informative

    They already have a hearing scheduled for Thursday.
    http://judiciary.house.gov/oversight.aspx?ID=202
    And here is the list of the members of the Subcommittee on Courts, the Internet, and Intellectual Property, in case you're interested. ;-)
    http://judiciary.house.gov/committeestructure.aspx ?committee=3

  28. Re:[pries] my analog hole from my cold, dead hands by Fareq · · Score: 4, Informative

    From Dictionary.com

    prise

    v 1: to move or force, especially in an effort to get something open; "The burglar jimmied the lock", "Raccoons managed to pry the lid off the garbage pail" [syn: pry, prize, lever, jimmy] 2: make an uninvited or presumptuous inquiry; "They pried the information out of him" [syn: pry] 3: regard highly; think much of; "I respect his judgement"; "We prize his creativity" [syn: respect, esteem, value, prize] [ant: disrespect]

    That word can mean what he wanted it to mean.

  29. What all non-RIAA, non-MPAA members should do by Bad+Boy+Marty · · Score: 5, Informative

    is go to your 3 elected representatives (in the US, each citizen is represented to the Federal Government by 2 Senators (per state; sorry, D.C. and Territories) and a Representative (per Congressional District)) -- seriously, call up their offices and arrange a face-to-face meeting -- explaining why any legislation that in any way restricts the current "fair use" of copyrighted material is so basically wrong. Join the EFF. Explain how all "survey papers" would be made illegal if this restriction of fair use is permitted (remember, as soon as it applies to one medium, it will shortly follow that it will apply to all media).

    The MPAA & RIAA are both mired in a business model that is out of date, unfair to most of the participants, and robs blind all the consumers. Ask any so-called "indie" producer. We must put a stop to this.

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  30. Three questions. by leereyno · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing. Therefore there are three questions that must be asked:

    1) Which senators and congressmen submitted this bill for consideration?

    2) When are they up for reelection?

    3) Where do I send a check to support their opponents?

    Bitching and moaning about Hollywood trying to pull crap like this is all fine and good, but unless we PUNISH their accomplices in government, this kind of crap will just keep going and going.

    So the next time these turkeys are up for election, start sending their opponents money. When you send them the money, make sure you include a little note explaining exactly WHY you're sending them money. While you're at it, send the turkey a note as well telling him that you've just sent his opponent money and why.

    This isn't limited to just the people from the districts in question. I live in Arizona, but there is nothing to stop me from making a contribution to a candidate in another state. I can't take part in the official election, but I can sure as hell vote with my money. Imagine if one of the turkeys who tried to pull this crap got tens of thousands of letters from accross the country that all said the same thing: "I gave your opponent X dollars because you supported the Analog Hole bill" Meanwhile their opponents get tens of thousands of letters saying "I'm giving you X dollars because your opponent supported the Analog Hole bill, don't make the mistake he did."

    Freedom is precious and fragile. It is also one of the few things in this world outside of family worth dying for. You can either fight for your freedom, or you can sit by idly and hope that things don't get any worse. Hope that someone else will pick up the tab for your liberty. Hope that the ever-present forces that seek to deny you your freedom will go away. Well guess what, they won't. If you're not fighting against them then you're actively helping them. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance and it is a price that we all must pay each and every day. If you're not fighting for your freedom then you've already forfeited it.

    Lee

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  31. Ah, now you understand.... by Geckoman · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Video is becoming more and more mainstream, with the average consumer having access via traditional video camera's, webcams, and even phone's. And if I buy the recording device and shoot the video footage, don't I "own" it anyway.
    Now you're starting to get the idea! The MPAA/RIAA crusade against "digital piracy" has never been about protecting the artists or protecting their intellectual property or even solely about preserving their current business models. It has always been about control! First, control of distribution. Then control of consumption. And finally control of production.

    It isn't individuals in their bedrooms sharing albums and movies that scares the studios, it is individuals in their garages making albums and movies.

    If people are free to create and distribute their own content, it does two things:

    1. It diminishes that person's role as a consumer. People who are busy creating new things will naturally find less time to consume the studios' products. Thousands and millions of producers will inevitably have an impact media consumption.
    2. It diminishes the value of particular productions. The demand for new content won't increase significantly, because people only have 24 hours in a day (and it may decrease per #1), but the available content will increase significantly. More supply plus equal (or less deman) implies lower values.

    Of course, they also run the risk of small, independent producers creating content that is superior to their own. To use an analogy, the big media companies are in the same position now that the Big Three auto makers were in the early 70s. They've had a cooperative oligarchy for decades. Now there are smaller, cheaper,faster (and potentially better) competitors entering their market. Rather than compete in the new world of smaller cars and expensive gas (or, for the studios, independent content and cheap distribution), they react by lobbying for import restrictions and spreading FUD about unsafe foreign cars (or lobbying for content controls and spreading FUD about destroying the incentive to create).

