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Continuous Partial Attention

ubercombatwombat writes "While answering my softphone and checking my mail simultaneously I ran across the following article by Steven Levy. In it he writes about a speaker named Linda Stone and something she called "Continuous Partial Attention." I finally had a phrase for the reason I turn off wi-fi, asked people to turn off their cell phones and put away their crackberrys when I am speaking to a group. I suffer from this too. Starting today I am going to do something about it, brb."

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  1. R. Keller at Legoe Bay Wireless, LLC by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Funny

    The author's e-mail address is rkeller@legoebay.com (Legoe Bay Wireless, LLC) which is actually a domain for a wireless internet provider for San Juan Islands near Bellingham, Washington.

    In other news, R. Keller of Legoe Bay communications was fired today after he ran through his office complex preaching the horrors of wireless devices.

    His manager later commented that his "Continuous Partial Attention" campaign wasn't very good for business.

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    My work here is dung.
    1. Re:R. Keller at Legoe Bay Wireless, LLC by m_vand · · Score: 1

      But he made the cover look just like Catcher in the Rye

    2. Re:R. Keller at Legoe Bay Wireless, LLC by ubercombatwombat · · Score: 1

      Thanks, I'll make sure to forward all the spam I get now to you! Incidentally, I was rehired when the organization realized there was no one left to answer the phones.

  2. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2, Funny

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  3. Eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What? Sorry, I wasn't listening.

  4. You know... by suso · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was thinking about this and

    1. Re:You know... by mqj · · Score: 1

      http://www.bash.org/?626249

      <Handy> There are 2 kinds of people in the world.
      <Handy> 1. Those who need closure.
      <Marko> And?
      <DavyP> AND?

  5. Re:Amazing! by PFI_Optix · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now just imagine what would happen if you never opened slashdot!

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  6. too kind a description by yagu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Continuous Partial Attention is way too kind. It begs forgiveness at the promise of continuous, then betrays with partial.

    Anyone who's majored in Mathematics (I did) must spend one semester carefully defining, understanding, and proving continuity. What's described by today's "etiquette" clearly and egregiously violates the notion of continuous, rendering the euphemism "Continous Partial Attention" nothing more than an oxymoron.

    And, it's pretty easy to tell when the person on the other end is giving CPA... in person, vague and inconsistent eye contact while constantly glancing at some screen (be it PDA or computer). Remotely (phone) it's even more annoying.

    I've taken my own path to self-correct.

    • I leave my computer in computer places (office, den, back room) rather than sit mesmerized in front of a laptop screen in the kitchen, avoiding the partial-contact with friends and family.
    • I also turn off my cell phone ANYWHERE where it intrudes and is unnecessary (actually I mostly don't even carry one).
    • I don't fire up my PDA at kids' concerts and recitals to carry on text message and e-mail conversations.

    Of the last ten social events I've attended (movies, parties, recitals, concerts) every single time I saw, heard, and was distracted by someone using some PDA, or other gadget... and not one of those times did it seem appropriate or necessary (not saying there weren't necessary times, but I'm guessing there weren't).

    I've yet to meet anyone important enough they must be connected and engaged every waking moment. The world worked well before all of this, it would be a better place if we turned down the volume on the gadgetry (not that Verizon, SONY, Apple, et. al., will ever allow that to happen on their watch (literally)).

    It doesn't help that we somehow come up with a positive sounding euphemism for it.

    1. Re:too kind a description by the_humeister · · Score: 1

      I've yet to meet anyone important enough they must be connected and engaged every waking moment. The world worked well before all of this, it would be a better place if we turned down the volume on the gadgetry (not that Verizon, SONY, Apple, et. al., will ever allow that to happen on their watch (literally)).

      Santa Claus. Alright, I guess you haven't met him either.

    2. Re:too kind a description by MindStalker · · Score: 1

      Exactly, my cellphone is to keep with in touch of emergencies.. You have a flat tire? Call me. Printers not working? Either wait till I get in the office or leave a txtmsg. People tend to userstand this and respect it. Whats really strange is not so much the people who get called a lot by while they are at social functions are the people who are constantly calling others. Its akin to the I'm bored of this, I'm stepping off to the bar.. So why are you still here?? If you don't want to be here.. Leave..

    3. Re:too kind a description by Cat_Byte · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wait a minute. Sending an email from my phone to my PDA is how I get out of meetings. Don't think it's all bad.

      Oops I just got an email. gotta run.

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    4. Re:too kind a description by siwelwerd · · Score: 2, Funny
      Anyone who's majored in Mathematics (I did) must spend one semester carefully defining, understanding, and proving continuity. What's described by today's "etiquette" clearly and egregiously violates the notion of continuous, rendering the euphemism "Continous Partial Attention" nothing more than an oxymoron.

      Somehow I think an epsilon-delta proof in the middle of the article would trigger a discontinuity in the attention span of the reader.

    5. Re:too kind a description by grahamlee · · Score: 4, Funny

      I can't tell you how disappointed I was when I found out my Dad wasn't real; it was just Santa Claus in a funny suit.

    6. Re:too kind a description by exi1ed0ne · · Score: 4, Funny

      During my last outing a woman answered her cell to tell the caller she was in the middle of a movie and couldn't talk. She had to repeat it several times because the caller couldn't hear her whisper.

      Just confirms my theory that technology accentuates stupid.

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    7. Re:too kind a description by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've proved continuity! What exactly does that mean? Proving classes of functions are continuous? If that's what you mean, you should have said it. So much for rigor...

    8. Re:too kind a description by tm2b · · Score: 1
      I've yet to meet anyone important enough they must be connected and engaged every waking moment.
      Obviously you don't interact much with the medical profession.

      Sorry, sunshine, some people actually do need to be continually accessible. Engaged, no, but connected, yes (for the cellphone example).
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    9. Re:too kind a description by TheCarp · · Score: 4, Interesting

      See I have done that... but its usually more like "Hey this is a bad time, is this important?"

      Tho not at a movie... I am a firm believer in excusing myself and walking away from whatever social situation while answering the phone.... even in a bar, I prefer to walk all the way outside while answering the phone.

      Generally tho... if I am even having a mildly interesting conversation and I have no reason to believe the issue is pressing... the ringer gets silenced.

      The reason I rather do that (and put in on vibrate during movies) is I can look at the caller id, and I let people know if I slienced the ringer and they call immediatly back, I will assume its an emergency...

      mostly because when someone calls me back immediatly after hitting my voice mail, I usually answer like "Hey, whats the emergency?" then hang up on them if it isn't one.

      I dunno... I think cell phones would be alot less annoying if people just exercised a little common courtesy in their use.

      Remember landlines? What ever happend to going into the other room to take a call? or saying things like "can I call you back later"?

      -Steve

      --
      "I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
    10. Re:too kind a description by Ahnteis · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Change the term slightly to understand better:
      continuously partial attention. :)

    11. Re:too kind a description by arkanes · · Score: 1

      Stupid and trivially false. The technology to be continuously connected is barely 20 years old, and yet somehow we managed to survive without our doctors always having pagers. It's *convenient* for them. And it might be more cost effective - when you can page a doctor wherever, you don't have to employ as many of them. But it's hardly essential.

    12. Re:too kind a description by booch · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think an oxymoron is entirely appropriate to describe this problem. The whole point of the technologies is to provide us with continuous access, and yet on the whole, they're providing us with the opposite -- disconnectedness from those around us.

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    13. Re:too kind a description by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does Apple even make a watch? ...seriously...I kill myself.

    14. Re:too kind a description by DoraLives · · Score: 0, Troll
      Sorry, sunshine, some people actually do need to be continually accessible.

      I'm calling bullshit on that. And don't even get me started on members of the medical profession, ok? They're right down there with lawyers, preachers, politicians, and all the rest of those self-important bastards who all live by one set of (selfish) rules, even as they attempt to impose a second set of (sacrificing) rules on everyone else. Take your little gizmo and shove it, cellphone boy, 'cause nobody else really gives a shit.

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    15. Re:too kind a description by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Anyone who's majored in Mathematics (I did) must spend one semester carefully defining, understanding, and proving continuity. What's described by today's "etiquette" clearly and egregiously violates the notion of continuous, rendering the euphemism "Continous Partial Attention" nothing more than an oxymoron.

      Right, because the word "continuous" obviously has no meaning outside of the context of your rigid, formal, mathematical jargon.

    16. Re:too kind a description by Lilkeeney · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Managing to survive? We managed to survive before cars, but my guess is that you have a car. We also managed to survive before antibiotics and vaccines, but my guess is that you don't have a problem using them. Although, I think doctors should carry pagers and cell phones at times that doesn't really matter. Just because we managed to survive without something before is not a reason to not use it now.

    17. Re:too kind a description by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 1

      Anyone who's majored in Mathematics (I did) must spend one semester carefully defining, understanding, and proving continuity. What's described by today's "etiquette" clearly and egregiously violates the notion of continuous, rendering the euphemism "Continous Partial Attention" nothing more than an oxymoron.

      You can have a continuous partial derivative though. But I think what you're getting at is that modern etiquette is not so much discontinuous anymore, as it is completely fractal.

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    18. Re:too kind a description by CGP314 · · Score: 1

      not that Verizon, SONY, Apple, et. al., will ever allow that to happen on their watch (literally)

      I was unaware that all of life took place on the face of a large watch owned by Sony and Apple. Thank you for enlightening me.

      -CGP

    19. Re:too kind a description by Phorion · · Score: 1

      Wait now, "continuous" isn't modifying "attention," it's modifying "partial attention." In other words, it's not saying that there's some kind of continual focus on something, but rather that the state of partial attention is uninterrupted. Kind of like describing an afterlife in hell as "continuous eternal damnation."
      -p

    20. Re:too kind a description by tm2b · · Score: 1

      And many more died, before we had the current technological infrastructure.

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    21. Re:too kind a description by tm2b · · Score: 1

      I'm truly amused at how many people assumed I meant "doctors" and then immediately jumped to "arrogant." One example of the people I meant are "operating room techs," who have to be on call 24x7 during their coverage periods.

      If the guy who knows how to keep the technology running in the operating room doesn't make it to the hospital in time, your chances of survival just went down.

      We have a very complex technological infrastructure supporting our current level of medical care, which did not exist before communications technology. That infrastructure depends upon more kinds of knowledge than just strictly medical.

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    22. Re:too kind a description by jazman_777 · · Score: 1
      And many more died, before we had the current technological infrastructure.

      As the population grows, the number dying grows. More people are dying now than ever before!

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    23. Re:too kind a description by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People saying things like this is exactly why the internet is a bad idea.

    24. Re:too kind a description by stuktongue · · Score: 1

      Yours is an outstanding post: It should be required reading! Thank you. Now, if only folks like you and me had some real influence on the rest of the world. Oh, well.

      Take it easy.

    25. Re:too kind a description by DeadChobi · · Score: 1

      Well, I think the OP meant that the Earth was really designed and built cooperatively by Sony and Apple to be part of the world's largest timepiece.

      Maybe Genesis in the Bible wasnt really about a God doing all the work. Maybe it was just documentation of Sony's greatest work? Just think of all the free advertising!

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    26. Re:too kind a description by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that you are reading the phrase wrong. Try thinking of it as "A continual state of partial attention" and it might make more sense to you.

    27. Re:too kind a description by Big+Nothing · · Score: 1

      "Just confirms my theory that technology accentuates stupid"

      That would be "technology accentuates stupidity"

      I can only hope that you are able to enjoy the irony.

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    28. Re:too kind a description by torokun · · Score: 1

      People have lost their backbone for managing their own lives.

      It's ok not to answer, and call back later.
      It's ok not to be available sometimes.
      It's ok to tell someone you're busy, or have plans, and can't accommodate their last-minute requests.
      It's ok to ask people to let you know about things a bit ahead of time.

    29. Re:too kind a description by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      Yah I know...it irks me so much too.

      What really irks me, is people who refuse to respect that I want some control over my life.

