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Guitar Hero II Announced

Gamespot reports on the official announcement of an encore to the extremely popular Guitar Hero title from Harmonix. From the article: "RedOctane today confirmed the band was indeed getting back together, as it announced that Guitar Hero II would arrive on the PlayStation 2 this November. While the song list hasn't been announced yet, the publisher confirmed that there would be more than 55 tracks in dire need of shredding. There's also a multiplayer co-op mode that will let players collaborate, each playing lead, rhythm, or bass guitar portions." IGN is running an interview with the gents behind the game, giving us heads up on their plans for the sequel. Rock on!

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  1. Dude by yootje · · Score: 0, Troll

    Just buy the most sucky acoustic guitar there is. For less money you have more fun with a real guitar!

    1. Re:Dude by punkr0x · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Yeah, and why buy GTA when you could just go out and shoot a cop!

    2. Re:Dude by yootje · · Score: 1

      That comparison makes absolutely no sense. :/

    3. Re:Dude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm, I got it.

    4. Re:Dude by Tezkah · · Score: 1

      playing guitar is equivalent to hurting people?

      playing guitar will put you in jail?

      I guess I didn't get it.

    5. Re:Dude by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 1

      Playing a game is not like real life?

      Guitar Hero:guitar::GTA:shooting a cop

      If you want to learn the guitar, you get a guitar. If you want to shoot a cop, you get a gun.
      If instead you want to have fun, you get Guitar Hero or GTA!

    6. Re:Dude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i can see the attraction of things like harvest moon and animal crossing, emulating real life in a fun way

      but guitar hero is emulating uh guitar playing which is fun on its own

      its like if there was a game that let you pretend you were posting on slashdot

    7. Re:Dude by Phil+Resch · · Score: 1

      No. Guitar Hero is not about playing a guitar. It is about being a GUITAR HERO. It isn't about making your own music, or adding your own personal touch to music you love. It is about putting yourself in the shoes of rock stars, on the stage, in front of a crowd, rocking out. And the gameplay is built around that concept.

      Don't misunderstand me. Mastering Guitar Hero probably isn't as personally fulfilling as mastering a real guitar. To be able to creating something--music, sculpture, code, or anything else--is something truly wonderful. But that's not what the game is about, and people shouldn't pretend that it is.

    8. Re:Dude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well shit, why buy Gran Turismo then? It's like making a game that let you pretend you were driving a car. Why don't you just go pick yourself up a Mazda 787B and hop on the interstate?

      Ask yourself this: if there's no point, why are they making a sequel? And, if you put the same amount of time into playing a real guitar as you did playing Guitar Hero, do you really think you'd be that good? And if you're not that good, is it any fun to begin with? Particularly if you have no interest in playing a guitar and have no musical inclination to begin with.

      Perhaps Guitar Hero isn't supposed to simulate playing a guitar... Perhaps there's more to it? You tell me, you've played it.

      Or haven't you?

    9. Re:Dude by punkr0x · · Score: 1

      Yes, sorry, bad example. A better one would be: why does anyone play Madden 'XX, when they could go outside and play football? It's much simpler to play a cool song on guitar hero than it is to pick up a guitar, play a few mangled chords until your fingers hurt, and get all frustrated that you don't sound like Zakk Wylde.

    10. Re:Dude by TheJediGeek · · Score: 0
      "Ask yourself this: if there's no point, why are they making a sequel?"

      I've been wondering that for awhile

    11. Re:Dude by ClamIAm · · Score: 1

      Guitar Hero is a game. A guitar is an instrument.

    12. Re:Dude by MC+Negro · · Score: 2, Insightful
      just buy the most sucky acoustic guitar there is. For less money you have more fun with a real guitar!
      No. You would waste your money, develop a bad ear, and most likely pick up some bad habits that cater to the instruments poor quality. As an added bonus, you still probably won't be able to play "Crossroads" or "Texas Flood" or any of the other licensed tracks due to frustration with the quality of the instrument and time it takes to develop the methods required for songs like those.

      It always puzzles me when fellow "guitarists" act sort of snobbish towards Guitar Hero. These same people have no problem playing games like NBA Street and Burnout, but suddenly, when the game is about guitar, the utmost realism is demanded. Dude, being a good guitarist, like being a good race car driver or sports player, is hard and requires time, skill and motivation, and often times this is very frustrating and intimidating to newcomers. I've not spent a lot of time in demographic research, but something tells me most people wouldn't find that a fun idea for a game.