    They probably realize this, and they've seen what the failure to successfully lobby has done to the American car industry. Rather than choosing the alternative route and rapidly adapting to the new world, the lesson they've learned from the past is that they need to lobby more effectively.

  32. See what happens when they "get it" by linwoes · · Score: 2, Insightful

    All us /.ers have judiciously ridiculed all the DRM techniques introduced to date. Now corp america finally gets it...If you can convert it to one format, *they* can convert it to something else. The suits have finally realized they must control everything to control anything. Maybe after this fails they will realize they are no longer in control and make quality and price a differentiator instead of sitting and playing Monoply with all their friends.

    1. Re:See what happens when they "get it" by penguinrenegade · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I heard a great analogy today. Software is like a vehicle. Software should be able to be modified just like buying a Harley and modifying it like West Coast Choppers does. As long as all the parties get paid, the Harley dealer, the suppliers of the mods, etc., then no one can stop it as long as it's not illegal.

      Same with movies. If I owned a film copy of a movie, there is nothing that could stop me from splicing it together to make funny edits, have someone talking to themselves, flipping the picture backwards, etc.

      Yet the *IAA want to prevent you from doing just exactly that. They want to force you to watch the commercials during broadcasts, and not do anything whatsoever with their material that they don't approve.

      Freedom of expression - art made of books for instance - gives Americans the rights to do just exactly these things. In fact, we have the right to go taket the Harley, modify it, and sell it at a profit if we wish. CDs and DVDs come with printing on them that they may not be re-sold for any reason now. Not only can we not utilize a CD in art, we can't edit it to a new form and re-sell it with the same profit rules that we apply to any other physical property. How exactly is this fair?

      Contact your local congressmen and senators. This is insidious and gives new meaning to underhanded tactics.

    2. Re:See what happens when they "get it" by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Informative

      CDs and DVDs can say they can't be resold all they want, but first sale law trumps any licensing agreement you might find on the packaging anyway.

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    3. Re:See what happens when they "get it" by rworne · · Score: 4, Informative
      CDs and DVDs come with printing on them that they may not be re-sold for any reason now. Not only can we not utilize a CD in art, we can't edit it to a new form and re-sell it with the same profit rules that we apply to any other physical property. How exactly is this fair?


      I always thought the doctrine of first sale prevented the "no resale" markings on CDs and DVDs.

      I knew it was a bad omen when Japanese publishers started marking media (especially videogames) with the "No Resale" tag to kill the secondary (used) market about 4 or 5 years ago. One court case later, SoftMap loses against the publishers and "No Resale" becomes enforceable in Japan. What it means is that you need permission from the copyright holders to resell copyrighted goods. Fat chance getting this permission since the publishers/rights holders would rather sell an extra copy than allow a used copy to change hands.

      Fast forward a couple years and now it's making appearances in the US too. Why am I not surprised?

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    4. Re:See what happens when they "get it" by OpenGLFan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      While I wholeheartedly agree with the spirit of the analogy, I'd be wary about applying it. Many modifications render vehicles "non-streetlegal". Several of the more aggressive sportscar modifications are not classified as legal for public highways for safety-related reasons.

      Methinks you're liable to get trapped in your own analogy.

  33. Re:"Analog signals" covers more than RIAA territor by AtariEric · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Are they trying to make life insanely difficult for student and amateur video makers?

    Yes.

    What I don't get is that there is TONS of "analog signal" that is not RIAA-owned, so how can they legislate on it?

    The idea is for the Music And Film Industry Associations to eventually own every slice of "signal" possible - creation of any non-static media will have to be okayed by the Man - for enough cash, of course.

    Or perhaps they won't, but apparently they'll make it very difficult to use the required equipment. Make life difficult for students, and you're cutting off your source of income 20 years down the road..

    20 years? These people can't see twenty weeks down the road...

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  34. Re:Not possible by jmorris42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > But the problem is not technical - the board would be illegal.

    Ah, but that is the beauty of the situation. Since any attempt to outlaw the millions of boards already in the field would be a non-starter, they really can't try outlawing mere possession of an unlicensed encoder. Nope, they will go for their old standby and only try to outlaw importation and sales. And because of the nature of our form of government, Congress lacks the power to outlaw sales so they will go for their old standby and invoke the Commerce Clause, forbidding unFritzed boards to be sold in "Interstate Commerce". But neighbors selling to neighbors aren't engaged in Interstate Commerce and we are about to have a majority on the Supreme Court who can actually read. Interesting times ahead.