      Shit... I have a friend who used to come over all the fucking time, he never called, and generally i didn't care too much. We have alot of traffic in and out so during alot of the hours our door is unlocked.

      One night I had a girl over, she was a friend but we had gone out once or twice, we were playing some PS2, and the game was about to end, and I figured once we hit the end, I would reach over and start giving her a nice back rub.... ya know ;)... she never complained about my backrubs in the past, and now that we were actually alone...

      Anyway my friend calls...I silence the ringer, he knew who I was hanging out with tonight....

      5 minutes later, there is a knock on my bedroom door. It opens...its him. He sees us sitting on the bed playign playstation games, and says hi, immediatly walks over to the computer and starts playing counterstrike (no he doesn't have his own computer).

      Of course the girl decides to leave about then.... I walked her out, and when I came back I walked up behind him... fuming!

      He turns around "Are you mad dude?"

      We had a talk that night. Boy did we have a talk that night. Gotta set bounderies. Sometimes, I am NOT available damnit!

      -Steve

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      "I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
  7. Not just work... by fosterNutrition · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It isn't just that this kind of thing affects our productivity at work. I find it drastically affects our interpersonal relationships in general. A rather pathetic and depressing example: Whenever I and my girlfriend are talking in person we get along amazingly - we discuss interesting things, and find each other to be amusing and fun. But when I try to talk to her online or on the phone, it's impossible. She is constantly talking to about four other people, and even when she tries to devote more attention to me, it is really not possible, and these conversations usually end with me giving up in frustration, which needless to say is slowly killing our relationship, especially if I try to ask her to shut off the other stuff.

    Apart from this little side rant into bitterness, my point is that we are becoming so inundated with communications, and we are trying so hard to talk and connect with everyone, that it is impossible to talk to anyone. Mobile communications can enhance productivity and relationships if used properly, but God knows they can be a pain.

    1. Re:Not just work... by SEWilco · · Score: 1

      Obviously you need to give her a new messaging tool. One which will cut off other means of communications until she is paying full attention to you. And you'll be able to sell it to marketers, who may be interested in acquiring the full attention of advertising consumers when the only thing the consumer can view is that single ad.

    2. Re:Not just work... by NDPTAL85 · · Score: 1

      Maybe your gf just isn't any good at multitasking. I can carry on multiple conversations at the same time without negelecting any conversation.

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    3. Re:Not just work... by NickFitz · · Score: 1

      You're lucky she pays attention when you're together. A few years ago my then GF and I were in the pub catching up on each other's day; as I was replying to a question she'd asked me, she picked up her cell phone, called a friend and started talking to them about some totally unrelated matter when I was in mid-sentence. Then she wondered why I got pissed off...

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    4. Re:Not just work... by Cat_Byte · · Score: 4, Funny

      I can carry on multiple conversations at the same time without negelecting any conversation.

      Then answer my emails. Do you want this Viagra and penis enlargement stuff or not?

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    5. Re:Not just work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not often I say this, but you need to take a page from Eminem's book:

      "I'll slap you off that barstool
      There goes another lawsuit
      Leave handprints all accross you"

      Since this is Slashdot, I'll make a snap judgement based on a single anecdote of one side of the story: It's time for a grudge fuck and dump, my friend.

    6. Re:Not just work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      But when I try to talk to her online or on the phone, it's impossible. She is constantly talking to about four other people.
      So "your girlfriend" is always on conference calls? It's not a premium rate number by any chance is it? This is slashdot after all. :)
    7. Re:Not just work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bullcrap. A 2003 study carried out by ASU proves that this is compeletely false. Ask those multiple ppl you have been talking to, to find out how false your claim is. Also, its time to take your head outta your own ass.

    8. Re:Not just work... by NickFitz · · Score: 1

      Since this is Slashdot, you should have guessed that she cleared off with some other guy years ago :-)

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    9. Re:Not just work... by SeeMyNuts! · · Score: 1


      Both! Then, we can finally have a tag-team match between King Kong, Godzilla, Stay-Puft, and...

    10. Re:Not just work... by GKevK · · Score: 1
      ...but God knows they can be a pain.
      Actually, ultra-mega-hyper-CPA could pretty much explain the behaviour of God.
    11. Re:Not just work... by JTek · · Score: 1

      What you're describing is just the way online messaging works. People do other things while they talk to you. Get over it. If you had a problem with your girlfriend sitting on the computer and ignoring you while you two were together, I would sympathize. But right now, I'm sympathizing with her for having such a needy boyfriend.

    12. Re:Not just work... by corbettw · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Whenever I and my girlfriend are talking in person we get along amazingly - we discuss interesting things, and find each other to be amusing and fun. But when I try to talk to her online or on the phone, it's impossible.

      It sounds like your girlfriend doesn't consider non-face-to-face meetings as "real". If you're not there, you don't exist. There's nothing inherently wrong with this, lots of people are that way. But if you either can't or won't accept this part of her personality, and she's unwilling or unable to change it, you guys should probably just go your separate ways sooner rather than later. Less heartbreak that way, and maybe you can still be friends (and by "friends", I mean "fuck buddies").

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    13. Re:Not just work... by shmlco · · Score: 1
      "I can carry on multiple conversations at the same time without negelecting any conversation."

      I suggest you ask your friends and co-workers if this is true, or if you just think it is...

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    14. Re:Not just work... by Daedala · · Score: 1

      Dude, it's IM. Why are you expecting to have your relationship needs met through IM? It isn't working; ok, find something else. Phones are also not good; well, don't do that either. I generally dislike them for anything other than scheduling, at least as far as talking with local people goes (it's different for distant people). Try email, or more frequent dates, or something.

      I am actually pretty unusual in the degree of attention I will give to someone in IM, but even I will be running around cleaning or working out or skimming blogs while chatting. If someone asks for my full attention over IM, I will often give it -- to a certain extent. But if they keep asking, I'll get really annoyed. It's too much of a burden on my time. I'm able to chat over IM a lot _because_ it's something I can multitask on. Someone who demands so much of my time, without being willing/able to, say, come over and help with the other stuff I can't do because I'm talking with them, will irritate me a lot.

      Find some other way to get your Quality Time. Most people don't consider IM a vehicle for it, and you will be disappointed.

      [P.S. I'm female. I offer this as a data point, not evidence of authority, because I'm weird, too. Obviously. I'm on /.]

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    15. Re:Not just work... by fosterNutrition · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Okay, this is getting a little ridiculous, so maybe I should clarify things a bit, although I'd be the first to mod this offtopic given half a chance, but since half the thread I started has gone that way, what the hell?

      So here goes. I just thought I should clarify: I was not trying to use a slashdot post as an in-depth vehicle for a discussion of my love-life. I simply referenced in passing a real-life example without giving any depth, background, or context. I agree with the posters who are saying things like "don't expect to conduct your relationship over IM," because, hey, that would be one weird relationship. And I don't expect that. That wasn't my point. My point was that , even though the whole point of IM is to enable conversation, it is impossible to have a real good conversation with someone who is IMing tons of people simultaneously.

      I'm not trying to discuss my girlfriend or how much attention the average man needs from a significant other and can we find an equation to determine how many people we can IM and still meet this and while we're at it let's do some statistical analysis of response times and number of sweet nothings. That's not it, people. My point was just this: sometimes people talk to lots of people and that is not as focused as talking to one person.

    16. Re:Not just work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sometimes people have sex with a lot of other people too.

    17. Re:Not just work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Has it occurred to you that you're interrupting her? Save whatever you have to say until you see her or, if it's really so important that it has to be said before then, send an email or text message so she can read it at a time that's convenient for her. If my boyfriend was getting pissed at me for trying to attend to my job during working hours or my friends and family while I was with them or my driving while I was doing it, I'd hang up on him. It's attitudes like yours - that I should drop whatever I'm doing and attend fully to whichever electronic device most recently made noise at me - that cause this problem in the first place.

    18. Re:Not just work... by Maltheus · · Score: 1

      Same here. Me and my three friends have been hitting on this girl in the office, but she keeps on getting distracted by her boyfriend on the phone. I think I have a shot cause she's always saying her boyfriend is the "frustrated" type who won't leave her alone at the office.

    19. Re:Not just work... by murdocj · · Score: 1
      I can carry on multiple conversations at the same time without negelecting any conversation.

      Correction: you think you can carry on multiple conversations at the ame time without negelecting any conversation. My last company was filled with techno-hotshots who thought they could do that. Turned out they had an attention span of 10 seconds. Everyone at my office finally realized that when we sent email, we couldn't write more than 3 sentences, and the first sentence had to be the critical one. Anything beyond the first paragraph wasn't even noticed.

    20. Re:Not just work... by syousef · · Score: 1

      It's really simple. Refuse to talk to her unless you get her undivided attention. Don't give up in frustration, simply politely tell her you're going now since she's busy. If she complains tell her you're happy to talk on the phone if you have her attention. If she complains point out how rude it is to have to repeat yourself and how frustrated you get. If she gives a damn she'll stop (or at least cut down and try very hard). Really is that simple.

      My fiancee and I met online. We were friends for ages, then one day I asked her if she'd like a phone call. She said yes, and we got off the phone after the first of many 5+ hour conversations. A handful of months later we'd moved in together (happened quicker than it might have otherwise because she got very ill). I find I can have 100% of her attention on the phone if she's not distracted or 0% of her attention in person if we're visiting her family that she rarely sees. However most of the time she makes time for me, so I'm fine.

      It's got nothing to do with technology. It's called common courtesy and if she won't give you that early on, get out now!

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  8. not really new by stoolpigeon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    this has existed since humans had the ability to think about more than one thing at a time. i can be sitting in a room with zero distractions, listening to a presentation and i still drift in and out.
     
    my wife has vivid memories of sitting in church as a child while her dad made to-do lists during the sermon.
     
    it is a valuable skill, being able to give partial attention to multiple inputs. it keeps us alive in many situations. when i worked on a flight deck we called it 'keeping your head on a swivel'. and never getting too locked in to one thing. that was the way to get blown over or some other nastiness.
     
    and i'd be very surprised to find a person who would assert that surfing the web or whatever else they may do at a presentation had no effect on their attention. they know it degrades it, but the point is, most such venues don't warrant the attenders full attention. in the case that it does, they will quickly shift away from the other inputs.

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    1. Re:not really new by booch · · Score: 1

      One point that she makes (I RTFA in Newsweek last night) is that it would be OK in moderation, but the pendulum has swung way too far.

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    2. Re:not really new by DerekLyons · · Score: 1
      this has existed since humans had the ability to think about more than one thing at a time. i can be sitting in a room with zero distractions, listening to a presentation and i still drift in and out.

      my wife has vivid memories of sitting in church as a child while her dad made to-do lists during the sermon.

      it is a valuable skill, being able to give partial attention to multiple inputs. it keeps us alive in many situations. when i worked on a flight deck we called it 'keeping your head on a swivel'. and never getting too locked in to one thing. that was the way to get blown over or some other nastiness.

      What you did on the flight deck, I did a couple of hundred feet below and the flyboys did a couple of thousand feet above both of us is a very different thing. We kept our background attention on multiple things - but the majority of our attention was focused on the task at hand. In the situation describe in TFA, the conference attendees were constantly switching their primary attention between multiple things.
    3. Re:not really new by NateTech · · Score: 1

      Moral of the story: Most sermons are boring.

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  9. Pot meet kettle by TubeSteak · · Score: 0, Redundant
    From the very end of TFA
    But during our conversation, some auditory clues led me to ask her one more question. "Linda," I asked, "are you taking this interview while driving your car?" She admitted that she was. But as long as she didn't have to slam the brakes or dodge a pedestrian, I had her continuous partial attention.
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    o0t!
  10. Right... by mgblst · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have difficulty focusing on one thing when I am only reading a webpage like that one. With hundreds of links on the page, nice big flash adds, and the text taking up a quarter width of the page, and split aroung an add, how can I help it. What a joke. Please don't link to that site again. What were they thinking. Can't I just read an article, without a thousand distractions on the page.