      I'm a guitarist, and I like Guitar Hero. It's obviously very unrealistic, but I don't want that kind of realism in my games. I already spend many of my waking hours in that kind of realism, and if I ever want to spend more time in it, I can walk over, pick up one of my guitars and dive right back in. But if I want some instant gratification, entertaining, DDR-style gameplay with a novelty twist (say, a plastic guitar), Guitar Hero fits the bill.
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    13. Re:Dude by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Guitar Hero made me realize that I will never, ever be able to play the guitar. Not because I'm bad at the game (I'm not great, but I can pull 5 stars on about 85% of Medium), but because after an hour or two, the 20+ years of qwerty catches up with me and my hands feel like they're going to fall off for eight hours.

    14. Re:Dude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh yeah, cool, my nephew plays that game. Sweet B-Day present idea, thanks dude!

    15. Re:Dude by FryingDutchman · · Score: 1

      The matter of a 5-fretted multi-colored playskool guitar being a 'simulation' is obviously won by the true Guitar advocates, but the matter as to why they're so upset that hordes of people are picking this game up and [heart]ing it for hours on end in their basement, often much to the chegrin of their significant other, is another matter entirely. Is it jealousy that drives a talented 'musician' (as much a musician as a guy who 'can totally play Dave Matthew's when I'm not this drunk' can be) to criticize a hobbyist for playing something that emulates their pasttime but with much more fervor? Where are the outraged NFL players protesting the pick-up flag football game on the south lawn? Or the picket lines of Orcs demanding equal representation in online WoW forums? So the issue at hand is whether or not the SG Controller is realistic - it makes no claims to be and neither do it's thousands of fans. The issue is the fact that Guitarists feel somehow slighted by the fact that people would rather play a dumbed-down more enjoyable experience rather than spend months practicing to get 2/3 of the intro lick to "higher ground" without lyrics, bass, or percussion accompaniment. Sorry 'Slash' but in today's micro-wave instant coffee and non-dairy-creamer world there's just no more place for the dorm room acoustic next to the venerable green, red, yellow, blue, and orange buttons...I'll say a poem for you someday.

  2. Guitar Hero 2 announced by DesireCampbell · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, but where's my accordion hero?

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    1. Re:Guitar Hero 2 announced by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 2, Funny

      Here...

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    2. Re:Guitar Hero 2 announced by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was the joke, Ted!

  3. Couple of points... by DorkusMasterus · · Score: 2, Informative

    *Guitar Hero (the first one) is quite possibly the best and most fun game I've played in quite some time (meaning at least a decade). The truth is, I haven't seen anyone pick it up, give it a good try, and then want to put it down. It's one of those addicting games that makes you try harder and harder with each song.

    *I play guitar, and sure it's much more "skill-building" to play a real guitar, and this experience really is nothing like playing for real, but it's still a heck of a fun time.

    *The only thing I would reccomend for the second incarnation is to get as many "actual" performers to do the songs, or at least the vocals, as possible. It's the only drawback to the original, and would REALLY make the 2nd game so much cooler.

    1. Re:Couple of points... by robogymnast · · Score: 1

      *The only thing I would reccomend for the second incarnation is to get as many "actual" performers to do the songs, or at least the vocals, as possible. It's the only drawback to the original, and would REALLY make the 2nd game so much cooler.

      I actually enjoyed the fact that many of the songs were covers, I thought that it made it feel more like you were part of your own cover band, rather than playing one song each for 30 different bands. Either way though I haven't been this excited for a new game in a loooong time.

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  4. The Things I Want... by th1ckasabr1ck · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I would be really awesome to be able to buy a "classic rock pack" or a "grunge rock pack" and get a bunch of songs that I'll probably like. The song list for Guitar Hero was the best I've seen in a music game, but still it would be nice to be able to focus the type of music I'm listening and playing on my personal preferences.

    Secondly it would be nice to have a higher quality guitar. That thing looked and felt totally cheap, it was like a kid's toy. I would have felt like I was rocking a lot harder if the guitar was bigger and had taken itself a little more seriously.

    Van Halen - How you can have a game called Guitar Hero and not have a Van Halen track is beyond my scope.

    Still a cool game though.

    1. Re:The Things I Want... by Cocoronixx · · Score: 0
      Secondly it would be nice to have a higher quality guitar. That thing looked and felt totally cheap, it was like a kid's toy. I would have felt like I was rocking a lot harder if the guitar was bigger and had taken itself a little more seriously.