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  35. Re:"Analog signals" covers more than RIAA territor by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Are they trying to make life insanely difficult for student and amateur video makers?

    Why, of course they are. Unless they are in an MPAA sanctioned film-school, using expensive *AA sanctioned recording technology. Because we can't possibly allow an independant film-maker to make a movie which does better than a highly expensive Hollywood flop. Witness, Saw II and Zorro from this weekend.

    Do you have any idea of how much money they would lose if just anyone could release a better movie than they can?

    And home movies are right out. You could be at home watching little Billy win the track meet again, instead of generating revenue for them or their advertisers. What are you, a communist?

    What I don't get is that there is TONS of "analog signal" that is not RIAA-owned, so how can they legislate on it?

    Same way they've done this all along -- "we don't care what you're doing with it, someone could, in theory rob from us. Therefore nobody gets access to the technology". Sheesh, it would be like arming terrorists or something. They basically try to cut off any arguments about legitimate contexts in which you would so this -- it's clearly a smokescreen to actually Pirate The Day After Tomorrow.
    Or perhaps they won't, but apparently they'll make it very difficult to use the required equipment. Make life difficult for students, and you're cutting off your source of income 20 years down the road..

    Student film-makers are too pesky. You could get someone new Like Michael Moore who points out the wickedness of the studio system. All future film-makers will be genetically engineered to give us a steady stream of gruel which has been approved by the *AA's.

    Face it, in the Draconian future the *AAs envison, any technology capable of recording/transmitting either video or audio is just too dangerous to be in the hands of consumers and needs to be outlawed and controlled. I mean, we don't sell assault weapons to children, do we?
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  36. A bit more detail, please by rewt66 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The article (or the EFF article it linked, I forget which) said that this bill was brought before a House committee. Well, what I want to know is, did it pass?

    And who brought it before the committee? Did a Representative actually introduce/sponsor this? If so, which representative(s)? Let's see... all representatives are elected every 2 years, next one in November 2006, exactly one year from now... An opponent could fry the person responsible, if they could just communicate to the public what this scoundrel tried to get passed...

    1. Re:A bit more detail, please by kbielefe · · Score: 5, Informative
      house.gov is your friend. The hearing isn't actually scheduled until Thursday at 2:00 p.m. Basically, a draft of the proposed legislation was released yesterday by a lobbyist. A congressman hasn't even touched it except for maybe a few subcommittee members reading it in preparation for the hearing. It hasn't been sponsored, co-sponsored, introduced, or even mentioned in any congressional record. There are still a dozen roadblocks before this even comes close to becoming a law. A congressman actually has to endorse it, the subcommittee chair can kill it, the subcommittee can kill it, the committee chair can kill it, the committee can kill it, the speaker of the house can kill it, and the full house can kill it. And then the whole process must be repeated in the senate. And then the president must sign it. Yes, this is a horrible piece of legislation, but in my opinion it has a slim chance of passing.

      And lest you think all lobbyists are evil, Public Knowledge and the Home Recording Rights Coalition will also be testifying at the hearing.

      There are no representatives from my state (Arizona) on the committee, and they get so much correspondence that they essentially ignore anyone who is not their direct constituent, but if your congressman is on the list, then now is the time to let them know how you feel, especially if you are from Texas or California.

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  37. Remember the jurisdiction by terrencefw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Don't forget that Americans can only make stuff illegal in the USA. The rest of the world couldn't give a flying fuck what's illegal there. Do I care about the DMCA? No, because I don't live in the USA.

    If this kind of legislation continues to go through, the USA will end up back in the tehcnological stone age as emerging economies such as India and China overtake. Don't forget that these economies still make stuff for the west too. Does your Toyoya have all the dashboard icons in Japanese? Of course not.

    There are a groing number of bands rejecting the copy protection that the labels are applying to their CDs. I'm sure the film industry will follow soon. How long before the next Hollywood blockbuster is produced by a non-USA company because they know the USA film industry's anti-consumer practices will actually harm the films success.

    My only fear living here in Europe is that our brain-dead politicians will follow suit with the USAs practices. There's still a lot of work to do to make sure we don't.

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    1. Re:Remember the jurisdiction by FirstTimeCaller · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Remember... this legislation is being pushed on behalf of the pursuit of the almighty dollar. I assume that your politicians like money as well as ours (be it euros or pounds).

      As goes the USA, so goes the world (eventually). Maybe less so that before, but still...

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  38. McCarthy's legacy by moviepig.com · · Score: 2, Insightful
    ...capital hill...

    ...so renamed to show that it's Adam Smith, and not some commie, who thrives there...