    1. Re:Right... by generic-man · · Score: 5, Funny

      The printable version (pops up "Print" dialog box, which you can safely cancel out of) has no such distractions.

      Meanwhile, I've noticed that many of the people (not you necessarily) who complain loudly about cluttered web pages run Firefox with dozens of extensions and have at least 5 tabs open at any given point not to mention all the ultra-important widgets that tell them exactly what the state of the universe is and do I have mail already. I prefer to keep things simple.

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    2. Re:Right... by PitaBred · · Score: 1

      Yes. But desired, structured information is much easier to filter out than obtrusive information. The plugins and such that firefox has rarely get in the way of actual browsing and information retrieval. I get rid of them if they do. And tabs are a "space", like multiple windows. They each have their own sub-identity that's useful for information organization and reading. Hell, I pop up the replies in a separate tab so I don't lose my place when reading in Slashdot. The way they make these ads make you read around them though, and guess what the actual content is and what's an ad, as well as blinking and being distracting.
      Cute link, btw.

    3. Re:Right... by 4Dmonkey · · Score: 1

      "With hundreds of links on the page, nice big flash adds, and the text taking up a quarter width of the page..........."

      You must be living in a cave. Haven't you heard of -

      -Adblock
      -Flashblock
      -ImgLikeOpera
      -Esc Key

      With these, the web will look like a newly constructed house, clean and empty !!

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    4. Re:Right... by Danny+Rathjens · · Score: 1

      Check out bookmarklets like "Clean Read" to make news articles legible on overcrowded sites: http://www.smokinggun.com/code/bookmarklets.php

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  12. Whoa! Look guys! by Bromskloss · · Score: 5, Funny

    The author's e-mail address is rkeller@legoebay.com

    A whole Ebay just for Lego!

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    1. Re:Whoa! Look guys! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is the plural of lego: lego, legos, legoes, or legolas?
      I've never been able to figure it out...
      -CmdrWacko

    2. Re:Whoa! Look guys! by Ahnteis · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's Lego bricks.

      There is not plural of Lego because it's a brand name. And they kinda insist that you use "Lego" in that manner. Seriously.

    3. Re:Whoa! Look guys! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just like Eggo waffles is a brand name, and their own slogan was (and still might be) "Leggo my Eggos"...

      Now, quiet down and gimme back my legos.

    4. Re:Whoa! Look guys! by SydShamino · · Score: 1
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    5. Re:Whoa! Look guys! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The slogan is actually just "Leggo my Eggo". There's no plural involved.

      Also, because the original post said "a whole eBay for Lego" there's nothing wrong with it. That eBay could provide space to sell for any product by Lego, not just the bricks.

      I've always been of the opinion that it's "Lego Bricks" not "Legos". It's nice to know that I've shared the opinion with Lego all these years.

    6. Re:Whoa! Look guys! by Rary · · Score: 1

      Actually, the slogan was (and is) "L'eggo my Eggo", with the commercial always featuring two people fighting over a single Eggo.

      But even if it had been as you suggested, that would be a situation where the company encourages the pluralization of their brand name. Lego, on the other hand, explicitly asks people not to do this.

      You know you're bored at work when you're debating on Slashdot about the plural form of "Lego". Yikes.

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    7. Re:Whoa! Look guys! by Theatetus · · Score: 1

      Well, it's from the Greek le/og (same root as "logos"), but it's a verb form; it means "I speak" or "I bind together" or "I relate". The plural (we speak etc.) would be "legomen". Meanwhile, the phrase "leggo my eggo" (if spelled "legomai ego") means "I talk to myself". If we were to assume it was a badly-anglicized Greek-based noun, the plural would be either legoi or legoe.

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    8. Re:Whoa! Look guys! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ok Mr. Claven......

      Lego is from Danish, not Greek.... we can all now safely ignore you

    9. Re:Whoa! Look guys! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, just like you can't have Keelexes or Band-aids or Xeroxes

      Problem is the brand name becomes synonymous with the product, turning it into a noun in public's perception.

    10. Re:Whoa! Look guys! by Mattcelt · · Score: 1

      You know you're bored at work when you're debating on Slashdot about the plural form of "Lego".

      Hmm, I think you misspelled "anal". ;-)

    11. Re:Whoa! Look guys! by erlando · · Score: 1

      Ehm.. No.. LEGO is from a contraction of the danish "leg godt" meaning "play well". It has nothing whatsoever to do with Greek.

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  13. ironic by brenddie · · Score: 0
    She is giving an interview about how people do many things at once and how thats "bad" because you cant focus but at the end of TFA
    ... during our conversation, some auditory clues led me to ask her one more question. "Linda," I asked, "are you taking this interview while driving your car?" She admitted that she was. But as long as she didn't have to slam the brakes or dodge a pedestrian, I had her continuous partial attention.
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  14. Continuous Partial Attention by Bromskloss · · Score: 0

    The summary didn't define "Continuous Partial Attention"!

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  15. Notice it in chats by From+A+Far+Away+Land · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I notice myself typing BRB a lot as soon as someone messages me through MSN. Usually it's not that I don't want to talk to them, it's just that I was putting off something else I was going to do, and they've broken me out of what I was currently doing, so before I get attached in a new conversation I can leap over to what I should be doing.

    Some days I just throw myself at one task and get it done, rather than dabbling in everything. Dabbling in everything is fun, and feels like a busy day, but it tends to produce a lot less than a dedicated day [which is usually away from the primary computer(s) I use].

    1. Re:Notice it in chats by From+A+Far+Away+Land · · Score: 1

      What if it's your mode of contact for works sites though?
      Status messages don't keep everyone away, because it's about the same as sending an email, as long as the other person doesn't answer the message as soon as they get it.

      My favourite quote from the article was this:
      "during our conversation, some auditory clues led me to ask her one more question. "Linda," I asked, "are you taking this interview while driving your car?" She admitted that she was. But as long as she didn't have to slam the brakes or dodge a pedestrian, I had her continuous partial attention."

    2. Re:Notice it in chats by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      I dunno....

      If I am busy and have things to get done, I just set my away message to something to that effect, and then don't bother replying to people unless its important.

      -Steve

      --
      "I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
  16. Yes but... by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think that many presenters have forgotten that if they WANT our attention, they must earn it. Keep speeches and presentations SHORT! Anything over 20 minutes is overkill in my opinion unless your doing a demonstration. Ultimately, one can only be bothered by what others do if the let themselves be bothered. Too many times in this day and age people don't simply learn how to mind thier own business. If my PDA or phone is silent while I work with it, then why is it a distraction? Same goes with a laptop. If you want to avoid the picket fenc deal, then I would suggest a change....either get rid of tables at the presentation or design them such that the laptops can be used with out distracting the presenter.

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    Gorkman

    1. Re:Yes but... by laklare · · Score: 1

      I agree with you. People shouldn't presume that their speech or conversation is interesting to you. A lot of times I keep my mind more active by doing something else (planning the rest of my day or writing down notes for some other project) in boring situations.

      The computer gui/desktop needs work, however. I'm constantly getting distracted by IM, email, or browsing the web to look up random unimportant factoids. Also, I get distracted when I see directories that don't pertain to my current task (because I have all kinds of other projects that I'd rather be working on and often start working on them at the wrong times simply because they are accessible to me). I'd like to find a way to self-control my access to tools on the computer in such a way that I can choose to lock out unproductive things when I don't want access to them. Yes, I could do that with willpower, but it's far easier for me if I just make the choice to close my email or IM. Actually, unplugging from the net does wonders, but that's getting more and more unrealistic as I use it even to look up the temperature outside.

      If there were some way that I could put my user shell into "work mode" or "play mode" or set up specific projects and control permissions within that project, it would be helpful. When I'm working an task A, all the open applications that pertain to task B are distractions. Rather than swishing through windows, I'd rather switch between tasks and see all the windows that pertain to that task on that desktop. But also, I want to have literally no access for myself to non-crucial files or applications during these times. I don't want to see anything except the files and applications I need and that I have personally granted myself permission to.

      Maybe i should just make different user accounts for myself?

    2. Re:Yes but... by lpevey · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Imagine if the Lincoln-Douglas debates had been kept to under 20 minutes? Or do you think maybe Douglas did some demonstrations to keep his audience interested? I tend to think the people listening had fewer immediate distractions and longer attention spans.

      (If you think this argument sounds familiar, it is lifted from Neil Postman. circa 1980ish?)

    3. Re:Yes but... by Hatta · · Score: 1

      People shouldn't presume that their speech or conversation is interesting to you.

      If you're not interested, why are you there?

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    4. Re:Yes but... by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 1

      Because you THOUGHT the subject would be intresting and then the presenter drones on and on about this inane thing or another inane thing that may or may not be relevant to the subject at hand. Another reason is that you are required to be there....

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      Gorkman

    5. Re:Yes but... by corbettw · · Score: 1

      Imagine if the Lincoln-Douglas debates had been kept to under 20 minutes? Or do you think maybe Douglas did some demonstrations to keep his audience interested? I tend to think the people listening had fewer immediate distractions and longer attention spans.

      More likely, there just wasn't anything else going on that day. When the highlight of your week is listening to a couple of politicians pontificate on precarious points, your life is just plain pathetic.

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      God invented whiskey so the Irish would not rule the world.
    6. Re:Yes but... by anothy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      wtf? that's the most astounding unintentionally arrogant thing i've heard in weeks. if i had the opportunity to sit through one of Prof. Einstein's lectures, i'm not complaining if he goes over 20 minutes. regardless of whether there's a "demonstration" or any other form of entertainment. same with lots of other people. there's a lot of information in the world, and i don't know most of it. other people, collectively, know a hell of a lot more than i do.
      my time is valuable. but it's not the world's scarcest resource. particularly when i attend a class, or conference, or even in most work meetings, i'm there to learn. some things take more than 20 minutes to do that.

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      i speak for myself and those who like what i say.
    7. Re:Yes but... by dubl-u · · Score: 1

      If my PDA or phone is silent while I work with it, then why is it a distraction?

      Monkey see, monkey do. And we're all primates.

      Another way to look at it: Being part of a live audience makes a good show better. One thing that makes people excited is other people being excited. If you're off in your own little world, you're a dead spot in the audience.

    8. Re:Yes but... by laklare · · Score: 1

      Not even the rich and privileged live in a world without obligation. Sometimes you have to be physically present for things out of necessity or courtesy (you don't walk out in the middle of someone's speech)...it doesn't mean you owe the speaker any favors. You can politely and discretely do your own thing as long as you don't bother everyone around you. If the speaker doesn't like the fact that you're obviously not listening, well then he/she could make it more interesting or just have some humility and accept that not everything that comes out of his/her mouth is worth hearing by everyone in the room.

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  18. There is an answer for this by zappepcs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is an answer for this, well, several answers that partially fix the problem. I'll wager that MS won't write the software needed, nor will any educational institution instruct people on how to use technology.

    Mobile devices, computers, all this technology that serves to distract us is capable of being moderated. That is to say, my phone should only ring when the call is from list X while I have it set this way, so that while I'm attending certain functions, only list X callers will interrupt my activities. I should be able to have many such lists, and using ring tones, know which list the caller is from. The same goes for computers, any activity on the computer that demands attention can be moderated (except /. of course) so that my attention is interrupted not by every little thing, but only those things I'm interested in at that time.

    This limits the distractions, and gives us more time to concentrate on other things, to be more effective at multitasking. This, I believe, was the original reasoning for executives to have an assistant. Now we have PDAs and they are not moderating the interuptions to our lives... not really very good assistants!

    The simple idea of moderating alerts, notifications, emails, and such is just not catching on. In some 10 years or more, I can see computer programs that have some kind of AI built into them to make them really good digital assistants.... till then, pfft, people will still wreck their cars while typing an email, driving, and trying to eat lunch at the same time... There was a word we used to use - Dictation, why don't PDAs allow for dictation of emails?