      That could be due to the fact that it is a kids toy? The thing costs about 70$USD... Spring for a little more and you can probably get your hands on a decent used guitar and amp.
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    2. Re:The Things I Want... by Have+Blue · · Score: 2, Informative

      There are already people who have extracted the electronics from the Guitar Hero controller and installed them in a real guitar body.

      As for Van Halen, it was probably a combination of licensing fees and musician apathy. From the interview it looks like this time around the former will be less of a problem and the latter is definitely no longer a factor.

    3. Re:The Things I Want... by Pootenheimer · · Score: 2, Informative

      You're not the only one who thought Van Halen was missing. Or AC/DC, or several others. You can't blame RedOctane for not trying - these bands were asked, they just declined. Hopefully there'll be more of these bands showing up for GH2.

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    4. Re:The Things I Want... by yurnotsoeviltwin · · Score: 1

      I bought my first electric guitar brand new for $70. Full size, three single coil pickups, floating bridge w/ trem, strat style, solidbody. Sure it sounded like crap, but my point is that for $70 you can do a LOT better than a kid's toy.

      Funny story though - I sold the thing a year and a half later in the classified ads for $130.

    5. Re:The Things I Want... by llevity · · Score: 1

      But you sold it. So obviously it wasn't money well spent, except as an investment that you were able to profit from.

      I own Guitar Hero, bought a copy for a friend, and bought a second guitar controller for my wife, and we played it constantly for the first month, and still go back and play it at least once a week. I'd consider that money well spent.

      I also own an accoustic guitar and two electrics, so I do play the real thing. And yes, the toy game version is still fun.

    6. Re:The Things I Want... by DdJ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The main think I want is a tournament ladder, for parties.

      I mean, we've got two controllers tops, right? What if six people want to play against each other?

      Yeah, people can mill about and yell out "I have winsies" and stuff, but IMHO it would be nice if the game could say "okay, the next match will be Kevin against Milicent", and keep track of scores and so forth, and end up telling you who won.

    7. Re:The Things I Want... by DdJ · · Score: 1

      I forgot to mention the other thing I want.

      I want to be able to plug in this alongside of this, using both in the same game.

      And it'd be real nice if you could also use this, and set it up as a bank of effects pedals, with one of 'em kicking off "rock out" mode.

      It might just be better for all concerned if they leave this peripheral out for now, though.

    8. Re:The Things I Want... by jammitch! · · Score: 1
      This is the reason there aren't drum games in the US.

      Tangentially, buy Beatmania.

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    9. Re:The Things I Want... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That bit about not being money well spent sounds a bit wrong to me. Most beginning guitar players start out with a cheap guitar to learn on in case they decide it's not for them and so they can learn to take care of their instrument before they get their $2000 axe.

      Now don't get me wrong, I hate car analogies, especially when used with Macs but I'm going to use one anyways. It's pretty much like how teenagers get a crappy car for their first car instead of the Porsche they might rather have. You still get plenty of use out of it but eventually you get to a point where you need to move on.

      But you should know this, so really the existence of your post just confuses me.

    10. Re:The Things I Want... by Allison+Geode · · Score: 1

      dude, it would be nice if any game still did that. i remember that in the 16 bit era, every other fighting game came with some kind of tournament mode. the only recent fighting game i've played that came with one (that I can think of off-hand) is dragonball z budokai 3 (which I recently dug out of the bargain bin, so its still fresh in my memory.) I have no idea why this isn't a demanded-feature: i'd organize parties based around the latest fighting game if that were the case!

    11. Re:The Things I Want... by Allison+Geode · · Score: 1

      yes! and they need to let you use the eyetoy to direct the music video!

      I can see it now already: a hip-hop themed sequel, where you get to use the guncon to shoot the rapper!

    12. Re:The Things I Want... by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Argh, that thread makes me want to claw my eyes out.

      Seriously, were those goofballs just pulling their favorite bands out of thier asses without regard to whether there was actually any good guitar involved?!

      Hell, I loved Tool (at least for the first two albums), but they ain't exactly thrashing.

    13. Re:The Things I Want... by damiam · · Score: 1
      But you sold it. So obviously it wasn't money well spent

      Why is that obvious? Maybe the guitar had served its purpose as a cheap beginner's instrument and he/she decided to move up to a better one.

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    14. Re:The Things I Want... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, your guitar didn't have a controller board inside, or a tilt sensor, or an analog whammy bar, and it didn't come with a game.