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  39. Outrageous measures require outrageous responses. by rpresser · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Either we tar and feather every single official at the RIAA and MPAA, as well as any Senator or Congressmen who even whispers about supporting this horror ...

    Or we stop being "consumers", NOW. Starve the fuckers.

    Don't buy any more CDs. Ever.

    Don't buy any more DVDs. Ever.

    Don't go to any movies in the theatres, attend any concerts, patronize iTunes or Napster, play any MP3s, watch any TV, visit ANY web sites with ANY advertising. If your favorite indie bands or filmmakers get hurt too, that's their problem.

    Learn to read and have conversations. Play your own instruments. Have a lot of sex.

    Strike. Now.

  40. DMCA anyone?! by plasmacutter · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Tech firms didn't pay much attention to the DMCA when it was fielded.

    CEA and other tech reps from that time speak about it now with great regret.. .they thought it was obscenely extreme at the time, but assumed the congress people would "do the right thing".

    You, sir, are living in a dream world if you think this bill will fail if not strongly opposed.

    The last one gave these "A holes" almost complete regulatory control over software and consumer electronic developers.

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  41. NOT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE by a_greer2005 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is a move to try and stop the "home brew tv" industry. Personal cams were fine when they shot crappy quality, but now that truly creative people can have a setup that can pull off anything the big boys can do for under 10 grand...they are shitting their pants...now that vic-xasts on places like itunes ate taking off with out them as the middle man, they are shitting their pants...in general this is a final move, proving cowardis, and shame of their content, knowing that now they can be upstaged by kids in a garage with a powermac and a HDV Cam so they are looking for revinew by threatening the companies that make the stuff.

  42. Re:Ownership rights. by ArghBlarg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're right to be confused. The music and movie industry, as far as I can tell, actually believe they have the god-given right to be the *only* producers of 'culture' -- our songs, our legends and myths, they want to own it all. In their ideal world, you wouldn't even dream of creating anything yourself. That's why it's up to individuals to keep creating culture and letting it out as copyleft, public domain, GPL, whatever.. just anything other than the frameworks they have constructed to lock our culture up.

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  43. METHOD OF... by Zordak · · Score: 3, Funny
    I claim:
    1. A method of making oneself irresistably attractive to the opposit sex comprising
    a. Inventing technologies with multiple beneficial uses to society.
    b. Proliferating said technologies.
    c. Utilizing said technologies in a single manner that potentially undercuts existing profit models for monied business lobbies.
    d. Inducing said lobbies to petition government to make such technologies illegal.
    e. Cotinuing to investigate, develop, maintain, utilize and otherwise possess said technologies.
    f. Publishing to members of the opposite sex said possession of said technologies.
    g. [obligatory] ???
    h. [obligatory] Profit!
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  44. Information wants to be free. by ichigo+2.0 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth's final century, free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-chained people whose leaders at last lose their grip on information flow will soon burst with freedom and vitality, but the free nation gradually constricting its grip on public discourse has begun its rapid slide into despotism. Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master. - Commissioner Pravin Lal

  45. disease by moxley · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was going to say:

    "Im so sick of their bullshit; (that goes for the MPAA And the RIAA).

    Rather than using their brains and attempting to understand and possibly even benefit from something they are not going to be able to control they act like crazed luddites with fascistrabies (i'm convinced this disease exists and is running rampant in the US. -

    Everytime we hear something from these tools it's more outlandish and restrictive than the last lame ass legislation they've tried to induce via whatever backdoor lophole extralegal method they haven't yet exhausted. "

      - but instead I think I will just laugh at the futility and desparateness of every move they make. The only thing that stops my laughter from continuing is when I think about the general caliber of person in Government in the US. Then I realize that it is possible that they might get one of these things passed and life would suck for the short amount of time it took for the market and the public to respond to the digital handcuffs on their devices.

  46. A common ploy! by CroweAbyss · · Score: 2, Interesting
    This is the perfect example of a bait and switch.

    Instead of going with their original plan, they came up with an absurd proposition that is bound to get thrown out. The next bill they suggest will appear resonable in comparison to the banning of all equipmentment capable of exploting the a-hole. "Well if you don't let us have this one, I GUESS we'll settle for this second one."

    Typical persuasion tactics.

  47. Re:Not possible by spisska · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But the problem is not technical - the board would be illegal.

    Assuming this bit of nonsense were to get anywhere (which it won't), I think you could still sell kits without any problem. It's a bit like with homebrew -- it's illegal for a shop to sell alcohol to a minor but there's nothing wrong with a shop selling to a minor barley malt, hops, yeast, corn sugar, fermenting bins, airlocks, bottles, caps, capper, and a whole range of books on the fine art of zymology.