    Well, so much for technological 'advances'

    1. Re:There is an answer for this by marcosdumay · · Score: 1

      We don't need better IAs to moderate who we answer, we just need to do it (of course, beeter IA leads to beeter moderation). The problem is that it seems that people don't want moderation systems on their communication, so we don't get it.

  19. Redundant Department of Redundancy department by RyoShin · · Score: 4, Funny

    So... she basically gave a name, applying mostly to geeks, for the small amount of ADD that all of us h- ooh, shiny object!

    1. Re:Redundant Department of Redundancy department by Cat_Byte · · Score: 1

      Hey pay attention. You didn't even finish that....hey look a puppy!

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    2. Re:Redundant Department of Redundancy department by clydemaxwell · · Score: 1

      To be fair Cat_byte (suspicious!), puppies are a really good reason to leave slashdot.

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    3. Re:Redundant Department of Redundancy department by SeeMyNuts! · · Score: 1


      Would a shiny puppy be a weapon of mass distraction?

    4. Re:Redundant Department of Redundancy department by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      ooh, shiny object!

      Where?

  20. Wannabe academics are going to suffer badly by Zelph · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've actually been in church when some guy took a cell phone call. My mother was at a funeral when someone was gabbing on the cell in the back. That when CPA is REALLY a problem.
    But my comments, from a former computer science undergrad major that changed his mind in senior year to become a history major is this: I am now working on my PhD in history and I know one thing: Today's grad school students are suffering from this (even the historians!). And either they will ALL suffer from this, or most will and a select few will avoid this problem and become the real experts in their academic study. You cannot become an expert in a particular field of study without TIME and STUDY. Both of those aspects are compromised with CPA.

    1. Re:Wannabe academics are going to suffer badly by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

      I have just one question - Is it really so heard to just turn off the damn gadgets? Technology was made to be used by man, not the other way.

    2. Re:Wannabe academics are going to suffer badly by anothy · · Score: 1
      I've actually been in church when some guy took a cell phone call. My mother was at a funeral when someone was gabbing on the cell in the back. That when CPA is REALLY a problem.
      no, this is when a lack of common courtesy and basic decency is a problem.
      CPA (although i'd not have described it that way before) is crucial to my ability to do my job effectively. then, so is managing it, and being able to decide whether to devote CPA or Real Attention to something. if i'm in a status meeting being given by my boss to the rest of the management here... i pretty much know what he's going to tell them ahead of time, because we've discussed it ahead of time. i use Real Attention for the pre-meeting conversation, and give CPA during the meeting, which doing other background tasks, like checking other status mail. i'd rather be able to do the job using just Real Attention - it would certainly be faster and more efficient, in the long run. context switches aren't free, ever. but in many modern work environments, that's not even an option.
      but when i go see a movie, or a friend in a show, or one of my kids' performances, or to a funeral... that's a different issue. Real Attention there is often nice (but i'm not going to make blanket statements about what people's internal states should be at funerals), but turning off the distractions is just basic human decency to the people around you.
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    3. Re:Wannabe academics are going to suffer badly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'Tis sad, but true. Take any one of these kids who listen to music, play video games, chat online, watch TV, and gawk at the girls dormitory at the same time, and sit them down and tell them to read 20 pages of Kant and summarize accurately what they read. THEY CANNOT DO IT! As someone or other pointed out, "Doing lots of things right is no substitute for doing the right things."

    4. Re:Wannabe academics are going to suffer badly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a perfect example of what I'm talking about. The future problem that I think we'll see is that critical thinking on the whole will decrease, and so those who are earning MA and PhDs will not be up to par with the previous generation. Luckily, those who sit in on review committees and degree review boards have (for the most part) avoided the technology distractions when they were in school, and so they will have the higher standard to expect of the future academics.
       
      But then, before I have to insert foot in mouth, I admit they were probably the pot smoking hippies of the 70s...

  21. Ask yourself... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Ask yourself...

    How many people do you know deserve your full attention?
    How many lecturers (hot air bags) deserve your full attention?
    At best, speech has a disgustingly low information density, why waste time listening to blow hards?

    And if you haven't skipped my message yet...I'm not even part of the IM generation. For some things, even age does not bring patience.

    1. Re:Ask yourself... by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      You are right to question the value of many meetings/lectures. However, if you don't find them valuable enough to warrant your full attention, don't attend.

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    2. Re:Ask yourself... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      How many people do you know deserve your full attention?

      You have no friends and your family hates you, right? When someone is talking to you, no matter how inane, it is somply rude not to pay attention. Period.

      When My phone rings, I apologize to whoever I'm with and make it a short call. Unless it's my girlfriend who's calling. If I'm with her when the phone rings, I apologize and shut off the damned phone.

      If you want to stop being thought of as a rude asshole, you should do the same.

      How many lecturers (hot air bags) deserve your full attention?

      Your boss, for starters, assuming you like money. If you're in school, your teachers, assuming you want a good grade. A presentation like the one in TFA? Screw it, that doesn't need your full attention.

      ...why waste time listening to blow hards?

      Indeed. If the presenter is a blowhard, why are you there in the first place?

      I'm not even part of the IM generation

      There is no such thing. I'm 54, stopped using IM before my kids ever started. Too distracting, little real value. You can email me, if you have to get to me right now I have a cell phone... which is shut off when I'm with my girlfriend. Tough luck, you'll have to wait until I'm done.

      For some things, even age does not bring patience.

      No, for some PEOPLE even age does not bring patience. Grow up.

  22. yabut by slo_learner · · Score: 1

    As others have commented, the distractions are so pervasive that we are losing valuable interpersonal communications. As painful as it was to be stuck in a car for hours on end when I was a kid, I still feel a little sad these days when I drive along listening to my mp3 player while my wife chats on her cell phone and both kids focus on their own dvd players. It's like we're together, but we're not.

    By all means make a todo list during the sermon, but don't stop talking to your kids.

    1. Re:yabut by stoolpigeon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      well yes, you still have to avoid the distractions, but they've always been there. don't feel sad when you're driving. turn of the mp3 player and ask your wife to talk to you instead of someone else.
       
      i remember when walkmans got big and people would just sit in the middle of social situations with headphones on - not nearly as unobtrusive as ipod headphones- and it's dumb and rude. (still is with the ipod).
       
      my point is not that it isn't a problem if you are going through life paying more attention to things other than people (things being your own inner voice or any other distraction) but rather that this is an age old issue being manifested with new technological forms of distraction. it is a lot like taking everything we've always had and adding an 'e' or 'i' to it and acting like it is brand new.

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    2. Re:yabut by clydemaxwell · · Score: 1
      ...adding an 'e' or 'i' to it and acting like it is brand new.
      Yeah, the original pods were much cooler.
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    3. Re:yabut by stoolpigeon · · Score: 1

      maybe not the pods. but the original pod people? yes. much, much cooler.

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  23. Jon Kabat-Zinn and Midfulness by bunratty · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you want to get deeper into total awareness, I suggest looking into Jon Kabat-Zinn's work in mindfulness. He's a Ph.D. and Professor of Medicine emeritus at the University of Massachusetts Medical School who teaches mindfulness as a way of relieving stress. Even when you turn off your cell phone, your mind might still be elsewhere.

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    1. Re:Jon Kabat-Zinn and Midfulness by mc+bean · · Score: 1

      Mindfulness as a buzzword has been cracking me up lately. I went to a group for social anxiety the other month and they were talking about 'bookmarking' as a mindfulness technique among other things.

      Here's a shocker, it's been around for thousands of years. It's called meditation, and you don't even need a Ph.D. to study!

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  24. Good or Bad depends on how you use it by SCHecklerX · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I agree that I fail to see any pressing need for crackberries. While at work in front of my main computer, however, my teammates and I run an IRC server for ourselves. Rather than be interrupted by phone calls, emails, and meetings, we are able to be in constant communication and it enhances our work rather than distract from it. Add to this a wiki for publishing documentation on what we are working on, and our own group is pretty efficient. Now the company as a whole, however, that's a different story.

    1. Re:Good or Bad depends on how you use it by zenhkim · · Score: 1

      Yes, email and IM can be enormously useful for a small department or organization. We had an official electronic mailing list at the college radio station I used to work at, and it did wonders to be able to contact virtually *everyone and anyone* involved with the station, even if you had no idea what their phone numbers were or what their physical location was (on campus, in town, in the county, in the state, etc.) -- I still remember how cool it was when I emailed my transcribed minutes of one of the staff meetings, knowing everyone would have access to it. No need for running printouts or messing with copy machines: just select the file and click it on its way. Definitely a win.

      That said, I have my reservations about IM, as I once had a very annoying experience with a fellow student who was already at a machine when I arrived at the computer lab:

      Me (recognizing classmate): "Hey, dude, I need to ask you--"

      Classmate (tapping on keyboard, eyes glued to monitor): "Get on the chat."

      Me: "But I just need to--"

      Classmate: "Get on the chat."

      Me: "It'll only take a min--"

      Classmate: "Get on the chat."

      Me: "But *I'm right here*."

      Classmate: "Get on the chat."

      Me: "I'M STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO YOU!!"

      Needless to say, I'm not exactly sympathetic with this CPA phenomenon....

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  25. Live Nodes by way0utwest · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As a corporate worker for years, it seemed that this was more prevalent in the upper management areas where directors, VPs, the "Crackberry class" always wanted to know what was happening.

    And like everything else, they succeeded or failed wildly. Some can handle two things at once and some couldn't.

    But more, they never had a life, being too connected. That was one thing I hated and refused to get a Blackberry for that reason. I don't like being "live" on the network all the time. There's a time for it (when I'm on call), but many other times I want to work on something else. We even had a wireless service inside the campus where your desk phone would be forwarded to your cell phone anywhere in the building, which worked great in the data center. But when I'm away from my desk, I usually don't want to be interrupted because I'm doing something, so I never used it.

    I see this at home as well, and as mentioned in the other posts so far. My wife will call me like 4 or 5 times on the way home, for these little snippets, "did you hear?" or "stop and get this" or "what about this?" and it's annoying.

    The mobile phone doesn't mean that we are always available. It's a tool and should be used as a tool when appropriate. Not for every little whim or distraction.

    1. Re:Live Nodes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I see this at home as well, and as mentioned in the other posts so far. My wife will call me like 4 or 5 times on the way home, for these little snippets, "did you hear?" or "stop and get this" or "what about this?" and it's annoying.


      This annoys me to no end as well. I'm one of the "hang the hell up and drive" brigade, and every once in awhile I'll slip up and just answer the phone (as opposed to ignoring it) when driving home. My usual response is "On the road, gotta go".. and then I hang up.

      It pissed her off the first few times but I think she's catching on now.
    2. Re:Live Nodes by SpeedBump0619 · · Score: 1

      The mobile phone doesn't mean that we are always available.

      Please someone put this in big bold letters on a sign in every office and school in the country. When I am in a conversation with you, you have my attention. If I'm expecting a call I'll tell you before we start. Until that conversation is completed I don't let myself be distracted by anything less than an emergency. If my phone rings I silence it, if an email arrives I ignore it. If I keep getting calls or emails over and over I'll beg your pardon and figure out what the big problem is. No matter what I'll get back to you within the minute, even if it is just to appologize and explain why I need to deal with this problem immediately.

      This has always seemed like common coutesy to me, yet so few people do the same. Not three days ago a contractor calls me to his office to get my help with debugging a problem. Two minutes in he gets a call on his mobile, which he immediately takes (he did finish his sentence at least), with no hesitation, consternation, or appology. After listening to three minutes of one side of a conversation on the relative virtues of Windows XP I left. This was not an isolated incident; similar things have happended to me on several occations.

      What is important here is that I give my full attention to one thing at a time. Sometimes I get complaints from people who are trying to call me, but what everyone should understand is that my phone is there for my convenience, not yours.