      That's like saying there's no point in buying a karaoke machine when you can get a really nice microphone for the same price.

    15. Re:The Things I Want... by MS-06FZ · · Score: 1

      Secondly it would be nice to have a higher quality guitar. That thing looked and felt totally cheap, it was like a kid's toy. I would have felt like I was rocking a lot harder if the guitar was bigger and had taken itself a little more seriously.

      I agree, but there's one issue with that...

      That is, that at the end of the day, this is still just a game, and you don't necessarily want the controller being bulkier than it has to be, for storage reasons and so on.

      At the very least I think the original Guitar Hero SG controller was a good idea for the initial release of the game, when the game's success was not assured. Now that the game has been out a while and is fairly popular, maybe it's possible that Red Octane would make a heftier model...

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    16. Re:The Things I Want... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure... not that you could even play any Van Halen songs with that dorky controller.

      There's just no way you could play 'Panama', or 'Hang 'em High', or 'Hot For Teacher' on that thing. The rhythms are far too sophisticated, there are abundant single-note fills, and forget even trying to play the solo. Get a real guitar instead.

  5. Games, games game. Doesn't anyone have a job? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1, Funny

    Today's Slashdot articles have been at least 60% "Games". Am I the only one left with a daytime job?

  6. Re:Games, games game. Doesn't anyone have a job? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We all took last week's article on the best job in America being video game developers seriously. Now slashdot is no longer 'news for nerd', but 'news for gaming nerds'. Did you get a copy of that memo?

  7. Re:Games, games game. Doesn't anyone have a job? by tont0r · · Score: 1

    "Am I the only one left with a daytime job?"

    i wish. :(.

  8. Re:Games, games game. Doesn't anyone have a job? by llamalicious · · Score: 1

    Yes, now shut up I have to get back to Molten Core.

  9. It's about time! by the_humeister · · Score: 1

    Guitar hero is about the only game my fiance plays (yes, she plays video games). What's so great about it is that, especially for two player, we're fairly evenly matched from the onset. Hopefully they make a non-failing quick play option.

    1. Re:It's about time! by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 1

      (yes, she plays video games)

      Does she have a sister?

    2. Re:It's about time! by the_humeister · · Score: 1

      Yes, but she's married and also plays video games.

    3. Re:It's about time! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are they both fat?

    4. Re:It's about time! by the_humeister · · Score: 1

      Ha, no. But they are phat.

  10. Hopefully they'll have stuff from the 90's by Prien715 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My only complaint with Guitar Hero is that the song list is devoted half to the 80's, a little from the 70's and still a little less from 2000-present with one song from the 90's (by Helmet). If they're going to keep the same band (who did phenomenal work), they shouldn't do the same stuff. Why do we need more hair band metal when a good portion of the original IS hair band metal?

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    1. Re:Hopefully they'll have stuff from the 90's by The+Other+White+Boy · · Score: 1

      by my count, out of the 30 licensed songs in the game, six were from the 80s..

    2. Re:Hopefully they'll have stuff from the 90's by Keebler71 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      My only complaint with Guitar Hero is that the song list is devoted half to the 80's, a little from the 70's and still a little less from 2000-present with one song from the 90's (by Helmet). If they're going to keep the same band (who did phenomenal work), they shouldn't do the same stuff. Why do we need more hair band metal when a good portion of the original IS hair band metal?

      That's because the game is called Guitar Hero... not Grunge Frontman Hero. Through the 70's and 80's the guitarists were the cult sensations. As far as I can tell, beginning with Kurt Cobain and Eddie Vedder (yes, I know they both play guitar), the emphasis turned more toward the vocalist.

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  11. Re:Games, games game. Doesn't anyone have a job? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Zonk is yet to master the Slashdot "schedule stories to appear later" feature, and therefore we always get a dump of all the game stories that accumulated over the weekend on Monday.

    Seriously.

  12. RedOctane, concentrate on Guitar Hero AND ITG2!!! by Travelsonic · · Score: 1

    I wish that, as much as I like Guitar Hero, Red Octane pressured Roxor to release In the Groove 2 (as they are their distributor) as well as focus on their own games. Some people are dying to play Bloodrush Expert at home and not in an arcade. ~_~

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  13. No game for keyboards? by Cthefuture · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why doesn't someone make a game like this for piano/keyboard playing?