    Similarly, it would be illegal to sell a device that captures an analog video signal to a digital format, but it would not be illegal to sell breadboards, DSPs, coaxial/component jacks, solder, etc.

    Nevertheless, this is just a proposal from an industry lobbyist -- the kind of thing that happens all the time in Washington. It isn't a bill, and if by some miracle it becomes a bill, it will never make it out of committee. Remember, electronics manufacturers also have some pretty powerful lobbyists, and there's no way that they will let Hollywood dictate design and engineering decisions.

  48. Re:[pries] my analog hole from my cold, dead hands by ColaMan · · Score: 3, Informative

    prise

    v 1: to move or force, especially in an effort to get something open; "The burglar jimmied the lock", "Raccoons managed to pry the lid off the garbage pail" [syn: pry, prize, lever, jimmy]


    Yes. Wait, not the Prize synonym, dumbasses.


    2: make an uninvited or presumptuous inquiry; "They pried the information out of him" [syn: pry]


    Yes.


    3: regard highly; think much of; "I respect his judgement"; "We prize his creativity" [syn: respect, esteem, value, prize] [ant: disrespect]


    NO! WRONG! TOTALLY WRONG! WHERE'D YOU LEARN THIS? STOP DOING IT!
    (Apologies to Bob the Angry Flower)

    "Pri S e" and "Pri Z e" are TOTALLY DIFFERENT WORDS, with completely seperate meanings. Fucking dictionary.com are on fucking crack, the cocksucking motherfuckers ! It's fuckheads like these that will spearhead the demise of the english language. Can't they recognise a simple fucking homophone when they fucking see it!? Fucking Idiots.

    There. I feel better now. Continue.

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  49. So am I now a criminal by earthforce_1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    for digitizing my parents 8mm home movies without Hollywood's consent?

    Sorry, but I find Life south of the border is getting loonier by the minute. Please remind me who won the cold war? I think Stalin is laughing in his grave.

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  50. Re:Just a reminder by robertjw · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We don't HAVE to buy drugs

    Untrue. Many people rely on medications of one sort or another to keep them alive and narcotic addicts generally have a physical dependancy on the products.

    Bottom line is it's all about FREEDOM. Most things you and I do every day we don't HAVE to do, does that make them any less important to our quality of life? Thing is about this article, it goes beyond the idea of piracy. If Hollywood controls what people can see is, that not a violation of our basic rights. Shouldn't the average citizen have just as much right to create and distribute content as Hollywood does? The whole purpose behind this proposition is to control the content by controlling the hardware. I don't want to give our government or any particular special interest group that kind of control over our society.

  51. Re:OH JOY, LET'S READ ON... by outZider · · Score: 4, Funny

    Please take pictures.

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  52. Re:Digitize this, by ryanmetcalf · · Score: 2, Insightful

    America Spells Bullshit, B.U.L.L. S.H.I.T.
    come on
    ANY deivce that turns analog video into a digital signal. That includes the Pinacle and Hauppage video input deives, as in the ones poeple use to take THEIR home movies and make them into files on their computer. Just because Hollywood movies can be done the same, doesn't mean every device should be illegal. Christ Sakes. Just because a car is mechanically capable of going past the speed limit, does it mean we make its manufacture illegal? MPAA, leave video capture devices alone. It's not the creation of pirated materials thats the problem its the distrobution. Just because you make it hard to copy, means fewer people are going to figure it out, that doesn't effect the real problem, because now those few people are using networks to spread the "contraband." So now, its still to everyone it just propigated a different way!

    **This is something the MPAA needs to leave well enough alone, home video capture devices. OMG!**

    $%^Does anyone have a Online Petition started yet? Post the link!^%$

  53. Amen by Phoenix666 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Amen and Amen! People think that defending freedom is a task that's outsourced to the military and cops and maybe the intelligence services. In fact, it's the duty of every human being who wants to be able to say what they want, go where they want, believe what they want, and become what they want.

    But let's bring it down to the level of the every day. Good candidates for office are out there. They're constantly hurting for money, but even more than that, expert help. If you can give either, it is your duty to do so. Many Slashdotters will think nothing of spending $5/day on coffee. Multiply that by a five day work week and you're spending $1,250/yr. on coffee. For that price, you can give a real shot in the arm to the fine aspiring public servant of your choice. A city council race in NYC, for example, typically has a budget of $20K. Forego your daily cup of joe and you can single-handedly account for 5% of a great candidate's warchest. And suddenly you'll have someone representing you who will keep your streets patched, your neighborhood regularly patrolled and cleaned, and larger, abstract things like affordable housing defended. And if you can take the Board of Elections data, crunch it into a list of likely voters, and help your candidate allocate his/her resources efficiently, then you've saved them the $25K it costs to procure the leading commercial software solution.

