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Banner Ad on Myspace Serves Adware to 1 Million

An anonymous reader writes "Washingtonpost.com's Security Fix blog reports that a banner ad running on MySpace.com and other Web sites used a Windows security flaw to push adware and spyware out to more than one million computer users this week. The attack leveraged the Windows Metafile (WMF) exploit to install programs in the PurityScan/ClickSpring family of adware, which bombards the user with pop-up ads and tracks their Web usage."

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  1. Excellent. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Darwinism works!

    1. Re:Excellent. by jZnat · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, it surely wasn't Intelligent Design that did it...

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    2. Re:Excellent. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...Which is pathetically ironic given that people here don't get laid.

    3. Re:Excellent. by ultranova · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...Which is pathetically ironic given that people here don't get laid.

      Hah! A real master nerd is never unprepared. I'll watch the whole run of Nuku-Nuku for inspiration and build myself a catgirl android lover, and we'll make dozens of cyborg kittens together.

      Take that, natural selection!

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  2. Prosecute virus creating companies. by Facekhan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    And they wonder why consumers want to block all ads. Its because of illegal virus ads like this. If they prosecuted spyware companies the way they do with other virus creators we would not have as much of a problem with people setting up shop as if this is a legitimate business and then hijacking people's computers for profit and waiting for enough complaints to pile up that maybe the state attempts an enforcement action which at worst closes the company and more likely a few small fines and promises to behave in the future. Either way the owners of these companies never serve a day in prison for releasing their viruses.

    1. Re:Prosecute virus creating companies. by CRCulver · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And they wonder why consumers want to block all ads. Its because of illegal virus ads like this.

      Not at all. I imagine that most of us around here who install AdBlock and FlashBlock do so because of the bandwidth and processor power that ad-laden pages take. People on non-Windows platforms hardly have to fear WMF exploits.

    2. Re:Prosecute virus creating companies. by Ethan+Allison · · Score: 5, Funny

      People on non-Windows platforms are generally not the targets of ads, as indicated by XP-styled "message box" banners.

    3. Re:Prosecute virus creating companies. by Mr+Tall · · Score: 2, Informative

      I have ad + flashblock installed because adverts look like shit.

    4. Re:Prosecute virus creating companies. by Tim+C · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I imagine that most of us around here who install AdBlock and FlashBlock do so because of the bandwidth and processor power that ad-laden pages take.

      Speaking personally, I generally block ads that are misleading, flashy and/or distracting. I've lost count of the number of times an otherwise perfectly good webpage has been ruined (aesthetically) by an in your face ad.

      Anything that attempts to look like a system dialogue, or to convince me that my PC is running slowly and needs to be fixed, etc, gets the entire advertiser's domain and sub-domains blocked. I hate that shit.

    5. Re:Prosecute virus creating companies. by suffe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I must confess, I've never been able to quite understand how companies are willing to show those adds on their space. Seemingly serious sites can be littered with them and in regard to professionalism it just seems like scraping the bottom of the barrel. Who can take a company/site serious when they are (through their ads) trying to outright scam their customers?

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    6. Re:Prosecute virus creating companies. by panaceaa · · Score: 3, Funny

      OMG WTF I THOUGHT THOSE WERE POP-UPS BY HACKERS!!! when i pressed the "X" it still went to there page!!!!! those are the ppl we should really be suing$@!one!!

    7. Re:Prosecute virus creating companies. by tehshen · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Who can take a company/site serious when they are (through their ads) trying to outright scam their customers?

      This works for the same reason that spam works - it's cheap to do, and only a few stupid people need to click on the ads for them to be making money again.

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    8. Re:Prosecute virus creating companies. by jamar0303 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I remember that a couple of years or so back I got hit with a multiple Mac OS Classic-style dialog box ads from Japanese websites (mostly for dating sites with messages like "your love life is slowing down- need help?") but I have never gotten any Mac-style dialog box ads since then (only one OS X-style dialg box ad also from a Japanese website). I suppose that back before OS X the Mac was gaining more market share in Japan than PCs so those dialog box ads gained a Mac style rather than a PC style- that or Mac users there are more ...desperate for love... than PC users there.

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    9. Re:Prosecute virus creating companies. by Bogtha · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I have to disagree with both of you. People block ads not because of risk, not because they take up too much bandwidth and processor power, but because they take up too much attention. People want to pay attention to the real content, not wade through fake distracting crap that wants to sell them something.

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    10. Re:Prosecute virus creating companies. by bcmm · · Score: 4, Informative

      The creation of this basically malicious content was wrong and should be punished by the Law, but please don't join the media and the less educated parts of our governments in refering to all computer security exploits as "viruses".

      This attack is not a virus because it cannot spread to new hosts from infected machines. It is, more accuratly, a trojan, in that it is "executed" under the false pretence of being non-malicious code (I put "executed" in inverted commas because there is the additional issue of how it ended up actually executing native code on the infected machines).

      Also, the people who recieve harsh sentances are normally writers of worms, rather than viruses. This is because the extremely rapid way in which some worms infect new machines can cause serious overload of the networks over which they spread, which tends to cause more $s of damage than the damage to the actual machines. Although these ads are wrong, they have not had that sort of global impact on networks.