    You know, hook up a MIDI keyboard and go to town. That would be an awesome teaching tool because you learn on the real thing. Much more fun than learning to play the traditional way because it's really boring when you are just starting playing any instrument (which generally lasts many months if not years).

    A high tech Guitar Hero would be nice too. I mean something that uses a real (electric) guitar and determines how you are playing by sound and/or the pickups.

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    1. Re:No game for keyboards? by Blackwulf · · Score: 1
      Konami has had just the game you seek for years in Japan, however I don't see it getting an American release anytime soon. You may be able to find it in some arcades that specialize in Japanese imports, however.

      Keyboardmania on Wikipedia.

    2. Re:No game for keyboards? by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 1

      In the 1980s there was a Nintendo Entertainment System gadget called Miracle, later ported to the PC, but it cost a pile back then.

      Something like that could be done much more cheaply these days. "Mavis Beacon Teaches Synthpop," anyone?

    3. Re:No game for keyboards? by Travelsonic · · Score: 1
      Why doesn't someone make a game like this for piano/keyboard playing?

      Konami has had just the game you seek for years in Japan, however I don't see it getting an American release anytime soon. You may be able to find it in some arcades that specialize in Japanese imports, however.

      Keyboardmania on Wikipedia.


      Never heard of this one before... sounds cool. ^_^

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    4. Re:No game for keyboards? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There hasn't been a new version of Keyboardmania in a loooong time, though : ( The Arcade and home versions both stopped with Keyboardmania 3rd mix, whereas Guitar Freaks and Drum mania (which were numbered similarly and within a similar time frame) are up to...what, 11th and 12th mixes? It's sad, but I believe the Keyboardmania arcade machine needed too much maintenance for what it pulled in, and the home version needed nice equipment...for most people it wasn't quite fun enough/was too hard/cost too much to maintain....but I liked it : )

    5. Re:No game for keyboards? by Narril+Duskwalker · · Score: 1

      There is a game for keyboards, kinda, called Piano Wizard. It's a blast to play with, but it's at best a standalone toy and falls far short of a cohesive game package and is way too expensive for mildly buggy software that lacks many obvious features.

    6. Re:No game for keyboards? by Travelsonic · · Score: 1
      ...whereas Guitar Freaks and Drum mania (which were numbered similarly and within a similar time frame) are up to...what, 11th and 12th mixes?

      Don't forget about Beatmania, the latest release was recent, a U.S release too. ^_^

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    7. Re:No game for keyboards? by EggmaniMN · · Score: 1

      The problem with Keyboardmania came with how the keyboard controller could only be purchased with Keyboardmania 1st Mix. Importers paid $110 at least for this (those who play other Bemani games notice that this is actually a fairly low price for an import music game + controller) and the game had a low production run because it wasn't very popular in the arcades. KBM2nd+3rd Mix came out and had many many more songs but alas, the game still wasn't popular and Konami scrapped the ideas for more home versions. The arcade machine was a very finicky thing. Singular keys could be broken off and sensors could die and it's actually cheaper to buy entirely new keyboards than it is to replace the individual sensors. Aside from that, they have a great sound system and need little cleaning. I know of very few machines in the US but they usually have a key broken off on either side or are out of order and no one plays it because the game itself goes from being really really easy to WGHAT difficult at a certain point. It really wasn't very beginner-friendly in the least.

  14. Why do some elitist musicians hate on Guitar Hero? by Blackwulf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Actually, I do own an acoustic guitar. I have fun with it. (Granted, my first love is percussion and yes, I do own a drumset.)

    However, I still have lots of fun playing Guitar Hero. Why? Because Guitar Hero isn't about playing guitar. It simulates performing for a crowd. I, sadly, do not have the time right now to join a rock band and put in the time I'd really want to in order to sound good to perform at large venues. Guitar Hero simulates performing on stage to an extent. Plucking on my guitar in my living room doesn't simulate playing in front of a crowd.

    It's kind of funny that several elitist musicians bash on the game because it's a "cheap plastic toy", and that people should, instead, buy real instruments. However, I have known two people personally (which is not by any stretch a large number) who got Guitar Hero, enjoyed it so much, that they then went out and bought their first guitar and started to learn how to play one legitemately.

    I would think ANY musician would agree that something that gets more people into playing music is a GOOD thing, and that they should embrace something like Guitar Hero not as a replacement for guitar playing, but rather an entry point for new guitar players.

    (And in fact, one of my friends who enjoys Guitar Hero the most is also an amazing classical guitar player. If he can get over the fact that he's playing a plastic toy, I think anyone can.)

