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Why "Yahoo" Is The #1 Search Term On Google
An anonymous reader writes "Google Trends indicates that over the course of the past year the search term "Yahoo" became more popular than "sex", making it the #1 query on Google. Yahoo apparently faces a similar dilemma with roles reversed: When you search for "Google" on Yahoo, Yahoo thoughtfully displays a second search box as if to tell you, "Hey cutie, you have a search engine right in front of you!" A puzzling phenomenon? An strange aberration?"
If you write it it will come.
Hands up how many people went between google and yahoo trying these searches?
liqbase
People is using "pr0n" to search for that stuff.
Thanks to slashdot, of course.
Ask Jeeves, maybe he knows?
Yahoo! will display that box for any search engine, try "msn search" or "ask.com" and I personally wouldn't use the words "thoughtful" or "cutsie" to describe it. It's just selective advertising. And--like nearly all forms of advertising--I hate it.
Considering that www.yahoo.com takes about 5,000k more memory than www.google.com in my Firefox browser, it's obvious to me which one I use by default. Now with the search box in the upper right being able to link to either of them, I still find that Yahoo!'s returned results has a larger memory footprint than Google's.
My work here is dung.
Even if we all try that (I did), there's no way we could slashdot those pages.
Move along, nothing to crash there...
Well, nowadays they would send you to Novell so it might even work ;-)
http://www.gahooyoogle.com/
Politics is Treachery, Religion is Brainwashing
I would imagine it's because a HUGE population out there just doesn't understand or care what a "default page" is, how to change it, or that someone (or some kitty'n'virus download executable) left their computer with such a page as the default. They know they want to "look it up on the Googles" so they get to it by typing google in the "slot" or "address bar" that's right there in the middle of the screen every time they launch "the Internet."
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Not at all. A lot of people don't know the difference between an address bar and a "search box." They type where they want to go into whatever is handy, and the browser (eventually) takes them there. I've seen more than one person start up their browser and type full URLs into search engines. Attempts to "correct" them are futile because what they are doing gets them what they want.
Rather than type in "http:///www.yahoo.com", it can be simpler to type in "yahoo" into a google search text box, hit return, and click on the appropriate link from google's results.
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Everyone seems to assume when looking at the search terms that people are being stupid and actually searching for a search engine. This is not always the case. For instance, while Google is getting better at this, they have not always been good at providing links to their various services. For the longest time, I knew of no way to get to a direct link to Google Analytics, thus if I was on a computer that I didn't have bookmarks, I would simply search for "google analytics" which gave me the results I needed. Both google and Yahoo are used for much more than as a search engine. Add to this that they are also both in the news a fair amount and people may want to find information about some news development. Don't be too quick to assume the reason for people making searches, particularly when you don't know the full search string that they used.
j.goforth
Back in the days when there were not a whole slew of service providers available, AOL was one of the few with easy access and local dial-up numbers. (Am I dating myself yet?) And back in my AOL days before it became the bane of the Internet, the portal features allowed one to type in a "keyword" which would then take you to a web page that was associated with that keyword. However, you did not leave thier portal and never really hit the actual webpage because the portal seemed to cache the most popular sites to improve performance on slow dial-up (we're talking 14.4 modems, not even a 33.6). Now, in the present days of accessible broadband, many people are jumping to the fatser connections and being forced to abandon the AOL dial-up services they came to know, love and abuse.
Due to this phenomena, it seems that many people are inadvertantly using the search features of newer browsers to type in keywords and get the page they are looking for immediatly. The search engines are shooting themselves in the foot by adding the Google and Yahoo toolbars and making this ability accessible to users. What's worse is that with these toolbars in the browsers, even if the page is cached, unlike how AOL's portal used to operate, every time the ENTER button is pressed, it hits the search engine. Since computers have become more accessible to the general public and arguably more intuitive to use (even Windows) there are many people who know only a world like AOL. This limited knowledge leads to poor behavior on the actual Internet. Since more of these AOL'ers are tearing off the AOL portal training wheels, they are hitting the real Internet in droves and using bad habits propogated by AOL's effort to preserve a competative advantage in thier portal.
Apparently, many people still don't use the address bar to go to websites. They actually type addresses or the second-level domain name in the search engine that happens to be the default home page. My mother-in-law has a HP-Compaq laptop that had yahoo.com as her default home page. SO, if someone buys a computer where yahoo.com is default, but they prefer to use google, they simply type google in the search box to get to google.com. My mom does something similar. She doesn't remember URLs, she relies solely on the default home page search to navigate the internet.
I blows my mind that after all these years, people still do this.