      So, while I agree that these people should be prosecuted and severely punished, I believe that it is misguided to say that they should be prosecuted under the same laws as virus and worm authors, as this would just muddy the water and add to the current situation where all computer users have to be worried about which laws they might be breaking.

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    11. Re:Prosecute virus creating companies. by cdrudge · · Score: 2, Funny

      You are underestimating the power that $.0000001 per ad can generate.

    12. Re:Prosecute virus creating companies. by suffe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If anything, I might overestimate the value of a returning customer. Or they might underestimate it. Who knows.

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    13. Re:Prosecute virus creating companies. by hotdiggitydawg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What's to stop them checking the user's platform before deciding which ad (XP, OS/X, or whatever style) to serve up?

    14. Re:Prosecute virus creating companies. by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Seemingly serious sites can be littered with [malicious ads] and in regard to professionalism it just seems like scraping the bottom of the barrel.

      MySpace is owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation.

  3. I love how the submission links the comments by Neoncow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This way we don't even have to read the article if we want to! We can just comment about the comments of the article. =D

  4. WMF Exploit Now Affects Mac Users! by robotsrule · · Score: 2, Funny

    There is a new variant of the WMF exploit that affects all Mac users running OS X. When a Mac user browses a web page that is displaying a banner ad with the WMF exploit, malicious code is run that silently installs Windows Vista on to the Mac users computer thereby completely replacing OS X with Vista.

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    1. Re:WMF Exploit Now Affects Mac Users! by jZnat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sources indicate that OSX users only noticed because their computer started to "crash a lot". "I didn't even notice the change to be quite honest," an anonymous user explained. "Only that the buttons moved to the other side of the window."

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    2. Re:WMF Exploit Now Affects Mac Users! by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 3, Funny
      Sources indicate that OSX users only noticed because their computer started to "crash a lot". "I didn't even notice the change to be quite honest," an anonymous user explained. "Only that the buttons moved to the other side of the window."


      Users further complained that their productivity shot way down when a number of games mysteriously started working.
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  5. This comes right after a Flash hack by ben+there... · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Tom (the site's...er, spokesperson) left this message in everyone's Inbox on the 17th:

    Latest Update: 05:15PM PST, Monday, July 17th.
    hey folks - we are moving myspace music players and video players to flash 9.0. flash 9 has security fixes so that people can't mess with you on myspace. if your 'about me' got screwed up this weekend, you could have been safe if you had flash 9 installed. here's an easy way to install it, go watch this dashboard video i posted last week. if you don't like dashboard, just watch any video in our video section, and you'll be prompted to install flash 9.

    His solution to the hack that destroys a section of your profile is not that he will fix the site, but that you should install Flash 9.
    1. Re:This comes right after a Flash hack by ozbird · · Score: 3, Informative


      His solution to the hack that destroys a section of your profile is not that he will fix the site, but that you should install Flash 9.

      So if you're not a Windows or Mac OS X (PowerPC) user, you're SOL.

    2. Re:This comes right after a Flash hack by alphasubzero949 · · Score: 2

      His solution to the hack that destroys a section of your profile is not that he will fix the site, but that you should install Flash 9.

      Unfortunately, it won't fix the crappy member pages that crash your browser.

    3. Re:This comes right after a Flash hack by Slow2Show · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Its because it is a bug in flash's understanding of DOM security. Not myspace's, so hence your attempt at insinuating that they don't know what they're doing is incorrect.

      Sorry try again after you RTFM RE: security issues.

    4. Re:This comes right after a Flash hack by paganizer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I make my kids use firefox when they go to myspace; I also only let them access it on a system that is firewalled from the rest of the network, which they have to keep running.
      I figure it's good training for when they have to go off to college away from their MCSE/Linux Geek/Ex-BBS sysop dad.

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    5. Re:This comes right after a Flash hack by kabocox · · Score: 2, Insightful

      His solution to the hack that destroys a section of your profile is not that he will fix the site, but that you should install Flash 9.

      You gotta love laziness! You know the weird thing is that is most likely the best thing that he could have done to "fix" his problem. I'm on several security mailing lists and get notices of all the holes in nearly everything. Do you want to know the real dirty secret? That process is worthless to me unless they happen to be announcing a patch to the product that fixes the problem. There is little to nothing he could have done if his problem was in a piece of software that he runs but doesn't write himself. About the only thing that, he could do to speed up develop of a patch is pray. Suggesting to users to update their flash players after a flash hack sounds like it should be a valid solution if the problem was in the vast majority of user's outdated flash players.

  6. Heh, on Facebook too. by betterthanducttape · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Heh, I posted about this having been on Facebook earlier today in the Slashback article. I'm rather amazed that these things could have been active for days without getting caught and pulled by the websites. I'd ban the advertising company from my site after a stunt like this, no matter how much money they bring in. They just exposed hundreds of thousands of high school and college students to a virus for a quick buck.

    1. Re:Heh, on Facebook too. by rhizome · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'd ban the advertising company from my site after a stunt like this, no matter how much money they bring in.