    In short, the power to create change/improvement in the political scene is eminently in your hands. And like all things, the better the candidates you help elect to local office, the finer the pool of choices you have when fighting for higher state and federal offices. After all, there are always outliers who go from zero to Congress in one try, but mostly it works like a farm team system.

    Think about it, consider, and act. If you don't, the schmuck who lives down the street who's out to screw you and everyone else certainly will, and you will be very, very unhappy with the result.

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  54. if you actually READ the Running Man...... by way2trivial · · Score: 2, Interesting

    which was adapted into a movie starring the now govenor of california...

    it's pretty good.

    Among the other 'worlds gone to shit' elements are 'freevee' which is tv, which by law, must be on 24 hours a day in every household..
    (I think there was even allusion to requirements that the volume be above 0 a certain number of hours per day, but I can't remember for sure)

    I read the article at boing, and couldn't help but think freevee was next....

    it'll never happen, you'll have to excuse me now, I gotta go to the store and get some more mokie-cokes....

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  55. Fight, that's what. by Phoenix666 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So, what are you doing about it? Are you a thinking, educated, informed, and motivated human being? If you are, you can make an enormous difference.

    I kept bitching on sites like Slashdot for years and ultimately found it uniquely unsatisfying. Nothing changed. So 18 months ago I started a grassroots political organization in New York. 8 months ago there was a reform package put before the state legislature that had the audacity to require legislators to actually be present to vote, and many, many other good things. One of our state assemblypeople in NYC came out four-square against the reforms. So I gathered four people from our organization, went out on a Saturday and handed out 300 flyers in 2.5 hours in front of 2 supermarkets in the woman's district. Our 300 flyers generated roughly 80 phone calls to the lawmaker in question. Her chief of staff left a message on our machine the next day calling us all kinds of unholy names. But in the end she did a 180 and voted for the reforms.

    Point? I did it, and you can too. Easily. So do. Go out and do.

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  56. Good News by Overzeetop · · Score: 4, Informative

    Representative Boucher (D-Virginia) is on this commitee. He is a strong opponent of the restrictions sought by the RIAA/MPAA. There will be at least one voice on the committee that will tell them where they can put their draft.

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  57. Re:"This land is my land..." NOW GET THE HELL OUT! by Taladar · · Score: 2, Funny

    I would suggest (from my perspective from outside the US) to do something so the TV stations broadcast that everyone should shoot a bullet through their own head. That could work to get rid of all the people blindly believing what is told on TV.

  58. The Blame Game by kentrel · · Score: 2, Interesting
    While I think this move by the industry is a step too far, you have to wonder who is really to blame over this. I've said this for a long time. Once the industry made it possible to purchase music legally online, thereby putting a stop to the "convenience" argument from the napster days, that they were going to go after pirates with a vengeance, and that they would win.

    There will always be a music industry, because despite some artists distributing music for free, it will never be the norm, because in our society, while information might be easy to distribute, material goods like equipment, housing, clothes, food, sadly are not, therefore anyone with talent will use that talent to make money. Anyone with a talent for business will use that talented artist to make them money. In short, there will never be this amazing revolutionary new business model that allows people to get free music and all the artists, musicians, producers and studio technicians to make a nice living.

    I'll quickly get to my point. The industry has already made a legal alternative to downloading music. Okay, they were forced to, and that is a good thing. Downloading music is very convenient, and fast. However, the justification for piracy is gone, and any reasonable person will see all that remains is the desire to "get something for nothing". The courts recognise this, the law recognises this, and the government recognises this. As a result, the industry will succeed in using the law against pirates. A good thing I say. However, it has a major downside, which I predicted many years ago.

    Because the basic contention of the industry is correct, i.e. "hey, that's our work, you're not supposed to be getting it without paying for it" is a correct one, they will succeed in any legal cases they bring. The only time they might lose is (as in any other legal matter) if they did something illegal to get there (i.e. monitoring somebody's computer files without permission).

    In the end, this will only result in the law focusing more and more on software and networks like edonkey and bittorrent, and it will not be good for us. They will create stupider and stupider laws that harm aspects of the internet that have nothing to do with the piracy issue, because they don't understand it, and won't.

    The best thing we as geeks could do is discourage piracy, the decent and intelligent among us know its wrong, and those of us from the napster era are smart enough to know that it couldn't last forever. We all know there are always new technological ways to pirate stuff, but those can be made null and void by just a couple of stupid catch-all laws. If we want the RIAA\MPAA to stop trying to influence our wonderful technology we need to stop scumbags abusing our wonderful technology for nefarious purposes...even if we once did it ourselves. The end result is obvious.