    3. Re:Live Nodes by DerekLyons · · Score: 1
      The mobile phone doesn't mean that we are always available. It's a tool and should be used as a tool when appropriate. Not for every little whim or distraction.
      Amen. I have friends who are pissed because I don't give them my cell phone number. They don't understand that I have a cell phone so that I can make calls when I want, not to be constantly distracted by what someone else thinks is important.
  26. Projection to the future by master_p · · Score: 5, Funny

    Stardate 46539.5, USS Enterprise NCC 1701 - D...

    Picard: I am going to sleep now...Data, you have the bridge (I hope nothing wakes me up this time).
    Data: ok Sir.

    After 20 minutes:

    Data: Data to Picard.
    Picard: (sleepy) ommm, what is it?
    Data: we are 3 days away from our rendesvous point, sir.
    Picard: good...night.
    Data: yes sir.

    After 5 minutes:

    LaForge : Engineering to Picard.
    Picard: (grrr, this can't go on for ever!) what is it this time Geordi?
    LaForge: I couldn't sleep sir, so I thought to check up on the engines.
    Picard: so? you wake me up for that?
    LaForge: the engines are not performing as they should, sir.
    Picard: ok, run a full diagnostic and notify me.
    LaForge: yes sir.
    Picard: in the morning, that is.
    LaForge: yes sir.

    After 10 minutes:

    LtWorf: Security to Picard.
    Picard: (outraged) what????
    LtWorf: sorry sir, I did not mean to bother you.
    Picard: ok, tell me.
    LtWorf: I think that the teenage people on board are a little behind their physical training schedules. We need to:
    Picard: damn you Worf, don't you have anything else to occupy yourself with? it is 3 am in the morning!
    LtWorf: duty first, sir.
    Picard: GOODNIGHT!

    After 5 minutes:

    Data: Data to Picard.
    Picard: WHAT NOW???
    Data: I have never seen such a beautiful star cluster, sir. I am actually thinking of a poem for it, right now. Do you believe that...

    Picard: THIS IS THE CAPTAIN SPEAKING...ATTENTION ALL CREW MEMBERS. PLEASE SHUT DOWN ALL YOUR COMMUNICATORS AND GO SLEEP! GOD DAMN IT!!!! :-)

    moral of the story: technology and instant communication with anyone, anytime in any place is not always desirable...

    1. Re:Projection to the future by rewinn · · Score: 1

      It's a little-known Phact that holo-technology was originally developed as a sort of virtual answering machine, e.g.

      Wesley: Captain Picard, will you talk to me?

      Holo-Picard: Sure, sonny, what do you want?

      Real Picard: (Snoozes)

    2. Re:Projection to the future by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      And you thought Star Trek communicators were bad? Just wait until video IMs become more widespread. A certain scene from Spaceballs comes to mind...

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    3. Re:Projection to the future by Derling+Whirvish · · Score: 1

      Of course the opposide POV on this is a scene on board the USS Californian on April 14th, 1912 at a little after midnight.

      Crewman1: "Look at that big passenger liner firing rockets over there about 6 miles to the south. Whaddya think that's all about?"

      Crewman2: "Dunno. Maybe they are having a party. Looks like a lot of fun. Rich buggers. All we have to do is stand watch here in the cold."

      Crewman1: "Should we wake Captain Lord and tell him?"

      Crewman2: "For what? Cuz we saw a bunch of party rockets?"

      Crewman1: "That's why we're standing watch. To watch for stuff ya know. I gonna go tell 'im."

      A few minutes later.

      Crewman1: "He told me to go away and tell him in the morning when he wakes."

      After 2:30 am

      Crewman1: "That ship where the party was is now gone. I guess it musta sailed away."

      Crewman2: "Rich bastards, probably asleep in their ornate staterooms by now. I wish I had enough money to live like that instead of being stuck on this rusty piece of junk on a freezing night like this."

  27. Not a technological problem by OzPeter · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I see things like this at the gym where people are reading books/magazines while using the treadmill. I watch them get so involved in their reading that their workout suffers. Yet I am sure they think that they are having a worthwhile workout.

    There is an old chinese saying about living life that sums up a good way to live it:

    Sleep when tired, eat when hungry.

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    1. Re:Not a technological problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Their workout suffers? Props to you for being excited enough about working out that you don't need anything else to help keep you going, but if these people would rather do something else to pass the time while working out, I don't think you should knock them for it.

      If they'd rather run on a treadmill while reading than sit on the couch while reading, I see that as a good thing. Not that it isn't a good idea to relax and read as well, but there is nothing wrong with the former.

      -ac

    2. Re:Not a technological problem by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      I think this is a poor example. They are taking a boring task and adding value to the time. It's a function of the enviroment, not the training, per se. You don't see people doing these things when engaged in the actual activity (cycling/jogging outside).

      Actually, in this case, I would argue that they are adding their exercise to their normal routine, not the other way around. If they were planning on being competitive atheletes, they would probably pay better attention to the training since that would be their first goal. Most of these folks just want to be able to climb a flight of stairs, get into the next smaller dress size, or have sex without being winded.

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    3. Re:Not a technological problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      have sex without being winded.

      I don't care how fit you are, if you aren't winded at the end you weren't doing it right.

  28. Re:Yes but... BUT nothing! by MacBoy · · Score: 4, Insightful
    If my PDA or phone is silent while I work with it, then why is it a distraction?

    The clickity-clickity of a person (or multiple persons) thumbing a reply to every super-urgent e-mail they receive on their crackberries during meetings or presentations is not silent. Nor is someone pecking at a laptop keyboard. Nor is a cellphone vibrate alert. Yes, even that is distracting, not only to the presenter or speaker, but more importantly, to the other people who are there to participate in the meeting, discussion, or presentation.

  29. Teenagers do this even without technology .... by rewinn · · Score: 1

    Parent: "ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME?"

    Teenager: " Uh, yeah, dad. You're right!"

    1. Re:Teenagers do this even without technology .... by rizole · · Score: 1
      Not just teenagers:

      Yes dear......hummm..........uh huh!.......red's nice.......sorry?

  30. Just try it at home by Tchaik · · Score: 1

    Just try it one evening with someone important: close MSN, and don't answer any phone. Maybe I'm just a dinosaur, with no cell and a habit of not answering the phone when in good company. Maybe the fact that I have multiple lovers has something to do with it too!

    1. Re:Just try it at home by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe the fact that I have multiple lovers has something to do with it too!

      Is that what they mean when they say the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing?

    2. Re:Just try it at home by rizole · · Score: 1
      Close MSN? Don't answer any phone? Multiple lovers?

      It's obvious from your UID that you aren't new here but I wonder if you've figured out yet that you are in the wrong place?

  31. We have this already by planetmn · · Score: 1

    my phone should only ring when the call is from list X while I have it set this way, so that while I'm attending certain functions, only list X callers will interrupt my activities. I should be able to have many such lists, and using ring tones, know which list the caller is from.

    My two year old cell phone can do this. I can specify different ringers to different people and answer based on that. Also, there's this little thing called caller-id. In a meeting, if I need to be reachable, my phone is set to vibrate. If it goes off, I look at the caller-id to decide if I should answer or not. I can set it to always vibrate for certain people, or I can set it to never ring for certain people.

    On the computer, set your messaging status to away, or set up email folders for different people and set a notification to inform you when you get an email in that folder, or again, get the notification, and only open the email if it's from specific people.

    -dave

    --
    /., where "Apple and Google provide Iran with nukes" will be refuted with "But Microsoft is a convicted monopolist"
    1. Re:We have this already by lgw · · Score: 1

      Also, there's this little thing called caller-id. In a meeting, if I need to be reachable, my phone is set to vibrate. If it goes off, I look at the caller-id to decide if I should answer or not. I can set it to always vibrate for certain people, or I can set it to never ring for certain people.

      This is a constant hassl ein my workplace. People get interrupted 8 times in ameeting, and distract everyone else by checkeng their caller ID. This is especially annoying when someone at their desk gets an IM from someone, which they look at thn decide to ignore, then the same person calls their desk, which they look at then decide to ignore, then the same person calls their cell phone. Who do you *think* is calling?

      --
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  32. Attention! by springbox · · Score: 1

    If you're not planning to do one thing right, then be prepared to do multiple things with a notable degree of mediocrity! And I'm being totally serious here. (Also note how many people complain about their distaste for multifunction devices.)

  33. Re:Amazing! by Lord_Slepnir · · Score: 1

    Too late

  34. I can see it now... by ft+silent · · Score: 1

    So how long until some reject decides this is a disease and demands compensation?

    Some loser is going to sue the boss on the grounds that their work-environment has cuased this menacing, life robbing, depression afflicting, makes-you-bald, and worst of all sex-drive-killing disease known as C.P.A. to fall upon them and ruin their life. Becuase the boss made them carry a walky-talky cell phone with both Yahoo AND AIM.

    I agree with the article in that people are getting too easily distracted, but the solution is a matter of restraint, respect, and discipline...Just turn it off or down or dont answer unless you are in an appropriate situation. Live communications=1st priority.

  35. The Off Switch by SeeMyNuts! · · Score: 2, Insightful


    Turning things off is perhaps the single most important activity people can do, today, especially when children are around. Turn the TV off, turn the radio off, close the web browser, and realize that silence is quite enjoyable at times. Toddlers' heads aren't spinning off trying to "multi task" at TV and toys, and parents' heads aren't crunching trying to watch a show while pretending to give their children attention. The same goes for co-workers in the office. People are offended when they can't get undivided attention. I can't stand it when I'm trying to talk to someone, the phone rings, and I might as well leave. Nothing important gets done.

    I wonder how productivity is measured, because it doesn't seem to be increasing. At least, people are being stretched until productivity simply cannot increase, without some sort of bionic implants.

  36. = Continuous Total Screwups! by Tsu+Dho+Nimh · · Score: 1
    I've been in training sessions where 7 of the 12 "participants" were answering email instead of listening to the instructor, and most of them came to me after the training because they didn't know how to do what he was explaining.

    I've been in project meetings where I meticulously explained the plan, only to be whacked later because someone who was typing and reading stuff on her laptop screen as I explained what I planned to do realized she didn't know what I was doing ... and had to report on the project to her manager.

  37. An alternate view/experience by david.emery · · Score: 1

    In my personal case, most of the time what's going on is not sufficient to keep my attention. So I've found that I actually respond better if I'm able to do priority-based multitasking, i.e. listen when there's something interesting being said, but have something else to do otherwise.

    I guess if I were an "old lady", I could knit. Failing that, if I have web connectivity I'll surf around the net.

    Do others have a similar perspective? Or am I just weird? :-)

              dave

  38. Re:Amazing! by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, had I not opened slashdot, I wouldn't have seen this story informing me of how I can be more productive. So in essence, slashdot had made me more productive!

    --
    This guy's the limit!
  39. eh sorry... by JaJ_D · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...missed what the article was covering as I was reading /., doing a build, doing two code releases, responding to emails, answering the phone and listening to music...

    What was the general gist again

    :-]

    Jaj

  40. Re:Amazing! by bubblesonx · · Score: 2, Funny

    Funny how that works, isn't it? ;) If I ever really want to get any work done, I've got to hide myself away in a corner of the library, while leaving my laptop at home. Too much effort!

  41. As someone who suffers from this... by Churla · · Score: 1

    I feel I can pretty confidently talk on it. Like a poster above my wife and I can have wonderful conversations but if it's on the phone then there's always something else vying for my attention, and it ends up distracting me. This same thing happens when talking to friends as well, and co-workers.

    To help overcome this I have done a few things.
    A) Calling me on my cel phone doesn't mean I will answer, some phone numbers don't even ring on my cel, others have rings to tell me if it's someone who probably has urgent needs. This let's me filter out my mother with her latest e-mail not sending crisis. Most cel phones now will let you classify contacts and only ring for certain classes of contacts and maybe vibrate or not ring at all for others.
    B) The cel phone does not come into the bedroom or bathroom.
    C) Explain to my wife that if I'm looking at one thing then probably she won't have my attention until she gets it BEFORE asking me something.
    D) Disabled all notification sounds on my IM clients, and have the IM clients on a separate screen from the one I'm working on. I check them from time to time, but if someone needs me that urgently they know how to get in touch more directly than IM.
    E) Never carried a Crackberry, never will.