      Let me guess, you generally don't receive advertising money.

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  7. Re:First time? by hendridm · · Score: 5, Funny
    Makes me question myspace, you'd think they have people watching for these sorts of attacks.

    Hah, that's like finding a loaded diaper in a garbage dump and then complaining about the level of sanitation.

  8. All your Myspace are belong to us? by davidwr · · Score: 5, Funny

    "It's called My Space not Your space for a reason."
        -MySpace Vice President In Charge Of Revenue Generation

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  9. Just update by bigtimepie · · Score: 5, Funny
    From the article:
    Microsoft released a patch in January to fix a serious security flaw in the way Windows renders WMF
    What is clear from this attack is that there are plenty of people who still haven't installed this security update from Microsoft.
    If your OS puts out a security fix, it's probably for a reason. This could have been avoided for everyone just by keeping up-to-date.
    1. Re:Just update by 0racle · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Lots of exploits that have been released have been fixed before the exploit made the rounds. Its just that the type of moron MySpace caters to are also the type of moron that won't ever learn how to do things right.

      MySpace knows its users are idiots, and that they aren't going anywhere until their 15 minutes of fame are up. What do they care that ads they carry also target those same idiots.

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      "I use a Mac because I'm just better than you are."
    2. Re:Just update by Zindagi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There might be other reasons why your computer is not up to date. For instance, now that Microsoft insists I install WGA before I can get the updates -- I havent been getting the updates. So Lord knows what all critical fixes my computer is missing. Not that that excuses anybody for using IE :)

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    3. Re:Just update by hyfe · · Score: 2, Funny
      If your OS puts out a security fix, it's probably for a reason. This could have been avoided for everyone just by keeping up-to-date.
      I'm a bit unsure if this is irony or not

      If it's not. I just want to mention 'Windows Genuine Advantage', the oh-so-very critical security fix. Sure, it's there for a reason, but that reason ain't your computers well-being!

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    4. Re:Just update by smash · · Score: 3, Funny
      Upgrade from XP to 2000, which doesn't insist on installing WGA before you can install updates, runs faster, and generally pisses you off less by trying to do stuff behind your back.

      Less security problems as well :D

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    5. Re:Just update by cliffski · · Score: 2, Insightful

      not everyone who is not tech savvy is an idiot. Don't fall into the trap of assuming stupidity because someone has a differing skillset. Im sure most car mechanics think I'm an idiot because I have sod all idea how my car works, or for that matter, how to keep the engine in top condition. Like most drivers, if it starts , stops and gets me to work, I'm fine.

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  10. Tips by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    1. Use Mozilla Firefox.
    2. Uninstall Flash, you don't need that proprietary junk, 99% of all flash animations are ads/banners anyways.
    3. Maybe you want to "block loading of images from third-party sites".
    4. Use the Adblock extension for Firefox, you can get it at http://adblock.mozdev.org/ and get some rules for it.
    5. Use a more secure operating system.

    I hate Myspace, it is a website that caters to retards, it is so dumb.

    1. Re:Tips by tacarat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, I'm wishing they'd update the flash player for Linux. Newgrounds has increasing amounts of games I can't play because of the old version. I'll be very sad if I miss a new RAB because of it...

      Other than that, I agree with everything you put up.

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      "Common sense will be the death of us all"
    2. Re:Tips by inject_hotmail.com · · Score: 3, Informative
      1. Use Mozilla Firefox.
      2. Uninstall Flash, you don't need that proprietary junk, 99% of all flash animations are ads/banners anyways.
      3. Maybe you want to "block loading of images from third-party sites".
      4. Use the Adblock extension for Firefox, you can get it at http://adblock.mozdev.org/ and get some rules for it.
      5. Use a more secure operating system

      Another great way to block most (99% ??) ad sites is to go here and download this. It's a hosts file that directs your PC to essentially IGNORE ALL known ad servers.

      Why forge a battle on your computer between your browser and an ad server, when one can ignore the war?
    3. Re:Tips by Shippinator+Mandy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "2. Uninstall Flash, you don't need that proprietary junk, 99% of all flash animations are ads/banners anyways." But what about the 1% that's entertaining or useful? I'm a huge webtoon fan, so if I uninstalled Flash, I'd be losing the use of some of my favorite websites. And I know I'm playing devil's advocate here, but most banner ads don't serve adware, spyware, or viruses. If they did, this wouldn't be news.

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  11. Prosecute the "sellers" too by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Prosecute virus creating companies.

    How about Myspace as well? It is easily argued that Myspace controls the banner space and content added to the 'global' site (ie every page). This is akin to aiding and abetting.

    The sad thing is that a million PCs were infected, and probably 500,000 of them will -stay- infected. And will this even remotely hurt Myspace's market share/traffic? I seriously doubt it.