  59. Reminds me of... by Cunk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...the age-old childhood strategy of asking for something you're certain of never obtaining in order to make the follow-up request seem more reasonable than it truly is. (i.e. Calvin asking his Mom if he can ride his bike on the roof of the house, getting denied, then following up with the hardly objectionable request for cookies before supper.)

    So what cookies are they eyeing?

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  60. Marihuana Act by TubeSteak · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Actually, it was just mexicans.
    They'd already labeled blacks as "Negro Cocaine Fiends"
      http://www.google.com/search?q="negro+cocaine+fien ds"

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  61. Here's a question for you. . . by NetRAVEN5000 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    If I make an "unapproved" video/audio capture device. . . HOW THE HELL WILL THEY KNOW ABOUT IT? Can they read my mind? Are they willing to break the law by trying to hack into my TiVo and iPod? I mean it's not like I'm dumb enough to tell them about it - and if I'm a pirate I probably won't want anyone else to know how I did it anyway because then I won't be able to make as much money selling cheap copies to people.

    Doesn't it occur to them that the only people this will stop are the people who already don't pirate music and movies because it's illegal?

  62. No difference between Republicans and Democrats. by CyricZ · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Don't try to figure out which is more guilty. They're both just as horrible. Remember, there is very little real difference between Democrats and Republicans today. Indeed, they both share the same interests, and those are not the interests of the majority of American citizens. Thus you get crap like this, which serves the interests of a very, very small handful of people, at the expense of basically everyone else.

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  63. Have a positive outlook by cnerd2025 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "The more you tighten your grip, the more [control] slips through your fingers." -- Princess Leia
    Quite seriously, that's what I think will end up happening. The law must get so tough and so bloated, that someone will challenge the Constitutionality of it, and all of the laws will be struck down. If it gets really bad and people are pissed off enough, Constitutional Amendments can be made, but that'd be really really really pissed off to the nth degree, as n approaches infinity. Based on what these greedy bastards are capable of, that may just happen. Content is content. An idea becomes public when it leaves one's mind. The only "intellectual property" I claim to own is the functioning brain inside of my head. I have the right to do with it what I want, and no one can coerce me or compel me to do with it what I need. Sadly, this property is being stolen, while public property is being plundered. Artists are screwed by big cartels; the real intellectual property is raped while pseudo-property is given rights, so that an elite can benefit and profit. Sounds like an oligarchy to me. As a result, talent isn't valued, consumerism is rampant, and "American culture" is a contradiction.

  64. Trick or Treat! by RoffleTheWaffle · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You know, I'm agitated much too easily nowadays. This bit is really getting my blood pressure up, so, you know what? I'm going to be brief, before I suffer that long awaited anneurism I've been anticipating and die.

    This law, in a nutshell, applies to any device that can convert analog video into digital video. This is the video version of the Audio Home Recording Act (AHRA), with some added goodies. Any analog to digital conversion device - or vice versa, apparently - produced after the law goes into effect will have to be approved under Hollywood's standards by the USPTO. Among these standards are mandated DRM, as well as a nifty little requirement stating that the device must be proprietary and completely closed, thereby making it substantially more difficult to modify. Content converted from an analog format to a digital format will be encased in DRM, and any unprotected output, digital or otherwise, will be constricted heavily. (In other words, ugly as sin.) It mandates highly invasive and restrictive DRM, plain and simple, and everything therein that applies will become law.

    This is about more than piracy, people. This is about killing technology, just like how the AHRA killed DAT. If you're a content producer or marketer, and you control this kind of technology, you control who can compete with you. They're on a technological tirade, and any device which could possibly be used to erode away at their market share will be eliminated. Only approved commercial institutions will have access to unrestricted 'professional' devices. (A device, under this law, becomes 'professional' once it's widely available.) Just as the AHRA stopped DAT dead in its tracks, this is a new control mechanism for DV. While it seems to only apply to devices that could theoretically pirate analog content in a digital format or vice versa, will this affect those who wish to record and publish their own videos? Almost certainly. They wouldn't field a bill like this unless there wasn't an anticompetitive kicker in there for them.

    If these rapaciously greedy, bottom feeding, subhumanly mentally deficient piles of animated scum manage to get this law passed, it'll mean big trouble, not only for consumers, but producers as well. There is absolutely no sense in it whatsoever. None. Zero, zip, zilch, nada. As an aspiring innovator, this is the kind of garbage that causes my hair to stand on end. This is the kind of law that, upon reading it, causes me to enter a state of mind wherein my number one priority is to beat the living shit out of the nearest handy inanimate object of similar size and composition to a human body, so I don't track down these sneering assholes and wail on them instead. Cheesy as it is, The Rock said it best: "Know your role, and shut your mouth." The AA's need to take that statement to heart, sit down, and shut the fuck up.