    Does this make me some type of "disconnected Luddite of the instant access age"??

    --
    I'm a fiscal conservative, it's a pity we don't have a political party anymore
    1. Re:As someone who suffers from this... by HellYeahAutomaton · · Score: 1
      Like a poster above my wife and I can have wonderful conversations but if it's on the phone then there's always something else vying for my attention, and it ends up distracting me.

      So there is something other than the poster above your wife that distracts you too? Why not just get a poster of your wife too?

    2. Re:As someone who suffers from this... by surprise_audit · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't say you're a disconnected Luddite. I'll happily let the answering machine pick up the house phone for me. I work at night and sleep during the day, so the phone doesn't ring in the bedroom anyway. I keep my cellphone by the bed, but not even my boss has *that* number, just my wife and kids. I figure if I'm desperately needed at work, eventually they'll think to get my son to call me (he works for the same company), or someone will make the 15min trip to my house to bang on the front door.

  42. important? by nozpamming · · Score: 1

    It is my understanding that the more important one is, the less one wants to communicate. If people need them, they will do their best to find these people. And people need important people all the time it seems. I'm pretty sure presidents, popular star & very young children get all the attention they want (perhaps the last group is the exception, although there might not be that much difference...).

    Bottom line: all those people you see communicating do it because they feel they want to or have to. Very important it probably isn't, and neither are these over-attention seekers.

  43. PA systems in workplaces - Chap. My. Ass. by schwerve · · Score: 1

    Continuous Partial Attention? Try maintaining any attention when you have this blared out from overhead every three minutes:

    Im Selfimportant, you have a call parked on 666. Im Selfimportant, 666 please.

    I'm a "knowledge worker." I don't appreciate a voice interrupting my thoughts all the sodding time. I'm scatterbrained enough as it is, but I feel like Harrison Bergeron some days. It's usually a call for someone in Sales or Support anyway; why the fuck not forward the caller to their bloody cell phone, instead of blasting the grating voice of the receptionist to everyone in the building?

  44. Come out with your hands up! by brouski · · Score: 2, Funny

    We have you partially surrounded!

    --
    Proud member of the American Non Sequitur Society. We might not make much sense, but boy do we love pizza!
    1. Re:Come out with your hands up! by Captain+DaFt · · Score: 1

      Heh-heh, reminds me of the old joke:

      He got away sir!
      How? we had all the exits covered.
      He left through an entrance, sir!

      (I'll be quiet now)

      --
      The U.S. really needs an English to Wisdom dictionary.
  45. Re:The Article Mentions Micro$oft user tests by Cros13 · · Score: 1

    agreed.

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    --cros13
  46. Re:Amazing! by TheCarp · · Score: 2

    and I just realised that my productivity has no real impact on my salary. I could sit here and flick my fingers and still make the same money.... ::flick:: ::flick:: ::flick:: ...
    There is the sound of increasing shareholder value.

    -Steve
    (but my good friends call me wally)

    --
    "I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
  47. Maybe the Professor Bans Laptop article yesterday by drhamad · · Score: 1

    That article yesterday about a Professor banning laptops from her classroom (although I don't know why that's major news - most of my undergrad classes wouldn't allow them, though all my law school courses do) seems to fit perfectly under this. Maybe that prof was on to something. Personally I use phones (txt msging), laptops and PDA's all the time, while doing other things - including my laptop in class - and I know for sure that I am not paying full attention to any one thing - even if I'm only using my laptop to take notes.

    --
    -Daniel
  48. In the mean time, get priorities right. by twitter · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I'll wager that MS won't write the software needed, nor will any educational institution instruct people on how to use technology .... my phone should only ring when the call is from list X while I have it set this way, so that while I'm attending certain functions, only list X callers will interrupt my activities.

    If M$ made it, would you trust it to work? M$ "Smart" phones have not been very smart.

    In the mean time, I'm keeping the thing on. My duty to my pregnant wife and four year old girl are more important to me than what you think of my manners. Nokia has a ring tone or two that don't sound like a cell phone and are not nearly as obtrusive as the typical cell phone spam song defaults. The "meeting mode" works too, providing an ascending ring as does the choice of vibrate instead of ring. Doctors, first responders and many other people have even greater needs for constant contact than I do.

    Most people should view other's loyalty to their friends and family as more important than most things in life and tolerate a few interruptions. People who talk about "crackberries" and think their particular talk is more important than God don't have their priorties in order.

    Meetings are nice now and then, but electronic communications are making them less useful and less productive. If the Linux kernel, GNU, Gnome, KDE, can all be built online without regular meetings, what task can't be done this way?

    --

    Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.

    1. Re:In the mean time, get priorities right. by Brad+Mace · · Score: 1
      My duty to my pregnant wife and four year old girl are more important to me than what you think of my manners.

      Ah, so you're the only person in the world with a spouse, kids, or friends? You don't sound self-absorbed at all. Who exactly do you think manners are for if we're excluding everyone that meets those criteria? And quit acting like you'd be unable to care for your family without all these gadgets. None of our parents had them.

  49. Hey that's from an actual TNG episode! by tiltowait · · Score: 1

    I don't know if that was intentional, unconscious, or not, but the script above is very similar to the opening scene of A Fistful of Datas, except they all bug Picard in person.

    Some stuff is just too important to put down in writing, after all. I have several coworkers who practice the advice of AG Eliot Spitzer (speaking facetiously about criminal behavior, but if the shoe fits...) and "Never write when you can talk. Never talk when you can nod. And never put anything in an e-mail."

  50. Is Slashdot turning into Kuro5hin? by Threni · · Score: 1

    Please, no more blog-crap like this!

    > I finally had a phrase for the reason I turn off wi-fi, asked people to turn off
    > their cell phones and put away their crackberrys when I am speaking to a group.

    Some random blogger quoting an author, who is in turn quoting some unimportant MS employee who's come up with a typically naff corporate buzzword for a well known concept is neither "News for nerds" nor is it "stuff that matters".

    When I was at school, it was called "not paying attention". Why does it have to be given a faux-medical/scientific term now?

    1. Re:Is Slashdot turning into Kuro5hin? by Stanistani · · Score: 1

      Thus a new TLA -
      NPA - Not Paying Attention...

      In convo:
      person A> blah blah blah
      person B> * Oh, sorry - NPA...

    2. Re:Is Slashdot turning into Kuro5hin? by Toba82 · · Score: 1

      Slashdot is cmdrtaco's blog. Just thought you might have forgotten that.

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    3. Re:Is Slashdot turning into Kuro5hin? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So long as it doesn't turn into HuSi...

  51. ugh ... Author is a moron. by twitter · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Wow, the author is a bigger ludite than I though. I should have guessed it from M$NBC.

    During the presentations the faces of at least half the crowd were lit with the spooky reflection of the laptops open before them. Those without computers would periodically bow their heads to the palmtop shrine of the BlackBerry. Every speaker was competing with the distractions of e-mail, instant messaging, Web surfing, online bill paying, blogging and an Internet chat "back channel" where conferencees supplied snarky commentary on the speakers. ... Your world turns into a never-ending cocktail party where you're always looking over your virtual shoulder for a better conversation partner.

    What a small minded slam. How does he know that people are not googling for the author's articles or hitting wikipedia for terms they don't understand? Even the chatting with your peers can be useful and informative. It sure beats the hell out of whispering back and forth. People want to share and your friends have more pertinent information than anyone else. All this "spooky" talk about betrayal and badmouthing misses all the good things you can do with the tech at hand.

    If I want to tune out of your speech, I'll leave in your face and go to a presentation that holds my interest. You should not be afraid of my cell phone or Zaurus. It's my time and you should respect my use of it, so long as I don't bother people sitting around me.

    --

    Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.

  52. Re:ironic... and dangerous by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

    I wouldn't have called it this before reading the article, but "Continuous Partial Attention" is exactly why talking on a cell phone while driving is as dangerous as being at 0.08 blood alcohol and driving, and why "hands free" headsets don't actually help much.

    Driving requires a lot of attention (barring interstates in Nebraska), and someone talking to you on the phone is themselves expecting a lot of your attention and isn't aware of the driving situation to know why you aren't giving it to them. As soon as you stop paying attention to deal with something on the road, it's "Hello? Hello? You there?" as I know from the times I've done it, which is why I refuse to talk while driving. This is also why talking to a passenger isn't dangerous, because when the semi-truck swerves into your lane they see it too and know that you have more important things to focus on.

    So it isn't just ironic that she'd be splitting her attention between driving and her electronic communication device -- it's just plain irresponsible, and from someone who has every reason to know better.

    --

    The enemies of Democracy are
  53. Learn to meditate instead by FishandChips · · Score: 1

    Focusing on one thing at a time is a skill that takes lot of practice, imho. Generally in the West we are not brought up to do that - just look at the trouble most folks have with meditation even for a few minutes. Focusing just on listening is hard, too, and taking notes is often a way of not listening. IME, many of the laptop/crackberry/mobile toting characters in an audience are not showing Continuous Partial Attention so much as trying to assert their dominance in the pecking order. If they are carrying all this kit and need to be so connected, well then they must be big, alpha cheeses. Usually they aren't and the ones to watch are those concentrating and not even taking notes. If I make a habit of lugging all this stuff around, then I have become my own slave-driver and show, too, that I cannot organize my own day. That is really not alpha at all.

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    1. Re:Learn to meditate instead by Maltheus · · Score: 1

      the ones to watch are those concentrating and not even taking notes

      Shouldn't the "ones to watch" be the ones that the "ones to watch" are concentrating on?

  54. Right indeed. by twitter · · Score: 1
    With hundreds of links on the page, nice big flash adds, and the text taking up a quarter width of the page, and split aroung an add, how can I help it.

    Yeah, I run Konqueror with flash turned off to stop that. Anyting that actually needs something fancy is a right click, open with firefox button push away. Garbage like M$NBC loads much faster, but still needs a tab of it's own to hide the ugly.

    Imagine the life of a M$IE user who can't easily turn off flash, has multiple adsservers installed and problems with popups to compliment all the intended spam. Unbearable browsing.

    --

    Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.

    1. Re:Right indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Imagine the life of a M$IE user who can't easily turn off flash, has multiple adsservers installed and problems with popups to compliment all the intended spam. Unbearable browsing.

      Yes, my life is hell. I have a little button on the IE toolbar that turns Flash on and off on demand and I'm running Proxomitron so I see no ads whatsoever. Ease compared to installing three different addins for Firefox, so I'd say I'm pretty much there.

      "M$NBC", that's absolutely hilarious. Come back when you grow up, mmkay.

  55. Once a year I attend SIGGRAPH by Expert+Determination · · Score: 2, Insightful
    That's the biggest US computer graphics conference. While people present their papers the halls are usually full of people surfing the web or reading or whatever.

    BUT...it's worth thinking about why people do this. I'm as guilty as anyone. The fact is - most paper presentations are incredibly boring. A certain percentage of them are given by people whose first language isn't English and are agony to listen to. Many are simply readings of the paper itself which is of no value to anyone. You have to ask what the purpose of a paper presentation actually is - as far as I can make out it's primary function is as a reward to the paper author, not a means of technical communication. In fact there are a whole bunch of colluding parties here: the conference organisers gain prestige from the presentation of good papers, the authors gain prestige by being able to claim they spoke at SIGGRAPH, and the audience get to have fun for a few days while claiming they were working. Everyone gains.

    In fact, the way I use SIGGRAPH is this: I take my laptop with me and use the time away from my desk, in the conference hall, experimenting with speculative algorithms without the pressure of having to deliver anything. Just being in the presence of people talking about algorithms can be incredibly inspiring, even if you ignore the details of what they have to say. This has paid off for me quite well a couple of times in my life. And I'll read the papers later in the conference proceedings if something seems interesting.

    So I plan to continue my continuous partial attention at SIGGRAPH every year.