  15. Guitar Hero is a good thing... by AdamTrace · · Score: 1

    I've borrowed a PS2 and GH from a friend for the past week or so, and have been playing it almost non-stop. Seriously, Guitar Hero is one of the most fun, addicting games I've ever played, and I'm not really a big rhythm-game guy (ie, DDR).

    I love the wide range of skill levels that the game presents. Anyone can pick up the game and make it through the easy levels (perhaps after a couple tries). But the Expert levels are insanely difficult.

    Also, I truly believe that Guitar Hero is a Good Thing for music in general. Yes, it won't teach you to play the guitar, but it WILL help you will basic skills like strumming with one hand while holding strings with the other, as well as timing and general dexterity.

    I can't wait for GH2!

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  16. Guitar/Karaoke Hero? by th3walrus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The co-op mode is great and the new addition of playing different song parts is even better. I'd really like to see Guitar Hero combined with a Karaoke Revolution type thing where you can either play the guitar and have to sing along or else you can play the guitar and someone else could sing.

    Are we eventually going to get to a point where we can have all our friends over to play Guitar Hero type songs as a full band? One guy has the guitar, another has the bass, another on drums and a singer! That would be great party fun.

    1. Re:Guitar/Karaoke Hero? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some guy did try to play I Love Rock 'n Roll on both Guitar Hero and Karaoke Revolution at the same time. Even if the guy has no talent (including filming himself), it's pretty funny to watch him go !

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl6N-Z_9A-E&search= guitar%20hero%20karaoke

  17. Really! what is it with these naysaying fucks? by jonskerr · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I can't believe how negative these fucking crybaby posters are on here. There's NO FUCKING WAY I'd put an hour into practice on a real guitar and be able to play a recognizable rendition of Bark at the Moon! What kind of a moron doesn't get this concept? And whatever happened to shutting the fuck up if you don't have something positive, or at least relevant to say? I've had friends who COULD play guitar try Guitar Hero, and they do lousy. It's a game, shithead.

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  18. Not entirely fair to say. by Inoshiro · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Guitar Hero (the first one) is quite possibly the best and most fun game I've played in quite some time (meaning at least a decade)."

    This may be true of you, but some of us were enjoying other rhythm games like Dance Dance Revolution, Pop'n'Music, Samba de Amigo, etc, for years before this came out. I can appreciate that you like guitar more, but don't ignore the rest of the genre :)

    DDR is hardly like ballroom, but it's a heck of a lot of fun.

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    1. Re:Not entirely fair to say. by Travelsonic · · Score: 2, Informative

      Don't forget the game that Guitar Hero wouldn't even be around without - Beatmania (I, III, IIDX, etc) - that game is killer addicting (and a source for a large number of the songs in DDR too. ^_^)

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      If you believe in privacy, and believe you have "nothing to hide" at the same time, you're a goddammed idiot
    2. Re:Not entirely fair to say. by ClamIAm · · Score: 1

      Just because he doesn't mention whatever games you see as the pinnacle of the rhythm genre means neither that he hasn't played them or liked them. Your argument is invalid.

  19. fiance or fiancee? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is she a he? fiance (him) vs. fiancee (her).

    Not trying to troll but just warning that you be careful what you type because this is Slashdot after all - there will be skeptics to your claim...

  20. Why not just go play a real guitar? by llevity · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'll tell you why. I've been playing guitar for close to 15 years. I own an accoustic, two electrics, a couple of amps, a few effects pedals.

    And yet, I still love Guitar Hero. Why?

    It's the same reason I enjoyed Gran Turismo, despite the fact that I own a real car. I can do things in Guitar Hero that I can't do in real life. I can sit down and instantly start playing a song just like the original guitarist. I can crank up the difficulty if I want more of a challenge and to get more of a "I'm really playing a guitar" feel, or I can dial it back and jam with my wife who can't even play an E chord on a real guitar.

    I can do it in front of an audience that roars its approval on a massive shredding solo, without the grueling practice, coordination, and drama of a real band.

    And just like Gran Turismo encouraged me to drive my car a little faster than I should, Guitar Hero has encouraged me to sit down and learn to play some of the songs on my real guitars. But like all good video games, it's there when I want a quick, easy, enjoyable experience.

    1. Re:Why not just go play a real guitar? by __aailob1448 · · Score: 1

      And just like Gran Turismo encouraged me to drive my car a little faster than I should You make it sound like a good thing...