    1. Re:Prosecute the "sellers" too by nwbvt · · Score: 3, Insightful
      "How about Myspace as well? It is easily argued that Myspace controls the banner space and content added to the 'global' site (ie every page). This is akin to aiding and abetting. "

      Only if Myspace knew what was going on (which they almost certainly did not). Or do you think any business transaction with criminals is 'akin to aiding and abetting'? In which case, shouldn't you also prosecute

      • banks, if one or more of their clients deposit money they got illegally?
      • hotels, in whose rooms illegal transactions (prostitution, drug dealing, whatever) take place?
      • computer manufacturers, whose customers use their computers to steal identities?
      • camera manufacturers, whose products may be used to stalk people and invade their privacy?
      • etc.
      Ask yourself this, do you really want to go down that road? Do you really want companies to run extended background checks on you before they sell you anything to make sure you may not use it in some obscure way to harm others? Is such a police state really what you want? Or do you just not like Myspace (either because it is used by the same teenage girls who wouldn't date you in high school, or because it is owned by NewsCorp)?
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    2. Re:Prosecute the "sellers" too by arkhan_jg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree with your examples, but not with your linking of them with the original problem. A bank or computer maker or hotel's CUSTOMERS are committing the illegal act. You're right, the business should not be held liable for what their clients do, i.e. myspace shouldn't be held liable for what their users hosting pages put on them.

      This is different. This is the business putting up an advertising hoarding that is dangerous to visitors. The business already vets its adverts (so no porn), so it has the duty and capability to vet its adboards for viruses, just as if it was hosting auto-install viruses on the front page in their own webspace.

      Just because it subcontracts the advertising out to a third party doesn't get myspace off the hook, any more than a bank with a beartrap inside the front door wouldn't be liable because their builders put it there.

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    3. Re:Prosecute the "sellers" too by dfjghsk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You're right, the business should not be held liable for what their clients do

      So why do you then say MySpace should be held responsible?

      Look.. the visitors are not MySpace's clients.. the visitors are the product (and if they aren't the product, then at best they are leaches.. they would never be considered a client, since they don't give MySpace a dime).

      MySpaces clients are those who give it money.. ie: the advertisers.

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    4. Re:Prosecute the "sellers" too by Sir+Runcible+Spoon · · Score: 2, Informative

      It is a problem for a company to check the ads embedded on its pages when those ads are served by another company.

      Only a general link is embedded in the page which causes the user's browser to makes a request to the ad companies server. Every time the link is used a different ad is served. The ad travels directly from the ad company to the user, nothing of it is seen by the company hosting the page.

      The ad company likes this arrangement because they then know the ad they are paying for was really served. So the only control the hosting company has is by writing it into the contract, which as often they are the junior player, they probably don't have much control over. I know they could go to another ad company, but they will probably end up with similar terms there.

      So I think you can try and hold the page owner responsible if you like, but I don't think this will have any practical impact. It's the ad company that has the opportunity to verify the ad is not anti-social, so it would be better sue them.

  12. Slashdot one-ups Washington Post moderators by zaliph · · Score: 2, Insightful
    This is absolutely hilarious. I wonder if more people got AIDS or this from Myspace? Posted by: bvllets | July 19, 2006 05:20 PM
    My jaw is open in disbelief.
    1. Re:Slashdot one-ups Washington Post moderators by walnutmon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't get it? I don't see that post anywhere, did they take it down?

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  13. When you go to the community pool... by inject_hotmail.com · · Score: 3, Interesting

    expect to pick up something special for the ride home.

    I'm not trolling, but I can't stand myspace-type blogs.

    People need to understand that the net costs money. If you didn't pull out your credit card to pay for the resources you consumed, you'll be pulling in something into your PC...and when the intelligence quotient is double-digit...

    I've visited myspace exactly once. By accident. I'd consider it to be a sesspool of the Internet if I saw more than one profile. My sister, too, has been affected by the WMF exploit in a myspace profile. Let me just say that telephone support for Win98 on an ancient laptop is less fun than most things, including elevator rides with those people that feel that the body cleanses itself.

    My perspective -- if one goes to myspace, one deserves its effects.

  14. DNS Ad-blocking by computergeek1200 · · Score: 5, Informative

    My solution to solve this problem is to block the domains of the servers that host these ads such as (pagead2.googlesyndication.com) by using a dns server. This is better than firefox ad-blocking or most other systems. This system prevents any connection to the advertising server. I have a dns server for ad-blocking that is publicly avaiable at 68.147.32.114.

    Click here to see if you configured your dns properly.
    1. Re:DNS Ad-blocking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Using a public DNS server requires a fair amount of trust. I'd rather have just a list of hosts to block, which are widely available and much less of a security risk.

    2. Re:DNS Ad-blocking by computergeek1200 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree that public dns servers can be a security risk. Is is possible to get a blocklist and add it to the dns server automatically. (instead of manually creating new zones and host records)

  15. Re:First time? by tinkertim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    >> Makes me question myspace, you'd think they have people watching for these sorts of attacks.

    Yes, and you're 100% right. Since they are syndicating it, showing 'due diligence' in making sure they aren't syndicating harmful code is their responsibility.

    The question comes down to , reasonably, what is a good percentage to equate with 'due diligence' in checking what they syndicate. They have a few million pages, videos and photos to police, as well as watching what their advertisers are using their network to display.

    So even if they go way above and beyond the 80% catch rate of abuse prior to it leaving their network, stuff like this is still going to happen. I'd imagine they only catch about 70% of illegal use involving their network, and considering its size and attractiveness to bad-doers, that's not bad.