    What's next? Outlawing any 'improfessional' application of P2P protocols while forcing anyone who owns a streaming radio or video site on the internet to file comprehensive broadcasting reports with the FCC to ensure they're not playing copyrighted content? Or maybe a law that makes it illegal to distribute multimedia via a wireless connection, along with mandated DRM baked into every WiFi card! The possibilities are just endless with these people. Given their track record, I'd highly advise putting anything past them.

  65. Of the modded comments by Trip+Ericson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Of the modded comments, I am surprised that I saw no mention of this!

    Does nobody see that this bill is not INTENDED to pass? It is intended to be too extreme to pass, so they'll tone it down to what they really want, which is just the basic broadcast flag, and it won't seem as extreme as it really is.

  66. Perhaps they should ban boolian algebra textbooks by Rick17JJ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I took several digital electronic classes at a junior college back in the early 1990's. We learned how to use boolian algebra to design the simplest possible circuit that will do what we wanted. We designed and built our own simple digital circuts. We would select a few inexpensive jellybean parts from the back room and then snap them into a breadboard (with no solder) and then watch which LED's would light up to see if we were getting the correct output. In another class we used some old DOS based CAD software for designing our own circuit boards for digital electronics. We were not electronic engineers, we were just ordinary college freshmen at a small junior college. At one time our instructor had taught electronics to black kids at an inner city high school. I bet they could do much of this same stuff. I was really surprised at how easy it was to design and build simple digital circuits with so little training.

    I never went on to get a degree in that field and am not an expert. But even so, I have some minimal basic electonic skills from those classes and what I had to learn about radio circuits to get my general class ham radio licence. With a little bit of effort and study, if I was so inclined, I suspect I could probably modify or create something that could get around their analog hole restrictions. Not that I am advocating that, I am just speculating about what many people whould be able to do. Of course many of us already own various devices which are not crippled. Will the use of those devices be grandfathered in and still be legal?

    Perhaps the RIAA/MPAA should make boolian algebra texbooks illegal. Perhaps they shold also make breadboards illegal. I doubt that they would ever make all the various electronic parts illegal but if they did people would probably start collecting and saving parts from old electronic devices that are being thrown away. When I was in grade school back in the 1960s their was the one geek in the 6th grade who collected resistors, capacitors, diodes, transistors, chokes and other parts from scrap equipment. While eating lunch at school he would proudly show us the latest parts that he had found. Perhaps someday there will be a generation of hardware hackers who collect forbidden parts from old electronic devices and secretly share their secret plans and their banned boolean algebra textbooks. I believe there will always be significant numbers of poeple still using the analog hole no matter what laws the RIAA/MPAA pushes politicians to pass. Hollywood is totally underestimating what the next generation of kids will be able to do. Nearly every generation of young people has found its way of being cool by rebeling against the establishment. Less techie type people will likely be able to quietly buy limited production non-DRM-comlient homemade black market electronic items from friends. The analog hole will never be closed.

  67. Dude, you're WAY behind on your history by achurch · · Score: 3, Informative
    One court case later, SoftMap loses against the publishers and "No Resale" becomes enforceable in Japan.

    For about one year, in Osaka only (it's "Sofmap" BTW). Then the Osaka high court overturned the lower court's ruling. Meanwhile, in Tokyo, the lower court ruled against the publishers, and the high court upheld that ruling. Finally, in 2002, the Supreme Court upheld both high court rulings (Japanese link), reasoning that the doctrine of first sale overrules any distribution rights. So those "no resale" stickers are utterly meaningless now, and nobody pays any attention to them.

  68. WTF? by ajs318 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A simple analogue to digital converter for RGB signals can be made with a dozen 2901 quad comparators and some 74HC chips. This gives you 12 bits {4096 colours}. Sure, it's not much; but add a digital-to-analogue converter, an op-amp and the same circuit again, and you have a 24-bit {2**24 colours} circuit. You can build all this on breadboard. Stick in a 1881 sync separator, and you have a device that will capture the signal straight out of a SCART socket directly. You just need an I/O port wide enough to take it all. If you can still find a mobo with the old-style 16-bit expansion slots, and they can be overclocked to 11MHz instead of the usual 8, so much the easier for you. 32-bit expansion slots are by all standards a 'mare to interface to -- you'd almost think they didn't want us building our own homebrew appliances to plug into our own computers?!

    If you are not constrained by the limitations of breadboard, then you can go for something much less messy. But I think it's important to get the point across that it's possible to build A-to-D and D-to-A from some really low-tech stuff -- well, not exactly bronze age, but certainly within the grasp of anyone who knows the way to their nearest Maplin store.

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