    2. Re:Why not just go play a real guitar? by Zeromous · · Score: 1

      Right, driving slow never killed anyone.

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  21. Re:Games, games game. Doesn't anyone have a job? by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 1

    Not if you keep reading Slashdot at work, you slacker you.

  22. Re:Games, games game. Doesn't anyone have a job? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, I do... playing video games (as a tester). Back to work I go!

  23. Keyboard Mania for PC by Ikeya · · Score: 2, Informative

    It does exist! I have it.
    It only shipped with one Keyboard Model though. The Yamaha EZ250i USB keyboard.
    It emulates the MIDI ports, so not quite as good as a real MIDI keyboard, but at least you can play the game. :)
    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Keyboards/M idi/Portable/Arrangers?sku=707430

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    1. Re:Keyboard Mania for PC by Blackwulf · · Score: 1

      Wow, I had no clue that it had a US release, even if it was bundled with some hardware.

      I'm new here. :>

  24. What's so great about Guitar Hero? by Myria · · Score: 1

    Guitar Hero is a very close ripoff of Guitar Freaks from Konami, which came out back in the days of PlayStation 1. What is so special about this ripoff compared to the original?

    Melissa

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    1. Re:What's so great about Guitar Hero? by Blackwulf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What's so special?

      It was actually released in the US and contained a large list of songs people in the US recognized. Two things Konami never did.

      I love all my Bemani games, don't get me wrong (I've spent thousands of dollars importing IIDX, Pop'n, and Drummania) but Red Octane and Harmonix did what Konami wouldn't do. Konami is very dead set on their Japanese roots, and most people won't play guitar games with songs they don't recognize here in the US.

      So, the difference is...Guitar Hero is marketed towards Americans. Guitar Freaks is marketed towards Japanese. That's not to say Americans wouldn't enjoy Guitar Freaks, but that's not their target audience. Especially since I don't believe Guitar Freaks ever got any release outside of Japan.

    2. Re:What's so great about Guitar Hero? by joystickgenie · · Score: 1

      From a quick glance it would seem to be the same game but there are plenty of differences.

      Different control scheme, Hammer-ons, pull offs, more fret buttons, wammy bar, star power/rock out mode(the motion sensing game play element), Rock music that isn't Jrock(not that I have anything against Jrock), and awards from many many people (http://www.guitarherogame.com/rockalades.asp)

    3. Re:What's so great about Guitar Hero? by EggmaniMN · · Score: 1

      Actually, Guitar Freaks USA was released in arcades here a long time ago. It had a couple of songs for the US but no one played it. They stopped trying after that. Guitar Freaks itself has started to get much more Americanized with some of the songs. It's been going into Metal quite a bit more (including some stuff by Dillinger Escape Plan and Mastodon). The series recently got a new release on JPS2 after...a really long time of there being no home releases for it. I would say that the other thing Guitar Hero has that Guitar Freaks doesn't is a lower learning curve. Guitar Freaks gets absolutely insane at the higher levels, despite it having only 3 fret buttons. It sounds easier but it really isn't. It doesn't especially matter to me either way though because I love my Drummania more than either of the Guitar games (though Beatmania IIDX and Pop'n Music win overall).

    4. Re:What's so great about Guitar Hero? by ClamIAm · · Score: 1

      Either you're trolling, or completely oblivious. Just because both games use a guitar controller does not mean one is a "ripoff" of the other. I realize bending over for Konami feels good, I mean obviously you're a fucking expert on this subject, but perhaps you should open your eyes to reality.

  25. I need a left-handed guitar! by tb3 · · Score: 2

    I just hope Red Octane pays attention to the 10 or 20 percent of us that are left-handed. Turning the controller upside-down just doesn't cut it. The whammy-bar is in the wrong place, and the strap is wrong. And I'm too left-handed to play right-handed.

    I took guitar lessons a few years ago, and discovered that I could only play left-handed. It was much easier to buy a real lefty guitar than fake it any other way. I hope it's possible for RO to build a lefty controller; I'd gladly buy one.

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  26. Begging by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Please. Could you make a PC version? Pretty please? I don't want to throw money towards Sony just to play that game.

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    1. Re:Begging by Hannah+E.+Davis · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My plan is to just get a used/price-reduced PS2 this fall when the PS3 finally comes out. I'm not a big fan of Sony either, but if I can get the game system cheap enough, I don't think I'll feel bad about buying it for just one game :)

    2. Re:Begging by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      For me this would require being certain that Sony doesn't benefit from it. If someone plans to dump his PS2 and needs money for, say, a Nintendo Revolution, hell, even a X360, I'll buy the PS2.