    Of course its an age old argument, who is most at fault. The person who shot the gun or the company that provided it?

    I am also noting a rather old vulnerability was exploited, and people not updating their systems need to share some of the blame.

    So I guess in essence .. 'shit happens.'

  16. Re:why? by kjart · · Score: 4, Funny

    Anyone who protests tracking of their web usage obviously hates america.

    Exactly - every time you delete a cookie an american flag bursts into flame.

  17. Virus/adware-spreading ads by john_prog · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ads can be a growing security risk in the future. I'd like to ban all ads at work, but I can't do that since IE6 is the only allowed browser here and no extra software is allowed to be installed. Once I surfed to Dilbert website for comics that I thought would be safe, but Errorsafe malware tried to install itself to my machine (by ActiveX component in an ad). See http://koti.mbnet.fi/jnyman/dilbert.html screen capture here (the dialogue text is in Finnish, but the bottom line asks "Do you want to install Errorsafe program to your computer to check your computer for free (recommended)?". I complained about this to Dilbert website's webmaster and to Scott Adams and they replied that they're looking at the problem, but after that nothing. Haven't visited Dilbert website since at work. Hope this is not a growing trend.

    1. Re:Virus/adware-spreading ads by SCPRedMage · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In your case, the problem wasn't with the Dilbert website, and in the parent article, it wasn't a problem with myspace, either.

      The problem is with the ad-serving companies that these websites use. Either they're less-than-trustworthy, and are directly responsible for the exploits being used, or they sub-contract out, and don't care enough to keep an eye on their "partners". Usually, notifying the webmaster of the offending site is enough to get them to have a "talk" with their advertisers to resolve the situation.

      Of course, you probably already know this, but it bears repeating as it's something that can be missed by people not familar with the subject.

      Please, won't someone think of the n00bs?

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    2. Re:Virus/adware-spreading ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I had dilbert.com as my home-page for years, but recently gave up on it in disgust. 9 times out of 10 Firefox would block anything upto 3 popups, and then they started to carry an extremly obnoxious popup that even Firefox couldn't block. I figure anyone being that anti-social doesn't want me around, so I left. If I were Scott Adams I'd be outraged by United Medias total dimwitedness, but I guess his Clue departed many years ago.

    3. Re:Virus/adware-spreading ads by FlyingCheese · · Score: 3, Funny

      The Government is spying on you and killing off people who speak bad about the government. The whole "Freedom" thing is a public face, the original writers of the Constitution are a mysterious and well hidden group that has links to The Masons and Illuminati.

      Can I substantiate this? Yes. Will I substantiate it? No.

      I don't care if anyone believes me. Just remember, you heard it here first.


      Oh and pass the bong, dude. Thanks.

    4. Re:Virus/adware-spreading ads by Sarisar · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Never had a problem, using Privoxy to stop shit like that. I even have turned OFF the popup blocker in opera / firefox / swiftfox / whatever else I'm using because privoxy gets 99% of them. Any it doesn't I just amend the rules to add it in.

      Then again I set it to block almost everything by default.

    5. Re:Virus/adware-spreading ads by v1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      might ?

      I've never known them not to

      What I get a kick out of is how they like to tell you they have no way to contact them and there's nowhere you can complain to.

      Um... you're getting a CHECK from them every month, remember? (we know you're not allowing that crapware on your site for free!)

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      I work for the Department of Redundancy Department.
    6. Re:Virus/adware-spreading ads by funfail · · Score: 2, Informative

      You don't have to stop reading Dilbert. Subscribe to the RSS feed instead:

      http://www.tapestrycomics.com/dilbert.xml

    7. Re:Virus/adware-spreading ads by dsgitl · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, I wish I hadn't. This is the message I got:

        http://koti.mbnet.fi/jnyman/dilbert.html has been categorized as Pornography. It has been blocked per your organization's Internet Usage Policy for group Public.

      So, you know, thanks for that.

    8. Re:Virus/adware-spreading ads by F_Scentura · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "In your case, the problem wasn't with the Dilbert website, and in the parent article, it wasn't a problem with myspace, either.

      The problem is with the ad-serving companies that these websites use."

      The Dilbert website serves ads from these companies, therefore the problem's resolution is ultimately the responsibility of the Dilbert website.

      I don't blame the ad-servers just as I don't blame wild animals for mauling tourists. It's in their nature ;)

  18. Re:why? by GodOfCode · · Score: 3, Funny

    > Exactly - every time you delete a cookie an american flag bursts into flame. So what happens when you clear all cookies from you machine?

  19. The shocking part is.... by Rapier · · Score: 4, Funny

    The shocking part is that there are still people using Windows. I've got a laptop sitting around here with Windows on it that I use as a novelty once in a while, but it's not like it can really do anything useful. The package management system is horribly antiquainted, the dependancy checking leaves a lot to be desired, and then there are the security holes in the stock applications that come with the OS. Maybe some day it will mature enough to be useful, but for now it's just a novelty that still isn't up to being used in a production environment.