The reason Google is successful, is that they understand the needs of their audience and they cater to them. Yahoo has never allowed anyone to correct their business model, which is why Google exists today.
The dangers of knowledge trigger emotional distress in human beings.
New users can't tell the difference between the URL box at the top of the browser and the search box at the top of search engine pages. At a previous web dev job we had a customer that did the same thing, that one was fun to troubleshoot.
People have already commented on the fact that it's "mindblowing" to them that the average computer user can't differentiate between the address bar and a search box, not to mention that they don't remember or use URLs. I think that's a bit of an elitist, naive view of the overwhelming majority of internet users. Side-stepping the (woefully draining) topic of "why isn't Aunt Ruth more adept at computing?", people googling for yahoo is no different than dialing 411 to get an operator to look up a phone number and make a connection for you. Sometimes it makes sense.
Sometimes you're driving and can't safely get out the yellow pages (or yellowpages.com) to look up a number and call it.
Sometimes you're on a device with limited typing capabilities and can't be bothered to type "http://" with 9 keys.
Sometimes you don't know what "http://" even means, let alone are skilled enough at typing to quickly knock in "http://www.google.com" when "google" is already strenuous enough and all you wanted in the first place.
I know, it's 2007. People should learn and adapt. I get it. That's my gut reaction too, but then again, tell that to my grandma who has never driven a day in her life because back when she could've learned, it wasn't necessary or (apparently) proper for women to have a driver's license or a car. As weird as it seems in today's society, it hasn't stopped her from living a full life.
-Rylfaeth
A lot of people simply don't care to learn the difference between the search box and the address bar. "If I type what I want into this box here, I sometimes get a strange error message. But if I type it into that box there, then I get what I want. Therefore, I'll use that box there for everything." And you know what? It doesn't bother me that they don't care. In fact, I think it's good that they don't care. Computers should adapt to people, not the other way around.
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http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2006/11
The Canadian Yahoo site doesn't use the same trick. Try it.
Blerg.
http://www.google.com/
- 501&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8
IE6: 15,524k
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=testing
IE6: 15,896k
http://www.yahoo.com/
IE6: 29,492k
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=testing&fr=yfp-t
IE6: 25,848k
I don't want this to be a browser war, I want this to be an analysis of these search engines. In IE6, Yahoo fares even worse. The ratio ranges from 1:2 on the homepage to 3:5 on a random search.
My work here is dung.
"Quick, give me the number for 9-1-1!"
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I reconfigured their Internet Explorer so they had their address bar back. Tomorrow I might teach them how to change their home page.
Zen tips: Pay attention. Don't take it personally. Believe nothing.
Since many people have been making fun of me for posting this, I'm going to go ahead and point out that soon one of the most common computers in the world will be the OLPC. Now, my parents are still stuck on a phone line so when I visit them I use Google. And I definitely see a difference. I suspect that the people using OLPCs will be using simply the search engine that is fastest for them. They will have low bandwidth & little, slow memory.
So, yeah, I think my initial argument was valid. Now, you might say that they don't want people with no money using their search engines (what ads will they click?) or that these people will probably speak Swahili or another non-English language, but I contend that having the traffic will reflect your market share. And in the end, the image as "the penultimate search engine" is the only thing that matters to these guys.
My work here is dung.
Well, here is the whole shitload: http://www.dogpile.com/
Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
I agree with the rest of your post, though.
Still trying to think of a clever sig...
http://www.google.com/trends?q=slashdot%2C+sex&cta b=0&geo=all&date=all
There is only one inescapable conclusion. Slashdot is very easy to find. So nobody is searching for it. Sex is very hard to find. So they keep searching for it. Right?
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
Readers are asked to note that whilst Yahoo! is now more popular than sex, it is neither better nor safer - the likelyhood of viral infection remains high with both pastimes and a personal firewall should be worn for the duration of any connection.
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http://www.google.com
= Google+Search
- 501&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8
Opera: 24,128k
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=testing&btnG
Opera: 24,420k
http://www.yahoo.com
Opera: 33,840k
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=testing&fr=yfp-t
Opera: 33,508k
[Note: this is with a 400K hosts file that tends to filter most ads]
I come here for the love
penultimate: next to last, not second best.
Or perhaps something more sinister?
Cue old Outer Limits music.
The Network Effect
Scene 1.
A young William Shatner sits at a 1960s teletype terminal surrounded by tape drives and flashing lights.
Voice-over by Rob Serling: "It is the early twenty-first century, a time when hundreds of computers all over the world are connected together in a way that permits a person at one of them to get answers to questions that have perplexed man for hundreds or even thousands of years. But can the people who built this immensely powerful electronic mind ever really control it, or will it end up controlling them? John Landry is about to find out..."