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    3. Re:Begging by a+gash · · Score: 1

      To parent and gp, You can get a used ps2 for under $75 on ebay. Certainly cheaper than any gaming upgrade to a pc, and via ebay NONE of the proceeds go to Sony. I mean come on.

    4. Re:Begging by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sony gets a licencing fee when you buy any PS2 game.

      Even second-hand there's a kind of trickle-down to Sony (i.e. second hand value increases first purchase value, people pay more for new, Sony gets more).

      You're fucked if you don't want Sony to get any cash, ever. Ever seen one of those big advert TVs they have in public places? Sony makes some of those, you looking at the ad gives Sony money indirectly.

      Moral is: relax about it, you can't do anything... Unless Sony actually starts seriously hurting people to the point where burning their warehouses down is a reasonable response, anyway.

  27. Err...what?! by __aailob1448 · · Score: 1

    What you just said is equivalent to something like "You may like shrimp, but I don't."

    So? What does it have to do with anything?

    The guy is saying that guitar hero is the most fun he's had in years. He said nothing about Guitar Hero being the first rhythm game in existence...

  28. I'm arguing nothing. by Inoshiro · · Score: 1

    I was interjecting...
    "I can appreciate that you like guitar more, but don't ignore the rest of the genre :)"

    If you're going to gush about it, it doesn't hurt to mention other games (and especially since Guitar Heroes is just a clone of one of the Bemani games, Guitar Freaks).

    His post implied that Guitar Heroes was out of the blue, when it's just a clone of Konami's work. I interjected this extra bit of info :)

    I swear, no one on this site knows how to read for content, and is too caught up in "out-doing" everyone else in comment content. Slashdot commenting is not a deathmatch :p

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    1. Re:I'm arguing nothing. by __aailob1448 · · Score: 1

      That's just it. He didn't imply Guitar Hero was out of the blue. I've played lots and lots of rhythm game before Guitar Hero (which is not my favorite) and I would have phrased it the same as him. I wouldn't have implied anything.... I suggest you play Osu!Tatakae!Ouendan for Nintendo DS. It's almost as good as Guitar Hero.

  29. Finally, another chance to look nerdy! by tatersalad · · Score: 1

    The ladies will be all up ons when they see my obvious guitar skills! Thank you Guitar Hero Series. You truely are my hero.

  30. I wonder.... by Rydia · · Score: 1

    How well GH has sold. I actually have no idea, and while everyone seems to be talking about it, people tend to mistake popularity with their group as popularity across the board. Look at Katamari Damacy, for instance.

    Just wondering if it's nearly as successful as everyone thinks it is.

  31. Re:Flashback to this morning.. by miscz · · Score: 1

    and it still is :]

  32. XBox port? by Hella+Guapo · · Score: 1
    Still no news re: this game being available of the XBox? My girlfriend (who is not into games at all) and I played this game at a friend's house and she really got a kick out of it. Guitar Hero is just what I need to lure her over to the dark side.

    I'm not planning on buying a PS2 just to get this game though. I hope they plan on porting this game over so they can milk the other half for some scrilla.

    1. Re:XBox port? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry to disappoint, but games with peripherals rarely ever get released for more than one system. That would involve manufacturing a second version of the peripheral, which is very expensive and would probably confuse consumers.

    2. Re:XBox port? by Manmademan · · Score: 1

      The Xbox1 is officially dead and no longer being produced, so no...an Xbox version isn't very likely. The 360 doesn't have the install base to justify such a risky release right now (the game is VERY expensive and rhythm games are still kinda niche), plus it's international support is practically nonexistant. Looks like if you want to play Guitar Hero, it's Ps2 or nothing.

    3. Re:XBox port? by Hella+Guapo · · Score: 1
      Sorry to disappoint, but games with peripherals rarely ever get released for more than one system. That would involve manufacturing a second version of the peripheral, which is very expensive and would probably confuse consumers.

      I suppose the DDR pads are an exception to this rule. Still I have a hard time believing that nobody at M$ has taken note of how popular Guitar Hero and wants to get a taste. Maybe the chances are better of seeing a Guitar Hero clone for the XBox.

  33. Obligatory Light Bulb Joke by AnalogDiehard · · Score: 1
    How many guitar heroes does it take to change a light bulb?

    They have games to do that now.

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