    1. Re:The shocking part is.... by Danga · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The shocking part is that there are still people using Windows

      Why is this shocking? Windows has the highest market share and comes pre-installed on way more than the majority of pre-built computers. It is what people are used to using since it is the OS that most people started out on, so the majority of people are more comfortable using Windows since they don't have to learn something new. A lot of people also just don't know any better. They don't realize or care that there are other OS's available, as long as they can surf the web, check their e-mail, use MS Office applications, and play their games what incentive do they have to move to anything else?

      The package management system is horribly antiquainted, the dependancy checking leaves a lot to be desired, and then there are the security holes in the stock applications that come with the OS.

      Oh, sounds a lot like linux (although it has gotten better recently). I am not a fan of how Windows goes about these things either, but I must say that I have had much more frustrating times with dependency and package management problems on linux than on any Windows machine. On Windows it usually goes like this:

      1) Try and install upgrade to software.
      2) It doesn't work.
      3) Uninstall software package completely.
      4) Reinstall software.
      5) It magically works.

      Yes, it is horrible that a lot of upgrades work that way but at least that is usually all that is needed. With linux on the otherhand I have literally had to spend days sometimes trying to get packages upgraded/working properly, even with Yum and other package handlers. One pain in the ass that I remember off the top of my head was when I was trying to upgrade some Perl MySQL module after upgrading the MySQL server, it literally took me 3 hair pulling days to finally get everything working right and the whole problem was caused by an error with CPAN (I can't remember exactly right now what the error was).

      If I had to direct my 91 year old grandmother over the phone how to install some software I would much prefer she be running Windows than linux. It would be great if everyone ran linux but I think you are getting ahead of yourself if you honestly believe that it is easier to use than Windows. Now if you are a Mac guy then you could be right, but I have very limited Mac experience.

      Linux is also not immune to having stock applications that have security holes and need to be patched right away, Windows is not alone at all in that regard either. After freshly installing either Windows or linux I have to go through the process of applying the needed patches on both.

      Maybe some day it will mature enough to be useful, but for now it's just a novelty that still isn't up to being used in a production environment.

      If you play games then Windows is very useful since the majority of games are developed for the Windows platform. It also can be made pretty damn secure as long as you lock it down reasonably well, I have not had any problems at all for the last 4 years on my Windows XP Pro boxes at work or home. My work box also is very useful for Windows development, so it is not just a "novelty" and actually is up to being used in a "production environment".

      I don't know what OS you use but you really need to get over your zealotry, you just sound like all of the other zealot sheep who love to rip Windows to pieces even though it does have some useful purposes that they always fail to acknowledge. Windows has its quirks (and quite a few) but so does every other OS that I have used.

      --
      Hey, there is only one Return and it's not of the King, it's of the Jedi.
    2. Re:The shocking part is.... by the_xaqster · · Score: 2, Funny

      ....You did not realise that the loud Whoooshing noise was the joke going over your head.

      --
      I'm just here to regulate Funkyness
  20. Re:why? by Stormwatch · · Score: 3, Funny
    Exactly - every time you delete a cookie an american flag bursts into flame.
    So what happens when you clear all cookies from you machine?
    The USA will become an islamic republic.
  21. Really?? by Gorimek · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And they wonder why consumers want to block all ads. Its because of illegal virus ads like this

    I thought I followed the field fairly well, but I have never heard of any previous virus ads like this.

    1. Re:Really?? by babbling · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It happens all the time. It happened on LiveJournal only a month or two ago.

    2. Re:Really?? by Vo0k · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not on "reputable sites". The problem is you don't have to try hard to get to the "less reputable sites". All you need is to type "com" instead of "org" or "net", make a typo or misspell the domain name, click a result that on first sight looks genuine in Google Search, visit a site from your bookmark which is two years old, enter any phpbb-based forum or any site running on older, unpatched IIS. Minor sites get hijacked all the time.

      --
      Anagram("United States of America") == "Dine out, taste a Mac, fries"
  22. Unfortunately, the elevator riders are right... by patio11 · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... they DO end up with less stench on them at the top of the ride than at the bottom, since convervation of mass means that the stuff suffocating me had to come from somewhere...

  23. Re:The rise and fall of myspace by arivanov · · Score: 4, Informative

    While I agree with you about myspace, the exploit is not by any means MySpace specific.

    On previous occasions Falk AG has served exploits like this through websites like www.theregister.co.uk. In that case Falk had their ad delivery servers broken into.

    This is not the first time and as the time goes we will see much more of this.

    --
    Baker's Law: Misery no longer loves company. Nowadays it insists on it
    http://www.sigsegv.cx/
  24. Re:why? by max99ted · · Score: 4, Funny
    Exactly - every time you delete a cookie an american flag bursts into flame. So what happens when you clear all cookies from you machine?

    God kills an American kitten.

    --

    Please stop APK.. you're only hurting yourself.

  25. umm there has been a patch since jan by atarione · · Score: 3, Informative

    wow... ok so not to interupt and windows hate fest.

    but the WMF exploit has been patched since jan of this year

    anyone that got hit by this only has themselve to blame.