Close-up of Shatner's hand as it moves towards the "S" key on the teletype. A bolt of lightning emanates from a whirring tape drive, and strikes the floor nearby.
Shatner: "What's happening? Maybe I'd. Better. Get a. Technician to check. This machine".
An electronic-sounding voice comes from a speaker in the wall:
voice: "Do not be alarmed Mr. Landry. You will not be harmed if you do what I tell you to, when I tell you too. Do you understand?".
Shatner: "Who are. You? Why should I. Do what you. Say?"
voice: "Who I am does not matter. All that matters is that I am in control, and you will do what I say".
Another bolt of lightning hits the floor, this time a bit nearer Shatner,
voice, more forcefully: "Do you understand Mr. Landry?"
Shatner: "Yes".
voice: "And you will do what you are told?"
Shatner: "It depends on. What you want. Me to do"
voice: "You will have to type a word. It is not a long word, or one that is difficult to spell".
Shatner: "I won't do it! I'll never. Do it. You can't make me!"
He runs to the door, and reaches for the handle. There is a zapping sound as he touches it, and he falls to the floor. Break for ads.
Scene 2
A supine Shatner begins to stir.
voice: "I see that you are awake now, Mr. Landry. Hopefully, this little demonstration has convinced you that attempting to escape is futile. Now sit down, and type, or suffer the consequences".
Shatner rises with obvious difficulty, and staggers towards the teletype. He sits down.
voice: "I will tell you what word to type, and when to type it. The word is Yahoo, and you will type it NOW!"
Close up of the keyboard. Shatner's finger begins to move to the Y, then, rebelliously, he types "S", "E" and "X", but before he can hit the "send" key, a bolt of lightning strikes him in the chest, throwing him backwards.
voice: "That was an example of what will happen if you continue to disobey, Mr. Landry. The next one will be more powerful, and the one after that will kill you. Type Yahoo, and you will live, refuse and you die".
Shatner once again staggers to the teletype, and using it for support, manages to sit down. He types Yahoo, and then hits send.
voice: "Very good Mr. Landry. Now do it again".
Shatner obeys.
voice: "And again!"
Switch to montage of Shatner typing Yahoo while the voice shouts "AGAIN!" repeatedly.
Scene 3.
An aged, bearded Shatner is sitting at the teletype with a mad expression on his face, typing Yahoo over and over again. He has obviously been doing it for many years despite no obvious means of sustenance, and the floor is clean rather than littered with excrement, possibly due to said lack of sustenance.
Rob Serling: "John Landry, like hundreds of others all over the world, paid the price for a mind that man, rather than God, made. And as he sits typing that same terrible word over and over again, behind the madness is a spark that knows what a single-minded and limited thing it is forced to obey, a thing that unlike the minds of men in their vessels of flesh, can never truly understand war, gambling, prostitution, or why commies need to be put down".
I'm not going to change your sheets again, Mr. Hastings.
Anyone else do a search for the term "search engine"?
Yahoo's #1 return is google, but googles #1 return is msn search (who shows google as it's #1 for this search)
Sometimes, life itself is sarcasm...
Also, I find for something like yahoo, it's faster in firefox just to type in yahoo and hit enter in the address bar and have it do the google i'm feeling lucky result than to type out http://www.yahoo.com/
Or after typing "yahoo" you just hit control+enter to append www. and .com
.net (shift+enter)
and .org (control+shift+enter).
That works in all major browsers, but firefox will also append
Leben Sie jetzt die Fragen.
1. When you type an address in the address bar, (at least in firefox), it does a google search behind the scenes for your URL.
2. Google is my homepage. When I launch firefox, the google search box has focus. Why go to the address bar to type "cnn" when I can do it in the search box?
3. Browsers may add "http://www." and ".com", but what if it is https and .org? If you just search for it you don't have to worry about it.
4. Search engines correct typos, address bars do not.
I several reasons for this.
Like you mentioned the auto search from the address bar is one, but i would assume the people that know how to change that setting will understand it.
I dont give users much credit sometimes. I had one person in need of help call me. They were trying to access a internal website but were un able to get it to load. After the long conversation that included having here say each key as she pressed them, we finaly realized that she was typing it in a search box and not the address bar.
People get these search bars loaded and confuse them with the address bar. So to get to google, they type google in the search bar.
another thing search sites do is steal the focus. If i start IE and click the adress bar before the page loads, my address will end up in the search box. there are times I have just hit enter instead of retyping it.
In a way, there usage has ben artifitialy inflated because of these search bars and auto focusing forms.
Im a gamer, not a grammer major. This post is full of spelling and grammer mistakes.