    --
    "The White House is not an intelligence-gathering agency," -- Scott McClellan, Whitehouse spokesman.
    1. Re:Once a year I attend SIGGRAPH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for the heads up. I was thinking of attending, but if it's
      full of ill-mannered arseholes I don't think I'll bother.

  56. It took almost a dozen times... by tab13tab13 · · Score: 1

    for me to start reading the article. I kept getting interupted. Sheesh!!!

  57. stop telling me what to do by rtphokie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I hate it when presenters or other meeting runners do this. Dont judge me guilty before I've committed a crime. This also implies that what they have to say is going to keep my attention 100% of the time, which it never does. Why cant I read an email or two while you fumble with your slides, make sure everyone on the video conference can hear you, take a drink of water, and whatever else takes up the first 10 minutes of every meeting?

    If someone is distracting, have the courage call them out. This premptive strike is cowardly and more unprofessional than the behavoir it is trying to prevent.

    1. Re:stop telling me what to do by thebatlab · · Score: 1

      [quote]Why cant I read an email or two while you fumble with your slides, make sure everyone on the video conference can hear you, take a drink of water, and whatever else takes up the first 10 minutes of every meeting?[/quote]

      Because it's rude to the person running the meeting and everyone else there. Is 10 minutes of waiting at the start of the meeing, possibly chatting with the other folks there, going to kill you? And if the presenter fumbles for their slides, wait patiently and pretend it never happened. Don't immediately turn to your computer and start checking email.

    2. Re:stop telling me what to do by OldeTimeGeek · · Score: 1
      When I'm running a meeting and someone decides it's more important to take a call or answer an email, I stop the meeting and stare at them.

      Works every time.

    3. Re:stop telling me what to do by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 1

      When I'm running a meeting and someone decides it's more important to take a call or answer an email, I stop the meeting and stare at them.
      Works every time.


      Yes, it does a great job of making you look like a retentive nutcase. Which is what you are.

      I never assume that my presentation will hold the attention of 100% of the audience 100% of the time. I understand that it's entirely possible that:

      - The audience member has something more important to attend to (I know this first hand as a Linux sysadmin - sometimes you have to jump on things)
      - The audience member already understands or knows that part of the presentation

      If a lot of people seem to be inattentive, guess what? It's my fault. As a presenter, it is your job to make your presentation interesting and valuable enough to hold the attention of the audience.

    4. Re:stop telling me what to do by OldeTimeGeek · · Score: 1
      Ha,ha. Funny. Thanks for the instant diagnosis, doctor.

      Have you had to manage a large enteprise network before? I work with the teams that support our infrastructure of over 700 servers and 10,000 nodes, so I am keenly aware that they problably have important things to do. I hold meetings not for my gratification, but because there are so many groups involved with troubleshooting problems, the most efficient way to get everybody on the same wavelength is to have a short meeting.

      Believe me, as a veteran of over 25 years and literally thousands of meetings, I hate meetings more than just about everybody else in the room. The only useful way that I've found to coordinate effort between groups is to have short meetings of 15 minutes or less. In order to make this happen, I ask the participants not to answer their phones or pagers (they can look at them, but only answer them if absolutely necessary) while we're in the meeting. Rather than calling someone to task, which is what the previous post suggested, looking at them is the gentlest way of reminding them that we are under time pressure and need to finish quickly.

      Now if you're talking about large meetings, which I assume you are, I just ignore them unless someone else in the room objects. Usually the problem takes care of itself.

    5. Re:stop telling me what to do by torokun · · Score: 1

      Your comment misses the point. It's not that you checked a couple of emails and then mostly paid attention.

      The problem is that on the whole, people end up not really paying attention to a speaker, and distract others from paying attention.

      Not to mention the fact that, I think, a speaker has a RIGHT to demand people's good faith effort to pay attention, or else why should they want to do all the preparation they've done and go to the effort of giving a talk or lecture? Doing other things tells the speaker that you don't respect their efforts enough to give them your attention. I would much rather simply ask those people to leave the talk.

    6. Re:stop telling me what to do by Scroatzilla · · Score: 1

      >> If someone is distracting, have the courage call them out. This premptive strike is cowardly and more unprofessional than the behavoir it is trying to prevent.

      It's pathetic that these presenters HAVE to say something when just a shred of common courtesy should just be second nature TO A PROFESSIONAL. Turn all of your gadgets off, pay attention, or get out. It's as simple as that. You're solution of "have the courage call them out" is a very unprofessional suggestion.

  58. I thought assistants... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought assistants were for sex? Damn, there go my dreams.

  59. This seems to be a common problem... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...today, and in fact, there are numerous websites, blogs and podcasts focusing on solving the issues brought by "always on", "continous partial attention" etc.

    At the center of attentions stands a certain book, Getting Things Done by David Allen. (Slashdot review) This book does not deal with this particular issue, however, it provides a framework for managing time in the age of continous partial attention.

    One site I would particularly recommend as a starting point is 43Folders. It's a blog, a community and a useful portal to the part of the Web focused on this issue. If podcasts are your thing, there is a funny yet educational speech available from BayCHI held by 43Folder's founder you might want to listen to - if it sounds familiar, it would probably be a good idea to check out the book.

    1. Re:This seems to be a common problem... by ZorroXXX · · Score: 1
      I have bought and read the Getting things Done book and while I find the concepts very appealing, I have trouble getting it working (maybe because I have not put enough effort into it).

      Does anyone have experience and recommendations of tools? I have been thinking that I want to start low-tech by using pen and paper before I dive into a specialized tool, but maybe it is time to reconsider that.

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  60. From the Article by emseabrown · · Score: 2, Funny

    From the Article

    ...she explained to me when I called her a few days later. "Constantly being accessible makes you inaccessible." All so true. But during our conversation, some auditory clues led me to ask her one more question. "Linda," I asked, "are you taking this interview while driving your car?" She admitted that she was...

    I really can't think of a better punchline than that.

  61. Re:Yes but... BUT nothing! by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 1

    Hmm...I have never heard a blackberry make clicky click noises unless I was right beside or in front of the user. Same thing goes with the vibe of a crackberry. I have heard the cliky clik of a laptop keybaord, but honestly if that bothers you when your presenting or being presented to, then go lock yourself in a dark room. People are just too damn sensative today.

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  62. Wrong partial? by iamlucky13 · · Score: 1

    I understood the phrase "continuous partial" to imply that attention was never fully taken away (continuous), but it wasn't at 100%, either (partial). I admit, I only minored in math, but I'm pretty sure it's possible for a variable to...umm...vary, without a discontinuity. Sorry, I'm being unnecessarily sarcastic, but you get the point. Attention isn't really a binary concept. In fact, completely ignoring something is pretty tough to do. I know I'm frequenty guilty of CPA, like when the annoying guy who never shuts up drops by, I'm really only paying attention to keywords that guide when and how I respond.

    "blah blah blah American Idol blah blah blah blah so what did you think?"
    "Didn't watch it."

    Ironcially, one of those guys dropped by my desk while I was typing this post, but he was much more on task than usual...whereas I'm wasting time on Slashdot.

  63. One step to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Continues Partial Attention is just a step before true multitasking in people just as how computer operating systems started.

  64. For further references.... by iamlucky13 · · Score: 1

    For more information on Continuous Partial Attention, see yesterday's 1200 comment long discussion on laptops in the classroom.

    We've definitely talked about this many times before. I guess this is more special though because she came up with a clever name for it.

  65. I work in medical research by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    Actually, I'm the UW ADRC Data Manager now (Alzheimers, PD, many others), was doing Bioinformatics work for Malaria structures before.

    All of our meetings, except video conferences, journal meetings (present papers from medical/research journals and study in depth), and presentations - all of the rest - are tech free.

    It's because you get distracted from honing in on the subject at hand.

    Sure, we bring nice glossy charts of the gene structure layout, where the SNPs are, various printed research papers that are relevent, but we go offline during the meetings.

    If you have to do something online, you do it after the meeting, with those involved, but otherwise it just distracts.

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  66. On O'Reilly's Podcast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apparently, the talk Linda Stone did at ETech and that was the basis of this article is one she's done at several conferences. An episode of O'Reilly's Podcast has eight minutes of edited highlights.

  67. Re:Amazing! by BrettJB · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, try that excuse with your boss when he/she walks in and catchs you on /. Let me know if they buy the increased productivity BS...

    Mine was so pissed the last time, he threatened to pull my network connection and strangle me with it if he ever caught me on /. aga$#%{^&}@ 8^\|^@[%!&%$.NO CARRIER

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  68. Brain Cognition Psychology Attention.. ugh whateve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Interesting blog with related topics.... http://www.omnibrain.org/

  69. Real academics won't suffer badly by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    I work at a research university that wins tons of awards, the University of Washington, and in practice our meetings are filled with people with M.D., Ph.D., M.Sc., or at the least B.Sc. and in a post-grad program.

    Our meetings are pretty much tech-free. Noone surfs on crackberries, or if they do, it's silent. If they get an urgent message, they leave the room. Always. Phones are silent (flash/vibrate).

    And since we get tons of Gates and other money, I don't think we're doing it wrong.

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  70. Are you enabling? by Goldenhawk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > I've been in project meetings where I meticulously explained the plan, only to
    > be whacked later because someone who was typing and reading stuff on her
    > laptop screen as I explained what I planned to do realized she didn't know
    > what I was doing ... and had to report on the project to her manager.

    Are you "enabling" the situation? In psychology terms, an "enabler" is someone who not only permits an undesireable situation, but often enables it to continue by fixing the resulting problems.

    Seems to me that the best lesson we can teach this kind of person is to point out exactly why they missed the information, ask them to pay attention to the discussion next time, and let them take the heat with their manager, rather than bailing them out and essentially teaching them that what they did was not only accepted, but had no negative consequences and this could be repeated in the future.

    Adults may not be small children, but sometimes they need to be treated like one if they can't get the point any other way.

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    1. Re:Are you enabling? by Tsu+Dho+Nimh · · Score: 1
      No, I do not "enable".

      I have been known to stop a presentation or class and ask the inattentive one/s to please pay attention because the information is important to them. Or give the persons asking for a private session (because I paid attention and they didn't) a blank stare and ask "you were in the class, weren't you?" and suggest that they retake the class if the concepts were too advanced for them to handle in one session.

      I have also been told I'm "not a team player" for not covering up someone else's lapses of attention.

  71. Do we need another syndrome? by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 1

    I think there is one syndrome that is being overlooked here, the need for attention starved people to start labelling something as a syndrome to get 15 minutes of fame. I call it RCS (Repetitive Crap Syndrome).

    I am not only a member of the RCS Anonymous help group, I am its president.

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  72. Maybe JIRC is a better term by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 1
    There are a lot of folks who are part of the Just Inattentive Rude Crowd.

    But I only have informal studies to back that claim.

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  73. They can insist all they want, but... by spike2131 · · Score: 1

    We must all fight back against corporate ownership of the English language. Screw the trademark, they will always be legos to me.

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    1. Re:They can insist all they want, but... by G-funk · · Score: 1

      Corporate ownership of english? "Legos" isn't english, it's (busted) American. Even when I was 4 years old, there was always one dork at kindy who calls his lego "legos", and it's always the kid who lives in a trailer.

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    2. Re:They can insist all they want, but... by DroppedPacket · · Score: 1

      But Lego isn't English, it's Danish!

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    3. Re:They can insist all they want, but... by DeadChobi · · Score: 1

      Love the sig. But leave my Legos alone!

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    4. Re:They can insist all they want, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I've got hundreds of Lego" just sounds terrible, sorry.

      Either Legos or Lego pieces.

      Legos are fine.

    5. Re:They can insist all they want, but... by jonaskoelker · · Score: 1

      Let's have a look at what is done in its country of origin (Denmark, for the uninitiated): we say "lego brick" or "lego piece" (I'm not sure which translation is most accurate), and "lego bricks" or "lego pieces".

      You might say "some lego" (as in a collection of lego pieces), just as you might say "some pot" (as in a collection of some--most often weight--unit of pot)--it's uncountable.