    --
    actually I am happy to see you, however that is in fact a banana in my pocket.
  26. Does Windows Defender Catch This? by fragMasterFlash · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Anyone know if Windows Defender will catch the spyware component of this exploit? I suppose its a moot point since people who run IE unpatched aren't going to run Defender anyway.

  27. Prosecute MySpace by Yez70 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Do you really want companies to run extended background checks on you before they sell you anything to make sure you may not use it in some obscure way to harm others?
     

    You mean like the government wants our ISPs to track and monitor our web usage and keep copies of all our IM's, searches and emails? Or how about our libraries revealing what books we check out? Maybe AT&T could provide a log of all your phone calls. How about the banks reveal all your financial transactions?

    Oops, I forgot - the Patriot Act, among other obscure laws, already allow this.

    Innocent until proven guilty no longer applies in the land of the free - why should it apply to corporate America any different? Oh yea, I forgot, they own the politicians.

    Why can't Microsoft patch the holes in it's software? Why can't MySpace screen it's advertisers? They aren't showing porn site ads, because they 'screened' the ads, correct? So, how come they are serving adware?

    If it's ok for the government to be constantly running background checks (illegally I might add) on it's own citizens in a 'FREE' country, then MySpace should also be responsible for spreading viruses and spyware. Of course, they won't ever have to answer for it. News Corp may as well be owned by the GOP...

    1. Re:Prosecute MySpace by nwbvt · · Score: 2, Insightful
      "You mean like the government wants our ISPs to track and monitor our web usage and keep copies of all our IM's, searches and emails? Or how about our libraries revealing what books we check out? Maybe AT&T could provide a log of all your phone calls. How about the banks reveal all your financial transactions?"

      No, not really...

      I'm scared to ask, but how does your conspiracy theory reason why the government would want ISPs to monitor all that information, when the government itself really wouldn't have any trouble doing it themselves?

      "Why can't Microsoft patch the holes in it's software?"

      They do. Users just don't always install the patches.

      "Why can't MySpace screen it's advertisers? They aren't showing porn site ads, because they 'screened' the ads, correct? So, how come they are serving adware?"

      What part of 'hidden in the ad' did you not get?

      --
      Mathematics is made of 50 percent formulas, 50 percent proofs, and 50 percent imagination.
    2. Re:Prosecute MySpace by RatBastard · · Score: 2, Informative
      Or how about our libraries revealing what books we check out?

      Actually, most libraries go out of their way to destroy your checkout history. One common library checkout systems only keeps track of the person who has that particular copy at that moment. The only way to look up the book is by its inventory number. Searching by patron name returns no result. Once the book is checked in the record is modified saying that the library has it. The result is that there is no history of who had what books or what books you have read.

      Libraries are notorously at odds with the PATRIOT Act and have risked loss of federal funds to do what they can to protect patron privacy.

      Disclosure: My wife works for a local public library.

      --
      Boobies never hurt anyone. - Sherry Glaser.
  28. is myspace responsible for their site or not? by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Only if Myspace knew what was going on (which they almost certainly did not).

    I'll make this very simple for you: Is myspace responsible for the content they put on their site, or not?

    When you are a website the size of myspace, failing to vett your advertising borders on gross negligence and incompetence.

    Furthermore, if you study how 'responsibility' plays out in the business world, particularly with lawsuits- the first party on the food chain is responsible. If that company wants to take action against its employees, suppliers, etc- so be it. But the buck, figuratively, stops at "round one".

  29. Its the Ad, not Myspace by Fr3d · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Before we go on with all the Myspace and Windows bashing it's important to note who is at fault here.

    Myspace isn't at fault and neither is Microsoft

    Sure they make shitty products for the below average user, but that isn't the problem. Myspace administrator's don't choose exactly which ads are dissplayed on their pages, they sell their ad space to an ad company with a few constraints on what types of ads are allowed to appear. The company who provides the ads then chooses specifically which ads it wishes to display on each of Myspace's, and for that matter, hundreds of other web site's web pages. And the users who didn't update their Windows OS arn't any more at fault either. Is it my fault if I leave my window unlocked and I get robbed because of it? No.
    Another important note:
    Myspace users were not the only one affected by this banner ad

    So enough with the flame wars, go fuck the adware companies that are fucking everyone over.

  30. MySpace Hate by IClavdivs · · Score: 2, Insightful

    omg. wow. who would've thought that so many nerds would have such hate for a SOCIAL networking website.

    --
    Now all we need is a little energon, and a lot of luck. -Optimus Prime
  31. MySpace's Response Was To.. by Absentminded-Artist · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...quickly upgrade all flash ads and video to Flash9 this morning. I was just prompted to upgrade to Flash9 (I don't really keep on top of Flash updates) an hour or so ago.

    Although I'd like to see MySpace increase its response time, a week response time is fairly fast for corporations. Apple took two weeks to patch the vulnerabilities discovered last February and they were applauded for having a fast response. The shame is that Microsoft's glacier-like response to security vulnerabilities makes two weeks look speedy, and one week look positively instantaneous.

    I realize that it will be popular to bash MySpace around here over this but the real culprits are, in order from least to greatest responsibility, the users who hadn't patched their OS with the latest updates, Microsoft for pushing such crappy code in the first place, and greatest of all, the ad agency that didn't catch this little beauty. They should lose their contract at the least over this, IMO. I use a Mac, Safari, and an adblocker style sheet, but I want to see an end to this. Kids shouldn't be used to propagate malwarez and if I was a band over at MySpace I'd be plenty ticked off about this, too.

    --
    The Splintered Mind - Overcoming
  32. Re:Firefox with Adblock? by Library+Spoff · · Score: 3, Insightful

    >>Did you see the picture of the CEO on the front of Wired?

    err - he's Rupert Murdoch. If he wasn't going to "make millions off of that company" he wouldn't of bothered with it.

    --
    Acid House saves Souls
  33. Viral marketing by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Funny

    So that's what's meant by that term?

    (You know I've been waiting to say that for weeks now)

    --
    We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
  34. Re:First time? by Vo0k · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The problem is that was not a user-provided content, one of millions of user pages, but advertizer content, something you directly get paid for, and certainly it appears in numbers much smaller than the user pages.

    'Due dilligence' in schools, for example, may not be assuring no single kid ever smokes crack, but it certainly is making sure the school bus driver doesn't.

    --
    Anagram("United States of America") == "Dine out, taste a Mac, fries"
  35. Same thing on OKCupid... by Max+Threshold · · Score: 4, Funny
    I encountered an ad which prompted me to download a file called 'exp.wmf'.

    Yes, it's an online dating site. No, I haven't met anyone on there yet. Shut up.

    1. Re:Same thing on OKCupid... by tritonic · · Score: 2, Funny

      But if you do, offering to disinfect their PC could be a great pick-up line...

  36. Aren't there antihacking laws that apply? by TheLink · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Y'know unauthorized modification of a computer system and all that stuff?

    Tampering with 1 million computers without permission and AFAIK without good reason. Isn't that a serious criminal offense?

    That's what annoys me the most about all those "antihacker" crusades. Don't the same laws apply to spyware, unauthorized adware etc? Even Sony's DRM crap.

    But no, the FBI and other authorities round the world seem to prefer trying to jail people who are pretty harmless (like that brit looking for UFOs).

    If directors/owners of companies doing such stuff were sent to jail (or even seriously threatened with jail), you'd see a lot less spyware or nasty adware around.

    Instead there's one law for the small stupid amateur and another law for the incorporated pros.

    And that is the real reason why there's so much spyware around. Not because users are clueless (even though they are) or click on attachments without thinking.

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  37. Doesn't matter by Frightening · · Score: 4, Funny

    Most people on MySpace have so much spyware to begin with that no change was noticed in their daily activity.

  38. Good Job by krelian · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I liked the fact that the writer avoided linking to the site so they won't get any boost on google from being mentioned on the Washington Post.

  39. Excuses, excuses by metamatic · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The problem is with the ad-serving companies that these websites use. Either they're less-than-trustworthy, and are directly responsible for the exploits being used, or they sub-contract out, and don't care enough to keep an eye on their "partners".

    Funny, that's the same kind of excuse spammers use. "Oh, I'm not a spammer... I purchased this list of e-mail addresses in good faith, how was I to know they weren't all 100% verified opt in like the seller said?"

    It's also the same excuse The Pirate Bay use. "Oh, no, we're not responsible... we just provide a service which other people use to serve up illegal content."

    --
    GCHQ Quantum Insert installed. If only our tongues were made of glass, how much more careful we would be when we speak
    1. Re:Excuses, excuses by rubycodez · · Score: 2, Informative

      riiight, and the "pirate" part of pirate bay has nothing to do with piracy or evil pirates, just the happy, romanticized, andventurous movie-star type of pirates, like Johnny Depp

  40. Spyware common on MySpace by geomark · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seems pretty common for MySpace to be serving up spyware ads. Another recent case was reported here of spyware from Starware being advertised with a banner they made by sticking Osama's face on the body of an Asian model in a bikini. Given the background of the founders of MySpace it shouldn't be surprising (they came from the spyware business according to references sited in that spyware report).

  41. Re:First time? by Darkman,+Walkin+Dude · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Of course its an age old argument, who is most at fault. The person who shot the gun or the company that provided it?

    More like the age old argument, is it illegal or not. Sadly the facts are that this event is not a criminal event, the police won't be getting involved, and no one really cares. Not the infected users, not myspace, and not the advertisers. This is just more roadkill on the information superhighway. Nothing to see here, please move along.

  42. No way! You're kidding me! by Valdrax · · Score: 2, Funny

    So if you're not a Windows or Mac OS X (PowerPC) user, you're SOL.

    You mean to tell us that a site that is pratically a shrine to petty teenage popularity contests, cliquishness, and ad-whoring for the biggest businesses in the world only supports the two OSes used by more than 2% of the market!?

    Holy crap! What is the world coming to?

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    If it's for-profit but free, you're not the customer -- you're the product (e.g., the Slashdot Beta's "audience").
  43. umm.... by 1800maxim · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yup! The virus evolved by itself from random bits and used WMF as a host, and then became active on users' PCs.... ;)