      "Lego", when said on its own, refers to the company that produces those wonderful toys.

      "Legos"? That's like saying "Linuxes" (or "Linucies", or "Linuces", or "Linuxen", or ...) when referring to multiple identical installations (and not referring to what it really means: multiple distros; ex: "I don't care which of the linucies you like, be it Mandrake, or SuSE, or Debian GNU/, or...").

    6. Re:They can insist all they want, but... by wed128 · · Score: 1

      ...mmmmmmm...Danish....

  74. Re:Amazing! by charleste · · Score: 1

    I find that in a given day I get about 15 minutes of actual work done...

  75. I do that! by nrlightfoot · · Score: 1

    I do that sometimes, in fact I'm playing online poker right now.

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  76. Re:Amazing! by itchy92 · · Score: 1

    - Do you realize what this means?

    - (Shocked looked) Hey! You're getting paid for that!

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  77. Obligatory Simpsons Quote by fuzznutz · · Score: 1
    There is not plural of Lego because it's a brand name. And they kinda insist that you use "Lego" in that manner. Seriously.
    And hillbillies want to be called "sons of the soil", but that ain't gonna happen either.
  78. runners listening to ipod also bad by chocolatetrumpet · · Score: 1

    I notice the same thing - runners listening to the ipod or radio. They are so busy listening that they don't even realize what a lousy workout they're getting.

    They should learn to sit on the couch and listen to that stuff, and then leave the running for itself. /not

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  79. Analogy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I always think a computer analogy is apropriate for this kind of discussion. Multitasking is, by and large, an illusion. Sure, our brains are capable of a fair amount of parallel processing, but it happens at an unconscious level for the most part. To put it in terms geeks can understand, our brains are like CPU with a limited number of specialized functional units. We only have a limited ability to parallelize tasks that don't compete for resources. As soon as tasks compete for resources we get stuck in a task switching mode. Conscious attention is the most limited resource of all. We can only practically pay conscious attention to one thing at a time. And switching conscious attention is a relatively expensive operation. It's something you want to avoid as much as possible, just like you want to avoid kernel-user mode switching as much as possible in an OS. Some people have better hardware (better able to task switch) than others, but there will always be a penalty for dividing your attention. For me, the worst I find is with competing sensory input. Sure, I can sort of take in all senses at once, but I can only really focus fully on one sense at a time. For instance, listening and reading aren't tasks I can carry on simultaneously with any degree of effectiveness. It's the main reason I get away from the computer and all other visual distractions (like TV) if I'm trying to have a conversation with someone. It's also the reason I will never ever ever talk on a cell phone while driving.

  80. Right after the McObesity Suit by smose · · Score: 1

    Naw, we're not ready for CPA to be a disease yet. Now that suing tobacco has gone out of style, we have to finish the suits against Nabisco and McDonald's for making us all fat. To jump ahead into CPA suits while the obesity suits are still on -- that would be too much like, well, CPA.

    Once our cancerous, fat asses get done with the McObesity suits, we can sue to get our attention spans back. We'll need a better acronym, though, something more like Seasonal Affected Disorder (SAD), more commonly known as the "winter blahs" or "cabin fever". Maybe something like Technological Attention Reduction Disorder (TARD).

  81. Insist? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Certainly. We'll just change the natural pluralization rules of the English language to satisfy their corporate marketing department.

    Or, I'll just call 'em legos like I always have. Why should I be concerned what a corporation thinks about my language usage?

    1. Re:Insist? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Certainly. We'll just change the natural pluralization rules of the English language to satisfy their corporate marketing department.

      And how exactly does pluralizing "Lego brick" into "Lego bricks" change the rules of the language?

      Lego is a company. Lego sells toy construction blocks. These are named, aptly enough, "Lego bricks". If you shopped at a place called "Bob's Lumber", would you say "Hey, hand me some Bobs" when you wanted a couple of 2x4s? I wouldn't.

    2. Re:Insist? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      one lego.

      many legos.

      that is how it is.

    3. Re:Insist? by theTerribleRobbo · · Score: 1

      > Certainly. We'll just change the natural pluralization rules of the English
      > language to satisfy their corporate marketing department.

      What's the plural of sheep, then?

    4. Re:Insist? by Crunchie+Frog · · Score: 2, Funny
      What's the plural of sheep, then?

      Harem ? No, that's the collective noun isn't it. I give up.

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    5. Re:Insist? by ampathee · · Score: 1

      No.
      One lego brick.
      Some lego.

      THAT is how it is.

      Do you say "sheeps"? "Legos" sounds just as dorky as that to me.

    6. Re:Insist? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't give a crap what their trademark covers. As far as I'm concerned, it's generic by now.

      I.E. It's just a lego. Lowercase 'l', used as a noun, not a proper noun or an adjective.

      I'm sorry guys, but if it requires that many people to constantly "correct" us, it's already generic and you're hosed.

  82. blackberry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My blackberry is the first thing I grab when confronted by some idiot
    talking out his ass.....It just so happens that it occurs at nearly
    every presentation or meeting I attend.

  83. Re:ironic... and dangerous by lmatheson · · Score: 1

    In my life, Zen practice figures prominently. Zen is largely about learning to pay attention to here-and-now, so that we're living our actual life (one moment at a time) rather than being buffetted about as we chase one thought after another, or one craving after the next, or being constantly pulled in different directions by all the demands of our lives.
    From that perspective, this issue is very serious: to go to the grave without having learned to actually be satisfied with the simple day-to-day routines of living is to die without really having lived. Normally we think of being "fully alive" as somehow being able to pack in as much of the things we like into each day, but that isn't it at all. Being fully alive means being fully engaged with whatever ordinary content life serves up at each moment.
    When we try to multitask beyond what is really needed at the moment, we're not only depriving others of our availability, we're depriving ourselves of the opportunity to be truly alive in this moment (which is, ultimately, the only time we can actually live, no?)

  84. Re:Amazing! by SillySnake · · Score: 1

    Slashdot -> Increased Productivity!? Inconceivable!

  85. Umberto Eco probably loves Slashdot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... though he might not admit it!

    Here is what Eco had to say in a witty pastische back in the 1980's, which happily has since been translated into English:

    "Anyone who flaunts a portable phone as a symbol of power is, on the contrary, announcing to all and sundry his desperate, subaltern position, in which he is obliged to snap to attention, even when making love, if the CEO happens to telephone; he has to pursue creditors day and night to keep his head above water; and he is persecuted by the bank, even at his daughter's First Holy Communion, because of an overdraft. The fact that he uses, ostentatiously, his cellular is proof that he doesn't know these things, and it is the confirmation of his social banishment, beyond appeal."

    More proof that CEO's don't read Eco!

  86. More accurate name? by Rabid+Cougar · · Score: 1

    You're right, insomuch that "continuous" is not the right term from a mathematical viewpoint. As a fellow /.er who majored in Mathematics, I propose we rename it Discrete Partial Attention. As anyone who has been on the receiving end of a "conversation" (perhaps about the cute outfits she's seen on sale at some store and how much each one costs with great details on how the garments are constructed) with a significant female other can attest to, there are distinct moments where you are actually pay full attention. These occur when she asks, "Are you listening to me? What did I just say? You aren't listening, are you? You don't really love me. If you really loved me you would actually listen to me instead of wasting all your time on that stupid dot-slash website."

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  87. The world thanks you. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Need help?

  88. Something tells me... by Coppit · · Score: 1

    Your account just got suspended.

    1. Re:Something tells me... by PFI_Optix · · Score: 1

      You can't honestly think they'd actu*NO CARRIER*

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  89. No one believed me before, but... by schlick · · Score: 1

    It was those damn tamaguchies or how ever you spell it. Those stupid little electonic "pets"... They functioned as training devices to teach people to be slaves to their electronics. SLAVES I TELL YOU!!!

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  90. Re:Yes but... BUT nothing!... unless! by vertinox · · Score: 1

    Yes, even that is distracting, not only to the presenter or speaker, but more importantly, to the other people who are there to participate in the meeting, discussion, or presentation.

    What if that crackberry message or cell phone call is from a multi-million dollar client or to let you know a mission critical production server is down?

    That boring presentation on sales figures for 2007 isn't very important now is it... In the cut throat dog eat dog of business world, you cannot have but interruptions. Things change minute by minute and if you every minute you miss that information you could be loosing buttloads of money for the company.

    (Truth be told... I don't like to work in such high stress environments, but I know of them and have supported people via contract for them)

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  91. I need clarification by ChreodeRiot · · Score: 1

    Your world turns into a never-ending cocktail party where you're always looking over your virtual shoulder for a better conversation partner.

    Turns into?

  92. Re:ironic... and dangerous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks. That was an interesting counterpoint to all the otherwise silly comments.

  93. Continuous distraction by pileated · · Score: 1

    and not smart enough to realize it, or how condescending it is to those you're paying "attention" to.

    it's very easy to poke fun at this but it would be interesting to see someone forecast its effect in business. i only say that because business seems to rule and if it finds that it's no longer making money by betting on the need for ever more distraction then things might change. for instance the video sales pitch in the produce mentioned in another thread. at some point there will be a rebellion against this.

    i've rebelled for quite awhile because it's just so stupid . i'd rather be engaged with the world and everything it it than always half-distracted. but that's just me. at some point i hope there will be a lot more people like me. and at some point business will say "uh, oh. people don't want this continual distraction. now we need to sell protective shields, or meditation chambers, or wirefree zones in cities where people can walk without any type of electronic interference."

    time will tell. let's just hope it happens quickly.

  94. Thinking is hard by tlynch001 · · Score: 0

    Quieting your monkey mind is hard and takes practice.

  95. Hey kid... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Why don't you get a real job and then come back and tell us "how it is", OK? Judging by the way you write you've probably never worked at a company with more than 6 employees.

    There's a time and place for everything, even listening to presentations and attending meetings.

    1. Re:Hey kid... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, Willy here has really never held a real job at all.

  96. married men by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We married men have been using this skill for years, does this mean I have give her my full attention now?

  97. Stone & MS virtual world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FTA:
    Stone first noticed the syndrome a decade ago when she was creating a product for Microsoft that let people interact in a "virtual world."

    Someone please look up the credits in Microsoft Bob. Thank you.

  98. Re:Yes but... BUT nothing!... unless! by MacBoy · · Score: 1

    It really isn't even so much the sound that the devices make that is distracting. No matter what the person next to you or in front of you is doing, if it isn't watching the presentation or participating in the discussion but rather fidgitting with some gadget, it is somehow always more interesting (i.e. distracting) than that presentation/discussion. It's human nature to be aware of one's surroundings. And when you are surrounded by crackberry addicts, that can be very distracting!

    If you really must respond that an e-mail, or take a call, then you will know ahead of time of the possibility of a very important and urgent e-mail or call. In that case, you should prepare for that possibility by sitting at the back of the room, near the door. This makes for a quick and easy escape should your need to take the call (which of course, you would never do in the room, right?), and even if you need to peck out a quick e-mail reply, you can do it literally behind everyone else's backs, so that you are less distracting.

    The problem is that most of the people who carry these things (and have a habit of using them in these situations) feel important, and like to sit in a prominent part of the room, near the front or near the speaker, etc. And that just compounds the distraction!

  99. Bricklink.com by Pearson · · Score: 1

    This is a great resource for buying Lego pieces or even kits. It used to be called BrickBay but eBay felt they had some hold over the word 'bay'... /rolleyes

    I was really shocked when I first discovered that site. The idea that you could buy any piece you wanted for just a few pennies was like a geek dream come true!

    You can search here to find detailed kit inventories like this one for all but the newest kits. And the Price Guide is a great help too, so you can see what the part has sold for in the past 6 months. Of course the Search Page is the heart of it, allowing you to search for the part you want (once you know its part number) and allows you to restrict searches to sellers in your own country to keep shipping costs down.

    All in all, it's a great site. I also love that I don't have to worry about submitting a winning (sniping) bid, or wait days for an auction to end.

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